This Fighter Jet is Older Than You Think & Still Flown Today - The F-4 Phantom II
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- Опубликовано: 13 дек 2024
- Why We Still Love the F-4 Phantom After 60 Years - Hello and welcome to another episode of Military TV. Today we're going to discuss about one of the most versatile fighter jet ever built, this is “F-4 Phantom II”. The Phantom was prolific, with 5,195 copies serving in the air forces of twelve nations.
The F-4 Phantom was a capable aircraft, setting several speed records soon after it first flew in 1958. But then again, there have been many equally capable aircraft over the years. In the 1950s and 1960s, there was a flock of high-performance American jets in the skies or on the drawing boards: the F-101, F-102, F-104, F-105, F-106 and F-111. Where are they now?
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I'm a former F4-E, RF-4C, F4-G Phantom Pfixer. I LOVE the F-4!
I worked on the RF-4B with the Marines. That was a really sexy aircraft, and it proved, along with all the other versions, that thrust could overcome aerodynamics!
Prove it!
Edit: I was messing with Darryl. It's a joke
@@dayeeoliver I said it and if that's not enough for you, screw it and you. I served 26 yrs and was a contractor for 15.
@@darrylnelson6264 chill man! I was messing with you.
How about, I edit it and say it was a joke?
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I love F-4 too! I heard you call F-4, "forgiving"? Why's that?
I worked on C's, D's and E's, from March 1967 until February 1978. I was a WCS technician until I took a commission as an aircraft maintenance officer in 1978. I then ran F-4 equipped AMUs until 1981. I loved those airplanes and have many fond memories from those days. Phantoms rock!
i was Comm/Nav.
WCS 1973-1986. I trained at Lowry AFB on the F-4D, but spent most of my career on F-4E. I learned a lot about radar and missiles!
@@michaelbetzer1966 I was also WCS from 1969 to 1996. Trained at Lowry on the F-4E. Worked E's at George AFB, then the squadron brought in Cs, and Ds. I worked F-4C, F-4D, F-4E, F-4F and F-4G aircraft.
@@michaelbetzer1966 I went to tech school at Lowry AFB also. I was there in 1973 when the USAF Thunderbirds performed at Buckley ANGB in the F-4E Phantoms. 😊
After 60 years of service ....still a very beautiful plane.
I have always loved the F-4, ever since I first jumped in one of them back when I was 9 years old and ever since, I would see them fly everyday above my house and now I get to ride these birds. Just a correction, Greek F4's ain't got many years left in service, and Japanese F4's retired about a year ago, it is sad that the last Phantom in service in Japan made its last flight.... I am so thankful that these amazing, spectacular, astonishing, majestic, beautiful planes are still in service in my country!
It is amazing to see these beautiful old war-birds flying over half a century after their design was first developed, there is something to them that I can't describe that makes me feel in a unique way, they bring so much beauty and emotion.
I believe that fighter jets of that era are like Gibson and Fender guitars. The best ones were made in the 50's and 60's. There's something about that time period where excellence was just that much better.
I will always love these planes no matter how better and advanced the upcoming ones will be.
My uncle, William Elmore, and his design partner drew on paper and invented the F-3J for McDonnell Aircraft Company. That plane was renumbered by the Pentagon as F-4. Then they slapped on the name Phantom. It's modest by todays standards but at the time it over performed against the Pentagon's goals. The finished product arrived under budget. Every year it was produced it cost a bit less because of the "Learning Curve". Much of what is built into the F-15 was invented and developed thru the F-4 program. The biggest design secret was the aerodynamic theory that twin horizontal engines was the very best platform in almost all situations. That idea still plays out in almost all platforms today.
Interesting story 👍 that would of been in 1952 in a small room on slide rules. The Crusader was it's only competition but still served along side with the phantom.
@@enricomandragona163 Well, actually, it was a huge design center on the NW corner of Lambert International Airport, Bridgeton, Missouri. The 3 story building was an octopus with several arms. At the time there were probable 100 design boards, each 5'X8' in size. There were slide rules, everywhere. In 1970 Uncle Bill took over that building and had about 350 design tables working for him. He was a great, but, quiet man.
Yes I read that in one of the many Phantom books I have. I feel privileged to have personally worked on the war horse and get to touch one every month
Even though the F4 is considered obsolete. That underbelly twin engine is still sexy to me.
The Israelis and Greeks put together an update package that brought it to a point where it was able to keep up with f-15's.
“Sexy”? You must have an internet aircraft porn addiction
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@@iwantyourcookiesnow who doesn’t
Several of our old jets would hold up today The F4, F106, F20. All fine planes for their roles.
The F-4 still have room for upgrade. They should continue to upgrade the F-4 so that it can out last the MIG-21.
I agree!
I loved the way the Phantom looked in Thunderbird colors. Now the f16 takes its place. Both great aircraft
I've always had a love for the Phantom. My father was stationed at Rammstien,AFB, Germany. Where I would watch Phantoms, from across the base, take off at night. Seeing their huge afterburner from that distance, was awesome!
So long as the airframe is up to it, and provided the electronics and the engines are updated, the F4 is still a very potent weapon. Ask the Iranian pilots during their 8 year war with the well equipped Iraqis, what they thought of the F4 and how much punishment that old fighter took, and it still came out with its head held high.
The F4 is my favourite jet of all times
Fun fact that the F4C that received Spain during 1970 some of them had air to air victories and when they were repainted with the Spanish airforce colors those air to air victories were maintained, also the radar and some electronics were changed because at that time they were obsolete
That version was able to carry sidewinders!!
@@enricomandragona163 obvious that they use aim9. They use the aim9 and the aim7
Your wrong!! Only the F-4C with a weapons pod was able to shoot any missiles!! The RF4-B & J-S didn't!!
@@enricomandragona163 men you are wrong all f4 were able to fire Misiles without any pod. You are refering to the gun pod that f4 with no internal canon use
No I'm not wrong!! & The word is man not men!! And no I'm not referring to the external cannon !! Photo phantom have no fire control!! I worked on these aircraft!!
Remember during the Cuban missile crisis f4s were scrambled out of lambert a couple times a week and broke the sound barrier right over st.charles .
Great fighter. A masterpiece of American Engineering.
Well, to be fair, in Greek service, the F-4E is only externally a Phantom, internally is a very-very different beast. All Greek F-4E PI (Peace Icarus)-2000 AUP (Avionics Upgrade Program) in Greek service have been upgraded by the German DASA and have received:
-the Hughes APG-65GY radar (the same one fitted on the F/A-18C/D),
-the Honeywell H-764G navigation system combining LINS & GPS,
-the NAVCOM AN/APN-232 CARA radar altimeter and Elbit Modular Multi-Role Computer (MMRC). The cockpit has also been enhanced with Elbit multi-function colour displays, new DTS & the imaging system V-80AB-F,
-the AN/APX-113 Advanced Identification Friend or Foe (AIFF),
-the possibility to use targetting pods, especially the Litening pod. With the Litening pod, Greek F-4E can now undertake non-traditional intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (NTISR) duties and launch laser-guided bombs (or designate these weapons for other types). Furthermore, the use of the Litening pod has upgraded the role of the weapons system officer (WSO). An experienced WSO serves as the "brains" of the tactical formation, providing regular situational awareness updates to other jets, increasing the probability of a kill in air-to-air missions or providing accurate attack parameters for air-to-ground missions.
The upgraded Greek F-4E PI AUP is capable of carrying the AIM-120 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM), AGM-65G air-to-ground missile upgraded with the CCD seeker, AGM-130 air-to-ground guided missile.
In short, the upgraded F4E PI AUP is the poor-man's F/A-18 Hornet.
The purchase of the Rafale F3R by the Greek Air Force though, will lead to its retiremement from active service.
Even today the f4 phantom remains one of the most beautiful birds gracing the sky.
One of the best looking fighter jets ever built.
Spent four years as a plane captain and power plant mech on the F-4 B/N/J models and helped integrate the newer smokeless engines into the fleet in 1977. Loved those birds!
Kudos I was right after you on the FID , VF-74
F-4J&S
I started my USAF career working on F4 E's in 1981 in West Germany at Hahn AB. It's my second favorite behind the F117 which was a weapons loaders dream
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I loved this video! It was concise and easy to understand for a non-pilot such as myself. My father, USMC fighter pilot Major M.W. Maddocks flew the RF-4B Phantom in Vietnam and over Cuba. He tested into fighter school via NAVCAD and was in from 57-69. His last active duty assignment was in El Toro, Calif., where he went after being released from Vietnam. I can't help but feel partial to the F-4s, despite their older style. Hope to see more on the F-4. And, if you have anything on the A4-D Skyhawk, my Dad spent 500 hours in them, and served as a nuclear weapons delivery pilot. Thank you, Sue
After japan retired the heavily upgraded phantom in 2020 the only operators are South Korea, Greece, Turkey and Iran
There some very good videos on RUclips of the last operational sorties of JASDF Phantoms. Dec 31, 2020 was a sad day for the JASDF 301st Squadron.
Love the F-4 Phantom. It does suck to see them fade out. She still holds the record for an air frame-breaking and setting most aviation records for a single air frame.
I love this plane. I kind of grew up with it. When I was a child, the 36th Fighter-Bomber Squadron and later the 72nd Fighter Squadron were stationed near us. I still remember very well the days when we spent hours at the airport watching these machines take off and land.
Nice greetings from Germany
The prettiest jet fighter I've ever seen
When the U.S military air base in the Philippines are still operational during that time, majority of the combat aircraft that are designated in that base in Clark Field, Pampanga are composed by the Mcdonell Douglas F-4 Phantoms, in several different variants in general. When finally the withdrawal of the said air base came in 1992. It is so unfortunate that the Philippine government administration during that time has never try to expressed any particular interest upon the possible acquisition for those old but still very useful F-4 Phantoms. There is no more use for them anymore, in the U.S military service in some point, because they are slowly been replacing by a new and more highly equipped combat aircraft such as the F-18, the F-14, the F-15 and the F-16.
Just as well !! Better to not let them get into the wrong hands!!
Two howling smoking J79s,the Bent Wing Bug Sucker was my favorite as an AQF. Rate,plane, ships, bases all closed,retired, scrapped. That bird looked sharp sitting on the ground, and my brain bounced inside my helmet when it was full KOB on the cat. Ex phantom phixer
The Phantom is one of the Best Fighter Aircraft ever built . Certainly , advancing technology has overtaken it , but , it took a while .
Brilliant aircraft!
I worked on F4's from 1968-1988. F4C,D,E. Maintained the Weapons Control System. Radar, Bombing System, Gun Sight, Missile Firing
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F4- Avianocs have been updated by Turkey and now is used as Ground Attack Role.
The major problem in Vietnam was the rules of engagement which required positive visual ID before engaging enemy aircraft. This short circuited the use of missiles. Not a true measure of its capability.
Another belter and best wishes to you for 2022 👍
The Great Flying Brick, quite the Legend
The bent winged bug sucker from St Louis! Also a jagged monster that was notorious for Phantom bites!
Another Great Airplane
The F4E phantom is one of my favorite aircraft bad to bone tha come to Mc.Clellan AFB Sacramento California back in the 1970 and 1980 love the F4E phantom 11
Most beautiful fighter plane ever built.
F-4 is my number one !
I like !
During the Vietnam war, many times Russian pilots were flying the MIGs against the US.
Clark Air Base 1986 we had 46 of there they were not easy to work on. Jagged-edged underbelly panels hanging down meant many phantom bites.
Tactics, politics and NO GUN doomed the Phantom II during Vietnam and it still proved itself to be the superior fighter of the war.
Perfection ❤
This plane is a real evidence,that even brick with powerfull engine can fly.
The Rhino was 1 bad mofo in its day...Went to the gulf with the 561 TFS & we rain hell on the Iraqi radars. The Wild Weasels will always be close to my heart.
F-15 never downed in air combat? F4s 106 ? Why, whats the context? F4s have seen 50-1 the air to air that f15s have? Probably closer to 100-1 . Now you could believe the f15 would still be at zero losses or you might believe it would have taken a few on the jaw if required to do the heavy lifting the BUS did! The F4 was and is ...
B52 is older still flies
But it still serves a critical mission tho and the F4 has other aircraft that replaced it and it’s missions. There’s a big difference here
2 Words a Legend
Love it
The F-4 Phantom was a very big, very fast bus!!
one of the Best ❤
A true legend.
Phantoms Phorever !
Currently Greece has 34 but only 18 in frontline service we expect to retire them in 4-5 years
We were born the same year yet, she does not show her age. Still a beautiful War Bird.
In spite of it's F designation, F4 was conceived as fleet defender-interceptor. It being used as a fighter was just an afterthought.
F-4 Phantom 👍❤
The name of the phantoms, which was jointly modernized with Turkey and Israel, is the F-4E 2000 Terminator. By the way, the nickname of F-4s in Turkey is "FATHER". Since the Turkish Air Force could not acquire the F-35 aircraft, it will have to use around 30 F-4E Terminator aircraft until 2030. It is estimated that the F-4E terminators will be taken out of service with the new fighters of the Turkish TFX program entering service with mass production in 2030. (Sorry for mistakes in my english.)
The Israelis made an upgraded version of the Phanton called "Heavy Hammer", that would rival the F-15.
Rival the F-15? Baloney.
It was able to hit mach 2.8!! Lol
Kara şahin ( efsaneleri biz eğittik)
Bir f4 efsanesi
from 1975 thru 1997 i packed the drag parachutes
It's still a mach 2 fighter bomber and can shoot a big bullet from many miles away.
Replace the engine with pratt and whitney 1120; apply pulse doppler ised by turkey and greece; mount the m161 20 mm vulcan cannon in the side of the pilot much like the f105 ; install ecm radar. esult a wondrous piece of aircraft that can fight head on with todays 5th generation fighters. Phantoms Phorever
That engine would never work!! Besides I never heard of it!!
You should mention the reengined British version.
The RN pilots preferred the GE79 engine over the RR Spey, the last batch of Phantom F.3s bought for the Falklands in 1984 all had the GE engine.
I knew a squadran Leader who flew the F4s bought from the yanks. After some re-engineering to take UK weapons is was a great ship. He loved it. Gave the Argies a bit of a worry too.
Parabéns o F4 merece
1:46 F15 never been shot down except when Saudi's thought enough We should stop this record now.
An F15 crashed in Iraq while in air combat. The Americans refuse to acknowledge this as a kill for propaganda purposes.
Yes, exactly. I refuse to acknowledge it. Complete denial. Yes. Perfect record.
Best fighter jet ever produced.....
No.
01:47
Houthi : bitch please
Exactly 😁😁, Finally Saudi's broke the record.😎🤧🤧
It was shot down by a ground-to-air missile. That is not considered aerial combat you ignorant fools.
Bit unfair on the F-4 Phantom there.
A lot came back with large amounts missing.
They are flying tanks.
Their mission was somewhat different from the later F-15.
Also unfair because the services gave up air combat training during the 60's. Once the Navy reinstated it, the kill ratio shot way up. Col. Olds, CPT Ritchie, and a very few others were the only individual bright spots for the Air Force.
For Japan, SoKor and other allies please donate your aging F4 Phantoms to the Philippines! 🇵🇭 It will be very useful for my country thank you! 🇵🇭 ❤ 🤝 🕊
Good video. I enjoyed it and will recommend it. But....... At 1:50ish, 2:40ish & 6:50ish you showed a pair of RF-4B (USMC variant) and talked about armament it carried. These variants carried no armaments. No missiles nor guns. They counted on slightly faster engines to get away.
Still is my favorite aircraft and probably always will be.
Source: I use to work on them.
Didn’t Japan just retire the Phantom in 2021? Great aircraft though! Remember going to airshows in UK and seeing the RAF version fly.
so many parts to aircraft have gotten smaller while being more powerful that most aircraft that were great aircraft in their day would be great aircraft in modern times. Some would be better in many aspects than newer or even the latest generation of aircraft.
اعظم طائره حربيه في زمانها
Still a good product.. especially in the fast jet [RF] mode. Clean up the AUX fuel tanks a bit so they don't have to be dropped foe SS cruise and a couple of pods, such as EW, ISR or target designation pod .. adds confusion to the battlefield area. [Gun and run] .. Just because you can see them, doesn't mean you can catch them, or want to.
The F4 Phantom = an awesome killing machine, I tell you that.
The military should have never gotten rid of it
I’m a Phantom Phanatic
มันแก่แต่รุ่นมันเฉยๆไอัทึ่บินๆอยูีนะมันใหม่เอึ่ยมครับลองเอาไอ้ตัวเดิมไว้ สตาร์ทเครื่องติดปะเถอะครับ
Just can't count out, A Missouri Bird. Always Fly NAVY 😁
В Северной Корее до сих пор МИГ--17 и МИГ-21 на вооружении стоят.
One of the best during the 60/70s...The Israel Air Force knows best
Brazil operates 2 of these aircraft as well
I'm sad that Japan will no longer fly these beautiful beasts I got to see them fly a lot.
They flew close air support for us dropping iron bombs and napalm. i was awed.
Only real combat mission that Korean F-4 carried out was 3 Phantoms vs a UFO.
Good afternoon to all from SE Louisiana 11 Jan 22.
You're from Louisiana? That's really sad. You have the condolences of the entire RUclips community.
McKinley Mac Yes I’m from Louisiana, and your condolences are not needed. And I’m sure you do not speak for the whole You Tube community. I have been all over this planet and I’m free to go anywhere I wish. I choose to stay in SE Louisiana. Where do you live?
@@billmorris2613
Perhaps I was a bit hasty. I was in Southwest Louisiana for some time and the people said there was little difference between those two places. But I shouldn't have posted my comment with no real-world experience.
They said the biggest difference was between North and South Louisiana. So admittedly it might... MIGHT.... not be so horrible where you live. Hopefully not, for your sake.
Edit: Sorry, I neglected to answer your very fair question. I live in München, Deutschland.
McKinley Mac There is not much difference between SE and SW Louisiana. I have two brothers that live in the Lake Charles area. Besides the weather what about SW Louisiana did you not like? In my travels around this planet the only place that came close to having the great food we have was Italy.
@@billmorris2613
Oh yeah the food was very good. Even something simple like reds beans & rice was good. But communicating with the people there was very hard. They would not consider anything else to be correct except the way they did it. And this was applied to everything. They would *intentionally ask me* what sports I liked and then laugh and say everyone else was stupid if the person was not an LSU fan. Yes stupid... after they asked for my opinion.
That's just one example but it was that way about EVERYTHING. They refused to consider that if anyone did something different that it would be okay. They said "damn Yankees are such assholes" when they were the ones acting like that. One guy said he worked 'up there' and "told those assholes all about themselves"(I'm not a damn Yankee at all).
And btw he seemed to be the only one that had ever traveled more than 10 footsteps from his place of birth yet they were _experts_ on how other people lived.
Great plane; past it now. Still useful as a bomb truck.
Phantom's greatest honor was the invasion of h3 Iraq, where Iran destroyed more than 50 Iraqi fighter jets at a base on the Jordanian border with eight phantoms.
Not a single Iranian fighter was destroyed in the operation, and all returned to base safe
Iranian pilots refueled under radar sight, which shows the courage of Iranian pilots
This operation has not been repeated in the world and it is the largest air operation related to Iranian phantom fighters and pilots.
Of course, Tomcat and F-5 and refueling planes also took part in this operation
2nd hand missiles?
The Iranians are experts is that area...
She is beautiful.
F15 Eagles are amazing gun trucks
Iran never got any type of RF-4S because they weren't built yet! RF-4B's are accurate.
Then marine phantoms in the video animation are photo aircraft & don't shoot missiles as described. Although point taken.
Mig-21: im still in used in many countries and flown by pilots
Old smokey, total fkn beast, I'd have to go with the j79s over the speys 🇬🇧 because I like to go VERTICAL 👌
You forgot to mention Japanese F-4s
What is wrong with being a clumsy bruiser if the bruises are deadly?
As a strike bomber it was O. K. but as a fighter it was next to useless.
Canards plus other equipment to make it turn tighter it would have been a good fighter.
You forgot Philippine arsenal still have that
Consider this = it took the f14, f15, f16 & f18 COMBINED to effectively replace this 1 plane.
Oh man dont get me started.
Good Video, The Phantom was a Great Fighter, The Top Brass in the LBJ administration failure to train pilots to Dogfight was the issue. Brave men like Frank Ault and Dan Pedersen started to retrain pilots on using the vertical in a school they started called Fighter weapons school. These pilots took the ratio from 2:1 to 24:1 with the phantoms by the end of Vietnam. I wonder what the ratio would have been if these pilots was trained to Dogfight at the beginning of Vietnam?
Australia doesn't have then. They were replaced ages ago.