you can barely see the "door" lettering, so imagine a old man or woman trying to board and she or he sees this label and thinks the entire train is out of order. LMFAO
The train's already delayed for 10 minutes at this point, pretty sure the passengers would want the crappy sign than to wait 5 more minutes to find station staff to hand letter one up.
I was so excited when I ticked off the Sprinter and Super Sprinter in my I-spy railways book, I was so bored with the HST's we get around here. How naive I was as a child.
I do remember thinking I "didn't deserve" an InterCity HST to get back from Wigan to Preston... I think they actually *prefer* you to get the "big train".
The song used in this video is "Final Signal" by Space. I presume that someone may have pointed this out already, however, so you can call this a "no s**t, Sherlock" moment if you wish.
Wow! Very similar with Class 315 when it was new in 1980s. 315s has drivers (front) and guards (rear). Sadly of 315s being scrapped but hopfully one unit should saved. I'm not sure about modern London Underground trains but they got CCTV screens in drive cabs.
"hello panel this the driver of 155 307 i need fitters to the next station please" I know its only for instructions but if you as the driver rang up the signalling centre and said that the signaller wouldn't know who you were and only knew of your position because of track circuits, as the correct procedure would of been hello panel this is the driver of 2G83 for example, at least it gives the signaller a heads up to who you are.. 155 307 means nothing to a signaller... he or she doesn't know what's been allocated to that set all they know services by is headcodes.. EDITED: Actually it would of been "hello signaller this the driver of 2G83 standing at signal (example) Bravo Tango 5 5".. him not following the procedure would of ended up being picked up everytime he has to go for a review, basically in train driving terms every year or two you go for evaluation to check your following the rules, you know what your doing, you know the routes etc, and that may of meant he failed that part of the test and it would of been picked up by a manager and gone through retraining to requalify him a train driver. It's like a car licence but its validlity is shortened...
One of these turned up one Saturday night at M/cr Picc and I was given it for the New Mills service.....we were turned back at Bredbury because of a problem further up the line. Then an engine stopped on the way back.....When I got back I had it taken to Longsight DED. After this I drove quite a few 153s but never another 155.
That is literally the definition of the railway 🤣 you would be surprised on how many faults can be fixed by just repeating the same process until it eventually plays balls 🤣
Well I saw a "super sprinter" (156405) on the Derby - Crewe line last week at Tutbury and Hatton station, still in Welsh livery. So these "old" trains are still serving passengers in May 2023.
The guard probably had a couple of pints before shift, a couple of pints on lunch and a few more after. Don't mess with them. Especially Welsh drivers and guards. The crews based at Swansea would knock your teeth out just asking about a timetable.
@@JackJackProductionsShorts 153's used to be 155's, so technically he's right. They were converted in the early 90's. 150's and 158's are still used here too.
A few years ago (~2019) I heard someone at Leeds station ask the Northern staff if the 155 I was sat on was the London train. 😂 "No love, big red train, platform 6, over the bridge, you've got about 10 minutes" 👍
thumpergriddle123 You mean slam doors, right? It's not just MK1s that have the slam doors, did you know some MK2 stock was built with the slam doors as well?
Are you sure? As far as I have herd, Classes 310 and 312 were multiple units. Also, MK3 coaches are strictly for the HST class 43 / class 253, 254, 255 units. As for multiple units, what about Classes 317, 318, 455, 442, 319, 210, 150, 450. Also, there's a subsection of MK3a coaches which are, in fact, loco hauled and are not compatible with the MK3 coach. Yeah, a lot of multiple unit variations can be built from regular coaches, at least, the design of them.
Just a thought: During the section where it talks about the interlock bulb failing in the button, if the guard were to test the signal button wouldn't that introduce a risk that the driver could mistake that as a signal to leave? Except if it was pressed once.
The conductor isn't testing, he's ignoring the light. You see the conductor giving the 2 bells, meaning ready to start. If everything is fine, the train leaves just as he intended.
@matthewellis9885 if the signal buzzer doesnt make a buzz that means the interlock light hasnt failed and that the doors arent locked, if it makes a buzz that means the doors are locked and the bulb has failed
@@tionstav5799 fun pacer fact: they cost more to maintain than sprinters. BR would've been better off in every way if they'd just ordered more sprinters.
Spotted a driver mistake! When driving, the headlight was illuminated on the drivers side. This must only be done at night, not during the day. Should be illuminated on the other side during the day.
They do actually. The outer thinner lights (marker lights) are always on and the main headlight (depending whether it is day or night) is either on the left or the right hand side. Driver's side is night running and other side is day running.
4:03 I love how unbelievably crap the "appropriate label" is.
karlr42 - I know lol.
you can barely see the "door" lettering, so imagine a old man or woman trying to board and she or he sees this label and thinks the entire train is out of order. LMFAO
The train's already delayed for 10 minutes at this point, pretty sure the passengers would want the crappy sign than to wait 5 more minutes to find station staff to hand letter one up.
I was so excited when I ticked off the Sprinter and Super Sprinter in my I-spy railways book, I was so bored with the HST's we get around here. How naive I was as a child.
I do remember thinking I "didn't deserve" an InterCity HST to get back from Wigan to Preston...
I think they actually *prefer* you to get the "big train".
ah yes, the 80's era music in the intro....very relaxing.
It's 70s
@@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881late 70s, the music (Final Signal by Space) was released in 1979.
Dropping outrageous beats on training vids
Guy getting off at 7:18 flexing hand that got stuck in the door 😋
Oh look someone working trackside without safety boots, cat 3 hi vis or a helmet. Amazing he survived 😂
The guard looks well dodgy.
+haddockman30 He's more forehead than man.
There's a bag here. I'll nick it. I'm a little bit waaaay, little bit wooow.
The tractor in the background!
The song used in this video is "Final Signal" by Space. I presume that someone may have pointed this out already, however, so you can call this a "no s**t, Sherlock" moment if you wish.
Is it or is the solution to any problem on these trains just 'try it again and see what happens'?
Wow! Very similar with Class 315 when it was new in 1980s. 315s has drivers (front) and guards (rear). Sadly of 315s being scrapped but hopfully one unit should saved. I'm not sure about modern London Underground trains but they got CCTV screens in drive cabs.
NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP
Man that livery was ahead of it's time and still looks very good today
the introduction music is so exciting.
It's very futuristic. Would also go well with the infamous British Rail patented flying saucer.
ruclips.net/video/2O01MbZWPyA/видео.html is the music used! Its not a bad piece
"hello panel this the driver of 155 307 i need fitters to the next station please"
I know its only for instructions but if you as the driver rang up the signalling centre and said that the signaller wouldn't know who you were and only knew of your position because of track circuits, as the correct procedure would of been hello panel this is the driver of 2G83 for example, at least it gives the signaller a heads up to who you are.. 155 307 means nothing to a signaller... he or she doesn't know what's been allocated to that set all they know services by is headcodes..
EDITED:
Actually it would of been "hello signaller this the driver of 2G83 standing at signal (example) Bravo Tango 5 5".. him not following the procedure would of ended up being picked up everytime he has to go for a review, basically in train driving terms every year or two you go for evaluation to check your following the rules, you know what your doing, you know the routes etc, and that may of meant he failed that part of the test and it would of been picked up by a manager and gone through retraining to requalify him a train driver. It's like a car licence but its validlity is shortened...
One of these turned up one Saturday night at M/cr Picc and I was given it for the New Mills service.....we were turned back at Bredbury because of a problem further up the line. Then an engine stopped on the way back.....When I got back I had it taken to Longsight DED. After this I drove quite a few 153s but never another 155.
The 155 door is a guillotine. The 153... I got time for it.
TLDW; If you can't interlock, just keep opening and closing the doors, hopefully everything sort of works
That is literally the definition of the railway 🤣
That is literally the definition of the railway 🤣 you would be surprised on how many faults can be fixed by just repeating the same process until it eventually plays balls 🤣
i just love british 80s train
Well I saw a "super sprinter" (156405) on the Derby - Crewe line last week at Tutbury and Hatton station, still in Welsh livery. So these "old" trains are still serving passengers in May 2023.
the guard looks such a dork
Jerry Lawrence your a dork
Don't mess with the guards or they might beat you up
The guard probably had a couple of pints before shift, a couple of pints on lunch and a few more after. Don't mess with them. Especially Welsh drivers and guards. The crews based at Swansea would knock your teeth out just asking about a timetable.
12:04 you could have just used the gangway to cross into the other unit
I think the door to the other unit is locked from the inside
Great old film of these units at Newport Cardiff and canton depot they are still in use here in South Wales nearly 35 years later 🏴
155s aren't used in South Wales. 153s are used in South Wales.
@@JackJackProductionsShorts 153's used to be 155's, so technically he's right. They were converted in the early 90's. 150's and 158's are still used here too.
We had a 156 in Welsh livery on the Derby to Crewe line a few weeks ago. So the super sprinters certainly made it to Wales.
A few years ago (~2019) I heard someone at Leeds station ask the Northern staff if the 155 I was sat on was the London train. 😂
"No love, big red train, platform 6, over the bridge, you've got about 10 minutes" 👍
5:17 😂
That Is A Leyland Sprinter Train, Only The Driving Trailers Are Built, Rarely There Was An Intermediate Carriage
Classed As “155” By British Rail
A Leyland Sprinter Carriage Set
Lavatories Available Per Carriage
Driving Trailer
Passenger Carriage
Catering Carriage
Disability Space Carriage
Whatever
MotorCoaches (Classed As: “153”)
Passenger (Catering, Luggage, Etc.)
Driving Trailer (Catering, Luggage, Etc.) Built
Intermediate (Catering, Luggage, Etc.)
Switcher-Head DT Pair
DT Consists
DT / DTL
DTs Only
DTLs Only
Triple Header (3DTs Or 3DTLs)
DT Pair + DTL
DTL Pair + DT
Quad Header (4DTs Or 4DTLs)
DT Pair + DTL Pair
Triple Header + DTL
Triple Lavatory Header + DT
Five Driving Trailers (Various Arr.)
Six Driving Trailers (Various Arr.)
Sief Driving Trailers (Various Arr.)
Eight Driving Trailers (Various Arr.)
Etc.
Consists
Triple Unit (3 Carriages)
6 Carriage Division
9 Carriage Division
8 DTs + 4 Cars
5 Triple Units
6 Triple Units
7 Triple Units
8 Triple Units
Quad Unit (4 Carriages)
4 DTs + 4 Cars
6 DTs + 6 Cars
8 DTs + 8 Cars
5 Quad Units
6 Quad Units
5 Carriages
5 + 5 Carriages
5 + 5 + 5 Carriages
4 x 5 Carriages
5 x 5 Carriages
6 Carriages
4 DTs + 8 Cars
6 + 6 + 6 Carriages
6+6+6+6 Carriages
And So On
I Use Base Twelve By The Way
0 = Zero, 1 = One, 2 = Two, 3 = Three
4 = Four, 5 = Five, 6 = Six, 7 = Sief
8 = Eight, 9 = Nine, ᘔ = Ten, [] = Eleven
10 = Twelve (X)
11 = Ele'elve (Thirteen Is One Left From Twelve)
12 = Twense (Twensen (Twains O’ Seven): Twen (2) x Sen (7) = “14” In Decimal)
And So On
Eight (8) Is The Only Single Digit Numeral In The English Language To Have Twice A Syllable (Unless You Count Zero (0) Which Is Also Known As Nil, Nought, Etc.)
Eleven ([]) Is The Only Single Digit Numeral In The English Language To Have An Archaic Spell Of Syllables
0 = Zero, 1 = One, 2 = Two, 3 = Three
4 = Four, 5 = Five, 6 = Six, 7 = Sief
8 = Eahten, 9 = Nine, ᘔ = Ten, [] = Ele’en
10 = Twelve
11 = Ele’elve
12 = Twense
And So On
Syllable Numerals
0 = Nought, 1 = One, 2 = Two
3 = Three, 4 = Four, 5 = Five (Fif)
6 = Six, 7 = Sief, 8 = Eight
9 = Nine, ᘔ = Ten, [] = Ele'en
X = Twelf, E = Elelf, 10 = Twense
Numerals (Twice Syllables)
0 = Zero, 1 = Ainen, 2 = Twe’en
3 = Thiren, 4 = Foren, 5 = Fiven
6 = Sixen, 7 = Seven, 8 = Eahten
9 = Ni’en, ᘔ = Te’en, [] = Eleven
10 = Twelven
11 = Ele’elven
12 = Twensen
And So On
Twensenal Counting System
0 = Zero, 1 = One, 2 = Two, 3 = Three
4 = Four, 5 = Five, 6 = Six, 7 = Sief
8 = Eight, 9 = Nine, ᘔ = Ten, [] = Eleven
---------------------
X = Twelve, Ɛ = Ele’elve, 10 = Twensen
And So On
Old English Numerals
0 = Nōwiht, 1 = Ān, 2 = Tƿen, 3 = Þrī
4 = Fēoƿer, 5 = Fīf, 6 = Six, 7 = Sīef
8 = Eahton, 9 = Nigen, ᘔ = Tēġen, [] = Eleofon
10 = Twelf
11 = Endleolf
12 = Twensig
And So On
German Numerals
0 = Null, 1 = Ein, 2 = Zwei, 3 = Drei
4 = Vier, 5 = Fünf, 6 = Sechs, 7 = Sieb
8 = Acht, 9 = Neun, ᘔ = Zei, [] = Elieben
10 = Zehlf
11 = Elf
12 = Zwölf
And So On
French Numerals
0 = Zéro, 1 = Un, 2 = Deux, 3 = Trois
4 = Quatre, 5 = Cinq, 6 = Trebis, 7 = Six
8 = Oct, 9 = Nuin, ᘔ = Deque, [] = Elette
10 = Dix
11 = Onze
12 = Douze
And So On
Douzaine = Twensen
Dozen = Twense
Spanish Numerals
0 = Ceros, 1 = Unos, 2 = Dos, 3 = Tres
4 = Cuatro, 5 = Cinco, 6 = Ces, 7 = Seis
8 = Oite, 9 = Noño, ᘔ = Deche, [] = Eliete
10 = Diez
11 = Once
12 = Doce
And So On
Italian Numerals
0 = Zero, 1 = Uno, 2 = Duo,
3 = Tre, 4 = Quattro, 5 = Cinque
6 = Trido, 7 = Sei, 8 = Otte
9 = Novo, ᘔ = Deice, [] = Elene
10 = Dieni
11 = Undini
12 = Dodini
And So On
Latin Numerals
0 = Nullus, 1 = Unus, 2 = Deus, 3 = Trius
4 = Quadrus, 5 = Quinctus, 6 = Trebi, 7 = Seni
8 = Octem, 9 = Novem, ᘔ = Decem, [] = Elenem
10 = Denem
11 = Undenem
12 = Duodenem
And So On
Grecian Numerals
0 = Mideno, 1 = Mono, 2 = Di, 3 = Tri
4 = Quad, 5 = Penta, 6 = Treda, 7 = Hepta
8 = Octa, 9 = Nono, ᘔ = Deca, [] = Elenea
10 = Dena
11 = Hendena
12 = Dodena
Is that Postman Pat? Jesus...he must have been rich with 2 jobs on the go! How did he find the time?! lol
Must be his black and white cat doin' the post
this is why i like working on a heritage railway with MK1 doors it's alot essayer
thumpergriddle123 You mean slam doors, right? It's not just MK1s that have the slam doors, did you know some MK2 stock was built with the slam doors as well?
+Ben 1337 *All Mk2 and Mk3
Loco-hauled coaches, yes, but multiple units are a different story.
Ben 1337 Mk2's and Mk3's are loco-only
Are you sure? As far as I have herd, Classes 310 and 312 were multiple units.
Also, MK3 coaches are strictly for the HST class 43 / class 253, 254, 255 units.
As for multiple units, what about Classes 317, 318, 455, 442, 319, 210, 150, 450.
Also, there's a subsection of MK3a coaches which are, in fact, loco hauled and are not compatible with the MK3 coach.
Yeah, a lot of multiple unit variations can be built from regular coaches, at least, the design of them.
Was that guard a village person? how very 80's he is!
Oh the music
looks like Cardiff.
it does !
I believe the depot is Cardiff (Canton), but they were definitely at Newport in the earlier part of the film.
Sounds like it too!
Interesting that the guard's door doesn't count for the Interlock signal here.
All PASSENGER doors (not GD)
around 2:20 i do not belive they follow this to this date
5:20 JUST NO
XD
Whats the intro music?
Shit, that’s what it is
Space: Final signal
And they want to do away with guards......
is it me but do all sprinters except class 150s the units have bowed
Just a thought: During the section where it talks about the interlock bulb failing in the button, if the guard were to test the signal button wouldn't that introduce a risk that the driver could mistake that as a signal to leave? Except if it was pressed once.
35 years to late to suggest ideas ha
@@longbar2344 Fair point. I wasn't even alive then 🤣
The conductor isn't testing, he's ignoring the light. You see the conductor giving the 2 bells, meaning ready to start. If everything is fine, the train leaves just as he intended.
@matthewellis9885 if the signal buzzer doesnt make a buzz that means the interlock light hasnt failed and that the doors arent locked, if it makes a buzz that means the doors are locked and the bulb has failed
Why isn’t there a button to open all the doors at once
On both sides of the train…? vanishingly few stations have platforms on both sides
@@RoamingAdhocrat no, All doors on one side open at once instead of just being unlocked and then passengers open them individually
has to be be the worst of the Sprinter types IMHO
At least its not a pacer!
@@tionstav5799 fun pacer fact: they cost more to maintain than sprinters. BR would've been better off in every way if they'd just ordered more sprinters.
@@RoamingAdhocrat Pacers don't cost anything to maintain now...
@@bfapplebecause they er gone I get it
Spotted a driver mistake! When driving, the headlight was illuminated on the drivers side. This must only be done at night, not during the day. Should be illuminated on the other side during the day.
They do actually. The outer thinner lights (marker lights) are always on and the main headlight (depending whether it is day or night) is either on the left or the right hand side. Driver's side is night running and other side is day running.
Why is that the rule? Does it really make a difference (especially with modern headlamps)?
The night running headlight is brighter, so is better to see in the dark, whereas the day running is just so people can see the train approaching.
I can't say I've noticed a difference on, say, a Class 444 between the two main headlights.
Well, I don't really notice the difference either, but that is what it is meant to be for.