Johnny vs. EarthBound
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- In today's episode, I'm revisiting a game I didn't think much of years back. But with EarthBound Beginnings behind me, perhaps I can see why this game is such a beloved cult classic? It's EarthBound for the Super Nintendo!
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I definitely feel that Mother 3 is very strong in all of those points you gave criticism. Really think you'll love it over Earthbound.
As do I, especially the characters. Quite a pleasant surprise, they were.
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Hey Nitro, i read it your voice :D
Seems I have a lot of reasons to look forward to Mother 3 according to you guys! I'll get on that as soon as I can.
hope so, that's the only one I never played and I would like to hear what you have to say about it
+SomecallmeJohnny Assuming you are a huge fan of Earthbound, Mother 3 is going to be one of those huge memorable gaming experiences.
+SomecallmeJohnny I only recently played it and I haven't been a huge fan of the series. But I loved this game both for the mechanics and the story!
If you ever do a Review on Donkey Kong County 2 Put a Picture of you with The Completionist
+SomecallmeJohnny Do not go in expecting the same feel as the other games
yeah, earthbound is alright , but i doesn't even come close to the perfection, that is the greatest game of all time : sonic 06
GTFO
+Spassti BYE XD
+Spassti cocaine is a hell of a drug.
guys calm down, this kid is just trolling
+Revenant Z no shit....
Maybe it's not for everyone but it's still my favorite RPG.
same
It's my super fav too.
It's my super fav as well.
I prefer the Quest for Glory series.
+The Wild Card In The Wind Mine as well. I reviewed it on my channel not too long ago, and while I understand Johnny's issues with it, I don't feel like it's something that most people would feel when playing it. I think most people would love it.
Did you just call Earthbound.....a bizarre adventure..?
"Starts posing violently"
PK Warudo?
Shane-gri La PK OH MY GAD!
+Shane-gri La PK Road Roller Da
***** PK MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA!
*muffled Sono Chi no Sadame plays in the background*
This is the first Earthbound video I've seen that doesn't lob endless praise to the game. In that way, it's really refreshing to hear some actual criticism of the game, and I can see where you are coming from. I played the game as a kid and love it, but you bring up a lot points I hadn't thought about until now. Thank you for expanding my viewpoint on this game.
The Video Game Nerd did a video recently were he points out at the flaws this game has...but still praised the shit out of it.
Yeah, Johnny and AVGN's vids are the best. They give it the praise it deserves, but they also give it shit where it deserves it.
> Actual criticism of the game.
He did not even mention fucking Giygas or how often he even kind of lied about some of the issues in the game. It's his weakest review ever.
Lied with what...?
The endless praise of one of the most flawed games I've ever played
Oh man. That appearence by Chuggaa was amazing. He made me think about this game in a different way and he makes this video great.
1:07 should have been the thumbnail.
Haha yeah.
No 2:46 is better
@@Chad_Eldridge How? It's just a funny face.
DID SOMEBODY SAY BIZARRE ADVENTURE
+SM980 *Cue Roundabout*
goddammit you beat me to it
+SM980 I am just imagining Ness doing a JoJo pose!
+SM980 YOU THOUGHT IT WAS MOTHER 3, BUT IT WAS REALLY ME DIO!
I'LL BE THE ROUNDABOUT
1:21 "Oh sweet Mother 2 of Jesus!" That can also apply to Ebay prices of Ness amiibos!
Ness' bizarre adventure: PSI Crusader
+Chris The MGS Fan Lucas' Bizarre Adventure: Porky is Not Dead.
Ninten's Bizarre Adventure: Phantom Melodies
Ness Stando: 《S T A R - R O C K I N '》
PK WARDO - porky
Ness' Bizarre Adventure: StarStorm Crusaders
My favorite thing about Johnny is that he never asks you to like, comment, or subscribe. He's just a down to earth guy who is happy that you watched his video, and just tells you to have a good day at the end.
+Valoe7 While also giving you his honest opinion on the game, regardless of popularity
Also thinks about the common video game player, and how he can recommend the game to them.
This review perfectly demonstrates why you are my favorite reviewer. You took a game that's highly regarded by many and didn't shy away from pointing out the flaws and personal issues you had with it while still highlighting what you enjoyed about the title and understanding why other people enjoy it more than you do. And all in a respectful and methodical manner.
Excellent job Johnny, excellent job.
+no face I've played the games, I can say beyond the shadow of a doubt they have relatively the same problems
+no face That's a unnecessary thing to talk about and a dumb complaint
+no face At least he does admit he won't pretend to understand what makes Earthbound a cult classic to some, not helped by him still needing to cover Mother 3, so it's not like that leaves him with much else to talk about at this time.
Besides, many of you have played Mother 3, which likely helped make some of the previous games better in your eyes in hindsight, but what about Johnny? I don't think he has and that game covers many of his gripes with the previous installments, as many other commenters already pointed out to him. We dunno how that one may change his views on the previous ones.
no name I don't feel it needs explain, I said it just doesn't seem necessary. I don't need him criticizing on why he hates "silent protagonists" or how Earthbound uses them; he doesn't like the trope, its a personal preference. That all I need
idk I found this incredibly wandering.
In all technicality, Jeff gets a lot of action. He's the partner who gets talked to the most. Like when you save Tony from the Human Capsules and whenever his father talks to him. As well as whenever something needs fixing (The broken down Submarine inside the Dungeon Man for example). Poo being 2nd, as he's taken away from the 3 to learn PK (Or PSI) Starstorm. So, in the end, Partner interaction DOES HAPPEN, but it's very rarely throughout the game.
You forgot to put Feat. Chuggaaconroy in the title...
About five minutes into the video and I suddenly notice that Johnny's avatar has changed.
His avatar already change in long time ago
Everything is chrome in the future
+Auto Cartoons FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTURE, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTURE...!
But Chuggaaconroy...
He could've made puns so you wouldn't have to
Quit being spoiled
It;s just a joke. He's one of my personal favorite RUclipsrs, so it's just a little disappointing. Doesn't mean I didn't like the video.
Seth Anderson When did I say you disliked the video?
KidSnivy69 You didn't. I was just saying I didn't "not like" the video. Still the same John I know and love.
That beef stew looked friggin delicious
i feel like literally every complaint you had today is fixed by Mother 3 (except limited inventory, that is still there)
+RSN|Bran Here's hoping!
+SomecallmeJohnny Will you ever try the 'Spectrobes' series?
Limited inventory is SUCH a pain. X_X
+SomecallmeJohnny are you ever gonna review the Paper Mario games?
You do realize that you could have the sister store key items. that clears a lot of room.
You summed it up right there. Earthbound is a game based around experiences and how you react to them. But it's a game that has grown because it symbolizes growing up in so many ways. The story is simple but it's interesting how it's undertones conpliment the style of the world your in. It's a unique game that I think was structured very well in all respects. It's a strange game but it's not supposed to be a gag, only a step out of normal conventions. It just enunciates that better than most
Hey Johnny! It turns out Earthbound and Earthbound beginnings are related. You see when you defeat Gigyas in Earthbound beginnings this basically halts his plans for destroying Earth for many years, but when he decides to do it again this is when Earthbound begins. That's how it is linked in the timeline.
Well pretty much everyone who plays the Mother games knows that.
Geigue foresaw a child defeating him 10 years into the future, he decide to strike early and ends up halting his plan by Ninten, who was not the kid he foresaw, but leaves because he remembers the melody from George and Maria.
10 years later comes in with Ness and Geigue, or Gyigas at this point has undergone massive change that Pokey began to take control of him and activate a devil machine. Losing control and all that.
I've always had a theory that Mother 3 is where Pokey being stuck in "that" machine as he stays there forever and finally reaches the time he evolves into Geigue in Earthbound Beginnings. Meaning Mother 3 is a prequel to all of it.
Reason why I make this claim is because Gyigas in Earthbound is fond of Ness at the boss battle.
Nice theory, but that is definitely wrong due to Nintendo pretty much already confirming that the timeline goes Earthbound beginnings, Earthbound, and Earthbound 2. Also I believe the reason why Gyigas is found of Ness is because Ness is the great grandson of his adoptive mother.
+Tyrese Young Ninten is the Grandson of George and Maria.
Not Ness; nothing's confirmed between Ninten and Ness in any relation.
Ness just resembles him by coincidence hence the final battle having Ness's face.
My bad
Fun fact, Ness is actually a gamer.
PKProGamer 23 ikr
Almost every 13 year old is
Ness' Bizarre Adventure
NBA ftw
To be continued
yare yare
oh shit this was a year ago lol
Go go
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Johnny B. Goode
Okay but the fact he bought that shirt before even knowing if he would like the game
The reason that this is my favorite game is not because of the rpg mechanics, or the story, or even the overall experience. It's because the developers had so much care for their players and knew that they were making a game for them. That ending with your name at the end of the credits was the first time a game thanked me personally for playing through till the end. Games like that hold a different meaning and show that sometimes, it feels nice to be kind to others.
I don't think everyone have that experience, especially if they've played hundreds of games before hand.
I play games because they are fun, not because it feels like the developer is personally stroking me off.
YAY, Chuggaaconroy and Johnny did a collab! Best! Video! Ever!
Honestly happy that you pointed out all the problems this game had. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely a good game and I'd encourage Wii U owners to download it if they haven't already, but I feel like some people are just overly generous with the game because it was so unknown for such a long time.
It might just be me, personally, but I've always had bad luck with this game so a grinding session for me here was always about as long as a grinding session in Beginnings; enemy sets can drain my character's PP really quickly by the third room of a dungeon. It also seems to me like roaming enemies were really hard to avoid because of how much faster they move and how you can only really dodge them with a lucky foreground obstruction.
Still, getting to use the L button for every basic command, rolling HP, and still keeping your exp if you die until you turn the game off, these are great mechanics and I think that by the time they got to mother 3 they fixed most of what I've had a problem with.
+Thunder Ryu I whole heartedly agree gameplay wise this game is lacking. The thing is, the atmosphere is just so mysterious and adventurous and while people like Johnny may not enjoy that and find it lacking in focus, I find it sets my imagination flying and lets me make the whole story myself sending me off in the arcs of it's choosing. Earthbound is more than a game to me it's a feeling, and I go back to it whenever I want to feel that way. It's vague and hard to describe.
That may sound pretentious I suppose, but Earthbound a certain..I forget that French word people use for "a certain something".
I can understand liking the game's atmosphere; as far as SNES RPGs go the world is definitely varied and you actually accomplish quite a bit in the game considering a lot of segments and areas are only visited for an hour or less. Part of my problem might be because I first played this game when I was 12 and I had been playing other games around the time period which I just found more interetsing, so it just never captivated me the way it did a lot of other people. Still a good game though; I have no problem playing it every few years.
+Thunder Ryu I got stuck at the halfway point once. Now I'm gonna play it again to try & beat it. I actually got it for free from Club Nintendo.
tim5fl Define "Halfway point". I remember there being some annoying spots between Threed and Summers, so anywhere in that general ballpark?
Thunder Ryu After Paula gets kidnapped.
Get ready for one of the most depressing games you'll ever play.
Don't be afraid to cry, it's manly tears.
+Mr. MW The Feels Train is coming, where it has plenty of puppies, kittens, bunnies and tissues to help you out on some depressing moments.
Seriously. And that ending doesn't help.
+Mr. MW
"No crying until the end."
About the Mother 3 "rumor"... it all started because Emily Rogers noted in a tweet that it was the franchise's anniversary, and that it'd be nice if Nintendo acknowledged it but SHE NEVER SAID IT WAS COMING, the internet made that up by itself.
+TS Prism since then she seems to have jumped on it being true, although that may be bandwagon jumping for all I know. Can't be sure until an official announcement
Captain J. LinebeckSA She herself said that she wasn't speculating. People just assumed it meant a release for Mother 3. I personally don't think it's happening at all.
Nintendo is too busy preparing the NX to really bother with dealing with launching Mother 3, at least not until the NX is out and selling, and maybe THEN.
I could be 100% wrong, but all I say is that Emily NEVER said the words "Rumor: Mother 3 may be coming to Wii U VC this year"
She just mentioned it was the franchise's anniversary, and she's very specific about what she reports as "Rumors". She'll always include that word. Otherwise is just assumptions based on a personal perception by her.
I think a lot of what you didn't really gravitate towards in Earthbound will be in Mother 3. The characters in Mother 3 aren't the most fleshed out characters in a videogame but Lucas especially goes through some powerful character arcs, and the world itself becomes a character in how it develops throughout the story. The story itself is a LOT better than it is in Earthbound for those reasons plus how it's much more traditional but very emotional, especially the ending of Chapter 4 which tugs at my heartstrings every time.
Funnily enough mother 3 solves all the problems you said
The best thing abouth Mother 3 is that the characters are well worked. In Mother 1 and 2 they are good but they almost never spoke. Is that the reason why Lucas have more personality than Ness in Super Smash Brawl
I like that the character of Duster was meant to be a kind of weird but normal guy. It's simple but surprisingly underused.
Ramen Bacon cute profile pic. What is it?
Cj Newman darude sands-
One of the reasons why I love EarthBound is the music, the entire soundtrack really. This is yet another game that, for me, is made by an incredible soundtrack. Just hearing "Your Name Please" at the credits brings me right back into the world of EarthBound.
Also, EB might have simple gameplay, but real talk, it's not like there are that many turn-based JRPGs with deep battle systems, especially during the SNES era.
+Shy boo There's a hint guy in almost every town, I got stuck in Twoson for a little bit too but the hint guy really helped. Find him.
*****
Whoa nelly, 3/10's a little harsh considering you haven't even gotten Paula yet.
+Shy boo You should look up the official guide, it came with the game.
***** He's to the east of town if I remember correctly, can't miss him really.
+Shy boo I get it, but some old games did come with strategy guides. Dragon Warrior did the same thing. Many NES RPG's had zero direction. So, the Hint guide in-game is a luxury. It also had a ton of fun content and clay figures to look at in its pages. It details what you have to do, but not in a boring form nor giving away too much. I promise you that Twoson was probably the part with the least direction, but it will become easier once you get Paula. Good luck. Earthbound is a game that takes a bit of patience.
(There is no shame in looking at guides friend). If you are stuck, and it's frustrating enough to take away from the game, just use it.
When I started getting into the Mother series, it was really only Mother 3 that mattered. The story and characters made me intrigued with the game before I even got my hands on it, and it was the first one that I played. I didn't pay as much attention to the other two. I think EarthBound was actually the last one I played. By the time I finally go around to it, Mother 3 was the clear cut best game in the series for me. But then slowly and gradually, as I played more and more of EarthBound, I began to enjoy it more than Mother 3. It's not so much about story, but rather the writing, the interactions, the sense that you're on a large scale adventure. As I got older, I started taking Mother 3's sob story less and less seriously. I think it could've been done better but that's besides the point. EarthBound nailed the whole parody of America thing. It's a funny, quirky depiction of our world. I can go on and on about this to even the little things like how I think EarthBound has a superior soundtrack, but nah. Point is, I can see why people would like Mother 3 more, but I think EarthBound has something deeper to look for, and once you find it, you realize how much of a masterpiece the game truly is.
Agreed with you man
A game reviewer who DOES NOT like a cult classic like EarthBound??? And doesn't seem to care for the Mother series despite playing it??? Soooo...... I'm not alone; they are more of us who don't like the quirky weirdness of EarthBound (Mother 2) and that's great!!!
Same goes with Undertale. I don't understand all the hype. I didn't care for either of them.
+LightlySaltedNuts I'll defend Undertale to the death. A lot of detractors say it's just Earthbound but worse, and I don't see how. Mother puts me to sleep (no joke intended), while I feel that Undertale mixes quirkiness and character and world building very nicely.
Yeah because it is. It's Earthbound with LSL:Magna cum Laude
Earthbound is great, Undertale is fucking awful
Watch the video mate, he liked the game, but he never said it was perfect and pointed out the flaws.
I noticed that you were complaining about the control scheme, and the reason it's like that is because it makes it so you can literally play through the entire game with just your left hand.
Earthbound is held in high regard because of its philosophical implications. Earthbound is a social commentary. It talks about issues like prostitutes, gangs, terrorists, and more. Even though character development is lacking, the plot is still emotionally moving. Look at the final boss (Giygas). It's an intense and terrifying fight, but it is also very somber, and almost sad in a way. Even though the game starts off cheery, by the time your reach the third town, Eagleland had taken a huge turn for the worse. If you look at Earthbound not as a commentary and a work of art in RPG form, you'll see a basic RPG with weak graphics and way too limited inventory space. Because as a game, it isn't all that amazing or groundbreaking (although there are plenty of exceptions). You have to look at Earthbound not as a game, but as an experience. I respect your opinion, Johnny, but that's the way I see Earthbound, and I will respect the opinion of anyone else who disagrees with me.
Jonah Snow Amen, brother
the reason that it took this long is because iwata himself absolutely refused to let anyone outside of Japan have it. no rereleases, no collections, no anthology, nothing. keep in mind this digital release was the first time anyone in Europe saw either mother game at all.
To me the Mother series has always been about the experience you have with the games rather than the game play.
+erk prower Same here. My co-author never understood that, and that's why he hates these (although he did admit that he found Mother 3 a little better). I love all three of these games, the first two for the experience you have, and the third one because of the feels. And all three of them have amazing music, and as an upcoming music major, I'm a huge sucker for good video game music.
The Mother 3 review will be the stuff of legends.
Just wait for his Undertale review
+Blackfox413 I hope that ship has sailed.
LifesGoodGaming Why? I'd love to hear his thoughts on it. Besides, intellectual discussion goes great with fanboy tears.
I've just... Had enough of Undertale. But come to think of it, Johnny vs. Undertale would be really cool. But no more after that.
***** Johnny does fair reviews, I doubt he'd say nothing but praise for it.
mother 3 has everything you said earthbound doesnt
+kai moore didnt they say that in begginings?
Im so glad at the VERY last second you complimented the music, Earthbounds music is SO funky
What's Ness's evil side called? Dark Ness?
+Sjono Duckness
*Ba dum tss*
Sjono Goddamnit Barb
It'll be cool if you reviewed fallout 1 and 2
+JamesPlaysGames95 John would probably have a lot of fun with Fallout 2.
i'm currently playing fallout2 and its much more difficult than the first game. i'm trying my best not to use a walkthrough, but i fear i might be too late to find the geck
There isn't actually a time limit on the GECK if I recall correctly. Though if a character leaves your party for some reason, it's usually a good idea to follow them as it means a side quest.
Did you know that you can convince the final boss of Fallout 1 that mutants are infertile and make him commit suicide?
@@demi-femme4821 it's one of the more famous parts of that game. Some people use it as a negative example of the game's dialogue system while others praise things like that and say future games paled in comparison when similar things were attempted.
Example: Colonel Autumn in 3, same premise of conving someone their plans have failed and they should give up but Autumn only requires charisma but The Master requires Charisma and evidence for the claims.
You hit the nail on the mark, Johnny. Every time that I bring up that this games characters are dull and shallow, people always just say "it was a product of its time" (which is bullshit since several of my favorite RPGs were made around the time as Earthbound). Still, I can't hate the game. the soundtrack is great and its certainly unique.
+Chaoz Rush Which is probably why I don´t like Earthound that much.
I have never been able to "put"myself in a character,it feels wrong and stupid tome.
I have seen some LPers do it and have fun with it,but I just can´t do it.
Jordan DeHart Agreed. EarthBound Beginnings was a product of its time but EarthBound? Not really.
I like how the angry video game nerd can find meaning in this game before Johnny it's just always at face value
one of my favorite things about this game was watching the programming. i'm working on my degree and because this game is so simple i was actually able to see how they designed the code for things like talking, menus, inventory, it was really fun, i was like, "OH! i did that in my rpg!" it was nice to see how a game programmed that simply could become so beloved.
The reason why I heard so much about Earthbound was because of Giygas and its boss fight.
+Master Vidxad That is the very reason why I will never play this game.
+Master Vidxad 58
Well..why I'll never finish it all the way through.
The reason this is one of my favorite games is because it's so funny, and the quirky humor just hits me in the right spot
"Maybe a little enlightenment on it come this E3?"
Good one Johnny, you had me on the floor laughing!
Pokey was Cartman before there was a Cartman
this is a game i feel everybody should play at least once in their lifetime
finally after 30 years and remember johnny during mother 3 no crying until the end
so no comment on the gygas fight
"I decided to look it up and OH SWEET MOTHER TWO OF JESUS!!"
My favorite part of the video🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can't believe you got Chuggacconroy in this video!
he has changed so much he look completely different and if u think I'm being serious then wow
2:39 An Earthbound fan's quest is to have Chuggaaconroy in every Earthbound video in existence, apparently.
a bizarre adventure? hmm now where have I heard that before?
+Jordan Thomas WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!
+omni Well, Personas are basically just weaker Stands, so I guess it counts.
A 28 year old man playing video games...
That's the life right there
yep yep it is
Fun fact: if you connect a second controller, you can play the game with either controller, so you could play with another person
I personally don't like the first two Mother games for similar reasons that you have, but Mother 3 left a major impression on me. It basically fixes most of the issues you have with Earthbound: less randomness for the sake of it while maintaining quirky humor, playable characters with actual characterization, recurring villains. It is an amazing game.
Seeing how John explained what he looks for in a RPG with the stories and character arcs makes me wish he would give The World Ends With You a second chance.
+KelvinBelmont Ya know... I remember ages ago him mentioning a brief look at The World Ends With You. He said he didn't like the main character and dropped it. Don't quote me or ask for a source, I don't have one and don't recall where I heard it. Maybe I'm making it up, idk.
EDIT 1: Went over to TV Tropes, apparently its in the SGB playthrough of Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories.
TWEWY is hands down my third favourite RPG of all time and favourite game on the DS
***** No yeah that's why I said I wish he would give it a second shot, very nice development on all the characters
KelvinBelmont
Second? Oh shit I never noticed the very end bit of your comment.
I need sleep.
"The only name i didn't change because his name is fucking poo"
haha i love your reviews johnny keep them up, huge fan
i love how chuggaaconroy is know across the internet as earthbound guy
16:45 WTF xD
+MasterEnex
Johnny is all like "Meh...if the game is in a case I can throw it to the side disrespectfully.".
SomecallmeJohnny?More like SomecallmeSavage.;)
i think he had something to catch it
+MasterEnex Would have been awkward if the game had broken.
"Er... sorry folks, marathon's finished earlier than expected."
5:47 Ohhh Johnny. Wait till you play Mother 3...
Thank you for being critic, and not going with the flow.
@Louise Cyphre I don't want to sound like an asshole. But I can't take THAT guy seriously without a pfp.
to be honest, i love Earthbound in every aspect. The story, gameplay, soundtrack, mechanics, graphics, etc. The blend of Dark, Heartwarming, strange tones, etc. I think the character development is fine, yes character interaction could be better, but the characters do talk to each other a fair amount. Despite those, Earthbound is still my favorite game of all time and always will be, the game is a true masterpiece.
The video only plays in HD? Noooooooo the steaming lag!
Earthbound; Halloween Hack, Mother 4 (Almost Official-esk Fan-game) and Undertale should be part of this "Marathon".
A mysterious old man follows around a young boy talking about "fuzzy pickles" No sir.. I do not want to see your fuzzy pickle... what are you doing with that camera?
6:58 - 7:03 and THAT is why I never truly got into Earthbound hardcore. It felt like it was trying to hard in the “I’m unique because I’m random lol” department
Can't wait for the LISA review, my favourite Earthbound game.
(I'm kidding)
+The Drunken Coward I swear I see you everywhere on youtube, FoTNS videos, vinesauce videos, now this too
*****
I am omnipotent. I am eternal.
You probably see many people everywhere, it's just that my name and my profile picture stand out a bit more than others.
+The Drunken Coward
"You probably see many people everywhere, it's just that my name and my profile picture *stand* out a bit more than others."
Oh you. But I don't think he'll be doing Lisa. I know he's doing Undertale since he said so at the end of 2015 in a BSC video. Lisa is very... yeah. It has "the painful" in its name for a reason. Not really my cup of tea, don't think Johnny will like it too much either.
+The Drunken Coward John said during the Sonic Send-Off Stream he's had requests to review Lisa and said he cant since he is booked up with Mother 3/Undertale then E3. He did say he would review it later on during this or next year...
Accept no Substitutions
Oh, I pray to all the known Gods and their bastards, that he will do so this year.
Ness is more than a cardboard box he's a cardboard box with a hat
As one of the fans that believes EarthBound is one of the best games ever made, I think you pretty much nailed the reason. But it's a combination of two main things for me. The fact that it's comedically self-aware combined with all the ways it breaks RPG tradition.
Earthbound?
Did you mean, "Smiles and Tears": Free Video Game Edition?
"Smiles and tears." This can also be applied to Undertale.
LeoYoshi54321 nah, all of Undertale has an amazing soundtrack. EB just has Home Sweet Home, the sound of the 8 sound stones in harmony, the moment when Ness goes inside of his brain and everything is grey, and Magicant.
OH YEAH AND SMILES AND TEARS DON'T FORGET THAT
Asriel Dreemurr I was not saying that the soundtrack wasn't great. I was just referring to the fact how the game can make you both laugh and cry. I thought that was what you meant.
My feelings towards Earthbound were very similar to yours, and I was reluctant to check out the sequel.
But boy is that game a humongous step up. I can't assure you that you will love it, too, but from the complaints you've made here, well... many of them are addressed, it's overall just a much more conventianally "solid" game.
+timmifutz I'd say their appeal are pretty close. It's all a matter of wether or not you manage to get immersed into the game or not. Earthbound is quite passive about it, while Mother 3 actively tries to make you feel things, which can work... or not.
Honestly they're both amazing in my book. I'd probably give Mother 3 an edge if it wasn't for the second half of the game being a bit weaker in my opinion.
It was much easier to get into for me because it's a much more generally solid game, as well. Many of the gameplay related complaints that Johnny had are addressed.
+timmifutz Well actually, may I ask for you to tell me about the improvements you're thinking of? You can dash, and I guess there's a stronger narrative, but that's kind of all I can think of honestly...
CyclonSilver Battle system is smoother and more unique with the rythm interaction system (which I hope Johnny will learn and talk about about...), the gameplay is generally less slow, the characters, while still not being incredibly deep, have more defined three-dimensional personalities and character arcs. And the graphics are much nicer - on an objective level, too, there is less cutoff and other things of the sort. Also prefer the soundtrack personally
Oh, and the item management doesn't necessarily become better, but there is less emphasis placed on it.
You should've put "feat. Chuggaaconroy" in the title just to piss people off. Then again, I would've been pissed off myself, so maybe no.
Colonel Wepler There are still comments that express anger or disappointed that he didn't have chugga on, it's kinda a high standard if you ask me.
While I disagree with a lot of your points on this one I completely understand why some people dislike this game. Its kind of like when I say I dislike the Halo series.
+EyesofNova - Halo. A decent, playable shooter with breath-taking visuals. But it's heavily indecisive when it comes to its tone. Is it supposed to be a serious military shooter? Is it supposed to be campy? Is it supposed to be scary? Is is supposed to be a Saturday morning cartoon? Who knows? It's a hard game to take seriously. Especially when you're not sure if it's supposed to be.
@@nOT_sURE08 That's mainly because of the shift in development teams. I thought Halo 4's campaign was a masterpiece story-wise, but definitely was tonally inconsistent with the rest of the series.
Halo 5 on the other hand was just a tedious, repetitive mess.
@@nOT_sURE08 Most people care about the multiplayer anyway.
I find it kinda funny really. Giygas (or rather, Giegue) heard with the apple of enlightenment that he was gonna get his ass kicked by Ness, so he went and attacked 50 years earlier. Instead, he got his ass kicked by his adopted parents' grandchildren, and then 50 years later, Ness.
Comma
Why is it the best game of the series that hasn't been released internationally yet?
Also...yes, Earthbound has incredible music and I haven't even played it! All three games have great music (although...I have a hard time listening to GBA soundtracks due to the GBA's sound quality......alllllllthough, the sounds in Mother 3 sound better than in most GBA games).
i think i can accept this appearance of Chugga as it's close enough and more than i would have expected
You finally did it
Ths game's music is indeed pretty darn sexy, I've only played it once YEARS ago, but there are many tracks that pop up randomly in my head
I managed to get a brand new copy of this game way back in the day before it would cost an arm an a leg and I hung onto it! So glad I did! One of my favorite games ever.
I know y'all think John will like Mother 3 alot more but let's not overhype anything. Hype kills alot of things
Hype can kill like no one's business.
That outro nailed it for me, especially since you hadn't mentioned music once in the entire review. This theme is one I completely forgot about for years in favor of Onett's, Foursides, Threed's, Twoson's, eight melodies etcetera, until I heard it again about a year ago, and it's grown on me so much since then, that at this point it's probably my favorite in the game. Which is something considering how much I love Earthbound's ost.
I bet you will like Mother 3
I was about to complain about you not mentioning the music, while thinking "well, I suppose saying the game is bizarrre and unique covers that point, but...", then came the last bit of the video :P... The music and sound design of this game in general are awesome!
Damn it Johnny, I just started writing during the outro, bitching about how you didn't mention the music at all!
I knew it, Johnny has been not into Earthbound and mentioning it since some of the older BSComms vids.
Do you plan on doing a Paper Mario Marathon?
+Donutgames00 Like all games he gets asked to review the answer is yes...eventually. He's said a couple of times he's wanted to touch on the M&L series for Brainscratch. When he does cover Paper Mario I imagine it wouldn't be a PM marathon, but a Mario RPG marathon.
+William Brown maybe, but there is like 10 Mario RPGs
+Adresadini he did 5 2d games, and 6 3D two marathons
I feel like the Mother series has a lot of parallels to JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure. Both have ‘bizarre’ locales and characters, and both took forever to become easily accessible in America. I don’t know, maybe that’s just me.
Mother 3s my favorite of all time
wow I would have never guessed with a profile picture like that xD
I have a feeling Johnny's going to really enjoy Mother 3. And that makes me excited.
Very excited.
Come on, Johnny!
You missed the most awesome opportunity to release it on "Mother's Day"!.....oh well..
Consider it an early release
I'm excited for Johnny's Mother 3 review, since many of the issues he found with Earthbound are improved in Mother 3.
The only one that may still apply is the item system, although it's less of an issue since you use items way more in Mother 3 than in Earthbound, and there are way fewer items that are kinda useless and take up space.
Mother 3 is God.
It's way better in characterization over Mother 2.
+Ben Link It's better in everything over MOTHER 2
***** True actually.
I like how the video doesn't shy away from criticizing EarthBounds flaws, yet the comments and like counter are mostly positive.
I think the reason it's not on the old 3DS is because the new one has a faster CPU and more RAM.
+Whirlwind Spiral XD
+Osaze Mccurley Well it IS emulation, so a lot more power hungry. But yhea I see his point, even the original 3ds had plenty of power to emulate the system perfectly (Hooray for homebrew)
yeah but come on I think a 3DS can run a snes game it's pretty obvious it could
*+Whirlwind Spiral* Emulating a game takes a lot more power than playing it natively.
Though, the old 3DS does actually seem to have that power, since you can play a lot of SNES games using an emulator with homebrew. Not perfectly, but it works, and at a good speed.
+Osaze Mccurley It's been proven that SNES game can't run at full speed on an original 3DS. Emulation is something that requires extensive CPU power, since the console is basically taking SNES code and translating it into something the 3DS can understand. Due to the huge difference in architecture, a powerful enough CPU is required.