Really great that you talk about the challenges. The washer and the manipulating of the rear brackets to line up with the roof nicely. Also really great showing the installation details. I’m comparing roof racks and how they mount and want to understand the mounting system.
Spot on for the right bracket! My hardware have the same exact issue as yours. I'm trying to figure out why my right bracket is off by almost half an inch. So, I decided to stop and check out some RUclips install videos. Yours is the best I have found so far. You are the only one mentioning this issue with the right bracket. Also you are showing accurately how the cross bars should sit in the lower part of the ridges. Makes sense to me as well. Many thanks ! I'll continue the instal tomorrow
I think we installed this the same weekend lol. Wish I saw this video first since I think we both have a 2015 Jeep and looks like our rear brackets on this rack are the same. My hardware was missing parts, they sent more. But the printing of the instructions was horrible. I also had headliners that I had to remove, drill, and then reinstall and drill through those. The fitment with headliners is super tight. After all said and done, I love this rack. Can’t wait to secure all of my gear up there for family adventures. Keep up the great work on your vids. Love the channel!
@@BaptismOverland I actually went to Lowe’s and got longer bolts because I could not get them to bite with my headliners in. I am going to use a dremel to remove the ends so I can still have the caps on there
@@BaptismOverland the headliners are worth it in my opinion. Just a big pain to get all dialed in right. I Dynamat my entire Jeep and did the headliners to cut down on heat and sound. I have my wife and son who is 3 with me on every adventure and I want to make it comfortable and quiet as possible for them. It was super tough re- installing my Teraflex Wasatch Rack, cargo bags, and blue ridge overland gear attic and front shade after all of this was done. Now my roof is basically permanent. At least I can still remove the freedom panels!
7:30 Really feeling the music. Is that Toe? BTW 18:04 thanks for this 👍 more channels need to have reality install segments like this. Just sub’d your channel. I’m a TJ/LJ guy but really enjoying what your content.
I’ve been looking for awhile and considering 8-9 companies with the foremost being ARB that has one just like Front Runner but considering the price difference and availability, im sold on FR. THANKS, BROTHER
The slimline 2 is great. Don't get the slimsport. I did an install of it on our 4runner and I was not happy. There's a video of it if you want to check it out.
Ive seen people set up with it. As long as you get the half rack and not the full one you can clear it. Also when the rack is mounted to the side rails. You can slide it forward or backwards before locking it down. You MIGHT have a slight overhang in the rear if you're ok with that
@@BaptismOverland Thanks for the feedback! Now that you've had the 1/2 rack for awhile, are you happy with that versus the full rack? Also, are you finding the 1/2 rack provides enough stability for your RTT?
@@jgpyne It's def stable because the rack pretty much covers 80% of RTT. The only part that isn't supported is MAYBE 1.5 feet and I haven't had any issues with rattling or instability. Here's my thing...if I spent more for the full rack, that real estate is going to be covered with the RTT anyway so it's wasted space for more money. A LOT of people even use the Rhino Rack platform on the Jeep for their RTT and Rhino doesn't offer full rack. That's when I knew that if it works out with THAT platform, I shouldn't have any issues with this one. PLUS, I don't have to have the pillars going down the front of the Jeep like I would if I got the full rack. IF I do decide to go full rack, it's really quite simple. I'll just have to buy the full rack itself and the two pillars and put them on. The rest of the mounts for the middle and the back are already set up so I don't have to do a full install again.
So my triangle bag attaches INSIDE the triangle so it fits- held by two straps to the triangle of the roll cage and falls just above and just below this roof rack bracket. But yeah, since your saddle bag is above it, then no because the bracket is there. But you might be able to fashion something where the bag itself can be mounted to the roof rack bracket that is now there vs using the straps that hold that bag to the bracket. I don't own that XG Cargo one so I don't know how it's mounted but that's what I did with my Garvin roll cage rotopax interior mount- I was able to attach it to the roof rack brackets
I wish I saw this video when I installed mine smh. I couldn’t figure out why my rear bracket were slightly off and drilled anyways thinkin that’s how it was supposed to be not knowing you could manipulate the brackets once they are a little loose..oh well. Great video tho! Followed you on Instagram as well 🤙🏽
@@BaptismOverland yeah I am totally ordering mounts. I think for the tie down rings I am just going to buy the hardware and blast them black with some rust oleum paint. $11 for two tie down points?? Yowser
@@michaelgee7509 Right?? But ok...I thought of that too except how will they lock in? The hardware you'll get is just a loop and then it's straight but theirs has a welded washer on it so when you turn it on the nut inside the track, the washer and nut sandwiches the rail. Maybe 2 nuts? (haha that sounded funny). Let me know how you figured it out. Cuz that will save some $ for sure
Have you ever pulled your hardtop off and put the rack back on? They show it as possible, but curious of the challenges to make those swaps. I leave the top off around town , and put it back on for trips.
@@oldskooliscool81 oh gotcha. I didn't use a specific brand. It's fiberglass. Pretty easy to drill. Just put some painters tape to mark the holes and it helps keep the cut clean
According to FR they don't publish it publically because it can change from vehicle to vehicle depending on the roof type it's being attached to on each vehicle. I WILL say (don't quote me on this) I believe its around 350 dynamic and 700ish static. On the Jeep it's being mounted right to roll cage which is way stronger than other vehicles' roofs. I've been able to put an RTT and awning and about 100lbs of cargo on top with no problems. And no problems with me and my family sleeping inside that tent
@@Owl566 oh I love it! Holds up like a champ. I DID get leaking not too long ago and it's prob because I haven't tightened the bolts in awhile (you need to do that with any rack periodically as bumps and such will loosen them slightly). It's all good now
Freedom panels yes. Hard top yes but not so easily. You’ll basically have to undo the brackets attaching to pillars then remove the front bolts that go to the roll cage in the back seat. So yeah it’s doable. But keep in mind you’re now adding 67 lbs of the rack to that already heavy hard top.
Do you have a clearance dimension from top of hard top to top of installed rack? Ultra-low profile is what I'm hoping for and I'm wondering if this will clear my garage door when I pull into garage.
Went with the wider one and there IS a slight gap cuz it won't close all the way. I thought it might whistle but it didn't. You'll have to adjust until it suits you.
@@matthewthiessen474 ooof. That’s not good. Are the bolts coming through a flat surface and not where there’s ridges? And I’m assuming you used the foam pads right? Some silicon might help
I forget now but it's on their site. If you own a Jeep it goes about the same width as the Jeep and goes from the back to just after the freedom panels
Really great that you talk about the challenges. The washer and the manipulating of the rear brackets to line up with the roof nicely.
Also really great showing the installation details. I’m comparing roof racks and how they mount and want to understand the mounting system.
Spot on for the right bracket! My hardware have the same exact issue as yours. I'm trying to figure out why my right bracket is off by almost half an inch. So, I decided to stop and check out some RUclips install videos. Yours is the best I have found so far. You are the only one mentioning this issue with the right bracket. Also you are showing accurately how the cross bars should sit in the lower part of the ridges. Makes sense to me as well. Many thanks !
I'll continue the instal tomorrow
Yeah I wish I woulda seen others without having to learn the hard way
Just pulled the trigger on this rack thanks to your review and install! You can bet I’ll be referring back to your video when I’m installing mine.
I’ve loved it so far man
Beautiful! I just got the full version for my diesel rubicon
This video is helping me understand the install process. Thanks a ton
Def a nice rack. I’ve loved it so far
Thanks man. I’ve been considering a rack for my 2017 JK. This helps me make my decision. Keep up the good work. I like the tone of the videos!
I think we installed this the same weekend lol. Wish I saw this video first since I think we both have a 2015 Jeep and looks like our rear brackets on this rack are the same.
My hardware was missing parts, they sent more. But the printing of the instructions was horrible. I also had headliners that I had to remove, drill, and then reinstall and drill through those. The fitment with headliners is super tight. After all said and done, I love this rack. Can’t wait to secure all of my gear up there for family adventures. Keep up the great work on your vids. Love the channel!
I wasn’t missing hardware but I had extra ones in some areas lol maybe they sent me yours?! Lol
I also wish they made the bolts longer because it was was so tight that I had a hard time getting the nut to bite
@@BaptismOverland I actually went to Lowe’s and got longer bolts because I could not get them to bite with my headliners in. I am going to use a dremel to remove the ends so I can still have the caps on there
@@michaelgee7509 Yeah I almost did that lol But I got it to bite thank god. I guess I won't be getting a headliner for the back haha
@@BaptismOverland the headliners are worth it in my opinion. Just a big pain to get all dialed in right. I Dynamat my entire Jeep and did the headliners to cut down on heat and sound. I have my wife and son who is 3 with me on every adventure and I want to make it comfortable and quiet as possible for them.
It was super tough re- installing my Teraflex Wasatch Rack, cargo bags, and blue ridge overland gear attic and front shade after all of this was done. Now my roof is basically permanent. At least I can still remove the freedom panels!
7:30 Really feeling the music. Is that Toe?
BTW 18:04 thanks for this 👍 more channels need to have reality install segments like this. Just sub’d your channel. I’m a TJ/LJ guy but really enjoying what your content.
No it was my bro-in-laws old band Luckily I'm The Hunter
@@BaptismOverlandNICE! I like it. Sounds like a band out of Japan named Toe. You should check them out.
Dude, you rock. Love your vids
Nice work! If you ever find out that the half rack is too small you can always turn your half rack into a full rack down the road.
Yup! Just need the rack and the 2 pillars. It’s why I chose this system
I’ve been looking for awhile and considering 8-9 companies with the foremost being ARB that has one just like Front Runner but considering the price difference and availability, im sold on FR. THANKS, BROTHER
The slimline 2 is great. Don't get the slimsport. I did an install of it on our 4runner and I was not happy. There's a video of it if you want to check it out.
Do you think the Sunrider for Hardtops would be useable with the 1/2 rack? I can't find any examples.
Ive seen people set up with it. As long as you get the half rack and not the full one you can clear it. Also when the rack is mounted to the side rails. You can slide it forward or backwards before locking it down. You MIGHT have a slight overhang in the rear if you're ok with that
@@BaptismOverland Thanks for the feedback! Now that you've had the 1/2 rack for awhile, are you happy with that versus the full rack? Also, are you finding the 1/2 rack provides enough stability for your RTT?
@@jgpyne It's def stable because the rack pretty much covers 80% of RTT. The only part that isn't supported is MAYBE 1.5 feet and I haven't had any issues with rattling or instability. Here's my thing...if I spent more for the full rack, that real estate is going to be covered with the RTT anyway so it's wasted space for more money. A LOT of people even use the Rhino Rack platform on the Jeep for their RTT and Rhino doesn't offer full rack. That's when I knew that if it works out with THAT platform, I shouldn't have any issues with this one. PLUS, I don't have to have the pillars going down the front of the Jeep like I would if I got the full rack. IF I do decide to go full rack, it's really quite simple. I'll just have to buy the full rack itself and the two pillars and put them on. The rest of the mounts for the middle and the back are already set up so I don't have to do a full install again.
I'm guessing this isn't compatible with XG Cargo Gamma saddlebags as they mount over the rear triangles of the roll cage.
So my triangle bag attaches INSIDE the triangle so it fits- held by two straps to the triangle of the roll cage and falls just above and just below this roof rack bracket. But yeah, since your saddle bag is above it, then no because the bracket is there. But you might be able to fashion something where the bag itself can be mounted to the roof rack bracket that is now there vs using the straps that hold that bag to the bracket. I don't own that XG Cargo one so I don't know how it's mounted but that's what I did with my Garvin roll cage rotopax interior mount- I was able to attach it to the roof rack brackets
Great video! Really appreciated!
I wish I saw this video when I installed mine smh. I couldn’t figure out why my rear bracket were slightly off and drilled anyways thinkin that’s how it was supposed to be not knowing you could manipulate the brackets once they are a little loose..oh well. Great video tho! Followed you on Instagram as well 🤙🏽
Just finished installing my full rack this weekend from front runner. Pretty rad
Makes me wanna buy more mounts. Lol
@@BaptismOverland yeah I am totally ordering mounts. I think for the tie down rings I am just going to buy the hardware and blast them black with some rust oleum paint. $11 for two tie down points?? Yowser
@@michaelgee7509 Right?? But ok...I thought of that too except how will they lock in? The hardware you'll get is just a loop and then it's straight but theirs has a welded washer on it so when you turn it on the nut inside the track, the washer and nut sandwiches the rail. Maybe 2 nuts? (haha that sounded funny). Let me know how you figured it out. Cuz that will save some $ for sure
Have you ever pulled your hardtop off and put the rack back on? They show it as possible, but curious of the challenges to make those swaps. I leave the top off around town , and put it back on for trips.
Nope. Lol. I have an RTT on top now. I am not gonna go through all that. 😂 But yes it's possible because you just have to unbolt a couple nuts inside
Hopefully you have a hoist because the weight of the rack (though not super heavy) will def add to it
Nice! RTT is not yet in the forecast for me. Looks like 3 step process: hoist off the rack, hoist off the top, drop the rack back on.
@@ryansommer234 I would totally put up a hoist if the Jeep could even fit in my garage lol
What type of hole saw did you use?
If I remember correctly I think it was a half inch or 3/8". Best bet is to just use a step up drill bit until you get it to the size you need
I k know the size is 7/8 22mm. Just wondering if there was a certain brand or type.
@@oldskooliscool81 oh gotcha. I didn't use a specific brand. It's fiberglass. Pretty easy to drill. Just put some painters tape to mark the holes and it helps keep the cut clean
Has anyone been able to find the dynamic weight rating on these? I’m about to buy one but can’t find the dynamic weight rating…
According to FR they don't publish it publically because it can change from vehicle to vehicle depending on the roof type it's being attached to on each vehicle. I WILL say (don't quote me on this) I believe its around 350 dynamic and 700ish static. On the Jeep it's being mounted right to roll cage which is way stronger than other vehicles' roofs. I've been able to put an RTT and awning and about 100lbs of cargo on top with no problems. And no problems with me and my family sleeping inside that tent
@@BaptismOverland that’s what I thought too, thank you for you’re quick reply! Are you happy with it? How’s the finish holding up?
@@Owl566 oh I love it! Holds up like a champ. I DID get leaking not too long ago and it's prob because I haven't tightened the bolts in awhile (you need to do that with any rack periodically as bumps and such will loosen them slightly). It's all good now
@@BaptismOverland sweet - thank you!
Great video
Is it still possible to take off the hard top?
Freedom panels yes. Hard top yes but not so easily. You’ll basically have to undo the brackets attaching to pillars then remove the front bolts that go to the roll cage in the back seat. So yeah it’s doable. But keep in mind you’re now adding 67 lbs of the rack to that already heavy hard top.
Do you have a clearance dimension from top of hard top to top of installed rack? Ultra-low profile is what I'm hoping for and I'm wondering if this will clear my garage door when I pull into garage.
I'll measure for you this weekend and let you know.
This is a great video , Very very helpful , 11:02 Did that panel come dented ?
No that was me lol. I accidentally banged it slightly on the corner of my workbench. Lol
Do you know the total height of the finished rack from the top of the roof?
It was about 6” but I’ll check again to make sure
How did you decide which fairing to use?
Did you mount the two sides of the fairing close together or did you separate them slightly?
Went with the wider one and there IS a slight gap cuz it won't close all the way. I thought it might whistle but it didn't. You'll have to adjust until it suits you.
It looks good overall but it’s sucks they made it so tall! The mounting side rails could be a good inch shorter- maybe even 1.5 inches shorter
I said the same thing! It could have definitely been "slimmer" since that's what it's called lol
What did you do with your rotopax water mount?
Look at my interior walk around vid. I was able to fabricate the mount to the new roof rack mount inside. I'm kinda proud of it actually lol
Awesome man! Thanks!!
I'm looking to install this on my JKU as well! How much did it add to the top off your jeep height wise?
Not a lot at ALL. I don’t even think 5”
@@BaptismOverlandhave you had any issues with the rack leaking large amounts of water? Mine is coming straight from the brackets.
@@matthewthiessen474 Whoa. I haven't had any leakage.
@@BaptismOverland maybe I'll try to tighten the bolts a bit more but water is just pooring in.
@@matthewthiessen474 ooof. That’s not good. Are the bolts coming through a flat surface and not where there’s ridges? And I’m assuming you used the foam pads right? Some silicon might help
Utol. Dimensions ng roof rack if you have time pls? Salamat-
I forget now but it's on their site. If you own a Jeep it goes about the same width as the Jeep and goes from the back to just after the freedom panels
Drilling was definitely not fun lol.
Nope 😂