Gotta respect Cliff for keeping it honest and actually reacting to the music and not being biased because he has a relationship with Knox Hill. My favorite reaction channel.
@@wait7547 he's used it on every single person, i used to like him when he was with crypt and all but he's bullshit he jumps from person to person using them for anything he can he's wack as hell
@@wait7547 "i only know scru from his eminem reactions" yet we are supposed to act like race isnt an underlying thing with you people fr??? You are literally proving Scru correct in saying most of yall only like Eminem
I really don't think that's the case, I think it's coincidental that when he says Knox isn't apart of the culture is because of things concerning race. Such as ignorance of racial discrimination leading to black brutality or deaths. That's not something that being white entails it's something that being ignorant of the culture and the situation around you entails. It just happens that Knox is white, and the thing he's ignorant of is black culture he's also ignorant of Gaza and Israel whole situation as he mentioned it in his track as a punchline for seemingly no reason. I also think when he says "You don't know the pain" etc etc, lines that reference race. he's not saying White People don't experience the pain black people do. he's saying that Knox as an individual has no right to rap about black struggles or racial discrimination or to comment on it, it feels very similar to the episode of south park when Stan's dad says the N Word and then Stan tries to talk to Token to explain to token that he's sorry on his dad's behalf which constantly blows up in his face until he finally just says "It's not that I don't understand" "it's that I can't understand" "Token I can't understand why it's so important!" and then Token forgave Stan. I think it's the same situation Instead of Knox saying "I can't understand that situation" he said "I didn't understand" which in some manner implies he understands now, which is almost most likely not the case. There's alot more bars that seem race implied like "Without eminem and without NF who are you" but that's not a racial diss. that's saying "you only stand from two artists and doesn't mean you're apart of the culture. (for example, if someone was only based off Kanye and Ski Mask, I wouldn't say they're necessarily apart of the culture, they're just someone who consumes two types of rap artists, and that's primarily it.) my main reason that I don't really believe Scru is racist like that is that he says Harry Mack is arguably on the same level as Juice WRLD As a freestyler, admits Eminem is one of the best rappers, thinks Lil Dicky is arguably one of the best modern rappers out there atleast in pure rap ability at his best. Is a huge fan of glorb despite the fact that Glorb can 100% be white, and he says "I don't care if he's not gangster, you can tell he's from the culture, he knows hip hop like that" he's someone who's really apart of us" and he was right. Glorb is an alternate name for a real hip hop artist. I also think the fact, he's born in nebraska, tells me the dude's seen more than hundreds of white people, and he says most of the ones he knows are nice people" but that the ones people be cheering for sometimes are white evil. which he then plays a clip of a racist white dude saying the N Word repeatedly, (To clarify why he's racist he's a conservative weirdo)
People are literally missing Scu Face's angles and most importantly the ON SCREEN receipts. Knox, on a screen shot, says "I AM KNOXHILL. I am not a product of hip hop... Mind you, Knox is also commenting on black culture while being insensitive to the plight (also brought up when he mentioned Scru's moms) of black people. Scru is pointing out how this is hypocritical. Wrong and Right. Getchya feelings and biases out of it. I didn't even get into the rebuttal of Knox calling Scru a cuck but is in drag 🤔... All in all, Scru put together a solid diss with even more re solid rebuttals.
Except the part, it’s not. He is clearly saying that it’s about being an appropriator/colonizer. Scru has never had a problem with white people in hip hop as long as they actually love and participate in the culture not just use it.
Kudos for trying to be objective and giving balance and nuanced reactions. The stans be ruining everything because they are too emotional about their favorites
I'm saying...I've grown to hate all of this beef bullshit since people can't take any emotion out of their opinions. It's even making me regret talking about that shit in person. Just because you don't like someone it doesn't mean you can't be objective and give credit.
"But you've taken the black and white angle the entire time" Yup that's SCRU. That's why even though I was watching his reactions back in 2018 when he recorded videos mid shift, i stopped once drama started following him and he leaned heavy into black vs white. He was falling off, got a resurgence of new fans once he started reacting to ERB, and I imagine he'll lose them again once he drops diss 4 of Knox and it's "you're white though" again.
If you really listen to what he's saying it's not about "black vs white" YES it is black and white people, BUT it's about the culture. He didn't have anything that was black vs white, he did call himself racist without saying it though. Now it can be flipped but honestly Knox should've waited and done something better bc that ezmill shit did not hit as hard as maybe it would've later or earlier
@@rangerhallada406 as somebody that watched scru from back in the day. That's scru's mo, the only reason he doesn't get more explicit with it is because Upchurch ragdolled him last time he tried to, and I've never been an Upchurch fan. "They make the same song" yeah because you're a shitty person and it's the most obvious character flaw. And STALKER went hard, imo. Answered the remix bar by using his own beat. Slipped the culture angle by not responding, scru even gave him the out by showing Knox saying he isn't fronting by being from the culture. Continued the narrative that scru is a phony the uses people by showing receipts for Tom and Ez, and reminding them of the 4 horseman days with Crypt and Gawne. Even adding the John 1:08 to address the Aubrey bars was brilliant.
Imo the bar about Knox only dissing Benzino for a gold star from Em falls flat when the song Slime Shady is literally titled as a response to Lord Jamar who was a heavy Eminem hater at that time. Not trying to defend Knox, I like him AND Scru, just saying as a fan of both that if Knox dissing Benzino is him wanting attention, the same can be said about Scru responding to Lord Jamar
I appreciate the unbiased reactions! Whether I happen to agree or disagree with the opinion of a reactor, I'd always rather have a genuine reaction as opposed to one that seeks to pander to a particular audience/fan-base. In terms of what's being said in this beef, I think both Scru and Knox make some valid points. Both said things I agree with and things I didn't. Hopefully the conversation about this topic will help people consider things from opposite sides and lead to more informed opinions.
As a Black man, you should know that Black people cannot be racist. Please educate yourself on the definition of racism.. You’re providing false harbor for real racists. That said, ScruFace tore that UP.
I really like how you have been doing the initial reactions first 👍 you know the real ones stick around for the whole thing 😅 I am sorry I didn’t catch the live’s just usually to busy plus they’re just not my type of thing I do rewatch tho usually 👍’s up from me
Cliff, I don't think Scru is saying he's not a part of the culture because he's white (if he is I disagree with that), it's because there are people who say things like "I don't like rap, but I like Em" etc....these peoples almost always have some sort of underlying world view that is anti black. Or, that he expresses values that don't align with hip hop history or culture. People forget this artform comes from opression. I don't even truly know if Knox is a vulture, but I'm just voicing someone is a volture based on how they treat the community and their world view (ex: Drake is more vulture like than J Cole, but they're both mixed).
Knox grew up in a black neighborhood, and grew with hip hop so he ain't no vulture, but his experiences can be different to black people coz of society but if only black people who who know discrimination and black pain can rap, does rap end when black people stop suffering?
@WeebtasticPrime No ofcourse not, as long as you are respectful to the history and understand it is what matters. Again, I have no idea if Knox is educated on these topics or comes from those backgrounds, I was speaking on general terms.
@gabrielbobowski7767 Yeah, I know, but discrediting the stuff they have done to the culture because they are "white" is kind of an odd hypocritical way to treat stuff, He points out how Knox using the dead black person as a bar is wrong but proceeds to make a similar bar against JFK? I'm not American, but wasn't he a very strong advocate of civil rights for minorities?
@@WeebtasticPrimeno it’s almost impossible for black to ever not have this angle. 70% of the country is white and 12% is black. Its hard to plead racism case when most of the country don’t even believe it exist. It’s an uphill climb everytime you take this angle true or not.
I was so mad at Kso for that shit. He's always so genuine in his appreciation for guys like Em and H Mack... For him to act like Knox and you are "outsiders"... that was some fucked up shit.
Knowing the situation and your position here bro👏. Most unbiased reaction and i really appreciate your opinion. I agree with you 100. You are goated sir. Scru needs to take the time to watch this. You're a real one
Got to love how scru uses the its not about black vs white its wrong vs right and he is using black vs white through the whole track and using that bar which was used by dax in the verse he did on black and white with tom macdonald and adam calhoun.
If anything, he tried to prove his own point by going against his own point. As someone who is mixed myself and grew up basically only with the black side of the family, it is very rough when you hear someone attack someone for race regardless of what race they are. He himself says and then contradicts his own colonizer line by saying that he doesn't have to go that deep but he still mentions it and then still ends off by calling him a colonizer like five times. Scru had lost it lol. And then he goes on to say it's not about black and white while still calling out racial stuff that didn't actually happen. It's ridiculous.
It was prerecorded Einstein he didn’t respond “within the hour”. lol he didn’t respond to anything Scru said. Y’all really think Knox is all that but he’s wack as hell.
I like that you clarified the experience with officers was just what you have seen. I’m from the north west suburbs of Chicago and it was primarily white and also a very small town so I have no experience from my younger age. I was in the military for 20 years and never saw anything like that in the military and none of us would have stood for it. We gave everyone equal shit! Stationed in Kansas I never saw police act wrong and we had large crews with all races constantly. So I will never argue it doesn’t happen but I haven’t seen and would not be quite if it did. I do know the south side is different so I’m sure in Chicago it’s crazy. You guys have shootings and stuff daily.
17:25 there's literally Stevie Knight on the example and a quarter are asian. And there's two or three album/specials in this specific example. Like, I found this stretch and its a rare stretch from March 23 to May 3 2023.
You honestly think this was better than the first? If anything it was more direct than the first. If he would have been this direct with the first it probably would have been a big W. But I think Knox up 2 now.
If we're using this logic then scrus might as well have been pre-recorded, As he came with nothing new and nothing at least people that are slightly into it and paying attention didn't already know about or weren't already aware of. He's just recycling info that's already easily accessible or that has already been addressed
In relation to the disses I'm confused as hell, but I have an anecdote... I grew up for the most part around other white people, until I became an adult, and was living in London, UK. I remember leaving a party about 4am with 2 friends who were gonna drop me off at my house and because they knew each other better I went to get into the back of the car, when one asked me to sit in the front and in my drunken, stoned, state asked why, and then immediately felt embarrassed when no-one answered. In my 20s I used h and crack recreationally for a few years, thinking I'd have it under control, but eventually the h bit me, and I had to ask a black friend to get for me because where I lived in London I only knew black dealers, and they wouldn't sell to me at first. When I eventually could get on my own, I remember the guy who helped me found out and was crying. So much shit.
"Took another persons diss and took it as a personal attack" first benzino did diss Knox but even then this whole thing is because Knight talked about EZ and Scru took it as a personal attack and talked smack about Stevie. Basically saying him and EZ are so close that to attck one is to attack both lol. Which we now know is farthest thing from true. Still thos diss is good, not win battle good but still respectable. The NF comparison to KH is really good
I saw his reaction. He did clarify some stuff when the clip about him came up but he didn't expose anything. All he said was he claimed to reach out to screw to offer some kind of help but that was never proven
True, I thought maybe shaq just said some wild stuff or was clipped out of context, but he clarified that he actually still believes what he said and doubled down.
When Em writes for Dre, do you think he writes the n word down for Dre? "Things just ain't the same for gangstas, times is changing, young ni***s is aging" Because Em wrote the Watcher
@@thedead073nothing to rebuttal on this. Race shit. Corny. And Knox rapped from Scru's perspective on "Stalker" and he brought receipts. This doesn't damage Knox at all. It sounds great and Scru can rap his fuckin' ass off but he didn't say anything of importance like Knox did on the first one. With that said, I prefer Scru sonically over Knox but Knox is smiting Scru lyrically. Dismantling him.
His beef with Upchurch WAS all about pigment! As is this one! EVERY reactor I have watched has said the SAME thing. Everyone's ears cannot be broken!!!
Honestly, Scru is using a lot of not understanding subtext is language. The quote from Knox about not being a product of hip hop, he's very obviously saying that hip hop is part of who he is on a deeper level. It's just part of his nature. I identify with that. That's part of the culture that not a lot of people acknowledge. The feeling like you have to prove yourself and your love for hip hop before you can be taken seriously. I'm a 6'3 bearded white boy fully sleeved. But look at me crazy when I start talking about some of the Emcees I think are underrated and why.
I've been watching y'all reactions channel and knew nothing about these beefs 😆 I like scru, you, knox, stevie, shaq....obviously I'm lost in the sauce 😆 🤣
The only thing about the history of hip hop/whatever else, and being an easy search on Google to find the answer. I haven't looked into the history yet, but like many things in history there can be many truths from different sides that lead to an answer. Some history gets lost, until at some point it's rediscovered, or maybe instead it is forgotten. I think as far as music genres go, genres have expanded upon previous genres, so deciding when one genre started and a new one began is tricky. Also because each country/culture may make their own versions of genres that previously existed elsewhere. And as inventions go it's almost impossible even for the 'inventors' to have the very first ideas of what they invent. They instead just make it popular enough with their name attached to the 'invention' to then receive credit for creating that idea. Anyways, I'm pretty new to the rap/hip-hop genre in general, so I'm sure others have more definitive answers regarding its history, or at least what they perceive to be the true history.
I love that you felt the need to make a comment, because you thought it was important that other people knew that you don't know what you are talking about.
@@okaydetar821 I know very little about hip hop/rap, I’ll admit that. It’s important to admit things you don’t know so you can improve as a person. I didn’t need to comment, but I chose to. Glad that you wanted to respond to my comment. 😁
@@blitzcam I hope making a youtube comment isn't how you express curiosity while sitting in front of a computer that could alleviate all that curiosity with a little research. But I am being kinda rude, I do have one thing to add other than a "diss" to your comment: I honestly don't have a great understanding of quantum chromodynamics.
@@okaydetar821 I’ll be honest. I made these comments with the hope of someone explaining a good general history. I could look into it, I guess I’m not curious enough yet to search on the web. This video got me thinking about it, hence my comment. As for your additional comment. Yeah me neither. I hope someone else joins who can clear up the confusion. 😂
YO you know Atmosphere? I NEVER hear them get mentioned. I mean Tom McDonald mentioned Rhymesayers but no one ever talks about Ant and Slug. Dope midwest rappers. You should react to something from them bro!
Race. Scru and Kendrick pointing out vultures who are so lost on the culture that they say and do some of the most offensive stuff to and about it while having absolutely no clue they're doing it. If it was knox ppl being shot unarmed he would have never made that mistake of making that a bar. Drake making Tupac sound like a cornball thru AI...and so much more about him shows he's an impersonator.
🤔 so when he said " that boy lying if he say he unbiased , he a bluffer" is that to anyone saying they unbiased or? Just curious cus you said his brother going sideways to you. So was it a subliminal towards you or anyone that says that?
Damn! Your babysitter story was rough to listen to! I'm sorry you went thru that as a baby 😢 Hope you're in a better place now 😊 I can't believe Shaq said that ish. It isn't even true!
Gotta respect Cliff for keeping it honest and actually reacting to the music and not being biased because he has a relationship with Knox Hill. My favorite reaction channel.
Scru got that wrong though, Knox didn't diss benzino for Eminem, he dissed him for the reactors for the take downs.
But didn’t he diss azz Izz for em?
eh he also did it when az izz dissed em too. scru kinda...sorta has a point here.,
@@ExarchGaming A good bit of reactors dissed Az Izz. Not just Knox.
@@OK-ce8cn it happens when u want to bait legends with trash
@@kingxdatruth0998 nah man the people who did that were corny asf
ending the diss with "it's not about black or white" after 90% of your track being the focus on exactly black vs white made me chuckle
I know what, I respect your opinion. You’re being as unbiased as you could. Which is what I consider the point of having a reaction channel.
Keyword counter
- black : 5
- white : 5
- culture : 7
- Eminem / NF : 7
- coloniser : 7
And they are ALL Relevant.
@@KhadijahJames-hi8wkthat's a lie
It's like Dax and janitor
@@KhadijahJames-hi8wk this is literally the same shit he said against upchurch and we all know how that ended lmao
@@Opachki69420 yeah i do know how it ended i dont know who upchurch is i listen to every song scru drops
You have to react to Shaq's reaction to this response. It was a bit of a diss reaction
scru really jumps on the race thing every single time
Only know Scru from his Eminem reactions, its tiring how quickly the race card gets pulled when they ain't got shit to say.
@@wait7547 he's used it on every single person, i used to like him when he was with crypt and all but he's bullshit he jumps from person to person using them for anything he can he's wack as hell
@@wait7547
"i only know scru from his eminem reactions"
yet we are supposed to act like race isnt an underlying thing with you people fr??? You are literally proving Scru correct in saying most of yall only like Eminem
So its ok for Tom Macdonald and Ben Shapiro to talk race but you get squeamish when any Black person rebuttals
this racism shit is really old on both sides and thats why racism will never die, people keep it going just like Scru
Only thing I can say is, He ended by saying it ain't about black or white, but the whole song was based on race.
You could tell calling Knox a racist was on the tip of his tongue the whole time. Lol
I really don't think that's the case, I think it's coincidental that when he says Knox isn't apart of the culture is because of things concerning race.
Such as ignorance of racial discrimination leading to black brutality or deaths.
That's not something that being white entails it's something that being ignorant of the culture and the situation around you entails.
It just happens that Knox is white, and the thing he's ignorant of is black culture
he's also ignorant of Gaza and Israel whole situation as he mentioned it in his track as a punchline for seemingly no reason.
I also think when he says "You don't know the pain" etc etc, lines that reference race.
he's not saying White People don't experience the pain black people do.
he's saying that Knox as an individual has no right to rap about black struggles or racial discrimination or to comment on it, it feels very similar to the episode of south park
when Stan's dad says the N Word
and then Stan tries to talk to Token to explain to token that he's sorry on his dad's behalf
which constantly blows up in his face until he finally just says "It's not that I don't understand" "it's that I can't understand" "Token I can't understand why it's so important!" and then Token forgave Stan.
I think it's the same situation
Instead of Knox saying "I can't understand that situation" he said "I didn't understand" which in some manner implies he understands now, which is almost most likely not the case.
There's alot more bars that seem race implied like
"Without eminem and without NF who are you" but that's not a racial diss. that's saying
"you only stand from two artists and doesn't mean you're apart of the culture.
(for example, if someone was only based off Kanye and Ski Mask, I wouldn't say they're necessarily apart of the culture, they're just someone who consumes two types of rap artists, and that's primarily it.)
my main reason that I don't really believe Scru is racist like that
is that he says Harry Mack is arguably on the same level as Juice WRLD As a freestyler, admits Eminem is one of the best rappers, thinks Lil Dicky is arguably one of the best modern rappers out there atleast in pure rap ability at his best. Is a huge fan of glorb despite the fact that Glorb can 100% be white, and he says "I don't care if he's not gangster, you can tell he's from the culture, he knows hip hop like that" he's someone who's really apart of us"
and he was right.
Glorb is an alternate name for a real hip hop artist.
I also think the fact, he's born in nebraska, tells me the dude's seen more than hundreds of white people, and he says most of the ones he knows are nice people" but that the ones people be cheering for sometimes are white evil. which he then plays a clip of a racist white dude saying the N Word repeatedly, (To clarify why he's racist he's a conservative weirdo)
People are literally missing Scu Face's angles and most importantly the ON SCREEN receipts.
Knox, on a screen shot, says "I AM KNOXHILL. I am not a product of hip hop... Mind you, Knox is also commenting on black culture while being insensitive to the plight (also brought up when he mentioned Scru's moms) of black people. Scru is pointing out how this is hypocritical.
Wrong and Right.
Getchya feelings and biases out of it.
I didn't even get into the rebuttal of Knox calling Scru a cuck but is in drag 🤔...
All in all, Scru put together a solid diss with even more re solid rebuttals.
OOOH BOY NOW WE RHYMING COLONIZER? CORNY. I HATE THE COLORIST/RACE CARD... KNOX GOES AT HIS CHARACTER, HE GOES AT KNOXS RACE .. 😂😂😂
Except the part, it’s not. He is clearly saying that it’s about being an appropriator/colonizer. Scru has never had a problem with white people in hip hop as long as they actually love and participate in the culture not just use it.
Kudos for trying to be objective and giving balance and nuanced reactions. The stans be ruining everything because they are too emotional about their favorites
Literally, can’t give an opinion or say you liked something anymore without being called biased, a bot or a glazer
I'm saying...I've grown to hate all of this beef bullshit since people can't take any emotion out of their opinions. It's even making me regret talking about that shit in person. Just because you don't like someone it doesn't mean you can't be objective and give credit.
@@jubabutlerFacts
"But you've taken the black and white angle the entire time" Yup that's SCRU. That's why even though I was watching his reactions back in 2018 when he recorded videos mid shift, i stopped once drama started following him and he leaned heavy into black vs white. He was falling off, got a resurgence of new fans once he started reacting to ERB, and I imagine he'll lose them again once he drops diss 4 of Knox and it's "you're white though" again.
If you really listen to what he's saying it's not about "black vs white" YES it is black and white people, BUT it's about the culture. He didn't have anything that was black vs white, he did call himself racist without saying it though. Now it can be flipped but honestly Knox should've waited and done something better bc that ezmill shit did not hit as hard as maybe it would've later or earlier
Call knox a racist*
@@rangerhallada406 as somebody that watched scru from back in the day. That's scru's mo, the only reason he doesn't get more explicit with it is because Upchurch ragdolled him last time he tried to, and I've never been an Upchurch fan. "They make the same song" yeah because you're a shitty person and it's the most obvious character flaw.
And STALKER went hard, imo. Answered the remix bar by using his own beat. Slipped the culture angle by not responding, scru even gave him the out by showing Knox saying he isn't fronting by being from the culture. Continued the narrative that scru is a phony the uses people by showing receipts for Tom and Ez, and reminding them of the 4 horseman days with Crypt and Gawne. Even adding the John 1:08 to address the Aubrey bars was brilliant.
Imo the bar about Knox only dissing Benzino for a gold star from Em falls flat when the song Slime Shady is literally titled as a response to Lord Jamar who was a heavy Eminem hater at that time. Not trying to defend Knox, I like him AND Scru, just saying as a fan of both that if Knox dissing Benzino is him wanting attention, the same can be said about Scru responding to Lord Jamar
Also Benzino took down reactions, that issue with Cliff, and the paid interview debacle was the reason for the diss
Respect ✊ cliff
I swear Cliff the only dude I've ever seen with the "automatically unsubscribe to everyone you intentionally subscribe to" setting turned on 🤣
The way Shaq handles the receipt part is how you suppose to do it. Big up Shaq.
Love you Cliff. Your takes are great
DK Rap Artist just smoked Scru, too! Would love to see him on y'alls' podcast.
I appreciate the unbiased reactions! Whether I happen to agree or disagree with the opinion of a reactor, I'd always rather have a genuine reaction as opposed to one that seeks to pander to a particular audience/fan-base. In terms of what's being said in this beef, I think both Scru and Knox make some valid points. Both said things I agree with and things I didn't. Hopefully the conversation about this topic will help people consider things from opposite sides and lead to more informed opinions.
Hey Cliff at 7:07 the line “I’m about to give em Beats like it’s heart in his hand” is that a reference to you considering the two bars previous?
No lie, crazy fair and unbiased considering the relationships and shots sent his way. Respect.
You said Em is the main reason why people react
Em is the reason I started watching reactions and breakdowns bro 😂
As a black man I must say that racism is unacceptable regardless of what ethnic group you belong to...... with that being said Scru was cooking 🍳 🔥
Agreed 💯
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As a Black man, you should know that Black people cannot be racist. Please educate yourself on the definition of racism.. You’re providing false harbor for real racists.
That said, ScruFace tore that UP.
Are you out to lunch? Knox isn't black is his only bar.
@@Slothptimal I don't think you know what a bar is please be quiet 🤫
props to you cliff for being unbiased 👏
RUclips beef?! Man they bout to make me go vegan…
Hahahah well played.
Bars!
Em angle is weak I agree, from anyone...I only know of Knox AND Scru because of their Em reactions that I got to from first watching Shaq and Stevie.
Wow somebody who gives and unbiased reaction. We need more of this.
I'm here for the breakdown, brother. Thank you for this. 🙏
good on you! i respect how you can listen for it for the music and not be biased 🔥🔥🔥
cliff reaction was gold lol he was like damn scru
The diss is good. Regardless of the themes. This was solid.
nope.
@@CarnageUndone yep
This track was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥, no pre recorded bs
we need an eminem album soon
That line "Its not black verse white but right verse wrong." Is a line from Adam Tom and Dax Black and White.
I really like how you have been doing the initial reactions first 👍 you know the real ones stick around for the whole thing 😅 I am sorry I didn’t catch the live’s just usually to busy plus they’re just not my type of thing
I do rewatch tho usually 👍’s up from me
You gonna have a busy day brother lol 😆
Please continue your unbiased opinion Cliff.
as always the best reactor in RUclips ❤️❤️
Cliff, I don't think Scru is saying he's not a part of the culture because he's white (if he is I disagree with that), it's because there are people who say things like "I don't like rap, but I like Em" etc....these peoples almost always have some sort of underlying world view that is anti black. Or, that he expresses values that don't align with hip hop history or culture.
People forget this artform comes from opression. I don't even truly know if Knox is a vulture, but I'm just voicing someone is a volture based on how they treat the community and their world view (ex: Drake is more vulture like than J Cole, but they're both mixed).
Knox grew up in a black neighborhood, and grew with hip hop so he ain't no vulture, but his experiences can be different to black people coz of society but if only black people who who know discrimination and black pain can rap, does rap end when black people stop suffering?
@WeebtasticPrime No ofcourse not, as long as you are respectful to the history and understand it is what matters. Again, I have no idea if Knox is educated on these topics or comes from those backgrounds, I was speaking on general terms.
@gabrielbobowski7767 Yeah, I know, but discrediting the stuff they have done to the culture because they are "white" is kind of an odd hypocritical way to treat stuff, He points out how Knox using the dead black person as a bar is wrong but proceeds to make a similar bar against JFK?
I'm not American, but wasn't he a very strong advocate of civil rights for minorities?
@@WeebtasticPrimeno it’s almost impossible for black to ever not have this angle. 70% of the country is white and 12% is black. Its hard to plead racism case when most of the country don’t even believe it exist. It’s an uphill climb everytime you take this angle true or not.
I was so mad at Kso for that shit. He's always so genuine in his appreciation for guys like Em and H Mack... For him to act like Knox and you are "outsiders"... that was some fucked up shit.
I think Scru faked how much he liked Eminem to get his numbers up
@@damianbrowne847 I think he just rides trends, we prolly never saw his actual likes and dislike much
Broooooo, you NEED to check DK's Scru diss. Best one yet from another person with a history with Scru
Knox already responded
With stalker
He went off on that one
Pre recorded.. second time he did it.. no rebuttals just dropping after.. kinda lame.. still a good track but not addressing anything
@@Im__jujustill cooking scruzino regardless.
@@Im__jujuFax ........at least you have your own mind to think for yourself
He responded but he shouldn't have. At least not as fast, more thought next time
Knowing the situation and your position here bro👏. Most unbiased reaction and i really appreciate your opinion. I agree with you 100. You are goated sir. Scru needs to take the time to watch this. You're a real one
Even youtubers 😂😂Katt Williams really started the purge 🤣🤣🤣
Got to love how scru uses the its not about black vs white its wrong vs right and he is using black vs white through the whole track and using that bar which was used by dax in the verse he did on black and white with tom macdonald and adam calhoun.
I d on't think you're catching what scru is saying, this is less about knox being white, rahter than scru's view of knox being anti-black.
I respect this reaction, scru fan here but we got to keep the reactions unbiased. You did great cliff
Props for actually reacting without picking a side, now that's refreshing. Props
If anything, he tried to prove his own point by going against his own point. As someone who is mixed myself and grew up basically only with the black side of the family, it is very rough when you hear someone attack someone for race regardless of what race they are. He himself says and then contradicts his own colonizer line by saying that he doesn't have to go that deep but he still mentions it and then still ends off by calling him a colonizer like five times. Scru had lost it lol. And then he goes on to say it's not about black and white while still calling out racial stuff that didn't actually happen. It's ridiculous.
Facts I’m in Chicago but I’m right on the edge of Englewood and little village and those areas be crazy
Funny how Knox still responded to this Diss in an hour. its about to get heated, Feel like knox is def gonna come out on top tho
lol it was prerecorded and ready to go.
It was prerecorded Einstein he didn’t respond “within the hour”. lol he didn’t respond to anything Scru said. Y’all really think Knox is all that but he’s wack as hell.
He better start the comeback because scru is up 2-0
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@@glibglob8755 What's it matter that the response is prerecorded? It's still a response within the hour
I like that you clarified the experience with officers was just what you have seen. I’m from the north west suburbs of Chicago and it was primarily white and also a very small town so I have no experience from my younger age. I was in the military for 20 years and never saw anything like that in the military and none of us would have stood for it. We gave everyone equal shit! Stationed in Kansas I never saw police act wrong and we had large crews with all races constantly. So I will never argue it doesn’t happen but I haven’t seen and would not be quite if it did. I do know the south side is different so I’m sure in Chicago it’s crazy. You guys have shootings and stuff daily.
You and Ray- Vibe Reactions are the "Reactor Gods" to me. Both always catch everything, even the way they breath.❤❤🎉🎉🎉lllllll
Bro just keep being unbiased your channel will be huge
3:46 didn't he react to Lil Wayne, The game, Gucci, Breezy, Kendrick etc?
Bro this is fire idk whose side to be on. I’m on your side Cliff for the best reactor ever now 😂!
17:25 there's literally Stevie Knight on the example and a quarter are asian. And there's two or three album/specials in this specific example. Like, I found this stretch and its a rare stretch from March 23 to May 3 2023.
Scru was sleeping in the first but he brought his A game on this one. His flow and cadence was 🔥🔥🔥
Bro you sold me with your realness, following.
SCRUZINO 🤣🤣🤣
#Scruzino
Much better diss than his last. The angle though with all the racial stuff is always weird to me. But hey, thats what scru is known for ig.
You honestly think this was better than the first? If anything it was more direct than the first. If he would have been this direct with the first it probably would have been a big W. But I think Knox up 2 now.
The race angle shows just how weak this diss is
@@andrewtims9524 yea bro. I like scru but this ain’t it.
because there isnt really other angle he can go through, color color color, culture culture culture, maybe some gun bars that's it for him.
He literally said at the end of the track that it’s not about black and white.
They both going hard but it's time for original tracks
I feel you cliff. I was born in Boston in the projects. I was like the only white kid. So I know how it is
Cliff how did you get pulled up between this 😂
Knox responded right after
Pre recorded, he didn't reply to anything scru mentioned
@@abcamacho6187 ye it’s 1-1
@@abcamacho6187exactly.
If we're using this logic then scrus might as well have been pre-recorded, As he came with nothing new and nothing at least people that are slightly into it and paying attention didn't already know about or weren't already aware of. He's just recycling info that's already easily accessible or that has already been addressed
@@abcamacho6187You clearly didn't listen Knox gave lots of rebuttals from scrus track. Including the Tom interview. Lol.
This Knox take that song down with the AA line? That’s wild!
It's wild how many people are overlooking how factual this diss record is
Knox should of replied with a breakdown diss and picked this apart 😂
He doesn’t want to bring more focus to any of what Scru said. It all makes Knox look super bad.
well damn homie
Hip Hop is a sport Scru says, I agree I appreciate the back and forth. From reactions it sounds like Scru moves shady BUT good response
In relation to the disses I'm confused as hell, but I have an anecdote...
I grew up for the most part around other white people, until I became an adult, and was living in London, UK.
I remember leaving a party about 4am with 2 friends who were gonna drop me off at my house and because they knew each other better I went to get into the back of the car, when one asked me to sit in the front and in my drunken, stoned, state asked why, and then immediately felt embarrassed when no-one answered.
In my 20s I used h and crack recreationally for a few years, thinking I'd have it under control, but eventually the h bit me, and I had to ask a black friend to get for me because where I lived in London I only knew black dealers, and they wouldn't sell to me at first. When I eventually could get on my own, I remember the guy who helped me found out and was crying. So much shit.
I love knox. That being said, I think scru is up on this one so far and I didn't even know who he was until like 12 days ago
Disagree he definitely down both rounds
What was Kso saying about Cliff?
Did he quote Dax at the end?
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Shaq said he was referring to where he grew up.
There’s no question scru can rap his ass off! I don’t necessarily agree with what he says but it sounds crazy nice
Damn... wait until Em drops his album and see how many channels cover it... come on... Wonder if Scru will too.. 🙃
"Took another persons diss and took it as a personal attack" first benzino did diss Knox but even then this whole thing is because Knight talked about EZ and Scru took it as a personal attack and talked smack about Stevie. Basically saying him and EZ are so close that to attck one is to attack both lol. Which we now know is farthest thing from true. Still thos diss is good, not win battle good but still respectable. The NF comparison to KH is really good
My boi dont want to fight Stevie legit, prolly catch a faide irl and snitch, cops be having to double cuff Stevie big ass for killing Scru.
The bar that knox said in which he now deleted it was "Jog with me, youll be the next Ahmaud Arbery"
You should also react to the nolifeshaq reaction to this. He lowkey exposes some shit, and clarifies a few things.
I saw his reaction. He did clarify some stuff when the clip about him came up but he didn't expose anything. All he said was he claimed to reach out to screw to offer some kind of help but that was never proven
True, I thought maybe shaq just said some wild stuff or was clipped out of context, but he clarified that he actually still believes what he said and doubled down.
Hold up. Was he talking about Cliff in the supposedly unbiased part where he sair you tapdance for other for money?
i cant wait for people to start checking out DK's scru diss
When Em writes for Dre, do you think he writes the n word down for Dre? "Things just ain't the same for gangstas, times is changing, young ni***s is aging" Because Em wrote the Watcher
Hello Cliff. Hope you're well? Agreed
Was the Eminem and NF line towards Cliff? Cliff thought he dissed them in the first one....
Knox already responded lol
It was prerecorded.
It's definitely prerecorded because he didn't rebuttal anything
@@thedead073 Scru is already 6 feet deep man, the only only thing Scru does is pull the race card the dude is a clown.
@@thedead073nothing to rebuttal on this. Race shit. Corny. And Knox rapped from Scru's perspective on "Stalker" and he brought receipts. This doesn't damage Knox at all. It sounds great and Scru can rap his fuckin' ass off but he didn't say anything of importance like Knox did on the first one. With that said, I prefer Scru sonically over Knox but Knox is smiting Scru lyrically. Dismantling him.
@@glibglob8755Fax😂
Damn! @ 1:10
His beef with Upchurch WAS all about pigment! As is this one! EVERY reactor I have watched has said the SAME thing. Everyone's ears cannot be broken!!!
Honestly, Scru is using a lot of not understanding subtext is language. The quote from Knox about not being a product of hip hop, he's very obviously saying that hip hop is part of who he is on a deeper level. It's just part of his nature. I identify with that. That's part of the culture that not a lot of people acknowledge. The feeling like you have to prove yourself and your love for hip hop before you can be taken seriously. I'm a 6'3 bearded white boy fully sleeved. But look at me crazy when I start talking about some of the Emcees I think are underrated and why.
16:55 id love to hear you react to anything from DizzyEight!
I'm ngl I've always fucked with Scru 🔥 and he got busy on this beat fr. Shoutout to you Cliff for staying unbiased. 🤘🏽
Yeah, you were around bc the Stevie and EZ Mil issue came from the song "The Realest" feat. Eminem. Keep being real Cliff, the real rises to the top
Btw wtf is going on?! Where did this beef come from?
This Scru is lethal! Now we got a match!
I've been watching y'all reactions channel and knew nothing about these beefs 😆 I like scru, you, knox, stevie, shaq....obviously I'm lost in the sauce 😆 🤣
The only thing about the history of hip hop/whatever else, and being an easy search on Google to find the answer. I haven't looked into the history yet, but like many things in history there can be many truths from different sides that lead to an answer. Some history gets lost, until at some point it's rediscovered, or maybe instead it is forgotten. I think as far as music genres go, genres have expanded upon previous genres, so deciding when one genre started and a new one began is tricky. Also because each country/culture may make their own versions of genres that previously existed elsewhere. And as inventions go it's almost impossible even for the 'inventors' to have the very first ideas of what they invent. They instead just make it popular enough with their name attached to the 'invention' to then receive credit for creating that idea.
Anyways, I'm pretty new to the rap/hip-hop genre in general, so I'm sure others have more definitive answers regarding its history, or at least what they perceive to be the true history.
I love that you felt the need to make a comment, because you thought it was important that other people knew that you don't know what you are talking about.
@@okaydetar821 I know very little about hip hop/rap, I’ll admit that. It’s important to admit things you don’t know so you can improve as a person. I didn’t need to comment, but I chose to. Glad that you wanted to respond to my comment. 😁
@@okaydetar821 So, besides a lame diss response to my curiosity, what else do you want to add? I’m curious. 👀
@@blitzcam I hope making a youtube comment isn't how you express curiosity while sitting in front of a computer that could alleviate all that curiosity with a little research. But I am being kinda rude, I do have one thing to add other than a "diss" to your comment: I honestly don't have a great understanding of quantum chromodynamics.
@@okaydetar821 I’ll be honest. I made these comments with the hope of someone explaining a good general history. I could look into it, I guess I’m not curious enough yet to search on the web. This video got me thinking about it, hence my comment.
As for your additional comment. Yeah me neither. I hope someone else joins who can clear up the confusion. 😂
YO you know Atmosphere? I NEVER hear them get mentioned. I mean Tom McDonald mentioned Rhymesayers but no one ever talks about Ant and Slug. Dope midwest rappers. You should react to something from them bro!
So how did all of this start
I've been asking this since it started and no one can give me a solid answer lol
It started how everything started. GOD create Adam and Eve and everything started.
Race. Scru and Kendrick pointing out vultures who are so lost on the culture that they say and do some of the most offensive stuff to and about it while having absolutely no clue they're doing it. If it was knox ppl being shot unarmed he would have never made that mistake of making that a bar. Drake making Tupac sound like a cornball thru AI...and so much more about him shows he's an impersonator.
What was Drake's explanation for the black face image Pusha T used as the cover for the Story of Adidon?
🤔 so when he said " that boy lying if he say he unbiased , he a bluffer" is that to anyone saying they unbiased or? Just curious cus you said his brother going sideways to you. So was it a subliminal towards you or anyone that says that?
Damn! Your babysitter story was rough to listen to! I'm sorry you went thru that as a baby 😢 Hope you're in a better place now 😊 I can't believe Shaq said that ish. It isn't even true!
Shit going crazy rn.
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And Knox reaponded to this one ALREADY?!?! He is crazy!
Did he? Damn. I need to go check it out after this