Garmin can’t deliver good software to save their life. They just release new products with new issues. Unfortunately, they don’t have a lot of competition in many of their product groups so they remain the best option.
I replaced my 660 with the XT2 about a year ago. I love the XT2 as a GPS unit. It's hard to believe, but I think the Tread app may actually be worse than Basecamp. The unit does work well with my phone, though, giving media and alerts. Unfortunately, the alerts are turned on and off by category, not per app, which is a major pain.
Exactly! Switching from phone navigation to Garmin device is complicated as f***! Trip, track, route, 29 points, convert to something else, re-calculation! I was preparing for the trip longer than it lasted!😫
Can’t get over the price. I hate using my phone (camera shaking to death, battery discharging faster than it charges, ~110F Texas summers causing the phone to shutdown), but the zumo price is brutal.
Huh This isn’t a product description . This is a genuine review with its strengths and flaws. Not interested in anything off-road but I rally(😂) appreciate being honest about the short comings of the product. Good job guys
yeah, every single RevZilla review should be like this -- often they note a couple flaws, but this was a little more real. Since it seems to be the only game around, I'm still thinking on it, but with more reluctance and hesitation.
I looked hard at this and liked Garmin from 20 and 10 yrs ago. However, I just ordered the Samsung Rugged Active5 tablet (could have gotten the Active3 tablet) and will load the various SW apps on it. Arrives tomm.
Garmin's prices are insane. Even the older XT is over-priced. I come from the tech world so I know the cost of manufacturing and the XT/XT2 devices should easily be in the $400 range. So 'Big G' is charging you for software too essentially. And why not? They have ZERO competition really. Since I have no off-road experience, I'll say that as far as street riding goes, the biggest problem is that Garmin's software is total user hostile garbage. I've had numerous Garmin GPS devices over the years and I stopped using them bc car navigation systems are better. For the on-road motorcycle, using your phone is easier, cheaper and makes more sense if you do it right. Get a good phone mount that offers anti-vibration (sometimes I don't mount it, I just keep it in my breast pocket and use earbuds or a Cardo) and simply download a very large area of maps so you don't need to rely on cell towers if you do travel to areas without a signal. Example - I keep a 5 state area on my phone at all times and Google Maps updates it regularly and automatically. I haven't needed a Garmin in years. For off-road, a Garmin is probably critical but for the streets....no.
Phone doesn’t work in the south in the summer. All it does overheat and the screen goes dim to preserve the battery. GPS is the only option for me. It’s also nice that the Zumo touchscreen works easily with gloves.
Disappointing overview. Main features of the XT2 vs XT1 weren't even mentioned: • visual on-device route planning • popular moto paths map overlay (I use this quite a bit) • ability to host group/connected rides
If what is meant by "visual on device route planning" is the ability create a route by panning and zooming around/in the main map screen by tapping the locations of successive waypoints to create a route on the fly, this can in fact be done on the XT1. The result of interactively doing the above becomes the current active route being navigated (and the route gets recalculated after each new waypoint is added). This Active Route can be viewed at any point in the Trip Planner under "My Active Route". As you tap on the map to successively and interactively add waypoints (tap a new waypoint location and hit Go!) you will be prompted as to where in the active route you want to add it. That said, in order to do detailed edits of the partial or final result beyond just adding waypoints (or not lose the resulting active route accidentally) you will want to go into the Trip Planner, tap on My Active Route and tap Save. You can then safely proceed to edit or rearrange points in detail without losing your work if you screw up as in the case of a mistake in editing (or terminating by accident) the My Active Route. Hope that helps clarify that the XT1 does in fact have visual, on the fly interactive route creation (similar to what phone based apps like InRoute or Scenic have albeit not nearly as polished or comprehensive.) I have not yet had access to an XT2 to see how it differs from the XT1 for visual route planning (or if its better or more polished) but the XT1 does have this feature.
You’re riding not programming a computer for a Mars mission. Why don’t these companies make an Apple CarPlay like simple interface with access to your other apps. That’s why the mobile is popular, simple and works
I’ve taken the older version the Zumo XT on multiple dirt trails and a 2500 mile round trip for a BDR. It was fine & I’ve had it 4 years now. But, the way my Zumo is mounted is sitting behind the windshield on my GSA. So no direct dust is being forced toward the unit.
You mentioned the Zumo XT2 has GLONASS capability. What are u basing that statement on? Garmin's literature only mentions GPS and Galileo, neither the GLONASS or BeiDou constellations are supported.
Just purchased a new Zumo 396 for $225 because I just cant possibly justify $500 for the XT2 or even $400 for the XT. I'm sure the newer ones are nicer but for how I want to use it I think the 396 will serve me 80% as well for half the cost.
Every updated GPS unit costs more but contains less features than the previous unit. I am still running the Garmin Zumo 665 with XM Radio (that doesn't work now), and audio output jacks which this XT2 does not have. Fucking useless if you can't use hard wired ear buds. You can't hear the instructions with Bluetooth helmets at speeds above 10 MPH. And Bluetooth ear buds don't stay on without a continuous signal as with a radio.
This "review" was utter useless, complete waste of my time. Either do an attempt or dont do it! This should just have been an unboxing video, there was NO of the relevant information that I was seeking.
Dang dude, maybe take a walk and a few slow breaths. RevZilla goes over the features of products to help people learn more about the product, I'd hardly call a brand doing that exact same thing for 15 years on RUclips "marketing influencers promoting their channel". Enjoy the free content and take it a bit less serious.
Then I would suggest you do an instructional video on how to make a route and get to the GPS in a streamlined way. Not everyone is as brilliant as you are!
why can’t they deliver a device that justifies its price? yes, they are the best out there so far but that is not the reason to charge 600 bucks for an outdated crap.
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Garmin can’t deliver good software to save their life. They just release new products with new issues. Unfortunately, they don’t have a lot of competition in many of their product groups so they remain the best option.
I replaced my 660 with the XT2 about a year ago. I love the XT2 as a GPS unit. It's hard to believe, but I think the Tread app may actually be worse than Basecamp. The unit does work well with my phone, though, giving media and alerts. Unfortunately, the alerts are turned on and off by category, not per app, which is a major pain.
Exactly! Switching from phone navigation to Garmin device is complicated as f***! Trip, track, route, 29 points, convert to something else, re-calculation! I was preparing for the trip longer than it lasted!😫
Can’t get over the price. I hate using my phone (camera shaking to death, battery discharging faster than it charges, ~110F Texas summers causing the phone to shutdown), but the zumo price is brutal.
Huh This isn’t a product description . This is a genuine review with its strengths and flaws. Not interested in anything off-road but I rally(😂) appreciate being honest about the short comings of the product. Good job guys
I recommend an Android device with DMD2 app on it. Great for GPX files and also have roadbook compatibility with support for handlebar controllers.
yeah, every single RevZilla review should be like this -- often they note a couple flaws, but this was a little more real.
Since it seems to be the only game around, I'm still thinking on it, but with more reluctance and hesitation.
@@Yowzoe Take a look at the T865 tablet running DMD2. So far the best device I’ve seen for on/off-road.
I looked hard at this and liked Garmin from 20 and 10 yrs ago. However, I just ordered the Samsung Rugged Active5 tablet (could have gotten the Active3 tablet) and will load the various SW apps on it. Arrives tomm.
Waterproof but not dustproof! How comes?🤨🙄
Garmin's prices are insane. Even the older XT is over-priced. I come from the tech world so I know the cost of manufacturing and the XT/XT2 devices should easily be in the $400 range. So 'Big G' is charging you for software too essentially. And why not? They have ZERO competition really. Since I have no off-road experience, I'll say that as far as street riding goes, the biggest problem is that Garmin's software is total user hostile garbage. I've had numerous Garmin GPS devices over the years and I stopped using them bc car navigation systems are better. For the on-road motorcycle, using your phone is easier, cheaper and makes more sense if you do it right. Get a good phone mount that offers anti-vibration (sometimes I don't mount it, I just keep it in my breast pocket and use earbuds or a Cardo) and simply download a very large area of maps so you don't need to rely on cell towers if you do travel to areas without a signal. Example - I keep a 5 state area on my phone at all times and Google Maps updates it regularly and automatically. I haven't needed a Garmin in years. For off-road, a Garmin is probably critical but for the streets....no.
Phone doesn’t work in the south in the summer. All it does overheat and the screen goes dim to preserve the battery. GPS is the only option for me. It’s also nice that the Zumo touchscreen works easily with gloves.
Disappointing overview. Main features of the XT2 vs XT1 weren't even mentioned:
• visual on-device route planning
• popular moto paths map overlay (I use this quite a bit)
• ability to host group/connected rides
If what is meant by "visual on device route planning" is the ability create a route by panning and zooming around/in the main map screen by tapping the locations of successive waypoints to create a route on the fly, this can in fact be done on the XT1.
The result of interactively doing the above becomes the current active route being navigated (and the route gets recalculated after each new waypoint is added). This Active Route can be viewed at any point in the Trip Planner under "My Active Route". As you tap on the map to successively and interactively add waypoints (tap a new waypoint location and hit Go!) you will be prompted as to where in the active route you want to add it.
That said, in order to do detailed edits of the partial or final result beyond just adding waypoints (or not lose the resulting active route accidentally) you will want to go into the Trip Planner, tap on My Active Route and tap Save. You can then safely proceed to edit or rearrange points in detail without losing your work if you screw up as in the case of a mistake in editing (or terminating by accident) the My Active Route.
Hope that helps clarify that the XT1 does in fact have visual, on the fly interactive route creation (similar to what phone based apps like InRoute or Scenic have albeit not nearly as polished or comprehensive.)
I have not yet had access to an XT2 to see how it differs from the XT1 for visual route planning (or if its better or more polished) but the XT1 does have this feature.
You’re riding not programming a computer for a Mars mission.
Why don’t these companies make an Apple CarPlay like simple interface with access to your other apps. That’s why the mobile is popular, simple and works
Garmin needs to do much better with their software and product ecosystem. Overpriced for what you are getting.
I’m pretending to use my device off-road…. I’m concerned about the dust issue that you mentioned. How severe is it?
Is has a speaker on the back
I’ve taken the older version the Zumo XT on multiple dirt trails and a 2500 mile round trip for a BDR. It was fine & I’ve had it 4 years now. But, the way my Zumo is mounted is sitting behind the windshield on my GSA. So no direct dust is being forced toward the unit.
I can upload from PC directly to GPS, KMZ or KML formats???
You mentioned the Zumo XT2 has GLONASS capability. What are u basing that statement on? Garmin's literature only mentions GPS and Galileo, neither the GLONASS or BeiDou constellations are supported.
Just purchased a new Zumo 396 for $225 because I just cant possibly justify $500 for the XT2 or even $400 for the XT. I'm sure the newer ones are nicer but for how I want to use it I think the 396 will serve me 80% as well for half the cost.
Would you be using the 396 for writing dirt roads in the middle of nowhere?
@@Yowzoe personally? No, but I'm sure you could if you wanted to do that.
Glonass isn’t new. It’s Russian GPS. Some newer GPS will use both GLONASS and GPS. Increasing the number of satellites you can receive from.
bought it.. arrived today. doesn't start..
Garmin shows up and that's it.. turning off again. tried different cabels etc didn't work
yikes. I avoid extended warranties like the plague. But if I get this, hmm...
o suporte do XT é diferente do XT2 com 3 pinos deligação , a vedação também não é a melhor pois ele fica com folga no suporte antigo.
Every updated GPS unit costs more but contains less features than the previous unit. I am still running the Garmin Zumo 665 with XM Radio (that doesn't work now), and audio output jacks which this XT2 does not have. Fucking useless if you can't use hard wired ear buds. You can't hear the instructions with Bluetooth helmets at speeds above 10 MPH. And Bluetooth ear buds don't stay on without a continuous signal as with a radio.
Battery life?
3-6 hrs depend on screen brightness
Not a very good review guys
Do you mean "not a very good product"?
This "review" was utter useless, complete waste of my time.
Either do an attempt or dont do it!
This should just have been an unboxing video, there was NO of the relevant information that I was seeking.
Thanks for the review, but NO thanks.
What a horrible and incomplete presentation of a product.
What a complete pile of crap this Overview is, no real detail just another marketing influencer promoting their channel 😡
Dang dude, maybe take a walk and a few slow breaths. RevZilla goes over the features of products to help people learn more about the product, I'd hardly call a brand doing that exact same thing for 15 years on RUclips "marketing influencers promoting their channel". Enjoy the free content and take it a bit less serious.
eh if you cant operate a $600 GPS you prob shouldn't be riding a motorcycle
Then I would suggest you do an instructional video on how to make a route and get to the GPS in a streamlined way. Not everyone is as brilliant as you are!
If that is the deduction you got to from this video, then probably you shouldn't ride a motorcycle...
why can’t they deliver a device that justifies its price? yes, they are the best out there so far but that is not the reason to charge 600 bucks for an outdated crap.
I feel like I could buy a new smart phone and use my old phone as a dedicated GPS and save money.
monopoly on bike satnavs = minimum basic effort + maximum price gouging.