The big selling point for me, despite all of its drawbacks, is that it's a fantastic value module. You not only get all the drums, but also the mixing, effects, and that big ass filter in 30hp for less than $700. Trying to put something comparable together with individual modules for every voice, the mixer with effects sends, the DJ mixer, could easily run you $2000 and easily take up twice as much rack space. Great video as always, Jeremy
I agree with you there! Even as I barely have anything in my rack I often come back to this module and wonder if I'll get it at some point. It's the value but then also the workflow of having your drums all in one place too. It's almost like for this price if you wanted something like a hihat that you could modulate decay on, you could get one unit to stick along side.
definitely agree best bang for eurorack all in one drum synth module! I use in small 4u case with Eloquencer and 1u mixer effects so good for portable modular techno box.
This was my first and will likely be my last Endorphines module. I do love the QoP, I use the analog drum sounds on nearly every track. But using this thing showed me that I DO NOT vibe with Endorphines design philosophy. I strongly dislike how they setup their CV control, and the signal path has noticeable noise and bleed through issues. It seems that these issues are prevalent on every single one of their modules - it's just how they do things, I guess. An important tip: always sample from the dedicated outs for each voice rather than through the mix. This cuts out the signal path that adds the harsh noise and bleed through. I only use the mix out when I am jamming. For production, you should use the dedicated outs to get the best sound. This review is spot on with my experience - it has many annoying issues, but damn it sounds great when used for big loud drums.
If I want to tune a kick drum with a special tool, I'll just become a drummer 😛 Thank you for the excellent analysis, and also the outro sounds great 👍 PS OMG the cat at the end...either raving or coughing up a hairball!
At 19:55 you mention that there is no CV input for the decay time of samples, but what it DOES have is control over the sample hold time. I found out that the inputs for the samples are actually gates, where the gate time corresponds to the sample hold time. This makes hats wayy more interesting To try this: - get a source with variable gate/decay time. - Set the sample decay to the bare minimum you want to have. - program shorter and longer gates which will correspond to shorter/longer sounds Great review/walkthrough btw!
The filter knob becomes an attenuator for the incoming voltage when something is plugged in. So it doesn't add the knob position to the incoming voltage. Odd design choice, but it explains the behavior. The effects CV inputs work the same way.
such a fantastic drum synth module! I love using Eloquencer for the sequencer to make it easier to sequence and control the 8 voices of the QoP. I have the Ground Control sequencer but that sequencer interface is such a royal PITA to use compared to the Eloquencer.
This has been on my GAS list for some time now, sounds so good. Think it will replace 6 or 7 mods from my drum rack. An I already have SD breakout cable....cost like $3 on eBay. ;-)
I have the Queen of pentacles. and I have the same gripes as you. the only thought experiment that I find worth doing is, would I give up any functionality of the device in exchange for (SD card access, bigger trim pots, whatever) -- hard to say ! ! they put so much emphasis on being performance-oriented, I know they know it is suboptimal to have the SD card on the back and the like.
I would get a ALM squid salmple over this. You can alter the sounds much easier. It has MMF per voice. Wider sound pallet, v/oct on 3 channels. and it’s cheaper.
Yeah the filter really should have had a bigger deadzone. It feels very hard/ almost impossible to get it exactly to neutral. Turning up the resonance kind of compensates for this, like you also kinda mentioned. I have set up a sort of macro knob for the filter. Basically you need 2 offsets mixed together. First turn up the big filter knob all the way, since it acts as an attenuator when cv is plugged in. (I dislike when modules do this btw) The first offset needs to very carefully be increased until the filter is in the neutral/no filtering position. The second offset is then my macro knob with which I can high pass when I increase it. I can then quickly turn down this knob all the way to go back to a neutral/no filtering position. So this way I can only do high pass (or low pass), but I have the advantage to quickly get back to the zero point, which is very useful for performance. I use the top 2 channels of Mutable Shades for this, and this outputs voltage enough to open it all the way. It looks like you did not have the filter knob turned all the way up and therefore your offsets didnt go trough the whole motion of the filter. Again this is because it turns into an attenuator.
thanks for the insights - I'm out at 5.55 - the screwdriver for tuning and an unaccessible SD-Slot for samples - hopefully a MKII Version will fix this.
thanks for the video! for the SD-card inside the module: you could buy a Wifi-SD card (like Toshiba FlashAir) to be able to access it from a computer / phone without the hassle dismounting the unit. I'm doing it with my deluge because I'm lazy. And i can edit it on the fly from my computer or phone.
@@RedMeansRecording This only works for full sized SD cards. Sadly no company makes WiFi Micro SD cards. I've looked into this before and there doesn't seem to be any way to adapt a full size SD card down to a micro SD card slot either to get around it.
Apart from some drawbacks (tuning knobs, card slot, etc) this review sounds mostly positive but I also saw your Erica Synths LXR-02 video and Im wondering how their newly announced LXR drum module, (same engine as the LXR-02 but in Eurorack) might compare 🤔
great video, going dow the rabbit hole thinking of buying the queen of pentacles. Had a separate question, I see the voltage block and I see your running all the outs of the voltage blot onto 2 triatta, is that to have more control over the voltage block and not go directly out of the voltage block ?
Isn't the entire point of a modular synth unit the idea that you can fully customize and control it from the front? I get the motivation behind making it compact but really you shouldn't ever need to take it out of the rack to adjust anything.
With the 'Two of Cups' it's the same, you have to get to the back of the module to enter the SDcard, and I'm so damn annoyed of it especially when samples are damaged during the copy process (what happens a lot with Windows and Micro-SD) it feels like hours to do. I think it depends on your own preference, but if you often want to change samples its sucks like hell
@@joelkulesha8284 you're right, I think this thing offers so much the SD Card can be overseen but it's not impossible. Its also a price thing i think, for example the 'Two of Cups' offers two sample channels but the SD card on the back, the tiptop audio one has the card at the front but only one channel at nearly the same price and module-width
Yeah. I am sorry to say that I am just not going to buy a module that stores samples on a card that can be reached only from the back. I have the black shuttle system, too. A second same-builder row can be built using a Frap Tools case, but it isn’t going to happen for me.
If there's no room for a perpendicular SD card slot, they could even just put a USB jack on the front that functions as a card reader for managing samples.
I love the sounds of endorphin modules but I dislike the layout and ergonomics of most of them. Random locations of i/o that make it hard to access pots and buttons etc
That module was redeemed by that peaches sample! Love your honesty, and as others have resonated, endorphins miss the punchline, too often with all their modules. Promise a lot but don’t deliver and make odd choices for functionality.. (or the lack..) Shame.
Nice drums but have some issuese. In my case it's a bit noisy (if you you use master out instead of individual outputs), and module heats pretty hard on the back side, lower right corner (maybe it's a problem only with my unit) after 30-40 mins of using, and it affects kick sound (it looses punchness and starts to sound shitty ), so i have to use other modules for kick drum in live set situation, cos it's unstable. Wrote twice to endorphines about this problems, 2 years no answer...
This sounds great. But it’s both too big and too small. Anything over maybe 16hp had better have great functions I can get out of something smaller (ie metropolix). And it’s criminal something so big still needs a mini screwdriver to adjust important parameters, or to physically pull out of the rack and turn around. A small amount of menu diving might actually be preferable, not something you say too often!
Also came here to find this out. I've wanted a small, portable oscilloscope for a while. Looks like digdugdiy is sold out ATM, but def gonna watch for more!
When I have the volume fully up on snare and kick the snare is WAY louder and also when both are active at the same time the snare sounds very distorted and crushed, is that normal?
In my experience, volumes are quite different per channel. I need to set the volume of the clap needs way louder than the snare for example. So thats normal I guess, just pick the volumes that you like. The volume knob has a mark at around 2 o'clock. If you set the knob before this, it will sound clean, if you push it further it will sound more distorted. This is intended. You could remove a channel (snare for example) from this pushed distortion by patching it to a different mixer/vca/whatever from the channel output (jacks on the upperside of the unit). This will remove the channel from the main output (and its possible distortion)
@@Jorrissie thank you. I‘m actually routing the kick to a different mixer now and another kick signal to a reverb module just to send it to a lowpass filter and back to the mixer to create a rumble effect and it still sounds cleaner than if I use the madter out with everything mixed inside the module 😄
Maybe it's a safety feature. :D I get really annoyed when I have friends visiting and they find out which knob changes the pitch and start messing with the tuning of my patch.
@@Eeter-of7dz Yeah it's definitely safety since if you accidentally bump your fingers up against a volume knob, it's no big deal, but if you bump into kick tuning or overdrive you can really fuck your shit up especially live which this is catered for.
I've only demoed this module in a store a few times now, but you definitely don't need a screwdriver to adjust those short trim pot knobs. I have fat fingers (and thus often get annoyed at close knob spacing in Eurorack), but I managed to twist the knobs with my fingers just fine. I think Jeremy just wanted to use a screwdriver for comfort and precision. Not the easiest to perform with but it's doable. I'd probably still offload the overdrive/kick tuning to other modules if I wanted that aspect to be performable/modulatable.
I remember a decade ago they had wifi sd cards for cameras - I wonder if they still exist and if they work as a straight up file transfer.. hmmm - still very odd it's sealed in there... security maybe if you're performing live? But yeah how hard is it to have an enclosure over the slot if you want to cover it.. so weird SDcard extenders are a thing too but requires more customization or if you're cool with a ribbon cable hanging out lol
Too compromised. It's fine if you want to have a 'defined sound' and don't deviate but I want to be able to tune. I want to be able to have control of each drum. Shame.
The big selling point for me, despite all of its drawbacks, is that it's a fantastic value module. You not only get all the drums, but also the mixing, effects, and that big ass filter in 30hp for less than $700. Trying to put something comparable together with individual modules for every voice, the mixer with effects sends, the DJ mixer, could easily run you $2000 and easily take up twice as much rack space.
Great video as always, Jeremy
I agree with you there! Even as I barely have anything in my rack I often come back to this module and wonder if I'll get it at some point. It's the value but then also the workflow of having your drums all in one place too. It's almost like for this price if you wanted something like a hihat that you could modulate decay on, you could get one unit to stick along side.
definitely agree best bang for eurorack all in one drum synth module! I use in small 4u case with Eloquencer and 1u mixer effects so good for portable modular techno box.
This was my first and will likely be my last Endorphines module. I do love the QoP, I use the analog drum sounds on nearly every track. But using this thing showed me that I DO NOT vibe with Endorphines design philosophy. I strongly dislike how they setup their CV control, and the signal path has noticeable noise and bleed through issues. It seems that these issues are prevalent on every single one of their modules - it's just how they do things, I guess.
An important tip: always sample from the dedicated outs for each voice rather than through the mix. This cuts out the signal path that adds the harsh noise and bleed through. I only use the mix out when I am jamming. For production, you should use the dedicated outs to get the best sound.
This review is spot on with my experience - it has many annoying issues, but damn it sounds great when used for big loud drums.
I was not ready for the teaches of Peaches.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
If I want to tune a kick drum with a special tool, I'll just become a drummer 😛 Thank you for the excellent analysis, and also the outro sounds great 👍 PS OMG the cat at the end...either raving or coughing up a hairball!
That outro is AMAZING! This thing drops so hard, oh my god! Thanks RMR!
Great video like always! Fun jams, good vibes. Love hearing the flaws and gripes too. Such a fun module and amazing sounding drums.
7:40 filled me with an unreasonable amount of joy. thank you.
No CV over sample decay 🙀 deal breaker
Great video, thanks for sharing. Will stick with keeping my drums non modular for now.
At 19:55 you mention that there is no CV input for the decay time of samples, but what it DOES have is control over the sample hold time. I found out that the inputs for the samples are actually gates, where the gate time corresponds to the sample hold time. This makes hats wayy more interesting To try this:
- get a source with variable gate/decay time.
- Set the sample decay to the bare minimum you want to have.
- program shorter and longer gates which will correspond to shorter/longer sounds
Great review/walkthrough btw!
thats all you need for your next industrial-performance ❤️
That's one of the best thumbnails I've ever seen
Perfect timing! Mine should be arriving in a couple of days!
Screwdriver crew, commin thru, in 92!
Thank you for the context part. Yes.
The filter knob becomes an attenuator for the incoming voltage when something is plugged in. So it doesn't add the knob position to the incoming voltage. Odd design choice, but it explains the behavior. The effects CV inputs work the same way.
Oh!
such a fantastic drum synth module! I love using Eloquencer for the sequencer to make it easier to sequence and control the 8 voices of the QoP. I have the Ground Control sequencer but that sequencer interface is such a royal PITA to use compared to the Eloquencer.
I just noticed the thumbnail you made for this awesome candid video.
That thumbnail has me alternating between guffahs and dry heaving.
That is a magnificent thumbnail you have there Jeremy
But but but -- where'd you get that little waveform display?!? 😭
Great video as always, J. Much love!
Dig dug on etsy
@@RedMeansRecording 😃❤️ Thanks!! 😁
This has been on my GAS list for some time now, sounds so good. Think it will replace 6 or 7 mods from my drum rack. An I already have SD breakout cable....cost like $3 on eBay. ;-)
uh great! you saved my ass ahaha
Sounds gigantic!
It sounds amazing
I have the Queen of pentacles. and I have the same gripes as you. the only thought experiment that I find worth doing is, would I give up any functionality of the device in exchange for (SD card access, bigger trim pots, whatever) -- hard to say ! ! they put so much emphasis on being performance-oriented, I know they know it is suboptimal to have the SD card on the back and the like.
Jeremy: Before we do that tho, let's talk about
Me: THAT INCREDIBLY ADORABLE LITTLE WAVEFORM DISPLAY??
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I would get a ALM squid salmple over this. You can alter the sounds much easier. It has MMF per voice. Wider sound pallet, v/oct on 3 channels. and it’s cheaper.
Yeah the filter really should have had a bigger deadzone. It feels very hard/ almost impossible to get it exactly to neutral. Turning up the resonance kind of compensates for this, like you also kinda mentioned.
I have set up a sort of macro knob for the filter. Basically you need 2 offsets mixed together. First turn up the big filter knob all the way, since it acts as an attenuator when cv is plugged in. (I dislike when modules do this btw) The first offset needs to very carefully be increased until the filter is in the neutral/no filtering position. The second offset is then my macro knob with which I can high pass when I increase it. I can then quickly turn down this knob all the way to go back to a neutral/no filtering position. So this way I can only do high pass (or low pass), but I have the advantage to quickly get back to the zero point, which is very useful for performance.
I use the top 2 channels of Mutable Shades for this, and this outputs voltage enough to open it all the way. It looks like you did not have the filter knob turned all the way up and therefore your offsets didnt go trough the whole motion of the filter. Again this is because it turns into an attenuator.
thanks for the insights - I'm out at 5.55 - the screwdriver for tuning and an unaccessible SD-Slot for samples - hopefully a MKII Version will fix this.
Nice bracelet! 🐾
QD is my fav!!
thanks for the video! for the SD-card inside the module: you could buy a Wifi-SD card (like Toshiba FlashAir) to be able to access it from a computer / phone without the hassle dismounting the unit. I'm doing it with my deluge because I'm lazy. And i can edit it on the fly from my computer or phone.
Great tip
@@RedMeansRecording This only works for full sized SD cards. Sadly no company makes WiFi Micro SD cards. I've looked into this before and there doesn't seem to be any way to adapt a full size SD card down to a micro SD card slot either to get around it.
I WISH we had something like a Patchweks where I live.
The peaches reference made me want to rewatch lost in translation
what's that little blue oscilloscope?
How does an octopus write?
With its pen-tacles.
Apart from some drawbacks (tuning knobs, card slot, etc) this review sounds mostly positive but I also saw your Erica Synths LXR-02 video and Im wondering how their newly announced LXR drum module, (same engine as the LXR-02 but in Eurorack) might compare 🤔
Lxr is a digital drum synth with a highly unintuitive interface
While this is a 909 clone with a good interface
great video, going dow the rabbit hole thinking of buying the queen of pentacles. Had a separate question, I see the voltage block and I see your running all the outs of the voltage blot onto 2 triatta, is that to have more control over the voltage block and not go directly out of the voltage block ?
What's the name of the little wave form oscillograph box on the bottom?
Isn't the entire point of a modular synth unit the idea that you can fully customize and control it from the front? I get the motivation behind making it compact but really you shouldn't ever need to take it out of the rack to adjust anything.
Sadly you just can't fit everything in. Gotta have compromises.
With the 'Two of Cups' it's the same, you have to get to the back of the module to enter the SDcard, and I'm so damn annoyed of it especially when samples are damaged during the copy process (what happens a lot with Windows and Micro-SD) it feels like hours to do. I think it depends on your own preference, but if you often want to change samples its sucks like hell
@@joelkulesha8284 you're right, I think this thing offers so much the SD Card can be overseen but it's not impossible. Its also a price thing i think, for example the 'Two of Cups' offers two sample channels but the SD card on the back, the tiptop audio one has the card at the front but only one channel at nearly the same price and module-width
Yeah. I am sorry to say that I am just not going to buy a module that stores samples on a card that can be reached only from the back. I have the black shuttle system, too. A second same-builder row can be built using a Frap Tools case, but it isn’t going to happen for me.
If there's no room for a perpendicular SD card slot, they could even just put a USB jack on the front that functions as a card reader for managing samples.
Hey, awesome video. Can I ask where you got the little waveform viewer screen thing from?
I've been to Patchwerks.
Peaches!!!!!!!!
Awesome demo!
I love the sounds of endorphin modules but I dislike the layout and ergonomics of most of them. Random locations of i/o that make it hard to access pots and buttons etc
So what's that beautiful blue VU meter??? I don't believe it's in the gear listed.
(okay, it's not a VU meter; but maybe it can be)
Dig dug diy on Etsy
Nevermind :) Anyone else looking, it's the Digdugdiy Soundwave III OLED Display Spectrum Analyzer
that is pretty fuckin cool actually
Yeah
That module was redeemed by that peaches sample! Love your honesty, and as others have resonated, endorphins miss the punchline, too often with all their modules. Promise a lot but don’t deliver and make odd choices for functionality.. (or the lack..) Shame.
The spoiler knob actually doesn’t affect the kick. it only affects the snare and clap.
Correct
The techno sound is fun, might need to build a new rack.
Nice drums but have some issuese. In my case it's a bit noisy (if you you use master out instead of individual outputs), and module heats pretty hard on the back side, lower right corner (maybe it's a problem only with my unit) after 30-40 mins of using, and it affects kick sound (it looses punchness and starts to sound shitty ), so i have to use other modules for kick drum in live set situation, cos it's unstable. Wrote twice to endorphines about this problems, 2 years no answer...
This sounds great. But it’s both too big and too small. Anything over maybe 16hp had better have great functions I can get out of something smaller (ie metropolix). And it’s criminal something so big still needs a mini screwdriver to adjust important parameters, or to physically pull out of the rack and turn around. A small amount of menu diving might actually be preferable, not something you say too often!
What’s the cute little portable led audio graph?
Voice recorder maybe? Curious as well
www.etsy.com/shop/digdugDIY
Also came here to find this out. I've wanted a small, portable oscilloscope for a while. Looks like digdugdiy is sold out ATM, but def gonna watch for more!
What is that little oscilloscope
i passed when i saw the screwdriver and that sd is hidden..pass
Watched cause of the thumbnail. Came cause of the teaches of peaches 😩
whats the module with the 3 screens between pamelas new workout and soleo vero ? cant find it :D
Paratek
completely unrelated but i always mistaken red means recording into *red beans recording* every time you say the intro haha
(beans)
What do You think about of The Stéréo Trigger Sample please?
It's ok. I used it for a bit.
Insta-Thumbs-Up.
the thumbnail💀☠️
When I have the volume fully up on snare and kick the snare is WAY louder and also when both are active at the same time the snare sounds very distorted and crushed, is that normal?
Yes
In my experience, volumes are quite different per channel. I need to set the volume of the clap needs way louder than the snare for example. So thats normal I guess, just pick the volumes that you like.
The volume knob has a mark at around 2 o'clock. If you set the knob before this, it will sound clean, if you push it further it will sound more distorted. This is intended.
You could remove a channel (snare for example) from this pushed distortion by patching it to a different mixer/vca/whatever from the channel output (jacks on the upperside of the unit). This will remove the channel from the main output (and its possible distortion)
@@Jorrissie thank you. I‘m actually routing the kick to a different mixer now and another kick signal to a reverb module just to send it to a lowpass filter and back to the mixer to create a rumble effect and it still sounds cleaner than if I use the madter out with everything mixed inside the module 😄
sounds good but the tuning with a screwdriver makes those knobs especially the drive not performable, which is a no go..
Maybe it's a safety feature. :D I get really annoyed when I have friends visiting and they find out which knob changes the pitch and start messing with the tuning of my patch.
@@Eeter-of7dz Yeah it's definitely safety since if you accidentally bump your fingers up against a volume knob, it's no big deal, but if you bump into kick tuning or overdrive you can really fuck your shit up especially live which this is catered for.
I've only demoed this module in a store a few times now, but you definitely don't need a screwdriver to adjust those short trim pot knobs. I have fat fingers (and thus often get annoyed at close knob spacing in Eurorack), but I managed to twist the knobs with my fingers just fine. I think Jeremy just wanted to use a screwdriver for comfort and precision.
Not the easiest to perform with but it's doable. I'd probably still offload the overdrive/kick tuning to other modules if I wanted that aspect to be performable/modulatable.
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I remember a decade ago they had wifi sd cards for cameras - I wonder if they still exist and if they work as a straight up file transfer.. hmmm - still very odd it's sealed in there... security maybe if you're performing live? But yeah how hard is it to have an enclosure over the slot if you want to cover it.. so weird
SDcard extenders are a thing too but requires more customization or if you're cool with a ribbon cable hanging out lol
IIRC Endorphines said it was to stop people swiping the SD cards in a live gig, but it is kinda annoying to deal with.
oh you know what a wifi card might be a great ideas!
That's a very interesting idea, know any WiFi Micro SD Cards? I only know of normal SDs
Yes and people use them in the deluge
Too compromised. It's fine if you want to have a 'defined sound' and don't deviate but I want to be able to tune. I want to be able to have control of each drum. Shame.
Just here because of the clickbait picture 😘