Ryan don't joke with us about an hour and a half on flooring. We all know if Drachinifel did an hour and a half long dissertation on the development of ship decking and flooring technology from “pre Dreadnought to post war era”. We would watch it gladly.
I served on the Newport News CA148 during her last Vietnam cruise in 1972. She was commissioned in 1948 and still had the teak decks.The 8" guns on the News were fully automatic and fired two piece ammunition. You had the projectile which weighed something like 250 pounds. The propellant was contained in a brass casing that was about 4 feet long. Imagine a piece of .38 special brass magnified about 100 times. After the gun was fired, the propellant case was ejected out of a port under the gun tube. These fired cases were hot and had a sharp edge at the mouth. To save the teak decks from fire or major damage, 3/4" plywood was screwed or nailed to the deck around the main turrets. I recall that the 5" propellant cases came out of the rear of the mounts and were a pretty light alloy - maybe aluminum - and didn't seem to have the potential to damage the wooden deck. I remember reading in one of Samuel Morrison's books that the pre WW2 treaty cruisers and standard battleships were pretty much stripped down to bare metal and received only one coat of paint after mid 42 because of fire hazards. The old red lead paint used below the waterline and in the bilges wasn't the most environmentally friendly stuff. I worked in the engine room and we figured that if the lead paint didn't get us, the asbestos pipe insulation would, while we went deaf from the ambient sound level. We didn't know any better in those days..
Why is it that one of the most effective insulators just happens to be cheap as well. Sounds great. We can form it to fill any space, stick to walls and around pipes. We can even make awesome fire protection equipment and wonderful gloves to handle hot stuff. Even protect tools. And we can just mine it out of the ground. But oh, by the way, one thing, it will give you lung cancer in the long run just for working with it. Gut wrenching news. That's what our soldiers get, working and repairing the machine in constant high level noise, toxic paint and equipment as you mentioned. If they survive the war. Hopefully they'll survive the toxic stuff years later. Just another thing to appreciate about those who serve, they not only put their lives on the line to save the country and citizens, but they give up some of their freedoms and protections, on top of their health, to defend the USA and Americans. I'm glad your still around, hopefully the health is doing well. Thank you being there to keep that ship running. Totally different scenario, my uncle worked most of his life with large amounts of weird solvents and brand new untested medication candidates. He's just waiting for the cancer arrived, and when it did he beat it, but the threats still there. Sucks to be worried like that your whole life. At least he could have quit the lab job if he wanted too. I wonder how much safer it is now in the Navy and what risks we do and don't know about still exist even outside of the dangers of combat.
I was a U.S. submarine sailor 1962 - 1970. I was on two Balao class (WW II) boats older than me, and then two nukes a few years old. Most of our deck covering in living spaces was sheet linoleum with fabric backing. We called it "battleship linoleum." but didn't know it was in limited use on battleships. Oh, well, that was then and this is now. It would take me about half an hour to get from my bunk to my battle station.
Dude, where the heck was your battlestation? I served aboard an aircraft carrier (which is considerably bigger than a submarine) and could go from bunk, which was forward part of the ship, all the way to the aft end in 5mins.
@@jeffburnham6611 With severe arthritis and in a wheelchair it would NOW take ma a while to get to my battle station. Navy ships are not A.D.A compliant.
@@jeffburnham6611 Subs, esp. WWII boats, were very crampted with narrow passages often multi-use and stuffed with men and supplies. They were nothing like the museum ships are today, (unless you get tangled up with a whole tour group). I can believe it took a while to get around. @ Robert - Wasn't that flooring supposed to be sound deadening?
I was on an Oiler in late 80's. Weather decks were non skid, an epoxy like substance with lots of grit. The heads were "bathroom tile". Berthing, passage ways, mess decks, etc ... were 9" and/or 12" tile. Electric/electronic spaces were vinyl sheet, all seems were "welded" together. The vinyl sheet material was electrical insulating.
I imagine it would really suck if you poured a couple rooms worth of leveling compound and then discovered the ship was ballasted wrong giving your new floor a 5deg list to port.
I'm guessing- since it's common with leveling on land-based jobs, that you would have a spirit level to check things with. But yea, that would not be fun.
Or if you missed a hole somewhere and ended up unwittingly pouring a bunch of junk into the overhead one deck down. (I know someone who did this in the front hall of a house, where it only made a mess in the basement. I can only assume that on a ship it would be much, much more annoying to clean up.)
When I was on the Coral Sea in '79 we went out on what they called the "rehab cruise" right after she came out of a long refit. It was also the period where our aircrew did carrier quals before our WESTPAC - I/O cruise later in the year. That's the time where people were detailed to re-lay tile and chip and paint in what were to become their workspaces. That's when the fancy inlay work was done a lot of the time since there wasn't a lot of regular duty or drills going on since we were only out for about six weeks. We also got to endure a trip from Alameda all the way to San Diego at flank speed as part of the trials for the work done during the refit. Very noisy, the rumor was that there was a bent shaft but it might have just been the nature of the beast when running full out for almost a thousand miles. I was in a berthing space right under the arresting gear for that cruise. It's amazing what you can learn to sleep through.
Yeah. My bunk was pretty much right under the bullseye on the helo deck. Bear in mid this was on a Replenishment Oiler with helo crews trying to maintain their qual's for VertRep. The standard practice load that they used was a steel rack full of dummy 5" shells. They quite obviously would frequently release the hook before the load was actually on deck, dropping it the last few inches. We were diligent in cleaning the overheads. Any dirt/dust/debris in the overhead would shortly be on the deck and in the top racks if we were not.
@@kevincrosby1760 Hah! That reminds me of something. When we were on the way back stateside at the end of our WESTPAC, we were cross-decking all the ammo out of the ship before we came in. They were VERTREPing it over to the Kiluea using CH-46s. The bomb bodies for Mk-82 500 pound bombs are stored in a big wire cage crate that holds six of them. One was hooked to a helo and being lifted away, as it got up to about 100 feet or so, one of the bombs fell out of the crate and landed on the flight deck. BAWANG! (The Coral Sea had an armored flight deck). They just calmly rolled the bomb over to the deck edge and continued on with the job.
I was the master of waxing the floor in our berthing compartment by hand with a sponge lol. You would tape off one side of the passageway for waxing, leaving the other side open for foot traffic. Once the wax was dry you did the other side. Trying to get a perfect blending so you didn't see the seem down the middle of the passageway was always fun.
I was on a Destroyer Tender. The Puget Sound. AD38. I was in charge of the passageway in front of Sick Bay so it was heavily traveled. I kept that tile so shiny people would stop, thinking it was wet wax on the deck.
OMG!!! EMO1. My home for years! Thank you for that. As for flooring, I vividly remember waxing the passage in front of engineering office/DC central. The battle between the main spaces for who had the shiniest deck on Broadway. BTW, you left out the most important flooring, Deck plates and Deck grates in the main spaces! Everything else is just for ship riders!! LOL...
If it makes you feel any better, I was doing laundry while you were talking about tile and paint. These are the real minutia of maintaining and operating a 2500+ man steel city on the ocean, and they're surprisingly engaging. Thanks for the work you put in.
Sweepers Sweepers man your brooms , give the ship a clean sweep down fore and aft sweep all ladders decks and passageways now sweepers. The faintail if open for the dumping of trash, take all dumpable trash to the faintail.
I'll never forget the start of my first patrol cycle. We were tied up alongside the tender USS Simon Lake (AS-33) and had just finished taking the boat from the other crew when I hear this announcement over the 1MC on the tender... "Sweepers, Sweepers, man your brooms...." and just stood there topside listening to the announcement and thinking "W. T. H???" Come to find out that surface ships have a whole bunch of routine and rather peculiar announcements (and practices) that submarines definitely don't have. Like the whole bells thing. Don't ask me to tell time from the bells because I have no freakin idea. Anyway... decks. Most all of our decks were tile except for Missile Control Center, the Goat Locker, the Wardroom, and CO/XO staterooms which were all carpet, and some areas of the Engine Room which were metal diamond deck plates. Cleaning the non-carpeted decks was limited to sweeping with foxtails as brooms and sponges as mops (still don't understand why we couldn't have regular brooms and mops), and scrubbing them with greenie scrub pads. Waxing while underway was prohibited because the chemicals in the wax were atmospheric contaminants.
The "Lessons Learned" section of the Combat Action Report from BB57 SOUTH DAKOTA following her point-blank range night gun fight with IJN BB KIRISHIMA and CA ATAGO and TAKAO early on the morning of 15 November 1942 noted that "(1) All time spent in the removal of paint and linoleum returns 1,000 percent dividends". Despite taking 26 shell hits there were no major fires. I'm thinking those bare steel decks your ship came with were a feature and not a defect. (CO BB57 U.S.S. South Dakota BB57/A16-3/(0165) “Action report, night engagement 14-15 November, 1942, with Japanese naval units, off Savo Island” p.21; Fold3 image 1/267868622).
Terrazzo in the common spaces and enlisted spaces. Tile in the officer spaces. Raised flooring in CIC, radio, sonar and other spaces that used a lot of cable. USS Badger FF-1071 and USS Brewton FF-1086, both Vietnam era ships that served until the 90's.
We had terrazzo everywhere (DDG), Our workcenters and CIC had a raised floor with tiles like a data center does, they were a complete nightmare to clean properly.
I was on a Spru-can and a flight I Burke. Felt like they both had the same sort of flooring. I remember those raised floors and seeing some of the roll-out flooring Ryan mentioned. I don't think we had to do much cleaning under the raised flooring often. I do remember those plastic screws being quite an issue sometimes, though.
Extremely constructive at being extremely destructive! Ryan, only you can make a half hour of my life go by about tile and make it interesting! Honestly, anything to do with this great ship is interesting. Every element of this ship was the pinnacle of human engineering. I guess that’s why 70 years later the ship still never ceases to amaze us on its advanced components. Thank you for your commitment on preserving this vital representation of what human beings can do when pushed to the extreme at being extremely destructive as well as extremely constructive all at the same time.
Blue and white tile in Engineering berthing. Ditto for passageways. Most engineering spaces were painted steel, with non-skid where appropriate. Weather decks were all Deck Grey non-skid. My workspace (IC/Gyro Shop) was the blue non-conductive rubber matting standard for electrical spaces. The non-conductive matting was a nightmare to install and maintain, as all seams had to be heat-sealed with special tooling. Repairing that matting properly was something that you had somebody come in and do. As the sole purpose of the electrical matting was to provide a barrier between you and the steel deck while working on electrical equipment, there were special cleaners which were supposed to be used, special cleaning methods, a VERY short list of non-buffing waxes, sweeping compounds which were supposed to be used when sweeping the space. I do know that these decks were often treated like any other decks, but this destroyed or lowered the electrical insulating properties of the deck covering. Not a huge deal in CIC and such, but something to be avoided around switchboards. To tie this in with a previous video: "Sweepers, Sweepers, man your brooms. Make a clean sweep down fore and aft. Sweep down all lower decks, ladder wells, and passageways. Throw all trash clear of the fantail." Entering/leaving port it was "Stage all trash in the designated areas on the fantail". In port was "Empty all trash in the receptacles provided on the pier". This was as recent as late 1990.
my pop on Ranger (CV~61) was in the last batch that really got the beatings crossing over,he was lucky though the warrant officer on board in his division was hated and took the brunt of the blows (by his recollection at the time the poor guy couldnt sit for a week from it)
I've been on shore duty for 2 years. As soon as you showed the miscolored tile it gave me PTSD from the carrier life. Something I'd never think about on an active ship that you'd never accept in an exhibit. Very interesting point Ryan.
Reminds me of that scene in... I forget which of the _Lethal Weapon_ movies. 2, I think. "What are you doing?" "Checking to make sure I'm not standing on plastic."
Late 90's we had poured rubber compound (PRC) on deck in some spaces. Prior to that seams between rubber matting were caulked, welded with rubber to seal the seams. No more waxing!
Good observation about the teak decking on the fantails of each Iowa class battleship. Missouri had the rubber coating from the aft end of the superstructure all the way back around Turret 3 to the flight deck. There was a small area of bare teak left between the flight deck and stern gun tubs. Most of the other ships had more exposed teak on the fantail.
As an OOD I had to say it on the 1MC. It actually went " Sweepers sweepers man your brooms. Give the ship a clean sweep down both fore and aft. Sweep down all lower decks, ladder wells and passage ways. Now sweepers". At least on my ship it was that word for word.
The rubber linoleum deck material in electronic spaces was there to ensure sailors servicing the equipment were not grounded to the ship, reducing the chance they would get a shock. The equipment normally was grounded.
I was on the Bush and was pet of the PRC team ripping up tile and laying the PRC. We laid white paint with blue flakes in enlisted P-Ways and blue with white lakes in officer P-ways. However we did lay red PRC in the aviation ordinance space and berthing, and tried to get green PRC for my Aviation Boatswain Mate Equipment spaces but that got shot down
A few years ago, I tested some 12x12's in a school that were just put down. One of the tiles was positive for asbestos with the other showing less than 1 percent. Then the samples for the glue and the floor leveler were positive. The funny part, the manufacturing notice said non-asbestos by the regulations covering that, but it just happened I found the areas that were positive. So it was legally manufactured as non-asbestos, but some spots, well it was not mixed well.
I really enjoyed having actual video examples of the various floortypes edited in, showing floor & space- it's nicer than just a still image. Great work as always, Libby & crew! Also, would those decorated sections of linoleum be considered sailor art, or did the somewhat more permanent nature of it make it different to the common allowed sailor's art?
One of the hardest jobs for yard periods is being sent to the Deck Team and having to beat up, rip up, carry up and to the pier dumpsters and replace the tile, blue matting, and PRC covered decks. Especially when the Chiefs in charge of the department/division get a brand new tile floor and the Chief next door got a brand new PRC deck. CVN-69 Deck Team 2013-2015. Never forget RIP to my soul and back lol. iTs NoT sErViCe ReLaTeD.
Battleships are a lot like high speed cameras, lots of otherwise uninteresting subject matter (like tile flooring) becomes interesting when one is involved 🤪
I've seen some awesome artistic talent in vinyl floor tile and bulkhead painting on some of my and other ships. Glad I got to see it. Now it's all sterile looking terrazzo.
Interior spaces were blue electrical matting, EW Equipment Room and CIC. EW Cooling Eoom was Deck Grey paint. P-ways were blue tile. Outside was Deck Grey and nonskid. Berthing was grey and tan tiles. Ops Office was grey and white tiles. Of course light lockers were black tile and the fan rooms off the light lockers were black paint.
Quite familiar with the flight deck non-skid (used on hanger decks also). We would use the same stuff on our helo on surfaces that we stepped on regularly and didn't want to slip off. There was also the sheet type that had adhesive on the back. We would use both. The problem with non-skid is that it didn't last long, a few months at most if heavily used. I was never in the Air Wing aboard a carrier but I hear it was common practice for a Squadron to re-tile their spaces at the beginning of a cruise.
"SEA GREEN" 9"X9", Tile every ware in "Berthing", Electric Motor, repair shop, but in mine, Bearing Install, we placed thick, Light Blue, roll rubber, Matt down, for "soft Deck" I loved it, esp. my feet, sometimes would just, wear my socks/"White of COURSE", late @ nite "Darken ship".
Modern ships use PRC on most interior decks, and non-skid on the weatherdecks. USS Blue Ridge and USS Mount Whitney had teak decks in their side ports recently but that may have changed.
Cold War era Canadian ship used a lot of red Armstrong tiles( destroyer red) With white flecks in them. Messes would be carpeted for the most part. I do remember some tan tiles And a lot or anti skid or steel decks as well. Not too many other colours come to mind.
Hey Ryan!!!! An awesome video to make would be a video about the potential of the 16inchers. What I mean is that We know that if the navy had kept the Iowa’s they would have implemented technologies exc that would have extended the range, capabilities exc of the guns. I would love to see a video taking a deep dive into what they may or may not have done or what they had plans to do and what impact these modifications would have on the guns exc. lol long comment but I hope you read it love you guys!!!!
Probably the biggest range boost would have been to modify the shells to have a rear gas generation charge, so that the drag from the airflow around the stub rear would be reduced greatly. On the 155mm shells that enabled you to up the range from 12km to 16km, and improved your aiming error considerably, as you did not have the changing air density robbing energy from the shell. That was why the US military were really worried in Gulf war 1, as the G6 cannons that Saddam had would outreach thier own 155mm cannon by a good deal, and the shells were more likely to hit the target at extreme rengem and be more consistent as well. Easy enough to do, the only drawback would be that they now would need to have 2 shell arming stations, plus a lift to enable you to insert the rear charge arming fuse, before it went into the turret, as placing while in the breech would reduce fire rate considerably, plus there is little room to do it safely there. Would have involved either making new munitions, or decanting the existing stock of explosive, and then machining out the rear to install a drop in container, then a refill. Would likely involve a 100lb reduction in the charge volume, to get the space required. Doable, and the explosive is easy to remove just with a boiling water bath, followed by a thorough pressure wash with solvent, and a bake cycle to ensure it is all gone. Then one big ass lathe to hold it, and a welder who will make the 2 parts one.
Black Beauty has many properties like sand, but it is a byproduct of burning coal. It’s low silica content makes it much safer for use in abrasive blasting. Silica sand can be very hazardous when blasting, as the silica breaks down into particles so small that they can clog pores in the lungs and effectively drown a person.
Hmmmm, On the USS Dixie after our 78-79 yard period the berthing spaces were yellow tile and the Bridge was green and black checkerboard. Passageways were done in green tile. When I first came on board we had teak decks but they started removing much of it in early 77. That continued until the end of the yards when only the main deck, the 01 deck and the Captains veranda kept their teak.
I didn't know I was about to watch a video about Battleship floors, but here we are. Thanks for these constantly interesting videos! Seriously good facts here. I've toured Missouri and intend to see all 4. I think New Jersey should be next!
you know what would make an amazing bar top is to get a deck section then gather challenge coins that belonged to veterans that served on the ship that have since died encased in epoxy
Not sure when the whole "challenge coin" thing started, but I left active duty in late 1990 and had neither seen nor heard of any such thing. We generally exchanged ship's ball caps and Zippo lighters.
The history of challenge coins is debated, but heres an article from the New York Times about the broad strokes of it www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/us/politics/challenge-coins.html
At the very least just keep the various coins you find in the ship spaces in a jar, and then take some of the coins and epoxy encase them, as a way to recall the decades of service by the coins that were lost. If you have duplicates of a year then you can have both faces visible, otherwise just the year. A way to show just how long this ship has been in service, and the missing decades of coins how long it was in mothballs.
The expressions "To call on the carpet," "Called out on the carpet" and similar predate the use of carpeted officer's quarters on modern warships. Forms were in use in the 19th century, when only the wealthy and powerful could afford carpets, so it meant you had been called in front of the leadership of a major corporation to account for something that had occurred. There are also references to a small carpet being the designated place of an ambassador to stand in an audience with a ruler if the ruler was angry with whomever the ambassador was from. (Theoretically, an ambassador is equal in rank to the leader who sent the ambassador, so being made to stand during an audience while the other party was seated was a humiliating rebuke in itself.) There are even references to the Inquisition using a small carpet to designate where a person under investigation was to stand during a hearing. (In European tradition, those of higher rank are entitled to sit first and under some circumstances are the only ones permitted to sit. Remnants of this persist in modern western society as such things as the custom that a presiding Judge must be seated and then give permission before other people present in a Court may sit.)
The terrazzo is really durable and wear resistant but is also slick as ice when wet, especially if you happen to be barefooted like in the shower. The rubber sheeting is a good electrical insulator, until you wax it and that happens almost immediately because the Navy loves shiny floors. Those door mounted light switches will make you crazy if it's in your work center because the lights are always turning on and off at random intervals so they were usually just disabled. In my time aboard the USS Olympia (SSN-717) from the late 80's to the mid 90's all floors were tan.
Our berthing compartments had green tiles and the painted walls had green wainscotting with a lighter cream color to the overhead, the overheads were a light cream color, which words better than white. Certainly this was so on the USS Coral Sea, but I believe it was also so on the USS Constellation.
I have read extensively on all topics concerning battleships. Your videos put most of what I have read to shame. Your coverage of battleships is superb. I found your channel two weeks ago and have been watching as many of your videos as I can. Very few so called battleship "experts" have spent twenty minutes sitting on a deck discussing floor coverings. Your topics cover more than the length and weight of a battleship or how far a shell will travel. You address the basic things that make the ship go, and are of interest to the average person. I look forward to all your postings.
Good old VCT. That's Vinyl Composite Tile. We have lots of the stuff where I work. Everything Ryan said about water damage & trying to match colors after a few years is true. Stripping & new wax is another pain. I've been told the stuff is falling out of favor. Hopefully the ship will still be able to get what they need for accuracy sake.
Asbestos poses no environmental hazard. It's a mineral found in nature. The issue with it is that it's a health hazard that causes lung issues. The disposal of asbestos results in if being buied at the bottom of landfills, where it's least likely to be disturbed.
Heck . . . my Grandparent's house had asbestos siding, that replaced the original wood siding. There are a few homes in my neighborhood that still have it. Never needs painting, and is guaranteed to be fire proof. :-)
@@jayshaw63 Painting is probably good thing. Asbestos is dangerous when it becomes airborne. Paint holds down any stray fibers. After an asbestos abatement, it's usually the painters that go in first, as the paint encapsulates any stray fibers that may have been left behind, rendering them inert.
@@jayshaw63 Not correct. The purpose isn't to cover up existing asbestos. IT's to encapsulate anty stray fibers that may have escaped the abatement process. When the paint is removed, the asbestos fibers are still encapsulated withing the paint chips, and in such small amount that it doesn't matter. Also, one of the ways asbestos is dealt with is via encapsulation to prevent it's becoming aidborne, in situations where it's removal isn't possible or desired.
I would love to volunteer to work on this project. Unfortunately, I'm 2,000 miles away. Also, I was fortunate to go on board the USS Stetham years ago. She has interior flooring that looks like a hard wood deck.
As a building maintenance engineer, this is just one of the many aspects I get to play with daily- and many of the challenges that a museum ship faces are no different than active 'public buildings ' as it were. Question - could you good folks detail how and where you are getting the teak wood from? IE, is it harvested locally or not, is it 'off the shelf' or special order, that sort? Thanx, and always enjoy the work Ryan and crew put in!
Heres our video just about the deck project. But the teak comes from Myanmar and I'd say that, like anyone ordering in bulk like this, its someone what special order, but they arent doing more than sending it in our preferred quantities and in a standard size. ruclips.net/video/q1bLAeTJEQE/видео.html
USS Rodney M. Davis (FFG 60) was transitioning from linoleum decks to terrazzo (PRC) decking 1997-2000. The passageways CS07 workcenter (part of CS-4, later CE Division) were responsible for were blue linoleum with a white border just outside of the Wardroom and Officer's Country. They were among the last to be replaced with PRC decking. Linoleum needs to be waxed periodically and waxing also requires the occaisional stripping. PRC decking requires a good once-over with a steaming hot swab (mop) to look like a million bucks. tl;dr - linoleum sucks
Wouldn't it be plausible to rip up the tile, put down an appropriate compound, and then just keep maybe one or two spaces per tile color of tile, along the usual tour route? It's good to keep the ship looking as she did, but it's also key to keeping her in as good of a condition as long as possible
@@BattleshipNewJersey Have you thought about selling replacement tiles? $10 for a tile that would have the name of a loved one neatly print in small text discretely along an edge and installed in place of a damaged tile? I know of several places that do that with bricks and concrete pavers and end up with some extra money to help their mission.
Does anyone know why Wisconsin was only BB to get the team replaced- was is shortage of material, cost or just expediency? I had to replace some team rail on my boat and had to buy a 6 in wide 4 ft piece back in the 90s and know what that cost, can’t imagine an entire BB deck, even at 80s prices
Hey, has anybody tried dying the new tile to match the old colored tile? I would think that new tile that was striped of wax and cleaned well would take clothes dye, the kind from the grocery store(Rite might be the name I remember).
Ryan don't joke with us about an hour and a half on flooring. We all know if Drachinifel did an hour and a half long dissertation on the development of ship decking and flooring technology from “pre Dreadnought to post war era”. We would watch it gladly.
“Write that down! Write that down!” -Drachinifel, probably
I would be in for an hour and a half on just about any of the subjects.
I served on the Newport News CA148 during her last Vietnam cruise in 1972. She was commissioned in 1948 and still had the teak decks.The 8" guns on the News were fully automatic and fired two piece ammunition. You had the projectile which weighed something like 250 pounds. The propellant was contained in a brass casing that was about 4 feet long. Imagine a piece of .38 special brass magnified about 100 times. After the gun was fired, the propellant case was ejected out of a port under the gun tube. These fired cases were hot and had a sharp edge at the mouth. To save the teak decks from fire or major damage, 3/4" plywood was screwed or nailed to the deck around the main turrets. I recall that the 5" propellant cases came out of the rear of the mounts and were a pretty light alloy - maybe aluminum - and didn't seem to have the potential to damage the wooden deck.
I remember reading in one of Samuel Morrison's books that the pre WW2 treaty cruisers and standard battleships were pretty much stripped down to bare metal and received only one coat of paint after mid 42 because of fire hazards.
The old red lead paint used below the waterline and in the bilges wasn't the most environmentally friendly stuff. I worked in the engine room and we figured that if the lead paint didn't get us, the asbestos pipe insulation would, while we went deaf from the ambient sound level. We didn't know any better in those days..
Why is it that one of the most effective insulators just happens to be cheap as well. Sounds great. We can form it to fill any space, stick to walls and around pipes. We can even make awesome fire protection equipment and wonderful gloves to handle hot stuff. Even protect tools. And we can just mine it out of the ground. But oh, by the way, one thing, it will give you lung cancer in the long run just for working with it.
Gut wrenching news. That's what our soldiers get, working and repairing the machine in constant high level noise, toxic paint and equipment as you mentioned. If they survive the war. Hopefully they'll survive the toxic stuff years later. Just another thing to appreciate about those who serve, they not only put their lives on the line to save the country and citizens, but they give up some of their freedoms and protections, on top of their health, to defend the USA and Americans.
I'm glad your still around, hopefully the health is doing well. Thank you being there to keep that ship running.
Totally different scenario, my uncle worked most of his life with large amounts of weird solvents and brand new untested medication candidates. He's just waiting for the cancer arrived, and when it did he beat it, but the threats still there. Sucks to be worried like that your whole life. At least he could have quit the lab job if he wanted too.
I wonder how much safer it is now in the Navy and what risks we do and don't know about still exist even outside of the dangers of combat.
I was a U.S. submarine sailor 1962 - 1970. I was on two Balao class (WW II) boats older than me, and then two nukes a few years old. Most of our deck covering in living spaces was sheet linoleum with fabric backing. We called it "battleship linoleum." but didn't know it was in limited use on battleships. Oh, well, that was then and this is now. It would take me about half an hour to get from my bunk to my battle station.
Dude, where the heck was your battlestation? I served aboard an aircraft carrier (which is considerably bigger than a submarine) and could go from bunk, which was forward part of the ship, all the way to the aft end in 5mins.
@@jeffburnham6611 With severe arthritis and in a wheelchair it would NOW take ma a while to get to my battle station. Navy ships are not A.D.A compliant.
@@jeffburnham6611 Subs, esp. WWII boats, were very crampted with narrow passages often multi-use and stuffed with men and supplies. They were nothing like the museum ships are today, (unless you get tangled up with a whole tour group). I can believe it took a while to get around.
@ Robert - Wasn't that flooring supposed to be sound deadening?
I was on an Oiler in late 80's. Weather decks were non skid, an epoxy like substance with lots of grit. The heads were "bathroom tile". Berthing, passage ways, mess decks, etc ... were 9" and/or 12" tile. Electric/electronic spaces were vinyl sheet, all seems were "welded" together. The vinyl sheet material was electrical insulating.
I imagine it would really suck if you poured a couple rooms worth of leveling compound and then discovered the ship was ballasted wrong giving your new floor a 5deg list to port.
I was thinking the same thing.
I'm guessing- since it's common with leveling on land-based jobs, that you would have a spirit level to check things with.
But yea, that would not be fun.
Or if you missed a hole somewhere and ended up unwittingly pouring a bunch of junk into the overhead one deck down. (I know someone who did this in the front hall of a house, where it only made a mess in the basement. I can only assume that on a ship it would be much, much more annoying to clean up.)
When I was on the Coral Sea in '79 we went out on what they called the "rehab cruise" right after she came out of a long refit. It was also the period where our aircrew did carrier quals before our WESTPAC - I/O cruise later in the year. That's the time where people were detailed to re-lay tile and chip and paint in what were to become their workspaces. That's when the fancy inlay work was done a lot of the time since there wasn't a lot of regular duty or drills going on since we were only out for about six weeks.
We also got to endure a trip from Alameda all the way to San Diego at flank speed as part of the trials for the work done during the refit. Very noisy, the rumor was that there was a bent shaft but it might have just been the nature of the beast when running full out for almost a thousand miles. I was in a berthing space right under the arresting gear for that cruise. It's amazing what you can learn to sleep through.
Yeah. My bunk was pretty much right under the bullseye on the helo deck. Bear in mid this was on a Replenishment Oiler with helo crews trying to maintain their qual's for VertRep. The standard practice load that they used was a steel rack full of dummy 5" shells. They quite obviously would frequently release the hook before the load was actually on deck, dropping it the last few inches. We were diligent in cleaning the overheads. Any dirt/dust/debris in the overhead would shortly be on the deck and in the top racks if we were not.
@@kevincrosby1760 Hah! That reminds me of something. When we were on the way back stateside at the end of our WESTPAC, we were cross-decking all the ammo out of the ship before we came in. They were VERTREPing it over to the Kiluea using CH-46s. The bomb bodies for Mk-82 500 pound bombs are stored in a big wire cage crate that holds six of them. One was hooked to a helo and being lifted away, as it got up to about 100 feet or so, one of the bombs fell out of the crate and landed on the flight deck. BAWANG! (The Coral Sea had an armored flight deck). They just calmly rolled the bomb over to the deck edge and continued on with the job.
I was the master of waxing the floor in our berthing compartment by hand with a sponge lol. You would tape off one side of the passageway for waxing, leaving the other side open for foot traffic. Once the wax was dry you did the other side. Trying to get a perfect blending so you didn't see the seem down the middle of the passageway was always fun.
Friend of mine did his basic training in a tent on dirt. They had to polish that dirt till it shone, and wax it weekly with paste wax.
I was on a Destroyer Tender. The Puget Sound. AD38. I was in charge of the passageway in front of Sick Bay so it was heavily traveled. I kept that tile so shiny people would stop, thinking it was wet wax on the deck.
OMG!!! EMO1. My home for years! Thank you for that.
As for flooring, I vividly remember waxing the passage in front of engineering office/DC central. The battle between the main spaces for who had the shiniest deck on Broadway.
BTW, you left out the most important flooring, Deck plates and Deck grates in the main spaces! Everything else is just for ship riders!! LOL...
If it makes you feel any better, I was doing laundry while you were talking about tile and paint. These are the real minutia of maintaining and operating a 2500+ man steel city on the ocean, and they're surprisingly engaging. Thanks for the work you put in.
Sweepers Sweepers man your brooms , give the ship a clean sweep down fore and aft sweep all ladders decks and passageways now sweepers. The faintail if open for the dumping of trash, take all dumpable trash to the faintail.
I'll never forget the start of my first patrol cycle. We were tied up alongside the tender USS Simon Lake (AS-33) and had just finished taking the boat from the other crew when I hear this announcement over the 1MC on the tender... "Sweepers, Sweepers, man your brooms...." and just stood there topside listening to the announcement and thinking "W. T. H???" Come to find out that surface ships have a whole bunch of routine and rather peculiar announcements (and practices) that submarines definitely don't have. Like the whole bells thing. Don't ask me to tell time from the bells because I have no freakin idea.
Anyway... decks. Most all of our decks were tile except for Missile Control Center, the Goat Locker, the Wardroom, and CO/XO staterooms which were all carpet, and some areas of the Engine Room which were metal diamond deck plates. Cleaning the non-carpeted decks was limited to sweeping with foxtails as brooms and sponges as mops (still don't understand why we couldn't have regular brooms and mops), and scrubbing them with greenie scrub pads. Waxing while underway was prohibited because the chemicals in the wax were atmospheric contaminants.
I’m glad I jumped into this highly engaging discussion on floor tile at the 15min Mark. Somehow you made it interesting.
The "Lessons Learned" section of the Combat Action Report from BB57 SOUTH DAKOTA following her point-blank range night gun fight with IJN BB KIRISHIMA and CA ATAGO and TAKAO early on the morning of 15 November 1942 noted that "(1) All time spent in the removal of paint and linoleum returns 1,000 percent dividends". Despite taking 26 shell hits there were no major fires. I'm thinking those bare steel decks your ship came with were a feature and not a defect. (CO BB57 U.S.S. South Dakota BB57/A16-3/(0165) “Action report, night engagement 14-15 November, 1942, with Japanese naval units, off Savo Island” p.21; Fold3 image 1/267868622).
Terrazzo in the common spaces and enlisted spaces. Tile in the officer spaces. Raised flooring in CIC, radio, sonar and other spaces that used a lot of cable. USS Badger FF-1071 and USS Brewton FF-1086, both Vietnam era ships that served until the 90's.
Much more informative than watching paint dry.
We had terrazzo everywhere (DDG), Our workcenters and CIC had a raised floor with tiles like a data center does, they were a complete nightmare to clean properly.
I was on a Spru-can and a flight I Burke. Felt like they both had the same sort of flooring. I remember those raised floors and seeing some of the roll-out flooring Ryan mentioned. I don't think we had to do much cleaning under the raised flooring often. I do remember those plastic screws being quite an issue sometimes, though.
Only rubber was in the electrical spaces.
Extremely constructive at being extremely destructive!
Ryan, only you can make a half hour of my life go by about tile and make it interesting! Honestly, anything to do with this great ship is interesting. Every element of this ship was the pinnacle of human engineering. I guess that’s why 70 years later the ship still never ceases to amaze us on its advanced components. Thank you for your commitment on preserving this vital representation of what human beings can do when pushed to the extreme at being extremely destructive as well as extremely constructive all at the same time.
Blue and white tile in Engineering berthing. Ditto for passageways. Most engineering spaces were painted steel, with non-skid where appropriate. Weather decks were all Deck Grey non-skid. My workspace (IC/Gyro Shop) was the blue non-conductive rubber matting standard for electrical spaces. The non-conductive matting was a nightmare to install and maintain, as all seams had to be heat-sealed with special tooling. Repairing that matting properly was something that you had somebody come in and do.
As the sole purpose of the electrical matting was to provide a barrier between you and the steel deck while working on electrical equipment, there were special cleaners which were supposed to be used, special cleaning methods, a VERY short list of non-buffing waxes, sweeping compounds which were supposed to be used when sweeping the space. I do know that these decks were often treated like any other decks, but this destroyed or lowered the electrical insulating properties of the deck covering. Not a huge deal in CIC and such, but something to be avoided around switchboards.
To tie this in with a previous video:
"Sweepers, Sweepers, man your brooms. Make a clean sweep down fore and aft. Sweep down all lower decks, ladder wells, and passageways. Throw all trash clear of the fantail." Entering/leaving port it was "Stage all trash in the designated areas on the fantail". In port was "Empty all trash in the receptacles provided on the pier". This was as recent as late 1990.
This is some really underrated knowledge. I didn't know about non-slip coating for steel floors.
totally would watch an hour and half video on battleship floors
From the videos of shellback ceremonies on RUclips, it seems sailors would be intimately familiar with the decks on their ship.
Honestly, I did debate including that in this
my pop on Ranger (CV~61) was in the last batch that really got the beatings crossing over,he was lucky though the warrant officer on board in his division was hated and took the brunt of the blows (by his recollection at the time the poor guy couldnt sit for a week from it)
@@redeyedwithanger5866 I guess that warrant was no Mr. Roberts.
I now know more about navy ship floor coverings than most people. Thank you.
I've been on shore duty for 2 years. As soon as you showed the miscolored tile it gave me PTSD from the carrier life. Something I'd never think about on an active ship that you'd never accept in an exhibit. Very interesting point Ryan.
Thanks for explaining the “called to the carpet” meaning. Really makes sense now.
Reminds me of that scene in... I forget which of the _Lethal Weapon_ movies. 2, I think. "What are you doing?" "Checking to make sure I'm not standing on plastic."
Late 90's we had poured rubber compound (PRC) on deck in some spaces. Prior to that seams between rubber matting were caulked, welded with rubber to seal the seams. No more waxing!
Good observation about the teak decking on the fantails of each Iowa class battleship. Missouri had the rubber coating from the aft end of the superstructure all the way back around Turret 3 to the flight deck. There was a small area of bare teak left between the flight deck and stern gun tubs. Most of the other ships had more exposed teak on the fantail.
As an OOD I had to say it on the 1MC. It actually went " Sweepers sweepers man your brooms. Give the ship a clean sweep down both fore and aft. Sweep down all lower decks, ladder wells and passage ways. Now sweepers". At least on my ship it was that word for word.
Hahaha that taunt at the end! Ryan you are truly gifted ya know? That was fascinating!
The rubber linoleum deck material in electronic spaces was there to ensure sailors servicing the equipment were not grounded to the ship, reducing the chance they would get a shock. The equipment normally was grounded.
I love the humor when talking about the length of the video.
I was on the Bush and was pet of the PRC team ripping up tile and laying the PRC. We laid white paint with blue flakes in enlisted P-Ways and blue with white lakes in officer P-ways. However we did lay red PRC in the aviation ordinance space and berthing, and tried to get green PRC for my Aviation Boatswain Mate Equipment spaces but that got shot down
A few years ago, I tested some 12x12's in a school that were just put down. One of the tiles was positive for asbestos with the other showing less than 1 percent. Then the samples for the glue and the floor leveler were positive. The funny part, the manufacturing notice said non-asbestos by the regulations covering that, but it just happened I found the areas that were positive. So it was legally manufactured as non-asbestos, but some spots, well it was not mixed well.
I honestly love videos like this.
I really enjoyed having actual video examples of the various floortypes edited in, showing floor & space- it's nicer than just a still image. Great work as always, Libby & crew!
Also, would those decorated sections of linoleum be considered sailor art, or did the somewhat more permanent nature of it make it different to the common allowed sailor's art?
I consider it to be sailor art, but we don't have a specific definition of it.
One of the hardest jobs for yard periods is being sent to the Deck Team and having to beat up, rip up, carry up and to the pier dumpsters and replace the tile, blue matting, and PRC covered decks. Especially when the Chiefs in charge of the department/division get a brand new tile floor and the Chief next door got a brand new PRC deck. CVN-69 Deck Team 2013-2015. Never forget RIP to my soul and back lol. iTs NoT sErViCe ReLaTeD.
We had teak wood decks on the USS Newport News (CA-148), that was commissioned in 1949.
Battleships are a lot like high speed cameras, lots of otherwise uninteresting subject matter (like tile flooring) becomes interesting when one is involved 🤪
Don't forget NJ has a the rubberized anti-wear surface on the bow under the ground tackle. It's not exactly "flooring" but it is a decking material.
I've seen some awesome artistic talent in vinyl floor tile and bulkhead painting on some of my and other ships. Glad I got to see it.
Now it's all sterile looking terrazzo.
Interior spaces were blue electrical matting, EW Equipment Room and CIC. EW Cooling Eoom was Deck Grey paint. P-ways were blue tile. Outside was Deck Grey and nonskid.
Berthing was grey and tan tiles. Ops Office was grey and white tiles. Of course light lockers were black tile and the fan rooms off the light lockers were black paint.
Great video, I would have not thought that the flooring conceptualization would be this interesting. Love the channel
Quite familiar with the flight deck non-skid (used on hanger decks also). We would use the same stuff on our helo on surfaces that we stepped on regularly and didn't want to slip off. There was also the sheet type that had adhesive on the back. We would use both.
The problem with non-skid is that it didn't last long, a few months at most if heavily used.
I was never in the Air Wing aboard a carrier but I hear it was common practice for a Squadron to re-tile their spaces at the beginning of a cruise.
"SEA GREEN" 9"X9", Tile every ware in "Berthing", Electric Motor, repair shop, but in mine, Bearing Install, we placed thick, Light Blue, roll rubber, Matt down, for "soft Deck" I loved it, esp. my feet, sometimes would just, wear my socks/"White of COURSE", late @ nite "Darken ship".
Dad’s ship the USS Yorktown is a museum in Charleston SC. I remember the deck being painted with foot steps painted in red
Modern ships use PRC on most interior decks, and non-skid on the weatherdecks. USS Blue Ridge and USS Mount Whitney had teak decks in their side ports recently but that may have changed.
my mother waxed our lineolm ties which turned the tiles into death traps except where we have carpet.
Cold War era Canadian ship used a lot of red Armstrong tiles( destroyer red)
With white flecks in them. Messes would be carpeted for the most part.
I do remember some tan tiles
And a lot or anti skid or steel decks as well. Not too many other colours come to mind.
Hey Ryan!!!! An awesome video to make would be a video about the potential of the 16inchers. What I mean is that We know that if the navy had kept the Iowa’s they would have implemented technologies exc that would have extended the range, capabilities exc of the guns. I would love to see a video taking a deep dive into what they may or may not have done or what they had plans to do and what impact these modifications would have on the guns exc. lol long comment but I hope you read it love you guys!!!!
Probably the biggest range boost would have been to modify the shells to have a rear gas generation charge, so that the drag from the airflow around the stub rear would be reduced greatly. On the 155mm shells that enabled you to up the range from 12km to 16km, and improved your aiming error considerably, as you did not have the changing air density robbing energy from the shell. That was why the US military were really worried in Gulf war 1, as the G6 cannons that Saddam had would outreach thier own 155mm cannon by a good deal, and the shells were more likely to hit the target at extreme rengem and be more consistent as well.
Easy enough to do, the only drawback would be that they now would need to have 2 shell arming stations, plus a lift to enable you to insert the rear charge arming fuse, before it went into the turret, as placing while in the breech would reduce fire rate considerably, plus there is little room to do it safely there. Would have involved either making new munitions, or decanting the existing stock of explosive, and then machining out the rear to install a drop in container, then a refill. Would likely involve a 100lb reduction in the charge volume, to get the space required. Doable, and the explosive is easy to remove just with a boiling water bath, followed by a thorough pressure wash with solvent, and a bake cycle to ensure it is all gone. Then one big ass lathe to hold it, and a welder who will make the 2 parts one.
A 16" m982 excalibur to suit would seem logical, a GPS/inertial shell would be unpleasant to be on the receiving end of.
Flooring? ... I love flooring!
I was all in on this one, which surprisingly turned out pretty interesting.
Thanks!
Black Beauty has many properties like sand, but it is a byproduct of burning coal. It’s low silica content makes it much safer for use in abrasive blasting. Silica sand can be very hazardous when blasting, as the silica breaks down into particles so small that they can clog pores in the lungs and effectively drown a person.
Hmmmm, On the USS Dixie after our 78-79 yard period the berthing spaces were yellow tile and the Bridge was green and black checkerboard. Passageways were done in green tile. When I first came on board we had teak decks but they started removing much of it in early 77. That continued until the end of the yards when only the main deck, the 01 deck and the Captains veranda kept their teak.
I have a piece of the original teak deck that was branded USS DIXIE to commemorate the 40th birthday. Everyone on board that day received one.
Sweepers sweepers man your brooms give the ship a clean sweep down both for and aft, sweep down all ladders decks and passageways now sweepers!
I didn't know I was about to watch a video about Battleship floors, but here we are. Thanks for these constantly interesting videos! Seriously good facts here. I've toured Missouri and intend to see all 4. I think New Jersey should be next!
My Friend Bebo was on the Newport News off Dixie Station. Mac Marine for sure!
Man I just love what you are doing for your ship!!
you know what would make an amazing bar top is to get a deck section then gather challenge coins that belonged to veterans that served on the ship that have since died encased in epoxy
Not sure when the whole "challenge coin" thing started, but I left active duty in late 1990 and had neither seen nor heard of any such thing. We generally exchanged ship's ball caps and Zippo lighters.
The history of challenge coins is debated, but heres an article from the New York Times about the broad strokes of it www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/us/politics/challenge-coins.html
@@kevincrosby1760 I'd heard of them by the late '90s in the Air Guard but they weren't wide spread at that time.
At the very least just keep the various coins you find in the ship spaces in a jar, and then take some of the coins and epoxy encase them, as a way to recall the decades of service by the coins that were lost. If you have duplicates of a year then you can have both faces visible, otherwise just the year. A way to show just how long this ship has been in service, and the missing decades of coins how long it was in mothballs.
Bet there's a few pallets of the old colored tiles in the paint lockers
The expressions "To call on the carpet," "Called out on the carpet" and similar predate the use of carpeted officer's quarters on modern warships. Forms were in use in the 19th century, when only the wealthy and powerful could afford carpets, so it meant you had been called in front of the leadership of a major corporation to account for something that had occurred. There are also references to a small carpet being the designated place of an ambassador to stand in an audience with a ruler if the ruler was angry with whomever the ambassador was from. (Theoretically, an ambassador is equal in rank to the leader who sent the ambassador, so being made to stand during an audience while the other party was seated was a humiliating rebuke in itself.) There are even references to the Inquisition using a small carpet to designate where a person under investigation was to stand during a hearing. (In European tradition, those of higher rank are entitled to sit first and under some circumstances are the only ones permitted to sit. Remnants of this persist in modern western society as such things as the custom that a presiding Judge must be seated and then give permission before other people present in a Court may sit.)
I'd listen to Ryan talk about flooring for hours
The terrazzo is really durable and wear resistant but is also slick as ice when wet, especially if you happen to be barefooted like in the shower. The rubber sheeting is a good electrical insulator, until you wax it and that happens almost immediately because the Navy loves shiny floors. Those door mounted light switches will make you crazy if it's in your work center because the lights are always turning on and off at random intervals so they were usually just disabled. In my time aboard the USS Olympia (SSN-717) from the late 80's to the mid 90's all floors were tan.
I was under the impression that this video would discuss actual sweepers and/or cleaning stations.
Our berthing compartments had green tiles and the painted walls had green wainscotting with a lighter cream color to the overhead, the overheads were a light cream color, which words better than white. Certainly this was so on the USS Coral Sea, but I believe it was also so on the USS Constellation.
was on the Independence Cv 62 when it went into slep, and they pulled the tile recall seeing a hole down into hangar.
We used that terraza compound in the meat depts that I worked in. Makes spraying away the blood much easier.
I can watch these all day long.... cool videos
I have read extensively on all topics concerning battleships. Your videos put most of what I have read to shame. Your coverage of battleships is superb. I found your channel two weeks ago and have been watching as many of your videos as I can. Very few so called battleship "experts" have spent twenty minutes sitting on a deck discussing floor coverings. Your topics cover more than the length and weight of a battleship or how far a shell will travel. You address the basic things that make the ship go, and are of interest to the average person. I look forward to all your postings.
Welcome to the crew, shipmate! Let us know what you want us to talk about. We love suggestions.
Good old VCT. That's Vinyl Composite Tile. We have lots of the stuff where I work. Everything Ryan said about water damage & trying to match colors after a few years is true. Stripping & new wax is another pain. I've been told the stuff is falling out of favor. Hopefully the ship will still be able to get what they need for accuracy sake.
Asbestos poses no environmental hazard. It's a mineral found in nature. The issue with it is that it's a health hazard that causes lung issues. The disposal of asbestos results in if being buied at the bottom of landfills, where it's least likely to be disturbed.
Heck . . . my Grandparent's house had asbestos siding, that replaced the original wood siding. There are a few homes in my neighborhood that still have it. Never needs painting, and is guaranteed to be fire proof. :-)
@@jayshaw63 Painting is probably good thing. Asbestos is dangerous when it becomes airborne. Paint holds down any stray fibers. After an asbestos abatement, it's usually the painters that go in first, as the paint encapsulates any stray fibers that may have been left behind, rendering them inert.
@@ravenbarsrepairs5594 Sure, great idea . . . and then in a few years when the paint begins to peel you get to go and scrape it off of the asbestos.
@@jayshaw63 Not correct. The purpose isn't to cover up existing asbestos. IT's to encapsulate anty stray fibers that may have escaped the abatement process. When the paint is removed, the asbestos fibers are still encapsulated withing the paint chips, and in such small amount that it doesn't matter. Also, one of the ways asbestos is dealt with is via encapsulation to prevent it's becoming aidborne, in situations where it's removal isn't possible or desired.
Lol, very interesting. For restoration i would think we'd want any humidity to vent and avoid anything of different metallic composition.
I would love to volunteer to work on this project. Unfortunately, I'm 2,000 miles away.
Also, I was fortunate to go on board the USS Stetham years ago. She has interior flooring that looks like a hard wood deck.
I was hoping to see something on brooms. Well, that's a topic for another vid... :)
fascinating...
do not forget the heavy cruisers
The USS Long Beach was the last ship it with teak decks
10:37 Are there alternative leveling compounds that, while not period correct, are less likely to contribute to deterioration of the ship?
I used to work on LST 1166 it had green tile in most places
Floors: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the battleship _New Jersey._ Her five-year mission: to replace all this lousy tile.
Looking back at some of my old photos.. The bridge of the USS Dubuque LPD-8 has green(ish) tile...
awesome
The nonskid strip in the doorways has been restored/replaced with skateboard grip tape now, hasn't it?
We use a combination of a grip tape and the non-skid paint. Depends on location.
Sweepers Awake. A Johann Sebastian Bach cantata.
As a building maintenance engineer, this is just one of the many aspects I get to play with daily- and many of the challenges that a museum ship faces are no different than active 'public buildings ' as it were. Question - could you good folks detail how and where you are getting the teak wood from? IE, is it harvested locally or not, is it 'off the shelf' or special order, that sort? Thanx, and always enjoy the work Ryan and crew put in!
Heres our video just about the deck project. But the teak comes from Myanmar and I'd say that, like anyone ordering in bulk like this, its someone what special order, but they arent doing more than sending it in our preferred quantities and in a standard size.
ruclips.net/video/q1bLAeTJEQE/видео.html
What type of. Flooring do you want
Well USS Long Beach Was the last ship traded with teak decks
it's more impressive you can talk this long about tiles then we can listen that long!
So did anybody here ride the buffer? Come on? Bored? Late night? No one is around? Or maybe buffer rodeo? The crap sailors do is infinite ❤️!
I thought they were going to talk the minesweeper uss hazard but then it was about floors
USS Rodney M. Davis (FFG 60) was transitioning from linoleum decks to terrazzo (PRC) decking 1997-2000. The passageways CS07 workcenter (part of CS-4, later CE Division) were responsible for were blue linoleum with a white border just outside of the Wardroom and Officer's Country. They were among the last to be replaced with PRC decking. Linoleum needs to be waxed periodically and waxing also requires the occaisional stripping. PRC decking requires a good once-over with a steaming hot swab (mop) to look like a million bucks.
tl;dr - linoleum sucks
Wouldn't it be plausible to rip up the tile, put down an appropriate compound, and then just keep maybe one or two spaces per tile color of tile, along the usual tour route? It's good to keep the ship looking as she did, but it's also key to keeping her in as good of a condition as long as possible
Possible? Yes. But it would look very out of place which isn't our goal.
@@BattleshipNewJersey Have you thought about selling replacement tiles? $10 for a tile that would have the name of a loved one neatly print in small text discretely along an edge and installed in place of a damaged tile? I know of several places that do that with bricks and concrete pavers and end up with some extra money to help their mission.
We have the program with our pier bricks. Tile would likely wear off too quickly.
@@BattleshipNewJersey I didn't know that. How much are the bricks?
He never told us if the bathroom tile was good or bad for the steel.
Since some of the bathrooms are raised above the deck, I would say no for those ones. Other ones, probably yeah.
tattoo, taps in five
Does anyone know why Wisconsin was only BB to get the team replaced- was is shortage of material, cost or just expediency? I had to replace some team rail on my boat and had to buy a 6 in wide 4 ft piece back in the 90s and know what that cost, can’t imagine an entire BB deck, even at 80s prices
Remember the Movie Under Siege? The U.S.S Missouri. Can you do a Video on hollywood VS real?
Hey, has anybody tried dying the new tile to match the old colored tile? I would think that new tile that was striped of wax and cleaned well would take clothes dye, the kind from the grocery store(Rite might be the name I remember).
Love your vids!! Thanks Ryan. How about one about paint........LOL....No seriously.
Its on our list for the future!
Hey Ryan! Another great episode. I've seen WW II berthing on MISSOURI that had red tile. Would that be the Marine berthing spaces?
Teak is also no easy to burn from war damage.
I took a blow torch to it last year and it didn't light
Hi Ryan can you tell me did US ships ,have ships cat or dogs that where kept on board like the royal navy
There were many dogs on board over the years, and some ships did cats too. Its usually not an official thing but something the officers allow.
@@BattleshipNewJersey thank you maybe a vid! one day
Coated in BB = Black Beauty
Has the massive increase in the cost of lumber impacted the deck replacement project?