@@Populiervogel Ik lees o.a. spoorbreedte. En een tram rijdt in de straat. En een metro op een eigen spoor. Ja ja. Internet is zo leerzaam. Aarde is plat en vliegtuigen vliegen op geperste lucht. Leerzaam leerzaam leerzaam.
Until yesterday, all those passengers were going by bus - buses with two bends in them, 25 meters long (regular single-bend bendy buses are 18m), at peak times one every few minutes.
Utrecht has a huge problem with student housing. Zeist has a very ugly but big L-flat (easily big enough to house 2000 students). This L-flat is 2-3 km from the Science park along the A28 but public transport between the 2 is a nightmare. Same goes for the Warande which has 800 student rooms. I can't understand why they didn't extend the line 2-3 km to the Utrechtseweg in Zeist along the A28. There's plenty of space for it. If the track would bend east after the Maxima-stop and ends at the Utrechtseweg they would have only needed 500m of extra track and would have made a major connection between Zeist, Utrecht and the Uithof. They wouldn't have had to cross a single road or demolish a single house to achieve this.
I totally get you. Zeist had a tram connection last century. There were plans to extend the uithofline via the Zeist-west, which does not make sense at all, but was cancelled due to high costs. Your proposal makes more sense especially after they got rid off the bus station corner Dreef/Utrechtseweg a couple of years ago. I grew up in Zeist and lived and studied in various European countries. Dutch way of governing is short-term thinking and constantly reinventing the wheel. No wonder that the costs of the current line rose well above the calculated budget, despite the track being mostly build around the city. The province of Utrecht and the cities of Utrecht and Zeist want to reduce the use of cars and co2 emission, but at the same time they reduce public transport. When a project is in the making, some new studies always appear with newer solutions and so called better software. Instead of cooperating with other cities and sharing information, the Dutch always know it better and at the end it all costs more and takes longer to build. Zeist is a beautiful green city, with so many opportunities like your idea with Vollenhove. I bet money on it that in 20 years from now, the line will look different with new routes in Utrecht (not to Zeist) or reduced stations and they wonder why people move out of Zeist and why the inhabitants don't use public transport.
@@hendrikjanverheijen4329 Nou vergeet de L flat dan (al wonen er genoeg mensen in die dagelijks op de Uithof moeten zijn). Elke dag fietsen duizenden mensen uit Zeist naar de Uithof. Duizenden andere gaan met de auto of het zeer inefficiënte OV wat nu tussen Zeist en de Uithof gaat. Met een halte bij de Utrechtseweg naast de A28-tunnel zou je van 20-30 minuten OV naar 5 minuten OV gaan. En er is ruimte genoeg om de trams een rondje te laten rijden. Ze zullen de grote nieuwe parkeergarages wel niet leeg willen zien staan bij het ziekenhuis (€1.80/u) etc. "Fietsers moeten ruim baan krijgen op de Bisschopsweg in Zeist. Drie milieuorganisaties pleiten er in een brief aan de Zeister gemeenteraad voor om de Bisschopsweg autoluw te maken, waardoor deze veiliger en dus aantrekkelijker wordt voor fietsers die pendelen tussen Zeist en Utrecht Science Park (Uithof). Er wordt al heel lang gesproken over een snelle en veilige fietsverbinding tussen Zeist en het Utrecht Science Park (USP). Duizenden fietsers rijden dagelijks deze route. Sinds 2005 is er al sprake van de aanleg van een snelfietsroute tussen Zeist-West en USP. Die route zou het landgoed Oostbroek doorkruisen. Begin dit jaar ging er definitief een streep door de plannen. Jan Dankbaar 06-12-19, 19:56" www.ad.nl/utrecht/oproep-milieuclubs-fietser-moet-ruim-baan-krijgen-op-bisschopsweg~ae49a75c/
@@Cl0ckcl0ck dat is het probleem, het landgoed Oostbroek. Het is waarschijnlijk niet toegestaan om daar wat doorheen te leggen. Met de verbreding van de A27 werd er bij Amelisweerd ook al zo verschrikkelijk moeilijk gedaan.
@@antonievanbruchem4540 Ja, maar voor die verbreding bij Amelisweerd moesten een boel bomen gekapt worden (om plek te maken voor meer autos). Langs Oostbroek langs de A28 ligt al een 20 meter brede grasstrook waar met gemak 2 tram-lijntjes in kunnen. En de vermindering van het autoverkeer tussen Zeist, de Uithof en Utrecht zou heel flink zijn.
He he.. EINDELIJK.. gefeliciteerd Utrecht. Ik woon er al 18 jaar niet meer, maar toen was het al lang wachten en dringen in de volle bussen naar de Uithof. Het is jullie van harte gegund!
Toen ik dertig jaar geleden daar ging studeren werd er al over die lijn gebakkeleid in de gemeenteraad. Nu is hij er eindelijk. Gefeliciteerd Utrecht! Een mooie aanwinst voor de stad.
@@tsaszymborska7389 God bereid Om op mijn volgende reís te wachten Om het land van de grote Marco Van Basten te leren kennen. Utrech voor iedereen. Nederlandse honderd procent 🇳🇱 💖 ✔️ 🥇 🏆 🏆
Nice. If only we had clean smooth cycle paths alongside our various rail lines in Dublin it would alleviate a lot of the traffic problems. A lot of people would be only too happy to take to 2 wheels if they could travel into the city without having to risking their lives to do so.
So quiet and smooth. The NL is very advanced in transit and safe biking. The USA is way behind and biking is very dangerous very scary. No separation from cars.
The US needs to focus on improving the infrastructure and come up with new innovative infrastructure for cars, bikes and pedestrians and keep the car centered city blocks out of the picture, If America wants to evolve in a similar comparison of the Dutch Infrastructure, then people have to get used to these radical changes. America by itself is a car centered society, so changing the mindset could be difficult and could take some years or even decades. The way the Dutch infrastructure is set is to come up with efficient space for all types of transport and pedestrians and housing, and perhaps in the future we will see housing projects with retail and offices all in one.
Electric mass transit, E bicycles, E scooters and walking make cities better. All train stops need to have places to lock or store bicycles. Cities around the world need to become more bicycle and mass transit friendly.
mass transit is yes..but not on the same traffic system of other motor vehicles. bicycle depends on climate and weather. in hot and humid countries.. bicycle just a comfort of recreations.
The old section to Nieuwegein is “sneltram”, and on most of the route the track is separate from the rest of the street. Trams drive on the street (see Amsterdam), trains run on separate roadbeds and any crossings are guarded by lights and poles, and light rail like this mostly runs separately from traffic but it has level crossings where necessary (although they’re all traffic lighted, I believe, at least on this tram)
what i've resarched so far COSTS Approximately € 427 million will be needed to realise the Uithoflijn, including the cost of the trams. This includes a contribution to the extension and updating of the depot and the construction of the Dichtersbaan bus lane. More than € 100 million of the total cost will be funded by central government
Can't tell if this was already addressed but am curious to see the pedestrian connection between this tram - and others - and the inter-city and regional trains. Ideally it would be really short, but inside the station there should be a bakery or droppie / dropwinkel etc on the way from the inter-city train to the tram (to home....) :-)
In the big hall of Utrecht central Station there are all kinds of shops, from a tiny supermarket to a bakery to a bar and even a lingerie shop. From this hall you can access all the platforms for busses, trams and trains.
@@antonievanbruchem4540 - Right. I should have been clear that I am familiar with the best of European train station hubs, but know that cynicism gets easily bolstered in a place like Berlin Hbf, where one has to cross multiple levels to go from the north-south to east-west tracks, and where the need to collect money from rent was perhaps too much of a priority. So really my question was how long it takes to get from the trams to the trains, when you're in a rush!
There you are, trams made in Spain, no job in your own country. WTF, are people that stupid not to make their own trams? How did they manage making trams back 60 years ago that now they rely on another country to make trams? Crazy.
@@mickcarson8504 Netherlands is a country of 17 million people. Why should we make everything ourselves if other countries are more specialized in it ? We don't make cars, nor do we make Space Shuttles. However we make much more important things like good beer for example.. ;)
@@ronnie9187 Jobs, man, jobs. If that country was a skilled country and more advanced, they can make anything, just like they can make steam trains. Example, Germany. Germany made everything by themselves, from army tanks to U-boats in the 30-40s. They did not depend on other countries before and during WW2. That's an example.
Daar rijden trams van 37 jaar op, die zijn gewoon op en daarom staan ze zo vaak stil. Proefbedrijf van de Uithoflijn was bijna probleemloos. Enkele storing kan voorkomen. En structureel opgelost worden.
@@gerwin030 vorige week was de bovenleiding stuk getrokken dus dat had niks te maken met de ouderdom vd tramstellen (wat overigens wel een punt is maarja, het geld is nu wel op denk ik). Maar mijn punt is dat het opheffen van lijn 12 niet slim is want een tramlijn is altijd kwetsbaar voor stremmingen. Een aanrijding met een auto of fietser zet urenlang al het tramverkeer op die lijn stil
@@marks.6480 Dan zet je een stapel bussen ergens opzij die je snel kan inzetten. Wat ze ook doen. Daar hoef je geen paralelle buslijn voor te laten lopen.
Tegenwoordig gebeurt het regelmatig (eigenlijk te vaak) dat er storingen zijn. Ligt niet altijd aan de trams (er gebeuren helaas ook aanrijdingen en wkaselstoringen enzo) maar toch heb ik het idee dat de CAF trams minder betrouwbaar zijn dan de oude SIG trams..
Well, for that we don't live in a desert where forest burns every year, and we have the most fertile soil land where everything grows very well. Next and that is even much more important! our pubs are 100x more cozy and our beer much better then in the south ;)
@@ronnie9187 i was being ironic... But you said right... your BEER can be good, but my country has better wine -_- AND NOTHING YOU SAY WILL CHANGE MY MIND
But that large gap between the two connecting trains are really dangerous. So many people that has slipped and fell between and got run over by the tram in Norway. You dont survive that
Why would you even walk there, or try to cross there? There are even danger and no crossing signs put up on the connections between the tram. Plus these are low floor trams, so less difference betwen strretlevel and the platforms in contrary to metro's and trains.
Major fail how those ticket machines rarely, if ever, accept credit cards; especially from tourists. The Netherlands looks so advanced on the surface but they're still 60 years in the past.
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Sorry guys. No more bicycles. From now on it will be TramDutch.
*TramDutch
@@Populiervogel Gecorrigeerd. Wat is het verschil tussen metro en tram trouwens? Zoeken we op)
@@driewiel Onder de grond, boven de grond? Ja dat is een goeie, zoeken we op. 😊
@@Populiervogel Ik lees o.a. spoorbreedte. En een tram rijdt in de straat. En een metro op een eigen spoor. Ja ja. Internet is zo leerzaam. Aarde is plat en vliegtuigen vliegen op geperste lucht. Leerzaam leerzaam leerzaam.
@@driewiel Klopt, las ik ook, Google is my best friend.
Tram for a million passengers?! Fabulous. Smooth.
Until yesterday, all those passengers were going by bus - buses with two bends in them, 25 meters long (regular single-bend bendy buses are 18m), at peak times one every few minutes.
@Aryan R on average 34,000 passengers per day (pre covid).
2:01 is that a DJ? A DJ at a tram station?
Utrecht has a huge problem with student housing. Zeist has a very ugly but big L-flat (easily big enough to house 2000 students). This L-flat is 2-3 km from the Science park along the A28 but public transport between the 2 is a nightmare. Same goes for the Warande which has 800 student rooms. I can't understand why they didn't extend the line 2-3 km to the Utrechtseweg in Zeist along the A28. There's plenty of space for it. If the track would bend east after the Maxima-stop and ends at the Utrechtseweg they would have only needed 500m of extra track and would have made a major connection between Zeist, Utrecht and the Uithof. They wouldn't have had to cross a single road or demolish a single house to achieve this.
I totally get you. Zeist had a tram connection last century. There were plans to extend the uithofline via the Zeist-west, which does not make sense at all, but was cancelled due to high costs. Your proposal makes more sense especially after they got rid off the bus station corner Dreef/Utrechtseweg a couple of years ago. I grew up in Zeist and lived and studied in various European countries. Dutch way of governing is short-term thinking and constantly reinventing the wheel. No wonder that the costs of the current line rose well above the calculated budget, despite the track being mostly build around the city. The province of Utrecht and the cities of Utrecht and Zeist want to reduce the use of cars and co2 emission, but at the same time they reduce public transport. When a project is in the making, some new studies always appear with newer solutions and so called better software. Instead of cooperating with other cities and sharing information, the Dutch always know it better and at the end it all costs more and takes longer to build. Zeist is a beautiful green city, with so many opportunities like your idea with Vollenhove. I bet money on it that in 20 years from now, the line will look different with new routes in Utrecht (not to Zeist) or reduced stations and they wonder why people move out of Zeist and why the inhabitants don't use public transport.
Misschien omdat de L flat geen studentenhuisvesting is?
@@hendrikjanverheijen4329 Nou vergeet de L flat dan (al wonen er genoeg mensen in die dagelijks op de Uithof moeten zijn). Elke dag fietsen duizenden mensen uit Zeist naar de Uithof. Duizenden andere gaan met de auto of het zeer inefficiënte OV wat nu tussen Zeist en de Uithof gaat. Met een halte bij de Utrechtseweg naast de A28-tunnel zou je van 20-30 minuten OV naar 5 minuten OV gaan. En er is ruimte genoeg om de trams een rondje te laten rijden. Ze zullen de grote nieuwe parkeergarages wel niet leeg willen zien staan bij het ziekenhuis (€1.80/u) etc.
"Fietsers moeten ruim baan krijgen op de Bisschopsweg in Zeist. Drie milieuorganisaties pleiten er in een brief aan de Zeister gemeenteraad voor om de Bisschopsweg autoluw te maken, waardoor deze veiliger en dus aantrekkelijker wordt voor fietsers die pendelen tussen Zeist en Utrecht Science Park (Uithof).
Er wordt al heel lang gesproken over een snelle en veilige fietsverbinding tussen Zeist en het Utrecht Science Park (USP). Duizenden fietsers rijden dagelijks deze route. Sinds 2005 is er al sprake van de aanleg van een snelfietsroute tussen Zeist-West en USP. Die route zou het landgoed Oostbroek doorkruisen. Begin dit jaar ging er definitief een streep door de plannen.
Jan Dankbaar 06-12-19, 19:56"
www.ad.nl/utrecht/oproep-milieuclubs-fietser-moet-ruim-baan-krijgen-op-bisschopsweg~ae49a75c/
@@Cl0ckcl0ck dat is het probleem, het landgoed Oostbroek. Het is waarschijnlijk niet toegestaan om daar wat doorheen te leggen. Met de verbreding van de A27 werd er bij Amelisweerd ook al zo verschrikkelijk moeilijk gedaan.
@@antonievanbruchem4540 Ja, maar voor die verbreding bij Amelisweerd moesten een boel bomen gekapt worden (om plek te maken voor meer autos). Langs Oostbroek langs de A28 ligt al een 20 meter brede grasstrook waar met gemak 2 tram-lijntjes in kunnen. En de vermindering van het autoverkeer tussen Zeist, de Uithof en Utrecht zou heel flink zijn.
Wow, I wished we had a tram/light rail like that in my country! It looks very fast.
CocoAnana we now have the exact same model in 🇲🇺 Mauritius island
He he.. EINDELIJK.. gefeliciteerd Utrecht. Ik woon er al 18 jaar niet meer, maar toen was het al lang wachten en dringen in de volle bussen naar de Uithof. Het is jullie van harte gegund!
Gefeliciteerd Utrech, tram fabulous. Nederlandse honderd procent 🇳🇱
Toen ik dertig jaar geleden daar ging studeren werd er al over die lijn gebakkeleid in de gemeenteraad. Nu is hij er eindelijk. Gefeliciteerd Utrecht! Een mooie aanwinst voor de stad.
@@tsaszymborska7389 God bereid Om op mijn volgende reís te wachten Om het land van de grote Marco Van Basten te leren kennen. Utrech voor iedereen. Nederlandse honderd procent 🇳🇱 💖 ✔️ 🥇 🏆 🏆
Nice. If only we had clean smooth cycle paths alongside our various rail lines in Dublin it would alleviate a lot of the traffic problems. A lot of people would be only too happy to take to 2 wheels if they could travel into the city without having to risking their lives to do so.
I love Utrecht ♥️♥️♥️♥️🙏🙏🙏🙏naar uithof met tram, so cool.
Whe love it !!!! 💪
So quiet and smooth. The NL is very advanced in transit and safe biking. The USA is way behind and biking is very dangerous very scary. No separation from cars.
The USA have the focus on planet Mars, instead of improving the conditions on planet Earth, like First World infrastructure...
America has really bad infrastructure
The US needs to focus on improving the infrastructure and come up with new innovative infrastructure for cars, bikes and pedestrians and keep the car centered city blocks out of the picture, If America wants to evolve in a similar comparison of the Dutch Infrastructure, then people have to get used to these radical changes.
America by itself is a car centered society, so changing the mindset could be difficult and could take some years or even decades.
The way the Dutch infrastructure is set is to come up with efficient space for all types of transport and pedestrians and housing, and perhaps in the future we will see housing projects with retail and offices all in one.
@I HATE TOUCANS I don't, i live in The Netherlands, i just observe what's happening there..
In NL you have to pay for health insurance.
Electric mass transit, E bicycles, E scooters and walking make cities better.
All train stops need to have places to lock or store bicycles.
Cities around the world need to become more bicycle and mass transit friendly.
mass transit is yes..but not on the same traffic system of other motor vehicles. bicycle depends on climate and weather. in hot and humid countries.. bicycle just a comfort of recreations.
Que exemplo!!!
It is like a ligth train, isn't it?
The old section to Nieuwegein is “sneltram”, and on most of the route the track is separate from the rest of the street.
Trams drive on the street (see Amsterdam), trains run on separate roadbeds and any crossings are guarded by lights and poles, and light rail like this mostly runs separately from traffic but it has level crossings where necessary (although they’re all traffic lighted, I believe, at least on this tram)
congrats how long from start to finish and how much?? maybe our people will learn from you guys
About 40 years
D about 13 Years more than 100,000,- €’s
what i've resarched so far COSTS
Approximately € 427 million will be needed to realise the Uithoflijn, including the cost of the trams.
This includes a contribution to the extension and
updating of the depot and the construction of the
Dichtersbaan bus lane. More than € 100 million of
the total cost will be funded by central government
This are new trams?
*Nice Video,thank you.*
Het beste OV systeem is nog altijd de tram, gefeliciteerd!!!! Utrecht!
Can't tell if this was already addressed but am curious to see the pedestrian connection between this tram - and others - and the inter-city and regional trains.
Ideally it would be really short, but inside the station there should be a bakery or droppie / dropwinkel etc on the way from the inter-city train to the tram (to home....) :-)
In the big hall of Utrecht central Station there are all kinds of shops, from a tiny supermarket to a bakery to a bar and even a lingerie shop. From this hall you can access all the platforms for busses, trams and trains.
@@antonievanbruchem4540 - Right. I should have been clear that I am familiar with the best of European train station hubs, but know that cynicism gets easily bolstered in a place like Berlin Hbf, where one has to cross multiple levels to go from the north-south to east-west tracks, and where the need to collect money from rent was perhaps too much of a priority.
So really my question was how long it takes to get from the trams to the trains, when you're in a rush!
@@TheObimara it depends on which track you have to be (there are 21 of them), but it's between 2 and 4 minutes I think.
@@TheObimara 30 seconds to reach the inside of the central station. Depending which platform you need to be you could be on your train within a minutr
How long is the ride from Centraal to Uithof?
17 minutes.
64.375 euros per meter, one of the most expensive tram lines in the world.
Ach jochie, volgend jaar is hij record weer kwijt, zo gaat dat.
Je schijnt korting te krijgen als je per KM besteld!
It looks like it could be the same model as the new light rail that just started in Sydney.
Gefeliciteerd Utrecht met deze prachtige nieuwe tramlijn. JP de Vos Den Haag.
Those trams look like they were made in Spain...
they were, they're CAF's
Blackwood Richmore they are
There you are, trams made in Spain, no job in your own country. WTF, are people that stupid not to make their own trams? How did they manage making trams back 60 years ago that now they rely on another country to make trams? Crazy.
@@mickcarson8504 Netherlands is a country of 17 million people. Why should we make everything ourselves if other countries are more specialized in it ? We don't make cars, nor do we make Space Shuttles. However we make much more important things like good beer for example.. ;)
@@ronnie9187
Jobs, man, jobs. If that country was a skilled country and more advanced, they can make anything, just like they can make steam trains. Example, Germany. Germany made everything by themselves, from army tanks to U-boats in the 30-40s. They did not depend on other countries before and during WW2. That's an example.
Imagine a tramrailway going from Noord-Holland to Utrecht! Welp it came true
Mooie footage van de Uithoflijn👍
Very good video!!👍👍📹🚋🚊
Très bien et bonne continuation
I can't find it on Google maps
You should file a complaint with Google then.
Mag de fiets mee op de tram?
Als je hem in een zak doet en zegt dat het helicopteronderdelen zijn, dan wel.
Nope. 03:19
Ik wil graag een rondje in Utrecht centrum. ...gelukkig kerstdagen 🎅🌲
Great video 👍
Dit type rijdt ook in Budapest, zie ik ongeveer dagelijks.
Ga nou niet vuilnisbelt oost europa met het welvarende Nederland vergelijken.
Met je budapest, grapjas.
@@dennischapel341 ruclips.net/video/6iE0bl9vaKU/видео.html
Dennis Chapel alsof ze in oost Europa geen nieuwe trams kunnen aanschaffen.
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sad my country doesn't like public transport
chromebomb Most of our country doesn’t to
So nice
Mooi nu nog een metro stelsel in utrecht aanleggen om een stevig netwerk te vormen in de randstad
ik begrijp dat buslijn 12 al is opgeheven. daar gaan ze heel erg spijt van krijgen! vorige week lag de tram naar Nieuwegein de hele dag plat
Daar rijden trams van 37 jaar op, die zijn gewoon op en daarom staan ze zo vaak stil. Proefbedrijf van de Uithoflijn was bijna probleemloos. Enkele storing kan voorkomen. En structureel opgelost worden.
@@gerwin030 vorige week was de bovenleiding stuk getrokken dus dat had niks te maken met de ouderdom vd tramstellen (wat overigens wel een punt is maarja, het geld is nu wel op denk ik). Maar mijn punt is dat het opheffen van lijn 12 niet slim is want een tramlijn is altijd kwetsbaar voor stremmingen. Een aanrijding met een auto of fietser zet urenlang al het tramverkeer op die lijn stil
@@marks.6480 Dan zet je een stapel bussen ergens opzij die je snel kan inzetten. Wat ze ook doen. Daar hoef je geen paralelle buslijn voor te laten lopen.
Tegenwoordig gebeurt het regelmatig (eigenlijk te vaak) dat er storingen zijn. Ligt niet altijd aan de trams (er gebeuren helaas ook aanrijdingen en wkaselstoringen enzo) maar toch heb ik het idee dat de CAF trams minder betrouwbaar zijn dan de oude SIG trams..
I hope this is also going to happen in regio brainport eindhoven-helmond
Me too
It had to be raining... GOD DAMN IT DUTCH
Well, for that we don't live in a desert where forest burns every year, and we have the most fertile soil land where everything grows very well. Next and that is even much more important! our pubs are 100x more cozy and our beer much better then in the south ;)
@@ronnie9187 i was being ironic... But you said right... your BEER can be good, but my country has better wine -_- AND NOTHING YOU SAY WILL CHANGE MY MIND
Toen we nog bewegingsvrijheid hadden.
BICYCLEdutch: TrAm-oPEniNg
Mooie.tram.Dutch
Baguss banget .
Hmmmm nice , i’m visiting utrecht in a couple of days
It reminds me of ambuchannel
شوف قطارات مصر😉😉😉
like!
Ofcourse it's not free
Rocc Pro It was
But that large gap between the two connecting trains are really dangerous. So many people that has slipped and fell between and got run over by the tram in Norway. You dont survive that
Why would you even walk there, or try to cross there?
There are even danger and no crossing signs put up on the connections between the tram.
Plus these are low floor trams, so less difference betwen strretlevel and the platforms in contrary to metro's and trains.
@@OpenbaarVervoer2D they are not walking between the trains, but walked on the platform and slipped on ice.
arme fietsers pak die tram dan!!!
Gefeliciteerd 🥳 Utrecht. Prachtig tram. Groetjes ruclips.net/video/enSNpLHVW6w/видео.html
Major fail how those ticket machines rarely, if ever, accept credit cards; especially from tourists. The Netherlands looks so advanced on the surface but they're still 60 years in the past.
I hope This stupid tram will be Destroyed ugly tram I want the old tram and the trains on Amersfoort-Utrecht
How mouch money?!
We don't want pay no more euro for Netherlands scam
You don't need to pay. Walking is free !
Lol where are you from? How do you pay for the Netherlands?