Your videos are probably one of my favorite things to watch on RUclips I love how you fact check yourself and Highlight the complexity of the topics that you are speaking about. Honestly I can't think of anything better than watching your shorts and your videos on adult afternoon keep making the content and I'll keep watching.
my grandpa was Republican, he was captured and changed sides to the Nationalists and just spent his days wasting as much ammo uselessly as he could. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco
What's funny about that war is that anarchists, communists, and socialists didn't even ally themselves, one account tells us of the time a communist city asked an anarchist town for goods and they just said no
Not only were there Spanish nationalists in the National side, but also localist traditionalists from Navarre and the Basque Country. Franco is often seen as a dumb little man, but the dude managed to unite nationalists, localists, fascists, syndicalists and the Church under his Falange de las JONS. These groups would have had no trouble killing each other if the others didn't exist. The Republicans didn't have a unifying figure like that, and entire fronts were led by political groups who refused to listen to the government too often, like the anarchists in Aragon or the famous Barcelona in-fighting later in the war.
A lot of the murders during the Spanish civil war would be under accusations of being a communist or a fascist, but specially in villages these were mostly vague claims and real reasons could be as petty as disputes over who’s terrain was whose and payback over discussions actually happened
Spanish Civil War: Communists and fascists from other countries are getting involved, churches are being burned, labor unions bombed, surrender disregarded, prisoners tortured and civilians targeted. Stakuyi: Messy.
@@mrgopnik5964 Lol, accurate. Furthermore I’ve heard historians refer to the Spanish War of Succession as a Pre-WWI. So in that sense Spain has always been a sort of war lab for the rest of Europe.
@@davidvazquez1014 Yes, but a 200 year difference in between them and different countries involved in the war with very different warfare technology means both wars have little in common.
Modern day spanish left wingers try to always depict the spanish civil war as a conflict between democrats and fascists but the dark truth is that each side had factions inside them that hated each other and at some point tried to kill each other to take full control over their own side while they were still fighting against the other side. This phenom was much more common on the republican side and was one of the biggest factors of its defeat.
The spanish civil war started as a fascist military coup against a democratic government tho. The spanish communist party (PCE) was a minor force at the start of the war, but they became stronger since 1) they had a lot of soviet help 2) their militias were disciplined (more discipline = more likely to win = more volunteers, no one wants to fight for a losing commander) while other groups like the anarchists didn't had any.
Le recomiendo que lea la Constitución de la II República. Sepa usted que todos los procesos electorales de la II República fueron falseados. Largo Caballero , líder del PSOE, declaró que prefería la guerra civil a la democracia. Durante la guerra civil , el gobierno del Frente Popular negoció con el III Reich y con el Duce la entrega de Baleares y Canarias, si dejaban de ayudar al general Franco. @@samirnodormir3097
@@DoggyBingBong Which "Espana"? The one ruled by "effective managers" and where if you even slightly think about getting rights as a worker you would be shot and/or beaten up, while most of the population didn't even know their alphabet?
@@throwfascistsintopits3062 the one that didn’t promise to destroy Spanish culture. Additionally, the national syndicalists gave the workers the rights an autonomy that the communists could only dream of.
I actually saw a really interesting movie that takes place during the Spanish Civil War. It's called 'There Be Dragons' it talks about the war and the founding of the Catholic Group opus dei.
@@joko2882 I think its supposed to represent the unknown. Which makes sense since no one new what was going to happen during that time in history. You had the entire world change dramatically from 1850 to 1950 that it was hard to think that we had been living nearly the same way for centuries and then we just shot forward technology wise that it was like living in the future.
Just for letting you know, that movie was financially supported by Opus Dei, they are a religious sect and it's not historically accurate, also it has a very subjective point of view. It's not the best movie to understand the Spanish Civil War.
@@elsenordesayuno6942 Didn't know it was funded by them. And I figured it wasn't that accurate but it was still an interesting watch. Honestly when it comes to most Catholic church stuff I take it with a large grain of salt. Main reason I was interest is because it had the oldest son from Yellowstone in it.
@@lauramonjas3131also The USSR stipulated that the POUM should fight the anarcho-syndicalists because stabbing non-authoritarian Socialists is all they really knew what to do
I mean, Franco had most of the army (except the navy) by his side, especially the African Army as they had the most experience and basically captured western Spain by themselves.
@@wevon8233 the nationalist only control around 30%-35% of the army and a big amount of that around 20% was the african army that was isolated during the first half of the conflict unable to move to the peninsular side From 150 generals of the spanish army only around 20 were in the nationalist side (but around half of the loyals were remove or degraded for political and trust problems) the nationalist win because they were more unite and because they have better officials quality (this was no only because the nationalist control one of two militar academy for officials but also because the republican side dowgrade a lot of officials for political reasons and the upgraded were more for political ideologic reasons than meritocratic)
@@mastrey Franco had 800000 men under his control, this is not counting foreign volunteers that weren't there at the start of the war, and the Republicans had about 700000 in the beginning. These exact numbers may be wrong so feel free to correct me, but these numbers feel like around 50% whent to both sides. You are right about the unity, and quality of officers, but their victory can also be attributed to Republican incompetence, not just disunity. Like a good portion of the loyalist army were untrained militias, and the government didn't exactly help by being subservient to the soviets, like at a time they were more focused on transferring their gold reserves to Russia and on arresting anarchists than fighting the Nationalists.
Because you are in the subject of the Spanish civil war there's a story I hope you talk about it is the story of Melchor Rodríguez García also know as the red Angel he was the last mayor of Madrid before the francoists and the falangists took over although he was an anarchist he pardoned hundreds of fascists that were going to be sentenced to execution which prevented his own execution but during the military junta he passed away in 1972 he was the only anarchist that was allowed to have a public funeral and he was buried with an anarchist flag.
Fun Fact: It was this experience from fighting in Spain, that gave George Orwell the inspiration to write his most famous novel of all time, the classic dystopian novel of 1984.
@@CodaMission Yes, along with his experience fighting in Spain, when he was part of the International brigade to help the Republic, but once the Republican side became fractured due to infighting, he learned that authoritarianism came in all forms, and thus used his experience with Spain along with what he read and heard in Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russia, to create 1984
@@VicenteLopez-vy7nc Nope, you are confusing the broader nationalist front of spain with Falangism, Falagism was only 1 component of the front, in fact there were quite a few antonic groups mixed in there who's only universal constant was hatred/opposition to the commies that seized the republic, Franco was the only thing that held them toguether after the war was won and the reds were exiled, which is why he was one of the few dicators to plan a transition after his own death, he wanted the country to transition into an absolute monarchy, which is why he arranged for power to pass to Juan Carlos, but the future king did not want that so as soon as franco was out he started the transition to a parliamentary system.
Funny story, my great grandpa was sentenced to death because he saved a priest in his village from an angry mob, of which i dont remember which side it belonged to (i think republicans, he was one of them) (he was accused of treason i think) but then the charges were dropped because they realized how stupid that was
@@TheLordNovo You have no idea how brutal the Nationalists were. My grandma and great-grandpa were beaten to death by people like them. For being Jewish. So cool to be a Nationalist 👍
Even the phrase “democratically elected government” in reference to the Spanish Civil War is a bit misleading. The Popular Front was involved in a lot of violence and voter intimidation during the election, as well as being installed before the count was finished, allowing them to certify their own electoral victory. It’s still an open question among historians whether the Republicans actually won the 36’ election in terms of plurality of votes.
I know an old man who was a teenager during the Spanish Civil War. Actually haven't seen him in about a year so he may have passed away but he used to come into the store I work at and talk with me
Just want to mention what the nationalists did -before the civil war was even over they had purged 200k people that they admitted too. (Comparatively, the republican side killed 30k civilians, most being in the confusion of the first weeks) -they stripped basically any worker’s rights under the threat of a gun -they collaborated with the war effort of the fachists and sold out their Jewish population.
Looking through my family history I found a great grandparent and a great uncle? Hard to know exactly their title in relation to me. They and my family were from Spain originally. Anyways, one was murdered by the fascist because they thought he was a spy. He was a fisherman. Other was murdered by the communist because they thought he was helping the Pope somehow and the church directly. He was a carpenter. My great grandma and her sister fled To Texas through Portugal somehow and now I am a Texan. Very messy history to be sure
The liberals and communists where like "if we work together we might not all die" and the anarchists we're like nah fam were going to make it a three way war
@@beishtkione24 "Liberal" kind of lost it's meaning thanks to american politics calling every left winger "liberal". Actual liberals are right wing; what we are calling "liberals" here were actually people who supported social-democracy. Those are only liberal in the matters of society having liberty, while economy should gradually become state owned.
- POUM(stalinists) attacks the CNT-FAI (anarchists) because they represent a challamge to Stalins state ideology of Marxism-Leninism - This division leads to fascists having an easier time wining the war - *surprised pikachu face* - decades later and dumbass internet tankies blame the anarchists instead
Loyalist Vs Secessionist Most of the SJW hoard would be unironicaly loyalist/pro-establishment but identify They are the least likely to organise based on talent or Merritt but the most likely to have the backing of the state. Would be white leftists but have a taboo against appointing white general's so some may elect minorities who are double agents for other factions or just psychopaths. Ethnic gang's would be split between both sides depends on goals. Those wanting their own homogeneous country would fight the US I see black separationists establishing at least one defensible stronghold early in the war. An effort to funnel black nationalists into the stronghold would be supported by people who agreed with them and people who hate them. This concentrates the black nationalists into the new black state where they would be defending US efforts to retain the territory. White nationalists would be spread across various factions but would secretly support black nationalists(accelerationisim/propaganda victories) and openly endorse efforts to fight them(as enemies of the USA) but the more cunning ones would be supporting the black nationalists rebelling against the United States as that would be a fight between their 2 main potential rivals.
Indeed Unlike the War between the states a real civil war would result in countless atrocities by both sides instead of just by the government because both sides will view the others has traitors
Only was messy in the left side (not republicans, that is a historic mistake, in "right wing they were republicans too). Socialist, anarquists and comunist were arguing and not following instructions. The conservative side was controlles by a militar "Junta" and sometimes they coordinate their movements with Germany and Italy.
@@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq. they killed over 200k civilians before the civil war ended... and that's the ones they admitted too. The republicans fairly won the election, killed 30k civilians, and actually had workers rights.
@@theggfloupin4084 Everyone dies and the rest are trivialities; you have any relevant points or just the mewling aspirations of females and men who might as well be females?
Check out the Ukranian war of independence: Bolchevicks, Kiev independent goverment, White army, German Empire, Poland, anarchists, green armies (popular defense)
yall should watch land and freedom, not only a pretty great movie but also exposes why we lost the war, the fascists only had to preserve the status quo, the left instead had (and we still have) to beat them and plot the course of a new world, leading to an absurd ammount of militias and partys with different models of system, all together against those who supported the classic model of autocratic regime. Anarchists and commies (for example) who were supposed to fight together against fascism ended up fighting each other while the nacionalists kept going on
In a way, Franco "betraying" everyone after they won saved Spain from having a second civil war. Heck, let's not forget that besides the very distinct monarchists, there were also the falangists, which supported a government similar to fascism
@@jonathanwilliams1065 Yea but it was essentially a proxy war but with a really weird team setup. On one side you have France, UK, West Germany and China fighting against US and USSR on the other side. Like, US and USSR being allies in the middle of the cold war? Plus, Israel fought on both sides and Vatican was allegedly involved as well. 👀
I didn't know I wanted to see a 3 year old command the forces fighting in a civil war. But hey, I finished finals yesterday so I've got nothing but time. Let's see what homegirl's got!
That wouldn’t have done it justice. The Spanish civil war was a brutal civil war. It wasn’t of a side vs other side but more of a free for all each one fighting or teaming. If you want a good basis on the Spanish civil war I recommend CallMeEzekiel video on it
Republicans couldnt find a uniting ethos other than "we want change but not the same as the nationalists", nationalist side pretty much went "look we all like Franco so either he comes in or we also tear each other apart", so Franco came in.
Nationalists were more like "at least we're all Christian and traditionalists so let's beat the leftists first and we'll figure the rest out later" and that later was a Franco purge to any serious opposition he may have had. The Republicans on the other hand were like a Mexican standoff between Anarchists, Authoritarians (communists),Liberals and some rebels that just wanted to create their own nation separate from Spain
My great grandpa took part in the spanish civil war under the condor Legion wich was a force of the german army that aised Franco, could you talk about the condor legion in a video i think its really interesting since it was the german armys test for ww2, and of course since an ancestor of mine took part in it.
Our civil war was the playground of Russia, Germany, France and the UK to measure the efficiency of their weaponry in the upcoming WW2. Kind of like Ukraine nowadays before WW3.
Not just that but the weapons used are messy too,one uses some old rigidity biplane then one uses the bf109,some uses a tiger tank some uses a Renault ft 17
Because Spain was devastated after the war, which ended moths before ww2. Although Franco was Axis leaning, Spain was neutral/non belligerent to avoid damaging an already destroyed countrie
@@enalche2 Franco was not Axis leaning or Allies leaning, he disliked both sides Franco could have let Hitler Win by simply and easily blocking Gibraltar This would have made the African campaign a lot easier for Hitler and he would have got to the oil fields in Iraq meaning that his soviet Union invasion would have been a success
you're missing out on the end game here, by the end of the civil war all left leaning factions had been pushed out by radicals from anarchists to Stalin supported communists which the later eventually overthrew the more liberal parts of the faction. This was also because the USSR gave the most by far in terms of equipment, support, advisors, and exerted the most political "influence" if you can call it that. I'm not as certain of the other side since it's not as well documented and easily accessible but I know this happened and that they marched new international volunteers directly from their flights into the front lines in the cities they landed in, no weapons, no training just cannon fodder.
I know it wasn’t supposed to be there but if you are interested in geography and military but can’t play games like HOI4 the ad alternative shown there conflict of nations ww3 is very good
Hey all watch the video with my daughter controlling the civil war here ruclips.net/video/fTbRv-qqgZA/видео.html
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Your videos are probably one of my favorite things to watch on RUclips I love how you fact check yourself and Highlight the complexity of the topics that you are speaking about. Honestly I can't think of anything better than watching your shorts and your videos on adult afternoon keep making the content and I'll keep watching.
@@dubz3r062 thank you my friend
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my grandpa was Republican, he was captured and changed sides to the Nationalists and just spent his days wasting as much ammo uselessly as he could.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco
The thing about civil wars is that they are anything but civil.........
Axel Rose said the same thing years ago. Wunderslashen would agree. 😊
Yes, with globalization that term it's obsolete
The closest thing there was to a civil civil war was the American one
"What's so civil about war anyways?"
@@rwb5749 I for one, don’t need your civil war. No no no.
Wait until you see the Russian civil war belligerents
The greens were the only good ones😂
@@talktoomemoose7686 the ones that killed most people though...
@@talktoomemoose7686 I personally like the blacks because they had a cool aesthetic.
At least the Russians were kind enough to color code themselves
When your country is so big, your civil war became World War 1.5
The beginning of Hoi4, every single time, no matter what:
Every mod ever made for the game man
@@explosivereactionstv7414 it’s how you measure the quality of the mod, how many sides does the civil war have
Yes
@@Souledexif it has Russian civil war comparable sides, is it good?
The republicans hardly need outside assistance to lose…
What's funny about that war is that anarchists, communists, and socialists didn't even ally themselves, one account tells us of the time a communist city asked an anarchist town for goods and they just said no
In my town the anarchists just deposed the mayor (who was a socialist ) and did a lot of nasty things .
@@ismaelguzman8256In my town republican political forces fought with nationalist forces to fight anarchists.
@@ismaelguzman8256 Let me guess, it's "they killed a bunch of priests", to which I say, yeah no shit they openly collaborated with the nationalists.
Not only were there Spanish nationalists in the National side, but also localist traditionalists from Navarre and the Basque Country.
Franco is often seen as a dumb little man, but the dude managed to unite nationalists, localists, fascists, syndicalists and the Church under his Falange de las JONS. These groups would have had no trouble killing each other if the others didn't exist.
The Republicans didn't have a unifying figure like that, and entire fronts were led by political groups who refused to listen to the government too often, like the anarchists in Aragon or the famous Barcelona in-fighting later in the war.
not only is this prevelant in Spain, but many Spanish speaking countries.
Not only did he unite them, he literally became one of the youngest generals in Spanish history with only 33 years old
Having the Carlists sided with the Nationals and the Anarchists with the Republicans was just the tip of the iceberg
In my town a falangist stayed with republican forces and was killed by nationalists.
A lot of the murders during the Spanish civil war would be under accusations of being a communist or a fascist, but specially in villages these were mostly vague claims and real reasons could be as petty as disputes over who’s terrain was whose and payback over discussions actually happened
Spanish Civil War: Communists and fascists from other countries are getting involved, churches are being burned, labor unions bombed, surrender disregarded, prisoners tortured and civilians targeted.
Stakuyi: Messy.
So basically the Beta server for WW2
@@mrgopnik5964 Lol, accurate. Furthermore I’ve heard historians refer to the Spanish War of Succession as a Pre-WWI. So in that sense Spain has always been a sort of war lab for the rest of Europe.
@@lorcostridge2811 Spanish war of succesion happened in 1700-1713, WWI started in 1914
@@josegancedo9831 pre means "before",not "just before"
@@davidvazquez1014 Yes, but a 200 year difference in between them and different countries involved in the war with very different warfare technology means both wars have little in common.
Here in spain,almost everyone has a grandad dad fought in the civil war
Or a great grandfather
I hope they're doing ok
@@weomxd theirs aleast 9 Spanish Civil War vets left
Not true, it would be your great grandfather
I'm in America and I have a great grandfather. He left Spain afterwards lmao
Imagine being Portugal during all this...
They were the Spanish who made an empire.
Well Portugal supported the nationalists during the civil war.
@@ellisdee5304 wat?
@@counterfan90 Portugal is just West Spain
@@ellisdee5304 Then Spain is east Portugal.
Modern day spanish left wingers try to always depict the spanish civil war as a conflict between democrats and fascists but the dark truth is that each side had factions inside them that hated each other and at some point tried to kill each other to take full control over their own side while they were still fighting against the other side.
This phenom was much more common on the republican side and was one of the biggest factors of its defeat.
The spanish civil war started as a fascist military coup against a democratic government tho. The spanish communist party (PCE) was a minor force at the start of the war, but they became stronger since
1) they had a lot of soviet help
2) their militias were disciplined (more discipline = more likely to win = more volunteers, no one wants to fight for a losing commander) while other groups like the anarchists didn't had any.
Le recomiendo que lea la Constitución de la II República. Sepa usted que todos los procesos electorales de la II República fueron falseados. Largo Caballero , líder del PSOE, declaró que prefería la guerra civil a la democracia. Durante la guerra civil , el gobierno del Frente Popular negoció con el III Reich y con el Duce la entrega de Baleares y Canarias, si dejaban de ayudar al general Franco. @@samirnodormir3097
@@samirnodormir3097anda a mentir a otro lado, pinocho 🤣
@@samirnodormir3097 Franco did nothing wrong
@@pseudochadio welp, he was born, we could start with that
"If I had understood the situation a bit better I probably should have joined the Anarchists" - George Orwell
Orwell was a real one 🙏
@@hanneslundin346 No, If there was global anarchy, you wouldnt sit in your warm home typing that now
@@sejozwak true, but also I would be killing people for loot so that's the bonus. Blood for the blood god.
@@elroma7712 Or they would be killing you for food.
@@sejozwakthere’s a difference between absolute anarchy and the removal of all hierarchy
Never ask
A woman her age
A man his salary
The anarchist what did they do to nuns
"Why would the church side against us!?"
These monarch-legitimizers deserved worse lmao
Arriba Espana
@@DoggyBingBong
Which "Espana"? The one ruled by "effective managers" and where if you even slightly think about getting rights as a worker you would be shot and/or beaten up, while most of the population didn't even know their alphabet?
@@throwfascistsintopits3062 the one that didn’t promise to destroy Spanish culture. Additionally, the national syndicalists gave the workers the rights an autonomy that the communists could only dream of.
I actually saw a really interesting movie that takes place during the Spanish Civil War. It's called 'There Be Dragons' it talks about the war and the founding of the Catholic Group opus dei.
Where does the "here be dragons" thing actually come from? I hear this phrase and variations all the time
@@joko2882 I think its supposed to represent the unknown. Which makes sense since no one new what was going to happen during that time in history. You had the entire world change dramatically from 1850 to 1950 that it was hard to think that we had been living nearly the same way for centuries and then we just shot forward technology wise that it was like living in the future.
Just for letting you know, that movie was financially supported by Opus Dei, they are a religious sect and it's not historically accurate, also it has a very subjective point of view. It's not the best movie to understand the Spanish Civil War.
@@elsenordesayuno6942 Didn't know it was funded by them. And I figured it wasn't that accurate but it was still an interesting watch. Honestly when it comes to most Catholic church stuff I take it with a large grain of salt. Main reason I was interest is because it had the oldest son from Yellowstone in it.
IS THAT A CATHOLIC MILITARY GROUP
THIS IS FU**ING BADASS
So you're saying it was a real life battle Royale? But for real, I think that's one the main reasons the nationalists won, having better unity.
And the aid from the fascis Germany and Italy
While the Republicans only got a fewer tanks and weapons from the USSR and not free
@@lauramonjas3131also The USSR stipulated that the POUM should fight the anarcho-syndicalists because stabbing non-authoritarian Socialists is all they really knew what to do
I mean, Franco had most of the army (except the navy) by his side, especially the African Army as they had the most experience and basically captured western Spain by themselves.
@@wevon8233 the nationalist only control around 30%-35% of the army and a big amount of that around 20% was the african army that was isolated during the first half of the conflict unable to move to the peninsular side
From 150 generals of the spanish army only around 20 were in the nationalist side (but around half of the loyals were remove or degraded for political and trust problems)
the nationalist win because they were more unite and because they have better officials quality (this was no only because the nationalist control one of two militar academy for officials but also because the republican side dowgrade a lot of officials for political reasons and the upgraded were more for political ideologic reasons than meritocratic)
@@mastrey Franco had 800000 men under his control, this is not counting foreign volunteers that weren't there at the start of the war, and the Republicans had about 700000 in the beginning. These exact numbers may be wrong so feel free to correct me, but these numbers feel like around 50% whent to both sides. You are right about the unity, and quality of officers, but their victory can also be attributed to Republican incompetence, not just disunity. Like a good portion of the loyalist army were untrained militias, and the government didn't exactly help by being subservient to the soviets, like at a time they were more focused on transferring their gold reserves to Russia and on arresting anarchists than fighting the Nationalists.
Because you are in the subject of the Spanish civil war there's a story I hope you talk about it is the story of Melchor Rodríguez García also know as the red Angel he was the last mayor of Madrid before the francoists and the falangists took over although he was an anarchist he pardoned hundreds of fascists that were going to be sentenced to execution which prevented his own execution but during the military junta he passed away in 1972 he was the only anarchist that was allowed to have a public funeral and he was buried with an anarchist flag.
The fascists had honor, melchor had mercy.
@@kh2375.2 thats why franco betrayed both the falangists and the carlists for the sake of power? Thats what honor is?
@@takiss1016Franco didn,y betray them ..
Probably the best rapresentation of the Spanish Civil War is a normal hoi4 playtrough with historical ai off
Finally someone who gets the spanish civil war properly . Props to u @stayuki
I see why Spain would turn to fascism because Republic of Spain at the time had multiple different parties.
Fun Fact:
It was this experience from fighting in Spain, that gave George Orwell the inspiration to write his most famous novel of all time, the classic dystopian novel of 1984.
What? No it wasn't, that's just bad history. Orwell said he specifically modelled Ingsoc on Stalinist Russia
@@CodaMission Yes, along with his experience fighting in Spain, when he was part of the International brigade to help the Republic, but once the Republican side became fractured due to infighting, he learned that authoritarianism came in all forms, and thus used his experience with Spain along with what he read and heard in Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russia, to create 1984
@@TheKnowledgeMan101 Orwell never once said the civil war was an inspiration for 1984. Put up a source or stop saying it
Falangists specificalky are pretty interesting, it's basically right leasing syndicalism.
They always claim to be that, then, next thing you know, worker unions are shut down and striking is no longer a citizen's right
And hatred towards the others. And bigotism. And ultraviolent nationalism. There was nothing cool about Falangism, Franco or Sanjurjo
Mixed with ultracatholic overtones and a lot of fascism
Aren't all forms of fascism Right-wing syndicalism?
@@VicenteLopez-vy7nc Nope, you are confusing the broader nationalist front of spain with Falangism, Falagism was only 1 component of the front, in fact there were quite a few antonic groups mixed in there who's only universal constant was hatred/opposition to the commies that seized the republic, Franco was the only thing that held them toguether after the war was won and the reds were exiled, which is why he was one of the few dicators to plan a transition after his own death, he wanted the country to transition into an absolute monarchy, which is why he arranged for power to pass to Juan Carlos, but the future king did not want that so as soon as franco was out he started the transition to a parliamentary system.
did you know Molotov cocktails were first used in the Spanish civil war
yes, although at the time they were just referred to as incendiary projectiles, they didn’t get their distinctive and iconic name till the winter war.
TBF, I think people lit bottles of alcohol on fire since the inception of distillation to make alcohol potent enough to burn
@@NoFluprobably
Funny story, my great grandpa was sentenced to death because he saved a priest in his village from an angry mob, of which i dont remember which side it belonged to (i think republicans, he was one of them) (he was accused of treason i think) but then the charges were dropped because they realized how stupid that was
Def republicans since they were the ones raping nuns
Pro communist forces try not to kill their own people challenge (impossible)
He got EXTREMELY lucky. They 99% of the time would have killed him
@@TheLordNovo You have no idea how brutal the Nationalists were. My grandma and great-grandpa were beaten to death by people like them. For being Jewish. So cool to be a Nationalist 👍
@@TheVoodooMaker I have an ample idea of their efficacy. Viva Cristo Rey
Even the phrase “democratically elected government” in reference to the Spanish Civil War is a bit misleading. The Popular Front was involved in a lot of violence and voter intimidation during the election, as well as being installed before the count was finished, allowing them to certify their own electoral victory.
It’s still an open question among historians whether the Republicans actually won the 36’ election in terms of plurality of votes.
Huh, seems to be between the Fascists and Communists for a while now
Don't forget the anarchists, social Democrats and syndicalists
Cara al Sol intensifies...
Better yet, Marcha de Oriamendi!!
I know an old man who was a teenager during the Spanish Civil War. Actually haven't seen him in about a year so he may have passed away but he used to come into the store I work at and talk with me
Remember what the republicans/anarchists did to nuns and priests? I do.
Just want to mention what the nationalists did
-before the civil war was even over they had purged 200k people that they admitted too. (Comparatively, the republican side killed 30k civilians, most being in the confusion of the first weeks)
-they stripped basically any worker’s rights under the threat of a gun
-they collaborated with the war effort of the fachists and sold out their Jewish population.
Yeah truly sad and how they blasphemed Holy days
Literally creating their own enemies.... Huh, sounds familiar.
I remember Guernica and the masacre of La Desbandada too
Remember what Priests did to preschool children?
Spain trying not to have a civil war (impossible)
Spain: indestructible autodestructive nation
Looking through my family history I found a great grandparent and a great uncle? Hard to know exactly their title in relation to me. They and my family were from Spain originally. Anyways, one was murdered by the fascist because they thought he was a spy. He was a fisherman. Other was murdered by the communist because they thought he was helping the Pope somehow and the church directly. He was a carpenter. My great grandma and her sister fled To Texas through Portugal somehow and now I am a Texan.
Very messy history to be sure
Woah Paldea was crazy
Could you teach about sgt stubby
I always wondered why 4 factions spawned during the Spanish Civil War on hoi4
The liberals and communists where like "if we work together we might not all die" and the anarchists we're like nah fam were going to make it a three way war
No the anarchists were willing to cooperate, they just took the opportunity to erect their own structures.
Liberals and communists on the same side. War makes for strange bedfellows.
@@beishtkione24 "Liberal" kind of lost it's meaning thanks to american politics calling every left winger "liberal". Actual liberals are right wing; what we are calling "liberals" here were actually people who supported social-democracy. Those are only liberal in the matters of society having liberty, while economy should gradually become state owned.
@@braziliantsar I'm taking it back!
- POUM(stalinists) attacks the CNT-FAI (anarchists) because they represent a challamge to Stalins state ideology of Marxism-Leninism
- This division leads to fascists having an easier time wining the war
- *surprised pikachu face*
- decades later and dumbass internet tankies blame the anarchists instead
Yes it was messy, but also no surprise the church and monarchists sided with fascists
Fun fact there wasnt actually an anarchist uprising that fought both the nationalists and the republicans indiscriminately in aragon(shocking)
People really should read up on the Spanish Civil War because that's what the 2nd US Civil War will look like.
That or literally every Mexican civil war.
Loyalist Vs Secessionist
Most of the SJW hoard would be unironicaly loyalist/pro-establishment but identify
They are the least likely to organise based on talent or Merritt but the most likely to have the backing of the state.
Would be white leftists but have a taboo against appointing white general's so some may elect minorities who are double agents for other factions or just psychopaths.
Ethnic gang's would be split between both sides depends on goals.
Those wanting their own homogeneous country would fight the US I see black separationists establishing at least one defensible stronghold early in the war.
An effort to funnel black nationalists into the stronghold would be supported by people who agreed with them and people who hate them.
This concentrates the black nationalists into the new black state where they would be defending US efforts to retain the territory.
White nationalists would be spread across various factions but would secretly support black nationalists(accelerationisim/propaganda victories) and openly endorse efforts to fight them(as enemies of the USA)
but the more cunning ones would be supporting the black nationalists rebelling against the United States as that would be a fight between their 2 main potential rivals.
Indeed
Unlike the War between the states a real civil war would result in countless atrocities by both sides instead of just by the government because both sides will view the others has traitors
George Orwell brought me here.
Great short analysis
Only was messy in the left side (not republicans, that is a historic mistake, in "right wing they were republicans too). Socialist, anarquists and comunist were arguing and not following instructions.
The conservative side was controlles by a militar "Junta" and sometimes they coordinate their movements with Germany and Italy.
That is the cutest warmonger I've ever seen
It’s history. Don’t show your ignorance so blatantly
@@AntiFurry927 I think you got the wrong comment, m8
@@oilimenoruega7836 how is he warmongering?
@@AntiFurry927 I was talking about his daughter
@@oilimenoruega7836 oh💀
The Dress Rehearsal for World War Two.
Except the good and bad sides were switched
Franco won because he had Liberty Prime on his side.
Thank God the Nationalists won!
… just no.
@@theggfloupin4084
Yes, actually.
@@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq. they killed over 200k civilians before the civil war ended... and that's the ones they admitted too.
The republicans fairly won the election, killed 30k civilians, and actually had workers rights.
@@theggfloupin4084
Everyone dies and the rest are trivialities; you have any relevant points or just the mewling aspirations of females and men who might as well be females?
@@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq. oh so murder is ok now beccause evryone dies
If life doesnt matter you can commit suicide
Check out the Ukranian war of independence: Bolchevicks, Kiev independent goverment, White army, German Empire, Poland, anarchists, green armies (popular defense)
Green armies were in Russia not in Ukraine
yall should watch land and freedom, not only a pretty great movie but also exposes why we lost the war, the fascists only had to preserve the status quo, the left instead had (and we still have) to beat them and plot the course of a new world, leading to an absurd ammount of militias and partys with different models of system, all together against those who supported the classic model of autocratic regime. Anarchists and commies (for example) who were supposed to fight together against fascism ended up fighting each other while the nacionalists kept going on
Yeah, the left was much more disorganised
CNT my beautiful king
It is a total mess even I got confused too quickly
Viva la FAI!
Of course, only iberian people can be anarchists, we are the most intelligent race.
@@hispalismapping155 Bro what the fuck are you talking about
Y la CNT!
Arriba España!
VIVA CRISTO REY
ARRIBA ESPAÑA
ADELANTE ESPAÑA
I really wonder how multiple monarchist factions got along. Like they know in the end only one claimant can be king 😂
In a way, Franco "betraying" everyone after they won saved Spain from having a second civil war. Heck, let's not forget that besides the very distinct monarchists, there were also the falangists, which supported a government similar to fascism
Still easier to wrap your head around then the HRE
"nO pAsaRan" - 🤓
Pasaron 🗿
@@tacatacatv7557 No puedo garantizarlo
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meanwhile Nigerian Civil War : AMATEURS
Wasn’t that just Biafra fighting for independence?
@@jonathanwilliams1065 Yea but it was essentially a proxy war but with a really weird team setup. On one side you have France, UK, West Germany and China fighting against US and USSR on the other side. Like, US and USSR being allies in the middle of the cold war? Plus, Israel fought on both sides and Vatican was allegedly involved as well. 👀
In Spanish civil war you also have Civil war in civil war especially in Republicans👁️👄👁️
And not alot of people know about this in America 😂😂😂
Hoi4 eat your heart out
Dang even the islands were in civil war
Didn’t they find a bunch of preserved brains from the Spanish civil war recently?
I didn't know I wanted to see a 3 year old command the forces fighting in a civil war. But hey, I finished finals yesterday so I've got nothing but time. Let's see what homegirl's got!
Spin more like pain
Someone needs to make an anime of the Spanish Civil War pronto, I need something to scratch that FMA: Brotherhood itch
Go outside
That wouldn’t have done it justice. The Spanish civil war was a brutal civil war. It wasn’t of a side vs other side but more of a free for all each one fighting or teaming. If you want a good basis on the Spanish
civil war I recommend CallMeEzekiel video on it
Messy and brutal. very VERY brutal on each side
So *that’s* why that one DLC works the way it does in HOI4
The good guys won that one
The ones nobody voted for?
@@francescotierno2756 Ah yes, because of course the spanish elections were very clean
@@braziliantsar A rigged election doesn't make you better nor justifies you if you yourself are an autocrat who kills his own people
@@braziliantsar They were clean. Not as clean as today standard, but they were.
Even cleaner than today's Brazil. I suppose that you are from Brazil.
Here in Spain we are happy that Franco died, the only thing that we regret is that we didnt kill him
Mine Were of Trouble. Peter Kemps Spanish Civil war memoir? I hear many people talking about it!
Republicans couldnt find a uniting ethos other than "we want change but not the same as the nationalists", nationalist side pretty much went "look we all like Franco so either he comes in or we also tear each other apart", so Franco came in.
actually not many people liked Franco, but most of the other leaders died and so he was the only one left
@@acusticamenteconvusional9936 everyone liked Franco enough to accept him. For a leader, it is better to be liked by most than loved by few
Nationalists were more like "at least we're all Christian and traditionalists so let's beat the leftists first and we'll figure the rest out later" and that later was a Franco purge to any serious opposition he may have had. The Republicans on the other hand were like a Mexican standoff between Anarchists, Authoritarians (communists),Liberals and some rebels that just wanted to create their own nation separate from Spain
one of the only wars were the good guys actually won
You mean the colonialists with their frequent wars were eventually defeated.
@@tritium1998?
Why the hell did you say “democratically elected government” between quotation marks???
Because... It's not really a democratic victory
the right people won
Thank god the allies
@@manuelromano5233the nationalists
@@manuelromano5233in both wars the good guys won in Western Europe
Sadly Poland got screwed in the East by Hitler’s former best friend
My great grandpa took part in the spanish civil war under the condor Legion wich was a force of the german army that aised Franco, could you talk about the condor legion in a video i think its really interesting since it was the german armys test for ww2, and of course since an ancestor of mine took part in it.
Hero
@@ΚωνσταντίνοςΠαπαναστασίου-υ8σ Excuse me wtf
@@dogehkiindogeborn5339 His grandfather is a hero who beat Republican dogs
@@egertroos1691 more like a war criminal
La legion condor, conocidos por hacer los mayores crimenes de guerra jamas vistos en España
Viva nationalistas Viva franco
ARRIBA ESPAÑA
Return of the Spanish Inquisition.
Our civil war was the playground of Russia, Germany, France and the UK to measure the efficiency of their weaponry in the upcoming WW2. Kind of like Ukraine nowadays before WW3.
Not just that but the weapons used are messy too,one uses some old rigidity biplane then one uses the bf109,some uses a tiger tank some uses a Renault ft 17
I don't think they had Tiger tanks during the Spanish Civil War. More like Panzer 1s
The conflict start before
I'm on the side of rightnesses. And you know what side that is.
Thank God nationalists won
Syrian civil war: bet 😏
Messi was in the spanish civil war?
Right wing unity lets f*cking GOOOOOOOO
Raising them right 🫡
"The republicans hardly need any help to lose."
You forgot about carlists.
Aka me learned spanish civil war from hoi4
He mentioned them
Is this is why Spain was neutral on ww the sequel
Because Spain was devastated after the war, which ended moths before ww2. Although Franco was Axis leaning, Spain was neutral/non belligerent to avoid damaging an already destroyed countrie
@@enalche2
Franco was not Axis leaning or Allies leaning, he disliked both sides
Franco could have let Hitler Win by simply and easily blocking Gibraltar
This would have made the African campaign a lot easier for Hitler and he would have got to the oil fields in Iraq meaning that his soviet Union invasion would have been a success
EL gráfico de fondo es erróneo. Barcelona nunca fue la capital, lo fueron Madrid y posteriormente Valencia.
Don’t worry I know all about the Spanish civil war. I’m a hoi4 player!
Spain yeah woooh. FUCK YEAH SPAIN RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Franco gang
Soy explosivo 👉👈
Real Carlist hours
The Syria of Europe
Day 12 of asking: Can you talk about the Raggamuffin War?
¡Vamos Messi, campeon del mundo!
This is why the American civil war is good, because it was much cleaner cut.
Why can’t we just have two sided civil wars again?
Even then, it’s not as black-and-white as most people think it is, there was lotta complicated issues leading up to the war
@@0944clayton hey, atleast at the end of the day, there was only two combatants.
The confederates were about to get big help from the french, but they got stopped just enough time in Mexico
@@0944clayton"i want slavery" "No" thats how complicated American Civil War is xd
@@joaquinrodriguez227 no not even close it’s way more complicated than that
you're missing out on the end game here, by the end of the civil war all left leaning factions had been pushed out by radicals from anarchists to Stalin supported communists which the later eventually overthrew the more liberal parts of the faction. This was also because the USSR gave the most by far in terms of equipment, support, advisors, and exerted the most political "influence" if you can call it that.
I'm not as certain of the other side since it's not as well documented and easily accessible but I know this happened and that they marched new international volunteers directly from their flights into the front lines in the cities they landed in, no weapons, no training just cannon fodder.
I bet you his daughter ruled much better than most modern leaders 😂
I know it wasn’t supposed to be there but if you are interested in geography and military but can’t play games like HOI4 the ad alternative shown there conflict of nations ww3 is very good
wait till you see lebanon