Just to let you know I have found out that when removing the sear cage it's much easier if you flip the safety up. You did good on this vid but you have struggled with them in the past. Love your vids and appreciate the time you have put in to doing this tutorials. 🙏
@Gun Addict Thank you for the feedback! When I look back at my older videos I think to myself, “I really need to take these down”. But the date stamp prevents me from doing this. I guess there’s some bragging rights to being the first on RUclips for a particular demo. The Shadow 2 has been done by numerous others in the past, but I was the first on the Optic Ready Shadow 2 (my babies). I’ve definitely improved and refined my techniques over the years though, but I think I’ve pretty much maxed out now. I do like getting new guns handed to me to work on though. Thanks again, I’m always happy to hear someone is getting some value out of them. There were only a couple complete takedowns on the SP-01 Shadow with a firing block, which is different.
@@CZFanGrrl I work at a gun range and have been working on guns for over a decade but just recently got in to Uspsa. And like you said not alot of videos on the shadows especially in the detail that you provide. I have learned and copied alot from your polishing methods and Amazon thanks you for it. Appreciate the quick response. Have a good day
@Gun Addict. LOL! “Amazon thanks you for it”. Isn’t that so true? I recently acquired a polishing system with 50,000grit and 100,000grit for my jewelry and stone finishing, but that just seems over the top. The 3M polishing pads are excellent up to 12,000 grit is pretty darn good when you think most are just polishing to 1200grit. You have my dream job. I would love to work at a gun range. Is it an indoor range? You must be working on all models of guns I imagine? I started a gunsmithing course last year but once I did the rifle modules I’ve kind of run out of steam, but I will finish. Thanks and you have a nice day as well.
@@CZFanGrrl Yes it is a Indoor Range and we are also a ammo manufacture. So mostly I run the ammo department and dont get to work on guns as much. Every now and then if something hard comes up or a real high end gun and scope come in for mounting and sight in I'll get to play a little. so while i have you getting ready to order some more polishing pads and was wondering whats the best. I have the 3m paper you use and some 5 in by 1 in soft pads and the 2x2 as well. I thought about getting stones this time just curious whats worked the best for you.
@Gun Addict I wish we had an indoor range. Many years we get snow in October and so it brings an end to the shooting season early. Competitve shooting like IPSC (USPSA) anyways. If I felt like trudging through knee high drifts of snow I guess I could still set up a few steel stages. To answer your question on the micro polishing pads and papers. I like them both, but I think I use the pads the most. The papers can be cut and then rolled onto a toothpick for smoothing out all the holes like on the trigger, disco, hammer, etc. I also attach the papers to popsicle sticks for level areas like the rails on the slide, but the polishing pads have pretty much replaced the papers for that. The pads are also great for polishing the humps on the trigger bar spring because they conform around the curve. If I had to pick, I’d say I use the pads the most, because for the pin holes I am using www.riogrande.com/product/silicone-polishing-pin-kit-2mm/332700 or www.riogrande.com/product/silicone-polishing-pin-kit-3mm/332690. I use the same polishing pin mandrel for polishing the pins themselves. If you’ve polished the actual pins that connect the disco and the main spring strut then you know what a PITA that is. I set up my Foredom Flex shaft hand piece in a horizontal adapter, www.riogrande.com/product/foredom-flex-shaft-handpiece-holder-kit/117294, leaving both my hands free and then using a pad polish one half of the pin, then rotate it and polish the other half. Repeat for each grit. Almost like a micro lathe. As a metalsmith a lot of the tools I use in my work translate well to gunsmithing. Lots of tiny parts. I also like Jet Set fixturing compound. www.riogrande.com/product/jett-ballistic-fixturing-compound/118226, if you’re embedding then this could come in handy. Hope this helps! On the stone front. I don’t use them. At all.
CZ FanGrrl, Thank you for the amazing detailed video. I just joined the CZ Shadow 2 optics club and I have ordered the replacement parts and the polishing pads. I can't wait to see how well it performs.
@Eric Frost Congratulations on your purchase! Which optic did you end up going with? I always like hearing what people are running on theirs. I’ve had the Vortex Venom 6MOA the Leupold DDP 7MOA and the Trijicon SRO 5MOA on my guns. As you can tell, I’m running two Trujicon SRO’s now, despite initially not liking it so much, but when I shot the DPP in bright light and couldn’t find the dot I switched back to the SRO. I never lose the dot even in the brightest lights. You are going to love working on the gun. Super easy and CZ already did a lot of the prepolishing for us, you just need to refine it a bit more and drop that DA trigger pull a bit. Enjoy your new gun and I look forward to hearing how you’re enjoying it!
@Kevin Gosselin Good to hear! You’re going to love it. Sorry for the delay in replying, I somehow missed your comment. Enjoy your new pistol. What optic are you getting for it?
Thanks for sharing all of that I learned a lot! Just bought a new Shadow 2 Compact. Decided to see how the other half lives... I've been a 1911 shooter forever. Again thanks!
@rickstatler5581 Hi Rick, thanks for the comments! I appreciate it a lot. So envious that you have the compact Shadow 2, i would probably be shooting IDPA as well if I had that one, unfortunately the full size is too big and won’t fit in the box, but the compact will do that. Canada is no longer permiting handgun sales and so I ended up missing out on this one, otherwise I would probably have one as well. I noticed that you were asking who makes the extended safety, this is where I buy all my parts from. www.ipscstore.com/en/cz-shadow-2-parts/10389-cz-shadow-2-wide-safety-for-left-side.html I replaced all the stock parts with Eemann Tech parts, don’t waste your time with anything else. All the top competition shooters run Eemann Tech. The double action is going to take some getting used to after running SAO with the 1911, but you’ll adapt. I’ve got a 9# Eemann Tech main spring and it sets off everything. I chop 4 coils off an 8# and run federals, the SA is lighter than a 1911 at 1.5lbs. It’s a lot of fun to tinker with the gun because it’s so easy to work on. Thanks again for commenting, if there’s any other information I can help with, let me know! Sonja
Hi Sonja, thank you for all the information I really appreciate the info! I knew Canada was pretty tight on guns, but didn't know it had gotten that bad! It would be the same way here if some people had their way! Thankfully I live in one of the completely free states in the US, namely South Dakota! Our Governor Kristi Noem believes in concealed carry and does so herself! And during her term we have gotten Constitutional carry in South Dakota, that means no permit is required... As long as you're not a felon nor any other disqualification. Concealed carry is allowed without a permit... Eemann Tech parts were what I was intending to use in my CZ. I will not be competing with this pistol it will just be for target practice, and as a nightstand gun for home defense. Thanks again for all the information! And thank you for your videos I will be checking the rest of them out, they have been a great source of information! I hope to stay in touch with you... Thanks again! Rick
Hi Rick, yup Canada has become a 3rd world country under the current government, but there’s always hope. The trouble is, fire arms owners are always going to be political targets. Very sad how we are treated, as if we’re the criminals and the criminals are poor and disenfranchised what evers. I can’t keep a loaded fire arm in my nightstand, I’d go to jail, especially if I used it to defend myself. Imagine me discharging a firearm even to just scare off an intruder and I’m going to jail. Our laws would rather see me get beaten, raped or murdered than see me defend myself. On that happy note….thank you again for commenting and do keep in touch. Enjoy you baby S2! Sonja
Great video! as always, makes me confident to take apart my brand new S2 and get started with polishing. As soon as I'll get few spare parts, just in case.....
@Bruno Itey As long as you are just polishing and not stoning or filing anything, you will be fine. The only parts you need to watch for are the detents (best to remove them altogether so they don’t fall out) and the hammer pin retaining pin. Those parts are small and easily lost. Otherwise, you will do very well polishing up your new Shadow 2 (and you’ll love shooting it even more). Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate it!
Just got my Ultimate Trigger for CZ from IPSC Store too! Mated with a Eemann Tech disco and sear spring. Did them all over the weekend in less than an hour.And I am a total amateur compared to you! Been thru two major matches and no issues so far. Plan to do the same to my old SP01 Shadow next ( heard there may be some polishing needed).
@E.Z. Crazy isn’t it how easy it is to replace a few key parts on the gun! The polishing takes a bit more time. I spent at least a couple hours on the trigger bar and then 5 hours on the rest of the gun and internals. A few spring changes, the Ultimate trigger and the disconnector make a big difference right away though. How do you like that Ultimate Trigger? Pretty sweet huh?? The SP-01 is a lot rougher typically than the Shadow 2 which has a bit more factory polishing done. If it’s an SP-01 I’m thinking you might have more than a couple hundred rounds through it as well. I worked on an 85C that had over 40000 rounds through it and the action was like butter, except it was also unsafe and needed to have a number of parts completely replaced, but when it was restored back to safe condition again, it was pretty awesome. Never under estimate action polishing, I’m a huge fan or au natural as well! Thanks for the feedback on your trigger work and success with the new trigger! Awesome to hear.
You should give the palm swell lok grips a try if you haven't already, I just switched out my thin boogies to them after 3 years. The curvature on the palm swells really lends itself to much better leverage. Thanks for the video.
@Pergite77 Great to heae from you and thank you for sharing the good news. Where is the Wolrd Championship being held this year? I’m sure you will come across my friend Rob Engh. He is a Canadian Production Grand Champion from my province. Can’t miss him, he had fangs! And he’s a big dude. Super nice guy. I’ve taken a break from shooting due to my medical condition. I have a tendency to drop things with my shooting hand. Not good. I sure miss it. If you have any specific gunsmithing related videos you’d like to see, please let me know. All the best to you at Worlds, you’re going to knock off them double Alphas for sure! Sonja
Great video for CZ owners wanting to get their guns running as smoothly as possible. Makes me want to buy another CZ just to tear it apart and polish it - I've done 5. Wish I had this video when I was doing my first one. 😉 Still looking for an S2 OR here in the States but I'm awfully close to grabbing a 2011 instead just for something different. Cheers!
@@CZFanGrrl I did discover those micro mesh pads and sticks thanks to a video you publish a while back. They're invaluable for those of us who want to do the polishing by hand instead of by Dremel. Thanks for that!
@@SEAKPhotog They are the best!! I have top end tools and points for polishing for jewelry making and the polishing micro grit polishing paper, pads and sticks are superior to my Foredom Flex shaft variable speed and polishing bits. The micro grit is cheaper as well and portable.
@@AZVIDS That’s a pretty good alternative option! Congratulations on the jump in classification. The gun with a dot turns everyone into a rock star. It’s so cool to see people who typically struggle, usually because of vision issues as they get older, suddenly shooting more accurately and faster. Good stuff! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you! My intent for the channel was not for entertainment but education and information. I just don’t know what else to do with the gun! I’m really thankful that people are noticing that I haven’t been producing videos though1
Hello! I’m finally getting a Shadow 2 in a week - been trying to find one for over a year at retail price here in the US. Which plate do you recommend for the SRO? I see one’s from Cajun Gun Works as well as CZ Custom. I have to admit that this disassembly/assembly looks fairly intimidating for a newb (and I’m decently inclined mechanically). Glad you’re out there. You’re a big help and unique in your CZ content style.
@Jonathan L THANK YOU! Seriously. What a nice comment and I appreciate that. Especially the unique part. I incorporate metalsmithing with gunsmithing and it seems to be a winning combination. No fear. Firstly congrats on getting the S2 OR. You are going to LOVE IT! Next , congrats on going with the SRO, you’re also going to love it. As for the plates, I think either will serve the purpose, which is attaching the optic to the gun, that’s all it does. I have the plates that are factory CZ. I saw at one time that CZC put out a multioptic plate which is intriguing because you are not limited to the optic. If you go with a factory plate you are limited to that particular optic going forward, ie Leuopold, Vortex, Trijicon because they are drilled optic specific. Don’t be intimiated by the disassembly. Seriously. First couple times, have a few separate trays to keep the pins and parts separate, ie. all the hammer/disco parts in one, sear cage in another, the safety detents and spring, etc. That’s what I did initially because I was wigged out about trying to remember what goes where (and it helps with reassembly to keep things a bit organized - initially). Now I just dump everything into one tray and go at it. Are you looking at lightening the trigger and polishing the internals a bit more? The trigger is very good out of the box but a bit on the heavy side. I shot my first S2 (non optic) with a stock trigger for 2 years because I thought a trigger job was like cheating (now I feel that way about the optic…LOL), but after doing my first trigger job I was sold. Thanks again for the nice comment!
@@CZFanGrrl I have the S2 OR now and it’s beautiful. Which SRO do you recommend for USPSA? 5 or 2.5? Incidentally, It’s a shame that I won’t be able to use the gun case it came in once I install the SRO. You’d think that CZ would have made room for that, but I do keep my pistols in a bore store (silicone impregnated flannel pouch) to keep rust away. Can’t wait to shoot this it!
@Jonathan L I’m sure you are in love with it already!! LOL. So a few recommendations right off the bat. Switch out the grips for some LOK Grips. You’ll be happy you did. I know the aluminum grips are nice looking, but they don’t help your grip. You probably already know that from my videos. As for the optic. most USPSA stages have very few long range targets (like 30m +), but it does depend on who is building the stages. I myself prefer the 5MOA, I’ve tried smaller dots but they really are harder to pick up and even though you can bloom them up in intensity making them appear slightly larger, I prefer the “in your face” 5MOA. If you’ve got eyes that are in between 30 - 60 you’ll appreciate a bigger dot. Most competitive shooters I know shooting the Shadow with a Trijicon have gone with the 5MOA. You don’t want to pack around that gun in a stock shipping case, get yourself a nice Nanuck case or something that can carry a couple guns at least. It’s more durable and better padded offering more protection if you inadvertly drop the case. The silicon bag is a great idea in humid clmates. I’m sort of near coast (coastal rainforest) and have peeled the nitride off the barrel awhile ago and no rusting. I make sure to wipe the gun down before storing it and let it come to room temperature if shooting in the cold before storing it. I also use a Golden Rod in the gun safe. The nitride protects the gun well, just the inside of the barrel needs good attention against rust prevention, here anyways. If you haven’t shot an optic before and are transitioning from irons give yourself time to adjust. You might end up being a little slower initially but the learning curve is VERY steep. You’ll be amazed!
@@CZFanGrrl Great suggestion on the Nanuck case as those things are tanks. I do need to learn to shoot a red dot with both eyes open. That skill has to help when running around a competitive course. Will do the Lok Grips for sure - slim bogies. I may just shoot the S2 before I get into tuning/polishing it. I’ll be binge watching your videos for sure! Still can’t believe that I finally found a S2, but I got the restock email from CZ Custom and ordered within 3 minutes. Thanks!
@Jonathan L That was a good score then picking up the gun as soon as it was back in stock. I grabbed my first one in January 2019 and then snagged my second in Sept 2019. Canada got them early because we didn’t have to contend with stupid USPSA weight restrictions in IPSC. Yes, you should shoot it stock for a bit before doing the trigger work. That’s a good idea. I love those Slim Bogies, the texture on them is aggressive, your hands are definitely going to feel them for a few weeks and then get accustomed to them and they stick! I have the 4UP Nanuck and I’m really happy with it. The guns sit in there upright instead of on their sides and then you can pack a lot more handguns to the range in one case instead of a bunch of cases. Keeps things organized plus plenty of room for spare mags. Have you been shooting USPSA awhile?
There are a lot of videos I made on polishing. The Eemann Tech disco is already prepolished so i generally don’t touch it. I use the microgrit polishing papers for the smaller parts, microgrit pads on flat surfaces.
Not any more thanks to the government, but our PM is Audi-here soon. LOL. In the meantime I can still shoot them at the range, I just can’t sell or transfer them. Last time I was in CA, they only had the SP-01 on the roster, not the Shadow 2, apparently it costs $$$$ to get guns added to THE LIST. Gun laws only target the law abiding. It’s ridiculous.
Hey CZ Fan Grrl! I love the rubber grips on my CZ SP01 Shadow. What grips would be similar for CZ Shadow 2 Optic Ready? Does LOK palm swells offer anything like the CZ SP01 Shadow grips? Henning? Glad you are back so I can bug you with questions. You are the best!
@John Frizzell Hahahaha!!! Your second to last sentence made me laugh. So the SP-01 Shadow grips would not fit very well, the grip has a slightly different profile than the S2. I don’t believe that LOK Grips makes rubber grips and I’m not familiar with Henning at all Living here in Canada we’re a bit limited for shopping, ha! I love the LOK Grips thin Bogies. I have a medium size hand and they fit me really well. If you have large or larger hands the Palm Swells will become a favorite, especiallu after they exfoliate your hands! In all seriousness though, if you like the grip, feel and teture of the rubber grips, then I have a feeling you should look for something simiar for the S2. Suggestion? Take the grips off the SP-01 Shadow and put them onto the S2, just to see how they fit. The feel is going to be the same for the most part with the exception of that dog leg on the S2. LOK Grips has a great return/exchange policy, if you don’t like them you can send them back, but I doubt they get very many returns. I hope this helps and let me know how things work out with your grips! Did you get the S2 OR yet?
@@CZFanGrrl pick up S2 OR tomorrow. Can’t sleep with excitement. Been waiting a while. I know that the rubber grips from my CZ Sp01 Shadow wouldn’t fit my new S2 OR. Just curious. My original Shadow is a great gun and got me hooked on CZ. I guess I will try the LOK Palm Swell Bogies. Thank you my friend. Hope you know that a lot of people are here for you. You exemplify what great family the gun community represents. Also, you have created many CZ Fans. Thank you as always.
@John Frizzell Oh my gosh you sound like me when I was ordering my CZs! They are so addictive. Have you decided on your optic yet? I’m pretty sure I have the best subscribers on RUclips hands down.
@John Frizzell Very nice! We’ll have sort of matching guns. If you do go with the LOK Grip palm swell Bogies I would love to hear what you think of them and some photos would be nice too!
I love your videos! Thank you very much for posting your video. Have you had a scenario where the slide goes into battery if you insert a magazine firmly? If so any chance you know what could be the cause of it?
@Lubo Stojanov. YES! All the time and it’s something I appreciate when it happens because it saves me from having to manually release the slide. This is a common occurance when the magazine is basically slammed into place, it has to be very firm. I think what happens is that it displaces the slide enough to release the mag release/slide lock control. There is nothing to be adjusted or fixed here, insert the mag a little less forcefully is about all I suppose. In competition or anytime you need to be fast on the reloads, this is a good thing! Thank you for the feedback Lubo, I appreciate the comments and feedback!
Nothing like the Sgadow 2 after you do a trigger job, cut the slide, port the barrel, install a new extractor, and so on. The orange is better, but serious competitors use Tanfoglios or Buls if not custom-built. It is a fine gun but a production gun built and to a price point.
Congratulations on obtaining a Shadow 2. It’s a fantastic gun and I think you’ll love it in the SAO version. The extended safety is a good add on to that, but if you’re not shooting competitively it’s not as important. I switched from Cajun to Eemann Tech because I have a couple friends that compete at World’s Levels IPSC and that’s what they use and in my experiments with reloading, I get more power from the Eemann Tech using lighter loads (less recoil) yet still able to set off the non-Federal primers which are usually hard to come by. That’s just my preference. Hope the conversion goes well! You won’t need the disconnector in there any longer but you’ll need a SAO trigger. There’s a huge selection at www.ipscstore.com but anywhere that sells Eemann Tech will likely also have some.
@Adam Limbag Thanks for asking. I started off with all CGW parts and then took them all out and replaced them with Eemann Tech Ultimate spring and Ultimate Trigger. Currently running a 9# main spring which is igniting Campro Primers (similar to CCI or S&B) and giving me about a 5.5# trigger pull, with a 10lb progeswive recoil spring, extended firing pin, comp disco, reduced power ultimate trigger spring. If I run Federal primered reloads then I drop in a tuned 8# main spring and it gives me about 5# D/A and a sick 1.25 single action.
Hello! I see at 32:35 you are sanding the side of the slide. So do you also sand the top side of that rail? Or is sanding the side sufficient enough? I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and I’m trying to find the best areas to sand to make my racking feel smoother
You’re not “sanding” with the microgrit pads, you’re polishing. The nitride in those areas are going to wear off through action polishing (firing ammunition down range). Hand polishing speeds up the process. Hope this helps!
@C Kim I’m still alive! It’s been -22C here (not inlcuding the windchill which drops it down to -40C, so not ideal for hanging around outside . How are you? And Happy New Year! Hope all is well where you are at. Thanks for checking in!
@@CZFanGrrl Happy New Year! Guess I forgot it gets chilly this time of the year for you! LOL. Doing as well as everyone else with the Panicdemic. Hope to see a video soon. thought RUclips was playing games again.
@Feel-Am Boy that is a microgrit finishing stick. You can get it from Amazon in the US. www.amazon.com/Micro-Mesh-MICRO-4N0000V-Colored-Sanding/dp/B003ELIO0A/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2V1EWJ64QN21U&keywords=micro+mesh+sanding+sticks&qid=1640147107&sprefix=micro+mesh+sanding+sticks%2Caps%2C223&sr= Or in Canada. Also from Amazon. www.amazon.ca/dp/B003ELIO0A/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_AWDXW6YQXB8581QEK7FN They work great. Especially on flat level surfaces like the rails on the slide.
All your questions are answered in the video. In the description are time stamps to take you directly to what you want to know without having to sit through the whole video! Thanks!
@Jude Cassar Thanks for asking! That is the Eemann Tech Ultimate Competition Trigger. I love it so much I replaced the flat trigger on the S2 with the dark grey grips with the Ultimate as well. You can find it here if you’re in Europe: www.ipscstore.com/en/cz/10341-eemann-tech-ultimate-trigger-for-cz.html Here if you’re in Canada: tigerarms.ca/product/copy-of-eemann-tech-trigger-bar-spring-cz-2/ And here if you are in the USA: www.shootersconnectionstore.com/EEMANN-TECH-ULTIMATE-TRIGGER-FOR-CZ-P6406.aspx Or just google Eemann Tech Ultimate Trigger. Enjoy!
@@CZFanGrrl Thank you for your reply. Do you know Which is the flatter trigger of the two between the Eeman Tech Ultimate and the Armory Craft Double DA/SA adjustable trigger ?
@Jude Cassar Glad to help! So I went to Armory Craft’s site and looked at their adjustable triggers. They have the Flat, the Tactical and the Target. The Target looks to be the closest to the Ultimate. The Flat looks to be the closest to the trigger on the gun with the dark grey grips in the video. Without an Armory Craft trigger to actually physically compare it to, it’s my best guess. Also, I didn’t see DA/SA triggers, just SAO triggers. Send a link for the DA if you can.
@@CZFanGrrl sorry I don't know how to attach a link to this reply but if you go to their website and click on shop then scroll to CZ Adjustable Trigger and open the page you will see a picture with 2 Orange Shade 2. That's where the DASA Dual Adjustable triggers are. I like the Eemantech brass trigger but being a softer metal that can't be heat treated. I didn't know how durable it is.
@@CZFanGrrl I like the EemanTech brass trigger but not being heat treated, I just don' t know how durable it is. Being a softer metal I'm concerned about the the pin holes wearing out and enlarging over time.
While cleaning my shadow 2 compact with slide removed I accidentally dropped the hammer. If damage was to occur where would I see it or do you think a couple of hammer drops with no slide? I should be OK?
@nealgunn5862 You and the gun will be fine. You should see one of my earlier videos where in my enthusiasm to demonstrate the smoothness of the trigger I repeatedly pulled the trigger (and subsequently dropped the hammer on nothing because the slide was removed like in your case). From a metallurgical point of view, what occurs is “work hardening”, when a harder metal strikes a softer metal (ie, a steel hammer striking silver repeatedly. The silver will work harden, the steel will not. The silver molecules become disordered and small and with enough time and blows the silver will become brittle and snap. But this would mean a lot of prolonged hammer blows over an extended length of time, The Shadow 2 hammer and the frame are the same metal (same hardness), it would take a long time for damage to occur. Enjoy the gun! The Shadow 2 is an amazing piece of equipment. BTW. How are you liking the compact? I would have gotten one but our idiot LiberalNDP government banned sales of handguns in Canada.
@@CZFanGrrl wow thank you for the detailed response. I’ve been looking all over the RUclips to find a good answer and I think I found it. Thank you very much.
So I know this video isn't about my question but I am picking up my first OR shadow 2 tomorrow and can you please tell me where I might be able to find a right handed (left side) extended ambi safety lever? Gun is almost not very useable for my 3 gun competitions without one and does not appear to ship with them anymore...
@SD3Gunner I buy most of my stuff from www.ipscstore.com www.ipscstore.com/en/search?controller=search I’m in Canada so this is the most reliable source for me. If you’re in the USA, CZ Custom might be your best bet. You’re right, they no longer ship with extended safeties in the USA and never did in Canada. Hope this helps. Google Eemann Tech, they also have a supplier in Florida I think.
@Samir Attia No, not at all with the 9# Eemann Tech, but I do very occasionally with the 8# Eemann Tech. The 9# will set off everything. CCI, Campro, S&B, Winchester and of course Federal. With the 8# and 9# it’s a good idea to run the extended firing pin with the RPFPS.
@Samir Attia If you happen tobe lucky enough to get your hands on Federal primers or Ammunition, the 8# Eemann Tech man spring sets those off quite easily. In fact I tune the 8# Eemann Tech even further by cutting 3 - 4 coils from it and it still sets off all Federal Primers. Enjoy and thanks for commenting!
@@CZFanGrrl I was using the CGW 8.5# hammer spring with only federal primers. The trigger was a pleasure, the double action was more like Apex Tactical trigger in my P-10, and the single action was more like 1#. Then, it became very hard to get federal primers, and the 8.5# to even 11.5# pound didn’t really do a good job with some of the Ammo out there. Lots of light strikes and some time nothing is fired lol. The gun ran fine with the CGW 13# spring, but the trigger became very heavy.
@AZVIDS. Can’t get one in the US? That’s probably because I’m buying them all, hahaha. Yup, we’ve got loads of Optic Ready Shadow 2’s mostly because the run on them was pretty much done in 2019; I bought my first one in January 2019 and second one in summer of 2019 and everyone in 2020 had all that cash on hand from being on lock down, nothing else to spend it on. And no shortage of primers either. Sorry! (But not really, hahah)
Very educational. Maybe you said before, but why are you favoring the Eeman triger kit instead of Cajun gun works? And is the Shadow still capable to eat all kind of ammo after part changing or it becomes more picky with ammo?
@Kodrean23 Thanks! Yup, I’ve mentioned it a few times why I favour the Eemann Tech. The company lives and breathes competitive sport shooting. Not sure who CGW has on their roster of elitist world shooters. But if the world class shooters are running Eemann Tech and RC Tech then that’s what I’m running as well, despite not being anywhere near a world class competitive shooter. But I do appreciate a finely tuned gun. So I’m running a 9# Eemann Tech main spring as stock and it eats everything (primers), including the hard S&B, CCI and Campro. If I’m shooting Federal I stick in one of my custom tuned 8# Eemann Tech mainsprings for the scariest lightest single action imagineable It’s the only time a trigger has suprised me. You were talking about primers and not the nose cone shape of the bullet right? The Shadow 2 regardless of what trigger kit you’re running is not a fan of truncated cones. I seen too many shooters run into problems with them. Solved usually by reaming out the chamber. Thanks for commenting!
@@CZFanGrrl thank you for the answer and sharing experience with me. I am relatively new to this and have Shadow 2 stock, so that's why I try to gather as much as info I can. Who uses Eeman tech from elite shooters? What uses Eric Graufel 😁😁?
@Kodreanu23 Welcome to the world of CZ and that is good to inform yourself! Two that I personally know are Rob Engh and Paul Hagiantoniou. Eric Grauffel I don’t know, but I’m pretty sure he isn’t using CGW. www.ericgrauffelonlineshop.com/en/214-eemann-tech 🤣👍🏻 Hope this helps!
@Kodrean23 My pleasure and I am glad I could help! Are you new to IPSC - USPSA? The Eemann Tech Ultimate trigger is also a fantastic upgrade to the stock trigger. It’s adjustable and I installed it on my competition gun and then immediately ordered another one for my spare. I bought mine from www.ipscstore.com, but you can find them anywhere Eemann Tech is sold. Good luck with your shooting! (and competing).
@Gary Combs. Yes, I get all the polishing pads and sticks from Amazon. Available in the US and Canada. Just search for microgrit polishing and you'll get hits for what you need.
I recently picked up a Shadow 2 OR, and had the frame Cerakoted. I wanted to do some polishing (which is how I found this video) and was wondering if you (or anyone else) had any opinions about using a Dremel for this sort of polishing. Would it be overkill for something like this?
Overkill! Dremels run at too high an RPM and you run the risk of potentially removing too much. I have a Foredom flexshaft used by goldsmiths and runs a low variable RPM and I don’t even use it for polishing the gun parts. Unnecessary Get those micro grit polishing pads I refer to, available on Amazon everywhere and polish by hand. All you are wanting to do is remove the nitride and smooth any surface grit, not remove metal, which is what will probably happen with a Dremel. Congrats on your purchase! What optic are you thinking of running on it?.
@@CZFanGrrl Hey, thanks for the reply! I took your advice and ordered the polishing pads. I have this problem where I need to have the latest toys, so I went with a Trijicon RMR HD for an optic. It feels weird, this being the first pistol I've shot that doesn't have iron sights, even to co-witness with the optic. On one hand I like having them there, so I got a plate with a dovetail for a rear sight, but on the other this is purely for range fun and perhaps competition (and I have a top-loading battery) so I'm more torn than Natalie Imbruglia.
Hey Cory> Glad you’re going the polishing pad route, I have a video on using the polishing pads to put a mirror finish on an aluminum Springer Precision magazine brake. Getting a mirror finish on aluminum is probably the hardest thing to accomplish. The Trijicon RMRHD is unknown to me, I know the Trijicon RMR, so I’m going to check that out! I shot irons in competitive shooting matches before making the switch to optics and have never looked back. At one point I even removed my front sight because I thought it was messing with my brain and dividing my attention from focusing on the optic. Give yourself time to get used to shooting with an optic. You’re probably going to be slower initially, but the learning curve is fast and you’ll be amazed at how quickly your accuracy improves. It almost felt like “cheating” initially because I improved so fast. Top loading battery is BOSS! Checked out the RMR HD, that’s a nice robust looking optic. (Natalie Imbruglia reference - 🤣).
@Adolfo Gallardo JR When you’re competing at your level you’ll want to stay on top of them. For me, I replace the trigger spring when it breaks, not a big deal for me because I have an identical spare CZ OR S2 if it goes at any point during a match. But really, I run them until they break. Which has so far after 3 years has been never. My round count is a lot lower than yoru though. Trigger bar spring, sear last a long time, maybe forever. The recoil spring is the one that’ll tell you when it’s time to replace and your cases are flying too far away. If you’re running light loads the firing spring will last long time as well. If suddenly you’re getting light strikes on the primers then it might be time to replace the main spring. Good to hear from you again Adolfo, have you made Grand Master?
@ JIBRILSAUTO96. Nice! Polishing goes a long way. If you want, you can upgrade the trigger spring, hammer bar spring with competition Eemann Tech parts. What is your SAO trigger pulling at currently?
@@CZFanGrrl thanks for fast reply I’ll have to check what the Sao is currently pulling at if had to guess somewhere in the 3# range. Do you recommend EEMANN over CWG?
@JIBRILSAUTO96 Happy to help! I’ve tried CGW initially, but switched to Eemann Tech awhile ago. 3# trigger pull sounds about right. Which is very nice for stock. Polishing the metal on metal parts and spring changes will probably get it down a bit more as well.
@Beamer1108 I used 3M microgrit polishing pads. Start with 600grit and work your way up to 12,000grt. I did a check on Amazon.ca and they still have them in the 2” x 2” size and 4” x 3” size. I used the 2” x 2” size. Not sure if Amazon.com has them, but if you search the term “Micro Mesh Polishing Pads” you should get some hits. Any other search term will net you nothing. Must be “Micro Mesh Polishing Pads”, It takes awhile to work through the grits, but you get a nice shiny steel finish. Be sure to use a light coating of gun oil on them afterwards. The nitrid finish protects against rusting. I also polished a barrel to steel and have never had it rut on me. You just want to remove the Nitrid finish, not metal, so don’t get carried away. To polish in the grooves I used 3M radial bristle discs on a Foredom Flexshaft, but you can also carefully use a Dremel, but have far less control unless you have a speed foot control for it. Hope this helps! Sonja
I have a Shadow 2 compact. I see no reason for a “better“ trigger. It is just awesome. Accuracy sublime. Best pistol I own.
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Best way to describe it.. it outshoots me.
@user-fj7vm9fz2h Thanks!
Just to let you know I have found out that when removing the sear cage it's much easier if you flip the safety up. You did good on this vid but you have struggled with them in the past. Love your vids and appreciate the time you have put in to doing this tutorials. 🙏
@Gun Addict Thank you for the feedback! When I look back at my older videos I think to myself, “I really need to take these down”. But the date stamp prevents me from doing this. I guess there’s some bragging rights to being the first on RUclips for a particular demo. The Shadow 2 has been done by numerous others in the past, but I was the first on the Optic Ready Shadow 2 (my babies). I’ve definitely improved and refined my techniques over the years though, but I think I’ve pretty much maxed out now. I do like getting new guns handed to me to work on though. Thanks again, I’m always happy to hear someone is getting some value out of them. There were only a couple complete takedowns on the SP-01 Shadow with a firing block, which is different.
@@CZFanGrrl I work at a gun range and have been working on guns for over a decade but just recently got in to Uspsa. And like you said not alot of videos on the shadows especially in the detail that you provide. I have learned and copied alot from your polishing methods and Amazon thanks you for it. Appreciate the quick response. Have a good day
@Gun Addict. LOL! “Amazon thanks you for it”. Isn’t that so true? I recently acquired a polishing system with 50,000grit and 100,000grit for my jewelry and stone finishing, but that just seems over the top. The 3M polishing pads are excellent up to 12,000 grit is pretty darn good when you think most are just polishing to 1200grit. You have my dream job. I would love to work at a gun range. Is it an indoor range? You must be working on all models of guns I imagine? I started a gunsmithing course last year but once I did the rifle modules I’ve kind of run out of steam, but I will finish. Thanks and you have a nice day as well.
@@CZFanGrrl Yes it is a Indoor Range and we are also a ammo manufacture. So mostly I run the ammo department and dont get to work on guns as much. Every now and then if something hard comes up or a real high end gun and scope come in for mounting and sight in I'll get to play a little. so while i have you getting ready to order some more polishing pads and was wondering whats the best. I have the 3m paper you use and some 5 in by 1 in soft pads and the 2x2 as well. I thought about getting stones this time just curious whats worked the best for you.
@Gun Addict I wish we had an indoor range. Many years we get snow in October and so it brings an end to the shooting season early. Competitve shooting like IPSC (USPSA) anyways. If I felt like trudging through knee high drifts of snow I guess I could still set up a few steel stages. To answer your question on the micro polishing pads and papers. I like them both, but I think I use the pads the most. The papers can be cut and then rolled onto a toothpick for smoothing out all the holes like on the trigger, disco, hammer, etc. I also attach the papers to popsicle sticks for level areas like the rails on the slide, but the polishing pads have pretty much replaced the papers for that. The pads are also great for polishing the humps on the trigger bar spring because they conform around the curve. If I had to pick, I’d say I use the pads the most, because for the pin holes I am using www.riogrande.com/product/silicone-polishing-pin-kit-2mm/332700 or www.riogrande.com/product/silicone-polishing-pin-kit-3mm/332690. I use the same polishing pin mandrel for polishing the pins themselves. If you’ve polished the actual pins that connect the disco and the main spring strut then you know what a PITA that is. I set up my Foredom Flex shaft hand piece in a horizontal adapter, www.riogrande.com/product/foredom-flex-shaft-handpiece-holder-kit/117294, leaving both my hands free and then using a pad polish one half of the pin, then rotate it and polish the other half. Repeat for each grit. Almost like a micro lathe. As a metalsmith a lot of the tools I use in my work translate well to gunsmithing. Lots of tiny parts. I also like Jet Set fixturing compound. www.riogrande.com/product/jett-ballistic-fixturing-compound/118226, if you’re embedding then this could come in handy. Hope this helps! On the stone front. I don’t use them. At all.
CZ FanGrrl, Thank you for the amazing detailed video. I just joined the CZ Shadow 2 optics club and I have ordered the replacement parts and the polishing pads. I can't wait to see how well it performs.
@Eric Frost Congratulations on your purchase! Which optic did you end up going with? I always like hearing what people are running on theirs. I’ve had the Vortex Venom 6MOA the Leupold DDP 7MOA and the Trijicon SRO 5MOA on my guns. As you can tell, I’m running two Trujicon SRO’s now, despite initially not liking it so much, but when I shot the DPP in bright light and couldn’t find the dot I switched back to the SRO. I never lose the dot even in the brightest lights. You are going to love working on the gun. Super easy and CZ already did a lot of the prepolishing for us, you just need to refine it a bit more and drop that DA trigger pull a bit. Enjoy your new gun and I look forward to hearing how you’re enjoying it!
@@CZFanGrrl I am awaiting the mounting plate and I am going with the Vortex Venom for now and maybe one day move up to the Trijicon SRO.
@Eric Frost The Venom is a very capable optic and a good jumping off point. I still have one mounted on my P09 which I had milled for an optic. Enjoy!
Great info as I'm ready for the CZ purchase. I really appreciate the detailed vid.
@Kevin Gosselin Good to hear! You’re going to love it. Sorry for the delay in replying, I somehow missed your comment. Enjoy your new pistol. What optic are you getting for it?
Thanks for sharing all of that I learned a lot! Just bought a new Shadow 2 Compact. Decided to see how the other half lives... I've been a 1911 shooter forever. Again thanks!
@rickstatler5581 Hi Rick, thanks for the comments! I appreciate it a lot. So envious that you have the compact Shadow 2, i would probably be shooting IDPA as well if I had that one, unfortunately the full size is too big and won’t fit in the box, but the compact will do that. Canada is no longer permiting handgun sales and so I ended up missing out on this one, otherwise I would probably have one as well. I noticed that you were asking who makes the extended safety, this is where I buy all my parts from. www.ipscstore.com/en/cz-shadow-2-parts/10389-cz-shadow-2-wide-safety-for-left-side.html I replaced all the stock parts with Eemann Tech parts, don’t waste your time with anything else. All the top competition shooters run Eemann Tech. The double action is going to take some getting used to after running SAO with the 1911, but you’ll adapt. I’ve got a 9# Eemann Tech main spring and it sets off everything. I chop 4 coils off an 8# and run federals, the SA is lighter than a 1911 at 1.5lbs. It’s a lot of fun to tinker with the gun because it’s so easy to work on. Thanks again for commenting, if there’s any other information I can help with, let me know! Sonja
Hi Sonja, thank you for all the information I really appreciate the info! I knew Canada was pretty tight on guns, but didn't know it had gotten that bad! It would be the same way here if some people had their way! Thankfully I live in one of the completely free states in the US, namely South Dakota! Our Governor Kristi Noem believes in concealed carry and does so herself! And during her term we have gotten Constitutional carry in South Dakota, that means no permit is required... As long as you're not a felon nor any other disqualification. Concealed carry is allowed without a permit... Eemann Tech parts were what I was intending to use in my CZ. I will not be competing with this pistol it will just be for target practice, and as a nightstand gun for home defense. Thanks again for all the information! And thank you for your videos I will be checking the rest of them out, they have been a great source of information! I hope to stay in touch with you...
Thanks again!
Rick
Hi Rick, yup Canada has become a 3rd world country under the current government, but there’s always hope. The trouble is, fire arms owners are always going to be political targets. Very sad how we are treated, as if we’re the criminals and the criminals are poor and disenfranchised what evers. I can’t keep a loaded fire arm in my nightstand, I’d go to jail, especially if I used it to defend myself. Imagine me discharging a firearm even to just scare off an intruder and I’m going to jail. Our laws would rather see me get beaten, raped or murdered than see me defend myself. On that happy note….thank you again for commenting and do keep in touch. Enjoy you baby S2! Sonja
Great video! as always, makes me confident to take apart my brand new S2 and get started with polishing.
As soon as I'll get few spare parts, just in case.....
@Bruno Itey As long as you are just polishing and not stoning or filing anything, you will be fine. The only parts you need to watch for are the detents (best to remove them altogether so they don’t fall out) and the hammer pin retaining pin. Those parts are small and easily lost. Otherwise, you will do very well polishing up your new Shadow 2 (and you’ll love shooting it even more). Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate it!
@@CZFanGrrl My pleasure!
thank you for your hard work on this video. its fantastic ❤
Thank you! 😊
Just got my Ultimate Trigger for CZ from IPSC Store too! Mated with a Eemann Tech disco and sear spring. Did them all over the weekend in less than an hour.And I am a total amateur compared to you! Been thru two major matches and no issues so far. Plan to do the same to my old SP01 Shadow next ( heard there may be some polishing needed).
@E.Z. Crazy isn’t it how easy it is to replace a few key parts on the gun! The polishing takes a bit more time. I spent at least a couple hours on the trigger bar and then 5 hours on the rest of the gun and internals. A few spring changes, the Ultimate trigger and the disconnector make a big difference right away though. How do you like that Ultimate Trigger? Pretty sweet huh?? The SP-01 is a lot rougher typically than the Shadow 2 which has a bit more factory polishing done. If it’s an SP-01 I’m thinking you might have more than a couple hundred rounds through it as well. I worked on an 85C that had over 40000 rounds through it and the action was like butter, except it was also unsafe and needed to have a number of parts completely replaced, but when it was restored back to safe condition again, it was pretty awesome. Never under estimate action polishing, I’m a huge fan or au natural as well! Thanks for the feedback on your trigger work and success with the new trigger! Awesome to hear.
You should give the palm swell lok grips a try if you haven't already, I just switched out my thin boogies to them after 3 years. The curvature on the palm swells really lends itself to much better leverage. Thanks for the video.
@sc734 The palm swells are great for big hands, I don’t have big hands, but thanks for thinking of me!
Great vid as Always. Hope you are doing fine. Keep uploading this kind of content. Made the National team, 2023 will be a awesome competition year.
@Pergite77 Great to heae from you and thank you for sharing the good news. Where is the Wolrd Championship being held this year? I’m sure you will come across my friend Rob Engh. He is a Canadian Production Grand Champion from my province. Can’t miss him, he had fangs! And he’s a big dude. Super nice guy. I’ve taken a break from shooting due to my medical condition. I have a tendency to drop things with my shooting hand. Not good. I sure miss it. If you have any specific gunsmithing related videos you’d like to see, please let me know. All the best to you at Worlds, you’re going to knock off them double Alphas for sure! Sonja
Been waiting to see this! Going to do this on my cz now 😁
@Richard W. Enjoy!
Great video for CZ owners wanting to get their guns running as smoothly as possible. Makes me want to buy another CZ just to tear it apart and polish it - I've done 5. Wish I had this video when I was doing my first one. 😉 Still looking for an S2 OR here in the States but I'm awfully close to grabbing a 2011 instead just for something different. Cheers!
@SEAKPhotog. Thanks! Yeah, its a bit of an addiction. And so is the gun! Good luck in your quest!
@@CZFanGrrl I did discover those micro mesh pads and sticks thanks to a video you publish a while back. They're invaluable for those of us who want to do the polishing by hand instead of by Dremel. Thanks for that!
@@SEAKPhotog They are the best!! I have top end tools and points for polishing for jewelry making and the polishing micro grit polishing paper, pads and sticks are superior to my Foredom Flex shaft variable speed and polishing bits. The micro grit is cheaper as well and portable.
I did that in USA, just bought a standard S2, used a mounting plate for my Cmore rts2 and jumped a SC classification overnight!👍
@@AZVIDS That’s a pretty good alternative option! Congratulations on the jump in classification. The gun with a dot turns everyone into a rock star. It’s so cool to see people who typically struggle, usually because of vision issues as they get older, suddenly shooting more accurately and faster. Good stuff! Thanks for sharing!
She just Loves tearing her CZ's down!
@C Kim Always!
miss your videos.
Thank you! My intent for the channel was not for entertainment but education and information. I just don’t know what else to do with the gun! I’m really thankful that people are noticing that I haven’t been producing videos though1
Hello! I’m finally getting a Shadow 2 in a week - been trying to find one for over a year at retail price here in the US. Which plate do you recommend for the SRO? I see one’s from Cajun Gun Works as well as CZ Custom.
I have to admit that this disassembly/assembly looks fairly intimidating for a newb (and I’m decently inclined mechanically). Glad you’re out there. You’re a big help and unique in your CZ content style.
@Jonathan L THANK YOU! Seriously. What a nice comment and I appreciate that. Especially the unique part. I incorporate metalsmithing with gunsmithing and it seems to be a winning combination. No fear. Firstly congrats on getting the S2 OR. You are going to LOVE IT! Next , congrats on going with the SRO, you’re also going to love it. As for the plates, I think either will serve the purpose, which is attaching the optic to the gun, that’s all it does. I have the plates that are factory CZ. I saw at one time that CZC put out a multioptic plate which is intriguing because you are not limited to the optic. If you go with a factory plate you are limited to that particular optic going forward, ie Leuopold, Vortex, Trijicon because they are drilled optic specific. Don’t be intimiated by the disassembly. Seriously. First couple times, have a few separate trays to keep the pins and parts separate, ie. all the hammer/disco parts in one, sear cage in another, the safety detents and spring, etc. That’s what I did initially because I was wigged out about trying to remember what goes where (and it helps with reassembly to keep things a bit organized - initially). Now I just dump everything into one tray and go at it. Are you looking at lightening the trigger and polishing the internals a bit more? The trigger is very good out of the box but a bit on the heavy side. I shot my first S2 (non optic) with a stock trigger for 2 years because I thought a trigger job was like cheating (now I feel that way about the optic…LOL), but after doing my first trigger job I was sold. Thanks again for the nice comment!
@@CZFanGrrl I have the S2 OR now and it’s beautiful. Which SRO do you recommend for USPSA? 5 or 2.5? Incidentally, It’s a shame that I won’t be able to use the gun case it came in once I install the SRO. You’d think that CZ would have made room for that, but I do keep my pistols in a bore store (silicone impregnated flannel pouch) to keep rust away. Can’t wait to shoot this it!
@Jonathan L I’m sure you are in love with it already!! LOL. So a few recommendations right off the bat. Switch out the grips for some LOK Grips. You’ll be happy you did. I know the aluminum grips are nice looking, but they don’t help your grip. You probably already know that from my videos. As for the optic. most USPSA stages have very few long range targets (like 30m +), but it does depend on who is building the stages. I myself prefer the 5MOA, I’ve tried smaller dots but they really are harder to pick up and even though you can bloom them up in intensity making them appear slightly larger, I prefer the “in your face” 5MOA. If you’ve got eyes that are in between 30 - 60 you’ll appreciate a bigger dot. Most competitive shooters I know shooting the Shadow with a Trijicon have gone with the 5MOA. You don’t want to pack around that gun in a stock shipping case, get yourself a nice Nanuck case or something that can carry a couple guns at least. It’s more durable and better padded offering more protection if you inadvertly drop the case. The silicon bag is a great idea in humid clmates. I’m sort of near coast (coastal rainforest) and have peeled the nitride off the barrel awhile ago and no rusting. I make sure to wipe the gun down before storing it and let it come to room temperature if shooting in the cold before storing it. I also use a Golden Rod in the gun safe. The nitride protects the gun well, just the inside of the barrel needs good attention against rust prevention, here anyways. If you haven’t shot an optic before and are transitioning from irons give yourself time to adjust. You might end up being a little slower initially but the learning curve is VERY steep. You’ll be amazed!
@@CZFanGrrl Great suggestion on the Nanuck case as those things are tanks. I do need to learn to shoot a red dot with both eyes open. That skill has to help when running around a competitive course. Will do the Lok Grips for sure - slim bogies. I may just shoot the S2 before I get into tuning/polishing it. I’ll be binge watching your videos for sure! Still can’t believe that I finally found a S2, but I got the restock email from CZ Custom and ordered within 3 minutes. Thanks!
@Jonathan L That was a good score then picking up the gun as soon as it was back in stock. I grabbed my first one in January 2019 and then snagged my second in Sept 2019. Canada got them early because we didn’t have to contend with stupid USPSA weight restrictions in IPSC. Yes, you should shoot it stock for a bit before doing the trigger work. That’s a good idea. I love those Slim Bogies, the texture on them is aggressive, your hands are definitely going to feel them for a few weeks and then get accustomed to them and they stick! I have the 4UP Nanuck and I’m really happy with it. The guns sit in there upright instead of on their sides and then you can pack a lot more handguns to the range in one case instead of a bunch of cases. Keeps things organized plus plenty of room for spare mags. Have you been shooting USPSA awhile?
do you have a video how do you polish all such tiny and complicated things like disconnector?
There are a lot of videos I made on polishing. The Eemann Tech disco is already prepolished so i generally don’t touch it. I use the microgrit polishing papers for the smaller parts, microgrit pads on flat surfaces.
Are these legal to buy in Canada? This would break the bank off-roster in CA, lol. Nice trio!
Not any more thanks to the government, but our PM is Audi-here soon. LOL. In the meantime I can still shoot them at the range, I just can’t sell or transfer them. Last time I was in CA, they only had the SP-01 on the roster, not the Shadow 2, apparently it costs $$$$ to get guns added to THE LIST. Gun laws only target the law abiding. It’s ridiculous.
@@CZFanGrrl Thank you for that. Do you use any particular equipment to signt in? I have an SP-01 and a Shadow 2 now. Both great guns!
@spacep0d Just a bench rest and a target for sighting in.
Hey CZ Fan Grrl! I love the rubber grips on my CZ SP01 Shadow. What grips would be similar for CZ Shadow 2 Optic Ready? Does LOK palm swells offer anything like the CZ SP01 Shadow grips? Henning? Glad you are back so I can bug you with questions. You are the best!
@John Frizzell Hahahaha!!! Your second to last sentence made me laugh. So the SP-01 Shadow grips would not fit very well, the grip has a slightly different profile than the S2. I don’t believe that LOK Grips makes rubber grips and I’m not familiar with Henning at all Living here in Canada we’re a bit limited for shopping, ha! I love the LOK Grips thin Bogies. I have a medium size hand and they fit me really well. If you have large or larger hands the Palm Swells will become a favorite, especiallu after they exfoliate your hands! In all seriousness though, if you like the grip, feel and teture of the rubber grips, then I have a feeling you should look for something simiar for the S2. Suggestion? Take the grips off the SP-01 Shadow and put them onto the S2, just to see how they fit. The feel is going to be the same for the most part with the exception of that dog leg on the S2. LOK Grips has a great return/exchange policy, if you don’t like them you can send them back, but I doubt they get very many returns. I hope this helps and let me know how things work out with your grips! Did you get the S2 OR yet?
@@CZFanGrrl pick up S2 OR tomorrow. Can’t sleep with excitement. Been waiting a while. I know that the rubber grips from my CZ Sp01 Shadow wouldn’t fit my new S2 OR. Just curious. My original Shadow is a great gun and got me hooked on CZ. I guess I will try the LOK Palm Swell Bogies. Thank you my friend. Hope you know that a lot of people are here for you. You exemplify what great family the gun community represents. Also, you have created many CZ Fans. Thank you as always.
@John Frizzell Oh my gosh you sound like me when I was ordering my CZs! They are so addictive. Have you decided on your optic yet? I’m pretty sure I have the best subscribers on RUclips hands down.
@@CZFanGrrl I will be putting a Trijicon SRO 5MOA red dot on my CZ Shadow 2 OR.
@John Frizzell Very nice! We’ll have sort of matching guns. If you do go with the LOK Grip palm swell Bogies I would love to hear what you think of them and some photos would be nice too!
I love your videos! Thank you very much for posting your video. Have you had a scenario where the slide goes into battery if you insert a magazine firmly? If so any chance you know what could be the cause of it?
@Lubo Stojanov. YES! All the time and it’s something I appreciate when it happens because it saves me from having to manually release the slide. This is a common occurance when the magazine is basically slammed into place, it has to be very firm. I think what happens is that it displaces the slide enough to release the mag release/slide lock control. There is nothing to be adjusted or fixed here, insert the mag a little less forcefully is about all I suppose. In competition or anytime you need to be fast on the reloads, this is a good thing! Thank you for the feedback Lubo, I appreciate the comments and feedback!
Nothing like the Sgadow 2 after you do a trigger job, cut the slide, port the barrel, install a new extractor, and so on. The orange is better, but serious competitors use Tanfoglios or Buls if not custom-built. It is a fine gun but a production gun built and to a price point.
@rouguemodel What kind of a Tanfoglio or Bul is Eric Grauffel shooting?
Hi. New to shadow 2 here. Thinking of making it SAO.
I am not a competitive shooter.
Why did you change from cajun to Eemann?
Congratulations on obtaining a Shadow 2. It’s a fantastic gun and I think you’ll love it in the SAO version. The extended safety is a good add on to that, but if you’re not shooting competitively it’s not as important. I switched from Cajun to Eemann Tech because I have a couple friends that compete at World’s Levels IPSC and that’s what they use and in my experiments with reloading, I get more power from the Eemann Tech using lighter loads (less recoil) yet still able to set off the non-Federal primers which are usually hard to come by. That’s just my preference. Hope the conversion goes well! You won’t need the disconnector in there any longer but you’ll need a SAO trigger. There’s a huge selection at www.ipscstore.com but anywhere that sells Eemann Tech will likely also have some.
Awesome, thanks for the reply
Planning on upgrading my cz s2. Do you have a list of all the parts you replaced? Great video as always :)
Thank you! If you look in the description, go to the time stamp for the parts needed.
Hi cz fan girl, what trigger kit did you purchase, pro package from Cajun?
@Adam Limbag Thanks for asking. I started off with all CGW parts and then took them all out and replaced them with Eemann Tech Ultimate spring and Ultimate Trigger. Currently running a 9# main spring which is igniting Campro Primers (similar to CCI or S&B) and giving me about a 5.5# trigger pull, with a 10lb progeswive recoil spring, extended firing pin, comp disco, reduced power ultimate trigger spring. If I run Federal primered reloads then I drop in a tuned 8# main spring and it gives me about 5# D/A and a sick 1.25 single action.
Hello! I see at 32:35 you are sanding the side of the slide. So do you also sand the top side of that rail? Or is sanding the side sufficient enough? I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and I’m trying to find the best areas to sand to make my racking feel smoother
You’re not “sanding” with the microgrit pads, you’re polishing. The nitride in those areas are going to wear off through action polishing (firing ammunition down range). Hand polishing speeds up the process. Hope this helps!
Everything ok? Haven't seen a video in quite some time?
@C Kim I’m still alive! It’s been -22C here (not inlcuding the windchill which drops it down to -40C, so not ideal for hanging around outside . How are you? And Happy New Year! Hope all is well where you are at. Thanks for checking in!
@@CZFanGrrl Happy New Year! Guess I forgot it gets chilly this time of the year for you! LOL. Doing as well as everyone else with the Panicdemic. Hope to see a video soon. thought RUclips was playing games again.
@C Kim Nope, RUclips still loves me. LOL. Hopefully when the weather improves!
Hi, what is the popsicle stick like polisher? Where did you get it from?
@Feel-Am Boy that is a microgrit finishing stick. You can get it from Amazon in the US.
www.amazon.com/Micro-Mesh-MICRO-4N0000V-Colored-Sanding/dp/B003ELIO0A/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2V1EWJ64QN21U&keywords=micro+mesh+sanding+sticks&qid=1640147107&sprefix=micro+mesh+sanding+sticks%2Caps%2C223&sr=
Or in Canada. Also from Amazon.
www.amazon.ca/dp/B003ELIO0A/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_AWDXW6YQXB8581QEK7FN
They work great. Especially on flat level surfaces like the rails on the slide.
Do you do polish all your CZ and what's the SA/DA trigger pull after polish? Do you replace any part?
I always appreciate your video.
Thank you kindly
All your questions are answered in the video. In the description are time stamps to take you directly to what you want to know without having to sit through the whole video! Thanks!
Which trigger is that on the top gun with the dark blue handle at the beginning of the video ?
@Jude Cassar Thanks for asking! That is the Eemann Tech Ultimate Competition Trigger. I love it so much I replaced the flat trigger on the S2 with the dark grey grips with the Ultimate as well. You can find it here if you’re in Europe: www.ipscstore.com/en/cz/10341-eemann-tech-ultimate-trigger-for-cz.html Here if you’re in Canada: tigerarms.ca/product/copy-of-eemann-tech-trigger-bar-spring-cz-2/ And here if you are in the USA: www.shootersconnectionstore.com/EEMANN-TECH-ULTIMATE-TRIGGER-FOR-CZ-P6406.aspx Or just google Eemann Tech Ultimate Trigger. Enjoy!
@@CZFanGrrl Thank you for your reply. Do you know Which is the flatter trigger of the two between the Eeman Tech Ultimate and the Armory Craft Double DA/SA adjustable trigger ?
@Jude Cassar Glad to help! So I went to Armory Craft’s site and looked at their adjustable triggers. They have the Flat, the Tactical and the Target. The Target looks to be the closest to the Ultimate. The Flat looks to be the closest to the trigger on the gun with the dark grey grips in the video. Without an Armory Craft trigger to actually physically compare it to, it’s my best guess. Also, I didn’t see DA/SA triggers, just SAO triggers. Send a link for the DA if you can.
@@CZFanGrrl sorry I don't know how to attach a link to this reply but if you go to their website and click on shop then scroll to CZ Adjustable Trigger and open the page you will see a picture with 2 Orange Shade 2. That's where the DASA Dual Adjustable triggers are. I like the Eemantech brass trigger but being a softer metal that can't be heat treated. I didn't know how durable it is.
@@CZFanGrrl I like the EemanTech brass trigger but not being heat treated, I just don'
t know how durable it is. Being a softer metal I'm concerned about the the pin holes wearing out and enlarging over time.
While cleaning my shadow 2 compact with slide removed I accidentally dropped the hammer. If damage was to occur where would I see it or do you think a couple of hammer drops with no slide? I should be OK?
@nealgunn5862 You and the gun will be fine. You should see one of my earlier videos where in my enthusiasm to demonstrate the smoothness of the trigger I repeatedly pulled the trigger (and subsequently dropped the hammer on nothing because the slide was removed like in your case). From a metallurgical point of view, what occurs is “work hardening”, when a harder metal strikes a softer metal (ie, a steel hammer striking silver repeatedly. The silver will work harden, the steel will not. The silver molecules become disordered and small and with enough time and blows the silver will become brittle and snap. But this would mean a lot of prolonged hammer blows over an extended length of time, The Shadow 2 hammer and the frame are the same metal (same hardness), it would take a long time for damage to occur. Enjoy the gun! The Shadow 2 is an amazing piece of equipment. BTW. How are you liking the compact? I would have gotten one but our idiot LiberalNDP government banned sales of handguns in Canada.
@@CZFanGrrl wow thank you for the detailed response. I’ve been looking all over the RUclips to find a good answer and I think I found it. Thank you very much.
@nealgunn5862 No worries! Enjoy that gun!
So I know this video isn't about my question but I am picking up my first OR shadow 2 tomorrow and can you please tell me where I might be able to find a right handed (left side) extended ambi safety lever? Gun is almost not very useable for my 3 gun competitions without one and does not appear to ship with them anymore...
@SD3Gunner I buy most of my stuff from www.ipscstore.com www.ipscstore.com/en/search?controller=search I’m in Canada so this is the most reliable source for me. If you’re in the USA, CZ Custom might be your best bet. You’re right, they no longer ship with extended safeties in the USA and never did in Canada. Hope this helps. Google Eemann Tech, they also have a supplier in Florida I think.
Hi, are you experiencing any light strikes primers with the 9 pound hammer spring?
@Samir Attia No, not at all with the 9# Eemann Tech, but I do very occasionally with the 8# Eemann Tech. The 9# will set off everything. CCI, Campro, S&B, Winchester and of course Federal. With the 8# and 9# it’s a good idea to run the extended firing pin with the RPFPS.
@@CZFanGrrl thank you so very much.
@Samir Attia If you happen tobe lucky enough to get your hands on Federal primers or Ammunition, the 8# Eemann Tech man spring sets those off quite easily. In fact I tune the 8# Eemann Tech even further by cutting 3 - 4 coils from it and it still sets off all Federal Primers. Enjoy and thanks for commenting!
@@CZFanGrrl I was using the CGW 8.5# hammer spring with only federal primers. The trigger was a pleasure, the double action was more like Apex Tactical trigger in my P-10, and the single action was more like 1#. Then, it became very hard to get federal primers, and the 8.5# to even 11.5# pound didn’t really do a good job with some of the Ammo out there. Lots of light strikes and some time nothing is fired lol. The gun ran fine with the CGW 13# spring, but the trigger became very heavy.
@Samer Attia I stopped using the CGW springs because they’re not great under any circumstances. LOL. Did you pick up some Eemann Tech springs?
Ok now I am pissed! Cannot get ONE S2 OR in USA, had to add an adapter for my Cmore Rts2! Ans all the darn primers up in the Great White North too🥲
@AZVIDS. Can’t get one in the US? That’s probably because I’m buying them all, hahaha. Yup, we’ve got loads of Optic Ready Shadow 2’s mostly because the run on them was pretty much done in 2019; I bought my first one in January 2019 and second one in summer of 2019 and everyone in 2020 had all that cash on hand from being on lock down, nothing else to spend it on. And no shortage of primers either. Sorry! (But not really, hahah)
great
Very educational. Maybe you said before, but why are you favoring the Eeman triger kit instead of Cajun gun works?
And is the Shadow still capable to eat all kind of ammo after part changing or it becomes more picky with ammo?
@Kodrean23 Thanks! Yup, I’ve mentioned it a few times why I favour the Eemann Tech. The company lives and breathes competitive sport shooting. Not sure who CGW has on their roster of elitist world shooters. But if the world class shooters are running Eemann Tech and RC Tech then that’s what I’m running as well, despite not being anywhere near a world class competitive shooter. But I do appreciate a finely tuned gun. So I’m running a 9# Eemann Tech main spring as stock and it eats everything (primers), including the hard S&B, CCI and Campro. If I’m shooting Federal I stick in one of my custom tuned 8# Eemann Tech mainsprings for the scariest lightest single action imagineable It’s the only time a trigger has suprised me. You were talking about primers and not the nose cone shape of the bullet right? The Shadow 2 regardless of what trigger kit you’re running is not a fan of truncated cones. I seen too many shooters run into problems with them. Solved usually by reaming out the chamber. Thanks for commenting!
@@CZFanGrrl thank you for the answer and sharing experience with me. I am relatively new to this and have Shadow 2 stock, so that's why I try to gather as much as info I can. Who uses Eeman tech from elite shooters? What uses Eric Graufel 😁😁?
@Kodreanu23 Welcome to the world of CZ and that is good to inform yourself! Two that I personally know are Rob Engh and Paul Hagiantoniou. Eric Grauffel I don’t know, but I’m pretty sure he isn’t using CGW. www.ericgrauffelonlineshop.com/en/214-eemann-tech 🤣👍🏻 Hope this helps!
@@CZFanGrrl thank you for the all information ❤️❤️❤️
@Kodrean23 My pleasure and I am glad I could help! Are you new to IPSC - USPSA? The Eemann Tech Ultimate trigger is also a fantastic upgrade to the stock trigger. It’s adjustable and I installed it on my competition gun and then immediately ordered another one for my spare. I bought mine from www.ipscstore.com, but you can find them anywhere Eemann Tech is sold. Good luck with your shooting! (and competing).
Can I ask you where did you purchase the polishing pads and polishing sticks….thanks
@Gary Combs. Yes, I get all the polishing pads and sticks from Amazon. Available in the US and Canada. Just search for microgrit polishing and you'll get hits for what you need.
I recently picked up a Shadow 2 OR, and had the frame Cerakoted. I wanted to do some polishing (which is how I found this video) and was wondering if you (or anyone else) had any opinions about using a Dremel for this sort of polishing. Would it be overkill for something like this?
Overkill! Dremels run at too high an RPM and you run the risk of potentially removing too much. I have a Foredom flexshaft used by goldsmiths and runs a low variable RPM and I don’t even use it for polishing the gun parts. Unnecessary Get those micro grit polishing pads I refer to, available on Amazon everywhere and polish by hand. All you are wanting to do is remove the nitride and smooth any surface grit, not remove metal, which is what will probably happen with a Dremel. Congrats on your purchase! What optic are you thinking of running on it?.
@@CZFanGrrl Hey, thanks for the reply! I took your advice and ordered the polishing pads. I have this problem where I need to have the latest toys, so I went with a Trijicon RMR HD for an optic. It feels weird, this being the first pistol I've shot that doesn't have iron sights, even to co-witness with the optic. On one hand I like having them there, so I got a plate with a dovetail for a rear sight, but on the other this is purely for range fun and perhaps competition (and I have a top-loading battery) so I'm more torn than Natalie Imbruglia.
Hey Cory> Glad you’re going the polishing pad route, I have a video on using the polishing pads to put a mirror finish on an aluminum Springer Precision magazine brake. Getting a mirror finish on aluminum is probably the hardest thing to accomplish. The Trijicon RMRHD is unknown to me, I know the Trijicon RMR, so I’m going to check that out! I shot irons in competitive shooting matches before making the switch to optics and have never looked back. At one point I even removed my front sight because I thought it was messing with my brain and dividing my attention from focusing on the optic. Give yourself time to get used to shooting with an optic. You’re probably going to be slower initially, but the learning curve is fast and you’ll be amazed at how quickly your accuracy improves. It almost felt like “cheating” initially because I improved so fast. Top loading battery is BOSS! Checked out the RMR HD, that’s a nice robust looking optic. (Natalie Imbruglia reference - 🤣).
How often should you change the springs?
@Adolfo Gallardo JR When you’re competing at your level you’ll want to stay on top of them. For me, I replace the trigger spring when it breaks, not a big deal for me because I have an identical spare CZ OR S2 if it goes at any point during a match. But really, I run them until they break. Which has so far after 3 years has been never. My round count is a lot lower than yoru though. Trigger bar spring, sear last a long time, maybe forever. The recoil spring is the one that’ll tell you when it’s time to replace and your cases are flying too far away. If you’re running light loads the firing spring will last long time as well. If suddenly you’re getting light strikes on the primers then it might be time to replace the main spring. Good to hear from you again Adolfo, have you made Grand Master?
@@CZFanGrrl not for carry optics… work has been keeping me from shooting.
@Adolfo Gallardo JR But then in Production? Congrats! Work….it gets in the way of everything fun.
I love you!!!!
@Kevin Gosselin Thank you for enjoying the channel! Are you new to the Shadow 2?
I have a shadow 2 SAO any recommendations on what parts to upgrade? @czfangrll
@ JIBRILSAUTO96. Nice! Polishing goes a long way. If you want, you can upgrade the trigger spring, hammer bar spring with competition Eemann Tech parts. What is your SAO trigger pulling at currently?
@@CZFanGrrl thanks for fast reply I’ll have to check what the Sao is currently pulling at if had to guess somewhere in the 3# range. Do you recommend EEMANN over CWG?
@JIBRILSAUTO96 Happy to help! I’ve tried CGW initially, but switched to Eemann Tech awhile ago. 3# trigger pull sounds about right. Which is very nice for stock. Polishing the metal on metal parts and spring changes will probably get it down a bit more as well.
where did you get the stainless slide stop and safety?
I “made” them. Polished off the nitride coating. The parts don’t rust. Thanks for asking.
Can you tell me how you did it? Sandpaper, buffing compound, etc?
@Beamer1108 I used 3M microgrit polishing pads. Start with 600grit and work your way up to 12,000grt. I did a check on Amazon.ca and they still have them in the 2” x 2” size and 4” x 3” size. I used the 2” x 2” size. Not sure if Amazon.com has them, but if you search the term “Micro Mesh Polishing Pads” you should get some hits. Any other search term will net you nothing. Must be “Micro Mesh Polishing Pads”, It takes awhile to work through the grits, but you get a nice shiny steel finish. Be sure to use a light coating of gun oil on them afterwards. The nitrid finish protects against rusting. I also polished a barrel to steel and have never had it rut on me. You just want to remove the Nitrid finish, not metal, so don’t get carried away. To polish in the grooves I used 3M radial bristle discs on a Foredom Flexshaft, but you can also carefully use a Dremel, but have far less control unless you have a speed foot control for it. Hope this helps! Sonja