The mirror getting replaced overnight was interesting to me, because it kind of implies an awareness among the staff about everything that goes on in the house. They quietly fix it but never bring it up or question it, the same way they clean up after the family so they never have to deal with anything. It makes me wonder how much they know, and just say "not my business" while Oliver is scheming his way in.
That's what I was thinking. They're always around 24/7 but never do more than their job, so they easily fade into the background. Even Oliver doesn't think about them, since they are likely to be witnesses. I think it shows the power dynamics and loyalty among the different classes. The staff are just loyal to their jobs, not their employers while the upper middle class to wealthy people don't even see them as people who have a voice to affect their lives despite knowing everything.
The two Black footman did talk to Farleigh though. Granted Farleigh’s room was probably on the same floor as the staff. It was much less grand than Felix’s suite of rooms but had the same views. Really wanted to know what happened to Duncan too.
@@Erin66722 that's possible, but everything that's shown seems to be pretty accurate, considering it shows all of the super embarrassing moments for him. What he's saying out loud in the narration doesn't match what's happening though "I was honest with him, I protected him." Which I took to mean what's happening is real.
@@pNo415 yeah Farleigh was never fully considered on the level of the rest of the family, which was probably why he saw through Oliver so easy and was the hardest to manipulate.
The dancing scene is incredible and iconic for a bunch of reasons, but I was really taken by the fact that it was a statement of ownership. You don't prance around naked in a home you don't own. I don't think it would have hit the same with clothes on. It would have still been his victory dance, but it would have felt different. And I was SHOOK by all the rocks lined up.
Also they are lined up on top of the canton theater which is a family that when buttons are pushed they “dance” or perform which is so symbolic of what he caused that family to do for his amusement and greed . He pushes them and plays them for his amusement
Exactly. That was why the nudity in that scene was so incredibly important. Very brave of Barry. I am really happy that full frontal male nudity in movies isn’t vilified anymore. The actor says he was fine with the nudity, but he never dances and was nervous about the dancing. He tried to convince the director out of the dancing part. 🤣 “It could just be a walk through the house.” “No.”
I agree... but this scene really bothered me tbh. It made Ollie seem aspirational. I didn't like him the entire movie until I saw the last scene. I caught myself after the movie ended and realized the message that sends... it's like glorifying murder of a family and it feels very "glamorizing the school shooter" to me. The ending reads as "somewhat autistic kid correctly assumes that Western classist culture is bloody and psychopathic and aspirational." "You too can dance alone naked in a mansion and it was totally worth it to kill an entire family." Not only is that creepy af but to me it makes me lose some respect for the director because she had a great opportunity to dig deep and she kept the whole thing very surface
I think the way they died was a parallel to earlier scenes. How he drank Felix's bath water and Felix drank something that killed him. The bloodiness of the sister's death and the sex scene. Probably even the mom's death bc he probably had to speak to her the most to manipulate her into giving him the estate and he ripped the breathing tube out of her throat
Another parallel and foreshadowing I've just noticed too is that in the lunch scene where Felix is being wheeled past the window we see Venetia drinking red wine and spilling it all over herself like blood (like in the sex scene and her death) and Elsbeth chocking and nearly vomiting (like she was when the breathing tube was ripped out). So we see glimpses of their deaths while focusing on Felix's.
Thank you I came here for this comment cause I didn't see anyone saying it. The blood with Venetia was what made it click for me. I find it interesting the father seemed to be the only one he didn't plan for and go after. But then that makes me think that's for a reason some how too...
the moms death could mb also be a symbol on how she "needed" oliver after the death of her children and reaaally wanted to keep him for as long long as possible after - she needed him to breath, and he could give her that, but also take it away from her
Another thing about vampires, they cannot come into a house without being invited in. It sort of mirrors Oliver not being able to even be around a their lifestyle in the first place without being let in.
i didn’t consider that, that’s actually genius. your use of the word mirrors here also makes me think about the use of mirrors and Oliver in this movie and how vampires can’t see their own reflections. we always see multiple mirror shots of him, whether it’s through windows, water or bathroom mirrors
Yes and the fact Oliver is always shy or innocent in the day but his true self comes out in every dark scene throughout the film Even in the evening when Oliver is outside with elspeth his dark side starts to reveal
i feel like i tolerated a lot in this movie but the phrase “lucky for you i’m a vampire” was for some reason the FOULEST line i have ever heard in a sex scene in a film
one scene that really stuck out to me was when venitia was talking to oliver and said that she likes him better than last summer‘s boy, implying that felix brings someone with him every summer. it‘s not directly said or implied that he intentionally picks out someone poor and maybe he doesn‘t but that‘s what i got from that, especially since the whole family seems to be obsessed with taking in the less fortunate until they get tired of them.
Absolutely, Oliver was just another one of Felix’s poor toys for the summer. Honestly-I would go as far as to say that Felix left his door open at certain points so that Oliver could peep him doing sexual things. Felix was messing with him. However, this time Felix chose the wrong person and was destroyed completely.
@@sabrina3138idk if i’m dumb but i saw felix as being a pretty genueine and kind person. Not all the time like the racism scene with farleigh but like sometimes.
I think that the catton family just likes to take in the poor until they’re tired so that they can humblebrag about their life and status and pretend they’re doing a good thing when in reality, they’re doing nothing at all.
@@nitebreakyeah, i feel that is more likely that felix is "betrayed" by his friends due to his postition than him purposefully chasing poor boys and dumping them when he wants to. At one point he mentions that one of his friends fel in love with venitia
I think the maths boy saying that he'll get bored of oliver hinted at the fact that felix is known to pick out a person even by people that dont know him too well and oliver even knew, he never bats an eye when someone tells him felix will get bored as his plan is to create a story he wont get bored of
A detail I loved was that when Felix died, Ollie was not included in the stone-throwing tradition, he was watching from far away. He was not a part of the grieving family, but once their cousin is gone, and their daughter dies, he suddenly stands with them as if he's a part. It's SUCH a good way of showing how much he weasled his way into their mum's brain and into their family as a whole.
the cut to oliver reading about palissy after telling sir james he had admired palissy's work for years, implying that oliver had done research for that convo to impress sir james had me gagged
@@tiaslays255i'm ngl i never thought i'd actually watch saltburn so i read the insanely detailed plot summary on wikipedia long before watching and knew he was faking the whole time but i feel like that scene was to introduce the viewer to the idea that oliver would lie about harmless things to get closer to the family OR ostracize farleigh before it's revealed that he lies about huge things yk
Side note; I don't know whether this was intentional symbolism by the film makers, but it is interesting that they chose Palissy to illustrate Oliver's manipulative nature because Palissy frequently incorporated 🐍snakes🐍 into his ceramics
@@tiaslays255 Oliver wanted to get ins with them. Oliver was also prepared to lie, and then obviously kill to get what he wanted. And the earlier lying sort of drip feeds us the eventual big ending.
Ok but the bathtub scene would just be a bit cringe except for the TONGUE on the drain. I can't stop imagining the usual hair/soap scum sludge in most drains and that's what horrified/nauseated me.
I’m so embarrassed that I felt really happy for Oli when I was watching the montage of him and Felix becoming friends. I literally said to my partner ‘isn’t it so cool that quiet, shy and unassuming people all have a fun and quirky side to them and sometimes they just need the confidence of a friend to bring it out.’ Then we just gradually watch him become absolutely unhinged.
I also would like to point out that Farleigh is wearing the donkey head as a nod to Nick Bottom (the ass of the play) in A Mid Summer's Night Dream. Nick Bottom is the only character that interacts with both the fairies and humans, which in this case could be seen as having a foot in both the world of the rich and the poor. There's a lot more symbolism between the characters and MSND but I especially love Farleigh's.
I think part of farleigh seeing through Oliver includes the study sessions and "thus" criticism. He had him pegged for a fake intellectual immediately. Someone who knows how to write is not using the word "thus" 7 times. That's something 10th graders do to try to sound smarter.
@@Oogabooga814 hmmm his parents said he’s a genius and I kind of believe them. But maybe he’s not as “deep” and “intellectual” and into literature as we think. It was another “in”
I liked that at the end when Oliver was drunk crying to Felix in the maze that Felix looked really terrified of Oliver and I havent seen that in movies where a man is stalked and really afraid of a man like women usually are!?!?
@@lunaoliveira7965the thing is stalking, no matter who does it, is terrifying to the victim, no matter how big they are. It’s a psychological mind f***.
THAT>>>>>> I think that's why the scene felt especially eerie to me, because like u said we never see a man terrified like that in movies, it's usually women who are. Especially a man that big in all senses saying his blood runs cold over Oliver... Brrrrr that was so fucking scary.
@@theahapa i had a feeling it was because of how invasive he was compared to the previous Felix's projects, and everyone living in that house is either too rich or too poor to care to move their class standing, only felix the secret middle class dressed like a poor person is constantly worrying about where he stand how to move in on the family acting like both and neither, always apologizing but also entitling himself to everything, it gave everyone the ick, like a snake in the grass, especially at Saltburn where that line is never meant to be crossed.
It’s more directly tied to him being Puck from the party theme midsummer night’s dream. Puck is portrayed with antlers/small horns. I do think that the choice of it being dainty antlers does correlate with your idea tho since she could’ve chosen the goat-like horns instead.
It’s interesting that I don’t think he even needed the money. His parents seemed to be well off as they had a nice house and were talking about their vacations. He also had money in his wallet at the bar. It makes him appear even more sinister.
He lived well but nothing close to Felix. Just comparing their houses, while Oliver looks like he is upper middle class, Felix lived in a whole damn castle, he is rich rich! It wasn’t only the money, Oliver fell in love with the lifestyle.
I think that he also needed a special place in society because throughout his life in Oxford and his holidays with this family he heard «this life is not for you», «you are not like us». Maybe because of all this disregard he felt that he needed to change his social status.
I saw a breakdown talking about the obsession of the rich in late stage capitalism and how you can have enough but always want more it’s not enough for people to be able to afford nice things they want all of the best things. It’s the obsession with more and more and more
a lot of people think oliver was genuinely in love with felix and i didn’t get that at all. i looked at oliver as an all-consumer, especially once venetia describes him as a moth and we learn of his status. he wanted to own and consume felix and his life
I agree, to be in love with someone, in my opinion, you'd at least have good intentions. Oliver was selfish and lied with bad intentions from day one. He even said himself he's a vampire, he didn't care about Felix or anyone, just wanted their life.
@@Victoria_Fama to me that was because he knew felix wouldnt want him after finding out about his lies, so he knew they only way to "gain him" was by killing him, which then he could finally do it
Yeahh i think his “love” was more of an obsession. He was inlove with Felixes life.Oliver wanted to be him. Thats why he says”Yeah i loved him but was i inlove with him”. The meaning is really different
Yes!! Thinking back it makes so much sense. At first I thought it was ironic, like well, he seemed to be a horrible father so he doesn't even deserve the stone landing on water.
soooo much foreshadowing in this movie- - the song from the beginning of the movie changing the lyrics to ‘olivier quick long live the king’ instead of the original lyrics - felix’s doppelgänger passing the window when they were talking about the doppelgänger thingy- foreshadows his death as seeing someone’s doppelgänger results in rhat persons death - venetia over pouring her glass of wine- mirroring how she dies (in a bath of overflowing blood water) - elspeth choking/gagging on her food- which is how she died, choking on air to death when ollie pulled the tube out it’s INSANE!
My personal favourite suspicion I had after watching it twice is that Oliver was trying to steal Felix’s condom in the scene where he insists on cleaning up Felix’s room. He watched him have sex the previous night, is staring intently at him shirtless in that scene and obviously we all know what happened in the bathtub. He’s side glancing at that bin the whole time and starts hurriedly trying to take it from the room, before Felix stops him in a panic. I really think this was just Oliver starting early (or trying to). He then tells Felix how he grew up in mess and filth later as a way to justify his insistence on taking the bin earlier.
Interesting observation - I thought the 'must tidy your roon, take charge of your life' thing out of character abd Fr Felix obviously thinks so too. But getting that wet condoum makes complete sense, given how he slumps on the plughole later.
i think it's interesting how the "gross scenes" are all about oliver interacting with substances related to life or death (consuming or fucking lol), which i read as oliver trying to insert himself into the family bloodline and therefore the status that can only come with birthright
I love this take as even though it’s so obvious (his self-insert), I never thought to associate the substances with the connotation of life/death and the bloodline. Very big brain of you (Edited for clarity)
Nah nah nah, I’VE read so much fanfiction but this was truly vile, unhinged and depraved lol. I will say though, the vampire scene isn’t so bad bc he is not alone. It’s him and Venetia both participating and enjoying each other. The bath tub scene was revolting for me bc I’m a germophobe lol. The grave scene… THIS DAMN SCENE omfg no words. Beautiful, haunting, tragic, morally reprehensible, and unfathomable. Yet, it all fit so well.
@@ChiliCrisp88 i too have read a lot of fan fiction (dead dove do not eat 😰😰😰) in my time and this movie was not as disgusting as some people make it to be (maybe it’s because i’m deep into the horror/psychological/thriller genre) but i do believe some scenes were disturbing to viewers who weren’t expecting them. the movie was beautiful haunting and tragic and was a masterpiece, i hope to see more of the genre :) hopefully i don’t sound rude, just putting my thoughts out there
@@iiushiya2817 in no point of your comment are you being rude ily💗💗 I guess I completely forgot about dead dove do not eat fics bc I don’t often come across them, but also I’m too weak to read them😣
the coolest bit is when venetia is telling the story about the doppelgänger. felix walks past the window behind her and the camera pans to show he's at the table next to her. such a good foreshadowing easter egg
i was thinking it was so weird someone was walking past the window in this scene/jarring. i didn't realize it was connected to venetia's story, i just thought it was a poorly placed extra because of how much it stood out in a movie
I think Oliver playing with the maze toy is him memorising it, as he knows how to find Felix and India when he loses them, and also when they find Felix's body the next day you can see a few people going the longer way and one person going the 'cheat' way - pretty sure its Oliver going the cheat way bc he gets there the same time as the rest of the family even though he was in the house when they heard Elspeth... but thats just my theory 🤔
I think also what Nicole said about them having the maze created with an easy way and a harder one and Felix obviously knowing the easy one bc he brings the girl there, represents his ease in life generally, and Oliver following Felix is him kinda leeching off. So even if he studied the maze it didn’t matter, bc just following Felix and getting everything through him (relates to the end of the story too) would bring him to the same center of the maze. Idk I noticed loads of details like that where small acts performed by Ollie in a calculated, yet also uncalculated way related to the bigger plot of his ascension in Saltburn. Like he didn’t have to do all that, but he still did it
Hoping I can share some more insight as a brit - I think it's important Americans understand fully what we call the "North/South divide". Stereotypically, northerners think of southerners as stuck up and rich, and southerners think of northerners as common and poor, and this "divide" has been going on for timeeeeeee. Felix and the Saltburners are all of course southern, and Oliver is Liverpudlian (northern) - a clear choice here, as the actor is Irish, so he could have done annnnnnnnny regional english accent. Oliver played on these stereotypes with his "poverty" and "family issues" and the southeners lapped that up. I'm northern myself, and we are widely underrepresented on television and within the government, and most media of this type would have MOST people rooting for the northerner, the underdog, and showing how toxic the rich can be (whiiiiich was done to a certain extent). "look how these posh rich people manipulate this naive northerner". Saltburn really flipped this on its head, whilst being seemingly self-aware of what it was doing. No doubt in my mind Emerald used the north/south divide as another unexpected twist and to manipulate the audience to truly expect what they weren't expecting. Knowing the film was wild going into it but having no context, I ABSOLUTELY believed I would be siding with the Northerner. Just another nod to british culture in my opinion. There's also something to be said about the treatment of working-class (northern especially) people at one of the "big three" universities (oxford, cambridge, durham) and how there is said to be "who can take the poorest person home" etc. initiation games amongst the affluent societies, but that's a story for another day haha.
It’s more south east vs the rest of England, the West Country gets very little representation despite that being the south of England. Also the scouse accent is the closest English accent to Irish so that is also a justification for being from Liverpool. Nowadays Cambridge and Oxford aren’t particularly nor snobby than other universities like Bristol, Warwick, Edinburgh, etc. nowadays the push for Oxford and Cambridge to have less private school students causes more to go to these other highly ranked universities
I'm from Merseyside so automatically was on ollie's side. Kinda felt like he let the team down 😅 although I can't pretend like I don't love watching a scouser tear down the rich stately family
are there actually families like this? I feel like they're so commonly portrayed in American media lol. like uber rich with giant estates like that. it can't be that common? lol
I feel like the blood scene with Venetia was disturbing because of Oliver using her eating to get her to sleep with him. It was one of the creepiest scenes I’ve ever seen because I just couldn’t imagine someone using a mental health disorder (privileged information told to him by Venetia’s mother) to get with her.
the worst part (and by that i actually mean best) was that if you have no context, it sets it up for about half the movie like a romance, so that by the time you’ve realized you’ve made a mistake you’re too invested to turn it off, and the least you can do for yourself for enduring all the discomfort you’ve already experienced is to see what happens at the end. this is exactly what happened with me 😭
Yeah I had no idea what the movie was about. I saw Trin posted a video about it and a few beautiful shots of Jacob Elordi and I thought it was like a coming of age/gay love story or something. I was...... thrown off to say the least.
That is it, i’m glad there were several of us that experienced it this way bc all i knew was Jacob Elordi was in it and when it began I was like “Oh a cute little gay movie” and IT WAS NOT but i had already gone too far into it to NOT SEE IT THROUGH bc i had NO IDEA where it was going
Quick correction! He asked for his eggs over easy which means you’re supposed to flip the egg over so it’s cooked on both sides, and they served him undercooked sunny side up eggs which is when you don’t flip the egg and leave the top a bit runny, so he ordered correctly
@@starsong124oop, not really. Eggs over easy are sunny side eggs flipped over with a semi cooked yolk. So not as runny as what he got. The main subtext here is the standing lore that the English posh like raw yolks because it's fancier. And no one, not even the butler, understood why he asked for them, and when he was given what would be the "right way" to eat eggs, he refused to sit meekly like he would've a few scenes ago. Which could be him starting to impede on Saltburn as a resident and not a guest 👀
I think that Oliver purposely kissed Venetia when she was in the bath so that she would hate herself even more for being attracted to him. He then planted the razor blades on the side of the bath so that she would go through the idea of killing herself and eventually do it.
there’s also a cup next to her which i could be wrong, but i don’t remember seeing before, and Oliver had mentioned her drinking water. i wouldn’t put it past him to have given her the same thing he gave Felix, then went back in when she was gone and staged her killing herself. also, the blood on the floor could easily be explained by Venetia herself moving at all (or regretting if she did do it) and the floors in a house that old are notoriously unleveled, so i wouldn’t be surprised if the water could’ve just ran like that
My interpretation of the breakfast scene with runny eggs was Oliver showing the butler that he has power to order him around. He ordered eggs, the only thing that had to be made specifically for him and than immediately sending it back to make the butler do more work for him. Obviously he was acting nice and apologetic about it, but in the essence I feel like he knew exactly what he was doing.
I think the scene with Oliver's parents where they talk about how he never had friends and wished he was an only child hints that he's always been a sociopath. Also the theme of the party is A Midsummer Night's Dream. Farleigh is Bottom. The character who gets turned into a donkey for acting like...well a donkey. Fits Farleigh perfectly. Oliver is Puck, the mischievous sprite. And I believe Felix is Titania, the beautiful fairy queen who is loved and adored by all but also falls privy to Puck's tricks. Also my mother noticed the teddy bear on Felix's coffin and believes this a nod to Brideshead Revisited. Which is a story about a boy who is invited to his friend's manor where there is an unrequited homosexual love story (though its the rich boy in the novel) and has the friend fall for the sister which makes the rich boy jealous.
Puck and Bottom are also two characters that interact with both humans and fairies. Bottom is a human that enters the fairy world and Puck enters the human world to play tricks on them
I had to pause this movie multiple times not because it was disturbing, but because the secondhand embarrassment was too much for me. Like the breakfast scene made me so uncomfortable because of that. Also I feel like this is what Sam Levinson and The Weekend wished the Idol could be, but they could never
I watched it with my boyfriend and he kept saying how the sex stuff wasn’t necessary and I was like the bathtub and “vampire” scenes are crucial to understanding Oliver as a character without him just saying it.
I saw saltburn on thanksgiving knowing nothing about it. me and the other 7 people in the theatre were audibly gasping throughout. i've been needing to unpack the experience, so thank you.
I watched it on Christmas on my ipad while my family was cooking behind me lol. After the bathtub scene I had to turn and sit in a way that they couldn't see my screen😂
When it comes to second hand embarrassment I totally get you. I will literally stop reading a book or watching a show if it has too intense second hand embarrassment. Sexual or “gross” scenes still make me uncomfortable, but second hand embarrassment makes me SO viscerally uncomfortable I just can’t bear it.
Also something of note is that when they look for Felix's body, Oliver takes the easy maze route and Venitia and Farleigh take the harder route. Which is incredibly long btw if you go back and look at the top shot of the maze.
I love how Felix is the literal representation of a child/teenager. With his innocent posture of sitting and posing in a vulnerable way and the many scenes in which he’s eating a lollipop shows his childlike nature and pureness. And also his quick pecks and kisses of affection are similar to that of toddlers showing their love, and the multiple references to “ toys” and how “ he doesn’t like to share his toys”. As we know Felix comes from an extremely wealthy family and has always been the centre of attention due to his charm, confidence, and charismatic personality. However, he’s been too well protected by his family, namely his parents who always sweep “ bad things” under the rug, like when addressing his death or kicking guest out. In a way, his parents have protected him too well from reality always keeping him in this bubble of delusion and how the world is a good place filled with good people by blocking out the bad. In a way his trustfulness in Ollie was a major cause of his death, and Oliver knew that so he took advantage of his weakness of purity and innocence ultimately succeeding in murdering him.
Just a quick correction: Oliver orders ‘Over easy’ eggs but is given ‘Sunny side up’ which is why he complains. Very clear Duncan does NOT like him lol
That was an odd one because that’s an American thing, nobody uses that in the U.K. would just be fried and potentially runny / not runny. We don’t really have the over easy / sunny side up thing here.
the metaphor for ollie's dominance played out through sex and sexual despotism IS SO SO SO GOOD literally my favourite type of movies are the male rage ones through the female gaze (emerald fennell is a genius idc)
it’s lowkey a mix between The Talented Mr. Ripely (the obsession with someone w more wealth) and The Secret History, (trying to fit in with the rich kids)
@@analu_reidthe secret history !!! throughout the video, realizing oliver was such a chameleon reminded me of richard, the way they so despratley want to be a part of a certain grouo, or in this case take over
Okay a few things I haven’t seen anyone talk about in the comments that I found cool when researching theories and thought were so cool and wanted to share Pamala’s “suicide”- earlier in the film at dinner Pamala is telling Oliver how she had this Russian boyfriend and how everything was great until his business partners started falling out of tall buildings (implying staged suicides). She was staying with the Cattons to hide out from him. So when they kick her out and she dies by what looks like suicide--the film is subtly implying that she was killed by the boyfriend she was hiding from because the Cattons kicked her out. Which, I think this is so important in the context of how the Cattons bring in people they feel bad for to make them feel good about themselves but eventually listening to their sob stories and living with them gets boring and annoying to them because they dont actually care about them so they are on to their next pity project. And the Cattons lack of empathy or ability to even connect the dots that she was murdered BY THE MAN SHE WAS THERE TO HIDE OUT FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE. It really just emphasizes how arrogant and ignorant they are to other people's real world problems. Which, even to their own problems, the parents ignore them and sweep everything under the rug and dont talk about it--Venetia and Felix make it clear that they are used to this and this is how they were raised. Sir James even shuts his eyes and covers his ears when Felix's body is being wheeled by the window. This kind of foreshadows his death, him shutting the world out, if you will. While on the topic of foreshadowing... In the lunch scene when Felix's body is being wheeled by the window, we see Venetia overflowing her glass with red wind and drinking it and spilling it all over herself--this DEFINITELY foreshadows her death. At the same moment, right when Felix's body is being wheeled by (Nicole even included the exact clip in the video)--we see Elspeth gagging or choking on her food, This is also foreshadowing Elspeth's death. ALSO Oliver completes every family members base needs here is another theory from Screen Rant I am just going to copy and paste because it is complicated and good and long but it is SO GOOD "Upon arriving at the Saltburn estate, the four characters Oliver mingles with the most are Felix, Farleigh, Venetia, and Elspeth, and a theory suggests that he completes a "base need" for each of them. For Felix, Oliver presents the idea of someone he can care for, fulfilling his savior complex. Farleigh is the lowest on the totem pole at the estate, and Oliver gives him someone he can pick on. Venetia suffers from an eating disorder, and the blood scene demonstrates Oliver providing her with complete bodily acceptance. Elspeth is essentially seeking a "yes man," which Oliver quickly becomes for her. These angles suggest Oliver's detailed manipulation tactics." if yall are interested in more theories check out this article and more on screen rant (not an ad by any means) they have a lot of cool ones on Saltburn!! screenrant.com/saltburn-movie-theories-change-story/#the-saltburn-estate-demands-blood-sacrifices
something i just noticed about the body scene because of your comment, they’re all bathed in red lighting because of the curtains, and i initially saw this as them bathed in death (of Felix). but now after finishing the movie i realize it was foreshadowing for all of their deaths, as only Farleigh leaves, avoiding his own death. the 3 of them also somewhat fall into the “hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil” with the father covering his ears, the mother choking, and the sister not seeing that she’s over pouring her glass! lots of cool stuff in that one scene
@@bailorallen6845 omggg that's my most disorganized playlist of all time lmaooo i never thought someone would see that besides me 🙈🙈🙈glad you liked it! i can give you some recs if you want!
I literally just stopped watching the movie and then opened youtube and this was my first thing to pop up. Thank you Nikki nasty for feeding my confusion on this movie
As a former English Literature (& Language) student I loved this film. So many references to Greek mythology and popular culture. Minotaurs in Greek mythology demand a sacrifice and Oliver poisoned the bottle ultimately sacrificing him. Venetia dying in a bathtub is ironic because her name likely originates from Venice in Italy, which is built over water....Her character also reminds me of Ophelia in Shakespeare's Hamlet where she also died in water after being spurred by Prince Hamlet.
Venetia could be a reference to the book Venetia by Georgette Heyer. There are overlayering similarities with events in the book to aspects of Saltburn. It feels far too much of a coincidence, there’s even a lie about family member being dead when they aren’t actually dead. Venetia in the book is a rich privileged and sheltered woman too. And more. I recommend checking that out if you haven’t.
Can we also talk about how in the end scene he took the box with the Catton Players on it, where they're displayed as puppets and he moved it to the grand room, set in the middle and took their rocks OUT OF THE WATER setting them on top of each respective family's doll??? As if he was the puppet master the whole time! I can't this movie...
I loved this scene because what hit me the hardest from it was that he had to actually go IN the water, and retrieve those stones every damn time. And watching it back, whenever they throw another stone in, you see that there's no other stones from the previous funerals there. The dedication to collecting the stones alone is crazy.
i just wanna say, i think jacob elordi was REALLY good in this film! like i cant imagine his role being anyone else. idk if its just me, he just has this face that makes you WANT to see the good in his characters? maybe its his eyes idek but also the body language was REALLY good. like the way he moved and emoted in this film was just SOOOOOO good, genuinely made me a fan of him
Solidarity. Years ago, my Spanish teacher assigned an extra credit option to watch & write a summary for _Y tu mamá también_ (2001). It was in theaters & R-rated, meaning I accepted my dad's offer to go with me. The only thing we knew was that it would be entirely in Spanish. Have you seen that film? Do you know the sort of scene it opens on? I am confident you, your mother & your aunt will face one another* again, this just... might be something never brought up again.
i need to see more people talking about duncan an the servants at saltburn!!! there's no way they weren't catching on to ollie's shit. duncan's character description on prime literally says "duncan is saltburn". he is "all-seeing". he knew everything.
if you liked saltburn and haven’t seen The Talented Mr Ripley PLS WATCH IT. I feel like saltburn was heavily inspired by it and is imo the more intricate and subtle but equally shocking film
THIS. the 2 films r so similar and both r very interesting and intricate (and they both have weirdly queer bg themes lol) personally i prefer the talented mr ripley:]
Yes! They have actually mentioned it takes themes heavily from brideshead revisited and ttmr. So there’s the Waugh line and the car ride before he gets where Felix is taking him that mirrors the sailboat scene in Ripley . So make a day of it 😊
Barry Keoghan is so underrated!! Im so glad he's getting the recognition he deserves especially bc this was such an odd character it's very impressive to me how well he played Oliver. Ive been obsessed since Dunkirk lol
The way that it is foreshadowed that Oliver was lying about his life, when he projected and also manipulated the mom that their guest Pamela was lying about her stories and suffers. In one scene Pamela speaks about how her russian bf's bussiness partners were being thrown out of windows, and that is what made her go in hiding, which according to Oliver's statement about her stories, this was all,allegedly a lie, and then later on in some point through the movie we hear that she is dead.(probably k1lled bu her bf), which proves that she was indeed telling the truth, the only one lying here was Oliver.
The movie was actually one of the weirdest that I watched but I think that it perfectly displayed Ollie’s obsession, the switch up into seeing his descent into madness was soo good, the reveal of his lie, the audience reaction omg it was so good
I think the butler also knew all along that he was doing something too. Like what other reason would he have to be so observant of him and looking at him like he knew all of his secrets. But he couldnt do anything in his position!
I feel like all the ppl that weren't born into generational wealth could see he has bad/selfish intentions bc they could notice all the quirks that signaled to him getting too comfortable too quickly (and the butler esp is probably used to seeing ppl show up to use the family for their money and stuff) Michael, Farley and the butler all have seen the habits of ppl who have actually struggled and then here comes Oliver who requests a full English breakfast after only being in the house for maybe 12 hours or something.
I wondered if the butler would have stayed on when Oliver inherits Saltburn. The butler might resent Oliver and seemed disdainful, and it seems like Oliver would get rid of him. It’s sad though, because the butler seemed invested in the legacy of Saltburn, and Emerald Fennel said he was supposed to be like “one of the bricks of Saltburn”
I was hoping the butler would have been wating just behind the last doorway while Oliver was dancing and prancing through the house, and as soon as he stepped through WHACK axed.
Duncan was as much a piece of Saltburn as the walls themselves, and walls don't speak. He knew Oliver was no good, but didn't say a word, not even to the police. His loyalty was to the place, not the people.
You can also see Oliver taking the literal cheat's route in the actual maze when they're all looking for Felix. It's a cenital shot of the family going in and he's not following them, he's getting to Felix first
If you look back when they’re running towards Felix’s body near the minotaur, you would see that the Catton family were going through the difficult route, whereas Felix through the short route.
One thing I noticed during the first watch was the foreshadowing (in retrospect, of course) of Venicia's death taking place in the bath and from bleeding, and how the lighting during the "vampire" scene made her sheer nightgown almost look transparent like water - bathtub parallels. Then, on top of that, the fact that Ollie's first and last interactions with Felix involve him watching Felix have sex, and them drinking together. I also enjoyed how for Ollie's birthday, when they're all together for the last time, Felix's father wears his suit of armour, which could be symbolic of how his family, despite everything, are the thing he holds as most valuable, and keeps him protected, and then the very next scene, he loses his armour, and his son simultaneously.
Just watched this tonight and im from the North of England and I couldve screamed with how accurate the feeling of being poor and thrusted into a wealthy family dynamic was like, I dated a guy for about a year who had MONEY like family bought a flat in London next to the arts uni, big estate in Kent and paid 2 kids rent with private school backgrounds money. I understand it was a facade for Oliver but the scenes were filmed so perfectly I loved it, so uncomfortable 😂
I was surprised that you didn't mention the reference to the Greek myth about the Labyrinth and the Minotaur and how it's a commentary on the absurdity of the rich.
Oliver was 100% in love with Felix. We all know this, right? I think once he realized Felix was never going to return his love, after finding out Ollie lied about his parents, he changed his plans to take Saltburn and win Felix to just taking Saltburn. There’s far too many things he did, both before and after Felix’s death, that imply his feelings were true.
I don't think it was love. I don't think it was EVER love, but Oliver is a sociopath, and I think he thought his feelings were love It was envy, I think, because he wanted to be Felix
@@manicpepsicola3431 Obsession and a desperate need to be him, and I think he thought he wanted to be with him because of that but what he always wanted was to BE Felix
I agree. i think Oliver loved him too. Or at least the closest that Oliver could come to feeling love because of him being a sociopath or whatever personality disorder he had. At least that angle is more interesting to me than that he wants to be Felix just because i think that trope is a little overplayed especially with like queer stories idk. (i feel like every story where there is like homo pining and then its like "psych actually she was just jealous" its kinda like come on homephiles have other emotional complexes other than obsession driven by envy). It seems more likely that Oliver actually wanted to be with Felix but settled for having Saltburn especially because of the many times in the movie where we can see Felix from Olivers point of view and its clear like how much he romanticises him. Especially the scene where Felix is giving him a tour of Saltburn and Oliver is not even looking around in the different rooms he is only looking at Felix. Its all very romanctic. I think that scene makes it clear that at least at that point in time Oliver wants Felix way more than he wants to manipulate his way into having Saltburn for himself. I think Oliver is at least very infatuated with Felix. (also im not trying to be rude to ppl who like the theory that Oliver wanted to be Felix. it might be a little bit of both
@@annikagylling3685 I agree. Also why are people so obsessed with "is is TRUE love???". I feel like what a lot of movies show us is just people having the most brutal crush ever. Because they don't even really know the love interest yet. Sometimes it's tunring into something sinister like Saltburn or it stays romantic like Call Me By Your Name. But neither of those movies were about actual love, at least not how I define it. And that is okay because love is boring, in the best way possible (steady, comforting) but it is.
Stupidly tiny detail but Oliver asked for over easy eggs and received sunny side up eggs. They are both technically runny but all of the white part is cooked in over easy eggs and only the yolk is runny. I love over easy eggs and wouldn’t touch sunny side up so that scene made sense to me
literally finished the film 14 hours ago... IT WAS AN EXPIRIENCE, never have i ever thought "he's not gonna do that" and then look at him doing exactly the thing SO MANY TIMES; big thanks for the video nicole
Favorite movie of the year! Such a great modern gothic tale! In traditional gothic stories, specifically gothic romances, it is the story of a young innocent character who is brought to a mansion/castle by a dark mysterious character where the innocent character discovers sinister secrets and dark tragic things happen. I love that in this gothic story it is the "innocent" one that brings the chaos and tragedy to the gothic mansion.
Exactly!! The cinematography was beautiful, the performances were amazing, the plot was interesting... who cares if it wasn't ground breaking... LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS
Any other the secret history girly also noticed the parallel between Oliver and Felix and Richard and Henry? The unreliable narrator, making up a false background story, the romanticizing of Felix's problematic behavior, the constant need Oliver has to just be a part of all their lives at all costs- i didn't even watch the movie and it is truly insane on how many levels you can interpret this
YES OMG, ABSOLUTELY! i’ve been telling everyone this, the obsession that richard had with trying to fit in with the rich kids and the obsession w Henry aka Felix is so literally the movie
i have been obsessed with saltburn for weeks and this is by far the best take i've seen on it i agreed with everything that was said and OMFG THE FELIX DOPPELGANGER BLEW MY MIND
This is the best review of this movie I have seen so far. The tongs, the pictures, the cats, sister wives, the Empire State Building - hilarious! This is basically a film about watching a sociopath go to "work", and now that he has the Saltburn estate, he is just going to keep doing what he is doing - finding more rich victims to play with and possibly dispatch once he gets tired of them or they do something he doesn't like.
at the beginning of the movie, oliver also mentions Evenlyn Waugh. his most famous work, Brideshead Revisited, is basically the blueprint for this ENTIRE movie
What's crazy is that if Oliver was honest about his family he still would have been in Felix's life just because of the bike and bar scenes. Felix genuinely liked him and wanted him around.
Farleigh is so freaking cute. The scene at the end where Oliver is writing the email is everything to me, the way Farleigh is sleeping is perfect, he’s my beautiful angelic girly pop.
@@lynax6980 we didn’t know what the movie was about and my mom is in love with Jacob elordi so we started watching it and apparently they finished the movie
It's okay dwdw when call me by your name with that actor who shall not be named and timothee chalamet, I was like 14, I just wanted to see a happy gay movie and so I watched it with my mom. Our relationship was irreparably changed from that day on
I litterally thought i was the only one who saw felix in the doppelgänger scene. no other review mentioned this, which made it so much freakier. it freaked me out so bad that i had to turn it off. this movie is golden.
ME TOO, i didn't really connect the dots, but, as she was talking I went why tf is felix outside?? but since no one talked about it i brushed it off as a coincidence (which it clearly couldn't be)
i 100% agree with where you said Oliver wanted Felix so much he wantd to become him, Oliver was completely obsessed with Felix to a very unimaginable level that when Felix figures out his lies and ultimately rejects Oliver in Oliver's mind, he couldn't bare not being able to be with/close with Felix. Oliver would rather have Felix killed than living with Felix simply hating him . and i truly belive that Oliver did regret killing Felix, so he wanted to take over everything Felix was, everything that remained a sense of Felix's existence
I love and despise the bathtub scene in equal measure. from a cinematography and storytelling standpoint, it's delicious. raw, visceral, uncomfortable, a perfect portrayal of Ollie's growing obsession for Felix. absolutely brilliant. I also never want to see it again, thank you.
Upon first watch I genuinely saw Oliver as quite relatable up until his birthday and then I was like “woah ok maybe not that much” and it really is amazing how I was fooled into the same farce as the characters it was really enjoyable. I love the concept of all consuming love and how much it can be twisted in different ways and saltburn is just so visually stunning as a whole.
watched this movie in a tiny cinema with my gf and when they said "she would do anything for attention" i actually gasped so loudly like 3 people turned to look at me, my jaw was on the floooooor
saltburn is really just a movie about how men will literally do ANYTHING but go to therapy
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And the fanbase is the women who thirst for them. Prove me wrong.
can we also talk about how when Oliver threw his dad's rock it didn't land in the water because his dad wasn't actually dead
Omg! I was wondering why they did that, I supposed it was bc he “was a drunk”
Ooo yeah. The foreshadowing was so good.
Got that one the second watch.
omg the foreshadowing throughout this movie was insane
when they pulled up to the house and the extend of oliver‘s con slowly dawned on me, that is exactly what i thought.
The mirror getting replaced overnight was interesting to me, because it kind of implies an awareness among the staff about everything that goes on in the house. They quietly fix it but never bring it up or question it, the same way they clean up after the family so they never have to deal with anything. It makes me wonder how much they know, and just say "not my business" while Oliver is scheming his way in.
That's what I was thinking. They're always around 24/7 but never do more than their job, so they easily fade into the background. Even Oliver doesn't think about them, since they are likely to be witnesses. I think it shows the power dynamics and loyalty among the different classes. The staff are just loyal to their jobs, not their employers while the upper middle class to wealthy people don't even see them as people who have a voice to affect their lives despite knowing everything.
I more took it never actually happened and Oliver not being a reliable narrater in his own story
The two Black footman did talk to Farleigh though. Granted Farleigh’s room was probably on the same floor as the staff. It was much less grand than Felix’s suite of rooms but had the same views.
Really wanted to know what happened to Duncan too.
@@Erin66722 that's possible, but everything that's shown seems to be pretty accurate, considering it shows all of the super embarrassing moments for him. What he's saying out loud in the narration doesn't match what's happening though "I was honest with him, I protected him." Which I took to mean what's happening is real.
@@pNo415 yeah Farleigh was never fully considered on the level of the rest of the family, which was probably why he saw through Oliver so easy and was the hardest to manipulate.
The dancing scene is incredible and iconic for a bunch of reasons, but I was really taken by the fact that it was a statement of ownership. You don't prance around naked in a home you don't own. I don't think it would have hit the same with clothes on. It would have still been his victory dance, but it would have felt different. And I was SHOOK by all the rocks lined up.
Also they are lined up on top of the canton theater which is a family that when buttons are pushed they “dance” or perform which is so symbolic of what he caused that family to do for his amusement and greed . He pushes them and plays them for his amusement
Exactly. That was why the nudity in that scene was so incredibly important. Very brave of Barry. I am really happy that full frontal male nudity in movies isn’t vilified anymore.
The actor says he was fine with the nudity, but he never dances and was nervous about the dancing. He tried to convince the director out of the dancing part. 🤣 “It could just be a walk through the house.” “No.”
Also both versions of the Cattons are in a box. The actual family is dead and buried and the puppet version are in the little theatre
I agree... but this scene really bothered me tbh. It made Ollie seem aspirational. I didn't like him the entire movie until I saw the last scene. I caught myself after the movie ended and realized the message that sends... it's like glorifying murder of a family and it feels very "glamorizing the school shooter" to me. The ending reads as "somewhat autistic kid correctly assumes that Western classist culture is bloody and psychopathic and aspirational." "You too can dance alone naked in a mansion and it was totally worth it to kill an entire family." Not only is that creepy af but to me it makes me lose some respect for the director because she had a great opportunity to dig deep and she kept the whole thing very surface
the fact that he dove into the water and found james venetia and felix’s rocks and then made elspeth a rock is so sinister
I think the way they died was a parallel to earlier scenes. How he drank Felix's bath water and Felix drank something that killed him. The bloodiness of the sister's death and the sex scene. Probably even the mom's death bc he probably had to speak to her the most to manipulate her into giving him the estate and he ripped the breathing tube out of her throat
Woahhh I would never have noticed this!!!
Another parallel and foreshadowing I've just noticed too is that in the lunch scene where Felix is being wheeled past the window we see Venetia drinking red wine and spilling it all over herself like blood (like in the sex scene and her death) and Elsbeth chocking and nearly vomiting (like she was when the breathing tube was ripped out). So we see glimpses of their deaths while focusing on Felix's.
I feel like the moms death scene was supposed to correlate to Oliver saying he had to put his fingers in his moms throat to make her sick
Thank you I came here for this comment cause I didn't see anyone saying it. The blood with Venetia was what made it click for me. I find it interesting the father seemed to be the only one he didn't plan for and go after. But then that makes me think that's for a reason some how too...
the moms death could mb also be a symbol on how she "needed" oliver after the death of her children and reaaally wanted to keep him for as long long as possible after - she needed him to breath, and he could give her that, but also take it away from her
Another thing about vampires, they cannot come into a house without being invited in. It sort of mirrors Oliver not being able to even be around a their lifestyle in the first place without being let in.
i didn’t consider that, that’s actually genius. your use of the word mirrors here also makes me think about the use of mirrors and Oliver in this movie and how vampires can’t see their own reflections. we always see multiple mirror shots of him, whether it’s through windows, water or bathroom mirrors
Yes and the fact Oliver is always shy or innocent in the day but his true self comes out in every dark scene throughout the film
Even in the evening when Oliver is outside with elspeth his dark side starts to reveal
YOO
Boom
So he wasn't lying about being a vampire holy moly that's a plot twist i didn't suspect 😮
i feel like i tolerated a lot in this movie but the phrase “lucky for you i’m a vampire” was for some reason the FOULEST line i have ever heard in a sex scene in a film
It gave the same cringe feeling of “I wolf you” from You
@@user-ub1tl7db1nomg literallyy😭😭
it was 2006 u gotta give it to them
nah that line was fire (could've done without the smearing though)
I loved it. It was weird and gross and kinky and different and it reminds me of those wattpad stories lmao
Quick correction from a Brit: Felix’s friend says Oliver buys his clothes from Oxfam, not Oxford, which is a charity shop.
weird bc all the posh rlly rich ppl i know also mainly charity shop altho ig that’s what’s cool now but not in the 2000s
Also his eggs were fried “sunny side up”, right?! Over easy should have been flipped over (but still runny yolk, so kind of moot point)
@@mel-ed3yw Yeah poor core
@@mel-ed3ywyeah exactly that. How the times have changed.
Brit addition, Oxfam is one of the most expensive charity shops anyway
Oliver definitely took the phrase ‘idk if I wanna be him or be with him’ way too seriously!
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GUYS THE ESSAY WAS FORESHADOWING TOO. he writes it on "my last duchess" by Robert browning which is literally a monologue of a crazy man
and not just a crazy man, a crazy man WHO KILLS HIS LOVE INTEREST BECAUSE HE WANTED TO POSSESS/OWN HER
Browning also has a poem called "Porphyria's Lover" where an insane man murders his lover in order to keep her by his side forever
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@@_b_e_a_n_s_ yes omg!! we had an assignment on this and i would have NOT remembered it if i had not watched saltburn and made the connection
Omg wait you're so right. That was a crazy poem too
The breathing tube getting ripped out was worse for me to watch than the grave or bathtub scene
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that rocked me
Like he was starting a lawnmower
Beyblade on your esophagus 🤢
Healthcare worker here. I screamed.
Totally agree
there's just something about male rage portrayed through the female gaze that changes a girl
honestly it explains so much lmao. as soon as i learned a woman directed saltburn i was like “AHA”. so good.
@@theotherauthor740 me too i clocked something was different (ie the movie was good) about 3 mins in and had to google it AND WADAYAKNOW
YES
Ooh that's an interesting perspective! Were there any scenes in particular you saw this?
I wanna know too!! I’m so interested
one scene that really stuck out to me was when venitia was talking to oliver and said that she likes him better than last summer‘s boy, implying that felix brings someone with him every summer. it‘s not directly said or implied that he intentionally picks out someone poor and maybe he doesn‘t but that‘s what i got from that, especially since the whole family seems to be obsessed with taking in the less fortunate until they get tired of them.
Absolutely, Oliver was just another one of Felix’s poor toys for the summer. Honestly-I would go as far as to say that Felix left his door open at certain points so that Oliver could peep him doing sexual things. Felix was messing with him. However, this time Felix chose the wrong person and was destroyed completely.
@@sabrina3138idk if i’m dumb but i saw felix as being a pretty genueine and kind person. Not all the time like the racism scene with farleigh but like sometimes.
I think that the catton family just likes to take in the poor until they’re tired so that they can humblebrag about their life and status and pretend they’re doing a good thing when in reality, they’re doing nothing at all.
@@nitebreakyeah, i feel that is more likely that felix is "betrayed" by his friends due to his postition than him purposefully chasing poor boys and dumping them when he wants to. At one point he mentions that one of his friends fel in love with venitia
I think the maths boy saying that he'll get bored of oliver hinted at the fact that felix is known to pick out a person even by people that dont know him too well and oliver even knew, he never bats an eye when someone tells him felix will get bored as his plan is to create a story he wont get bored of
A detail I loved was that when Felix died, Ollie was not included in the stone-throwing tradition, he was watching from far away. He was not a part of the grieving family, but once their cousin is gone, and their daughter dies, he suddenly stands with them as if he's a part. It's SUCH a good way of showing how much he weasled his way into their mum's brain and into their family as a whole.
the cut to oliver reading about palissy after telling sir james he had admired palissy's work for years, implying that oliver had done research for that convo to impress sir james had me gagged
I was confused at that scene and was like why would he lie
@@tiaslays255i'm ngl i never thought i'd actually watch saltburn so i read the insanely detailed plot summary on wikipedia long before watching and knew he was faking the whole time but i feel like that scene was to introduce the viewer to the idea that oliver would lie about harmless things to get closer to the family OR ostracize farleigh before it's revealed that he lies about huge things yk
Side note; I don't know whether this was intentional symbolism by the film makers, but it is interesting that they chose Palissy to illustrate Oliver's manipulative nature because Palissy frequently incorporated 🐍snakes🐍 into his ceramics
@@tiaslays255 Oliver wanted to get ins with them. Oliver was also prepared to lie, and then obviously kill to get what he wanted. And the earlier lying sort of drip feeds us the eventual big ending.
I literally thought 'oh good for him, finding ways to connect with these rich odd people'
Ok but the bathtub scene would just be a bit cringe except for the TONGUE on the drain. I can't stop imagining the usual hair/soap scum sludge in most drains and that's what horrified/nauseated me.
THIS IS WHAT IS GETTING ME like the germs! The gunk! I can’t
That what grossed me out 😭 drains are so gross I hate them
I imagine based on how quickly the mirror was replaced that everything gets scrubbed and disinfected at least once a day, thankfully
@@Bybelial we can only hope
It's not so bad if you convince yourself that they're so rich they have a cleaner regularly clean the drains and what not
I’m so embarrassed that I felt really happy for Oli when I was watching the montage of him and Felix becoming friends. I literally said to my partner ‘isn’t it so cool that quiet, shy and unassuming people all have a fun and quirky side to them and sometimes they just need the confidence of a friend to bring it out.’ Then we just gradually watch him become absolutely unhinged.
He doesn't become unhinged, he is a psychopath
Don’t be embarrassed girl, it was truly sweet before we found out ahaha
I thought it was going to be a love story 😂😅
@@heatheradamson2255😂😂 little did we know
Right?! & little did we know about the absolute fucking rollercoaster ride that was about to unfold 😭
I also would like to point out that Farleigh is wearing the donkey head as a nod to Nick Bottom (the ass of the play) in A Mid Summer's Night Dream. Nick Bottom is the only character that interacts with both the fairies and humans, which in this case could be seen as having a foot in both the world of the rich and the poor. There's a lot more symbolism between the characters and MSND but I especially love Farleigh's.
Omg wait I love that
I think part of farleigh seeing through Oliver includes the study sessions and "thus" criticism. He had him pegged for a fake intellectual immediately. Someone who knows how to write is not using the word "thus" 7 times. That's something 10th graders do to try to sound smarter.
@@Oogabooga814true that’s an excessive use of this
@@Oogabooga814 hmmm his parents said he’s a genius and I kind of believe them. But maybe he’s not as “deep” and “intellectual” and into literature as we think. It was another “in”
@@laurenrobson46well they’re not wrong, he is a genius in how he manipulates people. His parents just think he’s a genius academically
I liked that at the end when Oliver was drunk crying to Felix in the maze that Felix looked really terrified of Oliver and I havent seen that in movies where a man is stalked and really afraid of a man like women usually are!?!?
Right, and it was so interesting that Felix is so much taller than Oliver but height and muscular advantage didn’t make him any less freaked out.
@@lunaoliveira7965the thing is stalking, no matter who does it, is terrifying to the victim, no matter how big they are. It’s a psychological mind f***.
THAT>>>>>> I think that's why the scene felt especially eerie to me, because like u said we never see a man terrified like that in movies, it's usually women who are. Especially a man that big in all senses saying his blood runs cold over Oliver... Brrrrr that was so fucking scary.
Then you need to watch more movies
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The way the Saltburn staff acted when Sir James kicked him off. THEY KNEW EVERYTHING
Oh my God i never realised that. I was like why would they mock him like that?
Saw that too. How come they were mean to him or jealous?
@@theahapa i had a feeling it was because of how invasive he was compared to the previous Felix's projects, and everyone living in that house is either too rich or too poor to care to move their class standing, only felix the secret middle class dressed like a poor person is constantly worrying about where he stand how to move in on the family acting like both and neither, always apologizing but also entitling himself to everything, it gave everyone the ick, like a snake in the grass, especially at Saltburn where that line is never meant to be crossed.
I will now be exclusively reffering to Jacob Elordi as "the Empire State Building." Thank you Nicole, as always, for the immaculate code names
Same. He's so freaking tall and adorable.
imagine him later on adopting the nickname "Empire"
he is also princess diana of 2020s
Like Eleanor calling Tahani a "sexy skyscraper".
he should be called the eureka tower which is the tallest skyscraper in melbourne
your cat, a payed actor, walking past the door when you were talking about the walking past the window scene. a true visionary
i loved the Greek mythology parallels as well, the minotaur and the labyrinth imagery and symbolism, hubris, the sacrifices, etc.
ooo also what about the midsomers references
And the shot of Felix when they find him and the shot is just the wings is like icarus having fallen
@@avapickard2406 yes! i’m so glad u mentioned this
@@avapickard2406 And he literally falls to the ground when he dies
Exquisite
Anyone else notice how Oliver wore a deer costume (prey) to symbolize how he was pretending to be harmless?
It's also the reference to another story in which the dear fea(?) Betrayed the beloved King aka felix
yeah and when he was following felix into the maze w his silhouette w the deer antler was creepy and cool
and Felix had wings, pretending to be (or maybe being seen by Oliver) as angelic. and that the wings are all you see of F after he dies
It’s more directly tied to him being Puck from the party theme midsummer night’s dream. Puck is portrayed with antlers/small horns. I do think that the choice of it being dainty antlers does correlate with your idea tho since she could’ve chosen the goat-like horns instead.
Wasnt that a reference to icarus? @samdyck683
It’s interesting that I don’t think he even needed the money. His parents seemed to be well off as they had a nice house and were talking about their vacations. He also had money in his wallet at the bar. It makes him appear even more sinister.
He lived well but nothing close to Felix. Just comparing their houses, while Oliver looks like he is upper middle class, Felix lived in a whole damn castle, he is rich rich! It wasn’t only the money, Oliver fell in love with the lifestyle.
I think that he also needed a special place in society because throughout his life in Oxford and his holidays with this family he heard «this life is not for you», «you are not like us». Maybe because of all this disregard he felt that he needed to change his social status.
I saw a breakdown talking about the obsession of the rich in late stage capitalism and how you can have enough but always want more it’s not enough for people to be able to afford nice things they want all of the best things. It’s the obsession with more and more and more
I always saw it as him wanting to be a king owning everything. Remember when the Oliver's parents said he wanted to be an only child?
a lot of people think oliver was genuinely in love with felix and i didn’t get that at all. i looked at oliver as an all-consumer, especially once venetia describes him as a moth and we learn of his status.
he wanted to own and consume felix and his life
I agree, to be in love with someone, in my opinion, you'd at least have good intentions. Oliver was selfish and lied with bad intentions from day one. He even said himself he's a vampire, he didn't care about Felix or anyone, just wanted their life.
I don't think he was in love with felix but I do think he interpreted his own feelings as love
He didn’t even try to have sex with him either
@@Victoria_Fama to me that was because he knew felix wouldnt want him after finding out about his lies, so he knew they only way to "gain him" was by killing him, which then he could finally do it
Yeahh i think his “love” was more of an obsession. He was inlove with Felixes life.Oliver wanted to be him. Thats why he says”Yeah i loved him but was i inlove with him”. The meaning is really different
I like to think that the dad stone not landing in the water was foreshadowing how Oliver was lying
yessss it just landing in vomit instead of water was showing how hes not sincere i gasped when i realised
Yes!! Thinking back it makes so much sense. At first I thought it was ironic, like well, he seemed to be a horrible father so he doesn't even deserve the stone landing on water.
That’s the whole point.
soooo much foreshadowing in this movie-
- the song from the beginning of the movie changing the lyrics to ‘olivier quick long live the king’ instead of the original lyrics
- felix’s doppelgänger passing the window when they were talking about the doppelgänger thingy- foreshadows his death as seeing someone’s doppelgänger results in rhat persons death
- venetia over pouring her glass of wine- mirroring how she dies (in a bath of overflowing blood water)
- elspeth choking/gagging on her food- which is how she died, choking on air to death when ollie pulled the tube out
it’s INSANE!
Also the fact that it landed on vomit and alcohol bottles foreshadowed that he was lying about their alcoholism and making his mother vomit as well
My personal favourite suspicion I had after watching it twice is that Oliver was trying to steal Felix’s condom in the scene where he insists on cleaning up Felix’s room. He watched him have sex the previous night, is staring intently at him shirtless in that scene and obviously we all know what happened in the bathtub. He’s side glancing at that bin the whole time and starts hurriedly trying to take it from the room, before Felix stops him in a panic. I really think this was just Oliver starting early (or trying to). He then tells Felix how he grew up in mess and filth later as a way to justify his insistence on taking the bin earlier.
Interesting observation - I thought the 'must tidy your roon, take charge of your life' thing out of character abd Fr
Felix obviously thinks so too. But getting that wet condoum makes complete sense, given how he slumps on the plughole later.
@@davidmeyer3565 I want to unread the phrase "wet condom"
and when we see Oliver's room he had throw up all over the sink and mirror so he was obviously lying!
@@shaemarie8196 ok that makes sense i was wondering about that
😮 yes!!!
i think it's interesting how the "gross scenes" are all about oliver interacting with substances related to life or death (consuming or fucking lol), which i read as oliver trying to insert himself into the family bloodline and therefore the status that can only come with birthright
I love this take as even though it’s so obvious (his self-insert), I never thought to associate the substances with the connotation of life/death and the bloodline.
Very big brain of you
(Edited for clarity)
i love this
Anyone who read fanfic growing up was not shocked by saltburn lol
THIS‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️ this movie was tame to me!!! and none of the gross scenes were seriously not that bad
I read the most deranged shit but actually seeing it, was different. The vampire shit killed me 😂
Nah nah nah, I’VE read so much fanfiction but this was truly vile, unhinged and depraved lol. I will say though, the vampire scene isn’t so bad bc he is not alone. It’s him and Venetia both participating and enjoying each other. The bath tub scene was revolting for me bc I’m a germophobe lol. The grave scene… THIS DAMN SCENE omfg no words. Beautiful, haunting, tragic, morally reprehensible, and unfathomable. Yet, it all fit so well.
@@ChiliCrisp88 i too have read a lot of fan fiction (dead dove do not eat 😰😰😰) in my time and this movie was not as disgusting as some people make it to be (maybe it’s because i’m deep into the horror/psychological/thriller genre) but i do believe some scenes were disturbing to viewers who weren’t expecting them. the movie was beautiful haunting and tragic and was a masterpiece, i hope to see more of the genre :) hopefully i don’t sound rude, just putting my thoughts out there
@@iiushiya2817 in no point of your comment are you being rude ily💗💗 I guess I completely forgot about dead dove do not eat fics bc I don’t often come across them, but also I’m too weak to read them😣
the coolest bit is when venetia is telling the story about the doppelgänger. felix walks past the window behind her and the camera pans to show he's at the table next to her. such a good foreshadowing easter egg
It’s also the same window they roll him past later in the movie, the detail in this film is so cool!
How did I miss this?? Just went back to see for myself - spot on! Love this detail.
i was thinking it was so weird someone was walking past the window in this scene/jarring. i didn't realize it was connected to venetia's story, i just thought it was a poorly placed extra because of how much it stood out in a movie
I ran to rewatch the scene and IT IS SO EERIE
she mentions it at 37:48
your outfits get progressively more “new york fashion week” in a great way
Their so c☆nt 😍
@@FinneyKatz in every way possible 😍😍
I think Oliver playing with the maze toy is him memorising it, as he knows how to find Felix and India when he loses them, and also when they find Felix's body the next day you can see a few people going the longer way and one person going the 'cheat' way - pretty sure its Oliver going the cheat way bc he gets there the same time as the rest of the family even though he was in the house when they heard Elspeth... but thats just my theory 🤔
I think also what Nicole said about them having the maze created with an easy way and a harder one and Felix obviously knowing the easy one bc he brings the girl there, represents his ease in life generally, and Oliver following Felix is him kinda leeching off. So even if he studied the maze it didn’t matter, bc just following Felix and getting everything through him (relates to the end of the story too) would bring him to the same center of the maze. Idk I noticed loads of details like that where small acts performed by Ollie in a calculated, yet also uncalculated way related to the bigger plot of his ascension in Saltburn. Like he didn’t have to do all that, but he still did it
yeah agree. huge foreshadowing moment. especially when the butler is like “don’t do that”.
the butler was def on to him or suspected something.
Hoping I can share some more insight as a brit - I think it's important Americans understand fully what we call the "North/South divide". Stereotypically, northerners think of southerners as stuck up and rich, and southerners think of northerners as common and poor, and this "divide" has been going on for timeeeeeee.
Felix and the Saltburners are all of course southern, and Oliver is Liverpudlian (northern) - a clear choice here, as the actor is Irish, so he could have done annnnnnnnny regional english accent. Oliver played on these stereotypes with his "poverty" and "family issues" and the southeners lapped that up.
I'm northern myself, and we are widely underrepresented on television and within the government, and most media of this type would have MOST people rooting for the northerner, the underdog, and showing how toxic the rich can be (whiiiiich was done to a certain extent). "look how these posh rich people manipulate this naive northerner".
Saltburn really flipped this on its head, whilst being seemingly self-aware of what it was doing. No doubt in my mind Emerald used the north/south divide as another unexpected twist and to manipulate the audience to truly expect what they weren't expecting.
Knowing the film was wild going into it but having no context, I ABSOLUTELY believed I would be siding with the Northerner. Just another nod to british culture in my opinion.
There's also something to be said about the treatment of working-class (northern especially) people at one of the "big three" universities (oxford, cambridge, durham) and how there is said to be "who can take the poorest person home" etc. initiation games amongst the affluent societies, but that's a story for another day haha.
It’s more south east vs the rest of England, the West Country gets very little representation despite that being the south of England. Also the scouse accent is the closest English accent to Irish so that is also a justification for being from Liverpool.
Nowadays Cambridge and Oxford aren’t particularly nor snobby than other universities like Bristol, Warwick, Edinburgh, etc. nowadays the push for Oxford and Cambridge to have less private school students causes more to go to these other highly ranked universities
I'm from Merseyside so automatically was on ollie's side. Kinda felt like he let the team down 😅 although I can't pretend like I don't love watching a scouser tear down the rich stately family
are there actually families like this? I feel like they're so commonly portrayed in American media lol. like uber rich with giant estates like that. it can't be that common? lol
@@uthskid I’ve certainly never met one 😂
@@uthskid honestly havent met one... im at lse so i know a few rich kids but its rlly not like this. def dramatised
I feel like the blood scene with Venetia was disturbing because of Oliver using her eating to get her to sleep with him. It was one of the creepiest scenes I’ve ever seen because I just couldn’t imagine someone using a mental health disorder (privileged information told to him by Venetia’s mother) to get with her.
someone said Saltburn did for bathtubs what Call Me by Your Name did for peaches, and I think about that a lot
TAKE IT BACK😭
Ahahaha the director of Saltburn did say in a interview she was the kinda person who’d eat the peach lmaaao
the worst part (and by that i actually mean best) was that if you have no context, it sets it up for about half the movie like a romance, so that by the time you’ve realized you’ve made a mistake you’re too invested to turn it off, and the least you can do for yourself for enduring all the discomfort you’ve already experienced is to see what happens at the end. this is exactly what happened with me 😭
Yep, I went in fully expecting it to be an LGBT romance.
Yeah I had no idea what the movie was about. I saw Trin posted a video about it and a few beautiful shots of Jacob Elordi and I thought it was like a coming of age/gay love story or something. I was...... thrown off to say the least.
@@jayceyallen7745 yup… same for me
That is it, i’m glad there were several of us that experienced it this way bc all i knew was Jacob Elordi was in it and when it began I was like “Oh a cute little gay movie” and IT WAS NOT but i had already gone too far into it to NOT SEE IT THROUGH bc i had NO IDEA where it was going
Or me being an incorrect cynicist thinking Jacob's character was gonna be the villain😅
Quick correction! He asked for his eggs over easy which means you’re supposed to flip the egg over so it’s cooked on both sides, and they served him undercooked sunny side up eggs which is when you don’t flip the egg and leave the top a bit runny, so he ordered correctly
No that’s not true! He used an Americanism, which shows he doesn’t fit in. He ordered exactly what he got
@@starsong124oop, not really. Eggs over easy are sunny side eggs flipped over with a semi cooked yolk. So not as runny as what he got. The main subtext here is the standing lore that the English posh like raw yolks because it's fancier. And no one, not even the butler, understood why he asked for them, and when he was given what would be the "right way" to eat eggs, he refused to sit meekly like he would've a few scenes ago. Which could be him starting to impede on Saltburn as a resident and not a guest 👀
Yeah I was looking for this comment cause Oli wasn't in the wrong!
I think Duncan was trying to trip him up for the Catton Family’s entertainment
Omg you’re RIGHT! I totally missed that in the moment, nice catch!
I think that Oliver purposely kissed Venetia when she was in the bath so that she would hate herself even more for being attracted to him. He then planted the razor blades on the side of the bath so that she would go through the idea of killing herself and eventually do it.
I think he killed her, there’s watery blood all over the floor when she’s discovered in the tub.
there’s also a cup next to her which i could be wrong, but i don’t remember seeing before, and Oliver had mentioned her drinking water. i wouldn’t put it past him to have given her the same thing he gave Felix, then went back in when she was gone and staged her killing herself. also, the blood on the floor could easily be explained by Venetia herself moving at all (or regretting if she did do it) and the floors in a house that old are notoriously unleveled, so i wouldn’t be surprised if the water could’ve just ran like that
@@thisiskittaI think so too
My interpretation of the breakfast scene with runny eggs was Oliver showing the butler that he has power to order him around. He ordered eggs, the only thing that had to be made specifically for him and than immediately sending it back to make the butler do more work for him. Obviously he was acting nice and apologetic about it, but in the essence I feel like he knew exactly what he was doing.
That was my thought too - he knew the butler didn’t like him so it was his way of getting back at him.
I think he also did it in front of the family to make them think he’s stupid too so they wouldn’t expect a betrayal from him
Over easy eggs are lightly fried on top. He was served sunny side up eggs - eggs conisour
I think the scene with Oliver's parents where they talk about how he never had friends and wished he was an only child hints that he's always been a sociopath. Also the theme of the party is A Midsummer Night's Dream. Farleigh is Bottom. The character who gets turned into a donkey for acting like...well a donkey. Fits Farleigh perfectly. Oliver is Puck, the mischievous sprite. And I believe Felix is Titania, the beautiful fairy queen who is loved and adored by all but also falls privy to Puck's tricks. Also my mother noticed the teddy bear on Felix's coffin and believes this a nod to Brideshead Revisited. Which is a story about a boy who is invited to his friend's manor where there is an unrequited homosexual love story (though its the rich boy in the novel) and has the friend fall for the sister which makes the rich boy jealous.
Puck and Bottom are also two characters that interact with both humans and fairies. Bottom is a human that enters the fairy world and Puck enters the human world to play tricks on them
YOU WATCHED THIS WITH YOUR MOM???!!?!?
@@s04p11 yes. and after I had already seen it on my own in theaters
As someone who watched all of GOT with both my parents, I appreciate when family can watch awkward scenes together and laugh about it 😂
i think oliver is actually a psychopath, not a sociopath
Just wanted to say he bought his clothes from Oxfam which is actually a charity shop, so she was acc being a nasty classist babe
I had to pause this movie multiple times not because it was disturbing, but because the secondhand embarrassment was too much for me. Like the breakfast scene made me so uncomfortable because of that.
Also I feel like this is what Sam Levinson and The Weekend wished the Idol could be, but they could never
Exactly 😭 i ran to the comments to see if anyone else got hella second hand embarrassment from this movie
Yeah me too. I crumpled up from the cringe. Watched it in three parts w/multiple pauses haha. So stressful
cuz they're men.
I watched it with my boyfriend and he kept saying how the sex stuff wasn’t necessary and I was like the bathtub and “vampire” scenes are crucial to understanding Oliver as a character without him just saying it.
i reaaly liked that it was described as a vampire movie, because i always wondered how vampires got their castles in their stories and now i know
when Felix said I don't even notice that you're "different" my ancestors rolled in their grave a little, like Felix was so stuck in his world it crazy
that line was INSANE
yeah, that line was top cringe moments, and that's saying a lot for this movie
Felix really said I don’t see colour (spelled the British way)
that was so bad omfg
I saw saltburn on thanksgiving knowing nothing about it. me and the other 7 people in the theatre were audibly gasping throughout. i've been needing to unpack the experience, so thank you.
I watched it on Christmas on my ipad while my family was cooking behind me lol. After the bathtub scene I had to turn and sit in a way that they couldn't see my screen😂
@@jayceyallen7745 thank god they didn't see bc they would've all lost their appetites
IT WAS SHOWN IN THEATRES?? LMAOA
When it comes to second hand embarrassment I totally get you. I will literally stop reading a book or watching a show if it has too intense second hand embarrassment. Sexual or “gross” scenes still make me uncomfortable, but second hand embarrassment makes me SO viscerally uncomfortable I just can’t bear it.
Same I have to skip scenes constantly because it just makes my skin crawl
literally!!! like the grave scene was nothing to me, the karaoke scene was LITERAL TORTURE
@@katemartin113RIGHT LMFAO
i kept covering my face and screaming the whole movie
@@katemartin113when they showed up at Oliver's parents house I was debating skipping ahead because I could barely stand it 😭
Also something of note is that when they look for Felix's body, Oliver takes the easy maze route and Venitia and Farleigh take the harder route. Which is incredibly long btw if you go back and look at the top shot of the maze.
I love how Felix is the literal representation of a child/teenager. With his innocent posture of sitting and posing in a vulnerable way and the many scenes in which he’s eating a lollipop shows his childlike nature and pureness. And also his quick pecks and kisses of affection are similar to that of toddlers showing their love, and the multiple references to “ toys” and how “ he doesn’t like to share his toys”. As we know Felix comes from an extremely wealthy family and has always been the centre of attention due to his charm, confidence, and charismatic personality. However, he’s been too well protected by his family, namely his parents who always sweep “ bad things” under the rug, like when addressing his death or kicking guest out. In a way, his parents have protected him too well from reality always keeping him in this bubble of delusion and how the world is a good place filled with good people by blocking out the bad. In a way his trustfulness in Ollie was a major cause of his death, and Oliver knew that so he took advantage of his weakness of purity and innocence ultimately succeeding in murdering him.
Just a quick correction: Oliver orders ‘Over easy’ eggs but is given ‘Sunny side up’ which is why he complains. Very clear Duncan does NOT like him lol
That was an odd one because that’s an American thing, nobody uses that in the U.K. would just be fried and potentially runny / not runny. We don’t really have the over easy / sunny side up thing here.
It’s that in an upper class household, you would only choose scrambled or fried.
@@Glaiket a posh person would definitely chose poached or boiled though 😅
i feel like over easy has runny yolk too 🙄🙄🙄
Duncan knew before ANY OF US
nicole could literally publish a "chronically online girl explains how paint dries" and i would still sit down and watch all of it
the metaphor for ollie's dominance played out through sex and sexual despotism IS SO SO SO GOOD literally my favourite type of movies are the male rage ones through the female gaze (emerald fennell is a genius idc)
"male rage through the female gaze" would be a sick band name
Wtf is male rage
@@smartwater598 think for 2 seconds
that’s what i thought!!
@@smartwater598angry man
i wish saltburn was a book so bad
realll
it’s lowkey a mix between The Talented Mr. Ripely (the obsession with someone w more wealth) and The Secret History, (trying to fit in with the rich kids)
@@analu_reidthe secret history !!! throughout the video, realizing oliver was such a chameleon reminded me of richard, the way they so despratley want to be a part of a certain grouo, or in this case take over
Okay a few things I haven’t seen anyone talk about in the comments that I found cool when researching theories and thought were so cool and wanted to share
Pamala’s “suicide”- earlier in the film at dinner Pamala is telling Oliver how she had this Russian boyfriend and how everything was great until his business partners started falling out of tall buildings (implying staged suicides). She was staying with the Cattons to hide out from him. So when they kick her out and she dies by what looks like suicide--the film is subtly implying that she was killed by the boyfriend she was hiding from because the Cattons kicked her out. Which, I think this is so important in the context of how the Cattons bring in people they feel bad for to make them feel good about themselves but eventually listening to their sob stories and living with them gets boring and annoying to them because they dont actually care about them so they are on to their next pity project. And the Cattons lack of empathy or ability to even connect the dots that she was murdered BY THE MAN SHE WAS THERE TO HIDE OUT FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE. It really just emphasizes how arrogant and ignorant they are to other people's real world problems. Which, even to their own problems, the parents ignore them and sweep everything under the rug and dont talk about it--Venetia and Felix make it clear that they are used to this and this is how they were raised. Sir James even shuts his eyes and covers his ears when Felix's body is being wheeled by the window. This kind of foreshadows his death, him shutting the world out, if you will.
While on the topic of foreshadowing...
In the lunch scene when Felix's body is being wheeled by the window, we see Venetia overflowing her glass with red wind and drinking it and spilling it all over herself--this DEFINITELY foreshadows her death. At the same moment, right when Felix's body is being wheeled by (Nicole even included the exact clip in the video)--we see Elspeth gagging or choking on her food, This is also foreshadowing Elspeth's death.
ALSO Oliver completes every family members base needs
here is another theory from Screen Rant I am just going to copy and paste because it is complicated and good and long but it is SO GOOD
"Upon arriving at the Saltburn estate, the four characters Oliver mingles with the most are Felix, Farleigh, Venetia, and Elspeth, and a theory suggests that he completes a "base need" for each of them. For Felix, Oliver presents the idea of someone he can care for, fulfilling his savior complex. Farleigh is the lowest on the totem pole at the estate, and Oliver gives him someone he can pick on. Venetia suffers from an eating disorder, and the blood scene demonstrates Oliver providing her with complete bodily acceptance. Elspeth is essentially seeking a "yes man," which Oliver quickly becomes for her. These angles suggest Oliver's detailed manipulation tactics."
if yall are interested in more theories check out this article and more on screen rant (not an ad by any means) they have a lot of cool ones on Saltburn!!
screenrant.com/saltburn-movie-theories-change-story/#the-saltburn-estate-demands-blood-sacrifices
Thanks for taking ur time to write all of this!!!
something i just noticed about the body scene because of your comment, they’re all bathed in red lighting because of the curtains, and i initially saw this as them bathed in death (of Felix). but now after finishing the movie i realize it was foreshadowing for all of their deaths, as only Farleigh leaves, avoiding his own death. the 3 of them also somewhat fall into the “hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil” with the father covering his ears, the mother choking, and the sister not seeing that she’s over pouring her glass! lots of cool stuff in that one scene
@@lightworthy OMFG I LOVE THIS!!!
@@bailorallen6845 omggg that's my most disorganized playlist of all time lmaooo i never thought someone would see that besides me 🙈🙈🙈glad you liked it! i can give you some recs if you want!
I literally just stopped watching the movie and then opened youtube and this was my first thing to pop up. Thank you Nikki nasty for feeding my confusion on this movie
me too 😭
Same omg
the "im a vampire" scene was CRAZY
As a former English Literature (& Language) student I loved this film.
So many references to Greek mythology and popular culture. Minotaurs in Greek mythology demand a sacrifice and Oliver poisoned the bottle ultimately sacrificing him.
Venetia dying in a bathtub is ironic because her name likely originates from Venice in Italy, which is built over water....Her character also reminds me of Ophelia in Shakespeare's Hamlet where she also died in water after being spurred by Prince Hamlet.
Great observation!! I hadn’t noticed that
Venetia could be a reference to the book Venetia by Georgette Heyer. There are overlayering similarities with events in the book to aspects of Saltburn. It feels far too much of a coincidence, there’s even a lie about family member being dead when they aren’t actually dead. Venetia in the book is a rich privileged and sheltered woman too. And more. I recommend checking that out if you haven’t.
Can we also talk about how in the end scene he took the box with the Catton Players on it, where they're displayed as puppets and he moved it to the grand room, set in the middle and took their rocks OUT OF THE WATER setting them on top of each respective family's doll??? As if he was the puppet master the whole time! I can't this movie...
I loved this scene because what hit me the hardest from it was that he had to actually go IN the water, and retrieve those stones every damn time. And watching it back, whenever they throw another stone in, you see that there's no other stones from the previous funerals there. The dedication to collecting the stones alone is crazy.
i just wanna say, i think jacob elordi was REALLY good in this film! like i cant imagine his role being anyone else. idk if its just me, he just has this face that makes you WANT to see the good in his characters? maybe its his eyes idek but also the body language was REALLY good. like the way he moved and emoted in this film was just SOOOOOO good, genuinely made me a fan of him
It's scientifically proven that humans are predisposed to see beautiful people as good and innocent, and ugly people as malicious, etc.
I saw this with my 63-year-old mother and 78-year-old aunt and haven't spoken to them since. I don't think I can face them ever again 😭
Solidarity. Years ago, my Spanish teacher assigned an extra credit option to watch & write a summary for _Y tu mamá también_ (2001). It was in theaters & R-rated, meaning I accepted my dad's offer to go with me.
The only thing we knew was that it would be entirely in Spanish.
Have you seen that film?
Do you know the sort of scene it opens on?
I am confident you, your mother & your aunt will face one another* again, this just... might be something never brought up again.
Baby it’s just a movie. It’s gonna be okay 😂
Dude, why?? 😂😂😂 They’ll recover. Remember they are older-have seen more and done more than you.
i need to see more people talking about duncan an the servants at saltburn!!! there's no way they weren't catching on to ollie's shit. duncan's character description on prime literally says "duncan is saltburn". he is "all-seeing". he knew everything.
if you liked saltburn and haven’t seen The Talented Mr Ripley PLS WATCH IT. I feel like saltburn was heavily inspired by it and is imo the more intricate and subtle but equally shocking film
OMG THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT I TOLD MY MOM!!!!!! SO TRUE!!
THIS. the 2 films r so similar and both r very interesting and intricate (and they both have weirdly queer bg themes lol) personally i prefer the talented mr ripley:]
Thanks for the recommendation. I knew about both films, but still haven’t watched either. I’ll do a mini marathon now :P
Yes! They have actually mentioned it takes themes heavily from brideshead revisited and ttmr. So there’s the Waugh line and the car ride before he gets where Felix is taking him that mirrors the sailboat scene in Ripley . So make a day of it 😊
Maybe I need to re watch Mr Ripley because me and my mates saw it and just didn't get it at all and were mainly confused
Barry Keoghan is so underrated!! Im so glad he's getting the recognition he deserves especially bc this was such an odd character it's very impressive to me how well he played Oliver. Ive been obsessed since Dunkirk lol
The way that it is foreshadowed that Oliver was lying about his life, when he projected and also manipulated the mom that their guest Pamela was lying about her stories and suffers.
In one scene Pamela speaks about how her russian bf's bussiness partners were being thrown out of windows, and that is what made her go in hiding, which according to Oliver's statement about her stories, this was all,allegedly a lie, and then later on in some point through the movie we hear that she is dead.(probably k1lled bu her bf), which proves that she was indeed telling the truth, the only one lying here was Oliver.
love watching this during my lunch hearing that the cvs printers were broken knowing that i am sitting in my own cvs with a broken poster printer
The movie was actually one of the weirdest that I watched but I think that it perfectly displayed Ollie’s obsession, the switch up into seeing his descent into madness was soo good, the reveal of his lie, the audience reaction omg it was so good
I think the butler also knew all along that he was doing something too. Like what other reason would he have to be so observant of him and looking at him like he knew all of his secrets. But he couldnt do anything in his position!
I feel like all the ppl that weren't born into generational wealth could see he has bad/selfish intentions bc they could notice all the quirks that signaled to him getting too comfortable too quickly (and the butler esp is probably used to seeing ppl show up to use the family for their money and stuff)
Michael, Farley and the butler all have seen the habits of ppl who have actually struggled and then here comes Oliver who requests a full English breakfast after only being in the house for maybe 12 hours or something.
I wondered if the butler would have stayed on when Oliver inherits Saltburn. The butler might resent Oliver and seemed disdainful, and it seems like Oliver would get rid of him. It’s sad though, because the butler seemed invested in the legacy of Saltburn, and Emerald Fennel said he was supposed to be like “one of the bricks of Saltburn”
I was hoping the butler would have been wating just behind the last doorway while Oliver was dancing and prancing through the house, and as soon as he stepped through WHACK axed.
Duncan was as much a piece of Saltburn as the walls themselves, and walls don't speak. He knew Oliver was no good, but didn't say a word, not even to the police. His loyalty was to the place, not the people.
You can also see Oliver taking the literal cheat's route in the actual maze when they're all looking for Felix. It's a cenital shot of the family going in and he's not following them, he's getting to Felix first
If you look back when they’re running towards Felix’s body near the minotaur, you would see that the Catton family were going through the difficult route, whereas Felix through the short route.
Yaaaasss I noticed that too
Trisha somehow being in every video is so funny and I’m here for it.
6 degrees of Trisha Paytas
i literally watched saltburn just so i could watch your video without being spoiled
SAME 😭
absolutely same
LMAO SAME
real LMAOO
Saaaaame
One thing I noticed during the first watch was the foreshadowing (in retrospect, of course) of Venicia's death taking place in the bath and from bleeding, and how the lighting during the "vampire" scene made her sheer nightgown almost look transparent like water - bathtub parallels.
Then, on top of that, the fact that Ollie's first and last interactions with Felix involve him watching Felix have sex, and them drinking together.
I also enjoyed how for Ollie's birthday, when they're all together for the last time, Felix's father wears his suit of armour, which could be symbolic of how his family, despite everything, are the thing he holds as most valuable, and keeps him protected, and then the very next scene, he loses his armour, and his son simultaneously.
OOHHHH I LOVE THIS
I NEVER noticed that with Venicia that’s such a good detail
Watching this recap as a lesbian who found both of these main boys completely insufferable is WILD. most unrelateable recap i love it 10/10
Just watched this tonight and im from the North of England and I couldve screamed with how accurate the feeling of being poor and thrusted into a wealthy family dynamic was like, I dated a guy for about a year who had MONEY like family bought a flat in London next to the arts uni, big estate in Kent and paid 2 kids rent with private school backgrounds money. I understand it was a facade for Oliver but the scenes were filmed so perfectly I loved it, so uncomfortable 😂
I was surprised that you didn't mention the reference to the Greek myth about the Labyrinth and the Minotaur and how it's a commentary on the absurdity of the rich.
Can you elaborate on that? I saw the statue in the middle of the labyrinth, but didn't quite get the symbolism
As a chronically offline-boy I enjoy these videos as they help me understand what the heck my peers are talking about when internet stuff comes up
Oliver was 100% in love with Felix. We all know this, right?
I think once he realized Felix was never going to return his love, after finding out Ollie lied about his parents, he changed his plans to take Saltburn and win Felix to just taking Saltburn.
There’s far too many things he did, both before and after Felix’s death, that imply his feelings were true.
I don't think it was love. I don't think it was EVER love, but Oliver is a sociopath, and I think he thought his feelings were love
It was envy, I think, because he wanted to be Felix
@@thehermionegrangerrit was obsession for sure
@@manicpepsicola3431 Obsession and a desperate need to be him, and I think he thought he wanted to be with him because of that but what he always wanted was to BE Felix
I agree. i think Oliver loved him too. Or at least the closest that Oliver could come to feeling love because of him being a sociopath or whatever personality disorder he had. At least that angle is more interesting to me than that he wants to be Felix just because i think that trope is a little overplayed especially with like queer stories idk. (i feel like every story where there is like homo pining and then its like "psych actually she was just jealous" its kinda like come on homephiles have other emotional complexes other than obsession driven by envy).
It seems more likely that Oliver actually wanted to be with Felix but settled for having Saltburn especially because of the many times in the movie where we can see Felix from Olivers point of view and its clear like how much he romanticises him. Especially the scene where Felix is giving him a tour of Saltburn and Oliver is not even looking around in the different rooms he is only looking at Felix. Its all very romanctic. I think that scene makes it clear that at least at that point in time Oliver wants Felix way more than he wants to manipulate his way into having Saltburn for himself. I think Oliver is at least very infatuated with Felix.
(also im not trying to be rude to ppl who like the theory that Oliver wanted to be Felix. it might be a little bit of both
@@annikagylling3685 I agree. Also why are people so obsessed with "is is TRUE love???". I feel like what a lot of movies show us is just people having the most brutal crush ever. Because they don't even really know the love interest yet. Sometimes it's tunring into something sinister like Saltburn or it stays romantic like Call Me By Your Name. But neither of those movies were about actual love, at least not how I define it. And that is okay because love is boring, in the best way possible (steady, comforting) but it is.
Stupidly tiny detail but Oliver asked for over easy eggs and received sunny side up eggs. They are both technically runny but all of the white part is cooked in over easy eggs and only the yolk is runny. I love over easy eggs and wouldn’t touch sunny side up so that scene made sense to me
Thank you..
the way i could literally write a college level essay about this movie and it's symbolism.
literally finished the film 14 hours ago... IT WAS AN EXPIRIENCE, never have i ever thought "he's not gonna do that" and then look at him doing exactly the thing SO MANY TIMES; big thanks for the video nicole
lol that’s exactly what i thought during the grave scene
Favorite movie of the year! Such a great modern gothic tale! In traditional gothic stories, specifically gothic romances, it is the story of a young innocent character who is brought to a mansion/castle by a dark mysterious character where the innocent character discovers sinister secrets and dark tragic things happen. I love that in this gothic story it is the "innocent" one that brings the chaos and tragedy to the gothic mansion.
Exactly!! The cinematography was beautiful, the performances were amazing, the plot was interesting... who cares if it wasn't ground breaking... LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS
Any other the secret history girly also noticed the parallel between Oliver and Felix and Richard and Henry? The unreliable narrator, making up a false background story, the romanticizing of Felix's problematic behavior, the constant need Oliver has to just be a part of all their lives at all costs- i didn't even watch the movie and it is truly insane on how many levels you can interpret this
YES OMG, ABSOLUTELY! i’ve been telling everyone this, the obsession that richard had with trying to fit in with the rich kids and the obsession w Henry aka Felix is so literally the movie
yes omg ???
i have been obsessed with saltburn for weeks and this is by far the best take i've seen on it i agreed with everything that was said and OMFG THE FELIX DOPPELGANGER BLEW MY MIND
This is the best review of this movie I have seen so far. The tongs, the pictures, the cats, sister wives, the Empire State Building - hilarious! This is basically a film about watching a sociopath go to "work", and now that he has the Saltburn estate, he is just going to keep doing what he is doing - finding more rich victims to play with and possibly dispatch once he gets tired of them or they do something he doesn't like.
“Deep into the trenches of the bathtub drain” PLEASE NICOLE NO
at the beginning of the movie, oliver also mentions Evenlyn Waugh. his most famous work, Brideshead Revisited, is basically the blueprint for this ENTIRE movie
What's crazy is that if Oliver was honest about his family he still would have been in Felix's life just because of the bike and bar scenes. Felix genuinely liked him and wanted him around.
Farleigh is so freaking cute. The scene at the end where Oliver is writing the email is everything to me, the way Farleigh is sleeping is perfect, he’s my beautiful angelic girly pop.
Love this!!! Oliver also wears Felix’s robe the day they found his body. Unfortunately I noticed it so I knew Oliver killed him.
I watched salt burn with my parents and when the bathtub scene happened I literally just was shocked then the period scene happened and I left
i couldn’t imagine with my parents 😭
@@lynax6980 we didn’t know what the movie was about and my mom is in love with Jacob elordi so we started watching it and apparently they finished the movie
It's okay dwdw when call me by your name with that actor who shall not be named and timothee chalamet, I was like 14, I just wanted to see a happy gay movie and so I watched it with my mom. Our relationship was irreparably changed from that day on
@@macdaniels9887what’s wrong with Timothee chalamet?
@@Sehon13Ultdthey’re referring to arm*e h*mmer with the beginning of their comment i think!
I litterally thought i was the only one who saw felix in the doppelgänger scene. no other review mentioned this, which made it so much freakier. it freaked me out so bad that i had to turn it off. this movie is golden.
I don’t get it I think I wasn’t paying enough attention I’m gonna rewatch the movie
ME TOO, i didn't really connect the dots, but, as she was talking I went why tf is felix outside?? but since no one talked about it i brushed it off as a coincidence (which it clearly couldn't be)
i 100% agree with where you said Oliver wanted Felix so much he wantd to become him, Oliver was completely obsessed with Felix to a very unimaginable level that when Felix figures out his lies and ultimately rejects Oliver in Oliver's mind, he couldn't bare not being able to be with/close with Felix. Oliver would rather have Felix killed than living with Felix simply hating him .
and i truly belive that Oliver did regret killing Felix, so he wanted to take over everything Felix was, everything that remained a sense of Felix's existence
I love and despise the bathtub scene in equal measure. from a cinematography and storytelling standpoint, it's delicious. raw, visceral, uncomfortable, a perfect portrayal of Ollie's growing obsession for Felix. absolutely brilliant. I also never want to see it again, thank you.
the bathtub scene saw like ew but the grave scene was, for me personally, was much more uncomfortable.
and the fact that it was improvised too..
@@chamomille3981WHAT
@@chamomille3981what do u mean improvised??
@@tiaslays255he was only supposed to lay there. The humping was not scripted
@@chamomille3981yes please share bc I don’t wanna google that lolol
Thank god! I needed someone to explain this movie to me
Fun fact: my sister asked to take us to see a movie on Thanksgiving day and she brought me and my parents to see Saltburn
Oh- 😭😭😭
How did it go? Haha
Upon first watch I genuinely saw Oliver as quite relatable up until his birthday and then I was like “woah ok maybe not that much” and it really is amazing how I was fooled into the same farce as the characters it was really enjoyable. I love the concept of all consuming love and how much it can be twisted in different ways and saltburn is just so visually stunning as a whole.
Licking the bathtub is relatable to me too lol
watched this movie in a tiny cinema with my gf and when they said "she would do anything for attention" i actually gasped so loudly like 3 people turned to look at me, my jaw was on the floooooor