APD tells operator to unboot cars parked in a private lot in midtown
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- Опубликовано: 12 мар 2017
- The Atlanta Police Department evens the playing field for a group of motorists caught parking in the wrong spot in Midtown.
Several motorists got the boot when they left a large lot on Ponce de Leon Avenue to go into Green's liquor store on Saturday.
WATCH: APD gives booter the boot over license issue
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The property owner had the right to enforce its parking policy. However, when officers were called to the location, it was determined that one worker with the booting operator had an expired license to boot.
So officers asked, and the SBS Company complied, and removed the immobilizing devices. Each motorist was saved $75.
Richard Spear, the operations chief for SBS, said the worker had been hired part time to act as a spotter and was not supposed to attach the devices.
Atlanta police issued a citation.
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Was booted on private property while doing business with only that property. Booted and then I called. Explained and they refused. Said had business owner to back me up. Took a selfie with business owner and boot. Called back and said 10 minutes and I'm cutting it off. They threatened so I cut it off. 6 years and nothing. Still have the selfie.
I'll cut it right off . Only law enforcement should be able to do this
It's not illegal to cut those off with a grinder unless the police department or city parking enforcement put it on your car.
Says who? I got a company tryna find me for cutting one off hahahhaa
You are absolutely wrong.
im still gonna take it off and sent it to them
Even if it’s illegal, they would have to prove you were the one that removed it and damaged it. There are ways to remove those without damaging them. However, if your in a hurry you could use a cordless angle grinder and rip right through it. Then take it with you and dump it somewhere ASAP in case it has some type of tracking system (which I doubt). Then there is no evidence of anything. Just a missing vehicle and boot.
They're 50 bucks on Amazon, so if they come up with some outrageous price, they can shove it.
Simple solution. Buy 4 boots of your own. (The triangle kind which cover your whole tire) then when you park, boot all 4 of your own wheels thus stopping the parking company from being able to!
So true but ppl are cheap
Whoa this is like .. really smart
Love it 🤣🤣🤣
Why not boot the tow truck company?? Charge 100$ per boot!
Grandparents moved into an apartment complex for 6 months while awaiting their home construction to be completed…..the had out of state plates so the apartment parking lot attendants booted their vehicles multiple times each month for 3 months by mistake until Charlotte PD came out and told the person putting on the boots that if they came back again to the location for another call about cars being wrongfully booted, they were going to start arresting apt, management and the owners of the towing company the apt had contracted for extortion and auto theft.
this is the first time I heard about the police dept on the side of the person that's getting towed, usually the towing company and police work with each other so it's hard to get treated fairly.
@@aaj7020 I guess I should have included that my grandpa is retired LE lol…..
Maybe motorists should start carrying lock picks, so they can use self-help means to remove the boot without paying.
To be someone that would boot somebody’s car you would have to be long lowest of the low of humanity. That’s not a job that’s stealing
Here in florida it is illegal to boot a vehicle on a non compensatory lot. Only a pay lot can boot a vehicle legally. Although the apartment complexes have these companies boot cars. I have people call me and I’ll cut these illegal boots off as a courtesy. The booting company calls the police and the police give them the bad news.
Watch the "Lock Picking Lawyer" for how to pick the lock on a car boot.
That won't necessarily get the owner off the hook.
In Colorado, a parking enforcement officer can place a boot on a car in a client's property and require the car owner to pay a fee to remove it.
While a boot can be removed by picking the lock, the Booted will have likely recorded the VIN. So, if the boot it removed by the owner without payment, the Booted can legally filed a lien on the car. In Colorado, the cars registration cannot be removed, nor can the car be traded in or sold unroll the lien has been released hybrid leinholder/ booted.
@@Timbrock1000 ,
There is one word to describe such a legal policy- unconstitutional, and probably not on the books, either. One cannot simply place a lien on the property of another. One must have enough proof that a debt exists involving the property to place the lien. In essence, a mechanic could place a lien on a car or a contractor can place a lien on a home, but in each case, their must be strong evidence of debt related to that piece of property.
One cannot just place a lien on property because someone owes money. If it were that simple, credit card debt collectors could attach a lien to peoples' cars, homes, or whatever else they owned to enforce the debt. They can't. The courts generally wont allow it. A private booting company would have to show the same. A VIN that anyone can copy and a private claim that the owner of the car cut a boot or picked a lock is not enough. There must be actual evidence.
Three years after the fact when the owner attempts to sell the car and discovers the lien from the booting company, it is the booting company which will have to prove their case, not the car's owner. The owner of the car can also file charges against the booting company for filing a false lien. Most booting companies, especially shady ones, will think twice before going to the courts to enforce what is already a very shaky charge.
In Colorado, we can and do. When a vehicle is cited for unauthorized or other violation on a client's property, a boot can legally be installed.
Notices on signs around the lot are legal warning and notification.
. A lien can be placed on the vehicle if payment for boot removal is not paid.
@@Timbrock1000 ,
How does a client manage to obtain a lien if the customer cuts the boot or its lock and drives off? Anyone can photograph a car and its plate plus VIN, and then claim that the owner parked the car and left the lot. What standards of proof are there? How does the owner of the lot prove that the driver parked and left the lot without shopping at one of the covered stores, and that no one else in the car got out to shop at one of the covered stores? Also, years after the fact, it seems kind of unlikely that a judge would uphold a lien for a few tens or even hundreds of dollars. Private entities are never the equal of public law enforcement, and don't have the rights of public law enforcement. I would like to see a copy of the actual law, if you have it.
I did do some internet research on this and the most I came up with is that car liens can be placed by mechanics for services rendered but there has to be some form of contract and most probably a judgement from a court. Nothing came up about private booting companies in Colorado or anywhere else having a special right to place a lien for a booted vehicle. The only car lien articles which came up were for tow companies and mechanics. Tow companies could place a lien on a car for fees owed and ultimately dispose of the car but only after judgements from courts in some states and with special law enforcement permission in other states.
As for booting companies, it sounds like the only way for a booting company to place a lien on a car is if the owner agrees to or promises payment to the booting company in writing to get the boot removed and then refuses to pay what was agreed to. If the car owner simply cuts the boot and splits, there are two words which apply- prove it. Prove it means that the booting company become a plaintiff in small claims court and the car owner a defendant. If you can show me actual paperwork from an actual car owner who self removed a boot without notifying the boot's owner, paying, or agreeing to pay, I would like to see it.
Private booting companies requested by the police to boot illegally parked vehicles or for other official government enforcement are a different entity altogether.
@@AMERICANPATRIOT1945
In the same way a mechanic places a lien on a car. Though the car owner did not sign a contract, there are official signs placed on the client's property warning of unauthorized parking, which are considered official notice.
When a boot is placed on a car, it's VIN is recorded. Also, photos and notes about the car are recorded to back our claim.
We're very carefully and through in what we do.
Filing a lien though is very rare. In the past 2 years, we've only had to do it 4 times. (We boot a few thousand a year)
Our company is licensed by the state, insured and bonded.
Nothing illegal or shady here.
You , as a city, are giving the business owner police powers to enforce the law. This is a disaster waiting to happen. I can see it now...guns, cops, hostages, dead people, children crying...damn.
Bruh...You went for that 2nd cup of coffee didn't ya?😂
Also remember that the signs themselves have to be the right size the right lettering in order to be in the right to boot you
He was clearly doing his own hustle
@0:53 "I went to get a birthday gift from Green's and parked in this lot for six years..." Now you're gonna need five more birthdays gifts, you indecisive bastard.
Yeah...this is something that Georgia (and many other states) need to fix. The only people that should be allowed to boot is Law Enforcement (Even deputized parking authorities) and _only_ for issues of parking tickets that are outstanding and unpaid.
I was just going to make this comment. Then I read yours.
I agree. Our state legislature desperately needs to do something about these modern day bandits.
Its private property why would police boot on private property. If the owner of said propert wants people booted that park on their private property and go else where while parked on their private property that's their right.
@@runningdebate2670
they try to do that to in Belgium, law is clear on that over here;
no private person/organisation can touch your car or place items on it (including a boot or any other device) or immobilise it in any other means
the only people that can do that over here is law enforcement and only in certain cases; behind taxes, car used in a crime, etc . . .
Noone should be allowed to boot. If the car has significant unpaid tickets, tow it. Booting serves no purpose other than to extort money from the car owner while leaving the car in the spot. Personally, I think it should be illegal to boot at all and towing should only be allowed during business hours and never for technical violations such as back in parking, stickers not properly displayed (but visible), obvious typos in parking apps, etc...that in no way affect the ability of anyone else to park.
The first guy admitted to parking in the wrong lot.
Actions have consequences.
Call the boot technician out to a lot. While you distract him, put a boot of your own on his car
If its attached to your car cut it
harbor Fright sells a $10.00 angle grinders. It cuts those boots off your car like.a hot knife and butter!
UBERX MAN then you go to jail for destruction of private property. How about you don't park illegally in the first place. It's that fucking easy.
You would not go to jail. They have no legal authority to hold your property. It's nothing more than an attempt at extortion. They may not like you parking in their lot and going somewhere else, but it's not actually illegal. And even if it were they have no authority to enforce the law.
Rowgue51 it is legal to boot... That's why they have to register with the state. Obv every state is different but it is legal. If there are signs and they are licensed.... you can't park there unless you use the business..... and yes.... it is criminal to damage a boot... It's destruction of private property. You might not go to jail but you will have to pay for the boot.... go look up the laws just like I just did to make sure I was right before I posted this....
They'd have to prove you destroyed the property.. They might claim 'this plate/vin vehicle was booted' and the boot was destroyed... but that'd not pass 'reasonable doubt' nor the 'preponderance of evidence' requirements.
And claiming that you stole it would be hard.. how could you steal something that immobilizes your car.
steakman
Wrong. The law says they can put a bit on. It doesn't give them any recourse if somebody takes it off.
Put a boot on my pickup and you won’t get it back in one piece. I’ll have that thing cut off in 5 mins.
Ok, but the Booter can file a lien on your truck.
You can buy a cylinder type lock pick set for about $50.
I came out to find a boot on a friend of mine's car one day, and the boot wound up at the bottom of the Ohio River. Enough said.
I don't believe you.
Mad lad
Always follow the money. Most likely the Bootie Company has a sweetheart deal with City council members or City officials.
When I'm caught violating the law. it's ALWAYS a "technicality"...
Attaching a device to someone else's car makes that device the property of the car owner.
They can do whatever they want with it.
Cut it off and sell it for scrap.
That's as true as saying leaving your car on somebody else's property makes the car that person's property.
Cut it of or call for my rollback to come pick up my car
Or just cut it off
@@rivahkillah Except that's not how titled property works. Land and cars have titles and are private property. The parking is trespassing so a fine and towing is legally allowed. A boot is a form of extortion and by having the boot on a titled piece of property transfers the boots ownership to the title owner. Booting is wrong on many levels.
@@TheFrio937 It does not transfer the boot's ownership. That is just nonsense.
I’ll cut these off on the boot frame, not the lock, so they’re out a boot.
Eric x thats why i carry a battery operated angle grinder in my 🚗
Imagine the guy comes back to check your car and finds his boot sawed in half by an angle grinder. And the car gone.
Just keep a cordless sawzall get the boot cut it off
1:40., cop confirms you must have credentials to act criminally and extort money holding citizens.
Despicable.
Sawzall + WD40 is gold.
Take the wheel off and put on the spare
That can work but not always, some boots block you from doing that
I got booted last night in midtown. They’re smart. Used two.
Crooks
I’ve been booted in Chicago before but was able to remove the boot in a few hours with the help of a Metbaoo Saw
Doesn't matter how long you were there in the lot, pay your dam fees.
BOOTING should only be done by police.. NO OTHER!
Nothing like holding your personal property as hostage. What has happen to America??
leftist filth happend
@@renamon303 are you dumb? Private companies took over, last i checked leftists don't do private companies you idiot
One of the really nice things about having worked for a lock company back in my youth, I learned some mad skills. If some hack company boots my car, they will lose their boot in under 3 minutes. A boot is only as good as it's lock, if they are keyed alike, it's easy peazy. I have a buddy I used to work with who sells boots as scrap metal.
Are you related to LockPickingLawer, those are the thing he would say
Just jack the car up and change your wheel it normally comes of with the wheel, then charge the company for there boot back😉
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Booting logic:
"You're taking up my private property space by using the parking spot to go elsewhere, therefore I'm going to keep your car in that space even longer."
Sounds stupid right?
If I were a poor student I might have seen how many days it would take for them to give up.
A question for armchair lawyers. To tow or boot is a penalty for an "alleged" violation. That is to say an infraction not proved in court, and with denial of due process. Seems like illegal seizure of property to me until adjudicated in a court of law, assessing penalties before a legal violation is determined. Anyone have any thoughts?
If you want to go down that route then I say arrest the illegal parkers for trespassing.
First must try and resolve the illegal parking issue before boot is installed. Give the driver a grace period to move the car then if no response from said driver the police are called to issue a ticket and possible tow.
What they are doing is slapping the cuffs on prior to resolving, said case, peacefully.
It is not a government authority that is booting/towing. so there is no due process here unless you want to sue the boot/tow company. The one thing I did hear in this story is these people were parking in the lot of business NEXT door, so they were legitimately booted. They just got lucky the one guy did not have a licence.
There is nothing beyond a civil dispute going on. They argue you parked where you shouldn't have, so they clamp your car, or worse, tow it.
If it's a private company booting your car, just sue them afterwards for damages to brake rotors or rims for whatever the fine is plus a couple tenners.
Paul Geyer well answer that yourself since you're an armchair lawyer.
Easy, don't do business with, in or around businesses that work with, and more then likely get a kick back from, these tow companies. Problem solved.
I've never had a parking ticket, been booted or towed doing this.
How about not parking illegally?
To some tow companies, I don't think that matters. But, good point.
CruiserDog
If it's an illegal booting that is different. In this case the Parker's were Illegally parked but booter didn't have the authority to boot.
CruiserDog. Very smart !
I agree if I see private property signs Ill call the company I was going to see tell them there is no where to park we can't do business. I won't park there even if allowed either if the business is okay with the practice of booting.
i will just cut it off if they do it to me...
In Texas booting is really left to be regulated by cities. In San Antonio, they can't boot it until a hour after time has expired on a lot and on your second offense as long as you have proof of paying. Other wise the max fee is $35 for a boot.
So glad we don't have this issue in the Great Britain anymore.
This is where scammer will target people.
I'd just take the tire off. When somebody boots my tire I am going to interpret that as them giving me a free boot.
then your out more money on getting a new tire.
Aiden Carr nope I got a full size spare.
Go home and cut the boot off. Sell it for scrap metal.
Actually, many boots just fall off when you remove the tire from the car.
take the tire off or just cut it hate to say it but if its that magnesium cast like shown in this video those snap VERY EASILLY i dont reccomend it on newer cars (that have plastic bumpers and guards) but lets say like my little work beater a 2001 hyndai accent with cheap alluminum and plastic just drive forward untill it hits the wheel well and give it a tiny gas to force it in there and go itll snap itself like i said i highly dont reccomend this on new cars for obv reasons
most boots prevent you from removing the tire as they block the lug nuts
I got booted for parking near a restaurant I didn’t see the sign. I had to pay in cash $75 I could’ve went to $5 garage parking. Lesson learned
I keep a grinder in my car. Would take about ten seconds. Lol
So they admit they pay people to watch. That’s how much money they scam off people.
Cordless high speed grinder with a cutting wheel. 2 minutes.
In my city, even if the boot placed on the car is legal, The tow company gets shut down by the city and if a security company is doing the spotting, they loose their license. reason is these people who are illegally parking are supporting corperate America. And corperate America owns all the polititions.
It depends on what they're doing as 'spotters'. If they're just sitting and watching for people to come in, park, and walk off the lot to other businesses, that's illegal for multiple reasons, one of which is that people who are allowed to park there would also be caught on those times they would be coming into work early and go off the lot to get something to eat or do some shopping before work. Now if the 'spotter' is periodically going around and checking vehicles to see if they have a parking pass/sticker or not, that is legal.
I won't pay to have a boot removed from my vehicle I will just make a call and have my buddy bring his grinder and cutting torch and cut the boot off parking fines and parking violations are a way for towns and cities to extort illegal revenue from people
That news anchor looks like she's out of the 1940's. Still, she's very beautiful.
Booting should be prohibited.
The best way to prevent the boot is to just roll with old fashioned steel rims. That limits the type of boot they will use. Some boots can be slipped off by deflating the tire. Dont cut of the boot. You could have to pay a fine. If you dont damage it, its really up to the judge then lol.
Cut and the boot owner be damned. Makita is the best for cutting.
Are you crazy I would cut that boot off with the battery powered reciprocating saw or is a ziz zaw wheel.....😂😂😂😂😂
Decades past while my dad was alive, he got booted in his work truck. Unbolted the single tire they could reach, and install the spare. When by the booters office told em remove it and keep it or he'd cut it off and weld it up for them. The actually hired him to repair them.
I’m gonna buy me some boots….I’ll be rich as a skunk and everyone will love me…
So even if you park on a private lot, have business with that business that has the private lot but go across the road to get something, you can be towed or booted???
sounds like greed to me, in australia we tow not boot them, i dont even know if booting a car in australia is unheard of
When you find a boot on your car in your own drive way but get it off with a little liquid nitrogen and a sledge
I carry a batter powered grinder on every trip to Atlanta,
I don’t feel bad these people were booted. They parked without permission and left the lot. I’m happy they got justice for the unlawful bootings.
What they dont tell you is the business gets a kick back for every car booted..
How about these booting companies. And the boots in general go away. Dumbest thing I've ever seen
????
..."When yo cadentials are expired".....
I can defeat that boot within seconds
What I don’t get is…..don’t park where you are not supposed to????
Basically the state/municipal government tellls the booting business that if we dont get a piece of the pie or our taste $ by you renewing your licence to boot, that you cant operate and we know this business is lucrative so were going to enforce it with our police officers (muscle). You better pay us that $7500 to renew your licence or you cant earn.
I found a loophole to the boot, unless they tow as well. Get your own boot and boot all four of your wheels.
Always cracks me up when the excuse given "I was only gone for 5 mins"....lol
Im not going to give you a excuse im just going to cut the fucker off with the 6 inch grinder i carry with me now .and when your punk as try to talk to me your getting hit with bear pepper spray .loosers cant find a true job
Quick question to all of the people saying "Just jack the vehicle up and change the wheel"... If the boot covers the lugnuts, or even if covers just 1 lugnut, then it would seem destroying your hub or wheels studs at minimum would defeat the whole purpose, as you cant attach a wheel to a vehicle without studs & lugnuts. How does this make the vehicle any more driveable than just leaving the boot on it?
I bet a hammer 3lb would take care of that problem
If you modify my vehicle without my permission, I have the right to remove the unwanted modification.
So this was the "S.B.S. Parking Company"? These jokes write themselves.
SBS stands for Stupid Bull Sh!t.
A huge issue though.. that's not Buckhead either. As the reporter on site said that's in Midtown in the old murder Kroger parking lot, next to Ponce City Markets.
Leave the tyre and boot. Drive away in your spare tyre, replace it with a brand new tyre. Prolly cheaper.
Pay with your heart ❤️
I think i would die without that
What happened to "Due Process"? Everyone should have their day in court to contest the "illegal" parking. This is theft, blackmail, plain and simple. Every private boot on someone's vehicle should be able to be removed any way possible.
so can i just come live in your house without asking? Its really the same thing, that is your property, this is theirs. Its private property
If it was on my property, the replacement cost of the tires would outweigh the cost of removing the boot.
@@dynocompe Your example is more. If someone bolts a chair inside your house you can't touch their chair? If someone puts a boot on your car they are on your private property your car and you have a right to remove it by any means. Still fine a car for parking there but booting is wrong.
@@TheFrio937 of you put a chair in MY house, it means it's my chair, now. Parking is a bit different, as it's private property, but publicly accessible, so I wouldn't go overboard, but still. And the lady who only parks for 5 min? Yeah, we all know how long those 5 min really are, just like all those parked double, in a driveway or a bike lane are also only gone for 'a few minutes'.
Why was he even given a boot to install then?
Seriously,? It takes 5 news people to report a simple story like this? It's why I quit watching news years ago.
Yeah and that last tip on how to pay was totally bogus. Pay with a prepaid visa. Do not give them cash or anything thats tied to your info.
how does a spotter get a company boot to illegally boot a car with, without the knowledge of the booting company? i believe the company knew exactly what that guy was doing, but didnt if they were violating the law....i believe their greed got the best of them. they unlawfully siezed those vehicles and should be sued for their actions....as well as criminally fined.
Pay with a Credit Card. Dispute the charge after paying.
Make sure you have spare tire and jack. Remove the tire with the boot, install spare. Call booting company and tell them they left property on one of your tires. If they want it back, it will be a fee of $400. If not, you will dispose of the abandoned property. How can they boot cars if everyone does this and they run out of boots?
These folks were illegally parked on posted property.
They got a break on a technicality, AND still have excuses.
Personal responsibility ?
he parked in the lot for 6 years? im surprised his car wasn't already scrapped
Those boots you gan just remove/change out then crawl in from passenger side that way you have not broken door seal or damaged the boot. Just remember to have the car in the garage when they come to pick up the boot.
Nope.
They never get the boot back.
"What boot? What door seal? I guess your idiot wrote down the wrong plate."
Cut the boot up and sell it for scrap.
Why bother to crawl in from the passenger side to preserve the sticker? Also, in this instance, boots were placed on two wheels. How do you change them both?
Dirtbag employee went into business for himself.
permit isnt enough. should you have a boot for accidental trespassing and you cannot get granny to the emergency room.... guess who is liable?
Why are they being booted in the forst place?
Why was the spotter given the boots to begin with,
great advice to pay with a credit card - except the booting and towing companies will not take them
Yeah you have to pay the government its cut before you can rob other private citizens😂
SBS, FBI,APD..wtf!
Dude YOU ASSUME everyone has a credit card... WTF???
The solution is easy - use a Makita angle grinder to cut the boot up.
Sounds to me like the part timer was a scapegoat…
You put a boot on my car I’m taking it right off.
you are better off to cram the boots lock full of JB Weld. Then demand they remove it. my cost for waiting is $500 flat plus $9/minute
If you have the time and the money, it would be funny to super glue the lock, then pay them, and watch them have to cut their own boot off.
How about don't park where you're not supposed to.
its 100% ILLEGAL for anyone to boot cars if they are not the city's parking enforcement. you can call a tow truck to come and remove the cars but you CAN NOT boot them. doing so will get you a huge lawsuit that you will lose.
What city do you live in?
@@johntracy72 i am not going to say as my name is my job and that would narrow it down to 1 city in which people who read these could find me and put my family in danger when i am working and i will not do that to my family
but as my name is my job i know property laws, a ton of police officers and the court systems as i have been doing this job for over 20 years now. just like any job there are things you dont know when first starting out but the longer you do the job the more you learn.
It's amazing how juvenile and stupid the excuses are from bad actors when they are caught. It is irrelevant what their incompetent breakdowns were. Shut up! And take the consequences, like paying a fine, as you were trying to hit others with.
All you need is a couple tools and these are easy to remove. The boot is only as good as its lock.
As soon as they put that boot on my truck. That boot is now mine! They are not getting it back unless they pay me!
PEOPLE ARE SO DESPERATE FOR MONEY IN ATLANTA , THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME , I MADE THE GUY TAKE THE BOOT OFF MY CAR BY TAKING VIDEO AND PHOTOS OF HIM , & ACTING CRAZY , HE EVENTUALLY TOOK IT OFF