Joe Rogan Experience
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2018
- Sir Roger Penrose OM FRS is an English mathematical physicist, mathematician and philosopher of science. He is Emeritus Rouse Ball Professor of Mathematics in the University of Oxford and Emeritus Fellow of Wadham College, Oxford.
And he won this year's Nobel Prize for Physics, Roger Penrose is a true legend. Joe you gotta have him back.
The reason I also came back
LEGEND
Wanted to say this exact thing. Like this comment people though I think Joe does not read comments but still.
Joe should invite him again.
LIKE if you agree 👇
Hes too big now to come back on rogan
This man is 87 and physically and mentally present, much respect.
87 ? serious?
So do you think Trumps speech deficiencies are due to age or ...?
Exocomp Stimulating the mind can help keep the neurological connections quite young
@Sully Sullivan guys i found the 12 year old
amen
JR really is a very underrated interviewer, it's obvious Penrose is a little tense at first,likely he has never heard of Joe or his podcast but Joe does the perfect thing,just asks him the first question and lets him speak, then with his follow up questions makes it obvious he understands and has read his work,all these things clearly relax Penrose and make for a wonderful interview.Kudos to Joe...
While Jimmy Fallon is busy at interview with some dumb boobist
go to wikipedia. look up Roger Penrose. follow some links to some of his papers. if you think Joe Rogan has read this shit, or could understand it, you be smokin crack. mixed w PCP.
@@ccole1255 I meant in a more general sense that he understands his ideas behind his theories, I mean what % of even scientists understand the intricacies of Penroses theories? Hardly any..
And joe also had to deal with the fact that he has no idea what Penrose is talking about 😂
@@swfcocs1 exactly. He might have read some of his divulgation work
What makes Joe Rogan such a great interviewer in my mind, is that he asked Roger Penrose a question that required a lengthy explanation, and he listened to his answer without interrupting him once. He didn’t interject with a dumb question or stupid joke and kept the continuity of the answer so that I could somewhat understand his explanation. I’ve learned more from his podcasts than pretty much any other platforms.
Heck yeah! I'll try and be like that more. It's only a fair way to interact
Yes but frustratingly he doesn't always do this. Hes better than most though
I concur.
There is only 1 thing i don't understand ! ...Everything he's talking about lol...
Making a very strong point. Also informed, open minded and clever careful and tactful. Also helps that he is his own boss with no schedule to push.
I hope you realize how big a deal this interview actually is. Sir Roger Penrose is one of the greats. It's like sitting down with Einstein, or Newton. I love that Joe just sat there and let him talk.
He's such a lovely guy as well. Not pompous at al like such of his peers. Really enjoyed this.
Right!? And UNBELIEVABLY 1.3 thousand ppl thumbs down?. Must be the meat head side of his audience.
@@Taco_ocaT - 36 K to 1.3 K - if this were an election (which it sort of is) I'd call it a landslide (96 to 4).
@@Taco_ocaT actually we meat heads love this shit. The mind is also a muscle. Need the mind gainz too bruh.
Not to downplay the man but comparing to Einstein or Newton is a stretch.
I love how the smartest people will all say " I'm not sure about that" instead of just making shit up when they don't know.
CamWilliamsonOfficial
Indeed.
The seekers are used to not knowing, and it drives them, it doesn’t discourage them.
Absolutely. It's something I actually look for in people. Often learn more about people from what they don't know than what they do.
Seriously. I hate the notion that not having a piece of knowledge or an answer is "bad" or something to be ashamed of, to the point where people will just make stuff up. I wonder if it's mostly American culture, or just something innately human. Either way it's obnoxious as hell. Probably the best thing about the internet nowadays - being able to fact check people's BS.
Like back before smartphones you might get lost driving and have to ask someone for directions. You'd never hear "I'm not sure", instead half the time it'd be complete nonsense. Infuriating. I wonder if it starts early on in public school where not having an answer is worse than having a wrong answer. Or teachers afraid to look "dumb" in front of their class.
hrmm... im not sure about that
He and people like him flaunt no pride. Seeking the truth makes you humble.
The amount of self control Joe displayed here to not mention DMT even once is commendable.
0:00 Consciousness.
3:33 Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem
7:00 Understanding
14:03 Stuart Hameroff's Letter
25:08 Animals
30:45 What is Consciousness?
35:01 Quantum.
43:00 Cosmology
56:08 Dark energy
1:06:46 Hawking Points
1:12:45 The Multiverse
1:17:53 Dark Matter
1:20:55 Other Intelligent Life
1:29:55 Truth Dance
You da real MVP
Thanks for time stamp.
✨✨✨
Thanks a lot. Good job.
Thank you
Great interview Joe! You drew him out with minimal interruptions. You didn't use ANY foul language (which i'm sure he appreciated). You let him build his argument through pregnant pauses. You did everything right in this interview and i got the sense we saw the real Penrose as a result. Well done.
Tom I have tourettes and cant stop swearing but this interview inspired because JOe is usually such a bad ass :P
What do you mean by "pregnant pauses" ?
@@idcaf A pause that gives the impression that it will be followed by something significant.
Pregnant pauses he says haha. Patience
Makes one wonder what the utility is in swearing when we discipline ourselves not to use it when in the presence of highly intelligent people.
This was the best JRE I've listened to yet. Please rope in more 80 year old physicists.
Straight up! Wow. The meeting of worlds and generations!
GET LEONARD SUSSKIND ON PODCAST
@@tripp8833 that's a really good idea actually.
@Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg Absolute nonsense Ezra. You might wanna read a book sometime.
You've clearly missed all the episodes with Bert Kreisler
"I shouldn't make a statement if I don't really know" Words to live by.
Indeed. Argument is supported by evidence; otherwise it is simply assertion. Sadly modern life is full of the latter, posited as argument. And I include my students (top 10 global university). Our education system shifted radically in the late 60s and critical thinking was one of its main victims. Things are now such that we are teaching all incoming under grads thinking skills. This is not the fault of the students I hasten to add; they remain motivated and intellectually curious for the most part. But we haven't given them the tools to organize their ideas.
Exactly and even when you understand this it's still easy to forgot, you have to remind yourself.
Congratulations Sir Penrose for winning 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics!
Yes, many congrats to a living legend. Interestingly; When your knighted it’s your first name that is used - so, ‘Sir Roger’ 🇬🇧
Who would’ve thought the two greatest minds of physics and Joe Rogan would be sitting in the same room?
That comment deserved more props, dude.
Jaime is an expert on all topics
Brilliant.
i listened to Joe Rogan pod cast casually he has actually had quite a few physicists on his show.
STOP BEING BE A SHEEP ahahahaaa
I have watched this three times now and after long consideration, I have come to the conclusion that I think this is in English
I think you hit the nail on the head!
Its in american not english lol
it takes a long time to say anything about this podcast
You have arrived at stage 1: access concentration.
@@reecevazey4278 you dumb shit
Joe "let's just not mention DMT this time" Rogan
Fabio Tieri I audibly laughed at this comment
If he understood the endogenous function of DMT, as is theorized by Christof Koch (tell Shermer it's 'Coke," not "Cock"), then a theoretical investigation of the sense experience of some of us is warranted; this is the Quantum Consciousness guru, after all. Gulio Tononi's Phi is a 1D quantum algorithm, scattering into 3 waves, giving SDRs for 3 physical dimensions and past-present-future transforms for the entire system of unconscious physics processing. Language is a level 6 HTM phenomenon, at the internal abstraction to external communication interface.
There is a single (to my knowledge) ball lightning video on youtube. If consciousness can be said to be an electrical value in topology, contained by a bilateralized magnetic field as in the brain, at a precise differential, permeable membrane in a larger topological structure (Phi in theory, if I am not mistaken), then this video haunts me. What if a human brain were to take a Pineal direct hit from a neutrino, anti maybe (?). Sean Carroll and Katie Mack talked about the vague mystery surrounding tunneling events and the quantum bubble of death. Could a collapse (?) be contained into a cold (energy, not matter; second Law my A$$) fusion reaction? Brain freeze w/o ingesting anything cold, true vacuum state of the Higgs field? Not hospitable to biology.
@cloudykai The solution to consciousness at a scientific level? Brenda Dunne and Robert Jahn, what were they trying to accomplish w/ their lives? The Bro-gan-verse is made up mostly of infants who stare blankly @ a screen and try to coordinate movement in a mirror neuron role playing of real humanity in 2D.
Joe "I don't know why people call me a shill" Rogan.
@cloudykai Learning on youtube is both easier and harder than it need be. My point is that sharing the answers that are objectively best has been made impossible. I will change what I can, how I can. Arrogance is a matter of prospective, impatience and frustration are more what is meant. Btw, Eric and Bret Weinstein on Rogan sent me on my path; I now find it impossible to listen to him anymore, some guests are worth learning from.
@cloudykai I like Eric's take: simple as can be coherent. The definition of intellectualism is the problem. The University system has essentially "lied" about how close we are to solving the "mysteries," and I mean the big ones, all the big ones. If it comes around faster than it otherwise might, I'm glad I have time on my finger tips. Email is a wonderful thing. If you think you have a solution to a real academic problem, the window is open. If you don't matter like me, credit is not even a question. Only change is an answer.
Joe: What is consciousness?
Sir Roger: Hold my teacup...
My thoughts on what they spoke of:
I personally think, based on my experiences and understanding of science, human bodies are just receiving a signal and that is why we have such a hard time understanding it.
It makes sense to do. We effectively do this we drones and robots; its often better to have the main computer or pilot outside of the system and just send data to and from it...sometimes thats the only viable way to do it, otherwise the device becomes too impractical by weight and power limits, so think of it as a evolutionary advantage as the reason for it being that way.
I think consciousness comes from an infinite null space / 0 point space which all reality is connected to (or represents computer code in a simulation scenario), and permeates outward through 1 dimensional space (i.e. strings in string theory, et al), then 2 dimensional space (such as branes or a surface of a black hole), and of course to 3 dimensional space where you're a meat puppet on string theory strings.
I believe this works in a "natural" universe, holographic universe / one on the surface of a black hole, or computer simulated reality.
I think that extra dimensions allow for the strange behavior we see in quantum mechanics; the dimensions are just small enough to so only these particles and effects can go through and then whatever stuff happens behind (or above) the 3D scene, causing the mystery.
I also think that our universe is, in effect, just a representation of a statistical average; the multiverse stuff exists in a fictional way, just like the averages in a computer model don't really exist; my understanding is we filter them out, the super positions, using constructive decoherence (I think it was called?) to kind of cheat and give the most likely / average answer when we do quantum computing, and yeah I basically I think that is what reality is and why the variables we have in our reality are there as well, which is another mystery we ponder.
There is another old theory, as I recall, from ancient greece, that numbers must exist some way in reality effectively for them to somehow exist in our heads.
I like to think of a computer simulation in this instance, where the numbers are digital and thus do and do not exist, and I feel that is effectively the answer to that problem and others, even if computer aren't involved.
Also, if what Sir Penrose said about photons is true, well we know and have managed to fuse photons together to make a solid / tangible photon of 3 photons mushed together, last I heard... so the possibility of a alien civilization coming from a past universe to ours is plausible if they could make immortal bodies of photons or other form of energy...although they would have had a very boring wait. lol
@@Alienami 🤙⚡
@@Alienami Consciousness does not exist, its just an umbrella made up term because we do not know how the Brain works.
AI is beginning to prove that self awareness, thought creativity is indeed a computation and that Sir Roger Penrose is just plain wrong.
😂
@@TheReferrer72 beginning to prove, yet its to early to say that what you say has been indeed proven. Why do you afirm so confidently that consciousness doesnt exist then?
you should not, as sir penrose and many intelligent people not do, make statements when you really don't know.
Half a million people have seen this in 20 hours! Shows the hunger people have for this kind of content when its delivered in this way.
It's fast food science baby!
amen..........PREACH
It's my chance to de-dumbify but I always leave realizing I'm even dumber than I thunk.
@skankhunt42 You do have a cynical bias. Thats pretty sad.
@skankhunt42 95%? Please enlighten me how you came up with this number? :)
Wow. This guy is unbelievably brilliant, and razor sharp for any age, nevermind 87. Shout out to 007 for letting Q out of the lab to do Joe's podcast.
@Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg Hey buddy. It's alright to just say you didn't understand any of it.
@Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg You have lots of spare time to post comments on youtube, keep seeing you on every thread trying to undermine an 87-year-old legendary Oxford professor.
I pity your desperation for attention, yet utter insignificance
Lol
@Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg isn't that the point of science and understanding to say and ask the ifs, ands, and buts to try and differentiate what is, what was and what could be?
@Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg Ezra have some respect. He's trying to have a general chat about some topics which, frankly, only 1% of the population can understand in all their technical details. If you need the details fleshing out you can buy his books on conciousness from Amazon. His physics papers are all online. You can see his debate with mathematicians and Philosophers on his Consciousness books from the 70s and 80s if you go into the archive of "The New York Review of Books" online. The Godel paper he mentioned is the most celebrated mathematical result of the 20th Century - it astonished mathematicians. If you want to judge it for yourself, the paper is here, be my guest www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=jacqkrol.x10.mx/assets/articles/godel-1931.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjo9ZfS26rfAhXLUBUIHQlRBnQQFjANegQIChAB&usg=AOvVaw0IoYIlDKSXBEppyDz0R8vR
I love the bit where Roger Penrose, while discussing consciousness, says something like, 'but this isn't my main area of study, I've only written 2 or 3 books on this, I suppose I'm better known for something I did with Black Holes...'
42:00
Beautiful
That quote is even more funny since he was just was awarded the Nobel prize for that "something with black holes"
Big flex... lol
Who is here after Sir Roger has won the 2020 Nobel prize in Physics ?
Literally every single person who sees this comment
I had watched this episode already, but I'm watching again after the announcement. Kudos to Sir Roger!
@@fredrik3614 who's here after I wrote this comment?
Yea, I might be a little guilty about that..
I have cut myself from news so much that I came to know Sir Roger won Nobel Prize 2020 here.
When someone says "I attended a lecture by Paul Dirac", you know he is a living legend. Paul Dirac was one of the founders of Quantum Mechanics. #mindblown
I was just listening to that bit and I had to go back and play the part again just to make sure I heard it correctly. I knew a little bit about Sir Roger Penrose, but I had no idea that he was associated with the giants of quantum physics.
No, he wasn't. Einstein and Bohr were. Dirac was 3 years old when Einstein published his special relativity theory -his photon theory is regarded as being the birth of QM. But Einstein refused to believe in QM, and Bohr went with it.
@@Nautilus1972 shut up nerd
@@Nautilus1972 he is still one of them lol. Ever heard of Quantum field theory?
Well, at least I would be very comfortable to call Dirac one of the founders of QM. The formalism he created is the one still used today, and it showed that Heisenberg's and Schrödinger's theories were different representations of a more fundamental theory. Furthermore, he was the first to formulate the relativistic quantum theory of the electron and in the process predicted the existence of antimatter.
" I Shouldn't make a statement when I don't really know." Thank goodness for clever people who are also sensible and reasonable enough to understand they are not always right
Admitting a lack of proper knowledge is not the same as admitting one is wrong.
at their level they were probably wrong so many times, or weren't in a position to see the full picture, that they learned to never deal in absolutes
this is how you know when your talking to someone with decent intellect.
@@zeezbruhumyron1908 decent? This guy is one of the smartest human alive.
@Human Resources as could Lawence Krauss, a man who disparages philosophy whilst being a bad philosopher.
Let’s put this absolute gem of a podcast in your recommendation 1 year later
I know thought that myself. Great podcast, really interesting and I appreciate Joe listening intently to the lengthy answers without interrupting like some would. Plus its actually refreshing to listen to a podcast with no mention of C19 💯👌🏾
yes wtf youtube algo ?!??
RUclips is a wormhole for real it leads you to places you never thought 💭 but always wanted to go ...
RUclips decided today was the day for me.
1:05:53 when you're such an important figure that Joe doesn't tell you to move the mic, young Jamie gets up to do it!
The respect.
I'm not crying!
Right lol
Hahaha well observed
you've got to respect Rogan's genuine interest in such diverse themes, sure he makes good money with his podcast ( and well deserved) but mainstream media just can't compete with his product. I hope he keeps going for years
Couldn't agree more Leo Madsen.
More mainstream media needs to be like that
Intensity is better than extensity
Nothing but love for big Joe. Kudos Mr Rogan
Joe got his payday alright
There are 3 men in this room. The greatest physicist on earth, Joe, and Roger Penrose. Respect.
Leathaface! I didn't know u were into physics lmao
lmfao
Best comment ever
Golden!
that's really funny
He just won the Nobel Prize for Physics this year. Incredible.
Wonderful and well deserved!
Joe's silence is under-appreciated, it was good in this one. He has respect for elders and is good at provoking more conversation despite not being on the same intellectual level.
Sir Roger Penrose is an absolute gift to the world
Which is funny considering less than 1% can follow his ideas
We should ALL look that good and be that sharp at 87!
Dressed to impress
I was thinkin god damn ! old man looks good and still real sharp in mind
@@seamus2625 Ha! Good one.
@@marcocano8399 I don't mean the way he dresses. Notice his hands. The hands of most elderly folk look really old. His hands look 20 years younger or more than his actual age. Same with his face, but to a lesser degree. He has aged well, was my point.
But you're not wrong. He's a dapper ol' chap.
@@Quazi-moto this old timer kind of registers on my old-timer-adorability scale to a rating of 6 (Sophia from golden girls being a 7)
Roger seems so nervous to talk in front of the great Jamie with his A in physics.
List names, dates, papers, years, nationalities of so many people.
Also apologizes: "sorry, I cant remember if he was 19 or 20."
I've never watched a JRE where Joe Rogan remained so quiet for so long.
@BLT I don't want to watch it again, but if memory serves me correctly, then he let Sir Penrose speak for about 15 minutes. 15 minutes of no interruptions was quite alarming to my senses. Lol
same time as a DMT trip- coincidence? He didn't let Hameroff speak at all despite him being present apparently! instagram.com/p/Brjcm2AH-Ee/
@@justifiedreasoning
Thats cause he had no idea what the fuck si other dude talking about XD
He is talking to an 86-year old man who speaks slowly and works in a field that Joe Rogan knows little about.
All of these comments. Haha. Yes. And I’m going to sleep to this shit... but I’m wired from the dialogue.
Joe doesn't speak for the first 15 minutes: buckle up.
Was a hell of a journey
I always say you know it's a good episode when the guest does most of the talking.
Holy shit, you weren't kidding!
What this shows is that if Joes keeps quiet for the majority of the podcast it takes away 1hr 50 minutes🤷🏽♂️
#naptime
29:55 "That's heavy"
"Indeed"
I love the contrast in style.
This was one of the most captivating episodes, for me. I could listen to Penrose for hours. There's something beautiful and calming about his voice, tone and language...
This man is an absolute legend. Without taking anything away from him, this is probably the closest you can get to hear Einstein himself speak on a podcast. Thanks for this Joe, nevermind all the imbeciles saying this was boring. All of my respect to you for having guests like this. You have the most amazing platform.
Samadhi Einstein was a cosmetologist not a math metalition you idiot
chef b indahouse
You need to be a mathematician in cosmology. ... please, don't breed.
In appropriate amd rude language young men. Please let's stop insulting one another and discuss things peacefully. We're privilege to have our imbecile brains enlightened by this gentleman, lets enjoy
Jane Doe wow not even a black hole is as dense as you
@@notbrandonion it's called love you idiot
Is Sir Roger Penrose aware that he is just mere inches away from noted physicist, Young Jamie of Vernon?
Jamie of Vernon hahahah
to be fair they both got A's in Physics
Hahaha
Shut ur damn mouth
😂😂
Joe “I’ve only been paying attention to Octopi for a few years now” Rogan
It is always good to pay attention to everything which has more arms than you have. You can only control that many arms and we all know what they like doing with that tentacles.
Haha, is that the american plural for octopuses or was he just being Joe Rogan ?
from an englishman......
Even though octopi isn’t the correct plural form for octopus
Greek Millenial exactly
Nobel Prize winner in Physics 2020 what a treat to hear him.
Joe Rogan is so respectful during this interview which made me become even a bigger fan. Well done 👍
Ahh, Sir Rogerer penning Roses is respected a wee bit (q) 2 muc# for mine tastes. His die-gram unt rad-ideation is dimension-ally confused. Would you, Joe or most of the audience even know who was more correct in a debate, much less a hive-reading, of the story? Here is the better answer: the Penrose diagram is useful for some things, but flawed fundamental conception makes it not the thing it "says" it is, same with the Maldacena soupcan. Also, I've tugged out of reality a new, more fundamental mathematical object with current observational support: Unruh(ly)-Weiner Radiation (NOT Neal; he did not tell me if I am his cousin). I think Vunderful Person might talk t#@t s#!t. Und das Ho$$-en-FieldHer.
~_#, Dr. Yo-universe. You earned it, but EyE'm looking all up in on t#!s s#!t. Peace.
@@TheInfowarrior89 Thank you for using "Like" like the right way, the 4D humans are with you, bro.
@@TheInfowarrior89 Congratulations, you are another unwitting subject in a coding experiment. If you do not understand, you have two options: de-crypt, or swipe and move along. Sooo many more of the latter. You do not have to do the former, but the dismissal of the task defines you. You may choose to remain silent.
Joe Rogan is excellent in this interview, and quite the philosopher, he's right the Universe is Extremely Bizarre no need for wooo.
@@TheReferrer72 This is why I Rogered the Rogerer. What Joe, Sir P-Zombie and most people know or don't know is a matter of "belief." Science has denied the true nature of reality, and 20+ yers ago, I was Rogered. Now, I am the Rogerer. A Maldacena past firewall perturbation produced the true nature of Chaos Theory and the butterfly effect. The @$$#ole physics nerds that played their game with me have lost. Joe, nothing personal, but "woo" is Academic code for: we know, and do not want you to know, or we do not know, and we don't want you to know THAT we don't know. Physics has a Pan-Info or Pan-Psych basis, and now that is a settled matter, as well as a condensed one.
You should get Roger back for the next Fight Companion!
Lol
@chip chipperson Haha Eddie Bravo is a joke
Fuckin funny shit, man.
@@roguewookiee for real! When they watched the first GGG vs Canelo, Eddie thought that GGG might have been the Mexican.
@@trevbarlow9719 Youse guys are all wicked smart.
I love how he looks, sounds, and intelligently backs up every single thing a person would expect from a brilliant British scholar.
he looks like Alan Alda
@@zevlibin8892 he does lol
Except Joe's not a British scholar though.
he's a scientist
Sid Arthur actually i think hes like a UfC announcer or something. Guess again lil donger.
I really love how open minded Penrose is to complex ideas that may not be adopted by the many. He isn’t trying to hard to fit in. He is just a curious guy exploring all ideas and not making anyone else feel dumb for the ideas they have as well.
I know some of these words.
Joe was unprepared for this one. Shoulda brought in a translator to mediate as well
Welcome to GoodBurger home of the GoodBurger can I take your orrrrder?
@@snakesn40ozs92 finally someone gets it haha
@@bozobonsi1807 Brutal but funny as fuck.
lol
Joe's IQ varies depending on the guest.
Yeah he legitimately went several ten-minute stretches just trying to quietly decipher what Sir Roger was saying.
So true! Anywhere from 70 to 90, what a rollercoaster!
Facts
Half Code I’ve noticed that too 😂
That's crazy man. Have you ever done DMT?
Joe: So what is consciousness?
Sir Roger: Starts talking in beautiful academic British.
Me: Ok he knows
Lmao
His English really is beautiful. Extremely clear, no particular class mannerisms. Plus his tone of voice is so agreeable. He is the kind of person I would love to spend a long afternoon drinking tea on a porch with, and not just because of his intellect - he just seems genuinely nice.
@@meadish imagine how much one could learn from an evening with this brilliant man
I mean, essentially 2.4 Million people just spent an evening with him. This is why what Joe Rogan has created is so important. The minds he's opened by having some of the most respected intellectuals on to just talk to the masses is so valuable, and I don't think he gives himself enough credit.
@@John-X You're very much right. It's good that he doesn't take credit I think, he is more pleasant to listen to because of his curiosity and humble attitude.
8:08 “I like to think of myself as a scientist...”
damn this guy can talk coherently, succinctly, while keeping the audience interested, and also be really old at the same time
Yes. Well knighted he was.
Alex Light
He made it boring for me 💤
Can’t blame the old guy tho
Interesting stuff tho
🤣🤣🤣
Yes you are@@toodank1759
Joe didn't speak a word untill 15 minutes in...this tells you what a master teacher this gentleman is
I've never seen Joe listen so intently for so long on this podcast. In fact I have always been annoyed that he derails scientists by asking them to explain everything as they begin to explain the last thing he asked lol but yeah this was excellent
I think joe had a special recently. He spent so much time thinking and working out his special. It fused into his show........ No no no. Its a new thing people have not worked out yet etc etc. Now the special has ended and its not infecting his every thought. He has gone back to listening and not correcting people compare this or gad saad as opposed to i think his name was shooter jennings
he finally went to pee actually
"British scientist, Sir Roger Penrose, was awarded the Nobel Prize for the discovery that black hole formation is a robust prediction of the general theory of relativity." Wow, Joe had a chat with a Nobel Prize winner scientist... *hits blunt*
8 of those in paradise
Mr. Penrose has been awarded the 2020 Nobel prize for Physics !!
This man is 87 years old. Respect for coming on JRE
ChrisMisc1 badasses never fade
How grateful people will be in the future that this has been recorded.
Will it survive?
Just look what happend too Baghdad, Rome, Constantinople and Alexandria.
ZBOY X let’s hope it’s not all burned with the Bible and constitution
I'm already grateful. I rate him even more than Hawking (although all my respect is with him, too) because without Penrose, Hawking would have nor been able to succeed. This guy is a maths genius and an excellent teacher. Up there with Richard Feynman
After they get invaded by Octopie
Penrose is amazing, props to joe for giving him the respect he deserves on this one!
"...try to get a better picture of this insane reality that we're living in."
"It is pretty weird, you're right."
"It's so weird!"
That was a good moment of mutual understanding.
Have more mathematical physicists on - that silence is golden.
Hi Gavin! I agree - Séamus
@@martindisc Hey Seamus! Never thought next time we'd chat would be on a Rogan podcast. When I saw this come up today I thought "How is Joe Rogan going to talk with Roger Penrose??" Solution: don't talk :)
Hate R 😂😂😂
Yeah hahaha you can tell Joe was absolutely fucked when he’s explaining logic
😂😂😂😂
Man this guy is almost as smart as Eddie Bravo.
Yolo Swaggins Joe: please explain consciousness
Penrose: google it
Eddie is pretty smart.
I feel like Eddie gets a bad rep at times I don’t think he’s stupid but I think he sufferers from a small mental disorder, extremely paranoid and untrustworthy he might be autistic or have a tiny case of schizophrenia. Helps him think about grappling in a different way tho, and that’s cool as fuck. A lot of times people who are super smart at one thing are lacking in something else. He didn’t create his chain of jujitsu schools from being dumb or that competition or set of rules and having people implementing it all over the place by being dumb. Ya know what I mean dawg.
ALMOST
Hey that might be a true statement, “look into it”.
#Tower7
You could feel Joe was being gentle with this wise old genius of a man, which is very sweet of Joe.
Sir Penrose has just been awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics, congratulations and thank you for a great interview.
I really hope I‘ll be in similar shape when I‘m 87...amazing
@@martingoddard3994 ??
He's so incredibly sharp.
@Matt Zilla Gaming Na, he doesn't look 87. He doesn't act 87 either.
Joe needs to ask him about he's workout routine;)
statistically - you won't be even around, so...
"You've got to play with ideas which are on the... edge of what we know, otherwise you're stuck with what we know."
Beautiful quote.
goddamn right
A brilliant interview. So much better than anything you’ll ever see on television. In-depth. Fascinating.
This is one for the ages and pretty incredible. Roger Penrose is a living legend in physics.
Sir Roger is 87 years old! What an inspiration!
man hes doing well for 87
how humbling is listening to this man say ''I don't know''? Next time you think you know shit just remember Sir Roger Penrose.
que hacer who da fook is sir roger Penrose tho
@@artembless7914 You don't know shit. Apparently not even how to google lol
Numbzie your a casual
@@artembless7914 I am so sorry. You just blew my mind. Such profound words truly prove me wrong. I do apologize and hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me assuming you to be ignorant.
Numbzie Google " who Da fook is that guy" and come back to me will ya?
Love Joe’s face in the beginning, “who roped you into this”?
This is easily one of the best episodes of JRE. Sir Robert Penrose does an amazing job of communicating insights from his life work all the while remaining infused with humor; exploring far-out ideas while still strongly rooted in science. Joe is sporting the best of his conversational skills while keeping his hubris in check, bringing up interesting topics and asking relevant questions that listeners would probably be asking too. 10/10.
Joe: That's heavy...
Penrose: Indeed.
Ha 🤣
I'm 11 minutes in and I can already sense that this may be the greatest JRE of all time. Penrose is a giant. One of the greats.
This interview requires 2 thumbs up. One is not enough.
Roger Penrose is a rare example of the Dunning-Kruger effect at the other end of the scale.
Made me think.. it’s very humbling to study something to the n’th degree, kind of pummels the ego which just doesn’t suit all forms of humans.
There’s a correlation with a discovery and questions formed from said discovery which seems almost exponential and must feel somewhat non-finite which we are just not all built to take.
Roger comes across as someone who realizes he doesn’t know anything even know from my own perspective he is vastly superior, I couldn’t hope to grasp the concepts on a mathematical level he and others of his ilk do. I really look up to and admire these people but I’m also furiously jealous as I’ve got a very enquiring mind, just not the motor required to make a difference in fields such as this.
We live in an amazing age where we can watch videos of such quality.
99,999999% of videos are crap, but the good ones are really, REALLY good.
Most def
Indeed my friend!
You must be a 90s or 00s creation. Quality educational/intellectual discussions were much more prevalent in years past. In today's age, one must sift through a landfill of waste in order to find healthy nourishment for mind and soul
Yes, I was thinking the exact same recently, where we can watch true polymaths jump from topic to topic, and yet they seem to be expert in them all. I like Eric Weinstein in particualr.
How you know you’re old: “Earlier this century...don’t ask me dates again...” -Sir Roger Penrose
Me
Who is here because Penrose has just won the Nobel Prize?
A big reason why I Love this podcast: "that's heavy".. "indeed"
I met Roger Penrose in person when he came to JHU to give a lecture. At the end of the lecture I went and talked to him and I had him sign his book for me. Never in my wildest dreams have I ever imagined Roger Penrose on Joe Rogan’s podcast! Love you even more, Joe!
I am going to be completely honest and admit I really have no idea what you two are talking about but this is hands down, one the most charming interviews you've done. I could have listened to Sir Roger for many hours...not having a bloody clue what you both are talking about. The grace and elegance in this scientific conversation is beautiful. Thank for introducing me to this brilliant man :)
Joe “I know when to shut the hell up” Rogan
What I like the most is such a mind sayin “I don’t know” so many times. It’s a great difference from all those confident gurus in all aspects of knowledge. And Penrose is, well, Penrose. He helps a lot.
Joe 'uncharacteristic silence' Rogan
he usually gets silent when he is really interested and doesn't want to interrupt the guest
Sanskrit and when he is extremely out of his intellectual depth.
Liam Winter - you are completely right, intellectually intimidated.
@@Conda17 he is not intimidated, he often has guests way smarter than him.
He knows he's not that smart, he says it all the time.
it's out of respect. When you have a legend in front of you, let the man speak.
Gödel's incompleteness theorem explained on JRE. That I witness this day...
hahahaha maths nerd.
Explained rather badly. And I don't see how he gets from incompleteness to consciousness. Conscious beings are no more able to proof all true statements or to perceive statements as true than unconscious ones.
Taxtro that’s only true if philosophical zombies exist. Nobody knows if they do or not. But either way, there are plenty of other reasons to believe that the computational theory of mind is wrong.
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I don't see a reason for anything requiring consciousness to work. Apart from maybe thoughts about consciousness itself.
I'm not sure what "the" computational theory of mind is, but I find it hard to deny that consciousness has something to do with information processing. I, for one, experience different things based upon the inputs to my senses and various things affecting my brain, like alcohol or other drugs. Of course I could be a Boltzmann brain that hallucinates the entire world, but apart from such speculations, if the world is anything like it seems to be, then consciousness is closely linked to computations.
@@MrCmon113
Information processing isn't the same as computation -- computation is just one kind of information processing. Mathematicians can prove theorems that can't be proven by a well-defined model, so they are doing "information processing" that isn't computation.
The computational theory of mind is just the theory that the mind can be entirely explained by computations, which is what Penrose was arguing against. Just because you experience the world differently when you take drugs doesn't mean that consciousness is just a computation. All it means is that consciousness has something to do with your brain, since the drugs affect your brain. But that's obvious and doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know.
Consciousness very well could be closely linked to computations (Penrose might even agree with that), but that's not the same thing as saying that consciousness is just a computation and that there is nothing else involved.
Our world needs more young men like this.
True but wisdom and experience is a big factor too
You didn’t say that to Harvey Weinstein who is way younger than this dude
It's mindblowing that Joe has had from Nobel prize winners to billionaire tech CEOs on his podcast sitting on that chair. Joe should be really proud of this.
Redban was also in that chair.
Dont forget Alex Jones.
@@ayusharyal5877 the most impressive of all
Everyone actin like they know what he’s saying
justin hammond you don't speak English?
justin hammond he lost me a lot too bro. Don’t feel bad
gabriel3gbass a lot of it was interesting but I spaced out on a lot. I probably need to listen again
Lmao
Jamie fact checked it so i trust him
Joe: ''That's heavy!'' Roger: ''Indeed''.
This is why I love Joe Rogan. He drives the vehicle and picks up the best hitchhikers.
I do research in optics and photonics for applied application, point is I have a really strong background in stem and still most of things he said bounced straight over my head. Penrose is on another level.
There was an AMA some years back where someone asked Joe about guests he would love to have, he said Roger Penrose and Harmut Neven... well done Joe, you're halfway there. Sir Roger Penrose did a pretty good job of simplifying topics without oversimplifying. It would be great to get that man some tea and let him talk for another hour.
Joe Rogan is Making Intellectualism Great Again!
frontier metals ~ MIGA
I know! We’ll sell hats with that logo and make a million
No wait, that’s been done
🤔 after consideration, I agree.
Edgardo G the fact that you can click on this podcast out of any video on RUclips and still have such a close minded thought is insane. I’m not for trump in any way but that’s just stupid man
@Apollo For such people, nuance is heresy or extremism and which depends on tactical application of politics. The irony is completely lost on them I'm afraid.
I honestly believe Rogers ideas are most likely much closer to an accurate view of reality than any other hypothesis i've heard.
Intellectual... Brilliant thinker ...Nobel prize winner.. so down to earth!
“I’m an old guy...” Thank you for having him and allowing us to hear this wonderful conversation.
Holy shit this is an amazing podcast. Scientists make the absolute best guests.
It's honestly amazing how much better scientists come across on this platform. Gotta give Joe credit for asking the right questions and then getting out of the way and letting guys just go off about their subjects of interest.
wow RUclips has really become the perfect procrastination tool of the 21st century
James Crisp I have been on a joe Rogan podcast run for about 50 hrs now. You should see my recommendations now ! I can’t stop!!
Dlavelle100 help !
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Procrastination? From what mindless jobs created to distract us from knowing things like this.
14 billion years of seemingly random interactions between matter and energy came together to this level of investigation and understanding of it's own existence. Nature absolutely blows my mind!
I love the world nowadays an ex fighter is discussing neurochemistry with one of the smartest men alive ... crazy how much people can accomplish
Whaaaaat ??? Congratulations for having Roger Penrose in your show ... That's big very big
Yeah I don't know why these guests are going on Joe's show. 30 minutes prior he is talking about nutsack sweat.
@@i.c.stupidpeople4590 : word is spreading that Rogan is one of the best interviewers in the world especially in subjects he is interested in
Holy fuck Joe, Sir Roger Penrose is the smartest guy in the room. It doesn't matter which room or who is in it. Greatest guest ever.
Joe Rogan had quiet a lot of amazing guests in the last few years, probably because it has become widely known that he is one of the best interviewers in the world. Agree with you about Roger Penrose. He is a living legend, one the smartest scientists of the second part of the 20th century. He wrote two of the best books ever explaining high-level mathematics and physics to lay people.
@@roodborstkalf9664 Penrose is one of the greatest thinkers of all time.
It's been a very long time, watching guest after guest sit and bare their soul, since I've seen, or should i say, heard, Joe be so quiet, almost enthralled by his guest... the normal to-and-fro is noticeably missing..... Just shows the calibre of Sir Roger Penrose's gargantuan intellect ..... absolute pleasure and an education to watch......
Society needs to propagate this kind of media on “social media”. People are interested in the wrong thing due to $ and inequality imo. Fundamental shift needs to happen societally. Real academics do not get the “popular vote” they deserve for all their groundbreaking work that have and will advance the human race.