been following the guy since the initial iphone jailbreak. he is a genius and isnt intrested in making money the capitalist way. tesla offered him a boatload to program for them/help design full self drive. i think he lasted there less than a week!
I'd love to see that car/trike in production, but after hearing about their plans for the last 5 years and seeing their empty warehouse/factory several times in interviews over the last year or so, I'm pretty we'll never see those on the streets.
@@lawrencewittenbergii4309Aptera has made a lot of progress since then. They are very close to have a finished product, low volume factory and supply chain.
@@lawrencewittenbergii4309 This is their second attempt and they learned not to concede to a board of directors. With COVID, the last 5 years is more like 3. Impressive stuff from Aptera.
George is undiplomatically honest. He is a Genius and I do think his approach will work. Mostly because he is not wasting billions of R&D dollars. He has a better business roadmap.
@@wysiwyg1so glad to see someone else who knows that Elong has been stealing his playbook for years. George wrote the original in-house FSD code after Tesla quit mobileye and then reneged after George delivered the program. That’s what inspired George to start comma in the first place.
I've been using Comma AI hardware in my Mazda for a few years now. I love it. Makes all geofenced systems like BlueCruise look stupid. I've also seen a lot of videos now with George talking about the product, and he seems noticeable restrained in this one. He's never boring.
I've had my Comma 3 since 2021 and love it. I am not sure what will happen once all the OEM move to encrypted communication buses. I am not sure OEM's will allow third party devices.
Can you drop some keywords one might search to learn more about this initiative? We should all keep in touch with it, bc used cars will become infinitely more valuable the year before a brand makes this switch. Open Can bus forever!!🙏
I've owned one of these for the past year. I think it speaks volumes that my friends, who don't particularly care or know much about self driving, still make me the designated driver on most road trips. Anyone who sees one of these in action can immediately see how much it makes driving meaningfully less fatiguing, regardless of the distance.
At least comma will use your cars radar system instead of relying 100% on vision. Tesla might be theoretically correct that it's possible to do it all with vision only, but in practice, they keep plowing into things on the road at full speed.
I have been Comma Ai user since 2023 and its really a game changer for my older Toyota. I am surprised only 20K sold?! Man its better than any of the ADAS system on the market except Tesla FSD
I have been using the comma ai for several years. It always puzzles me why they aren't selling 20k per month. It's a great product. Maybe marketing is lacking?
George’s ethos is all over the company. He cares about nothing besides shipping functional iterations of the product and “winning self driving” in the end. Absolutely nothing else. Their RUclips and GitHub repos are all the marketing you’ll ever see. He doesn’t even run the company anymore. He’s only at CES for promo. His idea of marketing is cutting the price. 😂😂 In fact he left the company once it was up and running to go start another company to write his own coding language.
I have been holding off on a new car purchase of a large luxury suv because the comma is not yet compatible. Its crazy that something that cost 1,000 is stopping me from spending around 80k
John, thank you for your interview of this founder and his tech. Autoline is outstanding and knowing this tech is sold to people in Japan, means it could likely work for us here in Aussie (RHD) too! Mind you, $1000USD is like about the value of Tasmania right now ;-)
Really enjoyed watching George do living coding sessions. Watching someone like him struggle but keep trying to figure out the solution really helped me in my own role at work.
Been following comma for a little while and Super excited about ordering one of these. What was completely left out of this interview is that the driving device is only a way to make some money as they pursue (non driving) robotics. George and others at the company have said as much in interviews.
Your kidding, right? It's been measured, tested and weighed. It's a legit product. You should get one, best investment you will ever make for your car.
It is "tested" by typing comma 3 into RUclips and then seeing the long list of 1000's of people using it in their cars. Autoline would just be doing one drive out of the many on the internet that you can watch right now. The system is not new.
Wow, at 3:40 they drove past the apartment/condo I used to live at in Ocean Beach, San Diego when I was doing my grad school. That street is Del Monte Ave in San Diego.
1:55 GM should have partnered with Comma, or pay them to directly integrate comma tech into their vehicles. The system is so much more wildly simple & cheaper than the cost of the Cruise robotaxi sensor suite, and GM could get personal autonomy for their vehicles!!
It's great I just think they need to invest more into keeping up with compatibility. A ton of cars on their supported list are for older models up to maybe a few years ago.
If only they kept 2nd gen volt support working. I had it working on the original hardware (non-acc version of the car). New versions of software on the newer devices does not work despite forks that claim it should. Its the greatest device that all cars need, but meaningless if the cars that can support it just don't get support. The lane keeping on openpilot makes driving so much safer. The eye monitoring is a feature that should be mandated in all cars. You can tell no one cares about safety because no one with power wants to require vision monitoring. Eye monitoring with an alarm when you look away too long is a purely offline tech that does not need to transmit video anywhere or even be connected to any internet.
It is an interesting system. For anyone that hasn't looked into it before, it's worth checking it out. Especially if you have a pretty new car (not all cars are supported, but many are). It makes uses of your cars cameras & other sensors and packs in a few others of its own. Handy for those w/ supported cars, as it'll do FAR more than the car itself can.
It does not use your cars cameras. The device has its own cameras which are used for steering. It will generally integrate with existing vehicle sensors such as blind spot detection or brake warnings. The CAN bus is how it communicates with the car and a CAN bus does not have the bandwidth to stream video 😂 I've had one of these for a while now and it's amazing for long trips.
I know he may seem abrasive at times, but George is a genius. They’ve been selling the Comma for a few years now and I’ve never tried it myself, but apparently it does what he says it will.
George knows the game of startups well. You dont want 1 customer that is 99% of your revenue who then bullies you to do what they want which could ultimately be incorrect. Its far better to think long term and not allow that situation to form. Everyone who has been a founder will have a story of the S&P500 company that wasted hundreds of hours only to not more forward and the startup runs out of runway because it focused on what that company wanted.
That is cool in its own way. This is cool in its own way. This is much more enhanced autopilot for a much cheaper price point. Over the coming years people will be adding this to $10,000 used cars. Most Teslas haven't dropped to that price point yet.
You simply had more luck than those decapitated or squished drivers whose Teslas run into a truck, lane divider, or an emergency vehicle lit like a Christmas tree. Make your pick 😂. Wake me up when Tesla can drive without a driver in a closed off tunnel.
"Most, if not all, vehicles from the following manufacturers use FlexRay instead of a CAN bus: BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Land Rover, and some Volvo. These cars may one day be supported, but we have no immediate plans to support FlexRay." - Comma AI
george is basically an elon level genius - but he should really consider selling/whiteboxing his product to major automotive companies. he could sell and develop his company to be the cheaper version of tesla self driving, and fund the advancement of it into something that is nearly as good as tesla's self driving. companies wouldn't pay as much for comma as for a tesla solution but he could make a lot of money at it, having a semi-standardized form factor (the wiring/cameras/compute module) make that standardized and sell to multiple companies, especially the smaller companies in the space. personally i think he could make a couple hundred million dollars with that kind of business model. but it seems he's kind of loathe to become too corporatized, which i understand - he wants to do his own thing without having other companies dictate to him. which i get. but still, he could be SO rich if he took his company down a bit more corporate line.
Been following Commai for many years. George is a smart guy. Love this product unfortunately I drive Tesla. If not for that I would buy one for each car. Love AP and FSD. Still the market for Commai is endless now and even more in the future.
00:55 may be outsource so you can reduce the price, so you can have more people using and have more data to collect (of course keep the data here in the USA).
You lead the revolutionary AI company. Actually I heard Hotz wanted to step down as CEO and just be CTO. You should take CEO because you're really smart at making the decisions for this company
When it comes to 'autonomous driving', I want the craziest CEO to make the most unrealistic promises in the most arrogant way...and gather the most investor capital based on the least bona fides possible.
"if you've wasted less than $8B, you're ahead of GM" Lol
man I burst out laughing when he said that..I like how geniuses are usually straight forward.
Savage roast
Geohotz, the teenager who first cracked open the iphone. Brilliant guy. Who knows he might actually pull it off with self driving.
and he reverse engineered the PlayStation 3.
Thank for you for mentioning it, that explains his behaviour :p Damn serious he is!
been following the guy since the initial iphone jailbreak. he is a genius and isnt intrested in making money the capitalist way. tesla offered him a boatload to program for them/help design full self drive. i think he lasted there less than a week!
Came here to say this. I remember getting Cydia after jailbreaking my iPhone 3G using the software geohotz created
im not sure about no interest in money, jailbreaking game consoles was 100 million per year bussiness at that time...
One EV startup - Aptera - is using Comma AI as their driver assist technology. Available as an optional add-on in their configurator.
I'd love to see that car/trike in production, but after hearing about their plans for the last 5 years and seeing their empty warehouse/factory several times in interviews over the last year or so, I'm pretty we'll never see those on the streets.
Aptera, now there's a name that I haven't heard in a long time. Promises made, promises not kept. Besides, we already have electric golf carts.
@@larryboldt483 101 mph, 400 mile range golf carts? 🤔😃
@@lawrencewittenbergii4309Aptera has made a lot of progress since then. They are very close to have a finished product, low volume factory and supply chain.
@@lawrencewittenbergii4309 This is their second attempt and they learned not to concede to a board of directors. With COVID, the last 5 years is more like 3.
Impressive stuff from Aptera.
Own one. It has driven me over 120,000 km. I will never purchase a daily driver that is not on the compatibility list.
Wow!
Same. It's awesome.
Thank you for the review. What car? Tell us about the experiences your wife didn't like lol
@@gutrali I've used it on a 2018 Kia Stinger and then a 2020 Kia Telluride.
George is undiplomatically honest. He is a Genius and I do think his approach will work. Mostly because he is not wasting billions of R&D dollars. He has a better business roadmap.
@@wysiwyg1so glad to see someone else who knows that Elong has been stealing his playbook for years.
George wrote the original in-house FSD code after Tesla quit mobileye and then reneged after George delivered the program.
That’s what inspired George to start comma in the first place.
He knows the ins and outs. He is Brilliant in this space. And I love his model.
That was great. Thanks for showcasing the "small" companies and the people behind them. Exciting times
True geniuses are usually a little different. Us regular people have a hard time understanding them. Remember, we are the dumb ones.
BINGO!
Can you have him on the podcast next Thursday instead of talking to bunch of hardware guys about what's next for AI/Software integration.
There's a long one with Lex Fridman.
+1 to this. Auto line after hours would be awesome
@@jarrodvsinclairIt seems cool but I dunno if Autoline guys will ask better, more informed questions than Lex
@@-whackd issue is its a different audience. very little overlap I think
George Hotz is the man
I've been using Comma AI hardware in my Mazda for a few years now. I love it. Makes all geofenced systems like BlueCruise look stupid. I've also seen a lot of videos now with George talking about the product, and he seems noticeable restrained in this one. He's never boring.
I have used this system on and off for five years and recently logged 11,000 miles on two trips just eight weeks apart. This system is no joke.
George reminds me of "dude you're getting a dell" his shade about GM was factual and unexpected as well. I like him.
I was waiting for "Mary you did it!"
Probably your best David vs. Goliath interview of 2025!
I've had my Comma 3 since 2021 and love it. I am not sure what will happen once all the OEM move to encrypted communication buses. I am not sure OEM's will allow third party devices.
Can you drop some keywords one might search to learn more about this initiative? We should all keep in touch with it, bc used cars will become infinitely more valuable the year before a brand makes this switch. Open Can bus forever!!🙏
I've owned one of these for the past year. I think it speaks volumes that my friends, who don't particularly care or know much about self driving, still make me the designated driver on most road trips. Anyone who sees one of these in action can immediately see how much it makes driving meaningfully less fatiguing, regardless of the distance.
I admire his honesty and clarity. He's confident and needs no validation.
Pretty sure this guy was the first person to jailbreak the
i phone at 13 years old.
Correct. Geohot!
I own a comma 3x. I won’t buy another car that isn’t either supported by this system or a Tesla. It’s that good.
Wow!
Same here!
Same
Same. I drove from Miami, FL. to Atlanta, GA. and had to give highway inputs five times max. It really is that good.
@@RickLBZ Can you use it inside Miami, with all the crazy drivers?
Please do a full interview with George Hotz.
We make a thing.... We sell thing for more then we make it for... we profit.
Great interview... Autoline should try comma a.i out in a vehicle. I bet it beats out any oem system except Tesla.
It absolutely does beat any OEM! But maybe not $15,000 FSD
@@MegaMijitFSD is not $15k. Last I recall it was around $8k or $99 bucks a month.
even if it like 90% to the Tesla FSD...this is incredible considering the price point and the wider compatibility of vehicles.
At least comma will use your cars radar system instead of relying 100% on vision. Tesla might be theoretically correct that it's possible to do it all with vision only, but in practice, they keep plowing into things on the road at full speed.
@ agreed, I would feel more comfortable with lidar/radar, but there has to be a reason why its not used.
I have been Comma Ai user since 2023 and its really a game changer for my older Toyota. I am surprised only 20K sold?! Man its better than any of the ADAS system on the market except Tesla FSD
I have been using the comma ai for several years. It always puzzles me why they aren't selling 20k per month. It's a great product. Maybe marketing is lacking?
George’s ethos is all over the company. He cares about nothing besides shipping functional iterations of the product and “winning self driving” in the end.
Absolutely nothing else.
Their RUclips and GitHub repos are all the marketing you’ll ever see.
He doesn’t even run the company anymore. He’s only at CES for promo. His idea of marketing is cutting the price. 😂😂
In fact he left the company once it was up and running to go start another company to write his own coding language.
I have been using this since 2018 in my Kia Stinger and Kia Telluride. Its awesome! Hands down the 2nd best driver assistance system behind Tesla FSD.
This guy is known for different reason(s), but he's a freakin' genius anyways.
What are the other reasons. I know him only for his intellect.
Good reporting, thanks.
I have been holding off on a new car purchase of a large luxury suv because the comma is not yet compatible. Its crazy that something that cost 1,000 is stopping me from spending around 80k
Rivian compatibility coming very soon!
Same here. Wanted a Luxury German vehicle but ended up with a Ford Maverick because it’s comma compatible.
It’s crazy to others but makes sense to me.
Geniuses never seem to have much time for combing their hair. Mr. Hotz is truly a remarkable young man.
probably because they spend hours just pulling their hair in frustration...that their hair permanently become like this....
@@superchargedpetrolhead ....you just might have a point there! LOL
Congrats, George. I remember when this was running off of iPhone during dev
John, thank you for your interview of this founder and his tech. Autoline is outstanding and knowing this tech is sold to people in Japan, means it could likely work for us here in Aussie (RHD) too! Mind you, $1000USD is like about the value of Tasmania right now ;-)
Getting to talk to George in person was probably such a treat! He is such a quirky guy
Really enjoyed watching George do living coding sessions. Watching someone like him struggle but keep trying to figure out the solution really helped me in my own role at work.
Aptera is planning to incorporate comma with the production of their vehicle.
Aptera has been planning a lot of things for a decade and a half. Time to shit or get off the pot.
Very smart.
Right, and Aptera is doing it the way George suggested, buying the tech and installing it, not taking over the company and killing it.
Gosh I love how real and honest Hotz is. Refreshing.
Any chance it would be available on Mach E anytime soon?
Outstanding! George is a remarkable young man!
Been following comma for a little while and Super excited about ordering one of these.
What was completely left out of this interview is that the driving device is only a way to make some money as they pursue (non driving) robotics. George and others at the company have said as much in interviews.
Thanks for telling us about this tech! 😊
Best $1k I ever spent! Now if only they'd develop for OP more frequently
George is awesome! You should have him on the show.
This needs to be tested and have the guy on Autoline. I have heard and seen demos but more needs to be done to see how good it is.
it works. it's good. it's not new.
Your kidding, right? It's been measured, tested and weighed. It's a legit product. You should get one, best investment you will ever make for your car.
It is "tested" by typing comma 3 into RUclips and then seeing the long list of 1000's of people using it in their cars. Autoline would just be doing one drive out of the many on the internet that you can watch right now. The system is not new.
Consumer reports did it years ago. Found comma was the best. 80% of the miles of my car are driven by commas openpilot.
I wish them all the success. They have earned it.
Wow, at 3:40 they drove past the apartment/condo I used to live at in Ocean Beach, San Diego when I was doing my grad school. That street is Del Monte Ave in San Diego.
i’ve put over 70,000 miles on my 21 RAV4 with a comma 2 it makes my commute EFFORTLESS!
if the comma 2 ever dies, I might upgrade
You have to share. It's just amazing
1:55 GM should have partnered with Comma, or pay them to directly integrate comma tech into their vehicles. The system is so much more wildly simple & cheaper than the cost of the Cruise robotaxi sensor suite, and GM could get personal autonomy for their vehicles!!
I love my comma! One of the best purchases that I have made.
It's great I just think they need to invest more into keeping up with compatibility. A ton of cars on their supported list are for older models up to maybe a few years ago.
If only they kept 2nd gen volt support working. I had it working on the original hardware (non-acc version of the car). New versions of software on the newer devices does not work despite forks that claim it should. Its the greatest device that all cars need, but meaningless if the cars that can support it just don't get support.
The lane keeping on openpilot makes driving so much safer. The eye monitoring is a feature that should be mandated in all cars. You can tell no one cares about safety because no one with power wants to require vision monitoring. Eye monitoring with an alarm when you look away too long is a purely offline tech that does not need to transmit video anywhere or even be connected to any internet.
You can't sell any car in Europe without a DMC since 2022.
It is an interesting system. For anyone that hasn't looked into it before, it's worth checking it out. Especially if you have a pretty new car (not all cars are supported, but many are). It makes uses of your cars cameras & other sensors and packs in a few others of its own. Handy for those w/ supported cars, as it'll do FAR more than the car itself can.
It does not use your cars cameras. The device has its own cameras which are used for steering. It will generally integrate with existing vehicle sensors such as blind spot detection or brake warnings. The CAN bus is how it communicates with the car and a CAN bus does not have the bandwidth to stream video 😂
I've had one of these for a while now and it's amazing for long trips.
Please invite George on AAH sometime in the future. I am sure it would be a fascinating discussion 😊
Love this approach. Go comma
Great guy. This is the type of founder I expect from tech.
Just recently heard about this product. If will be interesting to see where it's at in another year or so.
It’s been out for multiple years already
I know he may seem abrasive at times, but George is a genius. They’ve been selling the Comma for a few years now and I’ve never tried it myself, but apparently it does what he says it will.
I like this guy
Wonder how the system has access to both sides of traffic at stops?
George knows the game of startups well. You dont want 1 customer that is 99% of your revenue who then bullies you to do what they want which could ultimately be incorrect. Its far better to think long term and not allow that situation to form. Everyone who has been a founder will have a story of the S&P500 company that wasted hundreds of hours only to not more forward and the startup runs out of runway because it focused on what that company wanted.
Intriguing interview.
He could easily go down the VC route to swindle billions but bro is a true engineer/hacker
Is it available for purchase? thanks!
I bought a comma box in 2018, amazing product!
Can i drive my car with comma while wearing sunglasses?
Market to delivery drivers and livery to increase numbers
GEOHOTZ 🔥
Partnerships summarised: "It's Much Cheaper for them to waste your time, than it is to waste yours for them".
An hour on the highway? My Tesla just drove me from CT to Florida and all around Florida for two weeks and then home and I never touched the wheel!
That is cool in its own way. This is cool in its own way. This is much more enhanced autopilot for a much cheaper price point. Over the coming years people will be adding this to $10,000 used cars. Most Teslas haven't dropped to that price point yet.
BS
You simply had more luck than those decapitated or squished drivers whose Teslas run into a truck, lane divider, or an emergency vehicle lit like a Christmas tree. Make your pick 😂. Wake me up when Tesla can drive without a driver in a closed off tunnel.
Hi Alex !
I like him
"Most, if not all, vehicles from the following manufacturers use FlexRay instead of a CAN bus: BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Land Rover, and some Volvo. These cars may one day be supported, but we have no immediate plans to support FlexRay." - Comma AI
Yep. 100% trust this.
Can't wait for my CX-90 to be out of warranty so I can try this out
I cant wait til i am ready for a new car. I am going to get one that can use this.
Doesn't seem like he's that interested in you promoting his product.
george is basically an elon level genius - but he should really consider selling/whiteboxing his product to major automotive companies. he could sell and develop his company to be the cheaper version of tesla self driving, and fund the advancement of it into something that is nearly as good as tesla's self driving. companies wouldn't pay as much for comma as for a tesla solution but he could make a lot of money at it, having a semi-standardized form factor (the wiring/cameras/compute module) make that standardized and sell to multiple companies, especially the smaller companies in the space. personally i think he could make a couple hundred million dollars with that kind of business model. but it seems he's kind of loathe to become too corporatized, which i understand - he wants to do his own thing without having other companies dictate to him. which i get. but still, he could be SO rich if he took his company down a bit more corporate line.
You hit that right on the spot about GM. Barra needs to go.
This is the same guy who jailbroke the first iPhone. 📱
That guy beat GM at their own game. Proves how big and wasteful GM is.
Why GM specifically and not Ford or Tesla ?
@@Author_Roemess GM gave up. Ford and Tesla still have R&D teams and sell their products to consumers.
@ Because GM just announced they are writing off one billion dollars they spent on autonomous driving cars.
@@Author_Roemess GM bought a self driving startup and just folded it. Tesla is just irrelevant
George Hotz is a legend.
Been following Commai for many years. George is a smart guy. Love this product unfortunately I drive Tesla. If not for that I would buy one for each car. Love AP and FSD. Still the market for Commai is endless now and even more in the future.
Too bad UNECE R155 & R156 will probably cause some issues in the future...
But CEO Special K is already testing autonomy on a private backlot with teledriven cars so take that geohot.
Geohot is the man 😂
This guy is smarter than Musk.
The two have had an interesting relationship
They’re both smart. I would enjoy seeing them both chat together.
lol geohot is sloooooooowly getting better at marketing
00:55 may be outsource so you can reduce the price, so you can have more people using and have more data to collect (of course keep the data here in the USA).
Reduce the price? I'm surprised that they are selling it so cheap. Obviously you don't own one. Those who do, know.
You lead the revolutionary AI company. Actually I heard Hotz wanted to step down as CEO and just be CTO. You should take CEO because you're really smart at making the decisions for this company
Jack Harlow of autonomous driving
I unironically like this guy
EV leader getting praised left, right and center.
I hope you get Nvidia Cosmos!
Can you say Trevor Milton and Nikola. 😂
Me with my 2015 car 😭
All of the OEMs should save a boat load of money and just license Tesla's FSD
Don’t need this spying on my “attention” level or susceptible for compromise. IM GOOD.
it's open source
They will they all will. After they spend billions for dry holes.
Do Toyota tundra already!!!!
what a goofy guy!
The slick guys never build anything, they just sell it.
😂 he's goofy but you're too dumb to understand 0.0001% of what he can to make this possible
yep. if you check out his accomplishments you'll see he has an IQ higher than the IQ of every commenter here added up. LOL
I been watching this company for many years. I only have one thing to say, progress is too slow. 20k units sold is a hobby.
When it comes to 'autonomous driving', I want the craziest CEO to make the most unrealistic promises in the most arrogant way...and gather the most investor capital based on the least bona fides possible.
What are you trying to say?
@@user-ln7of9gs4shes making fun of Elon 😂
@@728GT it’s not even funny, especially if you have to use a laughing emoji.
GeoHot has always been brilliant but a mess. A real shame, I wish him all the best.
A mess? What is thus mess of a RUclips comment? 😅