one thing I've noticed with my ipad (which I've had for 3 years) is that I've found myself intensely missing shortcut keys. Also 12.9 inches is not roomy enough for me in apps like Clip Studio where the UI takes up a lot of the screen. I don't really take my ipad out with me much either. I think my next upgrade will be a pen display instead.
You must use a lot of palettes in your Clip Studio Paint workspace. Have you considered the various keyboard attachments for the iPad Pro? Like the Logitech combo touch or a Bluetooth keyboard
I have both, and what finally won my over to using the iPad as my primary inking device is the ability to pinch to zoom, move, and rotate. It just feels so natural. Great video with clear explanations
I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to open an image (jpeg, png) using a movie player on iOS that will give you picture-in-picture, so you can have a moveable, resizable reference image that always floats over your work, and not all that wasted vertical space as you demonstrated with slide-over. Or maybe we'll just make an app that does this.
i would say a ipad is better,because you can use it without a computer and if you want to use like photoshop you can share the computer screen on the ipad and have the same functions as a pendisplay
started my journey with a screenles pen tablet, than bought an ipad i missed the desktop functionality and bought a cintiq 16, now im mostly drawing with my 3rd gen ipad air :) im thinking to buy a new pro 12,9. I'm not a graphic designer nor a concept artist. decided that procreate fulfills my needs more than enough. And I'm also bored to be stuck at the desk in my room with the cintiq and all those cables omg :)
This comment. I own a Kamvas Pro 13 which is quite good, but I'm tired of having to handle all the cables and have to put the display in place every time I need to draw/paint (I don't have a lot of space so it cannot be in place all the time). I think I'll get an Ipad Air 5 for this reason.
Hi thanks for this video. It's the only comparison video I found where you put two devices together. I'm struggling between iPad Pro 12.9 and Cintiq 16. I'm a little bit to the iPad side but my concern is most of the concept art especially environment art are drawn on a 16:9 canvas right? would the drawing area be much smaller on iPad than on the Cintiq 16 since the iPad is in 4:3 aspect ratio? But then I figured out that if I use procreate on iPad which has the minimum clutter of UI it seems that the canvas is not that much smaller than if I use csp or ps on Cintiq because those softwares have a lot of ui on the sides?
*Choose based on the apps you want to use.* The thing with Cintiq and at 16-inches is you can still have palettes open by the side and have a good amount of space left for drawing.
In my opinion I prefer pen displays. What many have not noticed is when for e ample you are using procreate, turn off the smoothing and streamline options, you will notice the Apple pencil is the worst pen accuracy with software. I did the same experiment on my pc and Samsung tab, turned off the smoothing settings on all apps for Samsung , Ibis paint and infinite painter , wacom pens was more accurate without any smoothing settings compared to Apple. Procreate is what makes Apple pencil seem functional, so I will pick a screen display anytime for extra buttons and better accuracy than apple
as someone who draws exclusively in clip studio on ipad I could not disagree more! The apple pencil is great, if you're finding it that noticable it sounds like there is an issue with your device.
the new xp-pen tablet 16TP 4K have touch screen rotate and zoom in zoom out! only for portability you will go for ipad! procreate vs photoshop? no question of all..photoshop all the way!
does the tc on xp pen annoying or on point like touch screen on ipad? because I heard some people say that tc on display tablet doesn't have a good palm rejection like ipad does
Teoh, do the ipad pro 4:3 aspect ratio and software ecosystem are a big deal to decide between ipad and the tab s7 for digital art? Because i can't buy the pro, but i'm afraid to buy and don't like the tab s7.
@@teohontech7141 thanks for the help! I like your videos, and you bring fantastic content, not only as a reviewer but also as an artist. After you said i will probably buy the tab s7 (not plus) for digital art.
@@gustavolopes4341 for drawing i think you should get an iPad, but for other stuff like Work, file management, watching, display, multitasking, and whatever, i recommended you the Tab S7. I have an iPad and trust me, multitasking and working on an iPad is bad. Especially if you use app like Google form, File management, etc on an iPad its *p a i n* . Sometimes those kind of app doesnt function properly because the Lack of optimization from Apple, But for drawing, editing, gaming, software, etc, i would recommended you to buy an iPad more.
Thanks@@malvinolimit ! What iPad do you have? I was thinking to get the s7, because i'll use not only as a device to do digital art, but also as Homeoffice device (midia consumption, management as well). And the 120 Hz I will only get in iPad if i choose the Pro (but it is so expensive). If wasn't the price and file management, I would pick the iPad pro i guess.
@@malvinolimit but i have no doubt that the ipad ecosystem for drawing is fantastic. And i don't know how well is to draw in a tab s7, because i didn't find as much content as i did found about ipad (many videos about procreate and other apps).
Sidecar can work. But Sidecar is limited to MacOS users. There's also no shortcut to control cursor on both displays. On iPad you have to use Apple Pencil and with the other display you have to use mouse.
@@teohontech7141 you are correct that it would only work for a Mac user. As far as the mouse wouldn’t choosing mirror screen solve that issue? I’m torn between an iPad because I could take just it with me vs the larger working area of a pen display.
@@jonzalkin If you choose mirror screen, it defeats the purpose of having two screens. As for getting the iPad vs Pen Display, well, it really comes down to the apps you want to use. If you don't have any specific apps you need to use, you can actually just choose either. Both can get the job done, just in different manner. And iPad has portability which is the main selling point after you decide what apps you need.
@@teohontech7141 you can use Duet, I use my iPad with my Windows PC. I can use it as a second screen. There's also the Sketchbook Pro which turns your iPad into a drawing tablet.
I don’t really think the iPad is that portable just because of the fact that it is in the end a fragile piece of glass and any screen protectors will decrease contrast or tamper with the display. And yes, the more you use the iPad the more scratches you’ll get that tamper with the display. So it’s really whether you want to have a tablet for all sorts of things or a tablet specifically for art
in iPad you have choice to use the screen protector or not, in drawing tablet you have no choice cuz the matte screen is the only option and it is bad just as the paper like screen protector, and honestly due to that drawing tablet screen is terrible out of the box already.
Very nice video! But I'm still wondering what would be the best for me. I am between the IPad Air 5 and the Huion Kamva Pro 13. I am a new product design student without experience with drawing tablets. The thing is that I will be traveling almost 2 hours by train every day for the next 3 years and I thought that the IPad air would be best because of the portability. Plus I have a student discount for Apple for which I get 100 euros discount on the IPad + 100 euros gift card which I can use to buy the Pen. With the discounts the Ipad Air 5 is the max of my budget, and can't even afford the IPad pro 2020 refurbished, only the 2018 one, would it be still better than the Air 5 ? But on the other side the Huion is still more affordable and seems to have more functionality. My only concern left is about productivity and quality. Would the Huion be that better than the Ipad Air that I could forget and adapt about the portability?
Choose based on the software you want to use. If there's no preference, iPad Air is good, but get at least 256GB storage if possible. Anything less is quite limiting
@@sarahr.roza2540 Yes, get the 256GB. Without storage, it does not matter how good or recent the tablet is. I am still using 2018 ipad pro 12.9 and it is still very fast
I do not know which to choose. I'm going between drawing tablet or ipad for next year. I'm kinda interested in the drawing tablet more. You can use it without a computer. But I'm not too sure. Which one is best
iPad is portable. Pen displays and pen tablets need to connect to the computer and allow you to use your computer software. If you have no preference you can just go with iPad which is more convenient to draw on.
@@helloluckies1814 In the past, drawing tablets used to be those pen tablets that you have to connect to a computer, e.g. Wacom tablets. With the introduction of iPads and the million of Android tablets, the tablets people refer to nowadays is no longer drawing tablets. So nowadays I referred to them as pen tablets and pen displays (monitors). Some pen displays are so thin that they are mistaken as tablets, but they still need to connect to a computer.
Hi Teoh, I have watched a few of your videos so far and they are all great. I Have two questions if that's ok: I can't decide between the new Huion Kamvas 16" 2021(not the 4k) to the updated 20" 2019 v3 to the 20" pro 2019 To the new XP-Pen 16" artist (the dark grey colour). I have an ipad pro 12.9 2017 but I feel its too small for me as a designer and illustrator. The 22" plus version of the Huion seem the best option but I don't have enough space for it with my 27" 2019 imac on the desktop. Which one of the 4 options would you go for (Or any other you might recommend)? I also wonder if you know if Huion plans to release a new 20" version of the kamvas 2021? Thanks in advance for your help. ;)
I have ipad 9 and drawing tablet xp pen star 03 + 22inch monitor + laptop, and I choose Ipad for daily drawing.. coz I love drawing on different coffeeshop or park, and Im addicted to procreate :)
It's 2023. One important thing regarding workflow for anyone using Windows considering drawing tablet: Windows changes their software year after year after year. So if you want stability you want Apple. If you want to relearn your OS every 2-3 years go with Windows 😂
Why are you comparing a standalone with a pen display? It seems like everyone is so confused about comparing tablets, because pen displays are called tablets and standalone art tablets are also called tablets.
He’s not confused, a lot of people do want to see which would be better for digital art! I have an iPad but am really debating getting a Wacom cintiq, as I find I prefer using Adobe over procreate and sidecar is just too glitchy!
one thing I've noticed with my ipad (which I've had for 3 years) is that I've found myself intensely missing shortcut keys. Also 12.9 inches is not roomy enough for me in apps like Clip Studio where the UI takes up a lot of the screen. I don't really take my ipad out with me much either. I think my next upgrade will be a pen display instead.
You must use a lot of palettes in your Clip Studio Paint workspace. Have you considered the various keyboard attachments for the iPad Pro? Like the Logitech combo touch or a Bluetooth keyboard
while you focusing on drawing some parts, just press tab and every UI will be gone
I'm a beginner please guide me
I have 10.8 inches huawei and yes, same issue but this time I'll go with 22 inches for my desk since I need vesa mount
I have both, and what finally won my over to using the iPad as my primary inking device is the ability to pinch to zoom, move, and rotate. It just feels so natural.
Great video with clear explanations
you have the new xp-pen 16tp that do that ;)
very clean format and to the point, great video as always sir
I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to open an image (jpeg, png) using a movie player on iOS that will give you picture-in-picture, so you can have a moveable, resizable reference image that always floats over your work, and not all that wasted vertical space as you demonstrated with slide-over.
Or maybe we'll just make an app that does this.
Within Procreate, you can actually place a reference photo.
@@teohontech7141 Had no idea it was there. Just watched their video and it looks amazing.
Thanks for the tip!
I'm a beginner please guide me
Addicted to procreate and its one time payment. Will get an ipadpro soon upgrading from my ipad mini 5. Thank you for this great review sir.
What size Huion display is that? Sorry if this was mentioned in the video, but I must have missed it.
That’s 15.6 inch
Which is better for sculpting ?
Not sure but my general advice is to choose based on the software you want to use. So the question is are there good sculpting apps on iPad
Thank you! This is the most helpful video in helping me decide!
what did u decided
iPad with Apple Pencil, I am loving using it. I also got a screen protector that feels like drawing on paper
i would say a ipad is better,because you can use it without a computer and if you want to use like photoshop you can share the computer screen on the ipad and have the same functions as a pendisplay
Can u share screen with an Ipad?
@@hero9402 yes you can
Yep! I don't have a pc lol. But I want a pc first
started my journey with a screenles pen tablet, than bought an ipad i missed the desktop functionality and bought a cintiq 16, now im mostly drawing with my 3rd gen ipad air :) im thinking to buy a new pro 12,9. I'm not a graphic designer nor a concept artist. decided that procreate fulfills my needs more than enough. And I'm also bored to be stuck at the desk in my room with the cintiq and all those cables omg :)
This comment. I own a Kamvas Pro 13 which is quite good, but I'm tired of having to handle all the cables and have to put the display in place every time I need to draw/paint (I don't have a lot of space so it cannot be in place all the time). I think I'll get an Ipad Air 5 for this reason.
5:29 Which pen is more sensitive?
Pen displays
Can you please tell me which model is the ipad you are using?
ipad pro 2018
Did you navigate the canvas in huion tablet through pen or through key board ? Seemed like te pen navigates
With the pen and keyboard (Holding down spacebar)
Hi thanks for this video. It's the only comparison video I found where you put two devices together. I'm struggling between iPad Pro 12.9 and Cintiq 16. I'm a little bit to the iPad side but my concern is most of the concept art especially environment art are drawn on a 16:9 canvas right? would the drawing area be much smaller on iPad than on the Cintiq 16 since the iPad is in 4:3 aspect ratio? But then I figured out that if I use procreate on iPad which has the minimum clutter of UI it seems that the canvas is not that much smaller than if I use csp or ps on Cintiq because those softwares have a lot of ui on the sides?
*Choose based on the apps you want to use.* The thing with Cintiq and at 16-inches is you can still have palettes open by the side and have a good amount of space left for drawing.
In my opinion I prefer pen displays. What many have not noticed is when for e ample you are using procreate, turn off the smoothing and streamline options, you will notice the Apple pencil is the worst pen accuracy with software. I did the same experiment on my pc and Samsung tab, turned off the smoothing settings on all apps for Samsung , Ibis paint and infinite painter , wacom pens was more accurate without any smoothing settings compared to Apple. Procreate is what makes Apple pencil seem functional, so I will pick a screen display anytime for extra buttons and better accuracy than apple
What do you mean by accurate? Pressure, tilt or may be raw data? Have you got a link to any of such tests?
@@g43654 yes there is, go look for it yourself
as someone who draws exclusively in clip studio on ipad I could not disagree more! The apple pencil is great, if you're finding it that noticable it sounds like there is an issue with your device.
I think there’s something wrong with ur iPad or apple pencil. I draw without smoothing or streamline and find no such problems.
Let me guess, the answer depends on your portability need
still accurate
the new xp-pen tablet 16TP 4K have touch screen rotate and zoom in zoom out! only for portability you will go for ipad! procreate vs photoshop? no question of all..photoshop all the way!
does the tc on xp pen annoying or on point like touch screen on ipad? because I heard some people say that tc on display tablet doesn't have a good palm rejection like ipad does
is it real xp pen 16 has touch screen? omg i just bought the 13inch model
does it work with procreate?
Can I play pubg on xp pen 😑😑😅
Idk but I don’t have it on my Mac so it could just be Ipad
On a 16” tablet, which resolution is bad with Mac - was it HD res? You mention this in a video I can’t find.. thanks!
1440P on 16 inch is not a good combo
Teoh, do the ipad pro 4:3 aspect ratio and software ecosystem are a big deal to decide between ipad and the tab s7 for digital art? Because i can't buy the pro, but i'm afraid to buy and don't like the tab s7.
16:9 or 16:10 aspect ratio will just take some time to get used to. Not a big issue
@@teohontech7141 thanks for the help! I like your videos, and you bring fantastic content, not only as a reviewer but also as an artist. After you said i will probably buy the tab s7 (not plus) for digital art.
@@gustavolopes4341 for drawing i think you should get an iPad, but for other stuff like Work, file management, watching, display, multitasking, and whatever, i recommended you the Tab S7. I have an iPad and trust me, multitasking and working on an iPad is bad. Especially if you use app like Google form, File management, etc on an iPad its *p a i n* . Sometimes those kind of app doesnt function properly because the Lack of optimization from Apple, But for drawing, editing, gaming, software, etc, i would recommended you to buy an iPad more.
Thanks@@malvinolimit ! What iPad do you have? I was thinking to get the s7, because i'll use not only as a device to do digital art, but also as Homeoffice device (midia consumption, management as well). And the 120 Hz I will only get in iPad if i choose the Pro (but it is so expensive). If wasn't the price and file management, I would pick the iPad pro i guess.
@@malvinolimit but i have no doubt that the ipad ecosystem for drawing is fantastic. And i don't know how well is to draw in a tab s7, because i didn't find as much content as i did found about ipad (many videos about procreate and other apps).
Wouldn’t sidecar make the iPad work the same as the other?
Sidecar can work. But Sidecar is limited to MacOS users.
There's also no shortcut to control cursor on both displays. On iPad you have to use Apple Pencil and with the other display you have to use mouse.
@@teohontech7141 you are correct that it would only work for a Mac user. As far as the mouse wouldn’t choosing mirror screen solve that issue? I’m torn between an iPad because I could take just it with me vs the larger working area of a pen display.
@@jonzalkin If you choose mirror screen, it defeats the purpose of having two screens.
As for getting the iPad vs Pen Display, well, it really comes down to the apps you want to use. If you don't have any specific apps you need to use, you can actually just choose either. Both can get the job done, just in different manner. And iPad has portability which is the main selling point after you decide what apps you need.
@@teohontech7141 you can use the mouse on the ipad as well
@@teohontech7141 you can use Duet, I use my iPad with my Windows PC. I can use it as a second screen. There's also the Sketchbook Pro which turns your iPad into a drawing tablet.
I don’t really think the iPad is that portable just because of the fact that it is in the end a fragile piece of glass and any screen protectors will decrease contrast or tamper with the display. And yes, the more you use the iPad the more scratches you’ll get that tamper with the display. So it’s really whether you want to have a tablet for all sorts of things or a tablet specifically for art
in iPad you have choice to use the screen protector or not, in drawing tablet you have no choice cuz the matte screen is the only option and it is bad just as the paper like screen protector, and honestly due to that drawing tablet screen is terrible out of the box already.
Does blooming affects notetaking on dark background on2021
No. The parallel lines on the notepad will light all the dimming zones, hence no blooming when everything is lit
Very nice video! But I'm still wondering what would be the best for me. I am between the IPad Air 5 and the Huion Kamva Pro 13.
I am a new product design student without experience with drawing tablets. The thing is that I will be traveling almost 2 hours by train every day for the next 3 years and I thought that the IPad air would be best because of the portability. Plus I have a student discount for Apple for which I get 100 euros discount on the IPad + 100 euros gift card which I can use to buy the Pen. With the discounts the Ipad Air 5 is the max of my budget, and can't even afford the IPad pro 2020 refurbished, only the 2018 one, would it be still better than the Air 5 ?
But on the other side the Huion is still more affordable and seems to have more functionality. My only concern left is about productivity and quality. Would the Huion be that better than the Ipad Air that I could forget and adapt about the portability?
Choose based on the software you want to use. If there's no preference, iPad Air is good, but get at least 256GB storage if possible. Anything less is quite limiting
@@teohontech7141 would you recommend the IPad Pro 11 2018 256GB rather than the IPad Air 5 64GB ?
@@sarahr.roza2540 Yes, get the 256GB. Without storage, it does not matter how good or recent the tablet is. I am still using 2018 ipad pro 12.9 and it is still very fast
@@teohyc I forgot to mention that I have a MacBook already with more storage space and IClould? Will then the Air 5 be enough?
@@sarahr.roza2540 More storage is more useful than most of the new features in the Air 5
I do not know which to choose. I'm going between drawing tablet or ipad for next year. I'm kinda interested in the drawing tablet more. You can use it without a computer. But I'm not too sure. Which one is best
iPad is portable. Pen displays and pen tablets need to connect to the computer and allow you to use your computer software. If you have no preference you can just go with iPad which is more convenient to draw on.
Internet has lied to me. It says that drawing tablets can be used or connect without a computer
@@helloluckies1814 In the past, drawing tablets used to be those pen tablets that you have to connect to a computer, e.g. Wacom tablets. With the introduction of iPads and the million of Android tablets, the tablets people refer to nowadays is no longer drawing tablets. So nowadays I referred to them as pen tablets and pen displays (monitors). Some pen displays are so thin that they are mistaken as tablets, but they still need to connect to a computer.
Ipad 8 vs Huion Kamvas 13?
Hi Teoh, I have watched a few of your videos so far and they are all great. I Have two questions if that's ok: I can't decide between the new Huion Kamvas 16" 2021(not the 4k) to the updated 20" 2019 v3 to the 20" pro 2019 To the new XP-Pen 16" artist (the dark grey colour). I have an ipad pro 12.9 2017 but I feel its too small for me as a designer and illustrator. The 22" plus version of the Huion seem the best option but I don't have enough space for it with my 27" 2019 imac on the desktop. Which one of the 4 options would you go for (Or any other you might recommend)? I also wonder if you know if Huion plans to release a new 20" version of the kamvas 2021? Thanks in advance for your help. ;)
The 16 inch Huion should be good if you want to use it alongside your iMac. It’s not too big and not too small.
Same with me I need 20 inch tablet
is it possible to connect ipad and work in procreate ???
No
@@teohontech7141 😣
great review!
Very helpful
Can you make orocreate file into vector? To tranfer from AI
No. But you can export Procreate to other file formats, e.g. PSD, JPEG, for import into Illustrator.
I'm a beginner please guide me
I have ipad 9 and drawing tablet xp pen star 03 + 22inch monitor + laptop, and I choose Ipad for daily drawing..
coz I love drawing on different coffeeshop or park, and Im addicted to procreate :)
It's 2023. One important thing regarding workflow for anyone using Windows considering drawing tablet: Windows changes their software year after year after year. So if you want stability you want Apple. If you want to relearn your OS every 2-3 years go with Windows 😂
Core OS features will still be the same though. Additional features are just bonuses
I'm sure ipad is better but Im that one hater who just hates apple products 😂
Why are you comparing a standalone with a pen display? It seems like everyone is so confused about comparing tablets, because pen displays are called tablets and standalone art tablets are also called tablets.
He’s not confused, a lot of people do want to see which would be better for digital art! I have an iPad but am really debating getting a Wacom cintiq, as I find I prefer using Adobe over procreate and sidecar is just too glitchy!