Basic Go Shapes of Life and Death

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @ronbuchanan4026
    @ronbuchanan4026 5 лет назад +115

    My wife and I have been changing over from Chess to Go, and she bought me a Go board for this past Christmas. It is your channel that I watch more than any other. You are a great instructor, keep up the videos!

    • @tashikrtv6878
      @tashikrtv6878 4 года назад +8

      You don't have to switch completely though.

    • @adsoyad-ln7zb
      @adsoyad-ln7zb 4 года назад +2

      tashikrTV And he can

    • @tashikrtv6878
      @tashikrtv6878 4 года назад +2

      @@adsoyad-ln7zb wut?

    • @panavsingh9834
      @panavsingh9834 4 года назад +5

      @@tashikrtv6878 @ad soyad means he can play both of them or one of them, it's his choice

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@tashikrtv6878yes he does. English chess is booooo. Personally I’ve switched to Xiangqi, or Chinese chess. Vastly superior, and unlike go or Shogi, no annoying anime/Netflix people who are pretending to be into it because of some TV show.

  • @andrespineda7620
    @andrespineda7620 4 года назад +22

    This is the most informative lesson I have found. Everybody else spends too much time talking about nothing and waste a lot of time. Here I learn quickly and walk away with a good set of rules that I can understand and apply in a game.
    Thank you very much and keep making these videos, please.

  • @prevostclement
    @prevostclement 4 года назад +40

    As a beginner, this video is priceless, thank you !

  • @alvarocastroregueiro
    @alvarocastroregueiro 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you, you explain better than others because you go from basic to complex with patience and without rushing. I will watch the channel more to learn more

  • @prathameshjoshi1497
    @prathameshjoshi1497 4 года назад +13

    Your ability to explain things that others can understand is excellent. I am learning from you the deep concepts of Go. Thank you

  • @duyphan264
    @duyphan264 3 года назад +8

    Started learning to play Go a few days ago, and your channel is the only source that I can understand the reasons behind placing (or not placing) any stones. Stephanie is just amazing in making things simple to understand!

  • @manuelmama
    @manuelmama 5 лет назад +15

    gracias desde España. Tengo 10 años y me gusta aprender Go contigo. muchas gracias señorita Yin.

  • @FISHD00G
    @FISHD00G 2 года назад +4

    I'm having a bit of trouble understanding why the square-4 (13:30) is dead. I see that if black has sente, there's no way to move without giving white the ability to take the key point of the resultant bent-3. But isn't it also true that white has no way to play that doesn't create the same ability for black? That is, white can't move inside the square without creating a bent-3 that black will then claim the key point on. What am I missing here?

    • @rmath101
      @rmath101 2 года назад

      Agree, I'm also confused by this.

    • @Igor_054
      @Igor_054 2 месяца назад

      White plays in the corner of that square. If black does nothing, white plays in any if the remaining points, putting black in atari. If black decides to fight back, they can capture white's stone, but this will result in self atari. White takes everything in the next move.

  • @TuringMachine001
    @TuringMachine001 3 года назад +13

    0:00 Intro
    0:50 Definitions and why you need two eyes
    3:35 Real eyes vs false eyes
    Basic shapes:
    5:55 two-in-a-row eye (self atari, snapback)
    7:50 straight three (vital point)
    10:00 bent three
    11:05 square four (sente, gote, more space not always better!)
    14:15 pyramid
    15:55 cross five / flower
    17:30 bulky five / knife-handle five
    18:50 rabbity six
    20:48 already alive questions
    21:10 bent four
    22:15 straight four
    22:45 rectangular six

  • @randynelson5998
    @randynelson5998 Год назад

    You are easily the best educational resource for Go on RUclips. Thank you so much for sharing all these lessons!

  • @loupax
    @loupax 4 года назад +33

    All these emergent patterns rising from such simple rules, and yet you can't really play unless you name and learn those patterns.
    There's probably a lesson about learning hidden there somewhere.

    • @panavsingh9834
      @panavsingh9834 4 года назад

      true!

    • @filiepsamyn4450
      @filiepsamyn4450 3 года назад

      Why was the black stone vertically of the white stone in the dead eye not removed?

  • @bandofdegenerates
    @bandofdegenerates Год назад +1

    Outstanding channel. I've watched a couple now and I really like the no-nonsense approach. Ca't wait to play again and use some of this!

  • @LuisMedina-cr9db
    @LuisMedina-cr9db 5 лет назад +25

    The hardest thing for a beginning player like me: is to thing ahead, I can not see if a group is dead or not until I play in side of it and see the result.

    • @someone4673
      @someone4673 5 лет назад +1

      i'm a begginer too. i just imagine the board and play some moves on the imaginary board and the one that works i play on the real board:

  • @mgWadell
    @mgWadell 4 года назад +3

    AT 12:46 in the Square 4 - why is that already dead? Can black just avoid playing within that territory? What would happen if white plays first in a Square 4?

  • @tenj00
    @tenj00 5 лет назад +233

    My right ear feels lonely.

  • @DS-hz4ie
    @DS-hz4ie 6 лет назад +26

    As a beginner I have to say that this is a lot to take in and it will take me time to go see it all. But it's presented very well.

    • @SighrisSargon
      @SighrisSargon 5 лет назад

      Did you watch, and give yourself time to absorb, the 3 (or 4?) previous videos she made?

  • @vj7248
    @vj7248 5 лет назад +18

    I understand life and death and eyes 👁 alot better now

  • @rwharrington87
    @rwharrington87 Год назад

    These videos are very helpful. Thanks!

  • @Viewpoint314
    @Viewpoint314 3 года назад +1

    Excellent teacher, thank you!

  • @Samgurney88
    @Samgurney88 5 лет назад +3

    Thank you for your channel. I've been playing chess for a while and I've only just started learning Go. You're a good teacher - you are so clear for beginners. As beautiful as chess is, the rules of Go are much more elegant and introductory theory therefore seems much more logical, despite the fact that Go is in many respects a more sophisticated game.

  • @raffaelesimonelli
    @raffaelesimonelli 11 месяцев назад

    Even though it is not the same thing, by analogy, the eye reminds me of the infantry formation necessary to counter cavalry in the wars of the 1700s. Thank you for the lesson.😊

  • @sukriyesoyer2664
    @sukriyesoyer2664 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for this amazing channel!!!💕I tried to find some quality, helpful channels teaching the go game in english. I could only find a channel and it is yours. Also you are really good at teaching that i can undertsand even though i'm not fluent in english. So glad we have your channel!!😊

  • @vassilisbakalas3423
    @vassilisbakalas3423 3 года назад +1

    excellent teaching

  • @kyuplayersmind
    @kyuplayersmind 5 лет назад +3

    Very Nice lesson. Thanks. One suggestion, to help you institutionalize your institute: make a pdf with your logo on it that sums up this vital lesson.
    I love your teachings. Tx

  • @baterickpatman
    @baterickpatman 4 года назад +2

    your explanation is excellent and the pace of the video is perfect :) I'm new to Go, thank you for your help!

  • @AT-sd4kw
    @AT-sd4kw 4 года назад +1

    Great video and channel. At the 5 min and 37 seconds mark of the video, why is legal for white to be in the false eye? Placing a white in the false eye means white is surrounded. Thanks

    • @ThotdeNomaden
      @ThotdeNomaden 2 года назад

      Because white suround a group. Of black stones with this move. Because these stones will be captured the white stone in the false eye will live and the move is not illegal.

  • @omepunkey
    @omepunkey 2 года назад

    I love these tutorials. Learning a lot. Thank you!

  • @otaku_central010
    @otaku_central010 3 года назад

    Thanks for free knowledge.

  • @stopthink7202
    @stopthink7202 8 месяцев назад

    love these videos but as a complete beginner, I have to ask, these huge surrounded shapes that you are showing us, do they frequently occur in a game of go? The games I have played so far have never had one colour surrounding another on that kind of scale. It's an achievement to even get a double eye.

  • @NOTmyProblem...
    @NOTmyProblem... 2 года назад

    These videos are really helpful 👍

  • @hikgerguy1234
    @hikgerguy1234 Год назад

    At marker 4:19, I'm not understanding why playing white in the left eye is illegal, but playing it in the eye on the right is ok. Can someone explain that a bit more? Not even a week into learning Go, so this is a bit confusing right now.

    • @francis3266
      @francis3266 Год назад

      Because playling in the right eye will capture some black stones, creating freedoms for white. If a move looks like suicide at first but is actually capturing enemy stones it is legal by rule.

  • @Korkusuzo123
    @Korkusuzo123 5 лет назад +1

    Great videos. Helpful, precise and clear.

  • @1MarmadukeFan
    @1MarmadukeFan 3 года назад +1

    Tile drops at 15:44
    22:45 "Ractangular 6. It looks like a ractangular."

  • @boyar1978
    @boyar1978 4 года назад +2

    is it a good idea to create the two eyes in the very beginning? I started playing today against a computer. I tend to try to start creating the two eyes in the corner and attempt to keep making the eyes outward. Usually the computer out manuevers me but i tend to get almost an entire side.

    • @ShredST
      @ShredST 2 года назад

      Usually you don't create two eyes in the beginning because it's important to make big moves in the beginning to establish your influence on the board.

  • @biranit50
    @biranit50 Год назад

    what is the role of the 9 thick points on 4, 10, 16 colums??

  • @alemurra1
    @alemurra1 2 года назад

    Do you take the stones from the board ? And if you take them from it , can you use that space again if it is need it ? Can someone tell me please?

    • @bandofdegenerates
      @bandofdegenerates Год назад

      I'm certainly no expert. But I don't think there's any rule against throwing stones back in. However, if the shape is what it is, I imagine it'll just be a case of history repeating itself. That said, I did notice that once the eyes are established, it's an illegal move to put your stone back in because it would be insta-dead. Which I suppose is the very purpose of eyes.

  • @Dionisios.Iliopoulos
    @Dionisios.Iliopoulos 2 года назад

    Another amazing lecture. Thank you

  • @edwardredmond1969
    @edwardredmond1969 3 года назад +1

    hi stephanie. what is the origin of the 19x 19 board?
    why not play on a 21x21 board? this would be even more difficult & a real challenge for the best of players.

  • @francocuen6617
    @francocuen6617 3 года назад

    Much needed explanation! thanks so much!

  • @aaronbuchholz4184
    @aaronbuchholz4184 4 года назад

    Very helpful video!
    Anyone know where I can play against people? I only have the computer on my phone to play against.

  • @cloudsRniceC0M3
    @cloudsRniceC0M3 4 года назад +2

    google images: basic shapes
    draw them on paper including vital points
    give them nicknames (tetris L, bunny etc)
    keep next to you when, playing, puzzling

  • @abizern665
    @abizern665 6 лет назад +1

    Clear and thorough. Thank you!

  • @AlainPoker
    @AlainPoker 4 года назад

    great teacher. great explanation. thank you

  • @cardi2795
    @cardi2795 4 года назад

    At 18:00 why can't black play at the top right corner? Are we just looking for immediate ways to create eyes and not necessarily looking for all the possible moves?

    • @hakurou4620
      @hakurou4620 4 года назад

      Top right corner would make the eyeshape into a pyramid four, and it'd be whites move; white simply places their stone at the vital point and kills the group. Or do you mean "why cant black go through and play on the outside"? That... COULD be possible, if that move is a "forcing" move (i.e. white has to respond to it rather than kill the inner group. But, if white doesn't have to respond to that move, you're essentially giving up your entire shape there, which would most likely win white the game. 14 points for capturing your group, plus an additional 18 points of territory, so that'd be 32 points for white. You'd have to have a move that threatens white lose more than 32 points in order to play elsewhere.

  • @comunidadestrategojuegosde7869
    @comunidadestrategojuegosde7869 5 лет назад +2

    i love these videos. thanks!!

  • @yoshiwiseful
    @yoshiwiseful 4 года назад

    thank you ! for making these videos

  • @Harrycuff91
    @Harrycuff91 5 лет назад +3

    Love your stuff :) wanna see u play

  • @mtaur100
    @mtaur100 2 года назад

    Audio is not working. I'm up to 2 minutes into the video and there is no audio after the introduction music. Ads have audio. Lesson does not. Can you fix it, please, RUclips tech folks? I know I'm missing a good lesson. Thanks.

  • @potatoeconnectionmohawk1996
    @potatoeconnectionmohawk1996 4 года назад +4

    The reason i like Go so much is it seems to be the most balanced board game that represents warfare and military thinking. Risk is good but is unbalanced compared to this

  • @eac-ox2ly
    @eac-ox2ly 5 лет назад

    Wow, what a great tutorial. Loved it!

  • @Festoniaful
    @Festoniaful 4 года назад

    Learning a lot!

  • @nathanmcintosh2658
    @nathanmcintosh2658 4 года назад

    Great content

  • @Vidsquid0906
    @Vidsquid0906 4 года назад

    Great video!

  • @Fynmorphover
    @Fynmorphover 3 года назад +2

    I don't think you need to show the symmetrical cases every time... That could shave off 5 minutes of the video easily.

  • @snowwarden3711
    @snowwarden3711 3 года назад

    where do i buy those bowls and stones?

  • @thuanjourney
    @thuanjourney 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you so much

  • @BilalAhmed-hz2tt
    @BilalAhmed-hz2tt Год назад

    Ty

  • @csabakallai3830
    @csabakallai3830 2 года назад

    Love your accent in English :)

  • @hakurou4620
    @hakurou4620 4 года назад +4

    Some of the shapes that are alive on the center of the board (bent four, rectangular six) only live in sente if they're in the corner, so watch out.

    • @vellyxenya3970
      @vellyxenya3970 4 года назад

      Why is that? I would love to learn :)

    • @hakurou4620
      @hakurou4620 4 года назад

      @@vellyxenya3970 It's a little complex to explain in a single youtube comment, but while in the center of the board they will always have enough eye space to make two real eyes, because the edge of the board count as "both" players for the purpose of capturing, its possible to get undercut and have your group killed. You can read more about them as Sensei's -> senseis.xmp.net/?RectangularSixInTheCorner

  • @apester2
    @apester2 5 лет назад

    Wonderful!

  • @firerocket7343
    @firerocket7343 4 года назад

    Is it better to leave them die to waste your opponent move to capture? It also reduce the territory your opponent have right?

  • @worldisgoingcrazy851
    @worldisgoingcrazy851 4 года назад +1

    Great tutorial. If everybody starts playing for money the level of play will go up dramatically.

  • @VulcanOnWheels
    @VulcanOnWheels 4 года назад +1

    12:46 What if black avoids placing a stone inside their own group until there's only 1 space left?

    • @masonmonnie
      @masonmonnie 4 года назад +2

      Then it will die because there will be a bent three and your opponent can take the vital point.

  • @BHSAHFAD
    @BHSAHFAD 2 года назад

    ok now i am actually learning

  • @wenqing5917
    @wenqing5917 5 лет назад +3

    18:43 Stephanie said,"pokey five"

  • @callimatecalligraphy8513
    @callimatecalligraphy8513 3 года назад

    Nice!

  • @vg0o
    @vg0o 4 года назад

    if my friend and i have little knowledge of life&death shapes. and we can't agree on the score at the end. how can we play without agreeing upon those shapes.

  • @deeprollingriver5820
    @deeprollingriver5820 4 года назад +5

    I realized after watching this tutorial that I need to stick with checkers

  • @adamant8435
    @adamant8435 3 года назад +2

    She's so cute I'm in love😍💗

  • @masterofnone1481
    @masterofnone1481 4 года назад +2

    I’m in love 😍

  • @squidy7771
    @squidy7771 4 года назад +2

    Dad: "You see, if you play that move, I can take your stones."
    Me: "Oh, I see!"
    Video: "You see, if you play that move, you're DEAD!!"
    Me: "Oh... ok..?
    Dad: "And in this shape, which is a square with a dot sticking out-"
    Video: "It's a KNIFE!!"
    Me: I... uh...

  • @mingweihe8100
    @mingweihe8100 5 лет назад +1

    What if having more than 6 points inside, that would be awesome if someone can give the answer for this general pattern.

    • @handlebargg
      @handlebargg 5 лет назад +1

      If you have 7 or more life cells inside, doesn't matter what shape they are, they are Alive

    • @hakurou4620
      @hakurou4620 4 года назад +2

      @@handlebargg Butterfly seven can be made into seki, but that's the only one. ( this shape -> senseis.xmp.net/diagrams/49/8f4018a8a18487905220dad99c829ae3.png ). If black plays at 1, playing it out leads to a shape where both the inner black group and the outer white group share the same two liberties; whoever plays one of them will lose. Under japanese scoring, seki counts as points for neither player.

  • @30803080308030803081
    @30803080308030803081 4 года назад +5

    I like Stephanie. She is really pretty.

  • @wenqing5917
    @wenqing5917 5 лет назад +1

    By the way,she is using Japanese rules. Chinese rules is after a round is done,you need to take away the dead stone and count the territory AND stones

  • @bastienp7334
    @bastienp7334 5 лет назад +3

    Be careful ! When it's in the corner, the rectangle 6 is a sente live gote die !

  • @ex0ja
    @ex0ja 4 года назад +2

    I thought I had this until she got to the knife handle 5, then I realised I'll never remember all this

  • @miked4079
    @miked4079 4 года назад

    I'm not sure if you're saying "a legal" or "illegal"

  • @b00i00d
    @b00i00d 4 года назад +3

    what if i have one good eye, one patched-up eye and a hook?

  • @artalcoolique3341
    @artalcoolique3341 5 лет назад

    Whys it a square? What's the point of wasting turns just to make your eyes bulkier?
    And I thought all you had to do was surround stones to capture them, why weren't they captured? Why did white have to play the middle to capture?
    Also, are eyes only a middle of the board thing? Do you need to make eyes in the corners too?

    • @LeRotaku
      @LeRotaku 5 лет назад +1

      I am a semi-beginner but I will try to answer.
      The reason it's a square is because they cover the "cutting" points; she showed it in one of the earlier examples with two eyes, where if you're able to be "cut" from outside, the opponent will be able to put your "false" eye into an atari, and force you to fill it, leaving you with just one real eye.
      To answer your second question - it's a rule that you can capture a surrounded group with only 1 eye by placing a stone inside it. If the opponent has two real eyes, you can never fill both of them because the first one will always be a "suicidal" move. In other words, you can only play a suicidal move inside an eye if you already surrounded that group.
      Third question: eyes can be up against the wall as well. Same rules apply.

    • @fouronetwo813
      @fouronetwo813 4 года назад

      Think of the surrounded black formation as a medieval castle and the empty interestions inside as wells. As long as the castle has access to the fresh water it can withstand the siege.

  • @ehsaniakbari6625
    @ehsaniakbari6625 6 лет назад +2

    Hi there. I've got confused. you taught that a square-4 is 100% dead. however, I could not follow it. Imagine black made a square-4 which is totally surrounded by white. then if white plays first inside the square, we get a bent-3 with black sente live. though you mentioned that is dead, in this case black can save it. doesn't she?

    • @ncinaah
      @ncinaah 6 лет назад +2

      It's dead because white would never play inside the square.

    • @Jericho_Padilla
      @Jericho_Padilla 5 лет назад +5

      Its black Territory if white didnt play inside the box. But its 100% dead i think because White will play 2 stones adjacent to each other then black will kill it and a last snapback to kill the group

    • @vg0o
      @vg0o 4 года назад +3

      i tried with computer. very difficult for black to be alive unless white bluntly places two diagonal stones. (i am a novice, though. and still not sure under japanese rule how the players reach agreement on deciding whose territories it belongs to)

    • @bluewales73
      @bluewales73 3 года назад +1

      It took me a minute to figure it out, but if white plays there first then white can guarantee it dies. It takes several moves of back and forth and eventually devolves into either a straight 2 or a bent-3 on white's turn.
      I feel like she skipped part of the explanation. She showed that black can't change it into something safe, but she didn't show that white can kill it if white wants.

  • @redstick4722
    @redstick4722 4 года назад

    Rabbit 6 looks more like a cute minimalist squid imo

  • @deeprollingriver5820
    @deeprollingriver5820 4 года назад

    And here we have the dog lying on the couch. You’re dead no matter which way you move.

  • @jonnjonzz7006
    @jonnjonzz7006 2 года назад

    I love this girl she is so gorgeous

  • @gabi111able
    @gabi111able 3 года назад

    I solved all the puzzles till the one at 16:03, now I'm feeling tired haha

  • @shadowwalker4633
    @shadowwalker4633 Год назад

    After hitting a deer with my car -honey is it dead or alive 😂

  • @FancyNoises
    @FancyNoises 4 года назад

    Okay, so I'm shit at chess... but to me, having never learned Go, it seems like 80% of the explanations are unnecessary, because they are just logical extensions of things that she already explained. Maybe this is because I have played around with Conway's Game of Life? Also, it's algorithmic stuff. I think having done some programming as a kid helps me out.

    • @vg0o
      @vg0o 4 года назад +3

      opposite to me...

    • @FancyNoises
      @FancyNoises 4 года назад

      @@vg0o maybe part of my problem is that I understand a number of concepts in chess but I hardly ever get practice at applying them, which seems to be more difficult for me by orders of magnitude, whereas these Go concepts regarding various configurations of I shapes are mostly repeated adding of the same abstractions, which programming majors in.

    • @paulsobczak1484
      @paulsobczak1484 4 года назад +1

      @@vg0o you'll get it... Just play and start to get a feeling for it!

  • @hikgerguy1234
    @hikgerguy1234 Год назад

    At marker 6:25, you lost me. You play a black stone on the left liberty, then put a white stone on the right liberty and state that now the black group is captured. I don't understand the reasoning behind that. In fact, white was already surrounding the black group prior to that move, so why wasn't black declared captured at that point? Or for that matter, when you first started, why can't we state that the black group is already captured (even though it has two liberties). Think I'm missing a key point somewhere.

  • @Albioneastadventurer
    @Albioneastadventurer 5 лет назад

    She looks like the singer Jfla.

  • @_next223
    @_next223 4 года назад +2

    She's so gorgeous and smart. A wolf with two real eyes.

  • @Nekodnekod
    @Nekodnekod 11 месяцев назад

    man my right ear is lonely

  • @mythopoeic8236
    @mythopoeic8236 4 года назад

    :)

  • @288skp
    @288skp 2 года назад

    Lady is no doubt a good player but I can’t follow her explanations

  • @callmeenzy5715
    @callmeenzy5715 3 года назад

    Ayo she bad

  • @kevinmacaroni2524
    @kevinmacaroni2524 4 года назад

    For me, “intersection” might be an overrated word. White?

    • @dillonyoung5502
      @dillonyoung5502 4 года назад

      What would you call it instead of an intersection (which is what it is)

  • @fillibibi
    @fillibibi Год назад

    I think I'm completely in love with you.

  • @isn0t42
    @isn0t42 4 года назад +1

    Omae wa mou shindeiru.

  • @fachriem
    @fachriem 4 года назад

    thanks, you have a great mind, good explanation, nice eyes, beautiful face, including good body 😍

    • @tipsy6764
      @tipsy6764 3 месяца назад

      Inappropriate.

  • @bharatsangam2200
    @bharatsangam2200 3 года назад

    Useless .