@@jeseniahernandez8795 1)Who are You labeling as "Faker" and why ? 2) What do You mean by "supporting" ? Looking forward to Your clarifications, Best regards.
Thanks for sharing all this Matt. I find picking disc detainer locks very fascinating and having one of your designs, The Silver Bullet in my arsenal is a game changer. Stay well and keep up the good work..
Thanks Matt. Most interesting. The range of attitudes of different lockmakers to vulnerability reports is unsurprising, but depressing. If you report a vulnerability that could bankrupt them, one would think that they would be very interested in learning from you, for the benefit of their business. I guess that it boils down to finding the right person to talk to. Find a bean counter, or an incompetent, and you'll likely get nowhere. Some spend too much time on navel gazing to be able to accept that their designs are flawed. Yet reality dictates otherwise.
47:00 I think lock manufacturers should send prototypes of their locks to well known pickers such as Matt Smith and LockPickingLawyer and pay them for a couple of weeks worth of work to try to figure out attacks against the lock and document all the attacks they tried. Even if the picker cannot find complete solution in that time, it would give the lock manufacturer valuable information about potential attack vectors. Design of mechanical locks is always a compromise between manufacturing tolerances, manufacturing costs, space factors and ability to be safe against (easy?) brute force attacks. The more complex you make the lock parts, the more powerfull a brute force attack will be because there will be smaller parts which will be easier to crush and force the lock open.
@@huxleypig69 Fair. I didn't think about that. are there any advantages within the lock itself to having discs of different materials? Also i'd gladly take that essay. I want to learn about this because i consider it interesting. I am studying locks to potentially become a locksmith.
@@expertoflizardcorrugation3967 Yeah, drill protection is a big one, for the discs themselves. Abloy use steel washers once or twice within a lock but I don't know why they do this. It is 0.4mm thin so drill protection for a washer sounds a bit silly.
I assume different materials are also used to control what wears out and make whole system having tens of locks using same (partial) keys work reliably for decades
Very informative. Thanks for sharing the fruits of your labor so freely. 👍
High praise, considering the source!
@@jeseniahernandez8795
1)Who are You labeling as "Faker" and why ?
2) What do You mean by "supporting" ?
Looking forward to Your clarifications,
Best regards.
@@jeseniahernandez8795 If it can be opened with a key, it can be opened with a pick.
potatosordfighter666 they are a troll
Thanks for sharing all this Matt. I find picking disc detainer locks very fascinating and having one of your designs, The Silver Bullet in my arsenal is a game changer. Stay well and keep up the good work..
Awesome :-) thanks for sharing this :-)
Thanks Matt. Most interesting. The range of attitudes of different lockmakers to vulnerability reports is unsurprising, but depressing. If you report a vulnerability that could bankrupt them, one would think that they would be very interested in learning from you, for the benefit of their business. I guess that it boils down to finding the right person to talk to. Find a bean counter, or an incompetent, and you'll likely get nowhere. Some spend too much time on navel gazing to be able to accept that their designs are flawed. Yet reality dictates otherwise.
I think I'm used to hearing these sorts of talk from "rowdier" crowds. Thanks for posting!
47:00 I think lock manufacturers should send prototypes of their locks to well known pickers such as Matt Smith and LockPickingLawyer and pay them for a couple of weeks worth of work to try to figure out attacks against the lock and document all the attacks they tried. Even if the picker cannot find complete solution in that time, it would give the lock manufacturer valuable information about potential attack vectors.
Design of mechanical locks is always a compromise between manufacturing tolerances, manufacturing costs, space factors and ability to be safe against (easy?) brute force attacks. The more complex you make the lock parts, the more powerfull a brute force attack will be because there will be smaller parts which will be easier to crush and force the lock open.
Interesting talk, haven't graduated to DD yet
Very nice, thank you.
Great talk, thanks for posting!
What was the name of that finnish criminal? I didn‘t quite get it and a quick google search didn‘t really help me either
Seppo Olavi Tervonen.
LOL Who remember bananadine from the Anarchist / Jollyrodger Cookbook?
Lol, that was it - bananadine! Doesn't work.
@@huxleypig69 I wish I still had my print copy from I believe 1978.
Even worse was the recipe for drying toad skins in the fridge to smoke that was in there... yuk...
first one lol , nice one Mat, hope your well mate.
Cheers mate, not bad. Family growing...Hope you are good too dude.
Thank you!
the number of times he says "like the key" gives me the idea that you may be meant to use the key XD
Why arent discs usually made of stronger material. is it for cost savings, or some mechanical reason that i cant think of
Sometimes they are, Baton use steel discs. I think it is because Abloy discs have quite complicated stampings and steel would be difficult to do.
@@huxleypig69 Fair. I didn't think about that. are there any advantages within the lock itself to having discs of different materials?
Also i'd gladly take that essay. I want to learn about this because i consider it interesting. I am studying locks to potentially become a locksmith.
@@expertoflizardcorrugation3967 Yeah, drill protection is a big one, for the discs themselves. Abloy use steel washers once or twice within a lock but I don't know why they do this. It is 0.4mm thin so drill protection for a washer sounds a bit silly.
@@huxleypig69 i thought of that, i just wasn't sure. but yea, those washers won't stop much.
I assume different materials are also used to control what wears out and make whole system having tens of locks using same (partial) keys work reliably for decades
What’s with the attitude toward Bosnian bill?
This was back when I wasn't too hot on him. I have spoken to him since this and he is a great bloke, I take it all back.
@@huxleypig69 Glad to hear that, I enjoy your videos keep up the good work, cheers
What was the deal with the comment about Bosnian Bill's vid ??
It was from the days when I didn't think much of Bill, or his methods.
@@huxleypig69 ah right I'm with ya cheers for the reply m8 keep the vids coming