Before transitioning into more dramatic roles, Jackie Chan during his prime always said: "I love action, but I hate violence." There's definitely a distinction between the two.
jp3813 In a lot of Jackie Chan's older films, you'll notice that he never really kills anyone, and the instances where he's fighting are usually forced upon him
While making The Raid director Gareth Evans asked Yayan Ruhian and Iko Uwais (the movie's stunt coordinators and stars) how THEY would defend themselves in a real life fight. He chuckled and said their answer was always 'land two good hits, then run away'. "They don't want to hurt people!"
Translation: "I, ThrottleVinnieModo, don't know who Jackie Chan is, or any quotes by him. Also, there's definitely no distinction between action and violence ever."
I appreciate the way they portray violence in the Daredevil Netflix series. It seems more realistic than other depictions because it doesn't look easy. It looks like hard exhausting work. It is messy, and people don't go down easily.
Matt definitely takes a beating for sure. I also appreciate the fact he's usually exhausted to the point of collapse, particularly with that now-legendary hallway fight from episode 2.
NeoSquirrel Yeah. They certainly don't glorify violence. They make it appear as something one wouldn't want to do unless one really had to. It is so difficult and messy that it wouldn't even be worth the effort or energy expended unless your life depended on it. Other films always depict strangling deaths as just a couple of seconds of choking. In reality, it takes several minutes of macabre struggle.
Violence doesn't just need to be, well good violence, it also needs an underlying emotional conflict, rather than just being violent for violence sake.
Exactly. I disagree with the video on some elements to it and it misses out the important impact of the use of violence on films in general. Quentin Tarantino, Coens Brothers, Martin Scorsese and other brilliant filmmakers made an interesting interpretations of their view in violence as they used the term story wisely. This video felt a bit more like a wanna be a straight forward action pack with an explosion film making like Michael Bay, Shane Black and mostly Dwayne Johnson's films so to speak. Nevertheless, it's a pretty fun video, not my kind of jam though.
@@jakemetzgar because that too fills a purpose. It's violence as a dance and something to endure and survive. I come at this from a different angle than most I guess, on account of my cPTSD, but it's kind of validating/comforting somehow and refuge in audacity? I know plenty of people live lives are that violent and horrible (gangs, war zones, etc) but mine was more psychological violence reinforced with sporadic and less predictable physical violence. A that over the top violence-fest is cathartic and comforting (because hell at least I have never had anything that bad happen to me). Then again I am the kind of person who would rather endure physical violence than mental. It's kind of like listening to really sad music or watching a sad movie when you need to cry but you're too emotionally constipated and just trapped in this fog of awful and self loathing. I kind of wonder if that is why Americans are so fond of violence in their movies: they endure a lot of violence growing up, both from their parents (it is illegal to hit/spank your children where I grew up, and has been since 1966. [Not that it helped me but shutting me up was what the psychological abuse was for, to make me feel I deserved it, had forced their hand, and wouldn't snitch]) and from their environment growing up, like the bullies in schools and being treated terribly at school with no dignity on account of the lack of sufficient school resources. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment_in_the_home#Effects_on_behavior_and_development Violence for the sake of violence in movies like The Raid still has far more consequences than in Hollywood action movies. People actually suffer and die in that movie, and that resonates with my experiences. It's like a cathartic lucid nightmare that brings you some sense of closure. Similarly, I really enjoyed the Judge Dredd version of The Raid. I also have always had a love for noir stories, which I had personally just chalked up to that the main character in those are usually semi-functional losers who despite that still get to get shit done even if at a terrible cost, but this video essay gives me a deeper appreciation for it.
@@guillermo7298 Its one of the best bad film in the recent history. Aliens(predators) coming to Earth to get autism, the over the top action(with not the best CGI) and the banter. Also a few good deaths, like the Coyle and Keyes scene. So bad, but at the same time so good.
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Been feeling a little uninspired recently as an aspiring filmmaker and coming back to this channel and reminds me why I want to get into making films. Thank you. Please never stop.
Nice Guys was really good, Shane Black is a master of Comedy Noir. Not as witty and fast paced as Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, but it did everything right in being what it was.
Drive made the violence feel more shocking and dangerous than most movies. It has such a slow pace so when violence erupts unexpectedly the viewer feels the same shock and fear as the characters.
@@mymicks21 Exactly. In Drive the violence has a purpose as each violent act that occurs affects a character or the storyline. There is a never a moment where someone is just killed or hurt because of pointless action.
Something Wes craven said does relate to this when he submitted the first scream movie to the MPAA they told him to cut a few frames out of the cameraman kenny’s death because it was too “real” and disturbing and Wes’s reply was: “it’s murder it’s supposed to be disturbing.”
Nikita Kon That's very nice of you to say! But I feel a bit odd chatting about it on someone else's channel. I try never to be "that" RUclips person who self-promotes everywhere.
+ CINEMA LOVER Not to mention... The Last Prostitute. (Featuring Wil Wheaton before he hit the big time on Star Trek TNG as the legendary Wesley Crusher)
Reluctant Couch the movie was horribly fantastic! Lol! Man! I didn't want it to end! My mind is blown on why I didn't watch it sooner! If it wasn't for your comment & reply, I wouldn't have watched it- for that, sir, I thank you! Man, what a treat that movie was/is. Loved every minute of that movie, I love the style it was directed, all the hijinx(if that's correct) were so awesome.. the realistic ways moments happened, along with the comedic tone but with a noir dark tone.. once again, thank you for your input! Wonderful movie! I can't complain about a thing from this movie unless I nit pick.. even then it's not worthwhile since it was such a great movie.. that movie went into my top 10 movies. Maybe top 5.. I thoroughly enjoyed it, I'll put this movie in my ranks next to Reservoir Dogs, and (please don't fault me) Get Shorty, I love that movie too, has that same tone too.. thank you, once again.
I legit love the moment the missiles hit the house in Iron Man 3. The effect was amazing and I teared up a little when Tony's first action is to protect Pepper.
I envy you so very much! Your videos are all works of art in their own sense. You have created a style that has to be mastered. One wrong move could make the video crappy but you execute it perfectly. I have been making films on and off for a few years, but none have touched or recreated the feeling that I get while watching you videos. Watching them twice or three times is necessary because the first of second time around I'm looking at the way you execute the editing in your videos. My favorite parts are when you highlight text or move around a page. It creates a very calm and smooth video effect. Moving past your video/editing style, the message of your videos of the point you make is so clear and puts everything in to perspective very well. You probably admire other creators of film makers for their work, but I admire you for yours. Thanks for making my day a tiny bit better and putting effort into your work which is hard to come by now a days.
Consequential is such a great way to put it, too. Every death is connected directly to another event... Hell, even some character traits directly lead to character's deaths--- like Vincent Vega's heroin addiction>>>toilet all the time>>>>Pop Tarts and Travolta goes flying. Bridget Fonda getting blown away by DeNiro>>>Deniro getting blown away by Sam Jackson. People typically are not just frivolously killed like we see in some films.
***** The one that immediately came to mind was the scene in Inglourious Basterds in the underground German bar where like half the cast dies and the other scene at the end where all but two characters die.
This came up on my recommendations. "I already saw this one right?" *click "Yeah I already saw this one." Watched the entire thing again and enjoyed it, again. You do good work my dude.
I've been watching your video's since 50k subscribers, and your content hasn't changed one bit. that isn't a bad thing, in fact its amazing because the level of quality was, and still is, incredibly high. keep up the good work!
If you want to see violence done right and in a realistic fashion, make sure to watch Park Chan-wook's 2002 masterpiece - 'Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance'.
Thanks for the Captain America: Winter Soldier/Russo Brothers shoutout at 1:50. I'm in total agreement, their fights are heads and shoulders above the muddy bombast that passes for final battles, etc, in other superhero movies. I particularly loved that highway fight scene between Cap and Winter Soldier in CATWS. It may actually be my favorite hand-to-hand fight in film EVER.
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A great example of awkward, realistic violence that I saw this year was Green Room. The way that they did violence in that film (as well as the director's previous film, Blue Ruin), felt real in a way I have not seen portrayed in a long time, and it was one of the most nail-biting and horrific experiences that I've had in a theater.
Man of Steel fight scenes are among the best comic book fight scenes ever! The choreography takes their superpowers and exploits them as much as possible! The way Zod and Clark move all around the city and focus just on defeating each other is very well shot and gives the audience feeling that this fight is a fight between two gods. Captain America's fight in Winter Soldier was amazingly choreographed as well but those two cannot be compared whatsoever since Cap and Winter Soldier are basically just tuned people that's all.
Interesting how you never mentioned the Coen brothers once in this video. I feel they marry violence and narrative progression with great nuance. Their films often take place in hermetic worlds which are pierced by humour and realism through very brutal violence, but a violence which is never aimless nor tedious. Fargo and No Country For Old Men are perfect examples of this.
Man I love your videos so damn much it's unreal, yours is one of the most enlightening channels on RUclips not just in terms of film & other mediums of art, but real world things too, that video you did a few weeks ago on stories controlling the economic reality was amazing.
This channel is so incredibly smart, entertaining, and well produced. I cannot say enough how this should be the standard of all review and commentary based content.
You are brilliant and highly underrated. Every video I've watched on your channel has been a quality ass video and I can see the effort you put into each one. Keep it up man, I'm extremely excited to see what's next for you!
Question: How did you get to use Al Green's song? Did you pay royalties, or is it simply that your channel isn't monetized and you don't need to worry about use of music thus? :) Great video btw, shared it on my Facebook account :)
Unsolicited Orginal Movie Scripts! Nerdwriter, What happened to originality in Hollywood? You touch on the fact that Hollywood in the 1980s and 1990s saw a real demand for these UOMS. I think you should make a video exploring this bygone trend that gave us so many memorable films. Films that are entirely new and without any connection to previous works. To me, the 1980s and 1990s was a kind of golden era for films and most importantly for writers. Why is this no longer in demand? How have audiences changed since then? I feel this is an important topic that needs addressing! Everything now seems to be a remake or a sequel or spinoff. I think audiences are fed up with the trend of unoriginal cash grab films, preying on their nostalgia. Audiences need to be reminded of greater times. Star Wars for example, is great, don't get me wrong, but we need to think about making movies that are better than Star Wars. Not just new Star Wars films. In the 1970s, George Lucas aspired to make something new and different. He succeeded. However, it is now 40 years later and we are still using his outdated formula via the new trilogy. Where's the innovation in that? Films are supposed to be new and challenging, reflecting our changing world. An enlightening reflection of the audience. Or should we really be asking: What happeded to the audience? Nerdwriter, I would love to see you explore this more. Thank you for your quality content.
So about 15 years back or so, I went to this bar because they had a great karaoke setup. Place was sorta quiet and there was a small group of people playing pool. It was about an hour into the night while a guy was singing that two guys were yammering at each other. One was standing about two feet from the table and he's about to throw a punch when he trips. Now this was happening really fast, but the funny thing about this trip was that he fell forward and his head just happened to be in the way of the corner of the pool table until it hit, and that's when he slammed right back hard on the floor. The medics came in about 15 minutes later, quickly followed by the cops who arrested him and the show was suspended for about 40, 50 minutes. First time at this bar.
touches with EveryframeaPainting Jackie Chan video at some points. Great analysis looking at film violence from a different perspective. When it comes to hard hitting violence Tarantino and the Raid Films. I think we want to do an analysis on the raid berandal at some point.
Shane Black didn't write Lethal Weapon 2, he just got credit due to the Guild's weird rules. He talks about it in the press tour he did for Nice Guys, specifically this Writers Panel episode but I've heard it a couple other places: nerdist.com/the-writers-panel-272-shane-black/
Beautiful essay; illuminating, fun, and now I have a couple more movies to run down. I believe this is the tool of the good writer... using the rules of good fiction writing; you show what is inside the character/s by dialogue or action, never by just telling the reader. I also love putting the humanity in a character, most especially letting them be clumsy, embarrassed. I see violence as also tempo, mood, and insight if done on a personal level between two who are alone. Again, my favorite. Privacy is a place where its fun to let the less familiar, and less correct actions take place.
Thank you for this, I didn't know Shane Black was behind this little gems Lethal weapon, The nice guys, The long kiss goodnight, Last action hero, The last boy scout or Kiss kiss bang bang; nice surprise
Something that kinda pisses me off in movies is when violence is watered down, cutting the '''graphic parts'' to make it not so uncomfortable to watch, maybe even contradicting the purpose of the movie. I'm not a sadist, and i know that not every movie needs to be Cannibal Holocaust, but some people seem to interpret not showing violence, at least not in it's entirety, as ''clever direction'' and graphic violence as unnecessary and lazy filmmaking. You can do violence very, very poorly, of course, but i believe it's also a powerful tool directors and writers shouldn't shy away from. In Sicario, for example, the first scene ends with an explosion that has no consequence in the movie, but it sets the tone perfectly, the whole thing wouldn't feel the same without it. To me, film can show violence much more creatively and effectively than any other medium, and i would like to see more filmmakers do just that.
I'm not a fan of graphic violence funily enough but I love the Lord of the Rings for how graphic it is despite its age rating. But then again if you watch Peter Jacksons earlier films liek Braindead you understand why so many head and limbs are getting hacked off, why orcs are getting impaled by shields and why the battles just hit so hard.
I feel like Iron Man 3 would have been great if it wasn't Iron Man. Like, the film had a lot of cool elements to it but for Tony Stark it was such a shift of pace for him as a character and the whole process of him getting surgery and a way too bow-tied ending.
Going of those few seconds shown there. The camera movements add weight to each hit, it swings with each character's body as they move the hit the other one. Like how screen shaking in games makes your actions feel heavier. Compare that to the clip of Man of Steel which just shows a fight that really would be far weightier, without really conveying that weight to the audience. You can also see just how well the directors of The Winter Soldier understand the audience's eye movements with each shot. In that bit where Cap jumps at Bucky, you see Cap jump from right to left, cut as his leg in in the middle of the frame to a shot of Bucky's chest in the exact same part of the frame, in that second you see the projectile and its target and understand it perfectly, next cut shows Cap colliding with Bucky, in the chest, as shown by the editing. It "flows" well. In the Man of Steel clip, you see Zod jump into frame from nowhere, left to right, uppercut Supes, sending him straight up, at a right angle to Zod's own movement. Then in the next shot we have Supes getting flung from bottom right to bottom left, then cut again to have the camera above Superman and there's a slight top left to bottom right movement. There's no consistency to the action, you're getting eyeball whiplash just by trying to follow it.
I wholeheartedly disagree with anyone who thinks he's the best at violence. It's almost always a poor aping of what's been done before. Kill Bill is a cringeworthy bad example of martial arts violence. It's an OP character who is one of the least convincing martial artists ever put on film doing a cartoonish dance that kills dozens of people. I honestly just don't get it.
I think he means that with CA there's more authenticity in the violence than with MoS, as in even though cap is superhuman those punches still hurt and he still has to struggle whereas Superman can get punched over a building and remain unscathed. I think part of that is because he's freaking Superman but regardless CA does a better job of getting a "That's gotta hurt" kind of reaction from the audience than MoS. It isn't perfect though (he references the fight between the avengers where it's pretty obvious there isn't much at stake in terms of physicality, main superheroes fighting other main superheroes it becomes obvious that death isn't a possibility and that takes away from the violence) I could be totally wrong but I think this is what he was trying to get at.
I agree that Snyder's direction feels out of place in the DCU. I used to really dig his style in 300 and Watchmen, but it doesn't seem appropriate for an official cinematic universe. Marvel has created a better sense of cohesion in their universe because they seem to have developed a standard style for their films and then forced their writers and directors to be creative within that box. It's been a bit of a controversial approach, what with Edgar Wright being turned off by the amount of control... but it's gotten results. The MCU feels cohesive and appropriate for an official representation of the characters and stories. The DC cinematic universe feels so strange and uneven. When I watch BvS, i don't get the sense that I'm watching an official DC cinematic universe. I feel like I'm watching some strange experiment that a maverick director who happens to be a crazy DC fan did on a "What if?" lark and it just happened to get a huge budget. It's... interesting, but at the same time, it doesn't feel right. I feel like I should have the real cinematic universe movies to switch over to and say, "Oh, ok, this is the ACTUAL version. That crazy. nightmarish version was interesting, but I'm glad we have the sane version to come back to." But alas...
I would imagine it has less to do with the choreography/cgi ect and more to do with the way the winter soldier fights build tension and keep you in suspense while the MoS fight leave you feeling exhausted and depressed.
I'm never disappointed, or feel as if I wasted time watching your videos. I cannot imagine the effort you endure to bring us entertainment. I wish you the best of luck my friend. thank you for all of the awesome breakdowns.
Before transitioning into more dramatic roles, Jackie Chan during his prime always said: "I love action, but I hate violence." There's definitely a distinction between the two.
jp3813 In a lot of Jackie Chan's older films, you'll notice that he never really kills anyone, and the instances where he's fighting are usually forced upon him
While making The Raid director Gareth Evans asked Yayan Ruhian and Iko Uwais (the movie's stunt coordinators and stars) how THEY would defend themselves in a real life fight. He chuckled and said their answer was always 'land two good hits, then run away'. "They don't want to hurt people!"
Translation: "I, ThrottleVinnieModo, don't know who Jackie Chan is, or any quotes by him. Also, there's definitely no distinction between action and violence ever."
I appreciate the way they portray violence in the Daredevil Netflix series. It seems more realistic than other depictions because it doesn't look easy. It looks like hard exhausting work. It is messy, and people don't go down easily.
Matt definitely takes a beating for sure. I also appreciate the fact he's usually exhausted to the point of collapse, particularly with that now-legendary hallway fight from episode 2.
Yes!! I was just about to comment the same thing when I saw this haha
NeoSquirrel Yeah. They certainly don't glorify violence. They make it appear as something one wouldn't want to do unless one really had to. It is so difficult and messy that it wouldn't even be worth the effort or energy expended unless your life depended on it. Other films always depict strangling deaths as just a couple of seconds of choking. In reality, it takes several minutes of macabre struggle.
Exactly. That's why Daredevil is the Marvel comic adaption that I like the most.
watch old boy, the original not the Hollywood shit one.
that scene in Nice Guys is a comedic gold, that movie is freakin' hilarious
Violence doesn't just need to be, well good violence, it also needs an underlying emotional conflict, rather than just being violent for violence sake.
Exactly. I disagree with the video on some elements to it and it misses out the important impact of the use of violence on films in general. Quentin Tarantino, Coens Brothers, Martin Scorsese and other brilliant filmmakers made an interesting interpretations of their view in violence as they used the term story wisely. This video felt a bit more like a wanna be a straight forward action pack with an explosion film making like Michael Bay, Shane Black and mostly Dwayne Johnson's films so to speak. Nevertheless, it's a pretty fun video, not my kind of jam though.
Elemental_Phoenix that’s why I hate The Raid - it’s just violent for the sake of being violent, but for some reason a lot of people like it
Different meals ... Depends what you want/need atm
@@jakemetzgar because that too fills a purpose. It's violence as a dance and something to endure and survive. I come at this from a different angle than most I guess, on account of my cPTSD, but it's kind of validating/comforting somehow and refuge in audacity? I know plenty of people live lives are that violent and horrible (gangs, war zones, etc) but mine was more psychological violence reinforced with sporadic and less predictable physical violence. A that over the top violence-fest is cathartic and comforting (because hell at least I have never had anything that bad happen to me). Then again I am the kind of person who would rather endure physical violence than mental. It's kind of like listening to really sad music or watching a sad movie when you need to cry but you're too emotionally constipated and just trapped in this fog of awful and self loathing. I kind of wonder if that is why Americans are so fond of violence in their movies: they endure a lot of violence growing up, both from their parents (it is illegal to hit/spank your children where I grew up, and has been since 1966. [Not that it helped me but shutting me up was what the psychological abuse was for, to make me feel I deserved it, had forced their hand, and wouldn't snitch]) and from their environment growing up, like the bullies in schools and being treated terribly at school with no dignity on account of the lack of sufficient school resources. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment_in_the_home#Effects_on_behavior_and_development
Violence for the sake of violence in movies like The Raid still has far more consequences than in Hollywood action movies. People actually suffer and die in that movie, and that resonates with my experiences. It's like a cathartic lucid nightmare that brings you some sense of closure. Similarly, I really enjoyed the Judge Dredd version of The Raid. I also have always had a love for noir stories, which I had personally just chalked up to that the main character in those are usually semi-functional losers who despite that still get to get shit done even if at a terrible cost, but this video essay gives me a deeper appreciation for it.
Absolutely
Excellent. "awkward violence" - I like that.
Apparently Shane Black has been a favourite of mine without me even realising
Me too, I don't know how to feel about it either.
Ivo Sotirov that's a massive oversight on your part.
Until you realize predator 2018
@@guillermo7298 Its one of the best bad film in the recent history. Aliens(predators) coming to Earth to get autism, the over the top action(with not the best CGI) and the banter. Also a few good deaths, like the Coyle and Keyes scene. So bad, but at the same time so good.
But on the other note, it obviously works better as a comedy and not a predator movie, which is sad, because at least for now the franchise is dead.
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I think he meant "binging"
no, he meant bidging, goddamdit.
Then you should try watching "Every frame a painting".
Then bidge "Darren Must See Films", bidge him good.
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Russell Crowe is turning into John Goodman.
He might've pass recent John Goodman
It's so true.
there has to be one John Goodman on the planet at all times.
If there is ever a Rosanne prequel or reboot ya know who to call.
RIP John Goodman
Been feeling a little uninspired recently as an aspiring filmmaker and coming back to this channel and reminds me why I want to get into making films. Thank you. Please never stop.
Nice Guys was really good, Shane Black is a master of Comedy Noir. Not as witty and fast paced as Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, but it did everything right in being what it was.
Really wanted to go see The Nice Guys but theatres near me were only showing it at Stupid o'clock at night
Then you should've went at stupid o'clock! This is not an excuse. The movie is a masterpiece and it bombed. You helped that to happen!
Some of us have to wake up early in the morning
it bombed because of shitty marketing.
Hamsaphina Every day of the week? Keep telling yourself that!
+rapata31 hey maybe consider learning manners
Drive does a fantastic job of only using violence for a purpose, and the film shows the effects of violence both physically and psychologically.
Noah exactly the movie i was thinking about while watching the video
Drive made the violence feel more shocking and dangerous than most movies. It has such a slow pace so when violence erupts unexpectedly the viewer feels the same shock and fear as the characters.
@@mymicks21 Exactly. In Drive the violence has a purpose as each violent act that occurs affects a character or the storyline. There is a never a moment where someone is just killed or hurt because of pointless action.
Something Wes craven said does relate to this when he submitted the first scream movie to the MPAA they told him to cut a few frames out of the cameraman kenny’s death because it was too “real” and disturbing and Wes’s reply was: “it’s murder it’s supposed to be disturbing.”
Last Kiss Goodnight is such a good movie, and it's often overlooked.
Nikita Kon The Nerdwriter is seriously one of the channels I wish I was good enough to be even a little bit like. :)
Nikita Kon That's very nice of you to say! But I feel a bit odd chatting about it on someone else's channel. I try never to be "that" RUclips person who self-promotes everywhere.
so is the last boy scout
agreed
+ CINEMA LOVER Not to mention... The Last Prostitute. (Featuring Wil Wheaton before he hit the big time on Star Trek TNG as the legendary Wesley Crusher)
Nice guys is my favorite movie of 2016
Reluctant Couch is it that good? I hear about it a lot- but, I can't pull through to watch it.
Above Beyond It's mostly my favorite because of how different it is from most other movies in writing, style, and blocking
Thanks, I'm going to give it a go.
Reluctant Couch the movie was horribly fantastic! Lol! Man! I didn't want it to end! My mind is blown on why I didn't watch it sooner! If it wasn't for your comment & reply, I wouldn't have watched it- for that, sir, I thank you! Man, what a treat that movie was/is. Loved every minute of that movie, I love the style it was directed, all the hijinx(if that's correct) were so awesome.. the realistic ways moments happened, along with the comedic tone but with a noir dark tone.. once again, thank you for your input! Wonderful movie! I can't complain about a thing from this movie unless I nit pick.. even then it's not worthwhile since it was such a great movie.. that movie went into my top 10 movies. Maybe top 5.. I thoroughly enjoyed it, I'll put this movie in my ranks next to Reservoir Dogs, and (please don't fault me) Get Shorty, I love that movie too, has that same tone too.. thank you, once again.
The witch is my fav one, second by The nice guys
I legit love the moment the missiles hit the house in Iron Man 3. The effect was amazing and I teared up a little when Tony's first action is to protect Pepper.
'Fuck the Angry Birds' indeed
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The Nice Guys is by far my favorite movie of 2016, so far anyway.
There's like, only 15 more days left. I doubt Rogue One or something else will be the one to satisfy you more.
I really really like this image
The Nice Guys is a great movie. 2 fantastic videos in a row, awesome job Evan.
Love and happiness at the ending is a stroke of brilliance. Love that song.
I envy you so very much! Your videos are all works of art in their own sense. You have created a style that has to be mastered. One wrong move could make the video crappy but you execute it perfectly. I have been making films on and off for a few years, but none have touched or recreated the feeling that I get while watching you videos. Watching them twice or three times is necessary because the first of second time around I'm looking at the way you execute the editing in your videos. My favorite parts are when you highlight text or move around a page. It creates a very calm and smooth video effect. Moving past your video/editing style, the message of your videos of the point you make is so clear and puts everything in to perspective very well. You probably admire other creators of film makers for their work, but I admire you for yours. Thanks for making my day a tiny bit better and putting effort into your work which is hard to come by now a days.
What about Quentin Tarantino violence?
totally different, gratuitous and beautiful while shockingly consequential.
obscure reference That's a fair way to put it.
Consequential is such a great way to put it, too.
Every death is connected directly to another event... Hell, even some character traits directly lead to character's deaths--- like Vincent Vega's heroin addiction>>>toilet all the time>>>>Pop Tarts and Travolta goes flying. Bridget Fonda getting blown away by DeNiro>>>Deniro getting blown away by Sam Jackson. People typically are not just frivolously killed like we see in some films.
***** The one that immediately came to mind was the scene in Inglourious Basterds in the underground German bar where like half the cast dies and the other scene at the end where all but two characters die.
"BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH FUN JAAAN!"
Your videos are so legit. Thanks for the hard work.
*NOT DEVASATATING*.
NerdWriter pls.
Ikr!? hhahaha
DarkCyberElf (Mylon Requiem) You're right!!! I didn't even notice that at first and I usually do notice things like that!
DarkCyberElf (Mylon Requiem) I think he means consequential
Yes, that is demotivatating :'( from a Nerd Writer XD just a lapsus.
What is the issue here? Is it an improper use of that word for the context?
This came up on my recommendations. "I already saw this one right?" *click "Yeah I already saw this one."
Watched the entire thing again and enjoyed it, again. You do good work my dude.
I've been watching your video's since 50k subscribers, and your content hasn't changed one bit. that isn't a bad thing, in fact its amazing because the level of quality was, and still is, incredibly high. keep up the good work!
QUENTIN TARANTINO
Damn straight
hell fucking yes
Seriously, if you're gonna talk about movie violence do it with a director who Literally makes blood shower out from people's necks.
TARANTULINO!
Quarantine Tarantula
"To the birds?"
Lol, I see what you did there
If you want to see violence done right and in a realistic fashion, make sure to watch Park Chan-wook's 2002 masterpiece - 'Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance'.
My favorite of the trilogy
Mine too.
another approach worth checking out (only few scenes with violence) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Valley
absolutely love this film! i was thinking about it through the whole video... the violence in that movie is truly devastating
I totally agree with you!!
I feel like this is one of your best videos so far, mostly because it feels like you're not taking yourself too seriously. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the Captain America: Winter Soldier/Russo Brothers shoutout at 1:50. I'm in total agreement, their fights are heads and shoulders above the muddy bombast that passes for final battles, etc, in other superhero movies. I particularly loved that highway fight scene between Cap and Winter Soldier in CATWS. It may actually be my favorite hand-to-hand fight in film EVER.
"But..but, he's black!" God, I love Lethal Weapon 2. Watching that Apartheid house take a dive off the cliff was pure art.
Missnewbienoob ahah I think that’s my favorite of the series
I'm really sensitive about my wrists so that first clip got me shook.
My dude, I found your videos in my recommendations, and I don't regret clicking on the first video! :)
if you like his stuff, you should check out Channel Criswell and Every Frame a Painting - both are amazing channels with similar themes and different content :)
Thanks for the recs!
1:41 - one of my favorite songs by Herb Alpert & The TIjuana Brass: Green Peppers! Pleasant surprise to find it in here.
Been going on a "little" binge of your stuff and I'm loving. I'd love to see a collaboration of some kind with Tony from Every frame a painting
A great example of awkward, realistic violence that I saw this year was Green Room. The way that they did violence in that film (as well as the director's previous film, Blue Ruin), felt real in a way I have not seen portrayed in a long time, and it was one of the most nail-biting and horrific experiences that I've had in a theater.
Man of Steel fight scenes are among the best comic book fight scenes ever! The choreography takes their superpowers and exploits them as much as possible! The way Zod and Clark move all around the city and focus just on defeating each other is very well shot and gives the audience feeling that this fight is a fight between two gods. Captain America's fight in Winter Soldier was amazingly choreographed as well but those two cannot be compared whatsoever since Cap and Winter Soldier are basically just tuned people that's all.
Shane black is one of our greatest screenwriters. The Last Boy Scout is a violent brilliant movie
This channel is a god send.... I've been watching you for like 2 hours straight. Keep this up, this is actually amazing.
Dude I just found your channel and its the best thing ever. I'm going on a hard binge right now.
Please do a video on my fantastic directing skills. My prequel films are masterpieces.
I checked Rotten Tomatoes, it says that he will direct The Predator (2018)...that sounds promising
OH MAN! I'm super excited for that then!
DKlarations Please check him in RT, to make sure I was not dreaming xD
Benjamin gutierrez oriol YUP! presently in pre-production
DKlarations SWEEEEET! :D
So you are excited for yet another sequel in this age of franchises and reboots?
You are really beyond help...
Interesting how you never mentioned the Coen brothers once in this video. I feel they marry violence and narrative progression with great nuance. Their films often take place in hermetic worlds which are pierced by humour and realism through very brutal violence, but a violence which is never aimless nor tedious. Fargo and No Country For Old Men are perfect examples of this.
Man I love your videos so damn much it's unreal, yours is one of the most enlightening channels on RUclips not just in terms of film & other mediums of art, but real world things too, that video you did a few weeks ago on stories controlling the economic reality was amazing.
This channel is so incredibly smart, entertaining, and well produced. I cannot say enough how this should be the standard of all review and commentary based content.
Thank you for not showing the entirety of the "pencil" scene from The Dark Knight.
can you please do an analysis on Khalil Gibran's The Prophet or Antoine de Saint-Exupéry's The Little Prince please ?
"The Nice Guys" has to be one of the best comedy movies of the last 5 years
Another really good video. You have a knack for putting into words something I can feel when I watch a film, but can't articulate into words.
You are brilliant and highly underrated. Every video I've watched on your channel has been a quality ass video and I can see the effort you put into each one. Keep it up man, I'm extremely excited to see what's next for you!
Opening song the tempations papa was a rolling stone!
SmithersBly what about the ending song?
Question: How did you get to use Al Green's song? Did you pay royalties, or is it simply that your channel isn't monetized and you don't need to worry about use of music thus? :) Great video btw, shared it on my Facebook account :)
He pays royalties
Zen Dragon 9
his videos are not monetized
@@kamals.4638 yes they are
ok but what's the song nameeeee i neeeeed itttt
Unsolicited Orginal Movie Scripts!
Nerdwriter,
What happened to originality in Hollywood? You touch on the fact that Hollywood in the 1980s and 1990s saw a real demand for these UOMS. I think you should make a video exploring this bygone trend that gave us so many memorable films. Films that are entirely new and without any connection to previous works. To me, the 1980s and 1990s was a kind of golden era for films and most importantly for writers. Why is this no longer in demand? How have audiences changed since then? I feel this is an important topic that needs addressing! Everything now seems to be a remake or a sequel or spinoff.
I think audiences are fed up with the trend of unoriginal cash grab films, preying on their nostalgia. Audiences need to be reminded of greater times.
Star Wars for example, is great, don't get me wrong, but we need to think about making movies that are better than Star Wars. Not just new Star Wars films. In the 1970s, George Lucas aspired to make something new and different. He succeeded. However, it is now 40 years later and we are still using his outdated formula via the new trilogy. Where's the innovation in that? Films are supposed to be new and challenging, reflecting our changing world. An enlightening reflection of the audience.
Or should we really be asking: What happeded to the audience?
Nerdwriter, I would love to see you explore this more.
Thank you for your quality content.
awesome video . the editing particularly the way you placed the last scene of the nice guys was just brilliant. And stuff
fantastic editing in this one!! looking back its crazy to see how much his style has changed
Nice guys was such a great movie!
In a story, violence needs to have both purpose and consequences ... and if collateral damage is included, makes the violence that much more real.
Michael Haneke understands how to responsibly portray violence in film, just look at 'Cache'
So about 15 years back or so, I went to this bar because they had a great karaoke setup. Place was sorta quiet and there was a small group of people playing pool. It was about an hour into the night while a guy was singing that two guys were yammering at each other. One was standing about two feet from the table and he's about to throw a punch when he trips. Now this was happening really fast, but the funny thing about this trip was that he fell forward and his head just happened to be in the way of the corner of the pool table until it hit, and that's when he slammed right back hard on the floor. The medics came in about 15 minutes later, quickly followed by the cops who arrested him and the show was suspended for about 40, 50 minutes. First time at this bar.
Sounds straight out of a shane black movie
i have to say, you always pick the best music for your epilogues
Movie Violence Done Right...
First thing came to mind:
"THE RAID!!!!!"
touches with EveryframeaPainting Jackie Chan video at some points. Great analysis looking at film violence from a different perspective.
When it comes to hard hitting violence Tarantino and the Raid Films. I think we want to do an analysis on the raid berandal at some point.
You're right Nerdwriter. Fuck the Angry Birds.
4:00 that editing was perfect!
Great video if I have not said that before. Shane Black's back and forth word play is amazing too
i saw nice guys in theaters!!!
Shane Black didn't write Lethal Weapon 2, he just got credit due to the Guild's weird rules.
He talks about it in the press tour he did for Nice Guys, specifically this Writers Panel episode but I've heard it a couple other places: nerdist.com/the-writers-panel-272-shane-black/
I personally loved the Angry Birds Movie and it's portrayal of racial inequality and dark undertones. It's the wake up call America needs
Beautiful essay; illuminating, fun, and now I have a couple more movies to run down. I believe this is the tool of the good writer... using the rules of good fiction writing; you show what is inside the character/s by dialogue or action, never by just telling the reader. I also love putting the humanity in a character, most especially letting them be clumsy, embarrassed. I see violence as also tempo, mood, and insight if done on a personal level between two who are alone. Again, my favorite. Privacy is a place where its fun to let the less familiar, and less correct actions take place.
great job upping the quality of these vids. The animation is killing it
Analysis of Channel Orange by Frank Ocean please! Great work Evan :)
Fuck the Angry Birds indeed.
kiss kiss bang bang is fucking awesome. love that movie
Thank you for this, I didn't know Shane Black was behind this little gems Lethal weapon, The nice guys, The long kiss goodnight, Last action hero, The last boy scout or Kiss kiss bang bang; nice surprise
Your voice is so soothing and I fell like I understand everything even if I really don't and I love it
Damn the closure of the video was good.
Something that kinda pisses me off in movies is when violence is watered down, cutting the '''graphic parts'' to make it not so uncomfortable to watch, maybe even contradicting the purpose of the movie. I'm not a sadist, and i know that not every movie needs to be Cannibal Holocaust, but some people seem to interpret not showing violence, at least not in it's entirety, as ''clever direction'' and graphic violence as unnecessary and lazy filmmaking. You can do violence very, very poorly, of course, but i believe it's also a powerful tool directors and writers shouldn't shy away from. In Sicario, for example, the first scene ends with an explosion that has no consequence in the movie, but it sets the tone perfectly, the whole thing wouldn't feel the same without it.
To me, film can show violence much more creatively and effectively than any other medium, and i would like to see more filmmakers do just that.
I'm not a fan of graphic violence funily enough but I love the Lord of the Rings for how graphic it is despite its age rating. But then again if you watch Peter Jacksons earlier films liek Braindead you understand why so many head and limbs are getting hacked off, why orcs are getting impaled by shields and why the battles just hit so hard.
I feel like Iron Man 3 would have been great if it wasn't Iron Man. Like, the film had a lot of cool elements to it but for Tony Stark it was such a shift of pace for him as a character and the whole process of him getting surgery and a way too bow-tied ending.
Some nice editing here! Talking about the bit of violence visiting quiet places
2:10
it's extremely weird hearing someone say "2022" like it's a long way away
It's Wednesday and there's no video. I'm a little sad now.
It is now fucking Thursday. I'm experiencing withdrawal
What was that ending song?
Looked it up myself
Al Green Love and Happiness
"You all everybody" Driveshaft
darude sandstorm.
"Love and Happiness" by Al Green.
That shit sounds smooth dosent it ;)
1:53 O please no.... At least give a clear explanation with examples because I still don't understand why anyone finds it even passable.
you should be seeing it yourself. why was the winter soldier best mcu movie yet?
Going of those few seconds shown there.
The camera movements add weight to each hit, it swings with each character's body as they move the hit the other one. Like how screen shaking in games makes your actions feel heavier. Compare that to the clip of Man of Steel which just shows a fight that really would be far weightier, without really conveying that weight to the audience.
You can also see just how well the directors of The Winter Soldier understand the audience's eye movements with each shot. In that bit where Cap jumps at Bucky, you see Cap jump from right to left, cut as his leg in in the middle of the frame to a shot of Bucky's chest in the exact same part of the frame, in that second you see the projectile and its target and understand it perfectly, next cut shows Cap colliding with Bucky, in the chest, as shown by the editing. It "flows" well. In the Man of Steel clip, you see Zod jump into frame from nowhere, left to right, uppercut Supes, sending him straight up, at a right angle to Zod's own movement. Then in the next shot we have Supes getting flung from bottom right to bottom left, then cut again to have the camera above Superman and there's a slight top left to bottom right movement. There's no consistency to the action, you're getting eyeball whiplash just by trying to follow it.
Mike Cunningham holy moly i'd never go to those heights...
you are a literal god.
Oğulcan ACAR Don't feed my ego too much pal. I'm just explaining what I see :)
no no no. you and nerdwiter should make up a team or somethin
I appreciate your videos man, helps me think when I'm writing screenplays
The Herp Albert is great in that montage... I love your sense of humor!
you should make a video about the naked gun comedy
Stop making me love you so much.
Why can't I quit you Nerdwriter?
Nice profile pic.
Quentin Tarantino is the best at violence.
I wholeheartedly disagree with anyone who thinks he uses it in an elementary way.
His violence is one of the main reasons why I seek out his films.
It's so different from anything else.
He good at copying those who have gone before, except, he doesn't stop there, he makes it his own. I think thats why he is so good at it.
I wholeheartedly disagree with anyone who thinks he's the best at violence. It's almost always a poor aping of what's been done before. Kill Bill is a cringeworthy bad example of martial arts violence. It's an OP character who is one of the least convincing martial artists ever put on film doing a cartoonish dance that kills dozens of people.
I honestly just don't get it.
Thank you so much for talking about The Nice Guys... Brightened up my whole day!
Love all of your work so far! Never stop never stopping!
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PREDATOR.
Such a terrible, disappointing, poorly written, unfunny movie.
Can someone explain to me why Nerdwriter1 thinks the action in Winter Soldier works, whereas the action in MoS doesn't? Thanks
I think he means that with CA there's more authenticity in the violence than with MoS, as in even though cap is superhuman those punches still hurt and he still has to struggle whereas Superman can get punched over a building and remain unscathed. I think part of that is because he's freaking Superman but regardless CA does a better job of getting a "That's gotta hurt" kind of reaction from the audience than MoS. It isn't perfect though (he references the fight between the avengers where it's pretty obvious there isn't much at stake in terms of physicality, main superheroes fighting other main superheroes it becomes obvious that death isn't a possibility and that takes away from the violence) I could be totally wrong but I think this is what he was trying to get at.
I agree that Snyder's direction feels out of place in the DCU. I used to really dig his style in 300 and Watchmen, but it doesn't seem appropriate for an official cinematic universe. Marvel has created a better sense of cohesion in their universe because they seem to have developed a standard style for their films and then forced their writers and directors to be creative within that box. It's been a bit of a controversial approach, what with Edgar Wright being turned off by the amount of control... but it's gotten results. The MCU feels cohesive and appropriate for an official representation of the characters and stories.
The DC cinematic universe feels so strange and uneven. When I watch BvS, i don't get the sense that I'm watching an official DC cinematic universe. I feel like I'm watching some strange experiment that a maverick director who happens to be a crazy DC fan did on a "What if?" lark and it just happened to get a huge budget. It's... interesting, but at the same time, it doesn't feel right. I feel like I should have the real cinematic universe movies to switch over to and say, "Oh, ok, this is the ACTUAL version. That crazy. nightmarish version was interesting, but I'm glad we have the sane version to come back to." But alas...
I would imagine it has less to do with the choreography/cgi ect and more to do with the way the winter soldier fights build tension and keep you in suspense while the MoS fight leave you feeling exhausted and depressed.
If you can explain to me how Superman flies "faster", then you will discover the answer to your own question.
AKA I agree.
NOT DEVASATATING
Wow. Your channel was exactely what i was searching for. Great job!!
The way you went full circle at the end was amazing
"He's not even really that hurt"
He was crippled
i saw mel gibson on the thumbnail... i clicked
Anyone else think he looks like Jordan Cwierz from Roosterteeth???
I'm never disappointed, or feel as if I wasted time watching your videos. I cannot imagine the effort you endure to bring us entertainment. I wish you the best of luck my friend. thank you for all of the awesome breakdowns.
Your videos are brilliant! Binge watching the whole channel now.