As a matter fact, I don’t even believe there were two Henry’s all because of the personality and memories that Henry has after his rebuild makes me think there is only one Henry I like to let you know the black 5s has their metal wheel a bit away from the back driving wheels and closer to the front driving wheels which that makes me think even if Henry was 4-6-2 they could probably just modify the driving chassis even removing the back trolling wheels not to mention Henry was meant to be expensive what if Topham had got the idea for the Workmans in crew selling some of Henry’s parts that weren’t supposed to stay before rebuilding him
My headcanon is that when Henry was rebuilt, instead of being completely rebuilt as as a Black Five, he simply had the parts of a black five (namely the Boiler, Firebox, and Tender) integrated into his Gresley inspired design. He basically looks like that one photoshop done by the Unlucky Tug’s Thomas Debunked short on Henry’s Rebuild.
I believe that Henry was given a rebuild because Sir Topham Hatt the first send away to crew on the LMS he given a new shape new boiler and a firebox a new cab and new Falerd tender
I Think Your Reasons Are Valid. I put the wall theme wile He Was Getting Rebuild. TheTramBand (I think that's the name) Extended It 6 Years Ago. I Don't Think Henry Wasn't Scrapped.
Ah yes, the "Three Strikes Formula" for Awdry. XD - One. (William Middleton) - Two! (A.R Payne) - THREE! (Reginald Payne) YOU'RE OUT! (Awdry's "Alright! That's it!" moment that lead to him initially wanted to write Henry out of the series...only to eventually rework into into a character he can utilize and actually became a character that really grew on him over time.)
In my au Henry was a experimental version of a Gner A1 and C1 and then later he was rebuilt into a stainer black five in my Thomas au and that’s my ideal Henry’s rebuilt I hope you like my ideal take on herny rebuilt in my au scorchzane
I don't know what to say about this but I can highly confirmed yes he was rebuilt he got an overhaul of a new tank and boiler + a tender water budge rebuilt because if he was dead his new counterpart would be built in 1940 when the second world War had its first birthday, but then Henry was built in 1919 so Henry is actually 105 years old, so yeah I'm not preparing a giant three paragraphs this video since this theory is actually very dumb not to be rude, it was just an overhaul and he was wiped out when he was being taken to the works and rebuilt an overhaul. As the TTTE wiki says "Before his rebuild, Henry is a freelance design, combining aspects of the Black Five shape and his original shape in The Railway Series, as budgetary constraints prevented the crew from constructing two separate models for him. Changes made to Henry's model for his old shape include a tapered firebox, inside steam pipes and the topfeed being removed. Additionally, Henry originally lost his splashers following his rebuild, however these were later added back in the second series. Contrary to how his old shape was portrayed in The Railway Series, Henry does not have a sloped running board and is depicted as having always been a 4-6-0, while in the books he was originally a 4-6-2." and yes Henry is a former LNER owned engine that was an A1 and another LNER class hybrid but then got rebuilt into a Black Five.
Narrow Gauge came up with a way for the Henrys theory to work while making sure the same Henry's story wasn't ruined. Here's a link to find out how he did it: docs.google.com/document/d/18x7cfBtictygFQ0qLKwGmMNZJLq8qZPS2WdTTB8tSjA/edit
Well I don’t think I believe this theory of the two Henry’s theory my only believe that he was rebuilt into a stained black 5 like remove the parts of gner pacific and liner a1 pacific like giving him new parts form the stainer black 5 like removing the steaming problems like a mixed into two firebox’s I believe they remove it to replace a larger firebox form the stainer black 5s
Is it true James is a Class 28 with a Fowler tender? I only ask because i am from Huddersfield were they served and we eventually scrapped one of them also one 15 miles down the rails at Mirfield was scrapped aswell sadly. They were designed by George Hughes in 1910 they also had poor build quality's tho non survive
@@SparklingJam this was before it shut down, then reopened. otherwise back then there was a mission where you had to find two pieces of a plan for old shape Henry. One behind the S7 knapford shed and another behind the stationmasters house at tidmouth. Sadly that mission is not longer in BTWF.
@@olivergould3878 Awdry never elaborated, as for the green water that’s solely Victor Tanzig’s solution. Though it likely something similar was implied
is probably due to the fact since he’s a stolen Grelsey design built in 1919 it makes sense for people to think he’s from the 1915 draft, since it was never out into use.
@@A_Sudrian_LBSCR_Mogulhonestly for as good as an artist as Dalby was, he really just did not care for detail for some reason, even when Awdry provided him reference material to work with
Discord for those who are interested: discord.gg/UwUsSpRrc6
Your Henry's theory really inspired me in your previous video, on how his reconstruction could have occurred.
Damn bro, my sister's birthday is today.
Oh happy birthday to her then
Happy Birthday to your sister
As a matter fact, I don’t even believe there were two Henry’s all because of the personality and memories that Henry has after his rebuild makes me think there is only one Henry I like to let you know the black 5s has their metal wheel a bit away from the back driving wheels and closer to the front driving wheels which that makes me think even if Henry was 4-6-2 they could probably just modify the driving chassis even removing the back trolling wheels not to mention Henry was meant to be expensive what if Topham had got the idea for the Workmans in crew selling some of Henry’s parts that weren’t supposed to stay before rebuilding him
My headcanon is that when Henry was rebuilt, instead of being completely rebuilt as as a Black Five, he simply had the parts of a black five (namely the Boiler, Firebox, and Tender) integrated into his Gresley inspired design. He basically looks like that one photoshop done by the Unlucky Tug’s Thomas Debunked short on Henry’s Rebuild.
I believe that Henry was given a rebuild because Sir Topham Hatt the first send away to crew on the LMS he given a new shape new boiler and a firebox a new cab and new Falerd tender
I Think Your Reasons Are Valid. I put the wall theme wile He Was Getting Rebuild. TheTramBand (I think that's the name) Extended It 6 Years Ago. I Don't Think Henry Wasn't Scrapped.
I can imagine Henry 1. Who I see as a C1 or a C4 getting replaced by Henry 2
Also, I like that Gordon's a Raven A2
Ah yes, the "Three Strikes Formula" for Awdry. XD
- One. (William Middleton)
- Two! (A.R Payne)
- THREE! (Reginald Payne)
YOU'RE OUT! (Awdry's "Alright! That's it!" moment that lead to him initially wanted to write Henry out of the series...only to eventually rework into into a character he can utilize and actually became a character that really grew on him over time.)
the three strikes of the Reverend Wilbert Awdry
My take on Henry is an LBSCR H2 and later rebuilt into a Black 5
The only LNER Atlantic i see Henry as is an LNER C5
From LB&SCR to LMS, fascinating
I know this is kind of crazy like a part of me left behind they saved Henry’s face and slapped on a black five
Like a part of me stayed behind save Henry’s face and switch to black 5😂
In my au Henry was a experimental version of a Gner A1 and C1 and then later he was rebuilt into a stainer black five in my Thomas au and that’s my ideal Henry’s rebuilt I hope you like my ideal take on herny rebuilt in my au scorchzane
Well this is a strangely better then the other one
I don't know what to say about this but I can highly confirmed yes he was rebuilt he got an overhaul of a new tank and boiler + a tender water budge rebuilt because if he was dead his new counterpart would be built in 1940 when the second world War had its first birthday, but then Henry was built in 1919 so Henry is actually 105 years old, so yeah I'm not preparing a giant three paragraphs this video since this theory is actually very dumb not to be rude, it was just an overhaul and he was wiped out when he was being taken to the works and rebuilt an overhaul. As the TTTE wiki says "Before his rebuild, Henry is a freelance design, combining aspects of the Black Five shape and his original shape in The Railway Series, as budgetary constraints prevented the crew from constructing two separate models for him. Changes made to Henry's model for his old shape include a tapered firebox, inside steam pipes and the topfeed being removed. Additionally, Henry originally lost his splashers following his rebuild, however these were later added back in the second series. Contrary to how his old shape was portrayed in The Railway Series, Henry does not have a sloped running board and is depicted as having always been a 4-6-0, while in the books he was originally a 4-6-2." and yes Henry is a former LNER owned engine that was an A1 and another LNER class hybrid but then got rebuilt into a Black Five.
I hate the idea of their being two Henrys because it undermines his character arc and would defeat the purpose of his own story.
that a lot to take in, but, they propably remove henry from his old shape and put in to a black 5
Narrow Gauge came up with a way for the Henrys theory to work while making sure the same Henry's story wasn't ruined. Here's a link to find out how he did it: docs.google.com/document/d/18x7cfBtictygFQ0qLKwGmMNZJLq8qZPS2WdTTB8tSjA/edit
3:53 *construction process
actually the builders put henrys boiler on to the stanier 5
since his old body was badly dameged and beyond repair
Well I don’t think I believe this theory of the two Henry’s theory my only believe that he was rebuilt into a stained black 5 like remove the parts of gner pacific and liner a1 pacific like giving him new parts form the stainer black 5 like removing the steaming problems like a mixed into two firebox’s I believe they remove it to replace a larger firebox form the stainer black 5s
so now he wasnt scrapped
Is it true James is a Class 28 with a Fowler tender? I only ask because i am from Huddersfield were they served and we eventually scrapped one of them also one 15 miles down the rails at Mirfield was scrapped aswell sadly. They were designed by George Hughes in 1910 they also had poor build quality's tho non survive
according to the IOS Book and offical canon yes
here’s the link to it: drive.google.com/file/d/1Z1R1eWWX2-iwRTVxmuyYj5ebrgzE9KCs/view
@@ScorchZane I wonder how some characters in the books get Fowler Tenders before they are even built.
@@ScorchZane thank you just read it thank you so much
@@A_Sudrian_LBSCR_Mogul sometimes I wonder that as well, which is why I often disregard the Fowler tender idea
Where did u get the old shape Henry model for blue train with friends
@@SparklingJam this was before it shut down, then reopened. otherwise back then there was a mission where you had to find two pieces of a plan for old shape Henry. One behind the S7 knapford shed and another behind the stationmasters house at tidmouth. Sadly that mission is not longer in BTWF.
@@ScorchZane well what about the others? Like the other engines or RWS accurate characters
@@SparklingJam can’t say, they were all removed when BTWF started to update more and more
@@ScorchZane damn
Still good videos
Sorry to be a pain just wondering would Henry undergoing a rebuild be painful?
I don’t think so since he would miles not be awake
@@ScorchZane So would he have something like green water like Victor Tanzig would add before undergoing the rebuild?
@@olivergould3878 Awdry never elaborated, as for the green water that’s solely Victor Tanzig’s solution. Though it likely something similar was implied
@@ScorchZane Thanks
Why do people potray his old shape as a 4-6-2
The fact that the A1 1915 Draft has a 4-6-2 wheel configuration, but in the books we see that Henry is 4-6-0, is confusing
is probably due to the fact since he’s a stolen Grelsey design built in 1919 it makes sense for people to think he’s from the 1915 draft, since it was never out into use.
@@A_Sudrian_LBSCR_Mogulhonestly for as good as an artist as Dalby was, he really just did not care for detail for some reason, even when Awdry provided him reference material to work with
@@ScorchZane honestly that is a reasonable assumption to make
Request: the ideal Alled greedy
He is just a fan interpretation, he is not canon
@@A_Sudrian_LBSCR_Mogul okay how about ideal Emily
I find the whole theory of Henry being scrapped and replaced is stupid!
@@ScorchZane I wasn't talking about Percy or the W&S engines.
Oh whoops wrong comment sorry about that.
@@ScorchZane That's alright.