We always say how Jokic makes everyone better around him. So, in this case, it doesn't have to be specifically Jamal, MPJ, etc. Denver doesn't have to pay max contracts to players who aren't deserving just for that reason. Other players will be good with Jok, too. In fact, these guys should volunteer to get a pay cut just for the privilege of playing with Jokic
All of you who write think that you are Jokic and MVP and All Star and that Murray has 52,250,000 per season and you $51,415,938. Who is Murray without Jokic - you saw when Jokic was not playing, you saw him in the Canadian national team. What is MPJ's double goal without Jokic - who would tolerate 8-0 triples, if it wasn't possible with Lebron - with some Doncic, or any all star. Soon Jokic will ask for a trade - the Denver team spent 90 million dollars for worthless players Murray and MPJ - look at them numbers this season
Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
Basketball is a team sport. No matter how talented one player is, building a championship team requires the entire team to work together-especially the highest-paid players. The real question is why the Denver front office chose to give max extension contracts to Jamal and MPJ if they’re expected to lead the team in the absence of the best player. When Michael Jordan retired for the first time to pursue a baseball career, Pippen took on the leadership role for the Chicago Bulls and had one of the best seasons of his career.
history shows that Pippen was able to get the Bulls to the 2nd round of the playoffs without MJ. Stats show that Murray is not even projected to get a 2nd win in the regular season without Jokic
@@-ac-8296 All of you who write think that you are Jokic and MVP and All Star and that Murray has 52,250,000 per season and you $51,415,938. Who is Murray without Jokic - you saw when Jokic was not playing, you saw him in the Canadian national team. What is MPJ's double goal without Jokic - who would tolerate 8-0 triples, if it wasn't possible with Lebron - with some Doncic, or any all star. Soon Jokic will ask for a trade - the Denver team spent 90 million dollars for worthless players Murray and MPJ - look at them numbers this season
@@-ac-8296 Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
Ryan, aren't you tired of giving MPJ and Jamal passes and the benefits of doubt? MPJ doesn't get a pass just because he had an average of 16 points. It's performing when you are needed that counts. Yes, Jamal is more responsible, but that doesn't mean that MPJ isn't. But they are both max players that don't play like one.
All of you who write think that you are Jokic and MVP and All Star and that Murray has 52,250,000 per season and you $51,415,938. Who is Murray without Jokic - you saw when Jokic was not playing, you saw him in the Canadian national team. What is MPJ's double goal without Jokic - who would tolerate 8-0 triples, if it wasn't possible with Lebron - with some Doncic, or any all star. Soon Jokic will ask for a trade - the Denver team spent 90 million dollars for worthless players Murray and MPJ - look at them numbers this season
Ryan, this is not a criticism but an honest question. Do you think that doing 2 pods makes you lose tolerance for people's comments and criticism of the team in general and Jamal specifically? I know a lot of people listen to both pods. But if not, you owe listeners of this pod to cover these topics and be patient with people's comments about Jamal because they are valid. Being tired of a topic because you covered it on a different platform isn't a valid reason . I guess there is criticism in my comment after all, lol. Nothing personal, I love your intake (most of the time😂)
that.'s a lie, this yr murray's number with jokic sucks..take murray's numbers with jokic and compare them to russelll's numbers as a starter with jokic..it aint even close
Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
The Denver Nuggets have built their identity around Nikola Jokić, the reigning MVP, and his absence can showcase how pivotal he is to their offensive scheme. Without Jokić on the court, the team often struggles to find effective offensive flow and cohesion.
Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
Lets remember all those players that left Denver ,and how do they perform in their new teams without Joker?Are they perform better or they suddenly forget to play basketball? I just feel sorry for Joker.
Jokic has carried two GMs, one head coach, and several teammates to huge unwarranted contracts. They all owe him money. Too bad a joke franchise is holding the Joker back.
All of you who write think that you are Jokic and MVP and All Star and that Murray has 52,250,000 per season and you $51,415,938. Who is Murray without Jokic - you saw when Jokic was not playing, you saw him in the Canadian national team. What is MPJ's double goal without Jokic - who would tolerate 8-0 triples, if it wasn't possible with Lebron - with some Doncic, or any all star. Soon Jokic will ask for a trade - the Denver team spent 90 million dollars for worthless players Murray and MPJ - look at them numbers this season
@@dragicaandrejevic2060 Jokic almost beat USA in Olympics. He could take literally any roster in the NBA to the playoffs. Nuggets without Jokic are one of two or three worst teams in the league. Malone hasn't shown that he adds any value as a coach and the GMs haven't been able to maximize the team around Jokic.
Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
It is not 12 games, it is 10 years of one and the same. In 10 years the guy has had 1 great playoff run and 1 awesome playoff run. Rest was full of mediocre and poor performances with a few good ones sprinkled around. I wont mention injuries, ok that is something else.. but dont forget, injuries tend to happen to players that are not well prepared or are not well conditioned. Sure, some players are injury prone, but when you draw the line people have had enough. All of this is just not acceptable for a max player. If Denver was a tanking team so hell we dont have any good players and lets just give this guy the max..perhaps.. but as a contender that is just not smart. Denver needs consistent performers, good shooters, good defenders. Nothing spectacular is needed, just guys like Gordon. Players that will be there every night and give their best for a reasonable price. Playmaking is covered by Joker, defence will collapse on him, he will get doubled and all that others need to do is catch and shoot open shots, move well, be ready to box out, cut, attack the rim. You move well, you get open he will find you. So just good role players, good rotation guys and good shooters. Well rounded players. Joker will play every single game in the playoffs and he will play almost every regular season game.. Simple stuff.. no need for huge risks like before, like with MPJ pick.. Nuggets should have cashed in on Jamal and MPJ, kept KCP and Brucie and added a few good 3nD guys.. And I have been saying it since a few years ago when Joker lost 2 years due to their injuries. And yes, Denver would have won it all without them, perhaps multiple times.
All of you who write think that you are Jokic and MVP and All Star and that Murray has 52,250,000 per season and you $51,415,938. Who is Murray without Jokic - you saw when Jokic was not playing, you saw him in the Canadian national team. What is MPJ's double goal without Jokic - who would tolerate 8-0 triples, if it wasn't possible with Lebron - with some Doncic, or any all star. Soon Jokic will ask for a trade - the Denver team spent 90 million dollars for worthless players Murray and MPJ - look at them numbers this season
Man you defending Jamal like he is your own son WTF do you hear yourself:)He is trash 2 years and he is not looking he will be better any soon why to relax he got 209 mil to avr 15pts there is like 150 players avg 15 a game with 20 times less contract this is main problem of whole Franchise and need to be addressed soon if they want to win 1 more chip ever coz after Jokic good luck in Tanking forever
Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
All of you who write think that you are Jokic and MVP and All Star and that Murray has 52,250,000 per season and you $51,415,938. Who is Murray without Jokic - you saw when Jokic was not playing, you saw him in the Canadian national team. What is MPJ's double goal without Jokic - who would tolerate 8-0 triples, if it wasn't possible with Lebron - with some Doncic, or any all star. Soon Jokic will ask for a trade - the Denver team spent 90 million dollars for worthless players Murray and MPJ - look at them numbers this season
Day after day, instead of harsh criticism, one hears the same thing over and over again. You defend Jamal as if he won't come to your wedding if you persistently say the opposite. If all podcasts and media related to Denver asked for the reaction of team management regarding Jamal, regarding Julian (they won't buy anyone with two average games of 12) they probably would gave results. This is how everyone work, first tell how bad Jamal is, and then after 15 minutes of talking about other players, Jamal's defense starts, saying that maybe this or maybe that is the issue, how we can't draw conclusions based on 12 games, dude, please stop with that nonsense. Guy receives such a salary that he should have while Jokic is not there to fill the Pelicans with 40 points and Memphis with 30, how we will be torn apart by teams like Kings, Houston, Suns, Portland, Clippers, Minnesota, Cleveland, Boston...even the Hornets and Detroit we have to win with no more than 5 points. Portland stomped Minnesota in two games in three days, so Denver will go through with Memphis. I can't believe they lost to the Pelicans who are missing their top 5 players while the media in Denver is saying they were only missing Zion. Remember I'm saying this the second time Denver will be in a play in situation for play off spot, from where, with this roster 7-10 place. I don't know what obligations Jokic has, but he also behaves irresponsibly, which is justified by the type of teammates he plays with.
Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
How is his passing good with 6 turnovers.. he either cant see when he needs to make the pass or he doesn’t have the skill to get it where it needs to be
Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
We always say how Jokic makes everyone better around him. So, in this case, it doesn't have to be specifically Jamal, MPJ, etc. Denver doesn't have to pay max contracts to players who aren't deserving just for that reason. Other players will be good with Jok, too.
In fact, these guys should volunteer to get a pay cut just for the privilege of playing with Jokic
All of you who write think that you are Jokic and MVP and All Star and that Murray has 52,250,000 per season and you $51,415,938. Who is Murray without Jokic - you saw when Jokic was not playing, you saw him in the Canadian national team. What is MPJ's double goal without Jokic - who would tolerate 8-0 triples, if it wasn't possible with Lebron - with some Doncic, or any all star. Soon Jokic will ask for a trade - the Denver team spent 90 million dollars for worthless players Murray and MPJ - look at them numbers this season
Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
Basketball is a team sport. No matter how talented one player is, building a championship team requires the entire team to work together-especially the highest-paid players. The real question is why the Denver front office chose to give max extension contracts to Jamal and MPJ if they’re expected to lead the team in the absence of the best player. When Michael Jordan retired for the first time to pursue a baseball career, Pippen took on the leadership role for the Chicago Bulls and had one of the best seasons of his career.
history shows that Pippen was able to get the Bulls to the 2nd round of the playoffs without MJ. Stats show that Murray is not even projected to get a 2nd win in the regular season without Jokic
@@-ac-8296 All of you who write think that you are Jokic and MVP and All Star and that Murray has 52,250,000 per season and you $51,415,938. Who is Murray without Jokic - you saw when Jokic was not playing, you saw him in the Canadian national team. What is MPJ's double goal without Jokic - who would tolerate 8-0 triples, if it wasn't possible with Lebron - with some Doncic, or any all star. Soon Jokic will ask for a trade - the Denver team spent 90 million dollars for worthless players Murray and MPJ - look at them numbers this season
@@-ac-8296 Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
This says everything about the team Denver has put around Jokic. Without Jokic on the court, they are a top pick in the lottery, no cap.
Ryan, aren't you tired of giving MPJ and Jamal passes and the benefits of doubt?
MPJ doesn't get a pass just because he had an average of 16 points. It's performing when you are needed that counts.
Yes, Jamal is more responsible, but that doesn't mean that MPJ isn't. But they are both max players that don't play like one.
All of you who write think that you are Jokic and MVP and All Star and that Murray has 52,250,000 per season and you $51,415,938. Who is Murray without Jokic - you saw when Jokic was not playing, you saw him in the Canadian national team. What is MPJ's double goal without Jokic - who would tolerate 8-0 triples, if it wasn't possible with Lebron - with some Doncic, or any all star. Soon Jokic will ask for a trade - the Denver team spent 90 million dollars for worthless players Murray and MPJ - look at them numbers this season
Ryan, this is not a criticism but an honest question. Do you think that doing 2 pods makes you lose tolerance for people's comments and criticism of the team in general and Jamal specifically?
I know a lot of people listen to both pods. But if not, you owe listeners of this pod to cover these topics and be patient with people's comments about Jamal because they are valid. Being tired of a topic because you covered it on a different platform isn't a valid reason . I guess there is criticism in my comment after all, lol. Nothing personal, I love your intake (most of the time😂)
It's not only 12 games......he was bad last season to. They should not give him max contract and he is not second best player in the team.
that.'s a lie, this yr murray's number with jokic sucks..take murray's numbers with jokic and compare them to russelll's numbers as a starter with jokic..it aint even close
If Jamal could get 24/8 in a game Jokic is out, I wouldn't even complain. He looks like 15% better Terry Rozier out there
Just think everyone on Bluesky left Twitter not because their voices were censored but because others voices are allowed to be heard.
Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
The Denver Nuggets have built their identity around Nikola Jokić, the reigning MVP, and his absence can showcase how pivotal he is to their offensive scheme. Without Jokić on the court, the team often struggles to find effective offensive flow and cohesion.
Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
Lets remember all those players that left Denver ,and how do they perform in their new teams without Joker?Are they perform better or they suddenly forget to play basketball? I just feel sorry for Joker.
Jokic has carried two GMs, one head coach, and several teammates to huge unwarranted contracts. They all owe him money. Too bad a joke franchise is holding the Joker back.
All of you who write think that you are Jokic and MVP and All Star and that Murray has 52,250,000 per season and you $51,415,938. Who is Murray without Jokic - you saw when Jokic was not playing, you saw him in the Canadian national team. What is MPJ's double goal without Jokic - who would tolerate 8-0 triples, if it wasn't possible with Lebron - with some Doncic, or any all star. Soon Jokic will ask for a trade - the Denver team spent 90 million dollars for worthless players Murray and MPJ - look at them numbers this season
@@dragicaandrejevic2060 Jokic almost beat USA in Olympics. He could take literally any roster in the NBA to the playoffs. Nuggets without Jokic are one of two or three worst teams in the league. Malone hasn't shown that he adds any value as a coach and the GMs haven't been able to maximize the team around Jokic.
Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
It is not 12 games, it is 10 years of one and the same. In 10 years the guy has had 1 great playoff run and 1 awesome playoff run. Rest was full of mediocre and poor performances with a few good ones sprinkled around. I wont mention injuries, ok that is something else.. but dont forget, injuries tend to happen to players that are not well prepared or are not well conditioned. Sure, some players are injury prone, but when you draw the line people have had enough. All of this is just not acceptable for a max player.
If Denver was a tanking team so hell we dont have any good players and lets just give this guy the max..perhaps.. but as a contender that is just not smart. Denver needs consistent performers, good shooters, good defenders. Nothing spectacular is needed, just guys like Gordon. Players that will be there every night and give their best for a reasonable price.
Playmaking is covered by Joker, defence will collapse on him, he will get doubled and all that others need to do is catch and shoot open shots, move well, be ready to box out, cut, attack the rim. You move well, you get open he will find you. So just good role players, good rotation guys and good shooters. Well rounded players.
Joker will play every single game in the playoffs and he will play almost every regular season game.. Simple stuff.. no need for huge risks like before, like with MPJ pick.. Nuggets should have cashed in on Jamal and MPJ, kept KCP and Brucie and added a few good 3nD guys.. And I have been saying it since a few years ago when Joker lost 2 years due to their injuries.
And yes, Denver would have won it all without them, perhaps multiple times.
All of you who write think that you are Jokic and MVP and All Star and that Murray has 52,250,000 per season and you $51,415,938. Who is Murray without Jokic - you saw when Jokic was not playing, you saw him in the Canadian national team. What is MPJ's double goal without Jokic - who would tolerate 8-0 triples, if it wasn't possible with Lebron - with some Doncic, or any all star. Soon Jokic will ask for a trade - the Denver team spent 90 million dollars for worthless players Murray and MPJ - look at them numbers this season
Man you defending Jamal like he is your own son WTF do you hear yourself:)He is trash 2 years and he is not looking he will be better any soon why to relax he got 209 mil to avr 15pts there is like 150 players avg 15 a game with 20 times less contract this is main problem of whole Franchise and need to be addressed soon if they want to win 1 more chip ever coz after Jokic good luck in Tanking forever
Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
the sign while the logo screen was up before coming back was funny. talk about doing something you dont love.
JAMAL IS NOTHING WITJOUT NIKOLA😡😩😩😩
All of you who write think that you are Jokic and MVP and All Star and that Murray has 52,250,000 per season and you $51,415,938. Who is Murray without Jokic - you saw when Jokic was not playing, you saw him in the Canadian national team. What is MPJ's double goal without Jokic - who would tolerate 8-0 triples, if it wasn't possible with Lebron - with some Doncic, or any all star. Soon Jokic will ask for a trade - the Denver team spent 90 million dollars for worthless players Murray and MPJ - look at them numbers this season
Day after day, instead of harsh criticism, one hears the same thing over and over again. You defend Jamal as if he won't come to your wedding if you persistently say the opposite. If all podcasts and media related to Denver asked for the reaction of team management regarding Jamal, regarding Julian (they won't buy anyone with two average games of 12) they probably would gave results. This is how everyone work, first tell how bad Jamal is, and then after 15 minutes of talking about other players, Jamal's defense starts, saying that maybe this or maybe that is the issue, how we can't draw conclusions based on 12 games, dude, please stop with that nonsense. Guy receives such a salary that he should have while Jokic is not there to fill the Pelicans with 40 points and Memphis with 30, how we will be torn apart by teams like Kings, Houston, Suns, Portland, Clippers, Minnesota, Cleveland, Boston...even the Hornets and Detroit we have to win with no more than 5 points. Portland stomped Minnesota in two games in three days, so Denver will go through with Memphis. I can't believe they lost to the Pelicans who are missing their top 5 players while the media in Denver is saying they were only missing Zion. Remember I'm saying this the second time Denver will be in a play in situation for play off spot, from where, with this roster 7-10 place. I don't know what obligations Jokic has, but he also behaves irresponsibly, which is justified by the type of teammates he plays with.
Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined
just perma bench him he is as unplayable as pickett is
How is his passing good with 6 turnovers.. he either cant see when he needs to make the pass or he doesn’t have the skill to get it where it needs to be
bluesky lol
Murray has Torrey Craig energy with every shot
I heard @lukadoncic should be pick I 2018 , would imagine how many championships @denvernuggets shoul have by now????🙏
NOT EVEN 4th JAMAL is worse than @russellwestbrook😡😡
Calvin Booth, Michael Malone underestimated Jokic Jamal Murrey 209 million for 4 years per season 52,250,000 Murrey is not a starter even in the Canadian national team - Jokic $51,410,337.75. he was eliminated with Monte in the final, and with Murray in the 2nd round. Look at the stats this season as well as Murray's stats at the OI-disaster. MPJ has too much to say about him - in reality the Chinese league. MPJ has as much money as the entire bench of the Denver Nuggets and CB combined