Bought the hd 6950 back in the day, flashed it with the 6970's bios, it was really cool to gain performance for free. Gave the card to my cousin in 2014, it still works after 10 years of use.
I just sold and old PC of mine, i5 3570 + HD 6850 1gb for EUR 150 altogether. The person whom I sold it to was very satisfied. That person was a budding CS GO gamer and that combo shot up to around 130 fps on medium. I am very happy the HD 6850 found a new home and a happy host 😁
The 6800 versions of the 6000 series are rebranded 5800 variants (terascale 2). It had way better drivers than the 6900 types (terascale 3). I loved my 6850, it was the first graphics card I had that felt like it could do 1080p high settings and carried me through right up until 2014.
@@somehow_not_helpfulATcrap Yeah, I actually upgraded that one pretty quickly back in the day. To a HD 7850 2gb. That one was a beast for Far Cry 3. And what a game for its time Far Cry 3 was! The HD 6850 lay alone for many years. When I sold the old PC with that HD 6850, I checked out Far Cry 3 and it it still did play it sort of OK. I don't think Far Cry 3 is any worse than Far Cry 6 for example. So many older games to be experienced by young gamers.
@@konstantinlozev2272 I went 6850 to 280x for similar reasons. You could see great looking games running very well on the 6850 but the games had to be AMD sponsored with game specific drivers like Bioshock Infinite for example. Then there was stuff like Arkham City which looked great but ran poorly imo. Big gigantic nearly no holds barred upgrade with virtually every game I wanted to play buying the 280x. I'd still be using the 280x if it didn't self delete itself.
well?? are u useing vhs or dvds today??!?!??! lololol you know the 2013 399 all in one pc consoles are doing this and slighly better... phones are doing this now....WTF are you smoking that 720p low settiigs is going well.???? is is a cheap gpu at a graage sale that ppl whokring fast food would look down on...
@@simlife445 And yet still way better than any Intel iGPU on a desktop CPU. No need to jump up and down for more internet points. Iow - This should be a place for all PC gaming fans. Let's be nice.
what a great reminder for me who bought a 1070 for 370€ at the peak of the crysis... at least I sold my previous 1060 6GB for 280€ I guess, not that much of a loss but still...
i bought an 1080 Phoenix GLH for 230€ for my old 4770k because i wanted to sell it and i took the new GPU in my new 12th gen setup. Tested some games, i regret now to have build a new 12th gen setup and i cant get rid of the 4770k system because it was with me since release. i'll keep it for fun
For Black Ops, you can remove the cap by editing "config" and "config_mp" inside the "players" folder. You can add a key bind like this: bind P "com_MaxFPS 0" The zero is to remove the cap itself, you can add any desired number there instead if you wish to cap it to a certain framerate. You will bind the command to the "P" key. You can set any key you want if you so desire. This method also works for CoD 4 and WaW.
^ That's true. I don't know why Black Ops 1 had the console removed from the game options tbh. It made it harder for PC players to change the field of view Although for CoD4 and CoD5 it's easier I believe since game console can be enabled the settings, so it's just inputting the command ("com_MaxFPS 0") and running it
I can remember Timmy Joe making fun of this channel. See how that turned out. One guy had some initial success and quickly flamed out. The other guy has built himself a good channel.
Another factor to consider these days beside perforamance/$ is watt consumption. These energy hungry cards might be cheap but id rather use a 50w overclocked 750ti than these 200+w heaters. (own a 7870xt,the taxiti one)
its not worth worrying about, go and work out the actual running costs for you. for me I pay 0.1919 per unit so running 100W for 6 hours a day every day costs 3.50 a month/42 a year, that's for 100W at full load for 6 solid hours a day which is very unlikely. regardless you claim to worry about power consumption yet run a 185W gpu thats slower on average than a 90W 1050ti.
@@oxfordsparky My card is heavily oced so it can draw above 200w. I said i own it,not using it... Things add up in a household,some run multiple pcs,maybe you have a monthly KW limit etc i dont know.They arent enrgy efficient, you might not care,some do.
@@oxfordsparky IT IS WORTH WORRYING ABOUT esp that you mentioned running cost. What makes cost effective to YOU doesn't mean that it as the same for others. Your comment is irrelevant
I just got back my main PC that was a FX 8370 GTX 980 Build with 16gb of 2133MHZ.. I replaced it with a much more capable 5950x RTX 3080 System running 32GB of system memory. The person I sold it to, had bought it for a son, who stickered up the PC and ran it into the ground as I would also do if I were that age. I was given the PC back because the family no longer used the system (since PS5 released) and it was in the garbage pile in the garage if no one wanted it. I repaired the case damage, and cleaned the system thoroughly. After a fresh windows 10 install and all drivers installed, I netted a PC that I first enjoyed for years, sold and got money for, received back, and is now my main home theatre PC. It is where this comment is being left right now. Keep OLD PCS ALIVE EVERYONE. Every PC has its place. Keep E-waste out of the landfill and find a purpose for something if you can. This PC hands down has been literally the workhorse at this house since 2010. Cant believe its back.
Its criminal this didn't have any likes till now, its dead nuts on! Though it could use a paragraph or 2 (around the "I repaired the case damage" area). When people see a wall of text they think "nah" and scroll on.
Terascale 3 had some major technical advantages over Terascale 1 and 2. 6900 series can do way more stuff in parallel that the earlier Terascale 1 and 2 cards could. Where ever that is an advantage Terascale 3 (6900 series) leaves the 4000, 5000 and 6800 stuff eating crayons.
Ah the sapphire one, I used to have the exact same card and I played a lot of tomb raider with it. I would love to see a tomb raider games test with it since I know you can get +30 fps in some of the newer ones.
I had that same card, except it was a 6950. Thing was a damn beast. I had it paired with a Phenom II 960T. Tried to unlock those two extra cores, but nothin' doing. That, paired with 8GB of DDR2 and I was in hog heaven. Played the absolute shit out of Just Cause 2 and Battlefield 3/4 on that rig.
I ran Mafia II on a GT430 and, since I wasn't into the concept of counting the FPS back then, I enjoyed it a lot. After a few years and becoming aware of "the higher the fps, the better the experience" I benchmarked the game. I averaged these numbers give or take on these games: Mafia II (Probably lowest settings): ~ 45fps GTA V (Ultra reflections): ~35-55 fps Black Ops 1 (Lowest settings): ~40-60 fps This was my rig back then: 4GB DDR3 Ram / Core i3 540 / Zotac GT430 1GB / 1600*900 monitor which I still use to play games on my 1660 Super and R5 3600XT rig 😂
Honestly your only bottleneck is your monitor, but other than that solid setup. I had a similar resolution monitor and I upgraded recently to I think 1440p but not 4k. Even then the difference is insane
@@edwingonzalez7691 I know. I connected the pc to our tv once and played every single game in my library for 15 minutes and I thought I could never go back to playing with that monitor ever again.
Ahhh, I remember the 5870 (I know this is about the 6870). I remember I already had one and found out about bitcoin- mined a coin a day when the price was around 1-2 dollars- it was one of the best mining card back then, before ASICs or other specialized mining hardware existed, it was all GPU mining back then and AMD cards were the best you could have, I was lucky I had one instead of whatever the nVidia alternative was at the time. I ended up owning 5 or 6 of them which all paid for themselves from mining. I so wish I'd held onto some of those coins, mined a few hundred of them total and made a small profit but everyone I knew in real life thought I was getting scammed... I love rubbing it in their face since they were main reason I stopped mining- I should not have and I should have saved some- hindsite 20/20! Another grand video! Love this old hardware! You've got to include the original Crysis benchmarks with these older cards though! I am a bit bias though, I did a boat-load of modding with CryEngine back when this was a new card... Mechwarrior: Living Legends is still alive! I made Inferno/Marshes/Kagoshima/Thunder Rift and finished Sandblasted/Mirage along with a lot of other smaller things.... god those were good times!
Keep on trucking with these videos man and showing kids what we had to deal with back in the day and even not too long ago... Lol I understand software is becoming far more demanding, but people without a doubt are still leaving tons of performance on the table. I remember when games dropped and not many people could max them out. I remember when 1080p was the "4K" lmao
btw, If you have an older card, that doesn't support DX11 or DX12, but Vulkan, you can try DXVK or vkd3d. Both are mainly used for Linux gaming, but afaik, they both also work on windows
You might want to try the updates NimeZ drivers on these cards. Fixes some of the issues in newer games, but not all of them. Still not GCN level performance but somewhat better
I had a decent 6780 back in time, the 6000 Series was also the first series to being rebranded as AMD replacing the gone (but never forgotten) ATI logo.
This card’s less powerful cousin (hd 6950 1GB) was what powered my temporary but glorious gaming rig from April until November in 2021. It was glorious, but ran sooooo hot because the thermal paste was kek’d
@@ij6708 unfortunately i wanted to do that but i'm running 2x4gb of ram and can't spend any more money for the moment . Everything seems to be fine tho. except Rust which has some frame dips here and there
Was thinking about getting hd 6950 for 40eur because it was the only one on usedmarket, however i was not feeling like paying that much for outdated gpu. Waited a bit more and week ago managed to snag R9 280X (HD 7970 rebrand) for 25euros , cleaned it, oiled fans. Runs like champ, it can do 1175mhz core and 1750mhz memory oc, with that its +18% on performance from stock, for example FARCRY 5 ultra FHD 62fps in benchmark. Its basically GTX 1060 3gb equivalent nowadays
Actually GPU is not that outdated, it lacks VRAM to play modern titles. Having at least 2 GB would have helped this card much, but water under the bridge .
The video before this one you promised us to try out the modded(nimez if i recall correct)drivers,really wanted to see how that will fare. Considering the card since its about $20 in my area,want something for ps2 emulation gaming
I have the Radeon 6700 XT which is two tiers below this beast of a card. The 6970 has a 256-bit memory bus while this 6700 XT only has a 192-bit bus with 40 compute units (CU). But I still get well above 100 fps in RDR2 1440p with the high preset, and that's good enough for me.
I had an XFX 6950 that was BIOS modded to unlock the full 6970 performance that was turned off to sell the initial batch of 6950 cards. It served me well into 2018 and was retired by February 2019 when I built my first Ryzen system which consisted of a Ryzen 5 2400G and relied on the IGPU until I snagged an RX 570 for $120 brand new.
I only have a gtx 1650... But also a RTX 3080. So no complaints from me. But my advice is to never buy a card below 4 gb vram and if are planning for modern triple a title at least 6 GB vram and personally I would not accept anything under 8 GB vram. Heck as I like to crank things to max in games, the 10 gb vram my rtx 3080 has even come to short. So I might go for a rtx 4080 card. My original plan was to get a 12 gb vram card, but the price and a viability made that impossible at the gpu apocalypse.
Dying light 2 at 4k with raytacing dlss performance i need to use medium textures and close chrome :( or else it runs out of v-ram and fps goes from 60-70 to 24 fps...definitively upgrading
@@Magusslettewestberg far cry 6 with all a max settings and HD textures in just 1440P eats 9.8 gb vram and I get warnings of performance and to little vram. So yes I am planning to upgrade. All ready when 3080 launched I knew 10 gb vram was not gonna cut it and planned for 3080 ti, but prices and availability. Killed those plans. So I hope for a rematch with rtx 4000 series and get a card this time with proper vram amount. That means 12 gb+
@@Magusslettewestberg I got mine december last year and only got it as a friend of mine works in a electronics shop where he got it for me for there employees price. That means more less msrp as well. So don't complain either as I am not going to lose as much money in value as those who actually pays the full current price just a few months ago.
Geralt: *uses igni in front of a guard to turn off lamp* Guard: "is that witchcraft you're doing? Now I'll let off with a warning because I know you didn't mean to do it." Geralt: *does it again* Guard: "you have forfeit your life privileges."
6000 series was very capable back in the day... Sold many a Gaming PC with a 6670, 6770 or 6790 and the 6850/70 or 6950/70 were just too much back then.... I actually have a 6970 Lightning BE in my collection. Paid 150 for it quite a few years ago and then I got another Sapphire one same as the one you tested off ebay for 25 quid. Was a beast once.
If the price were right, the only use I'd have is for a 6990, to do the multi GPU windows xp thing. But as is, I don't see the point, with what people seem to think these are worth on ebay. Shame :(
Seems like a decent overall experience. I'd say it is a good choice for older title, from around the card's release. So IMO, great GPU to use in a Windows 7 build designed for older games from around that time.
One of the most undervalued aspects of cards and this is a perfect example is bandwidth, bandwidth is pretty king in a 256bit one like this will beat a 128bit one of some levels higher because it can capture, create and convert, return to the CPU stack and the monitor output twice as fast as a 128bit card. Its prob why too my RX570 is still pretty potent as that has 256bit bandwidth on a large 8gb pool of gddr5 as I know my card will trounce 128bit variants and surprises me no one picks up on size of the data channelling. So my advice to anyone buying a video card in comparison is check out the data handling, 256 will always be better than 128, 396 of course is even better, no matter how big the memory is, the processor is etc, a 128bit data channel will choke your gaming mercilessly.
The good thing of pc gaming being able to tweak settings to get games to run better given how hard and expensive new cards are many of us have had to mess a bit more with settings to get games top run well with what we have .
Meanwhile, console gamers can just throw the game in their machines and (more or less) just play. If you like fiddling with things to make them work that’s fine, but let’s not pretend that such a massive abdication of developer responsibility is any kind of plus, especially with where chip prices are and where they’re inevitably headed.
I just recently cleaned up and sold mine and my brother's old PCs - mine with gtx 570 and his with 6970. When I was testing them I saw similar performance on both except for GTA5. Both machines easily beat 60 fps avg (both did around 80) on same-ish settings.
I didn't overpay for mine... I got it for free last week along with an i7 940, Asus P6T Deluxe motherboard and a Zalman ZM1000-HP 1000w PSU :) Oh, and a Cooler Master Cosmos S case too.
I bought a used HD 6850 as my first ever gpu, those cards were great for the price at the time. Especially since everyone was using 60hz panels at the time and 1680x1050 was very common
Great and cheap GPU for a e-sports gaming pc … or older AA/AAA titles from 5yr ago. It’s still worth co spidering f9 setting up an ultra budget pc to get the kiddies started 🥰👍
How did you managed to play BF5 on this? My 1660 mobile can't handle this game too well even on the lowest settings because of the constant stutters at the start of the game.
Honestly, the lack of support for Dx11.1 level features makes this card pretty useless compared to others that might cost a little bit more like an r9 290 or r9 285. Heck, a GTX 770 or 970 (best Nvidia card ever made together with the 1080ti) will run circles around it for quite cheaply. I mean, save for an extra month and get one of those.
Uff Energy costs are actually a Thing for me with 30cent/kWh im really Happy with a 3060ti and a Ryzen 5700X which Play nearly everything with 60-80W on 1080p and 1440p/60 is mostly around 100W
In the course of my life I had a crap ton of ATI/AMD GPUs. 9250, 9600 Pro, 2x 5770 CF, 5870, 2x 7850 CF, 380, 6700 XT. All were fine more or less but I had a Powercolor HD 6970 PCS+ and that card suuucked.. Terrible thermals, noisy as hell and the uplift from the previous gen was horrific sometimes it felt worse than the 5870.
Terascale 3 (6930, 50, 70 & 90) graphics cards were left in a sorry state. If only the drivers were a little better the 6970 would probably be on par with a Geforce 950.
You forgot to mention the 1000 lb gorilla in the room: Power Consumption. You will NEED a strong PSU to run this card. An RX 460 is like 50%-75% more powerful while using half the actual power (or less). Spend the money on something more modern and get a cheaper lower output PSU. Now if you just happen to have a 1200 watt PSU already.. then try CrossfireX! ALSO. I think there are some "legacy" driver shenanigans with these cards. Way back when I had my HD 6950s they each had a Passmark average score of 36XX. Now it's 26XX for one HD 6950. No way a GPU's average scores should drop 30% later in life. That shows the later scores are WAY lower to drop the *average* that much. What the heck is going on? I've heard of similar behavior on older NVidia cards too.
When I was building my first desktop in 2017, i didnt have money for a good gpu so i bough a used Nvidia 560ti from a friend (who also had bough it used a while back). And for some time i could play the games i wanted, but when rocket league and ds3 came out, the card was struggling for even 30 fps low (usually 1080p, but ds3 was 720p)
I wish the NVidia 3080 Ti had SLI support if it did I would buy another mobo and go 3080 Ti SLI that would be awesome I guess eventually I’ll do a 3090 Ti SLI *( when they come down to around $500ish after the 4000 series has been out for a while )* setup on a 360 or 480mm rad if I buy a tower case I hope the 4K and 5k series NVidia GPU’s support SLI one day I wanna do an SLI setup for a triple gaming monitor setup at 4K 165-240hz on high setting I play racing sims and there’s kinda hard on the old GPU especially on race day when the stands are full on fans *( you can turn a lot of that stuff off but I figure I have the card and I stream so I’ll leave them watching lol )* and there’s 30+ cars on the grid even 13-14 year old IRacing is demanding on your GPU especially when you do a WEC race those are between 3-24 hour races with sometimes up to 100+ cars on track, I minimum spruced gamed from my first PC build when I was 13 till age 25 only downside is I was upgrading a part or building a new PC every 2 years or so, so this time I saved up money *( for 2 years I’m poor and I bought my PC last year when it looked like prices weren’t coming down for a long time, I had to buy a special order prebuilt it saved $1500 over building the same PC and I only had to spend $64 on 2 A12x25’s and $30 for 2 1700 rpm redux’s the stock fans sucked and now buying gaming PC’s in my state is illegal next PC I have to build no choice )* and built for the future
I still use the hd 6000 cards as a nice mid 2000s dx9 dx10 gaming I have a hd6450 with a amd a6 3500 in my windows xp system it's perfect for stuff like alien v predator 2 and freelancer
This is one generation that I generally avoid due to the driver support being killed off so early even though there is the community drivers. A lot of them like to bake themselves when given the chance. GCN and later has always been an more attractive deal over some older cards unless for just collecting and retro gaming.
BF3 came out and I traded my HD5850 and tiny bit of cash for a HD6970, BF3 ran quite well on both but the experience on HD6970 was no compromise at the time vs the HD5850 at the same settings faring a bit worse, more than enough to notice.
Bought the hd 6950 back in the day, flashed it with the 6970's bios, it was really cool to gain performance for free.
Gave the card to my cousin in 2014, it still works after 10 years of use.
Awesome, I did the same with a 5700 and XT bios :)
Thanks for uploading so frequently
Thanks for watching :)
@@RandomGaminginHD of course i also rewatch a lot of your budget PC videos they are the best
@@potatogaming6686 dry european humor is great
@@mikeymaiku what u mean? I didn't say anything humorous and if i did could u point it out?
@@RandomGaminginHD my dearest regards for ensuring our budgets
I just sold and old PC of mine, i5 3570 + HD 6850 1gb for EUR 150 altogether. The person whom I sold it to was very satisfied. That person was a budding CS GO gamer and that combo shot up to around 130 fps on medium.
I am very happy the HD 6850 found a new home and a happy host 😁
Nice
The 6800 versions of the 6000 series are rebranded 5800 variants (terascale 2). It had way better drivers than the 6900 types (terascale 3). I loved my 6850, it was the first graphics card I had that felt like it could do 1080p high settings and carried me through right up until 2014.
@@somehow_not_helpfulATcrap Yeah, I actually upgraded that one pretty quickly back in the day. To a HD 7850 2gb. That one was a beast for Far Cry 3. And what a game for its time Far Cry 3 was! The HD 6850 lay alone for many years. When I sold the old PC with that HD 6850, I checked out Far Cry 3 and it it still did play it sort of OK.
I don't think Far Cry 3 is any worse than Far Cry 6 for example. So many older games to be experienced by young gamers.
@@konstantinlozev2272 I went 6850 to 280x for similar reasons. You could see great looking games running very well on the 6850 but the games had to be AMD sponsored with game specific drivers like Bioshock Infinite for example. Then there was stuff like Arkham City which looked great but ran poorly imo. Big gigantic nearly no holds barred upgrade with virtually every game I wanted to play buying the 280x.
I'd still be using the 280x if it didn't self delete itself.
woow .. considering this GPU is 12 years old .. it holds very well
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well?? are u useing vhs or dvds today??!?!??! lololol you know the 2013 399 all in one pc consoles are doing this and slighly better... phones are doing this now....WTF are you smoking that 720p low settiigs is going well.???? is is a cheap gpu at a graage sale that ppl whokring fast food would look down on...
@@simlife445 And yet still way better than any Intel iGPU on a desktop CPU. No need to jump up and down for more internet points. Iow - This should be a place for all PC gaming fans. Let's be nice.
@@simlife445 tell me you live in murica without telling me you live in murica lol
GTX 1080's are at an all time low right now. Can get it for around $200-$250. And 1070ti's for $170
Yeah still decent choices
what a great reminder for me who bought a 1070 for 370€ at the peak of the crysis... at least I sold my previous 1060 6GB for 280€ I guess, not that much of a loss but still...
@@gaspadorius. bought my 1060 in 2016 for 130€ and sold it last week for 160€.
i bought an 1080 Phoenix GLH for 230€ for my old 4770k because i wanted to sell it and i took the new GPU in my new 12th gen setup.
Tested some games, i regret now to have build a new 12th gen setup and i cant get rid of the 4770k system because it was with me since release. i'll keep it for fun
An used RTX 2060 can be bought for roughly that price as well if you search for It. Same brute performance, but you also get DLSS
For Black Ops, you can remove the cap by editing "config" and "config_mp" inside the "players" folder.
You can add a key bind like this: bind P "com_MaxFPS 0"
The zero is to remove the cap itself, you can add any desired number there instead if you wish to cap it to a certain framerate.
You will bind the command to the "P" key. You can set any key you want if you so desire.
This method also works for CoD 4 and WaW.
^ That's true. I don't know why Black Ops 1 had the console removed from the game options tbh. It made it harder for PC players to change the field of view
Although for CoD4 and CoD5 it's easier I believe since game console can be enabled the settings, so it's just inputting the command ("com_MaxFPS 0") and running it
@@vcl1339 yes that is correct.
Thanks for adding more information
Almost 500k subs. How freaking deserved, love the vids
Thanks :)
@@RandomGaminginHD Ur awesome x
I can remember Timmy Joe making fun of this channel. See how that turned out. One guy had some initial success and quickly flamed out. The other guy has built himself a good channel.
Another factor to consider these days beside perforamance/$ is watt consumption. These energy hungry cards might be cheap but id rather use a 50w overclocked 750ti than these 200+w heaters. (own a 7870xt,the taxiti one)
its not worth worrying about, go and work out the actual running costs for you.
for me I pay 0.1919 per unit so running 100W for 6 hours a day every day costs 3.50 a month/42 a year, that's for 100W at full load for 6 solid hours a day which is very unlikely.
regardless you claim to worry about power consumption yet run a 185W gpu thats slower on average than a 90W 1050ti.
@@oxfordsparky My card is heavily oced so it can draw above 200w. I said i own it,not using it... Things add up in a household,some run multiple pcs,maybe you have a monthly KW limit etc i dont know.They arent enrgy efficient, you might not care,some do.
Yeah kinda insane how cards nowadays suck 400+ watts
@@oxfordsparky shouldn't you also include the whole pc power consumption?
@@oxfordsparky IT IS WORTH WORRYING ABOUT esp that you mentioned running cost. What makes cost effective to YOU doesn't mean that it as the same for others. Your comment is irrelevant
I just got back my main PC that was a FX 8370 GTX 980 Build with 16gb of 2133MHZ.. I replaced it with a much more capable 5950x RTX 3080 System running 32GB of system memory. The person I sold it to, had bought it for a son, who stickered up the PC and ran it into the ground as I would also do if I were that age. I was given the PC back because the family no longer used the system (since PS5 released) and it was in the garbage pile in the garage if no one wanted it. I repaired the case damage, and cleaned the system thoroughly. After a fresh windows 10 install and all drivers installed, I netted a PC that I first enjoyed for years, sold and got money for, received back, and is now my main home theatre PC. It is where this comment is being left right now. Keep OLD PCS ALIVE EVERYONE. Every PC has its place. Keep E-waste out of the landfill and find a purpose for something if you can. This PC hands down has been literally the workhorse at this house since 2010. Cant believe its back.
Its criminal this didn't have any likes till now, its dead nuts on!
Though it could use a paragraph or 2 (around the "I repaired the case damage" area). When people see a wall of text they think "nah" and scroll on.
Interesting to see the HD 6970 doing so well compared to the HD 5870 - I've tested it and it performs like Ryzen integrated graphics in some titles!
true , my ryzen 3 4300ge performs just like that
Terascale 3 had some major technical advantages over Terascale 1 and 2. 6900 series can do way more stuff in parallel that the earlier Terascale 1 and 2 cards could. Where ever that is an advantage Terascale 3 (6900 series) leaves the 4000, 5000 and 6800 stuff eating crayons.
I know it's a couple of years old, but the way you ended the Witcher clip was hilarious. Well done.
Always look forward to your next video mate! Appreciate what you contribute to the budget building community :)
Thanks :)
When you paused after "this is going to be my last video..." my heart skipped a beat D:
😂 sorry
I've had the HD6950 , it was a great card back then and i loved it, but now it's really only good for e-sport titles and GTA , but nothing more :')
You so everywhere here
@@Annyumi_ Am I not allowed to do this? :D
I recently picked up a gtx 580 for like 20$ I can't wait to test it and see how it does now adays lol
I love the piece of dust falling on the right hand side around 1:35
also love the video keep up the great work!
6:55 You're taking a Coil Voltic, one of my favorite cars in the game :D
Ah the sapphire one, I used to have the exact same card and I played a lot of tomb raider with it. I would love to see a tomb raider games test with it since I know you can get +30 fps in some of the newer ones.
I had that same card, except it was a 6950. Thing was a damn beast. I had it paired with a Phenom II 960T. Tried to unlock those two extra cores, but nothin' doing. That, paired with 8GB of DDR2 and I was in hog heaven. Played the absolute shit out of Just Cause 2 and Battlefield 3/4 on that rig.
I ran Mafia II on a GT430 and, since I wasn't into the concept of counting the FPS back then, I enjoyed it a lot. After a few years and becoming aware of "the higher the fps, the better the experience" I benchmarked the game. I averaged these numbers give or take on these games:
Mafia II (Probably lowest settings): ~ 45fps
GTA V (Ultra reflections): ~35-55 fps
Black Ops 1 (Lowest settings): ~40-60 fps
This was my rig back then: 4GB DDR3 Ram / Core i3 540 / Zotac GT430 1GB / 1600*900 monitor which I still use to play games on my 1660 Super and R5 3600XT rig 😂
Doesn’t 1600x900 make the games look fluffy?
Honestly your only bottleneck is your monitor, but other than that solid setup. I had a similar resolution monitor and I upgraded recently to I think 1440p but not 4k. Even then the difference is insane
@@enriquejr7834 Textures look like mud. Games look cartoonish at best. It's a fun "filter" to be honest.
@@edwingonzalez7691 I know. I connected the pc to our tv once and played every single game in my library for 15 minutes and I thought I could never go back to playing with that monitor ever again.
Ahhh, I remember the 5870 (I know this is about the 6870). I remember I already had one and found out about bitcoin- mined a coin a day when the price was around 1-2 dollars- it was one of the best mining card back then, before ASICs or other specialized mining hardware existed, it was all GPU mining back then and AMD cards were the best you could have, I was lucky I had one instead of whatever the nVidia alternative was at the time. I ended up owning 5 or 6 of them which all paid for themselves from mining. I so wish I'd held onto some of those coins, mined a few hundred of them total and made a small profit but everyone I knew in real life thought I was getting scammed... I love rubbing it in their face since they were main reason I stopped mining- I should not have and I should have saved some- hindsite 20/20!
Another grand video! Love this old hardware! You've got to include the original Crysis benchmarks with these older cards though! I am a bit bias though, I did a boat-load of modding with CryEngine back when this was a new card... Mechwarrior: Living Legends is still alive! I made Inferno/Marshes/Kagoshima/Thunder Rift and finished Sandblasted/Mirage along with a lot of other smaller things.... god those were good times!
I had a chance to mine Bitcoins back then with my 5870 but I thought that was a fad.... could'a, should'a, would'a... lesson learned
that period between 2008 and 2013 was special
Keep on trucking with these videos man and showing kids what we had to deal with back in the day and even not too long ago... Lol
I understand software is becoming far more demanding, but people without a doubt are still leaving tons of performance on the table. I remember when games dropped and not many people could max them out. I remember when 1080p was the "4K" lmao
Yeah, 1080p is/was "Full HD", none of this 720p "HD Ready" bullshit! No compromises!
Now it's an entry level resolution.
btw, If you have an older card, that doesn't support DX11 or DX12, but Vulkan, you can try DXVK or vkd3d. Both are mainly used for Linux gaming, but afaik, they both also work on windows
being an radeon collector and user i'd probably get this one for the older games in my library
oh man I'm watching your vid on that very card, it has served me very well 👌
You might want to try the updates NimeZ drivers on these cards. Fixes some of the issues in newer games, but not all of them. Still not GCN level performance but somewhat better
Bro, if it ain't free I'm not buying it
I had a decent 6780 back in time,
the 6000 Series was also the first series to being rebranded as AMD replacing the gone (but never forgotten) ATI logo.
This card’s less powerful cousin (hd 6950 1GB) was what powered my temporary but glorious gaming rig from April until November in 2021. It was glorious, but ran sooooo hot because the thermal paste was kek’d
Remember guys,all these old amd gpus. 6xxx/7xxxx undervolt and overclock like crazy. If you have temps issues or card being loud just undervolt it...
I got a HD 6950 AMD engineering sample that I have flashed as a HD 6970. I bought it for $30, and It's a great retro card!
Bought a Gaming Laptop from HP with a Gtx 3060 paired with a R5 5600h and 8Gigs of ram for 850€ . Best deal i 've seen on pc since a long time
I'd buy a second stick of RAM pronto, it's probably running in single channel
@@ij6708 unfortunately i wanted to do that but i'm running 2x4gb of ram and can't spend any more money for the moment . Everything seems to be fine tho. except Rust which has some frame dips here and there
Was thinking about getting hd 6950 for 40eur because it was the only one on usedmarket, however i was not feeling like paying that much for outdated gpu. Waited a bit more and week ago managed to snag R9 280X (HD 7970 rebrand) for 25euros , cleaned it, oiled fans. Runs like champ, it can do 1175mhz core and 1750mhz memory oc, with that its +18% on performance from stock, for example FARCRY 5 ultra FHD 62fps in benchmark. Its basically GTX 1060 3gb equivalent nowadays
good decision, these two cards are like night and day even in titles which was released just a year or two after support for 6950 end (2015)
Actually GPU is not that outdated, it lacks VRAM to play modern titles. Having at least 2 GB would have helped this card much, but water under the bridge .
The video before this one you promised us to try out the modded(nimez if i recall correct)drivers,really wanted to see how that will fare. Considering the card since its about $20 in my area,want something for ps2 emulation gaming
I have the Radeon 6700 XT which is two tiers below this beast of a card. The 6970 has a 256-bit memory bus while this 6700 XT only has a 192-bit bus with 40 compute units (CU). But I still get well above 100 fps in RDR2 1440p with the high preset, and that's good enough for me.
I had an XFX 6950 that was BIOS modded to unlock the full 6970 performance that was turned off to sell the initial batch of 6950 cards. It served me well into 2018 and was retired by February 2019 when I built my first Ryzen system which consisted of a Ryzen 5 2400G and relied on the IGPU until I snagged an RX 570 for $120 brand new.
I only have a gtx 1650... But also a RTX 3080. So no complaints from me. But my advice is to never buy a card below 4 gb vram and if are planning for modern triple a title at least 6 GB vram and personally I would not accept anything under 8 GB vram. Heck as I like to crank things to max in games, the 10 gb vram my rtx 3080 has even come to short. So I might go for a rtx 4080 card. My original plan was to get a 12 gb vram card, but the price and a viability made that impossible at the gpu apocalypse.
Dying light 2 at 4k with raytacing dlss performance i need to use medium textures and close chrome :( or else it runs out of v-ram and fps goes from 60-70
to 24 fps...definitively upgrading
@@Magusslettewestberg far cry 6 with all a max settings and HD textures in just 1440P eats 9.8 gb vram and I get warnings of performance and to little vram. So yes I am planning to upgrade. All ready when 3080 launched I knew 10 gb vram was not gonna cut it and planned for 3080 ti, but prices and availability. Killed those plans. So I hope for a rematch with rtx 4000 series and get a card this time with proper vram amount. That means 12 gb+
@@GTRdeamon Yeah i want 16 aswell. can't complain as i bought my 3080 day 1 for under msrp lol
@@Magusslettewestberg I got mine december last year and only got it as a friend of mine works in a electronics shop where he got it for me for there employees price. That means more less msrp as well. So don't complain either as I am not going to lose as much money in value as those who actually pays the full current price just a few months ago.
Those heat pipes are a work of art
Also nowadays Sapphire Nitro cards look great! Nitro RX 580, RX 6650, RX 6950 XT, best looking radiators and everything in my opinion.
I bought my HD 6970 eight years ago for a previous PC build, I still have it but it's not being used in anything any more.
I love how he always murders npcs when testing anything
0:24 it was a direct competitor to the GTX 580 but was closer to a 570
Geralt: *uses igni in front of a guard to turn off lamp*
Guard: "is that witchcraft you're doing? Now I'll let off with a warning because I know you didn't mean to do it."
Geralt: *does it again*
Guard: "you have forfeit your life privileges."
What about using DXVK and D3D to get around the Direct X 11.0 feature set limitation?
6000 series was very capable back in the day... Sold many a Gaming PC with a 6670, 6770 or 6790 and the 6850/70 or 6950/70 were just too much back then.... I actually have a 6970 Lightning BE in my collection. Paid 150 for it quite a few years ago and then I got another Sapphire one same as the one you tested off ebay for 25 quid. Was a beast once.
2:14 dat grenade kill, noice!
I pulled one out of a 20€ PC. And sold the rest of the computer for even more money than that
lmfao
GPU prices are still fucking mental. RTX 3080 TI is $1.800 here. Can get two PS5's for that.
It's actually 4 PS5 digital edition, or we talk about MSRP.
@@frozenturbo8623 it's more like two here.
tbf i'd sooner pay $1800 for a 3080ti than pay 900$ for a PS5.
If the price were right, the only use I'd have is for a 6990, to do the multi GPU windows xp thing. But as is, I don't see the point, with what people seem to think these are worth on ebay. Shame :(
Seems like a decent overall experience. I'd say it is a good choice for older title, from around the card's release. So IMO, great GPU to use in a Windows 7 build designed for older games from around that time.
Another good video mate. Looking like you've lost some weight too 👏👍😁
Still have a 6950 in my lads system, has outlived my 7870 and 7950. Runs minecraft and browser games :)
One of the most undervalued aspects of cards and this is a perfect example is bandwidth, bandwidth is pretty king in a 256bit one like this will beat a 128bit one of some levels higher because it can capture, create and convert, return to the CPU stack and the monitor output twice as fast as a 128bit card. Its prob why too my RX570 is still pretty potent as that has 256bit bandwidth on a large 8gb pool of gddr5 as I know my card will trounce 128bit variants and surprises me no one picks up on size of the data channelling. So my advice to anyone buying a video card in comparison is check out the data handling, 256 will always be better than 128, 396 of course is even better, no matter how big the memory is, the processor is etc, a 128bit data channel will choke your gaming mercilessly.
The good thing of pc gaming being able to tweak settings to get games to run better given how hard and expensive new cards are many of us have had to mess a bit more with settings to get games top run well with what we have .
Meanwhile, console gamers can just throw the game in their machines and (more or less) just play. If you like fiddling with things to make them work that’s fine, but let’s not pretend that such a massive abdication of developer responsibility is any kind of plus, especially with where chip prices are and where they’re inevitably headed.
I have 2 of these in a crossfireX config. They are the ATI branded blower style and I'll probably keep them forever.
I just recently cleaned up and sold mine and my brother's old PCs - mine with gtx 570 and his with 6970. When I was testing them I saw similar performance on both except for GTA5. Both machines easily beat 60 fps avg (both did around 80) on same-ish settings.
Performance wise, they are not that different. 6970 lacks VRAM, spends more electricity ad has around 25% less cores.
That vram usage 😮😮 on mafia 2 and bo1
I didn't overpay for mine... I got it for free last week along with an i7 940, Asus P6T Deluxe motherboard and a Zalman ZM1000-HP 1000w PSU :) Oh, and a Cooler Master Cosmos S case too.
I had 5280K WC at 5GHz with 3 x GTX580 sli back in the day.
This is gonna be my last video on 6XXX series cards RX 6800 cries in the corner.
I bought a used HD 6850 as my first ever gpu, those cards were great for the price at the time. Especially since everyone was using 60hz panels at the time and 1680x1050 was very common
I got one last week for my retro build to play oblivion and GTA4. Only £20.00
Great and cheap GPU for a e-sports gaming pc … or older AA/AAA titles from 5yr ago. It’s still worth co spidering f9 setting up an ultra budget pc to get the kiddies started 🥰👍
How did you managed to play BF5 on this? My 1660 mobile can't handle this game too well even on the lowest settings because of the constant stutters at the start of the game.
Looking forward to a Nvidia 4000 series video.....10 years from now
Honestly, the lack of support for Dx11.1 level features makes this card pretty useless compared to others that might cost a little bit more like an r9 290 or r9 285. Heck, a GTX 770 or 970 (best Nvidia card ever made together with the 1080ti) will run circles around it for quite cheaply. I mean, save for an extra month and get one of those.
Just bought a GTX 1070ti for 180 dollars USD, things have turned around!
01:05
"This is possibly my last video..."
*surprised*
"...on the 6000 series GPUs"
*kalm*
I actually had the 6950 😀with a bios flash you could unlock extra shaders and basically upgrade it to a 6970
Great video as always. I have the 7950 Twin Frozr iii 3GB.
You should have used a CPU that was also out at the same time, these results only show the how good the HD 6970 is without a limiter
com_maxfps "insert a number here" should unlock the 91 fps cap in black ops. great video btw!
Upgraded from an asus strix hd7970 to a 980ti briefly then to a evga ftw3 rtx 3070ti. This video reminds me of playing all my games at 720p as well
I have a 3080, enjoy Ur 3070 ti baby
Uff Energy costs are actually a Thing for me with 30cent/kWh im really Happy with a 3060ti and a Ryzen 5700X which Play nearly everything with 60-80W on 1080p and 1440p/60 is mostly around 100W
Can u make a video about the Xeon E3 1270 v3 , it still holds up very well even with newer games
In the course of my life I had a crap ton of ATI/AMD GPUs. 9250, 9600 Pro, 2x 5770 CF, 5870, 2x 7850 CF, 380, 6700 XT. All were fine more or less but I had a Powercolor HD 6970 PCS+ and that card suuucked.. Terrible thermals, noisy as hell and the uplift from the previous gen was horrific sometimes it felt worse than the 5870.
Terascale 3 (6930, 50, 70 & 90) graphics cards were left in a sorry state. If only the drivers were a little better the 6970 would probably be on par with a Geforce 950.
Waste of power with lower perf to power consumption not even passable for a budget build
Yeah, a rx460/560 will do it for 200W less
It's a 12 year old card. Duh!
@@wamba2097 no what I meant was using a older card which use more power but performs better like a 750ti and gt 1030
I think this card is a great choice for anything before 2015
I'm currently using a system with an i7 2600k, 24gb of ram and two hd 6950's running crossfire 😎
i had a 6670 1gb modded skyrim and gta 4 while using it YEP graphics mods too :)
You forgot to mention the 1000 lb gorilla in the room: Power Consumption. You will NEED a strong PSU to run this card. An RX 460 is like 50%-75% more powerful while using half the actual power (or less). Spend the money on something more modern and get a cheaper lower output PSU. Now if you just happen to have a 1200 watt PSU already.. then try CrossfireX!
ALSO. I think there are some "legacy" driver shenanigans with these cards. Way back when I had my HD 6950s they each had a Passmark average score of 36XX. Now it's 26XX for one HD 6950. No way a GPU's average scores should drop 30% later in life. That shows the later scores are WAY lower to drop the *average* that much. What the heck is going on? I've heard of similar behavior on older NVidia cards too.
Passmark.
@@tomstech4390 and?
@@tomstech4390 No seriously. What's wrong with comparing old and newer scores on the same hardware of the same test?
Can we see a your stream library game's list?
Yeah I would not touch a card that doesn't support Vulkan, the HD7000 series is the absolute minimum.
did you try out nimeZ drivers on this GPU? I heared that also older GPUs from the terrasxale architectures can benefit a bit from them.
When I was building my first desktop in 2017, i didnt have money for a good gpu so i bough a used Nvidia 560ti from a friend (who also had bough it used a while back). And for some time i could play the games i wanted, but when rocket league and ds3 came out, the card was struggling for even 30 fps low (usually 1080p, but ds3 was 720p)
I wish the NVidia 3080 Ti had SLI support if it did I would buy another mobo and go 3080 Ti SLI that would be awesome I guess eventually I’ll do a 3090 Ti SLI *( when they come down to around $500ish after the 4000 series has been out for a while )* setup on a 360 or 480mm rad if I buy a tower case I hope the 4K and 5k series NVidia GPU’s support SLI one day I wanna do an SLI setup for a triple gaming monitor setup at 4K 165-240hz on high setting I play racing sims and there’s kinda hard on the old GPU especially on race day when the stands are full on fans *( you can turn a lot of that stuff off but I figure I have the card and I stream so I’ll leave them watching lol )* and there’s 30+ cars on the grid even 13-14 year old IRacing is demanding on your GPU especially when you do a WEC race those are between 3-24 hour races with sometimes up to 100+ cars on track, I minimum spruced gamed from my first PC build when I was 13 till age 25 only downside is I was upgrading a part or building a new PC every 2 years or so, so this time I saved up money *( for 2 years I’m poor and I bought my PC last year when it looked like prices weren’t coming down for a long time, I had to buy a special order prebuilt it saved $1500 over building the same PC and I only had to spend $64 on 2 A12x25’s and $30 for 2 1700 rpm redux’s the stock fans sucked and now buying gaming PC’s in my state is illegal next PC I have to build no choice )* and built for the future
I still use the hd 6000 cards as a nice mid 2000s dx9 dx10 gaming I have a hd6450 with a amd a6 3500 in my windows xp system it's perfect for stuff like alien v predator 2 and freelancer
This is one generation that I generally avoid due to the driver support being killed off so early even though there is the community drivers. A lot of them like to bake themselves when given the chance. GCN and later has always been an more attractive deal over some older cards unless for just collecting and retro gaming.
If heat is a problem replacing the fans are probably a good way to prolong these cards.
BF3 came out and I traded my HD5850 and tiny bit of cash for a HD6970, BF3 ran quite well on both but the experience on HD6970 was no compromise at the time vs the HD5850 at the same settings faring a bit worse, more than enough to notice.
Yeah I think there was even a special 6970 Battlefield 3 edition of the card too!
Came out in 2060? Isn't that in the future? Or is that just me? Jealous you had a quiet one, mine, when I had it, really wasn't.
I bought a 6950 new in 2011 for 300 at fry's electronics
The 7000 series is twice the performance of the 6000 series so, have you done a 7970 video yet?
perferfect for windows 7 gaming
Keeps sponsorship going hard 💪
7970 is worth messing with
Yeah great cards
I went from 7970x2 to 1060 6gb and only really noticed a power drop.
it would be nice seeing you revisiting old cards with those modded amd drivers.
50% of 720p is not 360p its arroynd 540p 360p is 25% of 720p. You always get it wrong :)
I actually have one on a shelve, nice content!