Illari will get nerfed once everyone who is going to pay to get her has done so. Just a money making release. This was often done on Warframe and the same is happening here. She is ridiculously OP
I can see your point, so im not gonna try to change your mind or anything, but look at overwatch's history with releasing chracters. Blizzard has always made stupidly broken characters on release or flat out useless. I feel like you're looking way too deep into it, but your perspective is definitely probable. I just think that you shouldn't automatically think the worse because no shit she's gonna get nerfed or even reworked-- so if anyone buys her thinking that they're gonna be able to play her in ranked is just dumb as hell
That is not true. They are trying to not make the same mistake that they made with Lifeweaver. After 20+ buffs, he still feels like he doesn't fit in. Also this character is not OP. People are figuring out how to deal with her. Her ult charge time requires Nerf and her primary fire should take two head shot and 1 body shot to kill 200 hp targets
@@Akshaydjam people like you who defends this stupid point only have one argument: "suzu cleanses it" as like it didnt cleanse everything else in the game. Yeah bro just defend multibillion dollar company that keeps sh1tting in your face and doing obvious cash grabs. This character is blatantly BP sellout flagship, once the hype of the new season passes this character is gonna be nerfed to the ground and gonna be useless. Or its gonna stay the same and maybe goats will be back, either way no one will gonna put up to this circus of a game so it is a win win.
People complain a lot about a support that is all about healing and dealing damages with low/no utility in her kit. Of course she deals damages, of course she heals a lot, that's all she has for her mates and nothing else
Everybody is complaining about her being op but she can be easily countered. The only reason her healing pylon seems op right now is because nobody is bothering to destroy it. It only has 150 hp, you can just shoot it. And if she puts it behind cover, your flankers can easily destroy it. This puts her at a huge disadvantage because now her team doesnt have very much healing other than the beam which cant do anything to heal a full team. Her primary fire does a lot of damage, sure, but it doesnt do any more dps than, zenyatta, kiriko, ana, or bap. Her ultimate can be easily countered in the same way that sigma, genji, or cass ult can be countered. Just fucking shoot her, its not that hard. You click on her body a bunch, you throw cc at her, you heal your team to negate the damage. People are acting like we haven't seen this shit before.
@@cbaileychamp and the win rate will be massively inflated because you'll be learning how to play her before the vast majority of the playerbase learns how to counter her. This happens every time. A hero is nerfed right after release, and then compensations are made later after people realize the hero is now really bad.
@awhryan I agree, with you bout 90 percent, she's perfect, but I'm not gonna lie, that pylon is a bit strong. For example I can get three ults with her in 2 mins on average on my games, that pylon is a suedo ult charger. So for a proper nerf, just tinker its fire rate and maybe increase its healing by a bit to compensate. Or leave it alone for just a straight nerf
Tbh im getting tired of blizzard making the supports so good that they can 1v1 a dps without any problem. It doesn't make sense. They should nerf the dmg of EVERY supports in the game. Their role is to heal and support not to outdamage a dps character...
Make her ult do 10 less impact damage, 10-20 more damage to activate the second explosion, and make it not able to pass though shields. Maybe shorten the range of explosion as well but I feel like that’s not needed. Do this and she’s fine. She’s super strong but not anymore broken than what we have.
She’s not even that overpowered like people say she is she’s honestly solid if she has to be tweaked maybe increase her ult cooldowns and normal cooldowns
Her primary and ult are getting nerfed so hard. She is the strongest counter to flyers IMO if the Illari player has great aim. Her range is just too ridiculous. Also how is that a support ult? What happened to character identities? It's just an AOE damage blast. These devs are clueless and desperate and just keep reshuffling content around.
Strongest counter to flyers if they have great aim... so you mean like any hitscan? Her range and damage is comparable to Cassidy, and she doesn't have a traditional support ult but I don't think that's a bad thing. Support doesn't strictly mean healer, but even then her kit has plenty of healing anyway.
@@zegolem3607 Yes. It isn't like her damage numbers are disproportionate, and every character in the game can deal damage, even the supports. She's got a decent support kit with a dps ult that's not even that wild compared to actual dps ult numbers. She's just the new flavor everyone wants to bitch about. I'm glad they're broadening what the roles can do. Maybe the next tank will have a support ult, like giving a bunch of overhealth.
@@zegolem3607 Her cooldowns need a tweak. No hero is perfect on release. I see zero issue with her kit otherwise. As for supports contesting dps, they already can. People still complain about Kiri, Lucios are a constant threat, Zen can delete tanks. I don’t believe it’s actually an issue. Like I said, it’s just new so it’s an easy target.
Yeah but the fact she does dps level damage with her weapon and ult is the problem. If they want to make her a dps then get rid of her healing. Thats fine.
@prankishsix3204 bap doesnt do his damage nearly as fast Ana doesn't do her damage nearly as fast Moira is also questionable thats why they wanted to change her damage orb
Every single youtube video calls her BROKEN or BUSTED and its really annoying. A mechanically good player can get kills with her. Same with zen, bap, kiri etc. Run dive, focus her pylon just like you would a torb turret and her value goes down like crazy. she might be strong but she's nowhere near BUSTED. The content creators farming views wil get her nerfed into the ground.
Perhaps in terms of stats kiri may be better but this hero’s ultimate literally just kills everybody, her primary is 12x easier to land then kunai. For the most part in my games this character heals by not healing they just go dps front lines and leave behind the healing thingy. Also when she ults her jet pack sends her to the southern air temple to kill pharmacy or whatever else
I think she was a DPS hero in development and changed to support 😅
Undoubtedly. They have too many dps, so they said, "Let's add a healing beam and call her support."
I almost never see them focus on healing or supporting
The pylon does that, it heals as much as mercy
Illari will get nerfed once everyone who is going to pay to get her has done so. Just a money making release. This was often done on Warframe and the same is happening here. She is ridiculously OP
I can see your point, so im not gonna try to change your mind or anything, but look at overwatch's history with releasing chracters. Blizzard has always made stupidly broken characters on release or flat out useless. I feel like you're looking way too deep into it, but your perspective is definitely probable. I just think that you shouldn't automatically think the worse because no shit she's gonna get nerfed or even reworked-- so if anyone buys her thinking that they're gonna be able to play her in ranked is just dumb as hell
That is not true. They are trying to not make the same mistake that they made with Lifeweaver. After 20+ buffs, he still feels like he doesn't fit in. Also this character is not OP. People are figuring out how to deal with her. Her ult charge time requires Nerf and her primary fire should take two head shot and 1 body shot to kill 200 hp targets
nah this a dumb argument cuz they released lifeweaver as unplayably bad
@@Akshaydjam "This character is not OP" - stop smoking crack.
@@Akshaydjam people like you who defends this stupid point only have one argument: "suzu cleanses it" as like it didnt cleanse everything else in the game. Yeah bro just defend multibillion dollar company that keeps sh1tting in your face and doing obvious cash grabs. This character is blatantly BP sellout flagship, once the hype of the new season passes this character is gonna be nerfed to the ground and gonna be useless. Or its gonna stay the same and maybe goats will be back, either way no one will gonna put up to this circus of a game so it is a win win.
The damage is insane, tracer cannot challenge her at all
Skill issue
I ulted with Illari into a grav, they then beated and it still killed 3 in an instant, it almost looked like a bug it was so much damage all at once
They should've released her back in 2020 to promote social distancing
It cracks me up how then went from adding a really bad healer to a stupidly strong one 😂😂
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People complain a lot about a support that is all about healing and dealing damages with low/no utility in her kit. Of course she deals damages, of course she heals a lot, that's all she has for her mates and nothing else
And she is still broken.
@@DemonicLemur learn to aim
@@benoitgarin6477 sure and ill play this hero because shes busted
Everybody is complaining about her being op but she can be easily countered. The only reason her healing pylon seems op right now is because nobody is bothering to destroy it. It only has 150 hp, you can just shoot it. And if she puts it behind cover, your flankers can easily destroy it. This puts her at a huge disadvantage because now her team doesnt have very much healing other than the beam which cant do anything to heal a full team.
Her primary fire does a lot of damage, sure, but it doesnt do any more dps than, zenyatta, kiriko, ana, or bap.
Her ultimate can be easily countered in the same way that sigma, genji, or cass ult can be countered. Just fucking shoot her, its not that hard. You click on her body a bunch, you throw cc at her, you heal your team to negate the damage. People are acting like we haven't seen this shit before.
Easily countered?? Yeah if shes bad. I always one trick the broken chars until hot fix ill come back to this thread and drop my winrate.
@@cbaileychamp and the win rate will be massively inflated because you'll be learning how to play her before the vast majority of the playerbase learns how to counter her. This happens every time. A hero is nerfed right after release, and then compensations are made later after people realize the hero is now really bad.
@awhryan I agree, with you bout 90 percent, she's perfect, but I'm not gonna lie, that pylon is a bit strong. For example I can get three ults with her in 2 mins on average on my games, that pylon is a suedo ult charger. So for a proper nerf, just tinker its fire rate and maybe increase its healing by a bit to compensate. Or leave it alone for just a straight nerf
@@awhryanShe's is better than kiriko in term of dps, she can two shot a 200hp character just like kiriko but she is a hitscan
Tbh im getting tired of blizzard making the supports so good that they can 1v1 a dps without any problem. It doesn't make sense. They should nerf the dmg of EVERY supports in the game. Their role is to heal and support not to outdamage a dps character...
It's like being able to type IDKFA, then play
Remember guys, support =/= healer
Make her ult do 10 less impact damage, 10-20 more damage to activate the second explosion, and make it not able to pass though shields. Maybe shorten the range of explosion as well but I feel like that’s not needed. Do this and she’s fine. She’s super strong but not anymore broken than what we have.
My guess would be you paid to get her!
@@DaveCorbey nope I don’t buy the battle pass because I’m not a loser.
I think if they removed her headshot multiplier it would be a good enough nerf
it is Support?
Shes mid tier once people know how to counter her
She’s not even that overpowered like people say she is she’s honestly solid if she has to be tweaked maybe increase her ult cooldowns and normal cooldowns
Her primary and ult are getting nerfed so hard. She is the strongest counter to flyers IMO if the Illari player has great aim. Her range is just too ridiculous.
Also how is that a support ult? What happened to character identities? It's just an AOE damage blast. These devs are clueless and desperate and just keep reshuffling content around.
Not every support has to have the same ults. I think her ult is busted but it’s Ike to have a dps ult
The window of baptist boost damage
Strongest counter to flyers if they have great aim... so you mean like any hitscan? Her range and damage is comparable to Cassidy, and she doesn't have a traditional support ult but I don't think that's a bad thing. Support doesn't strictly mean healer, but even then her kit has plenty of healing anyway.
@@zegolem3607 Yes. It isn't like her damage numbers are disproportionate, and every character in the game can deal damage, even the supports. She's got a decent support kit with a dps ult that's not even that wild compared to actual dps ult numbers. She's just the new flavor everyone wants to bitch about. I'm glad they're broadening what the roles can do. Maybe the next tank will have a support ult, like giving a bunch of overhealth.
@@zegolem3607 Her cooldowns need a tweak. No hero is perfect on release. I see zero issue with her kit otherwise. As for supports contesting dps, they already can. People still complain about Kiri, Lucios are a constant threat, Zen can delete tanks. I don’t believe it’s actually an issue. Like I said, it’s just new so it’s an easy target.
meanwhile you play against monkey, ball or doom comps and die of cooldown
the best heal is when the dps cause enemy cant damage ur teammates
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Correct, she’s a support! Just because she’s a support doesn’t mean she has to heal bot :D. Take zen for example.
Yeah but the fact she does dps level damage with her weapon and ult is the problem.
If they want to make her a dps then get rid of her healing. Thats fine.
@@DemonicLemur Bap?
@@DemonicLemur Ana?
@@DemonicLemur Moira?
@prankishsix3204 bap doesnt do his damage nearly as fast
Ana doesn't do her damage nearly as fast
Moira is also questionable thats why they wanted to change her damage orb
Locked behind a paywall or hundreds of hours of gameplay...
It’s not hundreds of hours lmao. It’s like 20 if that. I got to 90 last season with my top three hero’s only having 20 ish hours combined.
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Every single youtube video calls her BROKEN or BUSTED and its really annoying. A mechanically good player can get kills with her. Same with zen, bap, kiri etc. Run dive, focus her pylon just like you would a torb turret and her value goes down like crazy. she might be strong but she's nowhere near BUSTED. The content creators farming views wil get her nerfed into the ground.
This hero is so broken.
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Love "healers" in Overwatch.... really wtf
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Kiriko is still better. She does more damage, more healing, and has way better utility. She’s not any more broken than anything we have.
Perhaps in terms of stats kiri may be better but this hero’s ultimate literally just kills everybody, her primary is 12x easier to land then kunai. For the most part in my games this character heals by not healing they just go dps front lines and leave behind the healing thingy. Also when she ults her jet pack sends her to the southern air temple to kill pharmacy or whatever else
Says the Illiari player ;)
@@DaveCorbey nope I’m a kiriko Ana player. I’ll pick her up when I get to tier 45 and she’s in comp.
kiriko sucks ass. Matter of fact OW2 sucks
here we go never heal hero.... AHAHAHA *moira laugh