SS CADCAM Inc. it sure was at Dresser. . I knew he went to Vancouver and , life goes on. Your last name is what twigged me and then I saw the resemblance . Very cool shop. Nice to see this kind of thing with multi generational machining. Made my day.
I’m pretty sure that holder with the blue ring is an adjustable balance holder. There should be a bunch of set screw in the holes under the blue cover. It’s for ultra high speed spindles in the 50,000 RPM and higher range. By moving the set screws in and out around the perimeter you can finely adjust the balance of the holder in the spindle. At those speeds balancing of the tool is critical as the spindle is often an air bearing system (physical contact bearings just burn up with the friction) . The spindle rides on a cushion of pressurized air between the inner shaft and outer bearing housing. An unbalanced tool can cause the inner spindle to hit then outer sleeve causing damage and nearly instantaneous seizing of the spindle. The tools are balanced off machine in a balancing machine and adjusted. It has to be a manual adjustment as every tool and collet is slightly different and affects the balance differently. And the faster it spins the greater effect an unbalanced tool has.
Thanks for that info. I always wondered how the balancing was done. It's nice to know that you don't just shove it in the machine and start slowly increasing the RPMs until you hear something wrong and then kinda guess which set screw you have to adjust.
what you said is mostly true but balancing is as important for spindles that run at 20000 rpm and even 15000 rpm having a really well balanced tool will give you better finishes and less chatter people just tend to ignore it because the spindle won't be damaged but if you are searching for better tool life and better surface finish balancing can help a lot
my nycnc times be changing and I love these kinda videos more than the ones with chips flying.... maybe because I wouldn't had the balls to start my machine shop this last year without these precious little youtube nuggets
I really like that he tracks the insert life down to hours and minutes, then changes the tool when the time limit is up! I can sure understand the temptation to go longer but self control says to just change it out. Good policy! Thanks for the vid! :)
Oh shit yeh!! I've been bugging you on insta to bug Amish to allow you to visit and bug him at his shop! Thanks Amish and John sweeeeeet shop that dmg is a beauty. Cheers James - fifty50 knives.
finding shop tours to be very informative and inspiring. Was formerly employed locally in local fabrication shop, all still located in Ottawa ON Canada.
I made stuff like that before CNC....3-Headed Bridgeport Mills with Hydraulic Controls to rough out three turbines at a time.. One pocket at a time.... Index and do it again. Then to the 3-D Pantographs to finish out the pocket.... They said we machined a pocket, and the blade was left. But they measured the blade at points layed out by scribe lines!. I feel safer flying today than I did then!
I worked on DMU 60, DMU 80 ,DMU 75 Monoblock, HSC 105 linear, problem with the glass is the chips are constantly hitting it and the glass gets in very bad shape during longer period of time. This can be prevented by applying glass protection from inside which will save you money. I run heidenhain on all machines except from HSC 105 linear which had siemens, and I can say get heidenhain if you can :) I hope that someone finds this useful.
He's a scaredy cat to index them so much. Good programming and tools will last years, in steel he should use air blast and they'll last longer. Gundrill oil is even better, impossible to melt a tool using gundrill oil. But it's over $10 a Litre
Funny he acts like his dad was crazy for some of the toolings he made and used. Sometimes you gotta improvise when you have deadlines to meet, especially if you working after hours and you live in an era when overnight mail was unheard of. lol
If your not familiar with barrel type cutters and the software designed to calculate the most effective tool path you could be missing out on an opportunity that might give one the most spectacular ruductions, often as much as 70% in some instances in the machining times of parts well suited to the barrel type cutting tools. An impeller is a perfect part to compare and see how much of a benefit barrel tools could be when compared to ball type cutting tools.
@@highstreetkillers4377 well i just did you a big favour then. Ive been using barrel end mills 3 years.Ive saved hundreds of thousand of euros. Check out" tool paths for 5Axis fully simeltainious machine tools using barrel end mills."Open Minds Hypamill soft ware is still the best.Fusion 360 offer it as upgrade if you use their Cad cam software. I have both only because ive been using Fusion for 20 years and got used to it. I've been using hypermill 4 years.
Wow, that was impresive! respect to this guy! Just out of curiosity, would be interesting to know the cost for that large almunium block. I guess it is pretty pricy, which leads me to a second question. When working with that large of a workpiece, is it common to start of by making a scaled down model, testing all the toolpaths so that a large workpiece dont go to waste. (*You mentioned that you started of on alumnium instead of steel when prototyping, but what about scaled down?) Are proffesional machinsts so confident on a new project that they can dig in to a large workpiece after just checking the simulation of the toolpaths?
thanks for awesome video. at 31 min I quite panicked looking at the drawers behind his back as they slide out. I know from my own experience and believe it's not what you wanted
John didn't want to go shooting, downhill mountain biking or snowboarding! Probably best he stayed within the safe boundaries of Vancouver his first time out.
@@Thebigsailor007 Also, a booth over (at the Mazak booth), they had a forklift burst into flame. It was an exciting teardown. As far as the Okuma, airbag valve didn't close properly or something, so the bag just kept chooching, and tipped a LB3000 (iirc) over. Dude almost got flattened. A wooden storage box saved his life. There's no space for jokes during installs or teardowns, stupid things can and do happen.
I love My dmg. I dream about getting a 5 axis dmg one day 😍 Pretty sure the aluminium is the same as I use. Its 5083 cast aluminium. Great to work with
Great tour! What are the reasons he isn’t using a zero point system to quickly change setups on the dmg? A crane next to the machine would be useful also.
Question to Amish: Is an ALU tryout representative for steel? If the ALU final product checks out right... Can you just add steel, adjust feeds/speeds, and expect the same result on steel as final product? Is DMG MORI just that good?
Any thoughts on switching from a sandvik 390 to a 790 for aluminum? I know the 790 is designed for aluminum but it doesn’t seem like it would be any different than a 390 with h13a or cd10 inserts. I think it even has the same recommended cutting parameters.
@SS CADCAM I would love to know what PowerMill is giving you that Fusion 360 lacks(just curious)? especially for those large impellers, and now that you have PowerMill do you see yourself fully phasing out Fusion?
PowerMill is amazing. Seen Fusion on RUclips and it looks like junk software. I use PowerMill to machine 50 ton blocks into car molds. I doubt you could machine a cars front bumper with fusion
Wow hours... lots of the material I am working in with the tolerance I have to machine the inserts last 26 min. Me I am like hmmm it made 21 minutes next process is 7 min long hmmm better change it now...
I need a boss like this. I'd be handed this job,told I have 14hrs to do it and get yelled at when it's not done in time. Guy spend a week on fixturing.
nice machine and setup, but I'm a little confused with why that face milling is done so slowly - mainly the tool path hopping over the part to get back and cut in only one direction??? with all of the money invested in tooling and machine, how can you stay in business?
This was done to have the chips fly back towards the machine away from the glass to minimize damage. Speeding it up and going both ways maybe would of saved me a few mins max.
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"Licensed To Mill" T-shirt.....very nice.
where to get?
So sure I worked with Amish’s father in Lethbridge, Alberta. 35 years ago. I’m still making chips
every day.
Kevin! How amazing! Was this at Dresser? I'd love to touch base with you.
SS CADCAM Inc. it sure was at Dresser. . I knew he went to Vancouver and , life goes on. Your last name
is what twigged me and then I saw the resemblance . Very cool shop. Nice to see this kind of thing with multi generational
machining. Made my day.
That is amazing!!!
You guys aren't talking about dresser crane by chance are you?
This is super inspiring to see as a one-man operation! Great video and awesome shop!
I’m pretty sure that holder with the blue ring is an adjustable balance holder.
There should be a bunch of set screw in the holes under the blue cover. It’s for ultra high speed spindles in the 50,000 RPM and higher range. By moving the set screws in and out around the perimeter you can finely adjust the balance of the holder in the spindle.
At those speeds balancing of the tool is critical as the spindle is often an air bearing system (physical contact bearings just burn up with the friction) . The spindle rides on a cushion of pressurized air between the inner shaft and outer bearing housing. An unbalanced tool can cause the inner spindle to hit then outer sleeve causing damage and nearly instantaneous seizing of the spindle.
The tools are balanced off machine in a balancing machine and adjusted. It has to be a manual adjustment as every tool and collet is slightly different and affects the balance differently. And the faster it spins the greater effect an unbalanced tool has.
Thanks for that info. I always wondered how the balancing was done. It's nice to know that you don't just shove it in the machine and start slowly increasing the RPMs until you hear something wrong and then kinda guess which set screw you have to adjust.
what you said is mostly true but balancing is as important for spindles that run at 20000 rpm and even 15000 rpm having a really well balanced tool will give you better finishes and less chatter people just tend to ignore it because the spindle won't be damaged but if you are searching for better tool life and better surface finish balancing can help a lot
It would be nice to revisit his shop in another 5 years to see where/how he grows.
my nycnc times be changing and I love these kinda videos more than the ones with chips flying.... maybe because I wouldn't had the balls to start my machine shop this last year without these precious little youtube nuggets
Good people bump onto good people. All the best for Amish and the team at SMW. 👍
Always love your tours, John. Amish seems like a great machinist and friend!
I really like that he tracks the insert life down to hours and minutes, then changes the tool when the time limit is up! I can sure understand the temptation to go longer but self control says to just change it out. Good policy!
Thanks for the vid! :)
The dmgs are awesome to use. My shop got 3 mono75's about a year ago with 3 more larger models coming this year. Really pumped.
Amish, dude, you’re super cool. If you’re ever in LA, come visit my humble shop!
Favorite video yet....I've followed Amish on Instagram and loved his content.....great to see his thoughts on machining
I loved this! Thanks for shooting. Amish seems really cool.
Follow up on how he gets fusion 360 to make that machine dance?
Running out of goats?
He said he used Powermill to program that part
@@ryanrhodebeck3925 i can optimize the rough with zig zag (hsm) put a round at the end of piece to prevent rapid movement i think i will do
You don't use crappy software to program that
@@highstreetkillers4377 catia mastercam featurecam fusion ... do you have a preference for software, if yes just let me know
Oh shit yeh!! I've been bugging you on insta to bug Amish to allow you to visit and bug him at his shop! Thanks Amish and John sweeeeeet shop that dmg is a beauty. Cheers James - fifty50 knives.
Had to come back to this after seeing him on the recent LTT video. Sure enough it was the same machine and guy 3 years later.
Nice outro: "thanks Amish for the Haaspatality"
@Ed Rees No?
Ed Rees i
Inspirational amish, would love to see you get on youtube for some milling expertise! Thanks for sharing
I always throw a lathe tool in my vise and relieve the tool back while it’s in the mill spinning.
the amount of knowledge needed and all the little parts makes me dizzy. I like that he's running all this from an 1800 sq ft shop awesome.
Awesome tour ! Always cool to see how other shops do work
finding shop tours to be very informative and inspiring.
Was formerly employed locally in local fabrication shop, all still located in Ottawa ON Canada.
I made stuff like that before CNC....3-Headed Bridgeport Mills with Hydraulic Controls to rough out three turbines at a time..
One pocket at a time.... Index and do it again.
Then to the 3-D Pantographs to finish out the pocket.... They said we machined a pocket, and the blade was left.
But they measured the blade at points layed out by scribe lines!.
I feel safer flying today than I did then!
Been watching your videos for years. Im Still learning Fusion 360. Good to see your channel grow and grow.
And if I'm quick. first comment!!!!!
I have to say I have learned the importance of parametric, really need to work on getting better at that in my drawings process
What an awesome guy and engineer 👍
The smile that guy makes on the picture for this video is the same exact smile pan handlers and beggars make when you accidentally make eye contact
I worked on DMU 60, DMU 80 ,DMU 75 Monoblock, HSC 105 linear, problem with the glass is the chips are constantly hitting it and the glass gets in very bad shape during longer period of time. This can be prevented by applying glass protection from inside which will save you money. I run heidenhain on all machines except from HSC 105 linear which had siemens, and I can say get heidenhain if you can :) I hope that someone finds this useful.
I made a aluminum protector for the glass when I run production.
Thanks for the tour! Vf7 is starting to get to a nice sized machine. :-)
Thank you for doing this shop visit
This guy is next level
Never would've thought that tools can last such a short while! No wonder machining is so expensive.
He's a scaredy cat to index them so much. Good programming and tools will last years, in steel he should use air blast and they'll last longer. Gundrill oil is even better, impossible to melt a tool using gundrill oil. But it's over $10 a Litre
The tools themselves do last years, I was thinking of the cutter inserts.
- What is this tool used for?
- For fun
！
I also have a friend like you.
Nice that u help your own people
Finally a new tour! I like it. Were you at EMO this year?
I don’t need to see this before pressing the thumbs up...
Funny he acts like his dad was crazy for some of the toolings he made and used. Sometimes you gotta improvise when you have deadlines to meet, especially if you working after hours and you live in an era when overnight mail was unheard of. lol
Very interesting guy, highly professional approach, any more than 3 axes and I am confused.
Thanks for sharing.
Fantastic shop so cool
I’ve heard you guys talk of Talk of this mysterious person but never knew his IG name. Thanks
Excellent video. Very impressive shop and machinery. Thanks for posting!
Brilliant insight thanks for letting us in.
Love the technical stuff
Love my space mouse i am lost without it as well
If your not familiar with barrel type cutters and the software designed to calculate the most effective tool path you could be missing out on an opportunity that might
give one the most spectacular ruductions, often as much as 70% in some instances in the machining times of parts well suited to the barrel type cutting tools. An impeller is a perfect part
to compare and see how much of a benefit barrel tools could be when compared to ball type cutting tools.
Don't know what a barrel too is, but 3d machining you have to use a ballnose
@@highstreetkillers4377 well i just did you a big favour then. Ive been using barrel end mills 3 years.Ive saved
hundreds of thousand of euros.
Check out" tool paths for 5Axis fully simeltainious
machine tools using barrel
end mills."Open Minds Hypamill soft ware is still the best.Fusion 360 offer it as upgrade if you use their
Cad cam software.
I have both only because ive been using Fusion for
20 years and got used to it.
I've been using hypermill 4 years.
This is my dream business. Just don't know where to start. Such a nice shop.
At the beginning with 1 manual mill
beautiful shop Amish!!
Enjoyed John!
ATB, Robin
I would have realy loved to see his dad! ;-)
Awesome
Goid luck !^^
Wow, that was impresive! respect to this guy! Just out of curiosity, would be interesting to know the cost for that large almunium block. I guess it is pretty pricy, which leads me to a second question. When working with that large of a workpiece, is it common to start of by making a scaled down model, testing all the toolpaths so that a large workpiece dont go to waste. (*You mentioned that you started of on alumnium instead of steel when prototyping, but what about scaled down?) Are proffesional machinsts so confident on a new project that they can dig in to a large workpiece after just checking the simulation of the toolpaths?
I heard Helical Solutions is in the middle of building a new facility. You should definitely redo the tour in around a year or so!
Every time somebody says “you know that mike Bloomberg had a point” this is one of the videos I send them 🤣
I works on DMU 85 this is a crazy CNC i love works whith :)
I really enjoyed this one, thanks!
Awesome stuff ...
Nice T-shirt
thanks for awesome video.
at 31 min I quite panicked looking at the drawers behind his back as they slide out.
I know from my own experience and believe it's not what you wanted
Did you have time to see AvE?
John didn't want to go shooting, downhill mountain biking or snowboarding! Probably best he stayed within the safe boundaries of Vancouver his first time out.
Lmao... It takes a bit as an American to adjust to the great beauty that is canuckistan....
@@arduinoversusevil2025 LOL
What is the story with the Matsuura falling over?
I really wanted to know the same
Do tell!
There was an Okuma that fell over due to an airbag failing at the teardown of IMTS last year. Don't know of a tipping Matsuura
@@Thebigsailor007 Also, a booth over (at the Mazak booth), they had a forklift burst into flame. It was an exciting teardown.
As far as the Okuma, airbag valve didn't close properly or something, so the bag just kept chooching, and tipped a LB3000 (iirc) over. Dude almost got flattened. A wooden storage box saved his life. There's no space for jokes during installs or teardowns, stupid things can and do happen.
@@orangedream267 I was in the Makino booth when that happened.
Awsome gents, thankyou for the Vid!
@48.57 that tool is possibly for the dmg ultrasonic machine.
Cool video! Amazing machines👍
Ed @4:21 being Ed...just downing some coffee.
Who said it's coffee? ;)
@@sscadcam I figured I'd keep it PG
@Ed Rees don't drink the coolant 🤣
Amazing! Loved this vid!
it is like sci-fi film
I love My dmg. I dream about getting a 5 axis dmg one day 😍
Pretty sure the aluminium is the same as I use. Its 5083 cast aluminium. Great to work with
Finally good see canadian flag
Great tour!
What are the reasons he isn’t using a zero point system to quickly change setups on the dmg? A crane next to the machine would be useful also.
That's coming shortly!
at the meeting point, the guy's face was as of a cat in the cellar full with whipped cream jars
You think that Vertical Mill is huge you should come to our shop and check out our Vertical Monarch and our Horizontal Mitsubishi.
Wow! 100 inches a minute on a tool that sticks out that far? I haven't cut aluminium in years, but I still can't see how that's done.
this t shirt is awesome :)
imagine having a dmu50 in garage or ur cellar
BC... smart guy .. has brain and hands and head screwed on correct.. (y) More of his type pls. Greets from Dinmarc EU
great vid mate, thank you, very inspiring, followed :)
Question to Amish: Is an ALU tryout representative for steel?
If the ALU final product checks out right...
Can you just add steel, adjust feeds/speeds, and expect the same result on steel as final product? Is DMG MORI just that good?
Awesome vid!
quade and curtis stil love u soo much please reply to show them love back thnx happy thanksgiving
they say ur cycle time cant b beat john is it true
Awesome
Any thoughts on switching from a sandvik 390 to a 790 for aluminum? I know the 790 is designed for aluminum but it doesn’t seem like it would be any different than a 390 with h13a or cd10 inserts. I think it even has the same recommended cutting parameters.
Wicked
@SS CADCAM I would love to know what PowerMill is giving you that Fusion 360 lacks(just curious)? especially for those large impellers, and now that you have PowerMill do you see yourself fully phasing out Fusion?
PowerMill is amazing. Seen Fusion on RUclips and it looks like junk software. I use PowerMill to machine 50 ton blocks into car molds. I doubt you could machine a cars front bumper with fusion
Haaspitality* cool shop :)
I like it
nice shop
Need to start using kennametal products to increase run time on tools
How many hours on the machine did the steel impeller take?
May be a stupid question BUT - How to do you guys do the keyway? Is it done on a 5axis for is broached the old way?
What type of yearly income would a one man shop like this expect to generate with a nice 5 axis machine?
How much did that alu cube weigh wen starting? How much does the actual steel cube weigh, please?
i see a rittal sk33045xx , i make those a work :D
Why you considered more DMG Mori instead other like Mazak, Makino, Okuma and etc?
I'm pretty sure those planes are 757s.
You need to get an Overhead Crane.
Wow hours... lots of the material I am working in with the tolerance I have to machine the inserts last 26 min. Me I am like hmmm it made 21 minutes next process is 7 min long hmmm better change it now...
I need a boss like this. I'd be handed this job,told I have 14hrs to do it and get yelled at when it's not done in time. Guy spend a week on fixturing.
Hi ! Is this a 1 man shop or there are other people working there too ?
i like to watch this, but not using metric system is killing me a bit
That dude is driven
nice machine and setup, but I'm a little confused with why that face milling is done so slowly - mainly the tool path hopping over the part to get back and cut in only one direction??? with all of the money invested in tooling and machine, how can you stay in business?
He makes one-off parts, not production. You don't have the time to spend on optimization. And you have to be more cautious since it's the first time.
This was done to have the chips fly back towards the machine away from the glass to minimize damage. Speeding it up and going both ways maybe would of saved me a few mins max.