Matt Lawson INSISTS Man City LEAVING The Premier League Would Be DAMAGING Amid PL 'CIVIL WAR' 😱😳

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  • Опубликовано: 8 окт 2024
  • The Times' Chief Sports Correspondent Matt Lawton discusses the fallout of Manchester City's legal case against the Premier League.
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Комментарии • 654

  • @johnmiller9253
    @johnmiller9253 3 часа назад +9

    Perhaps the EPL should stop hiring friends or people from the “right” backgrounds and hire competent professionals. This is the second time they have been told the rules that were passed were illegal. Clearly the owners don’t know much and neither does the EPL. Trying hiring professionals and pay them.

  • @SpudsF42
    @SpudsF42 2 часа назад +3

    The greed of these clubs is staggering.

  • @Devypocalypse
    @Devypocalypse 5 часов назад +185

    PL was fine while City were two divisions lower. If they get relegated or removed the league will still be fine. No one team is bigger than the division.

    • @mypointoftoon
      @mypointoftoon 4 часа назад +11

      I agree with your overall point, but you can't compare sending City down the leagues now versus twenty years ago!!

    • @bobofett3966
      @bobofett3966 4 часа назад +38

      It’s fine as long as Utd Liverpool or Arsenal are doing ok, the minute some other team challenges them they want to change the rules, they believe the world revolves around them, secret meetings with the head of the FA etc there’s your corruption

    • @Devypocalypse
      @Devypocalypse 4 часа назад +8

      @@mypointoftoon maybe not in time wise, but I saw Leeds and Blackburn get relegated too. Teams who were champions not many years before. Man City wouldn't be missed, the revenue would right itself as any business model does. As for their fans, a massive amount are just glory supporters. They'll switch to whoever else is winning 🤷🏻

    • @Devypocalypse
      @Devypocalypse 4 часа назад +13

      @@bobofett3966 Oh please. Arsenal haven't won a league in two decades. Liverpool have one in three. It's over a decade since Manure last won it. Stop acting like they are dominating the division.

    • @zephiel1932
      @zephiel1932 4 часа назад +6

      ​@@Devypocalypseif city wernt cheating liverpool would of won 5 and arsenal would of already won 2 , you do realise saying this proves their point not yours??

  • @robzombie5928
    @robzombie5928 2 часа назад +4

    No one/club with the wealth and legal power has challenged the leagues rules until now. The rules are to protect the sport but also we know there in place to entrench historically bigger sides but new rich owners want to buy a club and bring them up, for their own reasons. The rules stop that as well, unless they paid the big price to buy a historically bigger club.

    • @martinaaron609
      @martinaaron609 4 минуты назад

      It's the trickle down effects of having owners who've never experienced not getting their own way in their lives. The concept of "no, you're not allowed" is so entirely alien to them that their determination to have their own way regardless has permeated into the whole club's outlook.

  • @Mcgooseqwerty
    @Mcgooseqwerty 4 часа назад +59

    Anyone remember what football was about 22 lads kicking some leather around a field. When it was simple I enjoyed it now just all about the money. The greed in the sport will kill the game.

    • @Cristobal_2012
      @Cristobal_2012 4 часа назад +1

      Who do you support?

    • @DeanFarquharson
      @DeanFarquharson 4 часа назад +3

      ​@@Cristobal_2012 lets have it right ...the game's been dead since 2010.

    • @jackdeegam7026
      @jackdeegam7026 4 часа назад +2

      Sooner it hits the reset the better it’s all going to come to a sorry end

    • @Cristobal_2012
      @Cristobal_2012 4 часа назад +3

      @@DeanFarquharson interesting you choose 2010.. any reason in particular.?
      I think it actually started to die once the premier league was formed and Sky sports got the power, but others will probably tell you it saved English football 🤷🏼 I guess we'll never know

    • @swedishgooner6339
      @swedishgooner6339 3 часа назад

      @@Cristobal_2012 LOL does that matter?

  • @kevinmcnicoll8649
    @kevinmcnicoll8649 2 часа назад +19

    This is all to stop small teams disrupting the order. If they have the money they should be allowed to spend it

    • @adammohamed..
      @adammohamed.. Час назад +3

      There is no order , theres just successful clubs who have built their history and fanbase over decades of growth. Football shouldnt be a race to the bottom to sign an owner who wants to sugar coat their image.

    • @kevinmcnicoll8649
      @kevinmcnicoll8649 Час назад

      @adammohamed.. doesn't matter. There is no right or wrong way. If Man City or any team have the finance to do it their way then let them do it.
      Barcelona and Real have cheated the system for years and get away with it, because they are a so called big club

    • @reeceb4973
      @reeceb4973 Час назад

      @@adammohamed.. Well said sir.

    • @PorkChopExpress86
      @PorkChopExpress86 Час назад +1

      ​@@adammohamed.. 100% correct. City have shortcutted their way to the top. Prem was fine without them

    • @drep9028
      @drep9028 Час назад

      ​​@@adammohamed..it starts from somewhere. Newton Heath/Utd were bailed out by a wealthy owner, hence they could grow fanbase etc over decades. City similarly got bailed out and are now growing successfully...great to see. Meanwhile...ManU wasting fortune on sacking managers

  • @merlinbotha363
    @merlinbotha363 4 часа назад +12

    Interest free loans are a massive legislative red flag , and carries different tax consequences. Ensuring all loans are financed at or above the prime rate removes a lot of these concerns

    • @paultaylor7184
      @paultaylor7184 3 часа назад

      There are other ways to inject cash into a business, I doubt that will worry City.

    • @nostradamus986
      @nostradamus986 3 часа назад

      ​@@paultaylor7184true self sponsorship

  • @markuswilliams3190
    @markuswilliams3190 2 часа назад +5

    Commonwealth knowledge that they want a super league.
    Let them Go

    • @Cheesybellend
      @Cheesybellend Минуту назад

      It would make the premier league miles better , Propa clubs like boro Sheffield leeds etc in the prem with Propa fans and crowds , bring it on i say

  • @valuscoptrend6908
    @valuscoptrend6908 3 часа назад +3

    It is necessary to subject the rules to means testing. Provided they are equitable for all, no PL club opposes the APT regulations. The introduction of exceptional rules for the benefit of other PL clubs is not permissible. If the introduction rule date occurs after the improvement, it is not possible to enforce regulations on a PL club. These can only be implemented subsequent to the date of introduction. The introduction of rules with the intent to bully and harass other PL clubs is prohibited. Enforce rules that are fair, transparent, and free of any loopholes.

  • @madeinengland9488
    @madeinengland9488 4 часа назад +12

    City are basically says no the rule book has to be rewritten and the rules right now are null and void. Meaning there is no rules right now as we speak so everyone has about a week before the new rules coming into place with the emergency meeting that’s happening next week. Also city have said to the premier league if the rules are not lawful again because you are rushing them, we will take you to court again so take your time.

    • @DarrenMac-yk2gd
      @DarrenMac-yk2gd 4 часа назад +4

      Ya they need to show their power and remove city from the league can’t have one club telling the league what to do

    • @LionKingMCFC
      @LionKingMCFC 4 часа назад +2

      Nope. They said the rules should be written fairly and properly and that doesn't take less that 2 weeks like what happened

    • @mikem8211
      @mikem8211 2 часа назад +1

      Why is it always City moaning?

    • @LionKingMCFC
      @LionKingMCFC 2 часа назад +1

      @@mikem8211 moaning. We're winning the most under these rules ... that doesn't change the fact that they are illegal. We want everyone to be given a fair opportunity.

    • @hughfawcett4333
      @hughfawcett4333 2 часа назад

      ​@@mikem8211because they are discriminated against by the red cartel who run the regulator

  • @ChrisBrandon-j9b
    @ChrisBrandon-j9b 4 часа назад +6

    Considering Europe is based on a free market where-ever possible. Makes this even more of a joke !

    • @TheMercWithMouth
      @TheMercWithMouth 3 часа назад +1

      Free market doesn't mean trying to game the system.

    • @ChrisBrandon-j9b
      @ChrisBrandon-j9b 3 часа назад

      Is does mean, you should just let things run, and not interfere with anything inside the market.

    • @TheMercWithMouth
      @TheMercWithMouth 3 часа назад +1

      @@ChrisBrandon-j9b it means there are processes in place and ethics to uphold. City just look to circumnavigate the system.

    • @shortie8512
      @shortie8512 Час назад

      We're not part of the EU anymore, or have you been asleep since Brexit?

    • @69LDW
      @69LDW Час назад

      UK isnt in Europe , remember Brexit by any chance

  • @paulbee2812
    @paulbee2812 3 часа назад +2

    The over exaggeration on this is mind blowing. The premier league needs to employ people who know what they're doing and the clubs who are classed as financial advisors need to step away. Get people in who know how to write legal and fair financial rules.

  • @Stewy-xw9fz
    @Stewy-xw9fz 2 часа назад +4

    Why don’t they set a salary cap? This entire thing is rubbish

    • @reeceb4973
      @reeceb4973 Час назад

      Unlawful for a start. Premier League needs less ambiguity around their rules, that would be a good start.

    • @Stewy-xw9fz
      @Stewy-xw9fz 36 минут назад

      @@reeceb4973well do like Major League Baseball in America and create a luxury tax. Major League Baseball's (MLB) luxury tax, also known as the Competitive Balance Tax (CBT), is a penalty that teams pay when they exceed a predetermined payroll threshold:
      Purpose: The CBT is a way to regulate how much money teams can spend on their players, and to reduce anti-competitive behavior.
      How it works: Teams are taxed on every dollar spent above the threshold, and the tax rate increases based on how many consecutive years they exceed the limit.
      Thresholds: The 2024 CBT threshold is $237 million for player salaries and benefits.
      Penalties: The penalties for exceeding the threshold are:
      First year: 20% surcharge on all overages
      Second year: 30% surcharge on all overages
      Three or more consecutive years: 50% surcharge on all overages
      Resetting the penalty: If a team dips below the threshold for a season, the penalty level is reset.
      2023 season: The New York Mets paid a record $101 million in luxury tax for the 2023 season
      Surcharges: Teams also pay surcharges for exceeding certain thresholds.

  • @shikhorwahed
    @shikhorwahed 2 часа назад +21

    City are accused of having their owners funneling money into the club. Arsenal, Liverpool funnel money into their clubs via shareholder loans but APT had no regulations for that. Rules for thee but not for me
    Independent panel saw that for what it was: discriminatory
    Now everyone has to play by the same rules. Good luck

    • @wayneh71
      @wayneh71 2 часа назад +2

      @@shikhorwahed finally some sense.

    • @jinlondzale4191
      @jinlondzale4191 2 часа назад +4

      So What’s wrong with investing in the club you own? It’s not like they robbed a bank to get those funds

    • @shikhorwahed
      @shikhorwahed Час назад +3

      @@jinlondzale4191 That’s what City is accused of, investing in a club they own.

    • @jinlondzale4191
      @jinlondzale4191 Час назад +3

      @@shikhorwahed I don’t get it. Investing in your club is illegal how?

    • @shortie8512
      @shortie8512 Час назад +2

      @@shikhorwahed if it is so easy to pump money in via shareholder loans why didn't City take that approach rather than falsely represent sponsorship deals in their accounts? Why haven't Newcastle done this either? It's because loans are debt and considered in PSR calculations, the "argument" is that the interest being paid on those loans is too low and not "fair market value" and should be shown on books for PSR purposes with a higher interest rate

  • @HIXFTM
    @HIXFTM 4 часа назад +22

    Let them go!!!! They can all piss off...and see how many people tune in to that league or whatever tournament they make...set of wonkers

    • @carlr4742
      @carlr4742 4 часа назад

      You just dont get it?? Lack of Brain Cells????

    • @JayDee-rm4zz
      @JayDee-rm4zz 2 часа назад +1

      Spot on!

    • @KevinJohnson-o7h
      @KevinJohnson-o7h Час назад

      If city did make a league im sure alot would rather join that if there putting bigger prize pools up

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 42 минуты назад

      ▪︎Court - PL Rules are Unlawful/Illigal
      ▪︎Media - still on back of City
      ▪︎Media - gutless to call PL are Cheats despite proof?😂

  • @hssIceland
    @hssIceland 4 часа назад +6

    It's just a bunch of rich men arguing over who gets richer. Meanwhile, we, the supporters, suffer. It's pathetic from both sides.
    Stop basing how much a club can spend on transfers and wages on how much they earn from sponsors, etc. See how quickly those overinflated shirt "sponsors" disappear once they realise it won't give them an advantage.

  • @clemfandangoz8700
    @clemfandangoz8700 2 часа назад +2

    When they were in Div 1 absolutely nobody cared.

    • @wayneh71
      @wayneh71 2 часа назад

      @@clemfandangoz8700 the 30k plus fans every week did.

  • @RGSMANIA
    @RGSMANIA 5 часов назад +10

    Damaging for who? 😂😂😂😂

    • @merlinbotha363
      @merlinbotha363 5 часов назад +6

      UK government's relationship with Abu Dhabi

    • @paulorganisation1
      @paulorganisation1 4 часа назад

      ​@@merlinbotha363 ✔️ ✅️

    • @mannyafcarsensl-rc6vv
      @mannyafcarsensl-rc6vv 4 часа назад +1

      @@merlinbotha363 we dont care about abu arabi

    • @SpongePika
      @SpongePika Час назад

      @@mannyafcarsensl-rc6vvfacts! Those bastards should’ve never been able to infiltrate our sports as a way of political manipulation

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 36 минут назад

      ▪︎Court - PL Rules are Unlawful
      ▪︎Media - PL are not Cheats
      ▪︎Media - City damaging PL?😂

  • @SpongePika
    @SpongePika Час назад +1

    I dont know how “well respected” and “journalist” can be said in the same sentence 😂😂 baffling

  • @matflow-v8v
    @matflow-v8v 4 часа назад +4

    Just let every club spend what they want to on players ,if they go bust their fault .

    • @thelmaviaduct
      @thelmaviaduct 3 часа назад +2

      Simpleton type thinking process 🤪

    • @michaelelah8106
      @michaelelah8106 2 часа назад

      Exactly my brother

    • @van_lichenstein8171
      @van_lichenstein8171 Час назад +1

      But it’s the fans who get punished. Look at Portsmouth. Historic club and an entire city almost had its club wiped out due to no fault of the fans.

    • @adammohamed..
      @adammohamed.. Час назад +1

      @@thelmaviaduct mouth open catching flys type

    • @thelmaviaduct
      @thelmaviaduct Час назад

      @@michaelelah8106 you're African and I claim my $100,000.

  • @ChrisBrandon-j9b
    @ChrisBrandon-j9b 4 часа назад +11

    This is very boring now, I wish it went back to the old days. Just let clubs do what they want.
    Aslong as what the do is within the law.
    What's the problem?
    Only people profiting here are the lawyers !!

    • @chrisdickens4268
      @chrisdickens4268 3 часа назад +5

      Argued like an oil baron who can't understand why people don't like him dominating everything....

    • @stevoc9930
      @stevoc9930 2 часа назад +4

      So you don't see a problem with come clubs having to work like an actual business and only being anble to spend what they generate. And some clubs being funded by nefarous Oil rich nation states? It's not like the old days when locol man turned millionaire bought a football club and pumped a few quid in. These Gulf states are pumping billions into football clubs without the hope of ever seeing a return. So not only is that not fair on legit ran clubs, you also have to wonder why are they so keen to waste so much money taking a small club like City and pumping in billions?

    • @mariechu6123
      @mariechu6123 2 часа назад +1

      Oh yeah, wonderful. a 3 horse race every season between City, Newcastle and Chelsea. Evolution NOT revolution !!!

    • @KevinJohnson-o7h
      @KevinJohnson-o7h Час назад +1

      ​@stevoc9930 it's not fair on the smaller clubs top of the pl should be allowed to spend the same as bottom so its fair for everyone it's boring only arsenal and Liverpool challenge city why not a villa or Newcastle for a change

    • @benzo9059
      @benzo9059 30 минут назад

      @@KevinJohnson-o7h Liverpool challenged for titles and in fact won it with a lower net spend than most of the league.

  • @y2k42y2k42
    @y2k42y2k42 4 часа назад +5

    Didn't the Gaydamak family at Portsmouth give Portsmouth shareholders loan under Harry, then when the economy tanked asked for their money back and Portsmouth didn't have it and then had to sell off assets and went down the league's. That is the very reason PSR and FFP was bought in! So why shouldn't Shareholders loans be included in APT & PSR rules, unless your telling me its to protect the few??? Can't have it both ways now!

    • @kerb.
      @kerb. 4 часа назад +2

      Exactly

    • @skacel7
      @skacel7 2 часа назад

      What Portsmouth did (twice) was utterly disgusting. Shambles of a football club. Stealing off charities yet still claiming their stolen FA Cup win. A true stain on football.

    • @yogihightower
      @yogihightower 2 часа назад +2

      You are becoming self aware and you are about to discover the truth.

    • @y2k42y2k42
      @y2k42y2k42 Час назад +1

      Clubs with the most shareholders loans :-
      1) Everton £451m
      2) Brighton £373m
      3) Arsenal £269m
      4) Chelsea £149m
      5) Liverpool £147m
      6) Leicester £132m
      7) Bournemouth £119m
      8) Palace £90m
      9) Wolves £75
      10) Brentford £64m
      11) Nottingham Forest £61m
      12) Aston Villa £10m

  • @silvertain1978
    @silvertain1978 3 часа назад +19

    wouldnt it be just like it was before 2008 and MCFC only had 9 fans? well actually they still have just 9 fans

    • @Esx1961
      @Esx1961 3 часа назад

      Same number as your IQ!

    • @nostradamus986
      @nostradamus986 3 часа назад +2

      Well I can testify spurs is way more popular than man city will ever be in Britain and has 3X more fans too!

    • @robertmclellan3658
      @robertmclellan3658 3 часа назад +13

      Isn’t it City who have held the attendance record for 90 years?

    • @John-c1n9t
      @John-c1n9t 3 часа назад +1

      Oh dear!

    • @silvertain1978
      @silvertain1978 3 часа назад

      @@robertmclellan3658 tickets sold vs actual attendance is different lol

  • @PAB86
    @PAB86 5 часов назад +10

    It's wrong it was brought out to stop Newcastle becoming a force, but it effects City massively too, City and Newcastle have come close nit during this saga.

    • @hmq9052
      @hmq9052 5 часов назад +3

      You can swap tea towels

    • @stevoc9930
      @stevoc9930 2 часа назад

      When you to stop Newcastle becoming a force? Do you mean to stop a team cheating? 🤔

    • @PAB86
      @PAB86 2 часа назад

      @@stevoc9930 how is spending money cheating 😅 never head nothing wgen Chelsea, United, Arsenal, and City did it but once Newcastle get the moolar every man and his dog cry like bitchess, keep crying man.

    • @JJSpence15
      @JJSpence15 Час назад

      The timing of it was appalling and discrimination against one club in particular. It is closing the door on clubs doing what others have been doing for years.

    • @PAB86
      @PAB86 50 минут назад

      @@JJSpence15 exactly mate.

  • @esorkinc4011
    @esorkinc4011 3 часа назад +4

    Manchester United and Liverpool protectionism. Money talks. If you want to keep the game as it was in the 80s and 90s, don't allow overseas ownership

    • @hughfawcett4333
      @hughfawcett4333 2 часа назад

      That means every club would have to leave

    • @esorkinc4011
      @esorkinc4011 Час назад +1

      @@hughfawcett4333 there you go. Much like Hollywood entertainment, the premier league is a good global product, made way better since overseas money like the Kroenkes, Glazers, Abramovich, etc. These owners were allowed because the fans wanted spending improvements. The competition and marketing has made the product better

  • @tomruddell-h7t
    @tomruddell-h7t 30 минут назад

    The 90's was brilliant football without the ridiculous restrictions. Teams like Blackburn could dream 💭

  • @JC10..
    @JC10.. 2 часа назад +2

    Can't wait for United to be plastered with Ineos in a deal worth 2 billion in sponsorship 😎😎

    • @trevorstatham4451
      @trevorstatham4451 Час назад

      @JC10.. until you keep paying a 100 million for Players like Antony, it won't do much

  • @jinlondzale4191
    @jinlondzale4191 2 часа назад +1

    Can’t we all just get along? Life is about enjoying

  • @scottjames1794
    @scottjames1794 32 минуты назад

    Wouldn't be damaging at all could actually see it being more interesting again especially with more clubs like villa,newcastle possibly able to challenge could lead to more Leicester moments.

  • @hughfawcett4333
    @hughfawcett4333 2 часа назад

    The rule book should be unanimously approved then (a) it will be non-discriminatory (b) there'll be no justification for legal challenges

  • @infinitequality7606
    @infinitequality7606 47 минут назад

    Simon made a very good point...

  • @To1988ny
    @To1988ny 2 часа назад +1

    Man city just want a civil war to try make the pl forget about the 115 which isn't going to happen if man city get relegated the championship league can refuse so the be in league 1 or 2 at least I reckon

  • @jameshaas3533
    @jameshaas3533 2 часа назад +1

    If they”ve broken the rules on the 115, they must be punished regardless of whether they have De bruyne or Guardiola. Any other club would be, some already have been, and others must be too if they’re found guilty, no matter how rich and powerful they might be

    • @hughfawcett4333
      @hughfawcett4333 2 часа назад

      This isn't about the 115

    • @stveloop9452
      @stveloop9452 Час назад

      @@hughfawcett4333 the strategy will be linked into the other case to undermine the PL's position.

  • @gavincunningham4598
    @gavincunningham4598 2 часа назад +1

    Letting teams spend what they wanted prior to the ffp rule was a joke ....at the time it sounded great teams like city swapping goater for Robinhio over night also Chelsea doing similar ....
    Most of the teams under not so rich owners who were never allowed to spend or didn't have the funds to spend wouldn't care if city went out of the league

    • @environm3ntalist549
      @environm3ntalist549 2 часа назад

      It was a fairer system than with FFP

    • @va3023
      @va3023 Час назад

      They would care… cause the EPL has a trickle down monetary system. The lower teams and leagues benefit from the big team’s notoriety and world popularity.
      If the big six leaves the EPL, the EPL would loose their current TV rights where most of their revenue comes from.

  • @the-gunner-9692
    @the-gunner-9692 3 часа назад +1

    I think it would be more damaging to keep cheats in the league because then everyone has the right to break rules if City have cheated they have to go like anyone that cheats on any level that this 115 is supposed to be

  • @HananiNleya-dn1fe
    @HananiNleya-dn1fe Час назад

    The two points out of 25 that City won against PL are a deep enuf cut in themselves into the credibility of the league management. Infact only one claim was needed. So the league say they lost to City by a small margin?

  • @SPPalmer01
    @SPPalmer01 4 минуты назад

    Too much money in the game but so many clubs in debt. Needs to be a salary cap. You need to refinance your mortgage just to see your team play every season 🙄

  • @Diabeticteddy
    @Diabeticteddy 2 часа назад +1

    It would be damaging if city stayed in the league because what kind of precedent dies that set... they think they can just threaten with legal action and everyone will just allow them to cheat, it is pathetic

    • @hughfawcett4333
      @hughfawcett4333 2 часа назад +1

      Asking for rules to be legal is hardly cheating!!!

  • @JohnHallett-w8l
    @JohnHallett-w8l 3 часа назад +1

    The premier league is being turned into a circus and playing withour heritage

  • @hmq9052
    @hmq9052 4 часа назад +28

    Integrity is more important than City. So get rid of them.

    • @puffin7285
      @puffin7285 4 часа назад +1

      Integrity would have had the league not stand by and allow the take over in the first place, but they allowed it. It should have been stopped way back when Roman bought Chelsea but the league did not care then and now they have lost control of it.

    • @michaelbell4729
      @michaelbell4729 4 часа назад

      Integrity is more important than the premier league so kick those fuckers out

    • @bobofett3966
      @bobofett3966 4 часа назад +8

      What about the integrity of the red cartel get rid of them, they wanted the premiership they wanted super league they wanted ffp they wanted ASP anything they want.

    • @Cristobal_2012
      @Cristobal_2012 4 часа назад

      Get rid of the "big 6"

    • @58JMG
      @58JMG 4 часа назад

      Integrity?. The Premier League are literally trying to run a cartel and have been proved to be acting illegally.... There is no integrity in that!

  • @whh3946
    @whh3946 3 часа назад +1

    I am all for creating a new league Citeh cannot compete in

  • @ChronTrolla
    @ChronTrolla 3 часа назад +6

    If city don't like the Premier league they can leave. Simple.

  • @allancrosthwaite2219
    @allancrosthwaite2219 38 минут назад

    This has all been caused by the red wall not wanting any competition

  • @scottturner2902
    @scottturner2902 2 часа назад +3

    leave? kick them out ffs

  • @gerhughes6854
    @gerhughes6854 26 минут назад

    Lol if there not put out of the football league it be irreparable damage done if not already, cheating should never be tolerated, stealing trophy's off genuine clubs, very sad

  • @seanohalloran
    @seanohalloran 5 часов назад +6

    Has Man City become bigger than the Premier League if there is fear the league would be worse off without them in it.

    • @madeinengland9488
      @madeinengland9488 5 часов назад

      It’s because of the mom they pull in

    • @madeinengland9488
      @madeinengland9488 5 часов назад +1

      Money*

    • @hassamtarmohamed6222
      @hassamtarmohamed6222 4 часа назад

      @@madeinengland9488 you mean they put in.... not pull in. Their reach is no where near that of existing European giants.

    • @madeinengland9488
      @madeinengland9488 4 часа назад

      @@seanohalloran they are literally making the Premier League the most money right now so no it’s not what they put in.

    • @carlr4742
      @carlr4742 4 часа назад

      You just dont get it?? Lack of Brain Cells????

  • @surfinbearbeats
    @surfinbearbeats Час назад

    Put them in the SPL, see how long they last.

  • @reggawardle4874
    @reggawardle4874 3 часа назад +1

    Didnt city have a problem with champions league, can't remember why but they used to turn backs on CL fanfare...city destroy prem with lawyers..grand plan to realise a super league..CL format is hinting on super league also..I see wot their doing..

  • @peterhunter8274
    @peterhunter8274 Час назад

    If city leave the premier league what will happen to their genuine 8 fans?

  • @jameshaas3533
    @jameshaas3533 2 часа назад

    We need rules or the league might as well be one that’s just for the top 6 to 8 clubs, which will severely damage its attractiveness.

    • @hughfawcett4333
      @hughfawcett4333 2 часа назад

      But they need to be lawful. The fact they aren't shows an intent to manipulate competition

  • @Ironic_chelsea
    @Ironic_chelsea 3 часа назад +1

    City’s mouthpiece

  • @mauricerichards9696
    @mauricerichards9696 2 часа назад +1

    All part of a plan , Barca and Real did not fight and win the right to set another super league for the fun of it . City will join them along with Saudi league as well and this time with agrieved fans on board. Regulator bill never passed and probably not this year.

  • @Burl900
    @Burl900 3 часа назад +4

    Man U 92-2000 = City 2017 - 2023. They don’t like how it feels. If FFP existed then, we wouldn’t have to hear about United 24/7

    • @DPSamfish
      @DPSamfish 3 часа назад

      Top spending PL clubs from 92/93 - 99/00:
      92/93: Blackburn
      93/94: Blackburn
      94/95: Everton
      95/96: Newcastle
      96/97: Newcastle
      97/98: Newcastle
      98/99: Man.United
      99/00: Liverpool
      Well done - you scored 1/8. Google is your friend - try not to let the facts whack you in the head on the way out 😉

    • @yogihightower
      @yogihightower 2 часа назад +2

      ​@@DPSamfishlies

    • @trevorstatham4451
      @trevorstatham4451 Час назад +2

      @DPSamfish you think lying Like that will work?
      It shows United were the club that spent the most over the 10 year period that you mentioned

  • @jakejoseph8228
    @jakejoseph8228 2 часа назад +1

    God if city cant fill the emptyhad while they are winning premier leagues imagine the empty seats in another league 😂

  • @docholiday-lm4vf
    @docholiday-lm4vf 5 часов назад +16

    How exactly would it be damaging?
    No one takes them
    Seriously anyway. Are they are great team on the pitch. Yes absolutely
    Is pep a great manager, yes absolutely
    Did they cheat, yes absolutely.
    Suck it up, own up, take you punishment and move on or leave

    • @beard6160
      @beard6160 5 часов назад

      Ironic

    • @RGSMANIA
      @RGSMANIA 5 часов назад

      They will never be real champions unless they dump all the manufactured wealth, something they literally can't do now. They are just cheating bums for life now.

    • @robertmclellan3658
      @robertmclellan3658 4 часа назад

      Stop whining

    • @DarrenMac-yk2gd
      @DarrenMac-yk2gd 4 часа назад +3

      Their actually boring to watch too

    • @docholiday-lm4vf
      @docholiday-lm4vf 3 часа назад

      @robert when did i whine? Your reply is actually more whining than mine.
      I asked a question and praised them several times.

  • @truegunner7223
    @truegunner7223 3 часа назад

    Simply ban APT else the PL Would be a monopoly for good.

  • @thethomascobbgroup5001
    @thethomascobbgroup5001 2 часа назад

    Comparing the case to a murder trial, I’m sure the irony isn’t lost on him.

  • @Ald-63
    @Ald-63 2 часа назад

    Go back 10 to 15 years and City weren't even mentioned in football's elite. The new kids on the block need to be humble ...as 'humble' Harlaand professes.😀

  • @radioshrink
    @radioshrink 19 минут назад

    You let corrupt people who are used to money and power getting exactly what they want, and this is what you get. Kick them out of the league.

  • @LISSoundtrack
    @LISSoundtrack 2 часа назад

    It's painful listening to Matt Lawson try and talk.

  • @Sportzverge
    @Sportzverge Час назад

    how would it be damaging they werent in it until recently and the league was doing just great

  • @LeonardKahembe
    @LeonardKahembe 38 минут назад

    They mustn't hold the premier league to ransom. They should go & play in the Camels league in Abu Dabhi if they want to do as they please.

  • @DudeLebowski23
    @DudeLebowski23 Час назад

    They need to get back in their lane, nothing club pre 2011. The 80’s, 90’s and 00’s were fine without them dining at the top table, who do they think they are😂😂

  • @curiocityplus8704
    @curiocityplus8704 5 часов назад +10

    Mancity just keeps throwing lawsuits everywhere, they must think they have the ability to trample upon the premier league and succeed. I really cant wait to see where all of these ends.

    • @mickeyknoxnbk219
      @mickeyknoxnbk219 4 часа назад +1

      its ends in nothing lol ,,unlucky

    • @kerb.
      @kerb. 4 часа назад +6

      Are you saying they had no right to contest this when it was ruled that the Premier League behaved unlawfully? Interesting take...

    • @adikapic7542
      @adikapic7542 4 часа назад

      City will bankrupt those criminal enterprises, cartels. City is saving the League

    • @martindennison4578
      @martindennison4578 4 часа назад

      They'll sue and throw a lawsuit against the wind for blowing a freekick over the bar. And probably win too

    • @TheMercWithMouth
      @TheMercWithMouth 3 часа назад

      ​@@kerb.City have been cooking the books well before all that.

  • @DarrenMac-yk2gd
    @DarrenMac-yk2gd 4 часа назад

    It would actually fix a lot

  • @saurabhahlawat425
    @saurabhahlawat425 3 часа назад +3

    I'm seeing rumours that Man City could potentially leave the Premier League. They're welcome to do it - a league with the same number of viewers as the MLS, no disrespect.

  • @kurtmiller7040
    @kurtmiller7040 4 часа назад +4

    The Toon and City for Oil Classico. Lets go

  • @riccardobrogelli3550
    @riccardobrogelli3550 4 часа назад +39

    Cheats playing the victim card. Nothing new here.

    • @louiespage
      @louiespage 3 часа назад

      the red cartel have been cheating for years about time somebody showed them that they no longer own the premier league...........................

    • @robertmclellan3658
      @robertmclellan3658 3 часа назад

      Liverpool and Manu who are the convicted cheats

    • @djn1856
      @djn1856 3 часа назад

      Yea, the same old red cartel cheats trying to fix everything in their favour

    • @robertmclellan3658
      @robertmclellan3658 2 часа назад

      @@riccardobrogelli3550 Isn’t it Liverpool, Arsenal and Manu who are CONVICTED cheats?

    • @stevenmacdonald9619
      @stevenmacdonald9619 2 часа назад

      Idiot. Nothing has ever been proven that they have even done wrong. How sad are you to convict other without facts. Typical Communist

  • @DanLucas24
    @DanLucas24 Час назад

    Tbh I'm getting sick to death of this

  • @adrak91
    @adrak91 2 часа назад +1

    if ffp goes out the window then Newcastle will be the one big club

    • @danielhunter34
      @danielhunter34 Час назад

      As a city fan we don’t want ffp gone, we want a fair system in place which will make the league more competitive and not just the same old cartel

  • @michaellord2844
    @michaellord2844 Час назад

    Sounds like the relationship between Prem and City is broken, therefore time to setup a new premier league and invite teams to join, except City lol They bring nothing except toxic money

  • @antmar6552
    @antmar6552 2 часа назад

    manchester city advertise tickets on reddit. its constant, and rather annoying. i dont engage with city threads, just football in general. ive not seen any other clubs almost beg for fans.

  • @frankym8621
    @frankym8621 45 минут назад

    Can they leave let's see what happens..... Nothing

  • @LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989
    @LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989 Час назад

    No one club is bigger than the league. If City leave life will go on.

  • @dgoodk5792
    @dgoodk5792 3 часа назад +8

    One thing is sure, if Man City are guilty on 115 charges the PL will show no mercy after their antics.

    • @GermanChickenwing
      @GermanChickenwing 3 часа назад +4

      Tells you City would not, no chance..This is the problem with rival fans, they would rather have rules that discriminate City than rules that's fair to all

    • @robertmclellan3658
      @robertmclellan3658 3 часа назад

      Don’t think so soft lad

    • @esorkinc4011
      @esorkinc4011 3 часа назад

      I bet you couldn't get yourself off a traffic ticket moreover arguing legal complexities.

    • @fazlekhan8024
      @fazlekhan8024 2 часа назад +1

      I can tell you all this much.. City really don't care if they win.. just pay a fine. 2nd division: fine. We'll be back the next. Simple.. nothing we City Fans care or worry about. It's everyone else.😂😂😂

    • @mikem8211
      @mikem8211 2 часа назад

      ​@fazlekhan8024 What makes you think it's gonna be the 2nd division? Could be non league

  • @daniellockett9975
    @daniellockett9975 4 минуты назад

    Just hurry up and charge and sentence them back to the second division already! Then do their blueprint Chelsea next and they can both go back to where they belong. Thanks

  • @JakeyGamer-d6r
    @JakeyGamer-d6r 2 часа назад

    I'm so sick of this dominating all football conversations.

  • @davidbowen6284
    @davidbowen6284 2 часа назад

    If the premier league were getting a kick back financially would they be kicking off on City? Probably not. To me this sounds like a power game. The premier league has had their neck knocked in. City are proving to be top big for them and they're not getting a cut financially to turn a blind eye

  • @stevoc9930
    @stevoc9930 2 часа назад +1

    City weren't even one of the biggest 6-8 clubs in the division (the times hey were in it). Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton, Chelsea are all bigger clubs. City are in the next lot with Newcastle, Forest and Leeds. The PL will be fine while they work their way back up the football pyramid. Hopefully minus their crooked owners.

    • @trevorstatham4451
      @trevorstatham4451 Час назад

      @stevoc9930 and these "bigger" clubs having failed to compete with City are now going to their daddy EPL to get the "small" club City thrown out? You see how your argument paints you as the bad guy?

    • @trevorstatham4451
      @trevorstatham4451 Час назад

      @stevoc9930 City can't be this doped up juggernaut that's destroying the EPL and a small tier 2 club at the same time. Can't have it both ways

    • @stevoc9930
      @stevoc9930 Час назад

      @trevorstatham4451 They're a middling sized club doped up by a nefarious Oil rich gulf state. No one including City fans is under any illusions as to how Man City started winning league titles after going 35 years yo yoing between divisions.

    • @stevoc9930
      @stevoc9930 Час назад

      @trevorstatham4451 Other clubs aren't competing with City. "City" is nothing more than a front for a sovereign wealth fund worth trillions determined to engage in some sportwashing.
      That's what legitimately ran football clubs are competing with. Surely you're not naive enough to believe otherwise?

  • @garydavis9927
    @garydavis9927 3 часа назад

    has the governance stopped city winning numerous league's

  • @kazanchis100
    @kazanchis100 3 часа назад

    PL should stand firm or allow teams like Villa and Newcastle to enjoy same level of privilege like City had.
    Let other rich owners flood their money to their clubs…

  • @user-zi7ep9jz1d
    @user-zi7ep9jz1d 3 часа назад

    The premier league wanted glamour when it came in to being, now when billionaires own clubs they are snowed under with rules that are challenged at every turn . Let the big seven leave to form a super league then the clubs that are left must agree on a fair system that all can stick to ,allowing each club the chance of winning the league without going under or having points deducted .

  • @gregorymaymon1052
    @gregorymaymon1052 20 минут назад

    Premier league started the fight and now they have bitten off more than they can chew

  • @davefovargue7279
    @davefovargue7279 4 часа назад

    Jumpers for goalposts.

  • @chrispalmer7893
    @chrispalmer7893 3 часа назад

    City leaving the Premier League is only damaging if City are right and the League are wrong. If City are wrong, the PL is quite right to stand against them.

  • @JP-es1nb
    @JP-es1nb Час назад

    Nobody actually cares anymore. Let Man City spend what they want. Competition died a long time ago when you let clubs be owned by states and clubs financed by debt consortiums. The fact clubs are allowed to run a loss each year tells you it’s madness, yet they spend more and more. It’s all just creative accounting to make it look competitive. The business makes money and owners already stick in what they want. Just kick them out to a super league and let the rest of the clubs compete on their own. Give them the choice. Rules or no rules. All we do is argue about money now. It’s gone too far

  • @sebastianlassus912
    @sebastianlassus912 3 часа назад

    SEND THEM TO VARAMA

  • @peterhunter8274
    @peterhunter8274 Час назад

    The premier league was better before city where relevant so if they leave it make no difference.

  • @magdebates2697
    @magdebates2697 3 часа назад

    its alll about the moneyyyy . very sad

  • @Danbr-bg3pt
    @Danbr-bg3pt 2 часа назад

    I think Matt Lawton stutters too much

  • @RJinks87
    @RJinks87 Час назад

    No one would care if City left the league except all 3 of their fans…

  • @stanh8071
    @stanh8071 Час назад

    Say 6 items on a charge sheet. The judge says. 1 of them is UNLAWFUL. Thats it the other 5 are thrown out. That is the law/ RULE
    City won

  • @dazchild
    @dazchild 5 часов назад +1

    Is Danny doing his shopping list?

    • @strider775
      @strider775 3 часа назад

      No, he's picking his nose.

    • @johnhughes4612
      @johnhughes4612 Час назад

      He's trying to decipher what matt lawson is saying

  • @hardydragon3
    @hardydragon3 4 часа назад

    City has to get only 7 clubs in there team.

  • @guyverjay1289
    @guyverjay1289 2 часа назад

    It really wouldn't 😂

  • @BobbyHoskins1016
    @BobbyHoskins1016 4 часа назад

    and where would they play their football exactly? .......

    • @thelmaviaduct
      @thelmaviaduct 3 часа назад +1

      Should start their own BS league with psg

    • @latticesev1746
      @latticesev1746 Час назад

      @@thelmaviaduct With the Saudis

  • @dondada7643
    @dondada7643 3 часа назад +5

    When I listen to Matt Lawson, I wonder how the heck did he get the job of Chief Correspondent, makes me realise Sports Journalist are not that smart

  • @MichaelKilburn
    @MichaelKilburn 2 часа назад +4

    No one would miss City

    • @shango7942
      @shango7942 51 минуту назад +1

      I would. They play the best football.

    • @MichaelKilburn
      @MichaelKilburn 48 минут назад

      @@shango7942 😴

  • @ilirunited389
    @ilirunited389 2 часа назад

    GET F CHEATS OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

  • @agentancelotti2985
    @agentancelotti2985 5 часов назад +6

    Anyone thinking this is good news are bonkers the government will step in at some point and take control of this if it carries on the end of the beautiful game is near 😢

    • @harryale
      @harryale 4 часа назад

      And then FIFA will suspend England for government involvement. Please note, FIFA has done similar to many African countries unless they want to show double standards, they don't suspend England.

    • @antoinedoinell
      @antoinedoinell 4 часа назад

      lol

    • @sjones79
      @sjones79 4 часа назад

      The beautiful game is already destroyed