Hey Guys, I forgot to mention that I recorded using a slightly lower tuning than 440. This is because it was stated that the producer/engineer recorded the track at a slower speed and then he sped it up. I recorded it at regular speed. Just forgot to mention this.
The original IIC+ is a classic amp and I understand that I am blessed to have it. If you want one I certainly hope you'll have one someday, although what matters more is talent. 👍
A “nail that tone” and justice for all would be awesome👀 James used the same 2c++ for that album as well, you should be able to replicate it fairly easy
I will make that video at some point. The And justice tone is a bit easier to replicate than some of the other Metallica tones. It’s an extremely scooped sound but it’s a unique sound for sure.
Brother!!! WOW! What an amazing video!! Super excited to have just found your channel!! Just subbed. Great video. I am really exploring this albums tones right now to work on my own songs. I am really paying attention to bass, mids and treble, types of distortion and reverb, as well as which pick up (Bridge, Middle, Neck) they used so that I can attempt recreating the sound with my current gear (3-4 guitars , 20 or so Pedals) plus GarageBand. Just just capturing the base of what the characteristics are for each instrument and how it's mixed. Hey....that could be a video ;) LOL Anyways....Thank you so much!! YOU ROCK!! Keep up the great work!!!
I heard they recorded tuned down to E flat then sped the tape up to bring it back to E. imposible to do live but for recording i would try that if i was chasing that tone.
Crunchberries wasn't a modded amp. It also WASN'T slaved to a Marshall power amp. Those are both false rumors that have been circulating for years. He also used a Gibson 84 Explorer with either stock pickups or invaders. Cab was a Marshall with T75's.
By looking at old photos of Metallica’s gear. It’s clear that Metallica had many iic+ amps. Was that specific amp modded during during the recording of this record? My guess would be no. However for future records it has been stated in many articles dating back to the 80’s and 90’s that Jame’s main amp was a mark iic++. The extra + indicates a modded iic+. Also they actually did slave the iic+ on a few solos on the record. This was confirmed by Fleming. So it’s not just a rumor. In my videos I’m always very deliberate in how I says things. This video is no exception. I don’t claim to be right about everything and will clearly says things like “they may have used this” because at the end of the day the only people that would know for sure would be the people who actually made the record. Us fans can really only speculate.
@@RUclipsisaids69 Well its true, BC Rich guitars due have a very specific sound to them that is very no pun intended “Metallic”. They often have the sound of like a piano that is just distorted. With a very heavy thump of steelish sound. It sounds odd unless you own one for a long time and i have for a bunch of years now. They have a very specific tone that is unique to them only.
the most important thing to your tone is going to be your amp. You can use a pedal but I would recommend getting a quality amp or plugin if you are on a budget. Neural DSP make some good plug ins if you want to go that route. The guitar can make a difference but it's mostly going to be coming from your pick-ups.
I use a Strat into a Metal Zone, into a Vox AC30. It's pretty thin through the Strat but the Strat is my main player guitar. Whenever I really get serious about playing some old Metallica i use my S.G. into the same setup. Sounds close enough for me. I do not own Mesa Boogies or JCMs. I'm just not overly wealthy haha.
It's just me, I like your videos man but I just wish you shown more of you playing with the artists tone during the videos instead of just for 15 seconds in the intro and talking for 20 minutes, I just wanted to hear more especially since I know that you know what you're doing and legitimately found the sound in those old Boogie amps.
I get what you are saying and I appreciate the constructive feedback. Just hear me out on this. The nail that tone series was always meant to be an educational series. Its really more about helping people achieve iconic classic tones. I always mention the importance of finger tone as well as researching what was used on the records in order for anybody to have a better idea on what gear to use or buy. I even offer suggestions for cheaper gear in case you don't have the cash for the high end stuff. Making a video where I just riff on my boogies would be more entertaining but would not offer much educational value. I will definitely make videos in the future that showcase more riffing and gear related stuff but that will likely be a different series. I make a living teaching music so I am passionate about teaching others.
@@ShredHeads I can't argue with the educational side, thanks for replying back man. It was just a personal thing on RUclips when people make a 20 minute video about something like a new guitar or amp or chasing an artists tone, then only play for about 20 seconds and verbally drag on for 20 minutes losing the plot as well as the audiences patience with wanting bit more feeling bit unsatisfied. Yours at least is professionally edited video, with near 100% accurate Metallica tone AND you're educating us with it's secrets from the studio and what is needed.
@@LewisCreamer I totally get what you mean. There are lots of channels with 20+ minute videos about a pedal, lol. There are tons of channels that have thousands of subs but make dumb irrelevant videos. It can frustrate me sometimes seeing how popular that type of dumb content is.
@@ShredHeads yeah; "Hey guys, its your boy and today I'm reviewing my new Les Paul Custom. Now you're probably asking yourself cos you know me so well, why this specific kind of guitar?,..." and I'm just thinking "Just fucking play it pal!".
I’m thinking about getting this for my jp2c and mark 4 do you put the pedal in the loop ? And is it like having a geq in the loop ? I have a ten band eq and I don’t want get get this if it’s just like having a eq in the loop
@@danielhenry4614 you can add an eq in the FX loop if you want. the benefit of doing this would be that it would give you more sound shaping. It would only help in a mark series amp if it was a ten or more band eq. If it's a five band eq, the mark amps already have this feature built in.
Isn’t the IIC++ the Colloseum heads they used live? The Mark series poweramps aren’t the greatest at high volume since the sound we love from those heads are mostly preamp gain and with the extreme eq curve from the graphic going into the power amp, it blows up, gets woofy or gets flubby, whatever you want to call it. It’s pretty much confirmed that they slaved into a jcm800 on mop. Cool video and great sounds dude 🤘🏻
@@Hoscitt Cool! Thanks for the insight :) I actually discovered that to be the case myself just recently. I pushed my Mesa 50/50 (with my mesa studio preamp) into a lot of distortion and found that to be the most aggressive and responsive sound yet. Before I would only except that type of power amp distortion to work, say with a plexi type design (thought the mesa's was too flubby) but after some tweaking I made it work beautifully and I think James did the same, coming from that Plexi/JMP/JCM style of amps.
I don’t remember. I’ll make some kind of video about it in the future. Settings help but you’ll need to shape it a bit in post usually for it to sound more like the record if you are looking to record your own take/version.
According to celestions own website. The vintage 30 was released in 1986. So yeah kill em all 1983 and ride the lightning 1984 we’re all recorded with vintage 30’s. Despite the actual engineers notes. You are definitely right.
Not sure. There is Fleming, the engineer saying they only slaved on some solos. It doesn’t matter much in my opinion, the power section doesn’t affect the tone much. I’m sure I could have gotten a great result with the mesa power section.
Hey Guys, I forgot to mention that I recorded using a slightly lower tuning than 440. This is because it was stated that the producer/engineer recorded the track at a slower speed and then he sped it up. I recorded it at regular speed. Just forgot to mention this.
talking about metallica wearing a megadeth t-shirt!!! WOW
How dare he
Diversity
Bro what’s wrong with liking both bands
Bold move indeed.
Matalica were a misfits shirt once
Dream gear: Mesa Boogie Mark IIc+ and Esp Explorer Mx-220/250.
The original IIC+ is a classic amp and I understand that I am blessed to have it. If you want one I certainly hope you'll have one someday, although what matters more is talent. 👍
Watch Lambchopper if you haven´t and you will realize you do not need to spend that much :)
I'd settle for some Heltfield pickups..
whoa, i wasnt actually expecting it to be that accurate, it actually sounds EXACTLY like the song. thats crazy.
Cool, appreciate the comment. 👍
A “nail that tone” and justice for all would be awesome👀 James used the same 2c++ for that album as well, you should be able to replicate it fairly easy
I will make that video at some point. The And justice tone is a bit easier to replicate than some of the other Metallica tones. It’s an extremely scooped sound but it’s a unique sound for sure.
@@ShredHeads it’s always fascinating to see people achieve the tone with real amps and what not so yeah I’ll be looking out for it man👍🏼
Mind blowing, fucking nailed it on that tone.
👍
Brother!!! WOW! What an amazing video!! Super excited to have just found your channel!! Just subbed. Great video. I am really exploring this albums tones right now to work on my own songs. I am really paying attention to bass, mids and treble, types of distortion and reverb, as well as which pick up (Bridge, Middle, Neck) they used so that I can attempt recreating the sound with my current gear (3-4 guitars , 20 or so Pedals) plus GarageBand. Just just capturing the base of what the characteristics are for each instrument and how it's mixed. Hey....that could be a video ;) LOL Anyways....Thank you so much!! YOU ROCK!! Keep up the great work!!!
Thanks for the support. Glad you enjoyed the video. 👍
Do your "Nail that Tone," but for a new spin do each tone on the Axe-FX III. That would truly rock!!
Megadeth shirt ❤️
Let’s goooo! Can’t wait! Haha 🤘🏼
👍
Great video. It sounds the same. Where did you buy this esp explorer replica?
*him casually wearing a Megadeth shirt while teaching Metallica*
Yes, Sir.
Wearing a Megadeth while making a Metallica video 😂🤘
Yep, 🤘
I heard they recorded tuned down to E flat then sped the tape up to bring it back to E. imposible to do live but for recording i would try that if i was chasing that tone.
I do think they did this. Probably made recording the album a little easier.
Wow. Mind blown. Thanks.
Cool, thanks 👍
@@ShredHeads When are you going to do " nail the tone" for MOP? Eagerly waiting.
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Crunchberries wasn't a modded amp. It also WASN'T slaved to a Marshall power amp. Those are both false rumors that have been circulating for years. He also used a Gibson 84 Explorer with either stock pickups or invaders. Cab was a Marshall with T75's.
By looking at old photos of Metallica’s gear. It’s clear that Metallica had many iic+ amps. Was that specific amp modded during during the recording of this record? My guess would be no. However for future records it has been stated in many articles dating back to the 80’s and 90’s that Jame’s main amp was a mark iic++. The extra + indicates a modded iic+. Also they actually did slave the iic+ on a few solos on the record. This was confirmed by Fleming. So it’s not just a rumor. In my videos I’m always very deliberate in how I says things. This video is no exception. I don’t claim to be right about everything and will clearly says things like “they may have used this” because at the end of the day the only people that would know for sure would be the people who actually made the record. Us fans can really only speculate.
Gibson 84 Explorer and his white Jackson with invaders. The speakers were G12-65's as we know or was it a false rumor too?
@@mister5e349 I think the speakers were G12-T75's.
Can you do a video of more riffs and the tone alone?
I am currently working on other videos however, if enough people request it, I’ll do a video of me riffing on some Metallica.
I was reading somewhere and i wish i remembered where that James used a BC Rich guitar to record some parts of Master Of Puppets.
Maybe, they probably had many guitars in the studio at their disposal.
That wouldn’t matter because guitars don’t affect tone.
@@RUclipsisaids69 Well its true, BC Rich guitars due have a very specific sound to them that is very no pun intended “Metallic”. They often have the sound of like a piano that is just distorted. With a very heavy thump of steelish sound. It sounds odd unless you own one for a long time and i have for a bunch of years now. They have a very specific tone that is unique to them only.
@@JoshAllen17Goated no it’s not that is purely placebo.. try doing an a b with no changes to the tone knobs.
do u have to have a special type of guitar to get this tune? i have a gio ibanez if i were to get a pedal like this can it work?
the most important thing to your tone is going to be your amp. You can use a pedal but I would recommend getting a quality amp or plugin if you are on a budget. Neural DSP make some good plug ins if you want to go that route. The guitar can make a difference but it's mostly going to be coming from your pick-ups.
Would love to hear how a single track sounds to properly replicate it
I use a Strat into a Metal Zone, into a Vox AC30. It's pretty thin through the Strat but the Strat is my main player guitar. Whenever I really get serious about playing some old Metallica i use my S.G. into the same setup. Sounds close enough for me. I do not own Mesa Boogies or JCMs. I'm just not overly wealthy haha.
The important thing is to play what you have.
It's just me, I like your videos man but I just wish you shown more of you playing with the artists tone during the videos instead of just for 15 seconds in the intro and talking for 20 minutes, I just wanted to hear more especially since I know that you know what you're doing and legitimately found the sound in those old Boogie amps.
I get what you are saying and I appreciate the constructive feedback. Just hear me out on this. The nail that tone series was always meant to be an educational series. Its really more about helping people achieve iconic classic tones. I always mention the importance of finger tone as well as researching what was used on the records in order for anybody to have a better idea on what gear to use or buy. I even offer suggestions for cheaper gear in case you don't have the cash for the high end stuff. Making a video where I just riff on my boogies would be more entertaining but would not offer much educational value. I will definitely make videos in the future that showcase more riffing and gear related stuff but that will likely be a different series. I make a living teaching music so I am passionate about teaching others.
@@ShredHeads I can't argue with the educational side, thanks for replying back man. It was just a personal thing on RUclips when people make a 20 minute video about something like a new guitar or amp or chasing an artists tone, then only play for about 20 seconds and verbally drag on for 20 minutes losing the plot as well as the audiences patience with wanting bit more feeling bit unsatisfied. Yours at least is professionally edited video, with near 100% accurate Metallica tone AND you're educating us with it's secrets from the studio and what is needed.
@@LewisCreamer I totally get what you mean. There are lots of channels with 20+ minute videos about a pedal, lol. There are tons of channels that have thousands of subs but make dumb irrelevant videos. It can frustrate me sometimes seeing how popular that type of dumb content is.
@@ShredHeads yeah; "Hey guys, its your boy and today I'm reviewing my new Les Paul Custom. Now you're probably asking yourself cos you know me so well, why this specific kind of guitar?,..." and I'm just thinking "Just fucking play it pal!".
65 Watt speakers gets you the Sound
The boogie amp is so expenisive
Yep
“Nice shirt”
👍
Can i use a line spider 6 mk 2 as amp ?
Yes, use what you have. Not the best amp out there but if that’s what you got, use it.
In the intro where u were playing the demo, were u playing over the original album guitar track? Or did u isolate it 😗
no, it's isolated with only the other instruments.
@@ShredHeads Dam! Ur tone was immaculate and spot on, very good props to you! Do u got a tutorial on mop tone or ajfa tone with am axe fx 3?
@@HambergurHelperEeter i have a few axe fx tutorials but don't have some on those tones you mentioned.
I’m thinking about getting this for my jp2c and mark 4 do you put the pedal in the loop ? And is it like having a geq in the loop ? I have a ten band eq and I don’t want get get this if it’s just like having a eq in the loop
No pedals were used to get the tone in this video. So I'm not sure what you are referring to.
@@ShredHeads I’m wondering if this is the same as using an 10 band eq in my fx loop witch I already have
@@danielhenry4614 you can add an eq in the FX loop if you want. the benefit of doing this would be that it would give you more sound shaping. It would only help in a mark series amp if it was a ten or more band eq. If it's a five band eq, the mark amps already have this feature built in.
I wish I watched this earlier instead of me trying to do it on my boss katana lmfao
Nothing wrong with a boss katana. Good practice amp, use what you got. That’s what is important.
You have my guitar on your wall
Isn’t the IIC++ the Colloseum heads they used live? The Mark series poweramps aren’t the greatest at high volume since the sound we love from those heads are mostly preamp gain and with the extreme eq curve from the graphic going into the power amp, it blows up, gets woofy or gets flubby, whatever you want to call it. It’s pretty much confirmed that they slaved into a jcm800 on mop. Cool video and great sounds dude 🤘🏻
Only way to tell would be to look at the back of the IIC+'s they were using at the time. I don't believe any pictures exist.
Fleming says in the Puppetz book that the Marshall slave thing isn't true and that it was only for a couple of solos 👍
@@Hoscitt Cool! Thanks for the insight :)
I actually discovered that to be the case myself just recently. I pushed my Mesa 50/50 (with my mesa studio preamp) into a lot of distortion and found that to be the most aggressive and responsive sound yet. Before I would only except that type of power amp distortion to work, say with a plexi type design (thought the mesa's was too flubby) but after some tweaking I made it work beautifully and I think James did the same, coming from that Plexi/JMP/JCM style of amps.
bro is wearing a megadeth shirt while trying to sound like metallica
what are the amp settings thanks
I don’t remember. I’ll make some kind of video about it in the future. Settings help but you’ll need to shape it a bit in post usually for it to sound more like the record if you are looking to record your own take/version.
He’s in a megadeth shirt 😨
How can this be serious with that Megadeth T shirt? Just kidding nice video!
Ha, glad you enjoyed it. 👍
Every metallica album( early ones) were recorded with vintage 30 speaker
According to celestions own website. The vintage 30 was released in 1986. So yeah kill em all 1983 and ride the lightning 1984 we’re all recorded with vintage 30’s. Despite the actual engineers notes. You are definitely right.
@@ShredHeads hah, didint know about that one. But im 100% sure justice and black album were recorded with vintage 30
What pedal
No pedals. Amp distortion only.
Yo megadeth is amazing too
yep
Falou, falou e não colou nada em prática
That’s definitely the tone. They slaved it for sure
Not sure. There is Fleming, the engineer saying they only slaved on some solos. It doesn’t matter much in my opinion, the power section doesn’t affect the tone much. I’m sure I could have gotten a great result with the mesa power section.
No money🥺
there are free plug ins. Do they sound incredible. probably not, but hey they are free.
This vid was 666 likes rn 😮😂
Better than any porn out there
Agreed
Megadeath.....ooohahahahaha
This was useless
Not more than this comment.
@@ShredHeads Lmao😂
have bad guitar tone... simple.