Former REI Repair Counter guy who has rebuilt hundreds of Whisperlite's. To avoid the soot that priming with white gas causes I carry a small bottle of denatured alcohol for priming. It leaves no soot at all.
Great video. MSR doesn't mention it in the documentation, but the best way to stop the stove is to flip the bottle over (the fuel line has a swivel). The fuel pickup tube is suspended above the fuel level and forces air into the line, clearing it (and the pump) of liquid fuel. It also depressurizes the bottle if you leave it like that for a minute or two, minimizing fuel spills when removing the pump. :)
Don't think the fuel line will swivel with the aluminum block locked to the pump. Probably why it is not in the documentation. No one seems to talk about this? EDIT : Ok, just tried it again with the stove & fuel line not connected to the pump. Mine was stuck and did not swivel in the al block. Used a bit more force and it broke free and then was able to swivel the al block around the fuel line so yes now should be able to flip the fuel bottle over with the brass end of the fuel line rotating 180 degrees in the pump fuel line o-ring.
Thank you very much for the "in-service" on this MSR stove. I've recently purchased one of these, (for an earthquake/emergency/camping supply storage kit), and want to use it a few times before having to use it in an emergency. You did well with this, and I'm sure that there are others that appreciate your information, and time, in putting this video together as well. Thanks, Don. (feb. 5, 2022)
Hi Don, it's a great stove for use in an emergency. Hopefully you won't have to use it for that scenario. It's much more enjoyable after a fun day outdoors :) Thanks for watching!
I put 3 pumps in My bottle , prime the cup ,lite stove flame stays very low, when warm I open up valve a little when it burns blue I then add pressure!! No crazy flames etc. I can even simmer perfectly.. it's all about tank pressure ..God Bless 👍💯
Great tip. I also often turn on the stove before the priming flame goes out, when it's very low. That works well and is one less step. It sounds like you have your system wired. Thanks for sharing :)
@@PolarExplorers actually I have only played with it for about an hour. Alot of experience with many stoves and lanterns. I figured it out after 3 burns ..😊. Shouldn't be any changes unless stove needs cleaned , or something is clogged up or bad fuel
Excellent video. I own 5 of these stoves and have used them since 1986. I have always used stove boards but had not thought about drilling holes to reduce weight. Even pulling a sled, saving weight is saving weight. Thank You, great video!
Thanks Big Sky, I'll share our new stove board system soon. It's pretty cool. I agree these are great stoves. So simple and easy to maintain. Thanks for watching!
Use alcohol to primer, it clean and looks less scary. Alcohol is good emergency fuel because burner can be simple and light, even aluminum foil. When flames hit to generator tube, it heating faster. Turn it to wind for that.
Thanks Jari, I know some people use alcohol to prime their Whisperlite stoves. For me bringing alcohol is just one more thing to carry. I don't mind the flame during the process of priming. I've actually come to enjoy it - like my own little campfire before the meal :) However, using alcohol for priming the stove (and only priming, not fueling it) is a good option to know about. Thanks!
Thanks Ariel... Yes, the amount of the flame is controllable, to a point. You can simmer, which is a selling point of the stove, but it's not always the best simmer. Another option, which I do more, is to roll the wind screen a little tighter so I can rest my pan on top of the windscreen which makes it a few inches above the burner. This is how I make pancakes and fry up quesadillas, etc. (sorry, the wind screen is not shown in this video).
You are right about over-pressurizing the bottle. Over pressurizing the bottle can make the nosel of the stove spit liquid fuel and would stop vapourizing the liquid into gas.
Hey Richard, it depends on a few factors including the size of the bottle. MSR makes an 11 oz, 20 oz and 30 oz bottle. With the 20 oz bottle, at average outside temperatures you're looking at about 1 hour and 45 minutes of run time,. Typically a litre of water takes a couple of minutes to boil. But in cold temperatures efficiency and fuel consumption will go up a bit.
I wish that these uploads would leave out the background music... It is SO distracting... WE DON'T NEED BACKGROUND MUZAK PLAYING WHEN WATCHING AN INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO.
Thank you for such a straight forward and informative tutorial and product demonstration.
Thanks for watching!
Former REI Repair Counter guy who has rebuilt hundreds of Whisperlite's. To avoid the soot that priming with white gas causes I carry a small bottle of denatured alcohol for priming. It leaves no soot at all.
Thanks Jon, I've heard about that but never done it myself.
Good idea. That soot shit gets old
Great video. MSR doesn't mention it in the documentation, but the best way to stop the stove is to flip the bottle over (the fuel line has a swivel). The fuel pickup tube is suspended above the fuel level and forces air into the line, clearing it (and the pump) of liquid fuel. It also depressurizes the bottle if you leave it like that for a minute or two, minimizing fuel spills when removing the pump. :)
Awesome idea. Thanks for that tip. I'll try it next time I'm using the stove.
Don't think the fuel line will swivel with the aluminum block locked to the pump. Probably why it is not in the documentation. No one seems to talk about this?
EDIT : Ok, just tried it again with the stove & fuel line not connected to the pump. Mine was stuck and did not swivel in the al block. Used a bit more force and it broke free and then was able to swivel the al block around the fuel line so yes now should be able to flip the fuel bottle over with the brass end of the fuel line rotating 180 degrees in the pump fuel line o-ring.
Thanks for sharing your experience :)@@shoersa
Thank you very much for the "in-service" on this MSR stove. I've recently purchased one of these, (for an earthquake/emergency/camping supply storage kit), and want to use it a few times before having to use it in an emergency. You did well with this, and I'm sure that there are others that appreciate your information, and time, in putting this video together as well. Thanks, Don. (feb. 5, 2022)
Hi Don, it's a great stove for use in an emergency. Hopefully you won't have to use it for that scenario. It's much more enjoyable after a fun day outdoors :) Thanks for watching!
I put 3 pumps in My bottle , prime the cup ,lite stove flame stays very low, when warm I open up valve a little when it burns blue I then add pressure!! No crazy flames etc. I can even simmer perfectly.. it's all about tank pressure ..God Bless 👍💯
Great tip. I also often turn on the stove before the priming flame goes out, when it's very low. That works well and is one less step. It sounds like you have your system wired. Thanks for sharing :)
@@PolarExplorers actually I have only played with it for about an hour. Alot of experience with many stoves and lanterns. I figured it out after 3 burns ..😊. Shouldn't be any changes unless stove needs cleaned , or something is clogged up or bad fuel
Excellent video. I own 5 of these stoves and have used them since 1986. I have always used stove boards but had not thought about drilling holes to reduce weight. Even pulling a sled, saving weight is saving weight. Thank You, great video!
Thanks Big Sky, I'll share our new stove board system soon. It's pretty cool. I agree these are great stoves. So simple and easy to maintain. Thanks for watching!
Not EXCELLENT.... Good yes... Excellent NO! Why? BACKGROUND MUZAK.
Best explanation I’ve seen yet!
Thanks! I hope you have some good adventures with your stove :)
Use alcohol to primer, it clean and looks less scary. Alcohol is good emergency fuel because burner can be simple and light, even aluminum foil. When flames hit to generator tube, it heating faster. Turn it to wind for that.
Thanks Jari, I know some people use alcohol to prime their Whisperlite stoves. For me bringing alcohol is just one more thing to carry. I don't mind the flame during the process of priming. I've actually come to enjoy it - like my own little campfire before the meal :) However, using alcohol for priming the stove (and only priming, not fueling it) is a good option to know about. Thanks!
What kind of alcohol? Denatured? Or can isopropyl work?
Great video, thanks!
Thanks for watching it!
Is the amount of flame controllable? E.g. can you simmer? Or is the flame one strength the whole time?
Thanks Ariel... Yes, the amount of the flame is controllable, to a point. You can simmer, which is a selling point of the stove, but it's not always the best simmer. Another option, which I do more, is to roll the wind screen a little tighter so I can rest my pan on top of the windscreen which makes it a few inches above the burner. This is how I make pancakes and fry up quesadillas, etc. (sorry, the wind screen is not shown in this video).
@@annieaggens596 oh that makes sense!! Thank you.
Useful!
Thanks Jose!
Thanks for sharing
You bet!
Great video, very informative. Thank you.
Thanks Malcolm. I hope you get to use your stove on an adventure soon!
You are right about over-pressurizing the bottle. Over pressurizing the bottle can make the nosel of the stove spit liquid fuel and would stop vapourizing the liquid into gas.
A very good reason not to over-pressurize. Thank you for sharing!
Roughly how many say 1 litre water boils would you get from a full fuel bottle please?
Hey Richard, it depends on a few factors including the size of the bottle. MSR makes an 11 oz, 20 oz and 30 oz bottle. With the 20 oz bottle, at average outside temperatures you're looking at about 1 hour and 45 minutes of run time,. Typically a litre of water takes a couple of minutes to boil. But in cold temperatures efficiency and fuel consumption will go up a bit.
Don't use music during video it is disruptive to your video
Thanks for the tip! We'll keep it in mind for the future. Hopefully you still got some take-aways.
I wish that these uploads would leave out the background music... It is SO distracting... WE DON'T NEED BACKGROUND MUZAK PLAYING WHEN WATCHING AN INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO.
Thanks for the suggestion.