i like how he seems to lean a bit more on our side in the final sentence - admitting he was wrong and wants to wish the best for us when we inevitably fight calus.
@@st0neofthebone Ghaul was moments away from realizing that we aren't what he thought we were, when he saw the sun rise. Consul was the real asshat in the potential shift of Ghaul's dynamics, bringing that magnificent bastard to his heel before Ghaul killed him.
@@jaygei_2641 Imagine if its revealed that Ghaul would've been worthy of the light upon his death, had he not taken it by force. He was devoted to the elevation of his people, which made him brave enough to challenge an army of god-killers, the pursuit of whose power led to him sacrificing everything he held dear: his father figure, his prized star-destroying weapon, and by taking the majority of his forces to Sol, the very empire he was trying to save.
@Christopher Garland I'm gonna be honest, I actually don't mind if they bring back Ghaul, like actually bring him back (no Nightmare/Memory thingmajig), as long they write him correctly... which, by the looks of recent story decisions, I am afraid they wouldn't.
@@jaygei_2641 Same. I would love to see Ghaul get a redemption, but bringing him back would only raise questions about how he was chosen to be resurrected, but not Amanda.
"In a world without the fear of death, men could not face that fear and seek out hope. Certainly, they could keep walking onward by merely living, but that would be very different from walking onward while conquering their own fears. That is why we give the act of walking onward a special name. We call it 'courage'." -Aizen Sosuke Bravery is to act, despite your fears. Without fear, there is no bravery.
@@Sol_Invictus1997 Heads up, this particular quote is from the very final chapter of the manga, which hasn't not been animated yet. It's from the Thousand Year Blood War arc, which is currently being animated. It will be split into 4 seasons, with about 9 months of delay between each. First season released in October 2022 and S2 will release in July this year. Personally Bleach is one of my favorite animes. Aizen is a great character
I never heard this when I was in the leviathan, would’ve been cool to hear it since he was the first villain I was introduced to in destiny when I first started playing.
Season of the Haunted is easily my fave season in terms of narrative. It's entire plot revolves around showing us the insecure and hidden sides of characters that are unseen. Caiatl learning to accept the failures of Cabal warrior culture and changing her perception of Ghaul was great and seeing Crow accept his past life's mistakes were fantastic, but seeing Zavala, what we saw as the ideal Titan in his leadership, stoicism, honor, and duty be exposed as a hollow man living in centuries of regret learning to forgive himself was tear jerking, especially so after Lance's death. I really hope Bungie can get back to that high level writing from Witch Queen and Season of the Haunted in Season of the Deep and onward.
It’s nice and all until you realize that these are just projections and they’re not the real people we meet so their redemption is a fallacy made as a coping mechanism for the people who suffer from their existence
No they're not the real people, but they are ethereal copies of their personalities. Remember the Darkness is the psychic intangible layer of the universe. Nightmares draw from not only the memories of those they plague, but also the memory of the Universe itself. These nightmares are perfect copies of the minds they represent, not just representations built by how we feel about them. Sure they seem to be influenced by our perception, but they definitely draw from things outside of our own memories, (often they mention things to us that our character should not know about them). So while technically not real, they do think pretty much exactly the way that their original counterparts did.
The cabal are one of the two races of enemies that I’ve always loved since D1 and hearing caital and ghaul speak to us like we’re equals or at least warrior equals is really surreal
I absolutely loved hearing Ghaul during this particular season because it wasn't from the point of view of a current enemy, rather someone who we've defeated and is paying us our respects. Probably one of the best voices for a former enemy at any point in this game's existence.
“I will protect those who cannot protect themselves. I will protect even those I hate, so long as it is right. I will protect those I hate. Even...even if the one I hate most is... myself.”
If Ghaul saw what is going on now. We would be able to play as fallen and cabal and maybe hive or taken versions of guardians like death knights on WoW. But thats for marathons to ignore.
This actually makes a better and more likable villain. I wish they made him more fleahed out and had more interactions with us in the Red War like Oryx did. Oryx would project his face and insult us and send an echo to face us. Say we are unworthy to fave him. I wish Ghaul spent more time invested kn us than he was communing with a machine and the creature that claimed to speak to it. Wish the Consul got more too.
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The only thing scarier than a Cabal wishing for your destruction is a Cabal wishing the best for you.
True, but the best thing about that is you know, whether beside you or going wherever they are going, they have your back with those words.
i like how he seems to lean a bit more on our side in the final sentence - admitting he was wrong and wants to wish the best for us when we inevitably fight calus.
Ghaul seeing Calus in the afterlife, they're gonna fight for sure.
If Caiatl can learn to like Guardians, so can Ghaul
Reformed lightbearer Ghaul would be an incredible turn at the end of the saga
@@st0neofthebone Ghaul was moments away from realizing that we aren't what he thought we were, when he saw the sun rise. Consul was the real asshat in the potential shift of Ghaul's dynamics, bringing that magnificent bastard to his heel before Ghaul killed him.
Honestly I feel Ghaul is only on our side in that because he hates Calus more than he hates us.
Un-ironically, Ghaul is fucking goated. Great boss fight, amazing dialogue, and just a great villain in general
I know right? I feel like the Red War campaign is so underrated.
We never really know what the traveler did to ghaul, for all we know he's in the traveler fighting the witness lol, wouldn't that be a twist.
Would be super cool
That'd...would actually be kinda cool?
@@jaygei_2641 Imagine if its revealed that Ghaul would've been worthy of the light upon his death, had he not taken it by force.
He was devoted to the elevation of his people, which made him brave enough to challenge an army of god-killers, the pursuit of whose power led to him sacrificing everything he held dear: his father figure, his prized star-destroying weapon, and by taking the majority of his forces to Sol, the very empire he was trying to save.
@Christopher Garland I'm gonna be honest, I actually don't mind if they bring back Ghaul, like actually bring him back (no Nightmare/Memory thingmajig), as long they write him correctly... which, by the looks of recent story decisions, I am afraid they wouldn't.
@@jaygei_2641 Same. I would love to see Ghaul get a redemption, but bringing him back would only raise questions about how he was chosen to be resurrected, but not Amanda.
And in the end Calus died as well...
Rip those who haven't played Lightfall 💀 though its kind of obvious he gotta die
@@ArtoriasCiaran76 dudes worried about spoilers 2 months after release
"In a world without the fear of death, men could not face that fear and seek out hope. Certainly, they could keep walking onward by merely living, but that would be very different from walking onward while conquering their own fears. That is why we give the act of walking onward a special name. We call it 'courage'." -Aizen Sosuke
Bravery is to act, despite your fears. Without fear, there is no bravery.
That’s an amazing quote. I never watched Bleach, but this just might make me. 😂
@@Sol_Invictus1997 Heads up, this particular quote is from the very final chapter of the manga, which hasn't not been animated yet. It's from the Thousand Year Blood War arc, which is currently being animated. It will be split into 4 seasons, with about 9 months of delay between each. First season released in October 2022 and S2 will release in July this year.
Personally Bleach is one of my favorite animes. Aizen is a great character
Oh calus definitely did lol
Ghaul said a guardian's love makes them strong
lmao yeah that's basically it
He makes an interesting point
Love how he says "may callus make the same mistake", damn he really hates him...
@@gio-gioarmani2268 Yeah, he was part of the group of Cabal trying to kill him, if I'm not mistaken. The Midnight Coup, I believe it was called?
@@VistilShaiteth yeah
I never heard this when I was in the leviathan, would’ve been cool to hear it since he was the first villain I was introduced to in destiny when I first started playing.
Season of the Haunted is easily my fave season in terms of narrative. It's entire plot revolves around showing us the insecure and hidden sides of characters that are unseen. Caiatl learning to accept the failures of Cabal warrior culture and changing her perception of Ghaul was great and seeing Crow accept his past life's mistakes were fantastic, but seeing Zavala, what we saw as the ideal Titan in his leadership, stoicism, honor, and duty be exposed as a hollow man living in centuries of regret learning to forgive himself was tear jerking, especially so after Lance's death. I really hope Bungie can get back to that high level writing from Witch Queen and Season of the Haunted in Season of the Deep and onward.
It’s nice and all until you realize that these are just projections and they’re not the real people we meet so their redemption is a fallacy made as a coping mechanism for the people who suffer from their existence
Exactly.
No they're not the real people, but they are ethereal copies of their personalities. Remember the Darkness is the psychic intangible layer of the universe. Nightmares draw from not only the memories of those they plague, but also the memory of the Universe itself. These nightmares are perfect copies of the minds they represent, not just representations built by how we feel about them. Sure they seem to be influenced by our perception, but they definitely draw from things outside of our own memories, (often they mention things to us that our character should not know about them). So while technically not real, they do think pretty much exactly the way that their original counterparts did.
@@mosisusasu9205 basically yeah, they’re like cosmic space ghosts which is just fucking rad
@@LaLloronaVT Basically like Cayde 6 now. Fucking star war ghosts
I think that if he realized that earlier we could’ve seen an alliance with him which would’ve been cool but it’s cool seeing this in game
The cabal are one of the two races of enemies that I’ve always loved since D1 and hearing caital and ghaul speak to us like we’re equals or at least warrior equals is really surreal
It’s funny how Ghaul is practically on our side now… even though he’s dead
ay im starting to like ghaul
you did just now
i did that just after the red war was vaulted
How many VOG clears do I need for you to finally notice me Vex-senpai!?!?
I liked him from the beginning
I actually loved this season tbh. Def top 5 for me. Though I came pretty late to the party, only start D2 in season 16 or 15
Oh, Calus made that mistake alright. And he paid dearly for it.
"may calus make the same mistake!" and so he did
Why did this have to leave i loved this season so much
I absolutely loved hearing Ghaul during this particular season because it wasn't from the point of view of a current enemy, rather someone who we've defeated and is paying us our respects.
Probably one of the best voices for a former enemy at any point in this game's existence.
Sad part is he's right
funny enough this is how our brains think when some one is wrong about us then we prove them wrong
Even being immortal we still fear death. We fear it because death can take everything from us and we can't do anything about.
the true final shape are the friends we made along the way!
Say what you want about Ghaul, but he has his own sense of honor
“I will protect those who cannot protect themselves. I will protect even those I hate, so long as it is right. I will protect those I hate. Even...even if the one I hate most is... myself.”
Based Ghaul, he is invited to the cookout
You threw me off a building
So basically we got a bit of respect from ghaul in the end
If Ghaul saw what is going on now. We would be able to play as fallen and cabal and maybe hive or taken versions of guardians like death knights on WoW. But thats for marathons to ignore.
This actually makes a better and more likable villain. I wish they made him more fleahed out and had more interactions with us in the Red War like Oryx did. Oryx would project his face and insult us and send an echo to face us. Say we are unworthy to fave him. I wish Ghaul spent more time invested kn us than he was communing with a machine and the creature that claimed to speak to it. Wish the Consul got more too.
Damn, this clip is crisp like McDonald’s sprite
is that a firefright with osmosis? was a little confused how you had a void haunted auto/smg
Yup. That’s what it is.
He does not admit sh*t. It's not Ghaul speaking.
Technically it is but isn’t so
Bro we just fight to get loot 🤣
Do any of us really care about the people of the last city
I like how my weapons kill things : )
“I see what truly drives you is the loot crate at the end of the mission”
I dont care about the last city, nope.
I care about getting cowboy hat 🤠
I mean story wise yeah. Gameplay wise no.
Actually, he was far from wrong
DAYUM
void firefright??
I crafted it with Osmosis.
Is that the same voice actor? He sounds different.
Yeah, it’s the same guy.
@@Sol_Invictus1997 I guess it had been awhile since he voiced ghaul, probably why he sounds different
ok but how in the hell is he using 3 void weapons
My primary has osmosis. It’s the Firefright from season of the Haunted.
@@Sol_Invictus1997 ngl I don't think I've ever read what osmosis does so that'd explain it