So, I have a cumingigiana also. You might wanna consider cutting it back and adding the cutting to the pot, so it has a more full/structura look. No one has any time for her daddy long legs. My Hoya sunrise are my meh plants. They never Sun stress no matter what I do and are so blah. But they are so healthy and bloom- so we are stuck with each other lol.
Thanks for the suggestion. I did try that some time ago, but I had a very low success rate with the cuttings, which was frustrating. But I'm going to try it again, and give it a trellis and put it on a "bright" shelf. Thanks for watching, adding your suggestion, and sharing your "meh" plants.
AH014 - love it! My meh plant was the meredithii. No more! I'm a 3xs and your out type person. Same with guineau ghost, krimson princess and queen, and eriostemma or guppyii. I'll just admire them from afar! 😮 Thanks for sharing! Dee, NY
I hear you about "three strikes and you're out". Fortunately I'm on H meredithii number two, and it's doing ok. ...and there are several plants I have learned to admire from afar. Thanks for watching, Dee, and sharing your "meh"s.
My meh would be hoya sunrise. It was doing beautifully but all of a sudden it started dropping leaves, again. I picked it up and threw it in the trash. I made sure the others saw and understood what needed to be done.
@@dianebennett4440 My sunrise is one of my most gorgeous and dependable Hoya. Beautiful red sunstressing (from a grow light of course haha) and grows like a weed. Isn’t it funny how different Hoya do better or worse for different folks - all part of this fun hobby! Keeps us on our toes for sure.
Absolutely. It's good to set clear expectations from the beginning. The plants that saw that will remember and tell any new plants about it, too. Smart move. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
Ha ha ha! Thank you for the lol! Hope you find out who the dad is. I am growing Hoya from seed and really enjoying watching the process. My Meh Hoya is my Hoya Caudata Sumatra. I had moved it out of the cold window and it didn't appreciate it! With the soil out of the sunlight, the roots rotted. I chopped her up and am hoping she'll root in January.
I get that about H caudata 'Sumatra'. I've got one in self-watering, and another that's soon to be moved to S/W, and they seem to appreciate that set-up. Fingers crossed for your cuttings. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
Wow that’s going to be so exciting to see what those seeds grow up to be. How sleazy is she! Better keep an eye on her! 😂 my meh plant is my wayetti it’s ok-flowers- but it’s just here. Not one I go to all the time
I understand about H wayetii, but the "just there" plants are a good contrast for the splashy, drama plants. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
I love how you refer to your plants personalities. This is a fun episode and was so fun to watch last night after a long work week. I recently purchased a Hoya Irina. I hope she does well. My meh Hoya right now is my Curtisii, it really hasn’t grown and have a lot of die back.
Thanks. H curtisii can be problematic. Mine likes a super airy mix (no soil and almost no sphagnum involved), regular watering, and bright light. It would probably like summer temperatures, but we're doing what we can. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh" plant.
It's important to set clear expectations and explain consequences from the beginning, so that everyone is on the same page, or plant shelf, as it were. I just appreciate that, as of yet, I don't hear the plants talk back to me. Thanks, Kathryn, for watching and adding your comment.
Hi Rod😌🙌I enjoyed watching, and that makes me think back to my Hoya cumingiana and how unruly it was with very stiff branches taking up space and getting tangled in other plants, but as I say that, another comment made to you recommends cutting back and planting to make it bushy, which is a great idea🥰🙌💞Thanks Robbie!
Yeah, I'm going to chop, prop, and trellis the cumingiana; also move it to a "bright" shelf and see if I can't make something better from it. Thanks, Robbie, for watching and adding your comment.
Thanks Rod - really enjoyed this video, lots of laughs & good information as usual 😂😂 My meh plants would be Philodendron Red Sun, Ficas Loretta (small one) & Hoya NGG. I so love that Hoya, but it’s giving me the runaround 😢 Have a great week 🍸🍸 ☕️☕️👏👏
Thanks. Well you nailed it with your "meh"s; I won't get another Philodendrons, and Ficus is the "F" plant, never again. I'm finding H nicholsoniae NGG wants a bit more light than my other H nicholsoniae, and more moisture, but we're still working on our relationship. Thanks, Heather, for watching and sharing your "meh"s.
Hoya cummingiana could also be trelissed, or maybe would look pretty wound in circles (It looks like the focus is not only on you, but also on your wire trellis plants) My meh Hoyas were ones that looked good and grew well….. I understand why other people love them, I can see their beauty, but they just weren’t my thing. People look funny at me when I tell them which ones 😆 Ok here we go! Hoya AH-041 Hoya callystophylla Hoya crassipetiolata (splash) Hoya cutis porcelana Hoya aff. forbesia Hoya lacunosa Laos Hoya sp Loei province Hoya manipurensis Hoya cv metallica Hoya minutiflora Hoya patricia Hoya ruthiae Hoya silver lady Hoya sunrise Hoya sunshine Hoya vangviengensis (long leaf) There are probably some more 😅 I have sold or otherwise rehomed most of these and I don’t miss the ones that I no longer have at all.. Its not like I don’t like Hoya, most of my plants are Hoyas and for now Im really happy with the rest of them…. (Will have to rehome a bunch more eventually due to lack of space, will do that slowly) Hmm… my plants generally don’t die… so if they are “meh” and just don’t do it for me, they will go to someone else 😊
Yes, I'll be doing some chopping and thinning of the herd in the Spring. It's good that if a plant is no longer interesting for you, that you find another home for it. Thanks for watching and sharing your experiences.
@ I get semi-attached when growing a plant from a one node cutting, so its nice to find a different home for those plants where someone will appreciate them more. Many of those plants were plants I was “influenced to buy” though…. See it a lot, sort of like it, hear often that its a “staple for anyones collection” 😆. Im over getting influenced now… I know what I like and thats what Ill grow… If I don’t have everyones “staple” thats fine with me haha… And don’t need to have all of the Hoyas to be happy…
Hej, great video. Hoya Cumingiana is one of favourites. I cut it to avoid long lanky vines. I love small leaved hoyas, rather than the big leaved ones. Colour is important for me, do not sun stressed leaves either. love varigated hoyas too. Seeds, father unknown, exciting. P.S love all the info for each hoya. My historian heart beats a little faster. Thank you for a great video.
Thanks. I'm going to try a different approach to H cumingiana and see if I can't learn to love it again. My degree is in History, so I love that kind of stuff, too. Thanks for watching and adding your comments.
Love this topic, I’m dying to know who the dad is 😂. Congrats on becoming a grandpa, so cool hoya seeds, I never knew. My meh hoya is the sunrise, I love her but she is a mealy bug magnet and it’s so frustrating to keep,on top of it all the time.I don’t want to give up on her because shes so sun stressed and she’s my OG hoya, so it’s sentimental more than anything. Love my calligraphylla black cat but she’s dormant I think 🤔, no action whatsoever, so she may go on my meh list pretty soon. Your Hoyas are gorgeous 🤩.
Thanks. It seems a lot of people are resonating with the topic and are finally saying the quiet parts out loud. Mealy bugs are devil's spawn and can be so tough to keep on top of. Best of luck. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh" plants.
Agreed ☺️,can you post a. Idea about the pros and cons of Hoyas? With your beautiful collection you are just the person to do it🤗.Have a great weekend!
Wayettii, Waymaniae, Genieve, Kaimuki. Unexciting, slow growing or pest prone. If a plant doesn't die inside, it goes out for the summer and doesn't come in when winter returns. I have become more selective as my collection has grown and I am able to discern a plant's attributes on my screen. Definitely in the cutting back phase now. Thanks for the always enjoyable content.
Yeah, my H 'Kaimuki' is a "fits and starts" plant, but my H wayetii, while slowish, has been steady and has bloomed, so I'm sticking with him. I appreciate the idea of plants that don't come back in after the summer, that has happened here, too. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
That first plant introduction made me laugh so much. Thank you for that. I can't wait to see the seeds grow. My meh plant is the Hoya Krimson Princess (Diva). 😑I think I have had 3 of them, and all have unalive themselves. I got several Hoya plants from Gabriella Plants. Love that shop!
Thanks. If your H carnosa 'Krimson Princess' plants came from a big box, the problem may have been the substrate because they are usually pretty hardy Hoyas. At the big box, they typically come is a coco coir mix, and while that's great for rooting, it's not the best for the long term. If you try again, try a chunky, airy, mix right away. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
I love Gabriella plants. They package so well. And if you buy enough then they are in a big enough box that won’t fit in any mailbox. So it was delivered to my door.
😂 you are so funny. Have you picked your Grandpa name now that your girl is expecting? Also, cool that you are friends with Dave, love his channel too.
I don't know if Dave and I are friends yet, but I watch his channel and he usually watches and adds a comment to mine. I joked once that if we ever do a collaboration it should be called "Wet & Dry". Thanks for watching and adding your comment.
Hi Rod, loved seeing all these gorgeous Hoyas and your AH-014 is so awesome. What a beauty and the size of that plant is astonishing. Great job and then some! At this moment my meh Hoya is my two leaf Rang Sang but only because he was not growing. When I finally pulled him out of his starter pot I found he only had one root.😵💫🤣. I guess that’s on me, I should have checked his roots much earlier. I am re-rooting him now and he may just turn out alright. Take care and thanks for another great video! 👌🪴🥰
Thanks, Peggy. If you get some good roots going on that H 'Rangsan', it'll grow well for you. Fingers crossed for it. Thanks, as always, for watching and sharing your "meh".
I have a 15 year old Hoya Carnosa that I grew from a one node, one leaf cutting. It's huge. And a Dracaena Marginata that has been with me for 23 years now, but it's been in the family for a bit longer. Couple of other old agers, too. But my true love are hoya and orchids :) Meh hoya: I do not get the Lacunosa hype. Just don't understand it. They stink like pee and the flowers are a bit lack luster compared to Carnosa or Caudata type flowers.
Hoya and orchids are favorites here, too. Your thoughts on H lacunosa are interesting since that's not been my experience with them. H caudata blooms are more dramatic, but the H lacunosa just keep on blooming and I really like the sweet scent. But that's what makes Hoyas so much fun, there's something for everyone in the genus. Thanks for watching and sharing your cmooents and your "meh".
Stumbled across you after a Wild Fern vid. You had me with the martini (gin or vodka?), and I had to pause the video to shake one up--gin. My 'meh' Hoya is Krimson Princess -- it's reverting. Shouldn't have done it -- I already have a regular carnosa! Thanks for the vid -- love the maps and the closeup photos you include.
I'm glad you found the channel. Gin in the summertime and vodka in the winter. H carnosa 'Krimson Princess' does that sometimes. If possible, try increasing the amount of light it gets. I find that the more variegation in the leaves, the more light it needs; and if it doesn't/can't get it, it'll put out a solid green vine - H carnosa 'Krimson Princess' in particular. Thanks for watching and adding your comment to the conversation.
Love love love lithophytica. Mine is only about a foot and a half long but has retained all leaves with tight internodal spacing. I assumed when I purchased it with a name like “lithos” she would want to be on the drier side. A good wet/dry cycle. Yes- def a scrambler! Reminds me of our common summer vinca vines! My meh plant- latifolia “snow queen .” Just meh. 😒
It's probably time for major chop on the H lithophytica, and perhaps a move to a brighter location as well. Interesting to hear about the H latifolia 'Snow Queen' since I was looking at on the other day and debating "another latifolia". Think I'll pass now. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh".
Hey Rod. You need to pay more attention to that first baby 😅 she is verrry loose😅😅. My meh plant has to be the comingiana 🤨. It blooms for me but it is just all over the place 🤨 does not look good hanging or on a trellis. Just grows very loose 😅
My Meh hoya is Chicken Farm. It hasn't bloomed, and that might change my mind. I'm excited about your seed action! 😊 I have a globulosa that I enjoy but not crazy about. The Villosa Cao Bang is not what I expected after seeing Miro's a long time ago. I don't like Rigidifolia splash, but it tried to win me over after putting it outside. I should go and check to see if it's dead yet. 😅
Really, Chicken Farm? That one's been a grower and a show-er for me. Tell me about its set-up. I got my Cao Bang after seeing Miro's, too, and yeah, I agree. So nice to know that I'm not the only one to abandon a plant to the winter. Thanks for watching Mona.
@PlantedInRI So my chicken farm was on the floor looking up to the sky, west facing filtered light. It's in PON with drainage. I recently moved it in front of a standing grow lights but I don't think it is impressed. Maybe the original spot in self watering?
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the self-watering, and I think the standing grow light will help too. Mine gets twelve hours of really good light daily and is in self-watering. Do you use a nutrient solution for your plants in pon/SW?
I figure that plants indoors and under grow lights don't know it's winter - that's us projecting - so I just keep up with the regular feeding, especially for those in pon. There are no nutrients in pon, so they get what they need from the nutrient solution. If you dilute the nutrients by half, of course they're going to slow down.
It's very gratifying to have other people say that H cumingiana is one of their "meh"s, too - and there have been several. I'm psyched about te seedds, too. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
Oh I know, geez, that plant just wouldn't die. It lingered and lingered, looking ratty and bedraggled. I think I finally didn't bring it in for the winter. What a disappointment. Cool leaves, but so not worth the effort. Pardon my rant. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh" to the list.
My meh plant is Alocasia Antoro Velvet - I really wanted that dark/nearly black leaf alocasia, but it's sooooo finnicky, the moment you move her even a little bit (i.e. minor light changes, minor humidity changes, god forbit you repot her) she gets sooo mad, either pushes out weird leaves or drops all remaining leaves at once. Now I'm on the mindset that my plant collation is the collection of very strong and sturdy plants, no space for weaklings, if they die - they die haha.
Don't get me started on Alocasia. You've got it, only strong survivors. Which is actually it - out of all the plants in the world, we only grow a small percentage of them in our homes because they are the ones that can take it. Then we further "refine" that list in our own environments. Thanks for watching and sharing your comments, and your "meh".
My meh plant is my multiflora which definitely doesn't like me or where I put it! I also have a hoya silver dollar that I think is taking the winter off that fits that description at the moment. Another is my neon pothos that isn't exciting me anymore and if it died, so what!
H multiflora's issue - for me - was that it doesn't want to dry out, so self-watering was a game changer for it. Even with self-watering I must be careful to make ure the reservoir always has nutrient solution. If it gets dry, the buds go bye-bye. Thanks for watching, Shirley, and adding your "meh".
Cummingiana, yeah, mine looks like a wreath on its hoop. Not a fan. My globulosa is beautiful but the lower leaves look chlorotic no matter what I do. I'm not giving up on it tho. Bella gives me fits.
I first saw H cumingiana as a full, lush plant, and perhaps if mine looked like that I'd love it more. H globulosa may need more light - it can be a long way from the top of the plant to those lower leaves. H bella, what made the difference for mine was self-watering pots. They are thirsty puppies. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh"s.
Well, calling cumingiana my "meh" plant would be a compliment. I've unalived 3 of them. Next one elliptica, and I really wanted it to make it. I should say them. 🙄 The one that did make it was the obavata. Just like a bump on a log, it just sits there. This video made me feel so much better about my capabilities as a plant parent. 😂 Most plant video hosts show off their best. I live in the desert 🏜 in AZ. I'm lucky if I can get my humidity up to 30%. So thank you for showing the other side of your plant spectrum. 😊🍃
Yeah, anybody who tells you their plants are all perfect ain't to be trusted. H elliptica can be a "baby diva" sometimes. I've struggled with mine from time to time. Since your H obovata si doing well, perhaps similar, more succulent, Hoyas might work. I'm thinking of the AH-014, or verticillata (fka acuta), or merrillii, or fungii - Hoyas with thicker leaves. Thank you for watching and sharing your "meh" experiences.
Hoya lacunosa snow caps. No matter what I did, more light, less light, more or less water, it just always had yellowing leaves that fell off. I gave it to my husband, he takes care of our outside plants and same thing, it never did good, so he eventually threw it out.
If it was one of the H lacunosa 'Snow Caps" from a big box store, it was probably the mix. "That" plant company tends to pot them all up in coco coir, which is great for rooting, but not so much for the long term. I got mine out of that stuff and into a coco husk/bark/pumice/sphag mix as soon as I could. It pouted for a bit, but bounced back well. It's also in a large self-watering pot, which really make a diffference. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
Me, too. It grows well enough (I need to get it into self-watering), but it is rather uninteresting, and it seems to need really bright light to get the black margins. I hear you on that one. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh".
I wanted a Linearis forever…. Finally got one from a fantastic nursery and I even got a bloom within the first six months - and then that vine promptly dried up and died and it has been just sitting there ever since - no new growth - nothing. And don’t get me started on my Kaimuki - been in the two leaf club with that one for a year 🙄
It took my H 'Kaimuki' a long time to settle in and get going, and it seems to grow in "batches". I probably need to take a look at that one. My H linearis seems to like more light than I expected and more moisture. I've got mine in a very airy/chunky mix and a slf-watering pot, which it seems to appreciate. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh" plants.
@@PlantedInRI I have mine in a very airy/chunky mix too (Mollys Aroid Mix), and it was in a self-watering pot... however I got yellow leaves and leaf drop so I took away the self-watering aspect..... also took it out of my cabinet to see if the higher humidity (not truly high - just about 38% in the winter, but better than my house here in the northeast) was part of the problem.... but it didn't seem to do anything in ambient room conditions either... so it's back in the cabinet now but still no self-watering. What a diva!
Hoya uncinata. I still can't figure out why I still have this Hoya. On the other hand, I just can't throw a plant in garbage if there's are no pests. I think she is just playing stubborn. I can play that game, too.😅
If putting a plant on the meh list is that it doesn’t bloom, then I’d have to get rid of all my Hoyas except my multiflora would be gone. Lol. I’ll hang in there. I like the leaves. I’m always excited to get a new leaf!
Whether or not the plant has bloomed is usually the deciding factor. The majority of my Hoyas have, and do bloom regularly, so if the plant is just "there", it's not that interesting.
I'm such a newbie that I don't have the first world problems of hoya growing out of control and thus annoying me... please give me those issues! 😉 So, on the other side of the hoya rainbow, I have a Hoya kalimantan that I *had to have for the veining and it has sat there with its two leaves staring at me balefully for months (I have treated for EVERYTHING). I now stick my tongue out at it every day. If you'd like to offload those annoying kids, I'm willing to adopt and will pay for re-homing!🤣
H callistophylla 'Kalimantan' has been a good grower for me. What is its set-up (pot, substrate, etc.)? As Dionne mentions, it could be something with the roots. Once we know a bit more about the set-up, we can offer better suggestions. Good luck. Thanks for watching and adding your comment.
@@PlantedInRI I got it in September '24 - one node, two leaves, in sphag from a very reliable grower. Per grower's instructions, I waited a week or so and then transferred to my substrate: 1/3 cactus mix, 1/3 chunky orchid mix, 1/3 perlite. I have dusted for mites and there are no visible pests. All of its litter mates are fine - no evidence of root mealies or other issues. It is firmly rooted. Before looking under the hood, I'm going to breathe deeply and wait for spring and if it shows no action by then, I will check the roots and consider a different mix. I don't use lights so length of day was not in our favour when he arrived. There's no way to chop and prop as the leaves are right at "soil" level. Sober Plant Guy also struggled with this puppy ... I appreciate everyone's advice!
I can't wait for updates on the manipurensis seeds! My meh plants would be my Monstera Siltepecana and Hoya Fitchii. I was seeing them make their rounds on IG 2019 and got bad fomo of course. It's been a few years growing them and I'm still underwhelmed but couldn't possibly get rid of them just in case they decide to do something cool 😅🤷♀️
I'm with you on H fitchii; I wish it would do something. I think mine's up for a repot, larger self-watering. M siltepecana, too. It was fine and then suddenly not fine. Now it's compost. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh" plants.
The youtube police removed my comment. The one time I get to comment first.... Anyway, congrats on the seeds, I hope to see the babys some day. My meh plant is not a hoya, but a philo-'Red sun'. I tried everything with it and it only gave me 2 leaves in two years and I have no high hopes for the future. I have it out of habit, and whenever I water around it, it gets a drink, too. It has become sort of part of the furniture now.
Hmmm, makes me wonder what you typed... I have no luck with Philodendrons, and only one now, so I understand your frustration. There are just a few genera that don't do well for me, and I'm starting to accept that. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh".
My pachyclada did the same seed thing out of the blue now I have toooo many.......lithophytic might mean put that marie in bonsai substrate might be what it needs not pon just a thought good luck with all the "meh" plants I'd live to try any of the six lol😮
Thanks for the suggestion. Hmmm. My bonsai substrate is essentially a mix of pon and akadama. I think the H lithophytica is actually doing well, I guess I just wish it looked nicer. Thanks for watching and your suggestion.
Seems the common denominator for your “meh” plants is they grow like weeds and haven’t bloomed. I get antsy when a plant gets too long and find myself chopping away either filling the pot up, giving away cuttings or making compost. Maybe a little chop here and there would help. My meh plant would be Thai Con. It just exists and not much else. One or two leaves a year then nothing until next spring.
Yes, I do rather expect my Hoyas to bloom now; though that wasn't always the case. I'll be trying a different approach for the H cumingiana, and a "bright" shelf. I'm with you on the M Thai-Con. I'm on number two, but I have almost no luck with M deliciosa anyway. THanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
I feel the same about my cummingiana. Apparently, they need very bright light to sun in order to grow properly. Their "normal" look is tight inter nodal spacing, and I can't provide that currently 🤷♀️
That's interesting, and makes sense, about the light and internodal spacing. Hmmm. I have a "bright shelf", hmmm. I still need to trellis it. Thanks for watching and adding that idea.
Remember that there's less chlorophyll in variegated leaves than solid green leaves, so less production of food. I find that the more variegation there is, the more light it wants, so I keep those two H lacunosa at different distances from the grow lights. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
My meh plant is the ficus Alii. I wanted it so bad and finally found it at my local nursery. It’s horrible. I have 1/16 of the leaves I started with and am about to trash it. Very annoying.
I think my meh plant is a sever metal. Calathea goeppertia Freddie, calathea coeppertia Louise They are just to big and I’ve lost interest in both of them. Next is a jade satin pothos, green zz, fishtail hoya, Brazil, and last but not least is my birds nest hahnii or the dracena trifasciata and I’ve got three of them. The mom keeps pupping. I hate to throw away a growing plant. Especially one that’s thriving. I’ve got to repot mom as she’s pupped again.asking it really four of them. I need to get rid of mom. None of the babies have pulled. They are over a year old and no pups. All meh!!
Sometimes, over time, one just loses interest. It happens. I, too, hate to part with a growing plant, buts then end up taking care of plants I don't care about. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh"s.
Hoya lithophytica is a true pest magnet. Spider mites love this plant. For me a big MEH. Hoya paradisea need tropical temperatures to feel happy and does not do well in my home. Hoya benchaii, this one grows just extreme slow. Hoya carnosa Wilbur graves. Slow growing and wants to revert to the green form all the time.
Since I got rid of my Alocasias, spider mites, fortunately, haven't been much of a problem. Fingers crossed. Good to know about the H paradisea. H carnosa 'Wilbur Graves' is a carnosa and they're very independently minded. Mine seems heading in the revert direction, but it grows like crazy. Thanks for watching and telling us about your "meh" plants.
I don't have a "meh plant" in my care. To be honest I have not met a plant I didn't like, but I could say that "meh plants" are the plants that I have yet to bring home, like draceanas... I think this because these are the plants that I associate with offices and with work and they are not known for their flowers. I like all my plants that I currently have (Hoya, Orchids, epiphyllum, desert cacti African violets), but some are on the struggle bus. But just because they are on the struggle bus does not mean that they are necessarily "meh". It is more to do with certain conditions in my environment not being optimal. A change in the weather could be the right fix. It has been extremely dry where I am (So Cal). The hygrometer has been registering in the 20 something percentile even with a humidifier running near it. This is not good for a bunch of plants that originated from rainforests (not including the desert cacti which are outside anyway).
None of my "meh" plants started out that way, they just didn't turn out to be as interesting as I first thought; and just being on the struggle bus doesn't make it a "meh" plant. Sometimes the struggle for the plant adds to the interest. Thanks for watching and adding your comments.
Yeah, I understand those, clearly H cumingiana. It took me so long to get H sigillatis going that I'm happy with whatever it does; and fortunately it grows like a beast for me. Thanks, Doreen, for watching and sharing your "meh" plants.
My Rosita is thriving - gorgeous sun-stressing and many new leaves, even in winter in the northeast. I keep mine under a Soltech high watt pendant lamp and it loves its life. Prior to moving to this spot - it didn’t do a whole lot. Might want to give it more light and see if that helps 🤷🏼♀️
@@CatDD66 Mine is currently 45 inches from a Soltech high pendant and maybe 18 inches off center, that is coveted space. Lots thriving plants in that corner of the living room. Thank you for your recommendation.✌
I think as Cat suggested. My H 'Rosita' was very right under a growlight on a "bright" shelf; and food, regular feeding with a nutrient dense food seems to help as well. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh".
definately cumingiana; hanhaie; rebecca; mathilde; and all erythastemas. No flowers after two years; not remarkable leaves.....so sold to the highest bidder.
I was about to give up on H 'Mathilde', but then it bloomed. I think more light was what made the difference, but it took a while to get there. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh" plants.
Tell us about your set-up (pot, substrate, etc.), 'cause for me H lacunosa grows and blooms like crazy, so we need to tweak someting. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
@@PlantedInRI They are in a bright, large window. South west. I use a mix similar to Dave-the Sober Plant Guy but with a little cactus soil added. I only water every 2-3 weeks in the winter-when the soil feels dry. All my other hoyas are fine. I do not know what they want. I fertilize at half strength in the winter.
If I remember, you're in the Northern Hemisphere, yes? You didn't mention the container, which is a part of the equation. I'm going to assume plastic containers with drainage holes; the container doesn't have to be plastic, but must have drainage holes. I think the combination of a southwest window and watering every 2-3 weeks is the problem - they just are drying out. The roots dry out and die, and when you water, the dead roots cannot absob the water and begin to rot, which can spread to the plant. Most of my Hoyas are in self-watering pots and I need to fill the reservoirs every week; even those plants that aren't in self-watering, but are in a mix like Dave's, get watered every week, even during the winter. Despite all the "info" on the internet, Hoyas are not Succulents and you shouldn't treat them like cacti. Hoyas do not want to "dry out". They are, for the most part, understory, epiphytic plants that live in "the wet tropical biome", not a desert. Dave's mix should be fine, but don't add the cactus soil, it really doesn't serve a purpose (and will end up settling to the bottom). Your Hoya mix should be chunky, but also airy. Pull the plants back from the southwest window and use a mix made of things like coco husk chunks, bark, long fiber sphagnum, and tree fern fiber (no soil), and through-water them weekly, or better yet, use self-watering pots. If you're comfortable with pon, you can try pon in self-watering pots, too. I think your H lacunosas were getting too much sun and not enough moisture. Good luck.
@@PlantedInRI You are right! I live near Buffalo NY. They are in plastic pts with drainage holes. I will try self watering pots and will change my potting mix. South west window in the living room and in the winter I water every two weeks. They might be staying wet too long but one of my lacunosas is a beast! Same treatment on that one too! They make me crazy-no other species is acting this way! I will try all your suggestions to try to turn a few of the remaining plants around. I love your videos for the info and entertainment. I was laughing so hard at your comments on your naughty hoya that has seeds! Too funny! T hank you for everything!
If it is one of the H sp aff burtoniae from "that" plant company from a big box, you might try moving it to a different mix. I find that their basic mix isn't airy enough for long term growth - it's basically plain coco coir. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh".
LOL, I'd almost be happy with the "hedge" look. Still for what I get from it it takes up too much horizontal space, so the trellis thing is going to happen. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
Yea, my H. Tsangii is different. It looks like the Burtoniae. My H. Villosa was a struggle from the beginning and just croaked. 🥲. Trial and error. I love your expression on the huge mealybug. Lol🙋🏼♀️🪴
A lot of H sp aff burtoniae were sold as H tsangii, and sometimes there were a couple of other names on the tag as well. I've found that H globulosa (fka villosa) wants a lot more moisture and more light than I first espected. As you said, trial and error. I just wish I had fewer errors. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh".
So, I have a cumingigiana also. You might wanna consider cutting it back and adding the cutting to the pot, so it has a more full/structura look. No one has any time for her daddy long legs.
My Hoya sunrise are my meh plants. They never Sun stress no matter what I do and are so blah. But they are so healthy and bloom- so we are stuck with each other lol.
My sunrise needs very strong light to sun stress but no blooms yet.
@@shirleycovey7309 Me too! 🏜
Thanks for the suggestion. I did try that some time ago, but I had a very low success rate with the cuttings, which was frustrating. But I'm going to try it again, and give it a trellis and put it on a "bright" shelf. Thanks for watching, adding your suggestion, and sharing your "meh" plants.
Omg that ah-014 is huge. What a stunning plant.
AH014 - love it! My meh plant was the meredithii. No more! I'm a 3xs and your out type person. Same with guineau ghost, krimson princess and queen, and eriostemma or guppyii. I'll just admire them from afar! 😮 Thanks for sharing! Dee, NY
I hear you about "three strikes and you're out". Fortunately I'm on H meredithii number two, and it's doing ok. ...and there are several plants I have learned to admire from afar. Thanks for watching, Dee, and sharing your "meh"s.
My meh would be hoya sunrise. It was doing beautifully but all of a sudden it started dropping leaves, again. I picked it up and threw it in the trash. I made sure the others saw and understood what needed to be done.
Oh, that's funny!!!! Hope they all took the hint! I've had my sunrise for almost a year and so far, knock on wood!
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@@dianebennett4440 My sunrise is one of my most gorgeous and dependable Hoya. Beautiful red sunstressing (from a grow light of course haha) and grows like a weed. Isn’t it funny how different Hoya do better or worse for different folks - all part of this fun hobby! Keeps us on our toes for sure.
Absolutely. It's good to set clear expectations from the beginning. The plants that saw that will remember and tell any new plants about it, too. Smart move. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
My sunrise also gave me grief and I had to chop her and reroot. I'm so glad she's living her best life! This is not one of my easier Hoyas.
Ha ha ha! Thank you for the lol! Hope you find out who the dad is. I am growing Hoya from seed and really enjoying watching the process. My Meh Hoya is my Hoya Caudata Sumatra. I had moved it out of the cold window and it didn't appreciate it! With the soil out of the sunlight, the roots rotted. I chopped her up and am hoping she'll root in January.
I get that about H caudata 'Sumatra'. I've got one in self-watering, and another that's soon to be moved to S/W, and they seem to appreciate that set-up. Fingers crossed for your cuttings. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
Wow that’s going to be so exciting to see what those seeds grow up to be. How sleazy is she! Better keep an eye on her! 😂 my meh plant is my wayetti it’s ok-flowers- but it’s just here. Not one I go to all the time
I understand about H wayetii, but the "just there" plants are a good contrast for the splashy, drama plants. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
I love how you refer to your plants personalities. This is a fun episode and was so fun to watch last night after a long work week. I recently purchased a Hoya Irina. I hope she does well. My meh Hoya right now is my Curtisii, it really hasn’t grown and have a lot of die back.
Thanks. H curtisii can be problematic. Mine likes a super airy mix (no soil and almost no sphagnum involved), regular watering, and bright light. It would probably like summer temperatures, but we're doing what we can. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh" plant.
I love how you talk to your “children “ , giving them instruction, warnings, praise and admonition. 😂
It's important to set clear expectations and explain consequences from the beginning, so that everyone is on the same page, or plant shelf, as it were. I just appreciate that, as of yet, I don't hear the plants talk back to me. Thanks, Kathryn, for watching and adding your comment.
Hi Rod😌🙌I enjoyed watching, and that makes me think back to my Hoya cumingiana and how unruly it was with very stiff branches taking up space and getting tangled in other plants, but as I say that, another comment made to you recommends cutting back and planting to make it bushy, which is a great idea🥰🙌💞Thanks Robbie!
Yeah, I'm going to chop, prop, and trellis the cumingiana; also move it to a "bright" shelf and see if I can't make something better from it. Thanks, Robbie, for watching and adding your comment.
Thanks Rod - really enjoyed this video, lots of laughs & good information as usual 😂😂 My meh plants would be Philodendron Red Sun, Ficas Loretta (small one) & Hoya NGG. I so love that Hoya, but it’s giving me the runaround 😢 Have a great week 🍸🍸 ☕️☕️👏👏
Thanks. Well you nailed it with your "meh"s; I won't get another Philodendrons, and Ficus is the "F" plant, never again. I'm finding H nicholsoniae NGG wants a bit more light than my other H nicholsoniae, and more moisture, but we're still working on our relationship. Thanks, Heather, for watching and sharing your "meh"s.
Hoya cummingiana could also be trelissed, or maybe would look pretty wound in circles
(It looks like the focus is not only on you, but also on your wire trellis plants)
My meh Hoyas were ones that looked good and grew well…..
I understand why other people love them, I can see their beauty, but they just weren’t my thing.
People look funny at me when I tell them which ones 😆
Ok here we go!
Hoya AH-041
Hoya callystophylla
Hoya crassipetiolata (splash)
Hoya cutis porcelana
Hoya aff. forbesia
Hoya lacunosa Laos
Hoya sp Loei province
Hoya manipurensis
Hoya cv metallica
Hoya minutiflora
Hoya patricia
Hoya ruthiae
Hoya silver lady
Hoya sunrise
Hoya sunshine
Hoya vangviengensis (long leaf)
There are probably some more 😅
I have sold or otherwise rehomed most of these and I don’t miss the ones that I no longer have at all..
Its not like I don’t like Hoya, most of my plants are Hoyas and for now Im really happy with the rest of them…. (Will have to rehome a bunch more eventually due to lack of space, will do that slowly)
Hmm… my plants generally don’t die… so if they are “meh” and just don’t do it for me, they will go to someone else 😊
Yes, I'll be doing some chopping and thinning of the herd in the Spring. It's good that if a plant is no longer interesting for you, that you find another home for it. Thanks for watching and sharing your experiences.
@ I get semi-attached when growing a plant from a one node cutting, so its nice to find a different home for those plants where someone will appreciate them more.
Many of those plants were plants I was “influenced to buy” though…. See it a lot, sort of like it, hear often that its a “staple for anyones collection” 😆. Im over getting influenced now… I know what I like and thats what Ill grow… If I don’t have everyones “staple” thats fine with me haha… And don’t need to have all of the Hoyas to be happy…
I love my globulosa. It’s small but it’s growing sort of compact at this point.
Hej, great video. Hoya Cumingiana is one of favourites. I cut it to avoid long lanky vines. I love small leaved hoyas, rather than the big leaved ones. Colour is important for me, do not sun stressed leaves either. love varigated hoyas too.
Seeds, father unknown, exciting. P.S love all the info for each hoya. My historian heart beats a little faster.
Thank you for a great video.
Thanks. I'm going to try a different approach to H cumingiana and see if I can't learn to love it again. My degree is in History, so I love that kind of stuff, too. Thanks for watching and adding your comments.
@@PlantedInRII cut off the ends and put th em in water. They rooted up pretty easy.
@@lisaanglim9588
I just poke the ends in mix and water. they seem to like it.
Love this topic, I’m dying to know who the dad is 😂. Congrats on becoming a grandpa, so cool hoya seeds, I never knew. My meh hoya is the sunrise, I love her but she is a mealy bug magnet and it’s so frustrating to keep,on top of it all the time.I don’t want to give up on her because shes so sun stressed and she’s my OG hoya, so it’s sentimental more than anything. Love my calligraphylla black cat but she’s dormant I think 🤔, no action whatsoever, so she may go on my meh list pretty soon. Your Hoyas are gorgeous 🤩.
Thanks. It seems a lot of people are resonating with the topic and are finally saying the quiet parts out loud. Mealy bugs are devil's spawn and can be so tough to keep on top of. Best of luck. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh" plants.
Agreed ☺️,can you post a. Idea about the pros and cons of Hoyas? With your beautiful collection you are just the person to do it🤗.Have a great weekend!
Wayettii, Waymaniae, Genieve, Kaimuki. Unexciting, slow growing or pest prone. If a plant doesn't die inside, it goes out for the summer and doesn't come in when winter returns. I have become more selective as my collection has grown and I am able to discern a plant's attributes on my screen. Definitely in the cutting back phase now. Thanks for the always enjoyable content.
Yeah, my H 'Kaimuki' is a "fits and starts" plant, but my H wayetii, while slowish, has been steady and has bloomed, so I'm sticking with him. I appreciate the idea of plants that don't come back in after the summer, that has happened here, too. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
That’s kind of like putting your ancestors on an ice flow and push them out to see.
That first plant introduction made me laugh so much. Thank you for that. I can't wait to see the seeds grow. My meh plant is the Hoya Krimson Princess (Diva). 😑I think I have had 3 of them, and all have unalive themselves. I got several Hoya plants from Gabriella Plants. Love that shop!
Thanks. If your H carnosa 'Krimson Princess' plants came from a big box, the problem may have been the substrate because they are usually pretty hardy Hoyas. At the big box, they typically come is a coco coir mix, and while that's great for rooting, it's not the best for the long term. If you try again, try a chunky, airy, mix right away. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
I love Gabriella plants. They package so well. And if you buy enough then they are in a big enough box that won’t fit in any mailbox. So it was delivered to my door.
@ The Krimson Princess didn't last but like 2 months. I plan on going semi-hydroponics using Leca for all my plants.
@ They are packaged well.
Mostly lacunosa/krohnianas for me. Except the Amarillo. Nice shout to Dave btw! Love that dude
I'm with you on the H lacunosa 'Amarillo'. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh" plant.
My meh…aloe Vera! I’ll say it again, you crack me up! Seeds, awesome!
Thanks. Oh, yeah, I'd forgotten about Aloe Vera. Definitely "meh", and that might be generous. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
😂 you are so funny. Have you picked your Grandpa name now that your girl is expecting?
Also, cool that you are friends with Dave, love his channel too.
I don't know if Dave and I are friends yet, but I watch his channel and he usually watches and adds a comment to mine. I joked once that if we ever do a collaboration it should be called "Wet & Dry". Thanks for watching and adding your comment.
Hi Rod, loved seeing all these gorgeous Hoyas and your AH-014 is so awesome. What a beauty and the size of that plant is astonishing. Great job and then some! At this moment my meh Hoya is my two leaf Rang Sang but only because he was not growing. When I finally pulled him out of his starter pot I found he only had one root.😵💫🤣. I guess that’s on me, I should have checked his roots much earlier. I am re-rooting him now and he may just turn out alright. Take care and thanks for another great video! 👌🪴🥰
Thanks, Peggy. If you get some good roots going on that H 'Rangsan', it'll grow well for you. Fingers crossed for it. Thanks, as always, for watching and sharing your "meh".
@@PlantedInRI Thank you for your encouragement on my rang sang, Rod! Keeping hope alive on my end! 🤣
I have a 15 year old Hoya Carnosa that I grew from a one node, one leaf cutting. It's huge. And a Dracaena Marginata that has been with me for 23 years now, but it's been in the family for a bit longer. Couple of other old agers, too. But my true love are hoya and orchids :)
Meh hoya: I do not get the Lacunosa hype. Just don't understand it. They stink like pee and the flowers are a bit lack luster compared to Carnosa or Caudata type flowers.
Hoya and orchids are favorites here, too. Your thoughts on H lacunosa are interesting since that's not been my experience with them. H caudata blooms are more dramatic, but the H lacunosa just keep on blooming and I really like the sweet scent. But that's what makes Hoyas so much fun, there's something for everyone in the genus. Thanks for watching and sharing your cmooents and your "meh".
Stumbled across you after a Wild Fern vid. You had me with the martini (gin or vodka?), and I had to pause the video to shake one up--gin. My 'meh' Hoya is Krimson Princess -- it's reverting. Shouldn't have done it -- I already have a regular carnosa! Thanks for the vid -- love the maps and the closeup photos you include.
I'm glad you found the channel. Gin in the summertime and vodka in the winter. H carnosa 'Krimson Princess' does that sometimes. If possible, try increasing the amount of light it gets. I find that the more variegation in the leaves, the more light it needs; and if it doesn't/can't get it, it'll put out a solid green vine - H carnosa 'Krimson Princess' in particular. Thanks for watching and adding your comment to the conversation.
When are we going to get mugs that say, "Hoya gonna do what hoya gonna do." 🤔
Mel, if you make the mug, I will buy it! 😂
I'm working on it. I'll keep you posted.
@@PlantedInRI Yay!
How cool you have seeds!! incredible!!
I was surprised as all get out. Fingers crossed.
Love love love lithophytica. Mine is only about a foot and a half long but has retained all leaves with tight internodal spacing. I assumed when I purchased it with a name like “lithos” she would want to be on the drier side. A good wet/dry cycle. Yes- def a scrambler! Reminds me of our common summer vinca vines! My meh plant- latifolia “snow queen .” Just meh. 😒
It's probably time for major chop on the H lithophytica, and perhaps a move to a brighter location as well. Interesting to hear about the H latifolia 'Snow Queen' since I was looking at on the other day and debating "another latifolia". Think I'll pass now. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh".
Hey Rod. You need to pay more attention to that first baby 😅 she is verrry loose😅😅. My meh plant has to be the comingiana 🤨. It blooms for me but it is just all over the place 🤨 does not look good hanging or on a trellis. Just grows very loose 😅
It's so good to learn I'm not the only one ambivalent about H cumingiana. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh".
My Meh hoya is Chicken Farm. It hasn't bloomed, and that might change my mind. I'm excited about your seed action!
😊 I have a globulosa that I enjoy but not crazy about. The Villosa Cao Bang is not what I expected after seeing Miro's a long time ago. I don't like Rigidifolia splash, but it tried to win me over after putting it outside. I should go and check to see if it's dead yet. 😅
Really, Chicken Farm? That one's been a grower and a show-er for me. Tell me about its set-up. I got my Cao Bang after seeing Miro's, too, and yeah, I agree. So nice to know that I'm not the only one to abandon a plant to the winter. Thanks for watching Mona.
@PlantedInRI So my chicken farm was on the floor looking up to the sky, west facing filtered light. It's in PON with drainage. I recently moved it in front of a standing grow lights but I don't think it is impressed. Maybe the original spot in self watering?
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the self-watering, and I think the standing grow light will help too. Mine gets twelve hours of really good light daily and is in self-watering. Do you use a nutrient solution for your plants in pon/SW?
@PlantedInRI Yes, I do, but not with every watering. I'm trying to use it more, weak solution until spring.
I figure that plants indoors and under grow lights don't know it's winter - that's us projecting - so I just keep up with the regular feeding, especially for those in pon. There are no nutrients in pon, so they get what they need from the nutrient solution. If you dilute the nutrients by half, of course they're going to slow down.
Hi! My meh plant is wayettii!
That one has cropped up a few times in the comments, so you're not alone in that. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
I'm with you on the cumingiana. Meh. I have mine growing on a hoop, but I don't love it. I can't wait to see what your seeds do!
Mine is on a hoop. Silly thing just looks like a wreath that should be on my front door. Not impressed.
It's very gratifying to have other people say that H cumingiana is one of their "meh"s, too - and there have been several. I'm psyched about te seedds, too. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
My MEH at the moment is my Scindapsus Treubii Moonlight. I keep hoping she gives up, but no such luck!!!!
Oh I know, geez, that plant just wouldn't die. It lingered and lingered, looking ratty and bedraggled. I think I finally didn't bring it in for the winter. What a disappointment. Cool leaves, but so not worth the effort. Pardon my rant. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh" to the list.
My meh plant is Alocasia Antoro Velvet - I really wanted that dark/nearly black leaf alocasia, but it's sooooo finnicky, the moment you move her even a little bit (i.e. minor light changes, minor humidity changes, god forbit you repot her) she gets sooo mad, either pushes out weird leaves or drops all remaining leaves at once. Now I'm on the mindset that my plant collation is the collection of very strong and sturdy plants, no space for weaklings, if they die - they die haha.
Don't get me started on Alocasia. You've got it, only strong survivors. Which is actually it - out of all the plants in the world, we only grow a small percentage of them in our homes because they are the ones that can take it. Then we further "refine" that list in our own environments. Thanks for watching and sharing your comments, and your "meh".
My meh plant is my multiflora which definitely doesn't like me or where I put it! I also have a hoya silver dollar that I think is taking the winter off that fits that description at the moment. Another is my neon pothos that isn't exciting me anymore and if it died, so what!
H multiflora's issue - for me - was that it doesn't want to dry out, so self-watering was a game changer for it. Even with self-watering I must be careful to make ure the reservoir always has nutrient solution. If it gets dry, the buds go bye-bye. Thanks for watching, Shirley, and adding your "meh".
Cummingiana, yeah, mine looks like a wreath on its hoop. Not a fan. My globulosa is beautiful but the lower leaves look chlorotic no matter what I do. I'm not giving up on it tho. Bella gives me fits.
I first saw H cumingiana as a full, lush plant, and perhaps if mine looked like that I'd love it more. H globulosa may need more light - it can be a long way from the top of the plant to those lower leaves. H bella, what made the difference for mine was self-watering pots. They are thirsty puppies. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh"s.
Well, calling cumingiana my "meh" plant would be a compliment. I've unalived 3 of them. Next one elliptica, and I really wanted it to make it. I should say them. 🙄 The one that did make it was the obavata. Just like a bump on a log, it just sits there. This video made me feel so much better about my capabilities as a plant parent. 😂 Most plant video hosts show off their best. I live in the desert 🏜 in AZ. I'm lucky if I can get my humidity up to 30%. So thank you for showing the other side of your plant spectrum. 😊🍃
I live in dry climate, too, so I'll probably never get a hoya to bloom!
@@shirleycovey7309 I'm not giving up. 😉😁
Yeah, anybody who tells you their plants are all perfect ain't to be trusted. H elliptica can be a "baby diva" sometimes. I've struggled with mine from time to time. Since your H obovata si doing well, perhaps similar, more succulent, Hoyas might work. I'm thinking of the AH-014, or verticillata (fka acuta), or merrillii, or fungii - Hoyas with thicker leaves. Thank you for watching and sharing your "meh" experiences.
I've learned with Hoyas to never say never until it's brown and crispy.
Hang in there, my Obavata took a year and now bammmm she sprinting right along.
Hoya lacunosa snow caps. No matter what I did, more light, less light, more or less water, it just always had yellowing leaves that fell off. I gave it to my husband, he takes care of our outside plants and same thing, it never did good, so he eventually threw it out.
If it was one of the H lacunosa 'Snow Caps" from a big box store, it was probably the mix. "That" plant company tends to pot them all up in coco coir, which is great for rooting, but not so much for the long term. I got mine out of that stuff and into a coco husk/bark/pumice/sphag mix as soon as I could. It pouted for a bit, but bounced back well. It's also in a large self-watering pot, which really make a diffference. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
My only meh hoya is the black margin. But I still love it, it's just the one I pay attention to the least.
I have that one too! It is definitely a meh plant for me now!
I had on my wish list a black margin! Too bad yours is a meh now.
Me, too. It grows well enough (I need to get it into self-watering), but it is rather uninteresting, and it seems to need really bright light to get the black margins. I hear you on that one. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh".
I wanted a Linearis forever…. Finally got one from a fantastic nursery and I even got a bloom within the first six months - and then that vine promptly dried up and died and it has been just sitting there ever since - no new growth - nothing. And don’t get me started on my Kaimuki - been in the two leaf club with that one for a year 🙄
It took my H 'Kaimuki' a long time to settle in and get going, and it seems to grow in "batches". I probably need to take a look at that one. My H linearis seems to like more light than I expected and more moisture. I've got mine in a very airy/chunky mix and a slf-watering pot, which it seems to appreciate. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh" plants.
@@PlantedInRI I have mine in a very airy/chunky mix too (Mollys Aroid Mix), and it was in a self-watering pot... however I got yellow leaves and leaf drop so I took away the self-watering aspect..... also took it out of my cabinet to see if the higher humidity (not truly high - just about 38% in the winter, but better than my house here in the northeast) was part of the problem.... but it didn't seem to do anything in ambient room conditions either... so it's back in the cabinet now but still no self-watering. What a diva!
Hoya uncinata. I still can't figure out why I still have this Hoya. On the other hand, I just can't throw a plant in garbage if there's are no pests. I think she is just playing stubborn. I can play that game, too.😅
I think you nailed it, "meh" is when you can't figure out why you still have the plant. Thanks for watching and adding your comment.
If putting a plant on the meh list is that it doesn’t bloom, then I’d have to get rid of all my Hoyas except my multiflora would be gone. Lol. I’ll hang in there. I like the leaves. I’m always excited to get a new leaf!
Whether or not the plant has bloomed is usually the deciding factor. The majority of my Hoyas have, and do bloom regularly, so if the plant is just "there", it's not that interesting.
@ I’ve only had my multiflora bloom. It makes up for a lot of the rest of them. I buy lots for the foliage. And hope for blooms.
@ you are lucky or talented.
I'm such a newbie that I don't have the first world problems of hoya growing out of control and thus annoying me... please give me those issues! 😉 So, on the other side of the hoya rainbow, I have a Hoya kalimantan that I *had to have for the veining and it has sat there with its two leaves staring at me balefully for months (I have treated for EVERYTHING). I now stick my tongue out at it every day. If you'd like to offload those annoying kids, I'm willing to adopt and will pay for re-homing!🤣
Check the roots.
H callistophylla 'Kalimantan' has been a good grower for me. What is its set-up (pot, substrate, etc.)? As Dionne mentions, it could be something with the roots. Once we know a bit more about the set-up, we can offer better suggestions. Good luck. Thanks for watching and adding your comment.
@@PlantedInRI I got it in September '24 - one node, two leaves, in sphag from a very reliable grower. Per grower's instructions, I waited a week or so and then transferred to my substrate: 1/3 cactus mix, 1/3 chunky orchid mix, 1/3 perlite. I have dusted for mites and there are no visible pests. All of its litter mates are fine - no evidence of root mealies or other issues. It is firmly rooted. Before looking under the hood, I'm going to breathe deeply and wait for spring and if it shows no action by then, I will check the roots and consider a different mix. I don't use lights so length of day was not in our favour when he arrived. There's no way to chop and prop as the leaves are right at "soil" level. Sober Plant Guy also struggled with this puppy ... I appreciate everyone's advice!
I can't wait for updates on the manipurensis seeds! My meh plants would be my Monstera Siltepecana and Hoya Fitchii. I was seeing them make their rounds on IG 2019 and got bad fomo of course. It's been a few years growing them and I'm still underwhelmed but couldn't possibly get rid of them just in case they decide to do something cool 😅🤷♀️
I'm with you on H fitchii; I wish it would do something. I think mine's up for a repot, larger self-watering. M siltepecana, too. It was fine and then suddenly not fine. Now it's compost. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh" plants.
It’s got beautiful leaves. Mine are long and pointed. It was listed as a globulosa/lobulosa not sure the difference.
Hoya villosa has been synonimized into Hoya globulosa.
@ interesting. Good to know.
The youtube police removed my comment. The one time I get to comment first.... Anyway, congrats on the seeds, I hope to see the babys some day. My meh plant is not a hoya, but a philo-'Red sun'. I tried everything with it and it only gave me 2 leaves in two years and I have no high hopes for the future. I have it out of habit, and whenever I water around it, it gets a drink, too. It has become sort of part of the furniture now.
Hmmm, makes me wonder what you typed... I have no luck with Philodendrons, and only one now, so I understand your frustration. There are just a few genera that don't do well for me, and I'm starting to accept that. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh".
My pachyclada did the same seed thing out of the blue now I have toooo many.......lithophytic might mean put that marie in bonsai substrate might be what it needs not pon just a thought good luck with all the "meh" plants I'd live to try any of the six lol😮
Thanks for the suggestion. Hmmm. My bonsai substrate is essentially a mix of pon and akadama. I think the H lithophytica is actually doing well, I guess I just wish it looked nicer. Thanks for watching and your suggestion.
Seems the common denominator for your “meh” plants is they grow like weeds and haven’t bloomed. I get antsy when a plant gets too long and find myself chopping away either filling the pot up, giving away cuttings or making compost. Maybe a little chop here and there would help. My meh plant would be Thai Con. It just exists and not much else. One or two leaves a year then nothing until next spring.
Yes, I do rather expect my Hoyas to bloom now; though that wasn't always the case. I'll be trying a different approach for the H cumingiana, and a "bright" shelf. I'm with you on the M Thai-Con. I'm on number two, but I have almost no luck with M deliciosa anyway. THanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
I feel the same about my cummingiana. Apparently, they need very bright light to sun in order to grow properly. Their "normal" look is tight inter nodal spacing, and I can't provide that currently 🤷♀️
That's interesting, and makes sense, about the light and internodal spacing. Hmmm. I have a "bright shelf", hmmm. I still need to trellis it. Thanks for watching and adding that idea.
Hoya lacunosa inner variegated, 1 mealy bug and it packed a sad, it's so much slower than the green one.
Remember that there's less chlorophyll in variegated leaves than solid green leaves, so less production of food. I find that the more variegation there is, the more light it wants, so I keep those two H lacunosa at different distances from the grow lights. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
My meh plant is the ficus Alii. I wanted it so bad and finally found it at my local nursery. It’s horrible. I have 1/16 of the leaves I started with and am about to trash it. Very annoying.
I refer to all Ficus as the "F Plant", and they're on my "never" list. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh".
Probably my Curtisii. I'm ready to throw it in the trash. LOL
Yes, H curtisii has been the "meh" plant for several people. Thanks for watching and adding your comment.
I think my meh plant is a sever metal. Calathea goeppertia Freddie, calathea coeppertia Louise They are just to big and I’ve lost interest in both of them. Next is a jade satin pothos, green zz, fishtail hoya, Brazil, and last but not least is my birds nest hahnii or the dracena trifasciata and I’ve got three of them. The mom keeps pupping. I hate to throw away a growing plant. Especially one that’s thriving. I’ve got to repot mom as she’s pupped again.asking it really four of them. I need to get rid of mom. None of the babies have pulled. They are over a year old and no pups. All meh!!
Sometimes, over time, one just loses interest. It happens. I, too, hate to part with a growing plant, buts then end up taking care of plants I don't care about. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh"s.
Hoya lithophytica is a true pest magnet. Spider mites love this plant.
For me a big MEH.
Hoya paradisea need tropical temperatures to feel happy and does not do well in my home.
Hoya benchaii, this one grows just extreme slow.
Hoya carnosa Wilbur graves. Slow growing and wants to revert to the green form all the time.
Since I got rid of my Alocasias, spider mites, fortunately, haven't been much of a problem. Fingers crossed. Good to know about the H paradisea. H carnosa 'Wilbur Graves' is a carnosa and they're very independently minded. Mine seems heading in the revert direction, but it grows like crazy. Thanks for watching and telling us about your "meh" plants.
I don't have a "meh plant" in my care. To be honest I have not met a plant I didn't like, but I could say that "meh plants" are the plants that I have yet to bring home, like draceanas... I think this because these are the plants that I associate with offices and with work and they are not known for their flowers. I like all my plants that I currently have (Hoya, Orchids, epiphyllum, desert cacti African violets), but some are on the struggle bus. But just because they are on the struggle bus does not mean that they are necessarily "meh". It is more to do with certain conditions in my environment not being optimal. A change in the weather could be the right fix. It has been extremely dry where I am (So Cal). The hygrometer has been registering in the 20 something percentile even with a humidifier running near it. This is not good for a bunch of plants that originated from rainforests (not including the desert cacti which are outside anyway).
None of my "meh" plants started out that way, they just didn't turn out to be as interesting as I first thought; and just being on the struggle bus doesn't make it a "meh" plant. Sometimes the struggle for the plant adds to the interest. Thanks for watching and adding your comments.
Cumingiana , wayetti sigillatis, mehhhh
Yeah, I understand those, clearly H cumingiana. It took me so long to get H sigillatis going that I'm happy with whatever it does; and fortunately it grows like a beast for me. Thanks, Doreen, for watching and sharing your "meh" plants.
Any Hoya that doesn’t do well for me becomes meh 😂
Well, yes, but sometimes you can turn a "meh" around. Thanks for watching and adding your comment.
Like Dr Frankenstein willing them to LIVE 😂
My Hoya Rosita is "surviving", I can't seem to find it's sweet spot.
My Rosita is thriving - gorgeous sun-stressing and many new leaves, even in winter in the northeast. I keep mine under a Soltech high watt pendant lamp and it loves its life. Prior to moving to this spot - it didn’t do a whole lot. Might want to give it more light and see if that helps 🤷🏼♀️
@@CatDD66 Mine is currently 45 inches from a Soltech high pendant and maybe 18 inches off center, that is coveted space. Lots thriving plants in that corner of the living room. Thank you for your recommendation.✌
I think as Cat suggested. My H 'Rosita' was very right under a growlight on a "bright" shelf; and food, regular feeding with a nutrient dense food seems to help as well. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh".
definately cumingiana; hanhaie; rebecca; mathilde; and all erythastemas. No flowers after two years; not remarkable leaves.....so sold to the highest bidder.
I was about to give up on H 'Mathilde', but then it bloomed. I think more light was what made the difference, but it took a while to get there. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh" plants.
Anything lacanosa! I can not figure these guys out! They all die!
Tell us about your set-up (pot, substrate, etc.), 'cause for me H lacunosa grows and blooms like crazy, so we need to tweak someting. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
@@PlantedInRI They are in a bright, large window. South west. I use a mix similar to Dave-the Sober Plant Guy but with a little cactus soil added. I only water every 2-3 weeks in the winter-when the soil feels dry. All my other hoyas are fine. I do not know what they want. I fertilize at half strength in the winter.
If I remember, you're in the Northern Hemisphere, yes? You didn't mention the container, which is a part of the equation. I'm going to assume plastic containers with drainage holes; the container doesn't have to be plastic, but must have drainage holes. I think the combination of a southwest window and watering every 2-3 weeks is the problem - they just are drying out. The roots dry out and die, and when you water, the dead roots cannot absob the water and begin to rot, which can spread to the plant. Most of my Hoyas are in self-watering pots and I need to fill the reservoirs every week; even those plants that aren't in self-watering, but are in a mix like Dave's, get watered every week, even during the winter. Despite all the "info" on the internet, Hoyas are not Succulents and you shouldn't treat them like cacti. Hoyas do not want to "dry out". They are, for the most part, understory, epiphytic plants that live in "the wet tropical biome", not a desert. Dave's mix should be fine, but don't add the cactus soil, it really doesn't serve a purpose (and will end up settling to the bottom). Your Hoya mix should be chunky, but also airy. Pull the plants back from the southwest window and use a mix made of things like coco husk chunks, bark, long fiber sphagnum, and tree fern fiber (no soil), and through-water them weekly, or better yet, use self-watering pots. If you're comfortable with pon, you can try pon in self-watering pots, too. I think your H lacunosas were getting too much sun and not enough moisture. Good luck.
@@PlantedInRI You are right! I live near Buffalo NY. They are in plastic pts with drainage holes. I will try self watering pots and will change my potting mix. South west window in the living room and in the winter I water every two weeks. They might be staying wet too long but one of my lacunosas is a beast! Same treatment on that one too! They make me crazy-no other species is acting this way! I will try all your suggestions to try to turn a few of the remaining plants around. I love your videos for the info and entertainment. I was laughing so hard at your comments on your naughty hoya that has seeds! Too funny! T hank you for everything!
H. Bertoniai
If it is one of the H sp aff burtoniae from "that" plant company from a big box, you might try moving it to a different mix. I find that their basic mix isn't airy enough for long term growth - it's basically plain coco coir. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh".
My meh Hoya, is the same as yours 😂H. Cummingiana 🤮 it looks like hedge.
hedge is the right describtion
LOL, I'd almost be happy with the "hedge" look. Still for what I get from it it takes up too much horizontal space, so the trellis thing is going to happen. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
Meh.
Retusa
I understand, H retusa is what it is. That being said, I do love mine. Thanks for watching and sharing your "meh".
Yea, my H. Tsangii is different. It looks like the Burtoniae. My H. Villosa was a struggle from the beginning and just croaked. 🥲. Trial and error. I love your expression on the huge mealybug. Lol🙋🏼♀️🪴
A lot of H sp aff burtoniae were sold as H tsangii, and sometimes there were a couple of other names on the tag as well. I've found that H globulosa (fka villosa) wants a lot more moisture and more light than I first espected. As you said, trial and error. I just wish I had fewer errors. Thanks for watching and adding your "meh".