Forspoken is Gonna Flop - Not Good for Square Enix

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  • Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024

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  • @TKDBoy1889
    @TKDBoy1889 Год назад +423

    It's so weird. Japanese companies initially see worldwide success because a large audience of westerners appreciate the Japanese culture, style, and methods of storytelling. Their response? "We must be more like Westerner to appease Westerner!" I just... I don't... We love you guys for being unapologetically Japan, not wannabe American!

    • @DKarkarov
      @DKarkarov Год назад +11

      This is a false read in a big way. What motivated the making of this game I don't know, but if you look at the actual games Square Enix is releasing you will see they are releasing tons of JRPG's that are very Japanese. This game is not a trend, it is a one off, in gameplay, ip, and well.... everything.

    • @lenarmangum8630
      @lenarmangum8630 Год назад +9

      Literally this! 👍

    • @Nerevarine420
      @Nerevarine420 Год назад +25

      @Karkarov they aren't, tho I get so tired of the square defense force
      Most of the jrpgs they have released in the past 5 to 10 years have been multi-platform re-releases or shit like kingdom hearts 4 and ff7r. They have essentially dropped all traditional jrpgs outside of the occasional game like triangle strategy and tactics ogre re-release . They aren't 90s square anymore stop defending their practices. This is the same company with over 7 ff7 spinoffs and nfts planned they're creatively bankrupt

    • @Nerevarine420
      @Nerevarine420 Год назад +12

      @Karkarov they got lucky a gem like near automata dropped into their laps

    • @guillermodominguezdelafuen2730
      @guillermodominguezdelafuen2730 Год назад +3

      I mean, Japanese very often make their products a bit "less Japanese". Not too much, just a bit. Think of the Silent Hill games. You can tell it's got Japan written all over. And yet its a series of games that conform to a lot of typical western common places.

  • @Negius
    @Negius Год назад +247

    She calls the final boss a "gaslighting sack of shit" during the final battle.

    • @Mr_Mistah
      @Mr_Mistah Год назад +74

      Very gen z

    • @samgoff5289
      @samgoff5289 Год назад +79

      Sounds like a TikTok instead of a video game

    • @narakanakura3348
      @narakanakura3348 Год назад +23

      Even 7yo can do better insults

    • @ericwalker6477
      @ericwalker6477 Год назад +30

      Cringe. What pronouns did she use for the boss? 😅

    • @ThisIsAUsername69
      @ThisIsAUsername69 Год назад +16

      Is gaslighting this year's favorite word? I've never heard it before in my life as much as I did this year.

  • @kyon2221
    @kyon2221 Год назад +527

    "All I hear is I, I, I, I" basically represent all virtue signallers

    • @edmontonboy99
      @edmontonboy99 Год назад +44

      All *I’s* on me

    • @phoenixxxashez
      @phoenixxxashez Год назад +59

      Way to make your main character an insufferable narcissist. Good job SE.

    • @budgiecat9039
      @budgiecat9039 Год назад +17

      Feels like writers here were trying to mimic Neir with the wise talking book Weiss arguing and conversing with Kaine but failing miserably. Yoko Taro actually knows how to write.

    • @YoshiTheOreo
      @YoshiTheOreo Год назад +11

      These are lines the player should be saying, not the character.

    • @spider-cop007VII
      @spider-cop007VII Год назад +2

      @@edmontonboy99goooood one 😎

  • @humrH2360
    @humrH2360 Год назад +618

    Forspoken is what happens when you let a Californian write an Isekai.

    • @enalb5085
      @enalb5085 Год назад +64

      we need to wall that state off and make sure no food gets in

    • @guybeleeve
      @guybeleeve Год назад +19

      The Californians(SNL)

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake Год назад +20

      They took Amy Hennigs concept for this games world and ruined it!

    • @BigNopes
      @BigNopes Год назад +11

      @@enalb5085 I was thinking we could go fracking for oil at the fault line and see if we can speedup its removal from the mainland.

    • @erikuu96
      @erikuu96 Год назад +15

      This might as well be Velma the video game, Lol

  • @rockytheblackdragon
    @rockytheblackdragon Год назад +357

    Not only I'm holding Square Enix accountable for their actions, I'm also blaming the corrupt Ethics Department of Square Enix

    • @budgiecat9039
      @budgiecat9039 Год назад +21

      Its crazy how the two Western games they did that were actually good they ruined them (Deus Ex and Sleeping Dogs). They got United Front shut down. Also they never did anything significant with the Legacy of Kain series other than a godawful PC only first persona multiplayer shooter (and they canceled a single player game which actually looked promising). So yeah killing those IPs, messing up Tomb Raider, messing up Hitman, and dropping the ball on Marvel's Avengers hard. Only GotG came out good somehow.
      And then of course there's their own Japanese made failings: FF XV taking 10 yrs to make and being mid, Left Alive being a poor attempt at Front Mission, Balan Wonderland......nuff said, Chocobo Racing reboot being a GaaS thats being shut down, and lastk....Babylon's Fall....or Babylon's Fail. So yeah this game is just another peg on their checklist of catching L's
      Lets hope FF XVI and FF Remake part 2 are decent. jeez..

    • @michaelfranzgarcia7769
      @michaelfranzgarcia7769 Год назад +1

      purge all diversity hires and woke western employees

    • @MrTed89
      @MrTed89 Год назад +7

      It also not helping signing a no Xbox clause with Sony when they are not in the position financially to sign exclusive deals and when there other games except final fantasy is failing.

    • @aniken6877
      @aniken6877 Год назад +5

      Accountable for making a stupid game.

    • @c4caffeen134
      @c4caffeen134 Год назад +2

      Ya we all saw that panel at the last E3 & all that signaling - I'm not touching this game. This character looks completely annoying and Matty said the endless dialogue continues constantly throught the entire game.

  • @AxionSmurf
    @AxionSmurf Год назад +50

    Japanese companies have the same problem that all companies do: People are in charge who don't understand why customers like their product.

    • @boboboy8189
      @boboboy8189 Год назад +3

      this is why SE should stay in Japan only

    • @leongay3190
      @leongay3190 Год назад

      @@boboboy8189 or sony buys them

  • @karmicbacklash
    @karmicbacklash Год назад +78

    “Ok, that is something I do now”.
    This is a unholy synergy of cringe inducing dialog and impossibly smug delivery. I love how bad it is 😂

    • @phoenixxxashez
      @phoenixxxashez Год назад +9

      I can't get over the gap in her teeth. That's so distracting. 😂

    • @TheStraightestWhitest
      @TheStraightestWhitest Год назад

      @@phoenixxxashez You expect a woman to be pretty? BIGOT! WOMEN ARE NOT YOUR PLAYTHINGS! REEEEE!

    • @samgoff5289
      @samgoff5289 Год назад +5

      Who the hell talks like that....even if someone handed me a script I would be like ok wtf is this I don't tak like this, nobody does let's fix this

    • @c4caffeen134
      @c4caffeen134 Год назад +2

      I want to watch some walkthroughs just to see the 🔥🔥 takes from the players lol

    • @masterroshi3548
      @masterroshi3548 Год назад +2

      reminds me of a crappy Disney show

  • @GordonShemway1
    @GordonShemway1 Год назад +147

    Square Enix will learn a painful lesson, but a valuable one.

    • @Mr_Mistah
      @Mr_Mistah Год назад +19

      Doubt it. They still want to pursue NFT's and microtransactional goods

    • @James.Gatsby
      @James.Gatsby Год назад +20

      Don't hire woke californian writers for their game, just stick to their guns.

    • @Tyrbris
      @Tyrbris Год назад +5

      They rarely learn from their mistakes.

    • @silverhawkroman
      @silverhawkroman Год назад +3

      You never go full ME: Andromeda...

    • @jonathanpretty5031
      @jonathanpretty5031 Год назад +3

      @@silverhawkroman Sorry, my face is.... tired.

  • @austinbrown8002
    @austinbrown8002 Год назад +124

    I spend most of my time these last few years learning as much as I can about politics and media bias, and my only real time to escape from all that nonsense is when I sit down for an hour or three a day and engross myself in a good video game. Now that they are relentlessly shoving thier politics and indoctrination in my face in that realm as well, I am more determined than ever to help take back our cultural spaces from these ideological bullies.

    • @dream6562
      @dream6562 Год назад +3

      I mean bioware games had political themes in them too

    • @khalidahmed8402
      @khalidahmed8402 Год назад +17

      @@dream6562 the difference was that those themes were implemented with the story and characters in mind

    • @Jay_Sullivan
      @Jay_Sullivan Год назад +6

      Well, supposedly, this game doesn't have that crap, but people aren't buying it. Hogwarts and The Last of Us Part 2 have that crap, but people rushed out to buy those games. People refuse to vote with their wallets and then continue to complain about how the problem hasn't gotten better. You are the problem!

    • @michaelbush1374
      @michaelbush1374 Год назад +9

      @Jay_Sullivan I voted with my wallet on those two games. I saw the TLOU2 leaks and did not buy the game at all. Hogwash Legacy I am not buying because it's the only thing more gay than the last of us. And I'm using the word gay mid 2000's style.

    • @Jay_Sullivan
      @Jay_Sullivan Год назад +2

      @@michaelbush1374 , I respect that.

  • @MundaneThingsBackwards
    @MundaneThingsBackwards Год назад +101

    By the way, this is the kind of dialogue you write when you're scared to DEATH of offending someone somewhere. How's that saying go? You don't need free speech to talk about the weather? lol. Just have your character tell the audience what's going on and every single inane thought they come up with in their lobotomized head. There's also the possibility that the writers are amateurs who've been hired for something other than their talent. Gotta hit those quotas, boys and girls.

    • @Jay_Sullivan
      @Jay_Sullivan Год назад +1

      How so? Whom would she have offended if she reacted more to your liking? You are being absurd. She was geeking out a bit because she just found out that she can perform some type of magic. I truly don't see the issue, and none of you are articulating it. What would the character have said or done if you made the scene?

    • @MundaneThingsBackwards
      @MundaneThingsBackwards Год назад +14

      @@Jay_Sullivan SHOW DON'T TELL. SHOW DON'T TELL. SHOW. DON'T. TELL.
      This is writing 101 and what people are complaining about. There's no good way to have your character blabber about how cool they think their new powers are, my friend of questionable taste. lmfao.

    • @Jay_Sullivan
      @Jay_Sullivan Год назад

      @@MundaneThingsBackwards , it's "Writing 101," says the guy who seemingly hasn't read Shakespeare. She wasn't even giving a soliloquy; she was speaking to someone or something that can converse with her. I'm sure you've never said to a friend something such as, 'did you see that shot?! I'm the greatest! Suck it.' Go watch another Critical Drinker video, as you clearly don't understand writing. Actually, you should probably study someone far better than he.
      Please, give me the dialogue that you would have written. I'm sure it's sublime.

    • @CommDante
      @CommDante Год назад +7

      @@MundaneThingsBackwards
      Comes off as a kindergarten cartoon... But I guess that's their focus these days, people with kindergarten 'maturity'....

    • @YouTubeCensors
      @YouTubeCensors Год назад

      @@Jay_Sullivan I'm all for trashing this game but the first clip I didn't find particularly bad.
      There's other clips which do show worst scenes but it's biggest failures are technical

  • @NickNapoli
    @NickNapoli Год назад +182

    The look on Melonie’s face while watching the gameplay explains everything. One giant facepalm.

    • @c4caffeen134
      @c4caffeen134 Год назад +1

      That's what I was looking at too 😂

    • @queenpurple8433
      @queenpurple8433 Год назад +2

      @@c4caffeen134 I’m always looking at her face mmmmm

    • @GastNdorf
      @GastNdorf Год назад +1

      Those big almond eyes tell no lies

  • @sonoftherabbitpeople4737
    @sonoftherabbitpeople4737 Год назад +23

    Sanford and Son was one of the most popular shows across all demographic lines in the 1970s. The TV audience back then did not care at all that all of the characters were black. You couldn't make that show today. They would have to bombard the audience with "messages" and no one would sit through it. Let's go back to the 1970s and start again from there.

    • @ggrarl
      @ggrarl Год назад +2

      "I'm comin', Elizabeth!"

    • @jcarby23
      @jcarby23 Год назад +2

      Agreed. As much as this game is flopping, I appreciate Forspoken is following what you just described, as race is inconsequential to the story and evidently is never even brought up.

    • @phillytallguy3894
      @phillytallguy3894 Год назад +1

      💯

  • @ElsuUni_
    @ElsuUni_ Год назад +90

    The dialogue makes the original Resident Evil look like Shakespeare.

    • @phoenixxxashez
      @phoenixxxashez Год назад +9

      It makes the dialogue in the DMC reboot seem like Shakespeare.

    • @christopherloyd8938
      @christopherloyd8938 Год назад

      That's funny and f***** up to you know this game is going to flop and speaking of Resident Evil imma go play that part 5 that has a Native American Indian woman don't have terrible dialogue🤔😎

    • @kennethstephens1110
      @kennethstephens1110 Год назад

      It makes the original House of the Dead dialogue seem like Shakespeare

    • @Samurai_Stoner
      @Samurai_Stoner Год назад

      You can shut it off genius, learn to read

    • @Deadmare
      @Deadmare Год назад

      What you talking about? Original resident evil writing was gold 😆

  • @jobi1kawobi317
    @jobi1kawobi317 Год назад +150

    I don’t even know how it’s possible to make dialogue this bad but they really showed us it’s possible. Keep it jrpg!! We love Japanese entertainment!! 🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @LVTHORAscending
      @LVTHORAscending Год назад +13

      The acting is worse than a safety training video, fr. 😆

    • @christopherloyd8938
      @christopherloyd8938 Год назад +6

      @@LVTHORAscending the lead actress is the same girl you all remember from a certain Charlie's Angels that bomb at the box office yeah that is her I don't like the film it was given to me for free so you know this is very bad😎🤦

    • @LVTHORAscending
      @LVTHORAscending Год назад +3

      @@christopherloyd8938 Lol ouch

    • @Raytheman581
      @Raytheman581 Год назад +2

      I love Jrpgs, but square enix dialogue for FF games have been kinda garbo for ahile. FF15 lines for the most part are trash.

    • @samgoff5289
      @samgoff5289 Год назад +5

      @@christopherloyd8938wasn't she in that awful and also canceled resident evil Netflix show? Or was it someone else

  • @SuperStarWarsFan1138
    @SuperStarWarsFan1138 Год назад +66

    I tried the Forspoken demo, and there was too many things going on the screen. Dialogue aside, trying to figure out the menus, the controls, and the largely empty open world was disappointing enough to save me $70.

    • @LukiGames0
      @LukiGames0 Год назад +1

      This game requires 4080 for PC to play on 4k 60 ... It is a poorly optimized game and these scenery do not require that graphic. It will run when optimized properly on 2060 at least. My game prototype with similar graphical level in pre alpha runs at smooth 70 in editor mode and 120 in standalone game mode on UE5 with RTX 2060 Super.

    • @sholmesbrown
      @sholmesbrown Год назад +9

      Same. Looks ok from trailer so I tried the demo.
      Lasted 20 mins then uninstalled it. Yuk!

    • @LVTHORAscending
      @LVTHORAscending Год назад +6

      I'm so glad demos are still a thing, unfortunately we don't get the luxury of getting them for every AAA title, but at least it's not a dead concept.

    • @selpharessecret3899
      @selpharessecret3899 Год назад +1

      Actual game is better than the demp, but it is still kind of meh

    • @PainX187
      @PainX187 Год назад +4

      had the chance to see it on console it looked very blurry at times like low resolution

  • @davidhfranz
    @davidhfranz Год назад +28

    The last time Square tried to appeal to a western audience was 2001 and it nearly bankrupted them (Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within) forcing them to merge with Enix as a result.

    • @fejkpirat5118
      @fejkpirat5118 Год назад

      That’s one terrible movie. 😂

    • @caliginousmoira8565
      @caliginousmoira8565 Год назад +1

      i thought it was because they went way over budget for the cgi.........

    • @walkman06
      @walkman06 Год назад

      Merging with Enix ends Squaresoft golden era.

    • @davidhfranz
      @davidhfranz Год назад

      @@caliginousmoira8565 That too, as well as their all-star cast (Ming Na-Wen, Alec Baldwin, Steve Buscemi, James Woods, Peri Gilpin)

    • @leongay3190
      @leongay3190 Год назад

      to be fair it was sony pictures first cgi movie

  • @paulf631
    @paulf631 Год назад +94

    I refuse to believe that ForSpoken was done by the Japanese division of Square i mean this game has so many Check boxes It had to be done by the American division
    I guess Fingers crossed if FF16 will be any good
    Great job has always Melanie much love from the UK

    • @NormanReaddis
      @NormanReaddis Год назад +9

      Forespoken is a re-purpose Agni's Philosophy in the name of "equity".

    • @SamM_Scot
      @SamM_Scot Год назад +24

      It wasn't. This is from the western division studio within Square and it shows :-)

    • @Superabound2
      @Superabound2 Год назад +5

      There hasn't been a good Final Fantasy game since 12

    • @aygaion2295
      @aygaion2295 Год назад

      @@Superabound2 i Hate to agree with you on that, FF7 ie good butnits a reamake so it dosent count

    • @NormanReaddis
      @NormanReaddis Год назад +2

      @@Superabound2 XV is an incomplete masterpiece still. Way more FF than XIII in terms of world building.

  • @BonerBot
    @BonerBot Год назад +97

    The reveal trailer looked cool. Put it on my wishlist. Played the demo. Removed it from my wishlist.

    • @Psychof1st
      @Psychof1st Год назад +2

      I need to play the demo if it's still up. Heartbreak is painful. But, it must be done before we can move on.
      I was hyped for this game, too. Gameplay should be most important. But still, if you can't bare some aspect of a game, then it can really drag it down. The release state of some games in the last 5 years, for example, I've had to put down until they patched the gameplay. That would be crazy if they tried an experiment and patched the entire writing, story, dialogue and voice acting. LOL

    • @MrJaces
      @MrJaces Год назад +2

      As soon as "fuck" popped its ugly head up, I knew this was going to be cringe. What is up with "writers" these days depending so heavily on cursing every 8 seconds. Even in Ragnarok there was an unnecessary amount of it.
      Personally it should be reserved for really big uh oh or revelation type moments.

    • @davidkay1948
      @davidkay1948 Год назад

      @J.D. then stick to kids games sorry

    • @davidkay1948
      @davidkay1948 Год назад

      @@MrJaces what's fucked is the dialogue of a woke mob lol

    • @funtourhawk
      @funtourhawk Год назад +1

      All I had to do was look at the "protagonist" lmao....woke flop guaranteed

  • @erikuu96
    @erikuu96 Год назад +18

    That 5 second clip just saved me a lot of money, these writers should call Geico.

  • @dackstar.2017
    @dackstar.2017 Год назад +10

    Thank you, Ms. Melonie! Where are these writers coming from??? Can't go to the movies, can't watch a play, can't see a commercial, and now can't play a game without this "crappy stuff". This stuff has gotten ridiculous and is oozing everywhere in so-called entertainment.

  • @Honah13
    @Honah13 Год назад +18

    Feels like the same writers that brought us Willow

  • @Iamrooq
    @Iamrooq Год назад +40

    When I first saw the protagonist I was trying *SO HARD* to not write it off as a “Western-Sensitive” game, but then when she started talking I couldn’t take it anymore. It is so sad cuz the game itself looks *SO* promising in concept, but of course I can just feel the “Americanization” all over it

    • @funtourhawk
      @funtourhawk Год назад +1

      Literally every character I saw was female...obviously was gonna be woke garbage

    • @meeksvaughan1398
      @meeksvaughan1398 Год назад +1

      Californianization

  • @Legionsadvocate
    @Legionsadvocate Год назад +38

    I think I want us to go back to the era of silent protagonists.

    • @SarahNGeti
      @SarahNGeti Год назад +1

      I liked Lightning and Cloud from FF because they didn't talk a lot and sound like attention seeking valley girls, now we got this! 🥴

  • @tjroelsma
    @tjroelsma Год назад +12

    Compare this to the banter between Master Chief and Cortana when she first was inserted into his suit and therefore head: she made the snarky comment of Master Chief's head having "lots of space", to which he reacted with punching his helmet, "shaking" her up. Soon they found their groove: Master Chief started to appreciate what Cortana added to his capabilities and Cortana appreciated what Master Chief could do and that he was an honourable man. I miss having the competent writers and creators from those days.

    • @gmualum08
      @gmualum08 Год назад +2

      My favorite was at the end of Halo CE where they had to go inside the Pillar of Autumn and he crashed the Banchee getting in and Cortana said "You did that on purpose didn't you?" LOL

  • @icepicjoey
    @icepicjoey Год назад +12

    This is why the Hitman Developers left Square.

  • @soccreyes4647
    @soccreyes4647 Год назад +11

    I just moved sh*t with my mind said it 14x. Man, Mike Tyson should teach these writers how to write good humor dialogue before kicking ass. He's an expert with that.

  • @zacmeadows2294
    @zacmeadows2294 Год назад +24

    There is something called the 'uncanny valley effect' that is generally applied in robotics to the uneasy feeling we get towards the human like appearance we try to recreate with robots, I believe that applies here as well. That's the reason why 3D artists need to make these adjustments.

    • @monkian
      @monkian Год назад +5

      That is part of it but you can see from the trailer that the face is much closer to the models. The in game one does some weird stuff with her mouth making it look like someone else, at best an ugly cousin. A cynic might wonder why they would make a beautiful woman look so rough.

    • @SGT-Sasquatch
      @SGT-Sasquatch Год назад +3

      @@monkian You're not wrong.
      From my memory of the still that Mel showed the textures and shaders would play a big role in that, looked a lot like my first year game dev character before I learned how to use normals, spec and gloss maps haha.

  • @MechaShadow84
    @MechaShadow84 Год назад +16

    The pain.... THE PAIN!!! On a serious note, I saw the writing on the wall with this one a long time ago. Changing from a what looked to be a tech demo to a full fledged game definitely made it look like something was missed in the transition.

    • @SIPEROTH
      @SIPEROTH Год назад

      I think the good thing about the initial teaser was that she never talked.

  • @Bateluer
    @Bateluer Год назад +9

    This trend in modern western gaming has been highly detrimental. As soon as I saw the launch trailers, I knew exactly what the final product was going to be. Once we see 'DEI' attributes deployed in a game, we know what's going to happen. And as soon as player see DEI in the game, we've been conditioned to simply walk away. A decade ago, nobody cared in the slightest. Now? Its met with a groan.

    • @AscendantStoic
      @AscendantStoic Год назад

      Yeah, heavily westernized Japanese games (that try to mindlessly copy western and woke trends) are mostly utter garbage.
      How are Japanese devs missing the point so badly is beyond me, the main reason Japanese games succeeded outside Japan mainly because they were quite different from Western games, sigh!

  • @jimmyv3170
    @jimmyv3170 Год назад +12

    This is the R rated version of what my sister would say and act like after watching Hanna Montana and The Suite Life of Zack and Cody. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 The protagonist talks like a Disney Channel character

    • @HighLifeProds17
      @HighLifeProds17 Год назад +1

      It's kid-com level writing without the sex, drugs, and profanity filter. There's no charm from the actor or actress to leverage here, either. With that comes terribly unsubtle acting and painfully on-the-nose dialogue from characters you have to hope even have a second dimension to them.

    • @HighLifeProds17
      @HighLifeProds17 Год назад

      She even reminds me of a TV-MA version of Alex Russo from Wizards of Waverly Place (which was on around the same time as those other shows) with her biting, mean-spirited snark. Again, this lady lacks the charm and softer moments presented over there to balance her out and make her more likable.

  • @boredandconfused
    @boredandconfused Год назад +16

    The intro game dialogue sounded like instructions for what they want you to think. Like listen to dialogue! Assimilate! This is how you feel!

  • @Robertward111
    @Robertward111 Год назад +16

    Ya, I'll just wait for Hogwarts Legacy. Thanks for the heads-up Melonie.

  • @therealstephentv
    @therealstephentv Год назад +88

    Hey Melonie! You look incredible. I know a lot of people have been giving you shade online over your post. They just don't get your sense humor or understand your point about cute tomboy characters looking fit without looking manly. You make great and fun (and funny too) videos. You're pretty darn cool in my book. Looking forward to the next LIVE Stream. Take care and have a wonderful day Melonie.💛💛💛

  • @LVTHORAscending
    @LVTHORAscending Год назад +16

    Your reaction to hearing the dialogue is so great. Amazing video, hope you've been having a great day! 😆

  • @Nickel_The_Wise
    @Nickel_The_Wise Год назад +9

    what needles my ample, Cherubic pink buttocks about this whole thing is that writing a humorously detached character is real easy when you get down to it, going out of the way to make one that is just kind of loathsome with it seems like going an extra mile in the wrong direction. It'd be cooler for the approach to be excited, but also real cautious, like I actually do have supernatural abilities now, how do I keep from accidentally blowing off my own leg or turning some poor, thankful orphan into a giant foot by accident. Go absurd, but relatable.

  • @thisguydan
    @thisguydan Год назад +6

    The irony the writers room probably looks diverse in appearance, but the minds, thoughts, and life experience of the people in those rooms are as homogenous as can be. All of the characters in these kinds of shows, movies, and games sound and act and joke in exactly the same way. Real life isn't like that outside of their isolated bubble.

  • @peterfabell154
    @peterfabell154 Год назад +11

    The main writer (Todd Stashwick) is a TV bit actor who has played in over 130 shows, which may explain some of the oddball dialogue, especially if you watch his recent appearance in The Dungeon Run's "Tiger by the Tail" as Drooth Vandalyx (ruclips.net/video/PVuL4PFfKZM/видео.html).
    It's curious that before he even appeared on that episode of TDR, he had never even heard of Dungeons and Dragons (before his appearance, he thought it was a video game).

    • @michaelc1626
      @michaelc1626 Год назад +2

      How can you be alive and say you've never heard of D&D? That's like saying you've never heard of football lol

    • @peterfabell154
      @peterfabell154 Год назад

      The dialogue for the game is about as corny as his dialogue from Drooth in the show mentioned above, so no surprise there. He sounds like someone who probably would love Strangers of Paradise, but most likely loathes (or has never heard of) Final Fantasy XIV.

  • @GameplayzOfficial
    @GameplayzOfficial Год назад +8

    I'm just playing Nier Replicant, and to imagine the kid bickering at this level with Weiss would piss me off

  • @steventaylor6070
    @steventaylor6070 Год назад +6

    I’m black I just want to play games. I don’t care about color just great games.

  • @Maehedrose
    @Maehedrose Год назад +6

    Yeah, so, I never felt like the reboot Lara needed anyone to feel sorry for her or want to save her. I felt like she started the first game as a more-or-less normal person tossed into a nightmare situation and we get to go along this journey of awakening with her, where she learns to become the badass action-adventure woman by the end. The first game is actually very similar to Oliver Queen's transformation into the Arrow. I didn't care for the second game, but the third one comes back with an obsessed and overconfident Lara who puts her friends in danger and starts the apocalypse. This original trilogy has all been about her growth as a character, to me, and what the journey was to make her more like the original Lara who is done with causes and just wants to enjoy life again.
    I have heard the developer interviews, at least some of them, and if they were trying to make Lara feel helpless and damnseled, they failed as far as I'm concerned.

  • @WhiteWolf-io6hr
    @WhiteWolf-io6hr Год назад +21

    This game needed at least another five years and an extra two for optimization

    • @TheStraightestWhitest
      @TheStraightestWhitest Год назад +9

      This game needed an abortion. And I'm pro life, so that means a lot coming from me.

  • @jordangan3246
    @jordangan3246 Год назад +2

    As to quote Harrison Ford: “You can type this shit but you sure as hell can’t say it.”

  • @josephcrabtree3224
    @josephcrabtree3224 Год назад +42

    Always great to start the week off with a new video! Hope you have a fantastic day, Melonie. Can't wait for the next Fire Emblem stream.
    And congrats on 110k. Love to see your channel growing.

    • @MelonieMacGoBoom
      @MelonieMacGoBoom  Год назад +7

      Yesss I'm so stoked! :D

    • @McMahonHater
      @McMahonHater Год назад

      @@MelonieMacGoBoom One of my favourite female fantasy characters is Tika from the original DragonLance Chronicles trilogy. She start out, more or less, a regular girl working as a waitress, and develops into a kick ass warrior.

    • @josephcrabtree3224
      @josephcrabtree3224 Год назад

      @@MelonieMacGoBoom i was playing some while waiting for the stream. I'm so far behind you lol

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake Год назад +1

      @@MelonieMacGoBoom The took Amy Hennigs concept for this games world a destroyed it.

  • @zerosyks9255
    @zerosyks9255 Год назад +7

    Squaresoft. We miss you. The Enix part phucked it all up for us 90s early 2000s gamers.

    • @crazychris1123
      @crazychris1123 Год назад +1

      Enix was good though...at least through Star Ocean

    • @zerosyks9255
      @zerosyks9255 Год назад +2

      Yaa, Enix just published it. Mean while TRI Ace actually developed it. Star Ocean that is, If we're talking originally.

    • @crazychris1123
      @crazychris1123 Год назад +2

      @@zerosyks9255 yeah but during that time the games were good. After square fused with them they soured. Weird.
      It's almost like Square said they would allow one decent game (Till the end of time) then butcher the rest because final fantasy is their baby.
      Square has made some decent stuff after the fusion, it's not because they fused with Enix is what I'm getting at lol

    • @zerosyks9255
      @zerosyks9255 Год назад

      Well hopefully it's just a coincidence. Also I think there is a mess of games beside just Final Fantasy "which in my opinion has been on the decline since around ff9" saga frontier use to be good, then they changed it, screwed it all up. Parasite Eve used to be good, then they changed it. Xenogears used to be good, then they changed it. Idk feels like more then a coincidence to me.

    • @zerosyks9255
      @zerosyks9255 Год назад

      I agree, had they stayed squaresoft I think everything would have gone in a better direction. Was what I was saying. Lol
      Sry if I came off side ways ^^'''

  • @armandvega2752
    @armandvega2752 Год назад +6

    “Bring it you mangled monsters!”
    That was so CRINGE. Why can’t people write good dialogue anymore!?

    • @icebearnicho8256
      @icebearnicho8256 Год назад +2

      Idk, I think the best writers just aren't put in the limelight. Personally, I don't think the "I can move shit with my freakin' mind" part was that bad, given that there are plenty of characters (especially comic book characters) that basically had the same type of reaction/dialogue when discovering their powers. I don't think it was bad, just average. The mangled monster bit was hot garbage though, I'm not even gonna lie. It was terrible, I completely agree. But the whole "move shit with mind" shitck is something alot of characters have done ALOT in fiction, especially teen superheroes. I don't think it's "good" but then again I'm exactly sure what reaction they expect her to have. Maybe I'm missing something, it's just average to me

    • @LVTHORAscending
      @LVTHORAscending Год назад

      Bad dialogue writing is like the mumble rap of video games these days. Same with movies.

    • @Luminus2
      @Luminus2 Год назад

      Whoever wrote that doesn't know the meaning of the word "mangled".

  • @thatmeanpersononlineoffend9376
    @thatmeanpersononlineoffend9376 Год назад +4

    Am I the only one who thinks of the dialogue from Disney's Moana? That's what the character from Forspoken reminds me of. That little moment that Moana has before she smacks herself in the head with the oar.

  • @akuskus
    @akuskus Год назад +8

    The looks of the main character already say "the game is going to be terrible".

    • @charmingpeasant9834
      @charmingpeasant9834 Год назад

      Looks like she was designed with an Anita Sarkeesian type of consultant.

  • @mdredheadguy1979
    @mdredheadguy1979 Год назад +1

    This game sounds like it was written to make that character a modern feminist Snowflake: thinks she doesn't need a man for anything while ignoring the guy stuck in her head. That's a solid *PASS* from me.

  • @cruxknight0354
    @cruxknight0354 Год назад +14

    I mean, to be fair, Just Cause games were friggin' DOPE. Deus Ex, also dope. Countless hours of my life wasted (I use that term loosely).
    But...yeah, this dialogue is absolute dog water, wtf. Thanks for posting this, I'm glad I watched your review. I was stoked for this. Not so much anymore. Limiting reviews never spells confidence.

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake Год назад +2

      Just Cause 4 wasn't the best. It's a lot better now. But it's still like a 7 out of 10 after all its patches.

  • @DMT-ix9zj
    @DMT-ix9zj Год назад +7

    Woohoo lets make a game with a MC who just tells everyone to f off and hates pretty much everything

    • @Mr_Mistah
      @Mr_Mistah Год назад +1

      Reminds me of Jill Valentine in RE3 remake. Potty mouth that hates everyone. It's why I call her Karen Valentine

  • @NormanReaddis
    @NormanReaddis Год назад +16

    This game is a re-purpose Agni's Philosophy in the name of "equity". ESG Squenix in a nutshell.

  • @Fickji
    @Fickji Год назад +17

    This is why I root for silent protagonists.

    • @LegendRonk
      @LegendRonk Год назад +4

      Sometimes I want them to talk, but the grunts is most of the time enough...

    • @SarahNGeti
      @SarahNGeti Год назад

      Dark Souls and Elden Ring!

  • @timmytimmymit5607
    @timmytimmymit5607 Год назад +5

    The actress or the model they used as a protagonist was an actress who appeared in a woke feminist movie I think it was Charlie’s angels. Yeah it was a flop.

    • @NormanReaddis
      @NormanReaddis Год назад +1

      It was initially a tech Demo called Agni's Philosophy but was re-purpose to appease the ESG score.

    • @timmytimmymit5607
      @timmytimmymit5607 Год назад

      @@NormanReaddis oh yes I remember that. Why didn’t they stay faithful to that demo Agni’s philosophy?

    • @NormanReaddis
      @NormanReaddis Год назад

      @@timmytimmymit5607
      ESG score

  • @PlagueKill
    @PlagueKill Год назад +14

    This dialogue sounds as if the CW decided to make a game.

  • @kamerynhaynes7076
    @kamerynhaynes7076 Год назад +5

    My hopes right now are on Stellar Blade. Thank GOD it's not being made by a western studio.

  • @montymont5943
    @montymont5943 Год назад +4

    I didnt realize how pretty the model was, i thought she was a generated character, not based off of someone...they didnt do her justice...

    • @kennethstephens1110
      @kennethstephens1110 Год назад +1

      Ella Balinska she was in the 2019 Charlie's Angels film and Netflix's Resident Evil series

    • @AscendantStoic
      @AscendantStoic Год назад

      @@kennethstephens1110 Not really the best career choices 😂

  • @G2Bryce
    @G2Bryce Год назад +4

    11:10 It was only a matter of time before they started inserting their woke fantasies directly into the games story. They are using video games as a tool to depict their imagined view of how society works. South Park is a classic example, being black makes it harder and being white is easy mode. This is going to be the new normal, and the goal is to normalize this ideology for young gamers. So when anyone pushes back on their woke cult, they can turn around and say, "but in X game...", just like millennials would say, "but in Harry Potter..." for everything. This is what happens when you replace religion based morality, with fantasy based morality. Fantasy can be changed to suit the woke cult, which is why they are obsessed with saying religions are fantasy. The entire goal is to establish their woke cult as the new morality guide and even a new religion, a single unified religion which worships yourself over G-D. #SatanismInGaming

  • @nategarland4413
    @nategarland4413 Год назад +2

    She looks like an FF15 NPC. Love those melted crayon faces.

    • @Mr_Mistah
      @Mr_Mistah Год назад

      Ironically it's the same development team that made FF15

  • @CityBreakdancerMan
    @CityBreakdancerMan Год назад +10

    Forspoken is a great example of why Silent Protagonists in JRPG's are awesome.

  • @geekmastermind
    @geekmastermind Год назад +1

    They used "gnarly" unironically. No more comments about my regular, unironic use of "cool" and "groovy."
    Now get off my lawn. 🤣

  • @Spartanbot1001
    @Spartanbot1001 Год назад +5

    O.o that dialogue is straight out of She-Hulk. welp another game for me to skip.

  • @oluladeoni7516
    @oluladeoni7516 Год назад +2

    Well apart from the dialogue, the game is fun, it’s Infamous meets elden ring. The world is filled with a lot of bosses to fight. Enjoying it

  • @barryon8706
    @barryon8706 Год назад +4

    He literally wants the character to be less relatable for most of the audience.

  • @chrono2959
    @chrono2959 Год назад +3

    Just when you thought dialog couldn't be worse than the show Velma they totally redeem themselves

  • @charmingpeasant9834
    @charmingpeasant9834 Год назад +8

    I fear hearing such dialogue in the next Tomb Raider game😬

    • @christopherloyd8938
      @christopherloyd8938 Год назад

      If that happened no one is buying that game do you hear me right now probably ship and assholes they are going to buy not me I bought the last two I'll go back to play TR UNDERWORLD that's better🤔😎💯

  • @mikeytee6821
    @mikeytee6821 Год назад +2

    But...but....Frey is SO STRONG! SO BRAVE! SO BOLD! SO FIERCE!

  • @AvengingAngel2035
    @AvengingAngel2035 Год назад +3

    The dialogue error in this game is cultural in this modern era.

  • @AndrewR15
    @AndrewR15 Год назад +1

    It's an honor to be called racist nowadays.

  • @overheatedeskim054
    @overheatedeskim054 Год назад +3

    The funny bit is they took a paycheck from Sony to not release on Xbox for a year and now no one on xbox is going to buy it at all. A flop on one platform is way way worst than flip on all platforms.

  • @sanityclaus8433
    @sanityclaus8433 Год назад +2

    Makes me appreciate the stoic, silent protagonists of old. 🥰

  • @haarisajmeri9811
    @haarisajmeri9811 Год назад +3

    Totally agree especially most reviewers didn't get review codes & the PC port is like they didn't see the specs like for ultra graphics we need a RTX 4080 WTF & square enix is also confident it's gonna fail that's why they didn't provide so many reviewer's especially for PC review codes so please don't buy it before seeing reviews.

  • @phoenixxxashez
    @phoenixxxashez Год назад +2

    I'm glad that so far they are keeping FF16 away from the woke mob. I still have hope.

  • @yeshauditore2913
    @yeshauditore2913 Год назад +3

    That's some top tier marvel comedy right there, recently even the shazam 2 trailer had a similar dialogue.

  • @hakimehamdouchi7468
    @hakimehamdouchi7468 Год назад +2

    Dude... They made kingdom hearts. Fucking kingdom hearts. What happened in the writing department

  • @Sirriffsalot
    @Sirriffsalot Год назад +3

    I feel bad for Ella, she’s been getting bad scripts, RE Netflix series and now this. 😢

  • @gravekeepersven82
    @gravekeepersven82 Год назад +1

    Forspokens PC requirements are so off the chain and ridiculously OD that the fact that it still plays on 720p with 30 frames a second is absolutely garbage.
    Square Enix gotta put this in a dumpster fire and make this a tax write off.

  • @valnadis8577
    @valnadis8577 Год назад +8

    I always had the impression that Forspoken was never supposed to be a game, just a visual representation of what unreal 5 could do.

    • @timmytimmymit5607
      @timmytimmymit5607 Год назад +2

      It’s a perverted demo of Agni’s philosophy. But they wanted to make a Woke game. Why are Japanese tapping into the woke community? What are they trying to accomplish.

    • @r.d.6290
      @r.d.6290 Год назад

      @@timmytimmymit5607 Money

  • @terrymitchell3157
    @terrymitchell3157 Год назад +1

    "I want an escape......" There's the problem. You want to wind down after a long day, you want to get away from the real world for a while. However, that can not be allowed. You MUST have "The Message" force-fed to you 24/7! No comfort (white or otherwise), no fun, no escapism. It must be a constant barrage, all day every day! It truly saddens me that the company that brought us the Final Fantasy series has fallen into this "bend the knee" garbage. I SO hope that none of these devs worked or are gonna work on FFXVI. That's the only game I'm looking forward to atm.

  • @24framedavinci39
    @24framedavinci39 Год назад +5

    I hope it's woke so we all can call it Forwoken.

  • @me-A2B
    @me-A2B Год назад +1

    They will somehow turn this into "Gamers hate it just because she is black!"

  • @gate7clamp
    @gate7clamp Год назад +4

    Oh, they’ve given up on the western audience specially when they sold Crystal dynamics, and the other studios

    • @Mr_Mistah
      @Mr_Mistah Год назад +1

      And they'll probably sell Luminous Productions too if this game flops

  • @lewanosky6834
    @lewanosky6834 Год назад +1

    “I just move shit with my mind” give me 70 bucks

  • @Mesphisgrostoles
    @Mesphisgrostoles Год назад +3

    That's what happens when greedy companies take that ESG money.

    • @NormanReaddis
      @NormanReaddis Год назад +1

      Yeah turning a promising tech demo called Agni's Philosophy becomes a CRT FF called Forespoken.

  • @LokiTricksterG
    @LokiTricksterG Год назад +1

    It's funny, the reason I hate "woke" products often has nothing to do with politics - for example, that clip of Forsaken doesn't have anything political in it. No, the reason I hate woke products is because they are almost always poorly-written, derivative, unrealistic, and lacking any sort of intelligence. The style of writing in that Forsaken clip looks to be near-identical to the writing style found in She-Hulk and the latest Saints Row game.
    I grew up on black culture, and more specifically black comedies, thanks to my dad. His favorite show when I was a kid was In Living Color, and he would show us all the Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, and Wayans Bros stuff (back when the Wayans were still good.) The reason my dad loved black comedians so much is because they were brutally honest, authentic, and relatable to working class people like himself.
    Woke comedy is the exact opposite. There's not an ounce of honesty or authenticity anywhere to be found, and it caters solely to people who took social justice courses in college. It talks down to the working class, then tells them they are bad people for not liking it.

  • @DanielFanzwicky
    @DanielFanzwicky Год назад +3

    Square in 1997: Barret.
    Square in 2023: Fray.

  • @rokudan96
    @rokudan96 Год назад +2

    the desire to watch anime in the jungle with a sleeping lion is just a weeb away a weeb away a weeb away.

  • @erenjay1844
    @erenjay1844 Год назад +2

    Just want to point out quickly how much I'm enjoying all of these daily uploads. Its almost become part of my routine now 😂

  • @cuccooverlord9812
    @cuccooverlord9812 Год назад +1

    Leaks, horrible demo, cringey dialogue and one of the most baffling cameras made this a flop in advance. Reviews were the cherry on top.

  • @raylancarver7347
    @raylancarver7347 Год назад +3

    Maybe they knew the dialogue was bad, so they didn't show it. First time I've seen dialogue from this game.

  • @johnleonard9102
    @johnleonard9102 Год назад

    I never thought God of War Ragnarok would have a competitor for having "most annoying characters" this quick, but here we are about 3 months later.

  • @tasuki007
    @tasuki007 Год назад +3

    "Americans are weebs." Awesome quote. Lol!

  • @thenefariousbear4315
    @thenefariousbear4315 Год назад +1

    Thinking having a black woman as the main character and some tiktok dialogue then calling it a day will make people love this game,
    Maybe they are American

  • @paulconnett3654
    @paulconnett3654 Год назад +5

    I'm not a gamer but I do like Melonie Mac's content, great sense of humour with intelligence and decency. First saw this Lady on FNT. Plus the natural beauty is Gorgeous. and Ryan hates how Melonie's frozen camera shot still looks great... Cheer's 🇬🇧

  • @komradkolonel
    @komradkolonel Год назад +2

    The root of woke politics and virtue signaling is narcissism. When you look at it for what it is it reflects and exposes the narcissism of the person doing it. Games have become one long scolding lecture and targeted guilt trip for the gamers. That's the biggest reason why these games tank. It's not our fault that the out of touch developers just don't get it.

  • @presidentsnow7315
    @presidentsnow7315 Год назад +5

    To be honest, I liked the dialogue on the end of the automated voice. It was the dialogue on the end of the girl that I thought was annoying. It's almost like the automated voice was aware of how annoying she was acting.

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake Год назад +1

      She is pretty mean to the braclet she wears. He is getting Bearated by her often. Like it's pretty mean spirited. Am I supposed to like her!? Haha!

  • @gunsmithcat7542
    @gunsmithcat7542 Год назад +1

    Why would Borewoken being a flop be bad for Square Enix?
    It would send all the right signals to them, so that they can learn from this obvious mistake and make better games in the future.
    If it did not flop, we would just get more of this trash.

  • @Ricrayn
    @Ricrayn Год назад +3

    I remember this game was getting roasted earlier this year for the same reason. Months later still cringe inducing, still making me swear not to play or watch anyone else play it.

  • @andrewclear8905
    @andrewclear8905 Год назад +1

    Everytime SE "appeals" to a western audience, the game flops, even when some of those games are good. So, I do agree, they need to stick to what they are good at.

  • @Bandyman1975
    @Bandyman1975 Год назад +2

    What’s crazy to me is the talent behind this and it’s this

  • @jcarby23
    @jcarby23 Год назад +1

    It's funny how the game presents no woke concepts within the narrative (which is what a woke reviewer was complaining about in one of the articles Melanie showed) which disappoints them, then you have non-woke people assuming it's woke and complaining about it's non-existent wokeness. This game is getting hit hard on all fronts.