How hard is it to avoid sales taxes by becoming a New Hampshire dealer?
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As a dealer in Ohio, Doug from Switchcars is subject to some strange laws and regulations. Years ago, he tried to work around them by setting up a dealership in New Hampshire. It didn't go very well.
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Doesn’t that realtor have a conflict of interest? A good revenge would have been reporting her to the state agency overseeing real estate agents
shes probably in bed with them too.
They always look after their own.
dasaini or sue her
I'm an agent in NH and what she did was completely unethical.
@@aarond1623 absolutely unethical. But we all know nothing will happen until someone with lots of money or power decides to take her down.
"Can I register this car?"
"Uhh, We don't do that here"
He would have gotten all his problems fixed with a little money under the table. The inspection officer would have gotten $30k and a free Porsche. The lady at the DMV would have been invited to a nice dinner and an envelope with $50k. All in he would have had a shoe box used car dealer around $100k instead of blowing money on that condo and renting out the nose for 2 years. Then free tax on Porsche's for decades.
He needed a good lawyer to handle the licensing and business setup. Cities and boards play games with permitting and other things.
Mark M fuck that shit, rather lose money than ever give in to that kind of crap. If anything he should have lawyered up and sued them.
@@markm0000
Does a NICE VW with paint, manuel and a gated shifter count as a porsche?
@@SlidTossedPissed only if you chop the top, and add porche badges... =p
I feel like Doug should have found a cooler way to get back at the condo lady.
or maybe he did but isn't willing to tie himself to it publicly.
self incriminating?
We’ll see what VINWiki video comes out after statute of limitations expires
When is the Doug's Not In Jail party?
@Famous Benz That's fucking stupid. You should be ashamed of yourself.
What if she's fugly?
Today I learned, Doug really has money like that lol
if you have not been tracking, these stories are about guys wheeling and dealing in exotic cars, vintage race cars as a teen and early 20's, buying multiple cars on a whim as they sit in a jury box... a guy that cant stop polishing his special porsche. these guys all have deep pockets.
I started with nothing and went broke twice, once shortly after this story. I'll tell the whole story of my ups and downs in the car business sometime.
switchcars that would be a great story I love hearing how people come up from nothing
@@switchcars I'd love to hear that story. I'm 18 and I've been thinking about trying to get into the exotic vehical sales business, not just for the financial profit but also because of my passion for rare exotics. It's a big dream living in Maine where everyone drives a lifted truck but I wouldn't mind moving out of state.
Pfft! More bankruptcies than President Trump!
I will NEVER live in a HOA neighborhood!!
One of my friends lives in one. They claim they don't have the money to repave the road but they some how have money for a contract with a towing company to tow any car that parks on the street in front of someone's house instead of using the guest spots a block away.
@@jasenrock Oh, I figured the property company would have to pay for them to make trips out to look for offenders. So you're saying they roll around looking for offenders for free in the hopes that they find cars to hook?
That’s exactly what those assholes do
@@jasenrock That explains why my city is having trouble storing all of the cars they catch because the fees are so high that they quickly exceed the value of the car. Most of the cars they catch are junkers that broke down and people would rather just get another junker than pay to get the car out and then pay more money to fix what broke on the car that caused them to abandon it in the first place.
Now my city won't tow a car unless it's blocking the road cause they don't have anywhere to store it.
Poor
“Taxachussetts”😂 so true
i've heard massachusetts residents love the taxes there so much that they move to a different state.
Mass residents love taxes. Lived here my whole life and every time there is a voting to raise taxes for something stupid it gets granted. Last month it got voted on for another 4 % more out of every check to make sure the lines are fully painted on streets and highways😤
Sales tax on used items is pure BS. Not uncommon for the tax collected on a single item (changed hands multiple times) to exceed the value of the item. That's just wrong.
Why? America is so fucked because a lot of the taxes that should be collected aren't
And how about the states (Mass & VA) that charge vehicle excise tax every year? A tax on a tax, that keeps on going!
@@BloodSweatandGears Fuck taxachusetts.
@@MrEeeaddict It's fucked because government keeps doing things it has no business doing. Like deciding who can sell cars and how.
We get taxed in Onterrible Canada on used cars, and they dont even use the sale price. They use the wholesale retail value, according to their garbage 'used vehicle information' package, which they also charge you for on every vehicle sold privately.
As a lifelong NH resident, I can say that Doug's experience dealing with the government here is sadly not too far out of the ordinary.
@Constitutionalist Libertarian - I understand and agree with all that. While I don't have your background, I know he was trying to game the system. I recognized that and chose not to mention it in the spirit of kindness. I do stand by what I said: Dealing with the NH government can be both weird and exasperating. I've experienced similar roadblock tactics myself when NOT trying to game the system!
By the way, I really like your user ID. Judging by it alone I would guess that you and I would tend to agree on many subjects.
@Constitutionalist Libertarian- I am indeed constantly surprised by raging socialist idiots getting continually re-elected. I simply can't understand why some people want this great country to become like the USSR (everyone was so happy and well off there...). People from every generation of my family back to the Revolutionary War were patriots who served this country and I respect their legacy, and that of all others who have fought for our freedoms, and the value of this great republic. I have little to no tolerance for anything that is designed to remove or reduce our constitutional freedoms.
That being said, I don't believe that this is the best forum for such a discussion, though I appreciate you sharing your feelings. Indeed, we do seem to agree on many things. :)
I live in berwick Maine 👍🏼
Fellow Nh’erite here probably worst state to drive exotics in unless your in like Hampton or rye
My VINwiki Montana LLC shirt is honestly my favorite shirt. Gets so many amazing comments.
I am a lifetime resident of New Hampshire and have a dealer license. All you gotta do if find a vacant lot and put a large shed or “Office” on the lot and you will 100% get a dealer license. Residential never works. It’s gotta be zoned commercially. Doug should really give it a try again.
probably worth it to speak to an attorney on this stuff. Wouldn't hurt as you cant pick and choose how to enforce a law.
Last time I was this early, JR Garage still thought they knew what they were doing.
Shirt goes well with the story!
Well. That was depressing.
Back in the sixties, my dad had enough cars to fill every square foot of free ground on his parents postage stamp... and one license plate. After a year or so, my grandmother gets a letter in the mail from PennDOT demanding she, since all cars were in her name, obtain a dealer’s license because my father was swapping the plate so often it was agitating the paper pushers in Harrisburg.
Back in the good ole days Pennsylvania would give anyone a dealer license
“Granola People”
I feel I must have missed the point in this story? 🤔 Tried to get a dealer license, couldn't, then sold the house?
Corruption. The great american escape. When you don't have the necessary laws to enforce what you want to do and just come up with them out of the blue. So, state, local and private corruption in this case.
I agree, is the point to not buy A lake view condo rent a house and you couldn’t get what you wanted and lost money so just pay the sales tax? Lol
@Stuart: Watch it again.
In summary, he tried to avoid paying sales tax by exploiting a set of loopholes that would appear to work given the letter of the state law. However, in attempting to implement the exploit, he discovered that the actual execution of the law prevented him from doing so. I'd say the point of the story would be that even if your homework suggests that the system can be gamed, sometimes society will not tolerate it.
And also, that condo HOAs are crazy.
@@rossdavis5833 All HOAs
Another great story, thank you for sharing!
Damn, I have family in New Hampshire I'm surprised they are all being tools up there about the dealer license stuff. Good story too. Can't imagine having to pay 4-5 mortgage's! Lol
“That’s not my wife, that’s a kangaroo”
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I live in Maine and work in New Hampshire. I am often asked why I don't live in NH where there is no state income tax. BS like this is rampant in NH, and property taxes are insane (in any desirable area). I'll gladly pay Maine income tax to avoid their BS.
New Hampshire and SC are a lot a like. Filing cabinet that locks and a sign with 6” letters and a 96 sqft building/office . Bond and insurance boom 💥 your a car dealer lol
Are you serious? This is good!
Marvin Walcott I was being sarcastic. There’s way more
This is why Doug remains one of my favorite storytellers.
Doug is back 👌🏼👌🏼
Same thing goes where I live you can not put a for sale sign on your car or a for sale sign on your house they'll make you remove it and you can not park and reverse your car will get towed away
You fell victim to the tyranny of the town selectmen. It's the great irony of New Hampshire living. The state will generally let you "live free or die" but then the town selectmen will come in and fill the void by micromanaging every aspect of your life and arbitrarily enforcing different rules however they want. Great video though.
Wife: It’s either me or the cars
Him: “at the time I was going through a divorce”
Hey VINwiki. I worked as a wholesale salesman at a bigger dealership in Maine and heard from my manager that the bigger dealerships actually look for people who do this and register as a dealership at they're house just to get a license. Then they shut them down. Have you guys in the past ever run into this?
Another crown Vic story. I daily drive a 2000 CVPI I LOVE IT! Best first car ever!
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Each time I see Doug on a preview, I don’t care who odd of a title it is, I’m watching it 👌🏻
Road to a million congrats guys
Never thought I’d see New Hampshire featured on this channel. Greetings from Strafford, New Hampshire!
Constitutionalist Libertarian it honestly wouldn’t have even saved much money. It’s dirt cheap to register a car here to begin with.
Title: “How hard is it to avoid SALES TAXES...”
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Much love from New Hampshire
I live in Taxachusetts, great assessment of the north east...spot on.
You’re a good guy, Doug!
I love the pink flamingos reference, "babs where is the egg man?"
I cannot think of one time I’ve considered visiting New Hampshire. I did a school report in the 4th grade and struggled to find anything interesting in comparison to other states
lol
$250,000 for a lake front condo, not bad. Here in Denver you can get a condo with a nice view of an ally for $500,000
Ok we def need a Live free or die vinwiki shirt...please..
Vinwiki or die?
*Doug abides by every NH law and sticks to the rules and regulations*
NH: Wait that's illegal...
I had almost same experience
trying to start a used car Dealership in NH. In the end cut my losses cost me just under $50000. Complete crap way to run a state.
hahahaah Doug as always...thanks for sharing the most Adventurous times in your Car World !(: great story
I hope my heaven is just like PRP, great video and story, keep up the great work!
I live in Boston now, I grew up in NH. It's like a 10yr time warp and ass backwards up there. No sales tax, no motorcycle helmet law, insurance for auto & Moto isn't required, also no seatbelt law. But they passed a hands free law a couple of years ago. Which is fine for most states (and generally great for safety), it is contradictory to the "Live Free or Die" mantra. Very scenic though.
So basically he tried to open a car dealer out of his house and they didn’t let him. The end
Love Doug even more after watching this video.
Doug that condo board thing exists at every condo
Nice Tag Heuer Carrera, Doug.
Weird experience, after my dad sold his Subaru dealership in NH he got another dealer license for this purpose as well as to not have to register all the cars we had at the time and it was nowhere near this difficult. Maybe it was because everybody in the field knew who he was since he was prominent in the small world of NH dealers
In New Jersey you get a used car dealer license if you have a cubical 2 parking spots and a phone line. They have big offices called multi dealer facilities that rent the cubical and parking spots out. I pay 500 monthly for my dealer facility
Damn I watched the whole video and not a single cat was killed.....
What is the Ohio policy on wire fraud to get interest free loans of $160,000?
Based on this story and the language used, I'd wager that Doug is a Libertarian. I hope so anyway.
One of the issues that every buyer of anything anywhere is sales tax, property tax, income tax, phone tax, death taxes.....................
At least theres not a tax on your taxes
@@peppertalks6948 there is on some things.....
@@peppertalks6948 in Portugal , if you import a car, you pay a tax on a tax
@@peppertalks6948 California taxed your taxes so they can tax you while they tax you. #taxed
This guy always has the best shirts
Granola people made my day!
I thought he was going to say he sold the HOA lady a car dirt cheap and was able to do whatever he wanted from there on. Oh well.
The Mexican Stig Is Back 🙌🙌
I truly loath these power hungry bureaucrats
Ed, when u reach the milion subs
You, rabbit and Doug should make a video together
It would ever work. Three alphas in the same room trying to tell a story would be a battle.
They'd just sit around finding different ways to say, "Kimmie, do you have butt implants?"
Wait. Correct me if I didn't follow along correctly,but did he say that he bought a condo while going through a divorce? I don't think that would be a purchase I would be willing to make,until I settled the mess that is a divorce.
Come to Missouri, Doug. A little bit of sales tax, but no hassles in business locations.
these are called "illegally promulgated underground regulations" and are usually outlawed by the state's administrative procedure act (e.g. here in California, commencing with Government Code 11340).
So... how can a legitimate registration license request be turned down for reasons totally not legit according to the state's own laws? I mean I'm from Europe and I can fight this. In the US, this must have a workaround. Record them, make official complaint, local, then city, then state, then federal... That request was within the scope of law and basically a formality, the state has no power to say "yeah we don't want that." Seriously WTF America.
That realtor is out of her mind. There is a code of ethics that realtors are required to follow, but seems to disobey the code of ethics as a whole. There are good realtors out there people, trust me.
MaxSpeed there is always one like this in every neighborhood
In summary, very hard.
The problem with New Hampshire is that you can’t have tint and emissions are strict. On the upside you can have any car from ‘95 or before and it doesn’t apply for a few tests. I live on a dirt road, so if a car is going to be low, it better be bagged.
More Doug !
Love your Dad's Guild Starfire.. I have a vintage Guild.
The last time I came this early, she didn't talk to me again
I'm from taxachusetts it sucks have to pay lots of sales tax
Taxifornia disagrees.
I just started sending old pickup trucks from Idaho to New Hampshire to flip. No rust trucks are impossible to find up there. I pay $100 to register them, NH doesn’t title anything older than 99’. I sell the truck with a NH bill of sale and the NH registration. I hope they don’t throttle my truck registrations at the DMV. I can get my Mom and Dad to register them as well since they are always cash sales under $10,000.....hopefully 😕
NY and California state tax... Yea let that sink in
@@CurtisOrionJonesBA-kn6km 4.5% in NY....
Arizona is high as hell too.
Being from Maine and having gone to school in NH and NY, he's spot on with the politics in New England.
Should’ve filed a 14th amend suit. Hands down equal protection
3:14 "so I'm like, 'this is great' "... cause I already have a cardboard box!
Does the realtor have a cat? Payback! Hahaha
6:50 Cop was fishing for a bribe. Realtor was fishing for a beatdown in the parking garage.
Of course when it comes to registering your supercar, it has to be Doug
So you were basically trying to scam NH and OHIO and got caught. I live in Maine near the NH border, and there was a time when it was very common to buy and register the car in NH. But over the years, they have been clamping down on it to the point where its pretty much impossible
This perfectly describes New Hampshire
dont rlly remember his name ever but he's one of my fav haha
I knew instantly that this was Doug's
Alabama is like that ez as crap to get a license but florida is hard af
Should've consulted with Ed, the king of gaming the system with all kind of shenanigans while still staying on the legal side of the law!
1:05 Luxury Auto Collection 😍🇺🇸
Great story! Easier to pay your taxes!
1:04 talking about ohio shows picture of LAC luxury car dealership in Phoenix...AZ a long ways from ohio
That's the problem from living with Association they don't let you do anything
In finland we have a 25% import fee on all vehicles : l The new supra starts at 85 000 $
Dave Pawson yeah, it kinda does. But a lot of cars are rusted to shit anyways because of the winters and road salt
South East Asia has 200-300% import duties for cars. No big deal.
@@ybmb1121 Is that why everyone drives mopeds?
Is their any sales tax credit for each household?
Dad working for you? That's a reversal of traditional roles I didn't see coming.
I love living in New Hampshire but some things are just ass backwards here
Hey Doug it's Doug, would you and Ed give each others take on being an auto broker. I have a mind like you guys and I wanna break into the business. Gracias ciao'
Bro I love that shirt where could I get one?
NH is a pretty nice place, I like it here
So... what happened in the end? No dealer license ever received? Parents moved? Why were you trying to get a dealer license there to begin with? So much left out of this story.
I love your parent's Saab wagon! 2001?