Harrowing scenes in Soweto this morning as 14 people have been shot and killed at a tavern in Orlando. eNCA reporter Nqobile Madlala is on the scene. #DStv403
tf! The level of irrationality you need to have to think that they died because they were not at church smh. Are not aware of people have been mascaraed in churches, mosques, synagogues and other religious gatherings around the world? This has nothing to do with religiosity. It is just an unfortunate event that happened to those victims. Leave your religious beliefs out of it. When it's your time to die, death will find you no matter where you are tbh
@@ARationalObserver coming to God doesn't mean mosques or synagogues or what ever all other things you've mentioned. Coming to God is giving your heart to Jesus Christ to be your Lord and Savior, and be born-again. From then on you live for Him. That's the real definition of "coming to God".
@@m.x.refrigxolani8365 tell that to a Muslim or Jew, or any other religion if Jesus Christ is god and lets hear what the response will be. They certainly don't believe that. What makes your religious claims more valid than theirs? Sorry to break it to you bud but your religious claims have not been demonstrated to be true to any reasonable standard unless you would like to have the discussion of course. Don't take it personally though, I don't just think your religion is bunk and unproven but all the others as well. AND if you were born in the middle east you most likely would have been a Muslim, in japan you would've been a secularist, In India you would've been a Hindu. Isn't it funny how everyone seems to be born into the right religion? Please answer diligently and do go off on tangents
@@ARationalObserver this is is what makes the claims of Jesus valid . Jesus said to his disciples But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you. And you will be my witnesses, telling people about me everywhere-in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” Acts of the Apostles 1:8
True brother, very true, and the sad part is that no matter how much we could try to intervene and have new firearms laws and so forth the guns always find their way to the wrong hands we have one of the strictest fire arms laws in the world but when the law enforcement and state have to enforce it they seem to have people inside who don't do their jobs or are on the payroll of the perpetrators and also not only in South Africa are these massacres happening, even in the United States there's mass shootings and the citizens have raised the issue of stricter firearms laws and unfortunately despite that the shootings still happened💔💔💔
@@manqobavincentjrmnguni6856 Nonsense, an armed society is a polite society. People should be allowed to own firearms so that they can defend themselves. The gun is not the problem here. Its like blaming cars for accidents and wanting to ban cars. Cars kill more people than guns, so lets ban cars!
In this country there are more opportunities for kids to get inside an unsafe tavern than to get into a library, sports or computer center. Their parents are also forced to work day & night to make ends meet in this hell of an economy.
@@lisitashamatutu1140 Agree. What do you suggest to do to radically reduce crime in our country? Should we fight fire with fire or stick to old policies that seems to favour criminals
This is really sad.. Taverns are becoming death-traps in SA. This is what happens when criminals serve sentences that don't fit the crime. You commit murder and get sentenced to 15 years but serve only 7 years 6 months because you have succeeded in pretending that you've been rehabilitated. But anyway.. Condolences to all the families whose loved ones fell victim to this horrendous and barbaric incident.
Why is it that other races always blames black people whenever they complain and they bring the '' ur government '' speech which by the way some of them do benefit from?? just because I'm black doesn't mean that I voted/support ANC or speak Zulu and the list go on.... Really now its getting old already...
Yeh bro I work at correctional services department 99%of hardcore criminals once they get parole they commit more and more crimes there is nothing scary about prison its a semi hotel there with top service delivery to our clients/offenders
@@hellonomasonto It's not science to know how the black nation vote. I'm Anc. Anc keeps them poor & influence them with Sassa grants. Most of that grants are for the black uneducated. They can't get jobs. But they grow up amongst low class people and spend 50% or more of their money on alcohol. It's their god. They have free housing. Dont pay income taxes. So again. Vote the Anc out & things will go better. CT is DA. They create work there. They can do it for all of SA. Good luck bro.
Yes, this is a sad situation, we can safely say that there are more illegal guns in this country that legal guns. How do criminals get there hands on these weapons. Defending ourselves and our families seems more of a crime than the crime criminals commit. Whistle blowers also have to live in fear of reprisals.
@@garffieldiscool1163 exactly and we are slowly becoming USA. We cannot say that people must stop going to tarvens. People are getting shot at school..this is a global issue that needs to be addressed. We can't be living like this.
This tactic has been used on the black SA by the whites and still doing it. The enemy is within. They pay a lot of money to the poor black SA to do these things to their own community. Every man has a price.
This has got nothing to do with prayer and all sorts of things. This has to do with parents. Parents should intervene in this. Parents are the once who allowing these kids to go out and drink the whole night especially in paces like tarvens. After what happened in EC (Enyobeni) tarven and now this. People are not responsible of their lives.
South africa is the home of devil 😈 la akazibuka khona imithetho yalelizwe yiyo le ebhedayo kugcwele ama tarven kodwa kumele ngabe kugcwele izikole zemfundo
Since the 70s whenever a person speaks on international media whether live or recorded, theres ALWAYS a translator. Why can't South African media do the same?
This is why i hate crowded places especially in the town ship. At night you always Hear gun shots and people always carry weapons (guns and knifes) at taverns and pubs. Stay away from such places in the town ship you are never safe.
These people are creating havoc to stray us away from real issues …and it’s sad bcos this comes at a high price for the victims and families . There are people in high power positions who are encouraging this events of unrest RIP to our siblings again💔
Guys the problem is not about the tarvens rather the law. We're leaving in a country where governments inability to govern affects its itizema wellbeing. This is the laws issue not the business issue (tarvens). Does our government capable of investigating, arresting and sentence the perpetrators? This issue is very simple you can see it has its roots from KZN and you might find that it's a taxi war from back home.
@@freedomchitake5552 very simple bro through voting nothing else. This government is not for the people it is for the leaders since their interest is not us citizens rather their financial and personal.
@@freedomchitake5552 there will forever be crime bro the problem is the government n its system (corruption) that continue to affect our lives daily and this simply shows that this current government is not cabable to lead us
Stay safe South Africans, we are under siege. Condolences to the affected families, relatives, friends, communities and to all my fellow South Africans. May all the deceased RIP.
The thing is alcohol regulations in SA is not tight this such are happening over and over some tarven operation without license any one is doing what they like even if is children they don't as long as they making money who to blame here sellers government parents police community l think everybody must work together here to stop this trust me 🤞🇿🇦
Crime has now became a norm... The government really need to do something about tightening the laws on this country, South Africa is now falling apart...... The duty and the main objective of the constitution is to serve & protect the citizens of this country. Condolences to all family members !!
Direct result of corruption. Look how mighty and strong the Russian propaganda told us. Yet they fail miserably due to corruption. A fine example they are of corruption. Now use the same eyes and look at any state entity. That is the cancer that led to unnecessary lives lost in most unfortunate circumstances. That angers me bitterly in the deepest depths of my soul.
My heartfelt condolences to all family and friends of the deceased and injured fighting for their lives. And not a word spoken by Ramaphosa on this horrific 2nd tavern tragedy. (from New Zealand)
A nationwide ban on all onsite alcohol licenses. Convert all licenses to offsite alcohol consumption(take away )... There's too many tavern related tragic deaths lately
that is not the problem , the problem is a culture that glorifies violence , drunkenness , entitlement , envy , theft , you don't improve the man by taking away the temptation , you negate the temptation by improving the man , and here is someone who teaches that so well , ruclips.net/video/ERj3QeGw9Ok/видео.html
I am so sorry for the families and friends of the deceased. May God Almighty, comfort and strengthen you to deal with your pain in Jesus name. Such sadness and heartache.
I am sorry, with tears in my eyes, first all those children and now these people. Its as if taverns are being targeted. Please can someone in SA do something about crime in the country, it has got out of hand ages ago. Obviously Cele and co have not done their job of protecting their citizens and should stand down from their positions
Thr whole if ANC must go this country is falling to shit cele and the whole cop force must go We need a brand new policy force what we have today are absolutely disgusting and useless to the core
@@thesherrifgoesdownunder6150 shut up man before 1994 it was the uprising [ When the white cops opened fire on young people/ students] , Sharpville massacre ect remember ? Corny ass!
@@oK-wc8nj before 94 ...plenty of jobs,plenty of electricity, plenty police (real police),lowest crime rates in 30years and strongest rand in 30years...we can be here all day..
@Brazil petrol Man stop being political once in a lifetime and be a human being. This is abt families tht have lost their loved ones not this kak u wanna talk abt so pls take it somewhere 🙏
@Brazil petrol Man as for Zulu ppl having tribalism and killing ppl i 100% agree wth but now if u look closely those ppl who lost their lives most of them are Zulus so wht do u have to say abt tht one?
There is serious need to check these Tarvens safety and security or else they close! Most victims definitely are teenagers. As a parent myself its not possible to stop these kids to go to such places wen u find 5 tarvens in 1 street.. Its a death trap for kids!
It is not all about Taverns, I think is about the gatherings. They need a lot of us dead. It can happen everywhere. Just to finish us South African in our own land. The motive behind is so huge
retenwe bathong cele atlise masole batle go tabola matlakala ba latlhele ko atshwanetseng bathong ons is moeg man retshwanetse re phele jaana NO aromele masole [ gaa batla legone]🤮
Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long; they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others. But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah. The greatest among you will be your servant. For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted". YOU SHALL NOT MAKE FOR YOURSELF AN IMAGE in the form of anything, in Heaven above or in the Earth beneath, or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them, or worship them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents, up to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me, and keep my commandments. If my people who are called by my name, humble themselves and pray, AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS, I will hear from Heaven, will forgive their sins, and will heal their land. AND WHEN YOU PRAY DO NOT BE LIKE THE HYPOCRITES, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners, to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. BUT WHEN YOU PRAY, GO INTO YOUR ROOM, close the door, and pray to your Father who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need, before you ask him. This, then, is how you should pray: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us today our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins. "Matthew 5-7 NIV Bible Gateway", we can use google search. These are the teachings, The Righteousness of our Lord Jesus Christ our God. REPENT, and start doing what is right. If you abide my teachings, you are really my disciples; then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in Truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. GOD IS SPIRIT, so his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in Truth. In the New Heaven and the New Earth, only Righteousness dwells. May the Spirit of our Lord Jesus Christ our God be with you all.
Condolences to the families, sad day, unfortunately we live in a now lawless country, run by a lawless government intent on driving personal agendas, a corrupt police force who can do nothing about the crime because of criminal forces within. Eish
Guns in the hands of the wrong people, i for one am of the opinion that bad people irrespective of guns, knives or a damn piece of rope around their victim's neck , the BAD people are the problem. Allow guns , tanks , anything but ban BAD people, remove bad people from our society not guns, and you will see a good healthy respectful society. At this stage of the game called life the criminals outgun the good citizens of south africa and our police cant protect us, this incident shows that we owe it to every good honest south african to go on a "arm our citizens, not our criminals" drive so that every good honest citizen has the ability and capability to protect themselves, their family and their fellow citizen.
Foreigners and Iinkabi should be two big suspects in an attack like this,and I can explain. Foreigners should be suspects because in Soweto events like operation dudula may cause some foreigners to plan an attack like this in retaliation,because already they don't respect our country and its laws,they do things that they can't even think of in their own countries where they come from. Iinkabi.This is common attack scene of inkabi,where they just load people in taxi and attack their targets when ever the is a despute.
@@noloyisonopanjwa883 And they would,those people know how useless our law enforcement is,they don't even respect our country to beggin with.I heared the is a voice note that was circling around talking about attacking people. If they said that then they shouldn't be spared as one of major suspects.
According to the threats that go out you can suspect this kind of action,they promise to fight bck than to leave this country ,so we shouldnt be suprise.SAns are meek thats foresure ,those kind of threats cnt be tken lightly frm day one
Don't even try to say Cele must step down because he didn't appoint himself. The people who appointed him are just like him, they will again appoint a person like them, because that is what incompetency does. SA, I ask you to remove the ANC for your benefit and the rest of the country's benefit. I never voted before but come next elections I will definitely VOTE. I never thought I would VOTE for any other party but the ANC. However, the state of our country is not acceptable.
We fail to solve our own problems as humans because of ths mindset Crime is crime regardless of the nationality...... Today u can say foreigners tomorrow u will say pple from Limpopo, kzn, eastern cape are bringing problems to u
And tomorrow u will be saying you don't have food,electricity ,and fueling is rising because of non locals,for once hold on to your horses and grab the bull by the horns.
This are Terrorist acts which are well coordinated, it can't be coincidence that there's shootings in Soweto and PMB something is at play which is bigger the the actual crimes
You expect this in other countries. I am sorry for the families that have lost loved ones. Pray for the future of this country and all who dwell in it.Pater Noster
What do you mean, you expect this in other countries? SA is a country that is rife with crime for so many years now. This is all deliberate crime to destabilize our country...its those that don't want to go to prison based on the Zondo report.
In this world there’s Jesus and then there’s also the Devil/ The adversary himself. People are perishing because of rebellion and lack of knowledge. Entertaining devil and his schemes is Deadly. It’s clearly stated in the Bible that in latter times, perilous things will increase but they are still spiritually blind. Repent from sin and live for Jesus Only. This ain’t it. ▫️
Back to God, killings happen because people took God off their lives, God is love if you have him in your life you'll love your neighbor as yourself. But if it was church, churches were going to be closed and spoken bad. May the good lord, Jesus Christ heal the broken hearted. We are standing with you in prayer.
People need the Lord. It's time to repent and to come back to the Father. We need more missionaries and prayer warriors in our own land. Condolences to the families of the victims.
That alone is not the answer but accountability from our people as well... we can't always shift the blame, South Africans also need to take responsibility for themselves, it's sad though
@@valsables5299 DON'T BE BLASPHEMING AT THIS SAD TIME.... IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.... GET ON YOUR KNEES AND PRAY & ASK GOD FOR HIS FORGIVENESS FOR YOUR IRRESPONSIBILE REFERENCE CONCERNING THE "HOLY SPIRIT" "THE HOLY SPIRIT IS A GIFT OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST GIVEN TO BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS" THIS IS NEITHER THE PLACE NOR THE TIME FOR BEING FLIPPANT.... 🌹🌟💫🌹💫🌟
@@valsables5299 THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN & EARTH.... THE HOLY TRINITY GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON, AND GOD "THE HOLY SPIRIT" THE HOLY BIBLE.... TELLS IT ALL.... I'LL PRAY THAT GOD WILL REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU.... WHAT AN AWESOME EXPERIENCE THAT WILL BE....
These mass deaths in South Africa are rising at an alarming rate! Last week it was 21 children in the tarven again & today they are 14 in the tavern! This is no longer normal! Life of a human being is so expensive but other people dont hesitate to put an end to it within a matter of few minutes! Drug abuses are now claiming more lives in Africa than covid itself. Those criminals might have been possessed by the evil spirit of drugs to perfom such a terrible onslaught! May God help and deliver us from these tragic accounts🙏. Fair judgement should come over these murderers.
it okay we open the borders for them this is how they thank us ?? This is how they thank us we're also focused on Zimbabweans and Nigerians but there's also crew we don't mention Somalis they have tuckshops around us they want to own everything we're sorounded
All Taverns in all provinces must be closed, they are not save and destroying the future of the poor young kids. It was Eastern Cape now it is Soweto. Condolences to the families.
You guys decided to be killing and being violent to Zimbabweans and Nigerians. You supported Nhlanhla Lux doign that nonsense. Now i believe its a way foreigners are responding now of course even south Africans
@@thobekashangase1452 my lady people are being killed around SA. What do u think is the cause of all these killings? Coz we dont have to be all crying, we have to brainstorm to find possible causes of these mass shootings. My dear, i am thinking its the retaliation. Do unto others what yould like them to do unto you. You guys blamed foreigners for every theft that happened, a Zim guy being killed like a dog and people are hurting . My dear all this that South Africans did to foreigners will definitely come back maybe as terrorism
I just watched Inga Mkoko's interview who survived in this shooting 🥹 Thank you to ubaba uMbhele for saving his life, he's a true hero 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Did anyone ever got arrested for what happened there?
Than the minister says "Shaat Up!" when he's called out for politicizing outdated crime stats
That fkr is senile & probably has the highest security where he stays. He doesn't know what we're dealing with out here in these streets.
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Hys deuri kak ja
The so called mister of police he was sleeping that time and the day he wakeup he is going to tell us to shut up
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This is high time South Africans we start coming closer to God more than to taverns.. so heartbreaking 😭
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
tf! The level of irrationality you need to have to think that they died because they were not at church smh. Are not aware of people have been mascaraed in churches, mosques, synagogues and other religious gatherings around the world? This has nothing to do with religiosity. It is just an unfortunate event that happened to those victims. Leave your religious beliefs out of it. When it's your time to die, death will find you no matter where you are tbh
@@ARationalObserver coming to God doesn't mean mosques or synagogues or what ever all other things you've mentioned. Coming to God is giving your heart to Jesus Christ to be your Lord and Savior, and be born-again. From then on you live for Him. That's the real definition of "coming to God".
@@m.x.refrigxolani8365 tell that to a Muslim or Jew, or any other religion if Jesus Christ is god and lets hear what the response will be. They certainly don't believe that. What makes your religious claims more valid than theirs? Sorry to break it to you bud but your religious claims have not been demonstrated to be true to any reasonable standard unless you would like to have the discussion of course. Don't take it personally though, I don't just think your religion is bunk and unproven but all the others as well.
AND if you were born in the middle east you most likely would have been a Muslim, in japan you would've been a secularist, In India you would've been a Hindu. Isn't it funny how everyone seems to be born into the right religion?
Please answer diligently and do go off on tangents
@@ARationalObserver this is is what makes the claims of Jesus valid .
Jesus said to his disciples But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you. And you will be my witnesses, telling people about me everywhere-in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”
Acts of the Apostles 1:8
Guns in hands of wrong people are a problem all around the world. It’s very sad to see such happening in SA. Condolences to all the victims families.
True brother, very true, and the sad part is that no matter how much we could try to intervene and have new firearms laws and so forth the guns always find their way to the wrong hands we have one of the strictest fire arms laws in the world but when the law enforcement and state have to enforce it they seem to have people inside who don't do their jobs or are on the payroll of the perpetrators and also not only in South Africa are these massacres happening, even in the United States there's mass shootings and the citizens have raised the issue of stricter firearms laws and unfortunately despite that the shootings still happened💔💔💔
Correction: - "Guns in hands of people"
@@LanteLuthuli you have a valid point there, no one should be in a position of a firearm or firearms
Correction. GUNS are the PROBLEM
@@manqobavincentjrmnguni6856 Nonsense, an armed society is a polite society. People should be allowed to own firearms so that they can defend themselves. The gun is not the problem here. Its like blaming cars for accidents and wanting to ban cars. Cars kill more people than guns, so lets ban cars!
In this country there are more opportunities for kids to get inside an unsafe tavern than to get into a library, sports or computer center. Their parents are also forced to work day & night to make ends meet in this hell of an economy.
NJ I agree with you on that one, most kids don't like reading or playing sports or learn new skills, most of these youngsters in S.A like pleasure
Libraries are closed on the weekends
@@sneakerclub9969 they're opened on Saturdays. Some do half day. The one in Lenasia opens up to 5pm.
if we don't have kids then we can go to work and not worry about their safety. but I am sad this kind of thing is happening still.
U so clever
Problem I have with our country is Justice system criminals have more rights than law abiding citizens.
True and it's like the criminals have got the financial muscle to bribe any one
@@lisitashamatutu1140 Bheki Cele hands is full and overflowing. I wonder what will be his response. This is a Huge Mess
@@thehousemixer_Dj cele is tired we need a well qualified, young and vibrant professional to spear head the police service
@@lisitashamatutu1140 Agree. What do you suggest to do to radically reduce crime in our country? Should we fight fire with fire or stick to old policies that seems to favour criminals
At this point we need to fight fire with fire
This is really sad..
Taverns are becoming death-traps in SA.
This is what happens when criminals serve sentences that don't fit the crime. You commit murder and get sentenced to 15 years but serve only 7 years 6 months because you have succeeded in pretending that you've been rehabilitated.
But anyway..
Condolences to all the families whose loved ones fell victim to this horrendous and barbaric incident.
U voted for more taverns. Speak to ur party the Anc. Taverns are lekka.
Why is it that other races always blames black people whenever they complain and they bring the '' ur government '' speech which by the way some of them do benefit from?? just because I'm black doesn't mean that I voted/support ANC or speak Zulu and the list go on.... Really now its getting old already...
Yeh bro I work at correctional services department 99%of hardcore criminals once they get parole they commit more and more crimes there is nothing scary about prison its a semi hotel there with top service delivery to our clients/offenders
@@valsables5299 How do you know this person voted for the ANC?
@@hellonomasonto It's not science to know how the black nation vote. I'm Anc. Anc keeps them poor & influence them with Sassa grants. Most of that grants are for the black uneducated. They can't get jobs. But they grow up amongst low class people and spend 50% or more of their money on alcohol. It's their god. They have free housing. Dont pay income taxes. So again. Vote the Anc out & things will go better. CT is DA. They create work there. They can do it for all of SA. Good luck bro.
The gentlemen speaking in the beginning have my heart, you can hear the pain in their voices
This never happened during Apartheid.
@@valsables5299 so what ? Apertheid must comeback? You people are sick !
@@valsables5299 proof?
She's such a great reporter. Really good at her Job
Same thoughts I had as I was listening to her and watching the Vid
Oh, not another tavern claiming multiple lives. No, S.A., no! 😥
Im starting to think all these things are planned . 💔💔Please watch yourself dont go to taverns .
@@mervedimpofu9329 Just like looting it is planned,Kzn and Mamelodi had shootings too I think politics
My condolences to the families of the deceased. May God heal our Land🇿🇦 🙏🏽😭😭😭
@Brazil petrol kahle kahle what's wrong with you 😕
God don't care about criminals like Anc & supporters. He knows they commit fraud also. So he leaves SA in their own shit.
@Brazil petrol we don't have time for this. We're hurting for our people. The law will play its role.
These stupid questions, “Nizokwenzani manje”
I thought the same thing.
yea ubuza imbhedo this interviewer...people are in pain nizokwenza njani?
eish i asked myself that is this journalist being for real. we still have a long way to go in this country
Just imagine very stupid and rubbing salt to the wound
I was disgust by those stupid questions....this journalist mxm
In all of this nobody is talking about gun violence. Criminals always get away with these crimes. Safety should be a topic, everywhere.
So now you want to shift the blame to foreigners , so pathetic, you guys should stop praising alcohol,
Tavern is not a safe place
Confiscated weapons are sold at ten cents a truckload by the very people whose job it is to protect us! #CeleMustFall !!
facts
Yes, this is a sad situation, we can safely say that there are more illegal guns in this country that legal guns. How do criminals get there hands on these weapons. Defending ourselves and our families seems more of a crime than the crime criminals commit. Whistle blowers also have to live in fear of reprisals.
@@garffieldiscool1163 exactly and we are slowly becoming USA. We cannot say that people must stop going to tarvens. People are getting shot at school..this is a global issue that needs to be addressed. We can't be living like this.
The world is full of evilness and the devil is taking over we need to really really stay prayed up 🙏🏻💔
This never happened under Apartheid.
So sad to watch!!! Our Country is in a mess...A serious one!!!😟😪🤕💔😊
Sadly yes it's a mess but there are those that want to remain blind to that fact 😕
This tactic has been used on the black SA by the whites and still doing it. The enemy is within. They pay a lot of money to the poor black SA to do these things to their own community. Every man has a price.
@Brazil petrol it is the Nigerians.. boko haram killing style.
Stop going to taverns
My point exactly
Am with you 💯
That's not the point. You can still be a victim of crime in any setting. Have you heard of "home invasions"?
But the vibe is undeniable. Rights of passage for the youth
Go to church and drink petrol.
Its heartbreaking for all those families. Very brave to be able to speak to the reporters after such a tragedy.
This is sad. What's happening to our young people. They are perishing. Please lord intervene and destroy the work of the enemy.
eishh...... where there's no vision the people will perishe.
This has got nothing to do with prayer and all sorts of things. This has to do with parents. Parents should intervene in this. Parents are the once who allowing these kids to go out and drink the whole night especially in paces like tarvens. After what happened in EC (Enyobeni) tarven and now this. People are not responsible of their lives.
South africa is the home of devil 😈 la akazibuka khona imithetho yalelizwe yiyo le ebhedayo kugcwele ama tarven kodwa kumele ngabe kugcwele izikole zemfundo
@@dennissabelonkosi8226 Stop acting like teenagers don’t sneak out 😑
I don't think the Lord will protect such an evil society and government
Thank you for bringing us this report.
This is what we used to see happening in America. It's so sad to see this happening to our next door neighbors. What's really happening in SA?
It's sad and concerning. I think the powers that be want to distract us on what's really happening
SA copies all American ideologies!
SA is becoming ungovernable for Cyril.
@@ronniemushiwokufa2508 Cyril he killed them
So sad and heartbreaking. It seems taverns are being targeted lately..may God protect our country
Since the 70s whenever a person speaks on international media whether live or recorded, theres ALWAYS a translator. Why can't South African media do the same?
The reporter just interpreted what the two men said.
Learn Xhosa & Zulu. you've been here for a long time. Respect us please. 😴
because the reporter knows both languages.
The Journalists give a highlight of what was said after the interview
If you stay out of SA, google give you english for interpretation just press it then you'll get your answer.
This is why i hate crowded places especially in the town ship. At night you always Hear gun shots and people always carry weapons (guns and knifes) at taverns and pubs. Stay away from such places in the town ship you are never safe.
I honestly stay away from such as well.
Please always pray! There are friends who are secretly at war with you ! B
This is concerning. I don't even know what to say besides saying "condolences" 😪
People just die like Ants.
These people are creating havoc to stray us away from real issues …and it’s sad bcos this comes at a high price for the victims and families . There are people in high power positions who are encouraging this events of unrest
RIP to our siblings again💔
You got it right they have used this tacky tactic for centuries to destabilise Africans on the continent.
This is a white tactic to say that Africans can’t govern.
My thoughts exactly.ANC's doing in KZN same this has happened
We must unite as South Africans against
Guys the problem is not about the tarvens rather the law. We're leaving in a country where governments inability to govern affects its itizema wellbeing. This is the laws issue not the business issue (tarvens). Does our government capable of investigating, arresting and sentence the perpetrators? This issue is very simple you can see it has its roots from KZN and you might find that it's a taxi war from back home.
Very true bro
Our law is not protecting us at all we need to listen to each other in our communities
@@freedomchitake5552 very simple bro through voting nothing else. This government is not for the people it is for the leaders since their interest is not us citizens rather their financial and personal.
how can we see it's got roots from KZN?
@@freedomchitake5552 there will forever be crime bro the problem is the government n its system (corruption) that continue to affect our lives daily and this simply shows that this current government is not cabable to lead us
Stay safe South Africans, we are under siege. Condolences to the affected families, relatives, friends, communities and to all my fellow South Africans. May all the deceased RIP.
Death is upon us all,my Condolences to South Africans 🙏🙏
So much freedom can lead to this , you guys praise alcohol too much ,
This is work of people who want to bring more hate in this country South Africans stand up and fight this evil 😈
Kwaze kwabuhlungu esikuzwayo. Kazi kwenzakalani ezweni lethu. INkosi kuphela eyaziyo ebona ekusithekeni. Sengath I imiphefumulo yabo ingalala ngoxolo
South Africans please stand up,what happened to us that we are so meek,have we been bewitched into silence?
South africa 🇿🇦 needs God
So sorry for your loss
May God be with all the family and give them strength.
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I don't believe such is happening to our beautiful SA.. Lord please protect us
I can't believe you just posted this comment
The thing is alcohol regulations in SA is not tight this such are happening over and over some tarven operation without license any one is doing what they like even if is children they don't as long as they making money who to blame here sellers government parents police community l think everybody must work together here to stop this trust me 🤞🇿🇦
It's the people not the alcohol...
@@tamara40 its the ppl not alcohol
@Antony marega Nah Nhlanhla Lux would know that by now this is our own people khona la. It could be a hit but too many witnesses had to die too ai
Crime has now became a norm... The government really need to do something about tightening the laws on this country, South Africa is now falling apart......
The duty and the main objective of the constitution is to serve & protect the citizens of this country.
Condolences to all family members !!
We need to stop relying on the government.take matters into our hands collectively
Sad reality
I'm sure the guns are being supplied by the latin american drug pins .
Direct result of corruption.
Look how mighty and strong the Russian propaganda told us. Yet they fail miserably due to corruption.
A fine example they are of corruption.
Now use the same eyes and look at any state entity.
That is the cancer that led to unnecessary lives lost in most unfortunate circumstances.
That angers me bitterly in the deepest depths of my soul.
This is heart breaking, we are not safe in this country 😭😭😭
When young people have no opportunities in this country they give themselves to alcohol...the youth of this country is perishing...ANC!!!!
The fact that I was saying the exact same thing earlier on today...
And the they kill them to reduce the opportunities even further more
Condolences To The Families Of All The Deceased. Prayers Up 🙏
Nkosi sikelela I Africa
This is traumatic
South Africa is on fire. Where is the law and order taxpayers pay for?
My deepest condolences to the families May their Souls Rest In Peace💔💔💔💔
My heartfelt condolences to all family and friends of the deceased and injured fighting for their lives. And not a word spoken by Ramaphosa on this horrific 2nd tavern tragedy. (from New Zealand)
My condolences to family of the deceased
This is an everyday thing in South Africa so you want the president to address the nation everyday
@@h.m.5724 You are lying
@@judyatoro9387 obviously you don't live in South African or you want to disseminate false information
Ramaphosa is the president of covid apart from covid and taking loans for covid he doesn't involve himself.....we are on our own shem
"Condolences.We Are BURYING Our Children Instead Of Vice Versa"
A nationwide ban on all onsite alcohol licenses. Convert all licenses to offsite alcohol consumption(take away )...
There's too many tavern related tragic deaths lately
that is not the problem , the problem is a culture that glorifies violence , drunkenness , entitlement , envy , theft , you don't improve the man by taking away the temptation , you negate the temptation by improving the man , and here is someone who teaches that so well , ruclips.net/video/ERj3QeGw9Ok/видео.html
These taverns in residential areas are a real problem
I am so sorry for the families and friends of the deceased. May God Almighty, comfort and strengthen you to deal with your pain in Jesus name. Such sadness and heartache.
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I am sorry, with tears in my eyes, first all those children and now these people. Its as if taverns are being targeted. Please can someone in SA do something about crime in the country, it has got out of hand ages ago. Obviously Cele and co have not done their job of protecting their citizens and should stand down from their positions
For as long as we have the Devil that Cyril Ramaphosa as the president of this beloved country, we will continue having such horrible experiences
it's not only the president, it's the whole anc government
Is Ramaphosa telling your children go to tavern's or is what you parents failed your children
@@murambatsvina2084 he is sacrificing them for elections
@@penelopegomez5934 yoh no comments
Thr whole if ANC must go this country is falling to shit cele and the whole cop force must go
We need a brand new policy force what we have today are absolutely disgusting and useless to the core
Oh lord, what is happening?🥺😭
Since 94
@@thesherrifgoesdownunder6150 before 94?
@@thesherrifgoesdownunder6150 shut up man before 1994 it was the uprising [ When the white cops opened fire on young people/ students] , Sharpville massacre ect remember ?
Corny ass!
@@oK-wc8nj before 94 ...plenty of jobs,plenty of electricity, plenty police (real police),lowest crime rates in 30years and strongest rand in 30years...we can be here all day..
@@thesherrifgoesdownunder6150 💀👀👀 plenty of jobs given to who...? And were they equally distributed?
ENCA, please have some respect for the grieving family members and don't zoom into their faces!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Got given the job...get used to the poor standard
What's wrong with showing their faces because they agreed to be interviewed
@@mpume131 I'm talking about the mother inside the car. She did not approve!
Yhooo abantu zilwane ubabulala kanjan nje abantu abangaka 😢😢
These incidents aren't good. The type of fun available for young people is getting out of hand and taking their lives.
SA is not place to live in cz it is very dangerous. I mean what is tht they did to die like this?😭. My heartfelt condolences😭
@Brazil petrol Man stop being political once in a lifetime and be a human being. This is abt families tht have lost their loved ones not this kak u wanna talk abt so pls take it somewhere 🙏
@Brazil petrol When did Zulu ppl kill Xhosas and where did tht take place. U seems like u knw something tht i dnt knw pls explain to me🤔
@Brazil petrol Man as for Zulu ppl having tribalism and killing ppl i 100% agree wth but now if u look closely those ppl who lost their lives most of them are Zulus so wht do u have to say abt tht one?
@Brazil petrol OK
There is serious need to check these Tarvens safety and security or else they close! Most victims definitely are teenagers. As a parent myself its not possible to stop these kids to go to such places wen u find 5 tarvens in 1 street.. Its a death trap for kids!
Booze and weapons in one sentence? A lethal combo!!
@ Angie well said
Taverns need to be shutdown. Places that sell booze in housing infrastructures shouldn't be awarded licenses... This reporter though 🤦♂️.
exactly
It is not all about Taverns, I think is about the gatherings. They need a lot of us dead. It can happen everywhere. Just to finish us South African in our own land. The motive behind is so huge
Condolences to the South African people, so much wrong recently. You need a revolution.
Condolences to the families of the deceased. I hope we learn to resolve issues without hurting so many others. This is sad.
We need to open our minds, our people are killed and criminals are always not known. Something is fishing
Morning am very sorry for the family that have lost some of their family, I know this is painful....
This is sad hleng😭sending deepest condolences to our neighbours. Frm Bw 🇧🇼🇧🇼🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦!
retenwe bathong cele atlise masole batle go tabola matlakala ba latlhele ko atshwanetseng bathong ons is moeg man retshwanetse re phele jaana NO aromele masole [ gaa batla legone]🤮
Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long; they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others.
But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah. The greatest among you will be your servant. For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted".
YOU SHALL NOT MAKE FOR YOURSELF AN IMAGE in the form of anything, in Heaven above or in the Earth beneath, or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them, or worship them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents, up to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me, and keep my commandments.
If my people who are called by my name, humble themselves and pray, AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS, I will hear from Heaven, will forgive their sins, and will heal their land.
AND WHEN YOU PRAY DO NOT BE LIKE THE HYPOCRITES, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners, to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.
BUT WHEN YOU PRAY, GO INTO YOUR ROOM, close the door, and pray to your Father who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need, before you ask him.
This, then, is how you should pray:
Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.
For if you forgive other people when they sin against you,
your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
But if you do not forgive others their sins,
your Father will not forgive your sins.
"Matthew 5-7 NIV Bible Gateway", we can use google search.
These are the teachings,
The Righteousness of our Lord Jesus Christ our God.
REPENT, and start doing what is right.
If you abide my teachings, you are really my disciples;
then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
Yet a time is coming and has now come
when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in Truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
GOD IS SPIRIT, so his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in Truth.
In the New Heaven and the New Earth,
only Righteousness dwells.
May the Spirit of our Lord Jesus Christ our God be with you all.
South Africa is a mess .... we're in a deep mess
Condolences to the families, sad day, unfortunately we live in a now lawless country, run by a lawless government intent on driving personal agendas, a corrupt police force who can do nothing about the crime because of criminal forces within. Eish
Guns in the hands of the wrong people, i for one am of the opinion that bad people irrespective of guns, knives or a damn piece of rope around their victim's neck , the BAD people are the problem. Allow guns , tanks , anything but ban BAD people, remove bad people from our society not guns, and you will see a good healthy respectful society.
At this stage of the game called life the criminals outgun the good citizens of south africa and our police cant protect us, this incident shows that we owe it to every good honest south african to go on a "arm our citizens, not our criminals" drive so that every good honest citizen has the ability and capability to protect themselves, their family and their fellow citizen.
Foreigners and Iinkabi should be two big suspects in an attack like this,and I can explain.
Foreigners should be suspects because in Soweto events like operation dudula may cause some foreigners to plan an attack like this in retaliation,because already they don't respect our country and its laws,they do things that they can't even think of in their own countries where they come from.
Iinkabi.This is common attack scene of inkabi,where they just load people in taxi and attack their targets when ever the is a despute.
I said that to the Nyobeni incident and everybody barked at me. They vowed that they will do mass killing of SAns before they leave. Watch the space!
@@noloyisonopanjwa883 And they would,those people know how useless our law enforcement is,they don't even respect our country to beggin with.I heared the is a voice note that was circling around talking about attacking people. If they said that then they shouldn't be spared as one of major suspects.
According to the threats that go out you can suspect this kind of action,they promise to fight bck than to leave this country ,so we shouldnt be suprise.SAns are meek thats foresure ,those kind of threats cnt be tken lightly frm day one
Interviewing a man who just identified his nephews in a sea of dead bodies a mere few hours later?? ☹️💔
There must be a language barrier because she can't be this insensitive. It is unbelievable really😔.
Prior to that she said a lot but didn't really say anything. Guess she's emotionally distorted by the tragedy
Don't even try to say Cele must step down because he didn't appoint himself. The people who appointed him are just like him, they will again appoint a person like them, because that is what incompetency does.
SA, I ask you to remove the ANC for your benefit and the rest of the country's benefit.
I never voted before but come next elections I will definitely VOTE. I never thought I would VOTE for any other party but the ANC. However, the state of our country is not acceptable.
Ah man this is heartbreaking 💔💔💔
Foreigners are involved definately I know. 2024 we should make a difference and vote out ANC because they are not going to do anything
What evidence do you have to support your statement..kuzeka!!
We fail to solve our own problems as humans because of ths mindset
Crime is crime regardless of the nationality...... Today u can say foreigners tomorrow u will say pple from Limpopo, kzn, eastern cape are bringing problems to u
Were foreigners involved in EC
@@cynthiaapril8137 m giving u an example if u blame foreigners today tomorrow u will blame ur own sstas
And tomorrow u will be saying you don't have food,electricity ,and fueling is rising because of non locals,for once hold on to your horses and grab the bull by the horns.
Since ANC took over this country is over attack .😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
This is so sad 😭... condolences to the families who lost their loved ones.
This is heartbreaking 💔
This is just sad.
People can be cruel.
This are Terrorist acts which are well coordinated, it can't be coincidence that there's shootings in Soweto and PMB something is at play which is bigger the the actual crimes
Excellent Nqobile. Keep it up👏
Its annoying for a reporter to ask a person who is traumatized such questions
You expect this in other countries. I am sorry for the families that have lost loved ones. Pray for the future of this country and all who dwell in it.Pater Noster
Expect it in which country, Stfu is you don’t have anything to say
Do you mean people’s lives don’t matter in other countries
What do you mean, you expect this in other countries? SA is a country that is rife with crime for so many years now. This is all deliberate crime to destabilize our country...its those that don't want to go to prison based on the Zondo report.
In this world there’s Jesus and then there’s also the Devil/ The adversary himself. People are perishing because of rebellion and lack of knowledge. Entertaining devil and his schemes is Deadly. It’s clearly stated in the Bible that in latter times, perilous things will increase but they are still spiritually blind. Repent from sin and live for Jesus Only. This ain’t it. ▫️
Amen
We are truly living in the last days
Back to God, killings happen because people took God off their lives, God is love if you have him in your life you'll love your neighbor as yourself. But if it was church, churches were going to be closed and spoken bad. May the good lord, Jesus Christ heal the broken hearted. We are standing with you in prayer.
Well said my brother but no one is ready to hear this the Lord must have Mercy upon our souls as we need it more than ever in our Country
Let's unite fellow South Africans this is pure evil 😢
People need the Lord. It's time to repent and to come back to the Father. We need more missionaries and prayer warriors in our own land. Condolences to the families of the victims.
That’s the only solution, please form prayer groups and pray round the clock.
Painful really where are the Pastors and community leaders.we need to go back to our Lord Jesus Christ.
This country needs leadership
Str0ng leadership
That alone is not the answer but accountability from our people as well... we can't always shift the blame, South Africans also need to take responsibility for themselves, it's sad though
At our homes especially, everything that is occurring including the politics is a reflection of our society.
This country is ruled by the Criminals.
@@lungelosokhela935 yawn zzz
Evil times. We knew it was coming but it's still heartbreaking 💔. Condolences and may God keep all our loved ones and us safe 🙏
We hear gunshots everyday in Soweto. You could be sleeping and gunshots could go off randomly. It’s been very consistent lately I must say.
I think someone is sending a message 🤔the incident at enyobeni Tarven and this one are not a coincidence. Maybe it's time we leave alcohol alone
You are right.This is spiritual.Similar to the brutal killings of women especially in women's month.
I agree.....Put the old man to dead
This is so sad 😭
Condolences to Mbele family 😢😢😢😢
This is heartbreaking. May all affected find comfort in the Holy Spirit.
The holy spirit is the Anc. Thank them.
@@valsables5299 DON'T BE BLASPHEMING AT THIS SAD TIME.... IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.... GET ON YOUR KNEES AND PRAY & ASK GOD FOR HIS FORGIVENESS FOR YOUR IRRESPONSIBILE REFERENCE CONCERNING THE "HOLY SPIRIT"
"THE HOLY SPIRIT IS A GIFT OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST GIVEN TO BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS"
THIS IS NEITHER THE PLACE NOR THE TIME FOR BEING FLIPPANT.... 🌹🌟💫🌹💫🌟
@@Marlene-Ferreira Which God ? There's so many. And none really exists. Ha ha.
@@valsables5299 THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN & EARTH.... THE HOLY TRINITY GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON, AND GOD "THE HOLY SPIRIT" THE HOLY BIBLE.... TELLS IT ALL.... I'LL PRAY THAT GOD WILL REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU.... WHAT AN AWESOME EXPERIENCE THAT WILL BE....
@@Marlene-Ferreira Religion : The destroyer of common sense & logic.
These mass deaths in South Africa are rising at an alarming rate! Last week it was 21 children in the tarven again & today they are 14 in the tavern! This is no longer normal! Life of a human being is so expensive but other people dont hesitate to put an end to it within a matter of few minutes! Drug abuses are now claiming more lives in Africa than covid itself. Those criminals might have been possessed by the evil spirit of drugs to perfom such a terrible onslaught! May God help and deliver us from these tragic accounts🙏. Fair judgement should come over these murderers.
Too much deaths in South Africa 😭😭. What is really happening?😩😩
South Africa 💔😭
This is soo heartbreaking 💔
it okay we open the borders for them this is how they thank us ?? This is how they thank us we're also focused on Zimbabweans and Nigerians but there's also crew we don't mention Somalis they have tuckshops around us they want to own everything we're sorounded
Where is Cele? He was making jokes at a meeting concerning violence and police efficiency in South Africa
All Taverns in all provinces must be closed, they are not save and destroying the future of the poor young kids. It was Eastern Cape now it is Soweto. Condolences to the families.
You guys decided to be killing and being violent to Zimbabweans and Nigerians. You supported Nhlanhla Lux doign that nonsense. Now i believe its a way foreigners are responding now of course even south Africans
In this particular case is it the tavern or the criminals at fault?
This comment demonstrates an insufficient thought process.
@@noluthandomtila1198 no way the tarven is not at fault.
@@thobekashangase1452 my lady people are being killed around SA. What do u think is the cause of all these killings? Coz we dont have to be all crying, we have to brainstorm to find possible causes of these mass shootings. My dear, i am thinking its the retaliation. Do unto others what yould like them to do unto you. You guys blamed foreigners for every theft that happened, a Zim guy being killed like a dog and people are hurting . My dear all this that South Africans did to foreigners will definitely come back maybe as terrorism
This is so sad my condolences to the families.
Who is sacrificing people at taverns these days?
God protect everyone innocent
People are full of evil spirit. The devil is living through people.
People are angry and want blood.
This is really painful.
May we return to God pls
I am so sorry for their losses. May they be blessed 🙏🏾
PURE EVILNESS!!!! WE DON’T HAVE POLICE IN SOUTH AFRICA…
Ummm this country 🤦🏾♀️ May their souls Rest In Peace 🙏🏾