People saying its suspect are not being unkind to the family. They jidt stent being as naive as yourself and others. The family should want the truth as well.
It's all so very suspect. Remember folks nobody stays famous and wealthy without giving sacrifice or being humiliated it's some twisted game. Could be anyone involved.
You must be living really under a rock. Maybe because I am a mother and a teacher I try to stay informed. Something and someone might escape me but I think it is important to have something in common with the you get generations. Then it is impossible to keep up with everything … Feeling sad for an other person who became more famous than he would have imagined and probably saw things that a 15 year old boy should not see. So if killed or self inflicted it is still the same story… Feeling for his family
Once again, there are many things that don’t add up about this incident. Tragically sad, but my gut feeling tells me there is more to it than will ever be revealed. RIP Liam and love and strength to all those that loved him. ❤
If you look at the picture they show of the room with drugs I noticed the coke was to thin to be coke. It look like caster sugar fine which is way to fine for coke and where was the card he was using? Also the Dove soap box is out of place, but if you look up dove its related to death so that makes me believe its a sign to say job is done. Also they have made it look like he was using brown. If you look at the foil it has brown bits on it and the cut off can top which was burnt. The can top is out of place as a user would not use the top end of a can, they use the bottom end. I could be wrong in modern times. At first my daughter came and showed me an article saying he jump of the roof, then I see the Sun saying 4th floor and BBC saying 3rd floor. As an older person I have heard these stories for many decades and nothing is different. People need to look up Cory Monteith and see the patterns they use. A lot of music artist over the decades they say have passed from drugs or mental health and many of us know this is not the case.
@@thewrathfullloner it's been stated already that the hotel is regularly used by the rich and famous, music stars etc. So they didn't want all the bad publicity... I honestly think he was fooling around on the balcony and he has slipped... It is stated that he would do things like this, climbing things etc.. Sad
Could someone scream in fear if they were in a state of semi or total unconsciousness whilst falling? A guest at the hotel reportedly heard a violent scream at the time Liam fell, which makes me wonder if he really was in a state of even semi-unconsciousness? Or is there a cover up over the possibility he was not the only one in that room, and may have been pushed? Just a thought. Unless, of course, the scream was from an onlooker.
I can totally relate to what you are saying, Shaun. It’s scary to look deep into one’s soul but it’s the only way. I’ve lost quite a few friends myself.
💯 about trauma. I'm a therapist and help people do this all the time. I've also worked in a rehab where everyone had trauma. Trauma isnt what happened to you its what happened to the insides of you as a result of what happened to you! (Gabor Mate) Spot on Shaun. It does take YEARS.
I know that this is a deeply sad and tragic topic, but the fact that they took away Liam's car keys and he just went and bought another car is so funny to me. It's so grotesque i can't lol.
It's crazy, I watched a video today of his dad checking out the hotel balcony, and the flowers 💐 was so sad to watch, or did they rob him ? And that's why he kicked off. That sounds a more likely scenario to me. Or did they take pictures? I'd be surprised what with all his money that he wouldn't pay them.
It is a peculiar state of affairs when people are dying all over the world in wars and we focus so much on one man. I have done it too. Why do we expect so much from celebrities. We build them up to be far more important than they should ever be. I'm so sorry for his son, as I would be for any child losing a father.
Apparently he’d lost his record deal, strange the girlfriend left. I’m unconvinced of her reasoning. The blame on his ex Maya is weak. Liam was clearly living a lie hurting a great deal, no other reason to dose up on drugs and alcohol, blocking something out. Media have been way too quick to blame suicide. Hotel witnesses claiming he Was convulsing going in and out of consciousness, staff apparently carried his body back to his room and leave him unattended makes no sense. The police for the hotel manager pointing out the balcony and jump risk, to admit to leaving him unattended?
do some research then. he and his girlfriend went to argentina and was pllaning to stay there for 5 days to attend nialls concert. yet they ended up staying 2 weeks. she has a life to live so went home. she isnt his babysitter
@@alvinlibra115 na can’t blame the call girls, the drugs the people who enabled him the one’s responsible for carrying him leaving him unattended. Why was he so at risk of jumping, state he was in he could have died from a number of things. Can’t even blame the ex ether for the book or his girlfriend who clearly knew of his mental state when she selfishly left him. Can’t even blame the record deal loss. But a man unconscious and convulsing from one minute to the next wouldn’t be able to walk alone let alone unlock a door jump let out one random scream. Such a horrific end no one deserves. RIP and I truly hope his family find answers and peace one day.
Mrs H 🇬🇧 ...Thank you Shaun for sharing what you've over come...VERY far from easy & many struggle for decades before they are able face up to they demons & we know many don't make it ...💔😥 BUT in Liam's death something doesn't seem right to me ...Extremely devastating...RIP Liam 💔😥🙏
Shaun, you have e a great show & I look forward to your vids . The content is so interesting and enlightening regards to subjects & guests we k ow nothing about. The stories are riveting. Thanks for your work .
From South Africa fly on angels wings son. May you have eternal peace. Gone but never forgotten. I pray for strength and healing for your family and boy. May your boy always know unconditional love and inner peace 🙏
Shaun, you are the best. I love listening to you because you are well informed & also I like to hear the North West accent of the UK. I was born & raised in Manchester, UK til I was 32yrs. I married an American & have lived in Boulder, Colorado since 1982. I still have my British accent & proud of it. I hear a little Liverpudlian in some of your words so I am assuming you live nearby Liverpool. Thanks for really interesting podcasts. 🙂
Powerful stuff Shaun. I needed to hear about the trauma stuff ..I don’t know what made me think of you and couldn’t recall your name..So glad I found you again brother from across the pond 🙂✌🏻
You are where are because of your experiences. Those things made you the person you are today. Kudos to you for doing the work. It shows in your compassion and authticity🙏
And I too have a family member addicted to cocaine.. I have been thro the works trying to save him but all I was doing was ENABLING him.. I now have to watch the tragedy unfold until such time as he SAYS HIMSELF IM READY FOR HELP...😢
Hearing the phone call to the police started me off, to me he looks like he was beaten before going over the balcony, the amount of injuries from a 3 floor is not norm. That person on the phone sounded like he was reading a play that had already been played, Poor sod how terrifying for him. Cover up i 🤔 🤔
Liam asked for help or at least expressed his desperation, but it doesn't appear that he was offered any real or constructive help. I watched Liam's video from last year when he got out of rehab. So he was 'clean' but he was still visibly unwell and unstable still and should have had therapy and more time to recover. I'm disgusted at the lack of care from the music industry that got him at age 14 and promised him the earth, then practically dumped him when they had used him and he didn't have the 'right fit' anymore. IMO Liam was groomed to be exploited.
Going to rehab and working his 12 steps would have made him face his demons. Unfortunately it can be too much for people as you have to be clean to start them. First the detox then the therapy. We use drugs to blank our traumas and pain. It’s like wrapping yourself in a big duvet of comfort, always saying “ oh I will sort it out tomorrow “ I am clean now but was a heroin addict. My daughter has been 15 years an addict. There dad’s mum was giving her 4 children heroin at age 5. Some of us are born with an addictive personality and will always reach for a mind altering substance at every trauma or chance. Can be anything. Other people don’t have an addictive personality and can go on a bender at the weekend and go to work Monday. An addict will be robbing their granny on Monday for more. Addiction is a really sickness and so sad. One is too many and a thousand never enough as we say.
Another junkie musician who fell from hotel balcony CHET BAKER, it was in Amsterdam and people still think it may have not been an accident, but murder, like a dealer might've done it, but yeah, it's always terrible when anybodys life is just snuffed out unaturally
Totally off-subject, but, your thoughts on your early life and resetting your life made me think of a loved one. He also had a wild drug filled youth. What killed him in the end was cigarettes. As his health declined and he was house-bound, one of greatest pleasures was your channel. Thank you for giving him that gift.
I think you have hit the nail on the head first of all you have to have the character to support success. Some of these kids have been given the key too a candy store. And just like in hansel and greteal they are lured in and fattened up for the industry to devour. My heart goes out for addicts and the self medicators especially when you have had trauma in your life. Trauma adjust you it puts that flight or fight mechanism and that's why drugs and alcohol soothe that reaction. Its of course a plaster to what needs surgery a quick fix and then that becomes another issue in itself so you are left with not only the trauma but an addiction. Its like a cruel setup. God bless Liam and his family I have lost people from addiction so I feel their pain acutely. Sometimes you cannot save a person from themselves xx
This is just more of the same. Another person who knew the wrong thing about the wrong person and had to be silenced .. at this point are we even surprised by this kind of stuff anymore ?
I so much agree with you Shaun ive had two sons on drugs if it wasnt for rehab and doing the 12 steps working on what bothered them inside they are now clean and serene for 6years now they had tryed doing on the own but it dont work they have addictive personalities
Its crazy that there is so much talk about one wealthy human being dying, RIP and all that, im sure he was a decent guy but ffs have a look at the world, every dead person in gaza, Ukraine blah blah all have stories all have families going through the same pain.
Feelin a bit left out here, i have no clue who Liam Payne is, or One Direction, only popped up because of Piddly Diddly, hope shaun wasn't at the parties lol.
Is mental health therapy paid for in the U.K.? No job equals no health insurance, copays for visits if you do. In the U.S., not having insurance is a big roadblock to getting help. Hypnotherapy is not covered for citizens but it is prescribed for CPTSD or PTSD for military veterans. Somatic therapy is needed but not covered. The whole system for mental health in the U.S. needs to be revamped!!!
It's supposed to be... We have the NHS that is supposed to be the free health care here... Just the waiting list is so long...!!! You can pay for private if, not just having a job, you have a GOOD job...!!! Sorry to hear this dude... This comes from my own personal experience with the NHS and my head...!!! (And no... No private for me!!!)
This was murder / and sadly this is always what’s said about these people…. This is playbook on how to silence / punish those who don’t follow the plan once they wake up and find out their fame has a steep price
Nope. The nhs is broken. But im sure liam could have afforded any help privately and be admitted that day. Going from a strict routine for a massive chunk of his life to then cast out on his own obviously ruined him. He needed structure clearly. I also think he was on the spectrum, self medicating with stimulants.
I don’t believe the ‘story’ we are being told - he wasn’t alone in that room, he seems to have been attacked - and the room looks very staged! Who made the call for help … because they kept mentioning the balcony, and that they feared he might harm himself?!! He knew he was in trouble - he tried to tell people he might die soon, including his ex …. but no one cared enough to help him 😢 But she’s quite happy to write a book and make money off the back of it and write personal information all over social media … very sad behaviour.
Who took him back into his room after they said he was in the lobby screaming and destroying his laptop god bless his soul condolences to his family at this sad time 🌹🥰
Where where the motherly or fatherly instinct of these hoteliers! He was such a lovely boy! He is only 2 years older than my son! Don’t tell me that, no one could have helped! Whom ever has taken him from the lounge to his room, knowing that he was convulsing! That person should have stayed with him, and then call for help in the same way!! He is not my son, but I am a mother!!❤
SO AT 14 WENT ON BRITAIN'S 🇬🇧 GOT MUPPETS 🤣🤣 SANG FLY ME 2 THE MOON 🌙 🌚. ONLY AT 31 TO BE FLYING ALRIGHT 🥴🤧🍾🥂🍹🍸🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃 , BUT HIS DESTINATION WASN'T THE MOON IT WAS AN ARGENTINIAN 🇦🇷 BODY BAG & THE MORGUE. THE F'IN IRONY. MAN 😮
I can’t believe he would of hired escorts. Maybe it’s just me, but he had plenty of”ready available” willing ladies surely? 🤷♀️ And why did they take him back to a room with a balcony if that was their main concern?
Sean! Or Shaun! Whichever is correct. He was with sex workers and was drunk. Okay. He was drunk later, but then he spoiled it all by intentionally leaping off the balcony What does anyone do about a thing like that,,
Show respect especially his x gf he cant defend hisself We have no prove his gf wasnt there theres lots of questions to answer still why if he was off his head did hotel take him back to his room and not hospital and not stay with him
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Liam is a Son and has a SON so please be kind ❤ RIP LIAM ❤
People saying its suspect are not being unkind to the family. They jidt stent being as naive as yourself and others. The family should want the truth as well.
Hardly saw him did he . .
@@laif0961 exactly 👍
Quite right x
John Wayne Gacy was a son and had a son.
It's all so very suspect. Remember folks nobody stays famous and wealthy without giving sacrifice or being humiliated it's some twisted game. Could be anyone involved.
look no further than the bloke with the melted face and flared jeans, you all know
it's not suspect he was out of his mind with alcohol and drugs period
@@lareeriverola3637 proof?
@@Sulismin3rva not necessarily, I am friends with show biz people, the drugs can really physically mess you up
@@martinPatsy I don't know why I am even bothering responding. I don't know anyone and don't particularly care if I'm completely honest. 🤷
I guess I’ve been living under a rock. I have no idea who this poor soul is. I’m 65, so maybe that’s why. What a sad sad story. RIP Liam.
I'm 43 and I am the same
Same for me had to research who he is. Pure sadness, may Liam, soul be in peace
Strip that down, wasnt he in a boy band 🤔
In the biggest boy band and then just stopped which was weird in itself!!
You must be living really under a rock. Maybe because I am a mother and a teacher I try to stay informed. Something and someone might escape me but I think it is important to have something in common with the you get generations. Then it is impossible to keep up with everything …
Feeling sad for an other person who became more famous than he would have imagined and probably saw things that a 15 year old boy should not see.
So if killed or self inflicted it is still the same story…
Feeling for his family
It’s a bit strange that no one filmed his outburst in the lobby.
Surely there’s ctv in the lobby of the hotel ??
Apparently it "stopped working" an hour before his death
@@thewrathfullloner
How very convenient
Because he was peacefully hanging out in his room 🤔🤷♀️
@@yukonsusievideo or photos of torn apart room?
You can gain the world, but lose your soul. How sad
Yes.. Its not what you gain its what you lose. Loneliness is the real price. Fake world of fame.
Proud of you Shaun. God Bless you Abundantly.
Prayers for Mr Payne and his family, all who loved him. Rip Liam 😢😢
I love your honesty and compassion,Shaun!!
Blessings sent from Newfoundland Canada 🇨🇦❤!!
Shaun...love your posts and all your interview.s...you been there and done that and you are always so honest and compassionate. Xx
From South Africa Rest in peace 🙏🙏🙏 and condolences to the family ❤
Rest in peace Liam 🙏🏻
Once again, there are many things that don’t add up about this incident. Tragically sad, but my gut feeling tells me there is more to it than will ever be revealed. RIP Liam and love and strength to all those that loved him. ❤
If you look at the picture they show of the room with drugs I noticed the coke was to thin to be coke. It look like caster sugar fine which is way to fine for coke and where was the card he was using? Also the Dove soap box is out of place, but if you look up dove its related to death so that makes me believe its a sign to say job is done. Also they have made it look like he was using brown. If you look at the foil it has brown bits on it and the cut off can top which was burnt. The can top is out of place as a user would not use the top end of a can, they use the bottom end. I could be wrong in modern times. At first my daughter came and showed me an article saying he jump of the roof, then I see the Sun saying 4th floor and BBC saying 3rd floor. As an older person I have heard these stories for many decades and nothing is different. People need to look up Cory Monteith and see the patterns they use. A lot of music artist over the decades they say have passed from drugs or mental health and many of us know this is not the case.
So true. It can’t look anymore staged. The same thing happened to the drummer in the foo fighters
"I wish everyone could become rich and famous so they can see that it's not the answer." - Jim Carrey.
gatekeeper
✨️It's often the simple things in life that end up meaning the most ✨️
Family is everything. A true sanctuary. Sadly all broken and the result is stunning. Mental health is here and until we restore values it never ends.
Shaun, your lufe is truly fascinating. And I love the way you interview people. Keep up the good work.
Oh dear what else bless him .. let him rest now ! 😢
Condolences to All his Family 💕💙💜🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Find it kinda weird that even the phone call to the police they kept saying stuff about the balcony???
All seems a bit suss some saying he was unconscious ans carried to room so how did he go over balcony or smash room up
Cameras not working 😢😢
@@eunicesaitithat is the part that made me go wait a damn minute,it just so happened that one hour before his death the cctv stopped working
The police were in no hurry unless a life was in danger.
@@thewrathfullloner it's been stated already that the hotel is regularly used by the rich and famous, music stars etc. So they didn't want all the bad publicity... I honestly think he was fooling around on the balcony and he has slipped... It is stated that he would do things like this, climbing things etc.. Sad
Could someone scream in fear if they were in a state of semi or total unconsciousness whilst falling? A guest at the hotel reportedly heard a violent scream at the time Liam fell, which makes me wonder if he really was in a state of even semi-unconsciousness? Or is there a cover up over the possibility he was not the only one in that room, and may have been pushed? Just a thought. Unless, of course, the scream was from an onlooker.
Totally agree
I can totally relate to what you are saying, Shaun. It’s scary to look deep into one’s soul but it’s the only way. I’ve lost quite a few friends myself.
As a mother of adult crack addiction,for 23 years,NO HELP OR SUPPORT FOR THOUSANDS,MANY WHO END UP COMITING SUICIDE.😢
I'm so sorry for your loss x
💯 about trauma. I'm a therapist and help people do this all the time. I've also worked in a rehab where everyone had trauma.
Trauma isnt what happened to you its what happened to the insides of you as a result of what happened to you! (Gabor Mate)
Spot on Shaun. It does take YEARS.
❤
May you find peace now Liam.
A life too short. So sad.
I know that this is a deeply sad and tragic topic, but the fact that they took away Liam's car keys and he just went and bought another car is so funny to me. It's so grotesque i can't lol.
It's crazy, I watched a video today of his dad checking out the hotel balcony, and the flowers 💐 was so sad to watch, or did they rob him ? And that's why he kicked off. That sounds a more likely scenario to me. Or did they take pictures? I'd be surprised what with all his money that he wouldn't pay them.
It is a peculiar state of affairs when people are dying all over the world in wars and we focus so much on one man. I have done it too. Why do we expect so much from celebrities. We build them up to be far more important than they should ever be. I'm so sorry for his son, as I would be for any child losing a father.
Apparently he’d lost his record deal, strange the girlfriend left. I’m unconvinced of her reasoning. The blame on his ex Maya is weak. Liam was clearly living a lie hurting a great deal, no other reason to dose up on drugs and alcohol, blocking something out. Media have been way too quick to blame suicide. Hotel witnesses claiming he Was convulsing going in and out of consciousness, staff apparently carried his body back to his room and leave him unattended makes no sense. The police for the hotel manager pointing out the balcony and jump risk, to admit to leaving him unattended?
Its a copybook now.. Too many have gone too young.
There must be a proper investigation since there were sex workers involved.
@@lynncuthbert2307 yes
do some research then. he and his girlfriend went to argentina and was pllaning to stay there for 5 days to attend nialls concert. yet they ended up staying 2 weeks. she has a life to live so went home. she isnt his babysitter
@@alvinlibra115 na can’t blame the call girls, the drugs the people who enabled him the one’s responsible for carrying him leaving him unattended. Why was he so at risk of jumping, state he was in he could have died from a number of things.
Can’t even blame the ex ether for the book or his girlfriend who clearly knew of his mental state when she selfishly left him. Can’t even blame the record deal loss. But a man unconscious and convulsing from one minute to the next wouldn’t be able to walk alone let alone unlock a door jump let out one random scream. Such a horrific end no one deserves. RIP and I truly hope his family find answers and peace one day.
Sometimes famous people play silly games and win silly prizes like the rest of us.
Mrs H 🇬🇧 ...Thank you Shaun for sharing what you've over come...VERY far from easy & many struggle for decades before they are able face up to they demons & we know many don't make it ...💔😥 BUT in Liam's death something doesn't seem right to me ...Extremely devastating...RIP Liam 💔😥🙏
God Bless Liam n May he rest in peace. So very sad. My heart goes out
to Bear. Liam so Loved him. From South Africa.
Shaun, you have e a great show & I look forward to your vids . The content is so interesting and enlightening regards to subjects & guests we k ow nothing about. The stories are riveting. Thanks for your work .
From South Africa fly on angels wings son. May you have eternal peace. Gone but never forgotten. I pray for strength and healing for your family and boy. May your boy always know unconditional love and inner peace 🙏
Love your content sean 😊
Shaun, you are the best. I love listening to you because you are well informed & also I like to hear the North West accent of the UK.
I was born & raised in Manchester, UK til I was 32yrs. I married an American & have lived in Boulder, Colorado since 1982. I still have my British accent & proud of it. I hear a little Liverpudlian in some of your words so I am assuming you live nearby Liverpool. Thanks for really interesting podcasts. 🙂
There's always 1 sacrifice in a band
All of these famous people die young…not coincidental.
Yes to Cory Feldmen
Why did she go home and leave him
Liam's death seems suspicious?
YES Shaun!!!
Your wise words in this episode about 'recovery' are amazing!!! (And experienced......)
No conspiracy, he made a choice to take drugs and unfollow this was the outcome RIP🙏😇
Yes plz repost Corey,he deserves all the respect 💙
Powerful stuff Shaun. I needed to hear about the trauma stuff ..I don’t know what made me think of you and couldn’t recall your name..So glad I found you again brother from across the pond 🙂✌🏻
trauma does not have to lead to drugs and alcohol. just talking from personal experience
I'm pleased you never used them to self medicate...Good for you.. 👍Everyone copes differently
You are where are because of your experiences. Those things made you the person you are today. Kudos to you for doing the work. It shows in your compassion and authticity🙏
Rip liam
And I too have a family member addicted to cocaine.. I have been thro the works trying to save him but all I was doing was ENABLING him.. I now have to watch the tragedy unfold until such time as he SAYS HIMSELF IM READY FOR HELP...😢
Same here only it's alcohol in my daughters case she is 43 and been drinking heavily for years there's nothing you can do 😢
Like being catapulted from a balcony
Respect please!!! Lost a lovely young man who had a great future 💗.RIP
Hearing the phone call to the police started me off, to me he looks like he was beaten before going over the balcony, the amount of injuries from a 3 floor is not norm. That person on the phone sounded like he was reading a play that had already been played, Poor sod how terrifying for him. Cover up i 🤔 🤔
Liam asked for help or at least expressed his desperation, but it doesn't appear that he was offered any real or constructive help. I watched Liam's video from last year when he got out of rehab. So he was 'clean' but he was still visibly unwell and unstable still and should have had therapy and more time to recover. I'm disgusted at the lack of care from the music industry that got him at age 14 and promised him the earth, then practically dumped him when they had used him and he didn't have the 'right fit' anymore. IMO Liam was groomed to be exploited.
Going to rehab and working his 12 steps would have made him face his demons. Unfortunately it can be too much for people as you have to be clean to start them. First the detox then the therapy. We use drugs to blank our traumas and pain. It’s like wrapping yourself in a big duvet of comfort, always saying “ oh I will sort it out tomorrow “ I am clean now but was a heroin addict. My daughter has been 15 years an addict. There dad’s mum was giving her 4 children heroin at age 5. Some of us are born with an addictive personality and will always reach for a mind altering substance at every trauma or chance. Can be anything. Other people don’t have an addictive personality and can go on a bender at the weekend and go to work Monday. An addict will be robbing their granny on Monday for more. Addiction is a really sickness and so sad. One is too many and a thousand never enough as we say.
Life is really hard... and way too short.
- Woody Allen
Shaun please do a program about the esoteric business going on with "shattering the base chakra"
Don't think that's really necessary. Use your imagination then un=use it!
Another junkie musician who fell from hotel balcony CHET BAKER, it was in Amsterdam and people still think it may have not been an accident, but murder, like a dealer might've done it, but yeah, it's always terrible when anybodys life is just snuffed out unaturally
So damn sad. So young.
A hard read !!❤so very 💔
Very suspicious 🤨
Totally off-subject, but, your thoughts on your early life and resetting your life made me think of a loved one.
He also had a wild drug filled youth. What killed him in the end was cigarettes.
As his health declined and he was house-bound, one of greatest pleasures was your channel. Thank you for giving him that gift.
I think you have hit the nail on the head first of all you have to have the character to support success. Some of these kids have been given the key too a candy store. And just like in hansel and greteal they are lured in and fattened up for the industry to devour. My heart goes out for addicts and the self medicators especially when you have had trauma in your life. Trauma adjust you it puts that flight or fight mechanism and that's why drugs and alcohol soothe that reaction. Its of course a plaster to what needs surgery a quick fix and then that becomes another issue in itself so you are left with not only the trauma but an addiction. Its like a cruel setup. God bless Liam and his family I have lost people from addiction so I feel their pain acutely. Sometimes you cannot save a person from themselves xx
This is just more of the same. Another person who knew the wrong thing about the wrong person and had to be silenced .. at this point are we even surprised by this kind of stuff anymore ?
I so much agree with you Shaun ive had two sons on drugs if it wasnt for rehab and doing the 12 steps working on what bothered them inside they are now clean and serene for 6years now they had tryed doing on the own but it dont work they have addictive personalities
Its crazy that there is so much talk about one wealthy human being dying, RIP and all that, im sure he was a decent guy but ffs have a look at the world, every dead person in gaza, Ukraine blah blah all have stories all have families going through the same pain.
As for the sec workers that’s bullshit as we all know they get paid first lol 😂 don’t blame them for trying it on 😂😂 bless him ❤
Do you think he was traumatized because he was told he had to bend over?
Feelin a bit left out here, i have no clue who Liam Payne is, or One Direction, only popped up because of Piddly Diddly, hope shaun wasn't at the parties lol.
Something weird going on here,
Please repost Corey 🙏 ❤
Is mental health therapy paid for in the U.K.? No job equals
no health insurance, copays for visits if you do. In the U.S., not having insurance is a big roadblock to getting help. Hypnotherapy is not covered for citizens but it is prescribed for CPTSD or PTSD for military veterans. Somatic therapy is needed but not covered. The whole system for mental health in the U.S. needs to be revamped!!!
It's supposed to be...
We have the NHS that is supposed to be the free health care here... Just the waiting list is so long...!!!
You can pay for private if, not just having a job, you have a GOOD job...!!!
Sorry to hear this dude... This comes from my own personal experience with the NHS and my head...!!! (And no... No private for me!!!)
This was murder / and sadly this is always what’s said about these people…. This is playbook on how to silence / punish those who don’t follow the plan once they wake up and find out their fame has a steep price
Nope. The nhs is broken. But im sure liam could have afforded any help privately and be admitted that day. Going from a strict routine for a massive chunk of his life to then cast out on his own obviously ruined him. He needed structure clearly. I also think he was on the spectrum, self medicating with stimulants.
If you can afford it yes otherwise you have years of waiting.i think Liam had an intervention not long ago.
Just stop being poor
I don’t believe the ‘story’ we are being told - he wasn’t alone in that room, he seems to have been attacked - and the room looks very staged!
Who made the call for help … because they kept mentioning the balcony, and that they feared he might harm himself?!!
He knew he was in trouble - he tried to tell people he might die soon, including his ex …. but no one cared enough to help him 😢
But she’s quite happy to write a book and make money off the back of it and write personal information all over social media … very sad behaviour.
Im not really that familiar with this young man, but it's tragic, hopefully he is on peace. 🙏
From the description of what guests heard prior to Liam’s death, it is very possible he was in a blackout from drinking.
Who took him back into his room after they said he was in the lobby screaming and destroying his laptop god bless his soul condolences to his family at this sad time 🌹🥰
Where where the motherly or fatherly instinct of these hoteliers! He was such a lovely boy! He is only 2 years older than my son! Don’t tell me that, no one could have helped! Whom ever has taken him from the lounge to his room, knowing that he was convulsing! That person should have stayed with him, and then call for help in the same way!! He is not my son, but I am a mother!!❤
The book that his ex wrote came out in may
Can we stop saying that he jumped)killed himself ,the reports said that he fell not jumped
SO AT 14 WENT ON BRITAIN'S 🇬🇧 GOT MUPPETS 🤣🤣 SANG FLY ME 2 THE MOON 🌙 🌚. ONLY AT 31 TO BE FLYING ALRIGHT 🥴🤧🍾🥂🍹🍸🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃 , BUT HIS DESTINATION WASN'T THE MOON IT WAS AN ARGENTINIAN 🇦🇷 BODY BAG & THE MORGUE. THE F'IN IRONY. MAN 😮
You are a sick individual… SUBhuman cruelty they lack conscience & mortality totally
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Liam Payne? That's an NPC character name if I ever heard one. Taking one for the team, huh?
They was a man called roger with himSAID ONE OF THE WEDDING GUEST
Did you say he had 2 sex workers to the room that didn’t get paid?
Any cctv files?
small hats took it
I don’t believe he fell.
I can’t believe he would of hired escorts. Maybe it’s just me, but he had plenty of”ready available” willing ladies surely? 🤷♀️
And why did they take him back to a room with a balcony if that was their main concern?
Sean! Or Shaun! Whichever is correct. He was with sex workers and was drunk. Okay. He was drunk later, but then he spoiled it all by intentionally leaping off the balcony
What does anyone do about a thing like that,,
The escorts shouldn't have mentioned him not paying them cos that gives them a motive.
Just so happens x gf bad mouths him and has written a book nothing like bad mouthing and cashing in
Show respect especially his x gf he cant defend hisself
We have no prove his gf wasnt there theres lots of questions to answer still why if he was off his head did hotel take him back to his room and not hospital and not stay with him
Why?
I have no pity for dumb people who make their own educated decision to take drugs.
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WHATS LIAM PAYNES FAVOURITE SONG 🎵 🤔
" I BELIEVE I CAN FLY 🦸♂️ 🎶🎶🎵🎵 "
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