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Diagonal AWD TEST: Subaru Crosstrek (XV) | Part 3/3
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2017
- Did you know: The name Subaru is Japanese, meaning ‘unite’. It’s also a term for a cluster of six stars in the Taurus constellation, named 'Pleiades' by the ancient Greeks. According to Greek mythology, these stars were once Atlas’ daughters. The six-star cluster featured in the Subaru badge design is known in Japan as mutsuraboshi, meaning ‘six stars’.
Subaru was the first automobile brand to use a Japanese word as its name! The Crosstrek will receive major change for 2018! The new model will show a refreshed styling and a, more than welcome, new interior! We don't expect major modification to the drivetrain but since the Subaru Crosstrek is a good small crossovers/SUV, let's do a short review!
New for 2017: It offers a new trim level, the 2.0i Premium Special Edition but gone is the hybrid version! Remember that the Subaru Crosstrek offers standard all-wheel drive, a fuel-efficient four-cylinder engine, and a roomy interior and cargo area at an affordable price!
Here is a part of our short review of the 2017 Subaru Crosstrek! Feel free to share us what you want us to show you!
Model tested: 2017 Subaru Crosstrek
Subaru Crosstrek:
• 2017 Subaru Crosstrek
1st Part: Short Review
• 2017 Subaru Crosstrek ...
2nd Part: 0-60mph / 0-100kmh
• 2017 Subaru Crosstrek ...
3rd part: Diagonal Test
• Diagonal AWD TEST: Sub...
Specifications:
- Model Tested: 2017 Subaru Crosstrek Limited with Technology Package
- Engine: 4-Cylinder | 2.0L | Horizontally Opposed | Sequential Multiport Injection
- Power: 149hp @ 6,200 rpm / 145lb-ft @ 2,000 rpm
- Transmission: Lineartronic CVT with Manual Mode
- Drivetrain: Symmetrical Full-time AWD System
- Wheels: 17” Aluminium Alloy with 225/55R17 Tires.
- Brake: Power-assisted Ventilated front disc 11.6 in. / Solid rear disc 10.8 in.
- Fuel Economy ( L/100km): 9.1L ( City ) / 7.2L ( Highway)
- Fuel Recommended: Regular Unleaded
- Price: 26,785$ - 34,085$
Competition:
- Jeep Compass
- Mini Cooper Countryman
- Jeep Patriot
- Mazda CX-3
- Toyota CH-R
- Honda H-RV
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People keep forgetting the XV Crosstrek is still very much an Impreza hatchback with a lift kit. Still impressive if not as good as that of the larger Subarus.
Maybe the Impreza is a lowered XV ?
@@ekimandersom4478 nope. Impreza has been around since the early 90s while the XV/Crosstrek only arrived in 2012. Even then the XV makes no attempt to hide its Impreza roots from looks to powertrain.
And the Ford Escape is a lifted Focus, but it dominated this test. I'll say though it must feel good to be Subaru because the fanboys will defend them to the grave.
@@kevt9442 that’s not true lol an escape is a bigger body all around compared to a focus. You’re probably thinking about a fiesta common mistake.
@@Trades46 love the confidence but the crosstrek is in its own category when it comes to being a AWD hatchback/wagon. It doesn’t even drive similar lol.
I'm a Sudruhocic! I was an own that sold them for three years. My wife and I have only owned Subarus over the last 15 years. Can I help. I have a Crosstrek right now. That was crazy watching you prove how great the Subaru Fulll-time all-wheel drive system searches for reaction. No snow chains ever since I've owned a Subaru.
Subaru for life
Mike Provenzano My next car hopefully a Subaru in a few years. Not sure which one, depends what I can afford. Bullet proof cars for any purpose. Proper reliable, tough cars that will last a long time, unlike the style over substance competitors.
come on any pickup truck /4x4 SUV can do that. boring!
id really like to see you do this with the manual 6 speed version and see how it compares
So, if Subaru doesn't have the best AWD system, who does? In your opinion? I, personally have always found Subar's to be the best of them all.
BMW and the X1 have really made a big impression on us, the same thing for Mini All4 system that we are testing right now!!!
You guys should do a back to back comparison of the best ones, these tests with but also some off road driving. Would be awesome to see. I've recently found you channel and love the content so far. :)
How is Audi's Quattro? Can't afford one yet, maybe in a few years.
Too bad BMW isn't very reliable. First thing I look for in a vehicle is reliability first, looks are second.
This test was done incorrectly. traction control was engaged and X-mode was not engaged.
because of this video I bought a 2018 crosstreck.
Khalai Lai I’m sorry. But if the car isn’t working for you! And you have to work with the car! Then why the fuck did you waste your money?
@@welcome2myworld1.o89 why did you swear!!?? You literally said the f word
@@justanaturalcarguy4031 Hey Kid! I see that you like to watch car videos, no? You commented on chrisfix videos and other youtubers. That's cool! Having a car addiction is nothing to be a shame of. As long as you stay away from drugs and alcohol and girls! You should be able to make it in this world with no issues. Also, stay in school and I'm sorry for cussing.
@@welcome2myworld1.o89 yea you literally just said the f word
@@animal5602 well I literally just didn't. Considering it was like 3 years ago. Soo.... Yeah! It's whatever.
Very well said explanation on AWD systems. My wife wants a Mazda 3 AWD and I was a bit hesitant as I've always been a Subaru guy. But you're right: my wife just needs it for snowy/rainy conditions during commutes and road trips. I use my Subaru off road and on forest trails and such, so you're totally right in saying it depends on the system's purpose.
Red velvet interior. Wow, just wow~
Lol!!! You cant wait for our old school Ford Bronco project :P
Minglism This guy is a joke
thats not in the xv lol, the subaru has black interior the red interior is ford bronco 😂
when the front wheels are turned esp cuts down the power goes to rear wheels because it thinks car may be skidding. in that case just center the wheel, power starts to go rear, after car moves turn the wheel again. in the video car moves when driver centers the front wheels.
this is just a confusion between awd and esp. any subaru with symetrical awd can pass that obstacle with only one tire gripping.
Yea turning off traction control is a must when off-roading, that’s the only way to get unstuck
SH-AWD says, "Hurry up, we don't have all day!"
May not be perfect, but for what is basically a street car with ground clearance, that’s pretty damn impressive!
Looks like it did pretty well, made it through all tests. For the price a badass little car.
Crosstrek owner here. Turn off the VDC.
yeah i second this.. turn off VDC in snow
studiomountain yes. You are supposed to turn off VDC.
VDC is looking for wheel slip, and takes throttle away in a way to prevent a spinout. Subaru continuous AWD will help you hydroplane... Because its continuous and symmetrically balanced when your front wheels which are fighting water lift off... your rear wheels in the wake have traction and can push you into a oversteer spin just like a RWD car.
VDC detects and removes torque to save your ass and prevent a spin.
Off road at low to medium velocity, you need to push power without the computer taking away the power.
My Crosstrek 2.0d 6MT, is too different for a comparison, but CVT should never have this much struggle either. (Where I live, I have this situation quite often - that's exactly why I have chosen this car.) Engine power I feel absolutely sufficient for a smaller body - it takes me where and when I have to go. I agree: in a messy, uphill situation, first thing you do is turn VDC off. Then don't forget to turn it on when you get up the tarmac with your muddy wheels.
what is vdc
VDC = Vehicle Dynamic Control (also. ESC:Electronic Stability Control) these features monitor steering input and accelerometers to determine when vehicle direction doesn't match driver's intended direction.
Reduces engine power, manipulates transmission, and brakes in order to help correct.
it passed all checks. Kudos Subaru family
You may need to disengage the traction control button to allow the AWD do its thing more efficiently
Nope
Who is the leader of the AWD system?Who has best awd system, i thought it is Subaru? What about X-Mode (i call that thing THE MAGIC) WHat about Forester and Outback with X mode, im impressed with them.
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I don't know how the idiot that's barely understandable in the video thinks there's something better than Subaru's awd. The Crosstrek did better than the LR Defender on LRs own test track ffs.
Alec Krofton you are absolutely correct. Shut VDC off and watch it dig in with all 4. It's incredible to watch if it's done correctly.
i own a 2016 cvt and i could tell you its got the worst traction of all the subbies the torque in the cvt is 60:40 biased to the front and sometimes the system stutters trying to send power to rear wheels turning off vdc only makes it worst, the awd in the cvt crosstrek is non-symetrical, the 2018 is the real deal. i really believe this is a honest, truthful and accurate review, great job!
Just a note about most modern subaru's.
Almost no newer generation subaru comes with a LSD front or rear diff.....
Rear LSD diffs were the norm on forester and outbacks for a long time.
We just tested a 2008 WRX today on that test, besides ground clearance issue, what do you think will be the result?
Depends if the car is a manual or auto.
Any 5mt subaru ever made with a manual transmission has a LSD center diff. So no computers.
If the car is a auto it uses a hydro clutch pack to control awd.
But no wrx past 2008 will have a front or rear LSD.
So the car probably will be similar to the XV in some regards.
CarQuestion your driving
Ummm...it hasn't failed any test in Auto Mode! And like many mentioned, you *have* to disable TC! Also, in some of your cases you should have disabled VDC as clearly stated in the manual.
pull the ebrake a little with the button held in to transfer power to the planted wheel.
The AWD wasn't invented for this kind of tests, instead was invented only for acceleration , stability and curves. The offroad trucks and SUV are the 4x4 isn't it?
Wdym it clearly say it’s a “Go Anywhere” car
On the web site
I think it did pretty good for not having X Mode.
My wife's 19 has x mode. I've never used it. Perhaps it would help with your tests.
I'm kinda surprised that it struggled some
Scott Watkins it took a minute to decide where it wanted to send power is all
Scott Watkins this test is inaccurate
Struggled because it wasn't in the correct mode.
This is normal because the Subaru AWD system is more focused on paved roads handling. It will take the computer to realized the situation and then start to make some response to it.
Subaru programs the AWD for maximum traction. This isn't Mitsubishi whereas you can change the differential setting. During extreme off-road situations traction control needs to be DISABLED.
Thank you for the quality of the experiment, it really helps!
Given a little brake and gas at the same time will make the Subaru rear viscous limited slip work allot better too 😄
Very innovative test indeed!
Incidentally you can also evaluate chassis stiffness while it is on the diagonal ramp by seeing if the doors can be opened and closed smoothly.
Dominic Fong , i have a impreza, and this winter a small rock crack my winshield about 6 inches long. in april i removed my winter tires and i tell myself; as soon as i'm going to lift a corner, i can kiss goodbye my winshield. well guess what, 4 tires later it did not crack more at all. that a stiff chassis....
Apparently the Wileys Jeep would fail the diagonal test but the two wheel drive VW Kubelwaggen had an effective LSD and would get through.
I think the cx5 did better, right? ... although now I see CarQuestion admited to no not turning traction control off making the whole test worthless
Are you filming this video from inside an 1984-1988 Ford Bronco II?
I'm new to Subaru's (2014 XV Crosstrek Hybrid) and AWD period. Aside from snow driving, I haven't had a chance to really test the AWD capabilities in my XV. With my limited knowledge, is some of it's difficulties due to low torque? I know the engine is their smallest in the lineup so I just wonder if that has anything to do with it or just solely AWD?
Subaru XV manuel transmission has no ATS (Active Tork Split) thats why can't get enough performance such offroad conditions.But Cvt has got it..
Nice Bronco 2 interior!!!!
Interesting... The XV AWD system does not react as quick as the AWD system in the Forester...
'Seemed to do just fine. It's AWD. Not 4WD.
An aftermarket rear locker is available.
If the Subaru doesn't make it then nothing else would. There's a reason them and Mitsubishi are the rally champions.
mitsu us not the rally champ at it is always been subie is still the champ. mitsu has not won lately is not been in a competition.
Last time either of those won the constructors cup was in 1998. Subaru dropped out of the WRC in 2008 and Mitsu has been out for even longer.
do you know if a 2004 forester will pass this test?
Can we this this test done at highway speed please?
Very cool this test ! To complete this test , you should try in reverse mode.
The Manuel transmission performs better, almost like 4x4
You should do the same test on the trail.
this had to be without X mode (now available) To be fair you should test latest XV.
we will! :) soon :)
You should do the new forester 2.5i 6 speed manual I'm curious about that one
will ask Subaru.
CarQuestion that would be super awesome thanks
CarQuestion Don't forget to show Subaru these videos of yours ;) I know I have!
I think he has the vdc off, and I think that's the only way it spins like that. If it was on it wouldn't spin the wheels and would go up the offset without any spinning
VDC was on.
@CarQuestion I own a '16 hybrid trek and before that a '12 impreza. I've never had either spin the wheels that much, even on glass ice without turning vdc off. I'm talking the first and some of the other attempts, not all of them, the ones where you are up in a second or two, those look like vdc on. But that first one, no way there is that much wheelspin with vdc. Trac would have locked those brakes and the other wheels would have received all the power.
I own a Mitsubishi RVR AWC and I've seen the diagonal test on it, however the Subaru in this video performs much much better than the RVR or any other Japanese Auto brand. I just wish Subaru paid a little more attention to their engines quality in terms of oil consumption and then without a doubt it would be the best choice in all Japanese Auto brands, where Toyota is sitting right now. edit: Toyota and Fuji Heavy Industries do work together.
It's so fun to watch it struggle at 4:00
Idk about you, but for an "every day, affordable brand', Subaru has the best AWD. I don't care who says what, I have watched and experienced it myself, I also own and drive an outback, and let me tell you, it is a little tank! I will say before someone else does, Mitsubishi also has a very good system, very comparable, but, only certain models.
I would to know if the tests are made with Manuell or Automatic gearbox when you presents the cars you are testing????
Right in the desc: - Transmission: Lineartronic CVT with Manual Mode
No surprise here. Same performance with hybrid version?.. 2016 xv hybrid or 2016 rav4 hybrid?
nguyen phung dang khoa I'm not surprised either considering he didn't have the car correctly set up for this test
Make sure its on regular drive too
If I close my eyes and listen, I hear GSP
Have you tried with the manual transmission version of the Crosstrek?
C&Q - have you done the same tests with a 2019 Crosstrek Sport ?? Diagonal & Road tests?
Now that I own one (a 2019 Sport Edition) I wouldn’t buy nor recommend one. Counting the years and months left on my 4 year lease. Worst purchase ever!!!
MrThePrivateer nothing wrong with the CVt or power. I knew that I had 130 HP less than my previous vehicle.
It’s the rest of the car that sucks big time, enough to trade it for a big North America SUV. Two months in and will write to the dealer and Subaru about their piece of crap. Maybe if you come from a smaller car or old one you can appreciate the Crosstrek, but when you had bigger and more comfortable then look and spend somewhere else.
Crosstrek owner here. The XV is a noisy POS; wait until you have the ABS sensor failure and suddenly have no ABS, no hill start lock, drastically changed gear ranges, and thats after it kills cruise control sometimes even while driving on cruise control.
Pls try to do this to a land cruiser 200
Not a fair comparison. Your other videos the dumpster is not in the way and they can approach from a different angle.
we do not own the place, we do what we can with what we got :(
Subaru has a decent AWD system for the money
Please do Mazda CX-5 2017. Thank you
I have a 2018 Crosstrek; they added the X-mode, which is a NICE addition. the 2018 handles much better than my 2015 Crosstrek which I previously had. I really liked the 2015; till I drove the 2018... Nice improvements!
have to turn off vdc.. it's better
Woah, can you give me the link when the Volvo XC90 going off road like in 1:39
comming soon :P It's the T8 for this one.
CarQuestion Alrighty!
Been looking at the Crosstrek trying to decide if I like it. Didn't like the way it handled here. Bet my 2010 5 speed manual transmission Kia Soul could do that. Lol.
+Cash Only sorry your Kia Soul won't do it ;) trust me
CarQuestion Yeah just kidding. I just thought these little SUV's would have better traction than that.
What are the best awd on the market according to you?
why the hell is x mode off....also vdc is stopping wheels from spinning to push the car. this is an incorrect representation of the capabilities of this vehicle.
Naib Chowdhury loll there is no xmode in this crosstrek
Very interesting, i can't believe it.
Most people won't be driving on an angle like this. Not sure what the point is really when most will be used on road only.
We leave the road to the usual driver
We push to the limit
Don’t ask why
We just do it
I have to disagree with the idea that a car is still "okay" to be AWD if it can't pass these AWD tests. If I buy an AWD car I expect it to behave like a car that can have All its Wheels Driving. Just because it sends some power to a wheel doesn't mean that its driving the car. I think they should have a moniker in here 4x4, AWD and MWD for "mixed-wheel drive" where some wheels drive the car and some wheels just stabilize the car. It would be more accurate, at least.
Honesty, l didn't see the Subaru do any better than the Nissan Rogue or the Honda CRV...
Why isn't that left rear spinning?
I bought Benz good work CQ this helps consumers buy vehicsls that have good awd systems that react fast this is disappointing compared to the forester
It funny that you don't seem to stop this Subbie in the worst over the hump situation and you let it roll a little with out full stop, also asphalt hump is taken at less severe angle than other AWD systems you have tested on this show..... little favorite here :)
Would results change in the Winter?
every day in my 07 sti sedan going up the ramp into the gym parking lot
The Subaru are very underpowered might not have brought power to truly send power to all wheels
no X-mode in your test car?
Forester for the X-mode here: ruclips.net/user/edit?o=U&video_id=cW3zwUBMGF8
MetaView7 X-mode IS AVAILABLE ON THE CROSSTREK
X-mode will be in 2018 US Crosstreks. New feature for the Crosstrek when the revised model comes out this summer. X-mode has been in the Forester for a few years.
No X-mode in the 2017 model!
how is the Bronco II that you are sitting in do? I have lockers in mine so I know it is good. but I would love to see a stock one. if yours is stock
engine is stock, manual hubs are now in front since the auto one always broke.... and there is a 6'' lift on this one... sorry for the stock review :P
CarQuestion still cool see nice stock inside. 89-90? :)
i could do a review, but the body it not 100% :(
rust in québec is hard on those old school trucks
CarQuestion hey. Maine isn't any better. but have to love the bronco ii. easy to work on!!
i love that Ford Bronco II at the beginning
You have a good eye :P
I noticed that II
Open diffs are sad.
Is he sitting in a bronco 2 ?
ruclips.net/video/wRKRXtuHC1s/видео.html
You look like the guy who does test drives on Maryland Public Television.
what's is name? :)
CarQuestion Show: Motorweek, Name: James R. Healey. And is a writer for USA Today Auto.
CarQuestion Dennis Rodman
I didn;t notice any thing better than any crossover , all acts similarly like what subaru does .
How do you know the guy had the Crosstrek in manual mode?
We tested it, and got the same result.
Very disappointing. If the opened VDC is the reason, why didn't it send torque to other wheels that have more grip instead of solely taking away torque from spinning wheels? That's because Subaru's VDC is stupid on its own.
i guess 4:51 tire pressure is reduced.is it related to the test?
nope!
oem pressure!
Car Question thank you! your reviews are great!
thanks! glad you like! :)
Acura MDX SH-AWD has the best all-wheel drive system
Why are you dropping the momentum? That’s not how to drive offroad
it's not an off road test, it's and AWD test. Yess we can jump the hill, but that's not the plan
Why wasnt the left rear tire spinning?
Transfers to the least resistance wheel. (Open differential) subaru has other modes through out there models for example (x-mode) which can help with transfers of power to certain wheels in certain conditions.
Have you guys tested the Acura SH-AWD?
The new MDX was tested not long ago!
Note that the SH-AWD is best for cornering :)
Did you activate the x-mode or not?
No X-mode on that one! It's was the other version that got it!
Subaru AWD is the best
Im impressed👍
My next baby!!!
Great car
wheel base is a major factor in these tests for this hill
diesel??
Wow. For this price subaru greater than some more expensive suv😁
My dad was driving, he saw that everybody was almost stop, he didn't knew why and he continued driving, later he saw that the wheels of other cars where without traction, his wheels no, he had a Subaru.
Show a Toyota 4Runner. You can just floor it and up it will go.
C'est une chaîne québécoise ça??
Ben quin
Damn my 2021 with toyo open country would walk up those slopes without hesitating even without x mode. I think the issue here is shitty stock tires, although even on stock geolandars the 2021 is WAY more capable than this, wow.
Just remember that this is a 2017 Subaru Crosstrek XV, and not one of the newer ones