I've dug pretty deep into this thing over the past few weeks. Was ready to pull the plug on the whole thing. After uploading this vid and seeing all the interest and support I think I have to get this back on the road now
I knew these trucks fairly well in the late 90's, I used to do contract maintenance for Sunfresh Inc for the stuff their guys couldn't do. I put the 5th wheel ramps on all 4 trucks they had, recognized the ramps in a second. The trucks came from a Sugar Company in Hawaii originally and were beat to death when they got here to be used as field trucks only and were hauled from field to field. Sunfresh also had a good sized fleet of M123 10 ton military tractors for the same job which was loading semi-trailers under a harvester. Also recognized the top radiator tank being steel, the aluminum tank was so badly corroded it couldn't be repaired but my radiator guy found a Mexican company that reproduced them in steel, so yes I put that radiator in that truck. Sunfresh folded in '04-'05 and the last story I heard about the Autocars was that one of their mechanics fired one accidentally without oil and seized the engine, they have to have air pressure to shut down and he let it run until it had air pressure not knowing about the stop shaft on the governor. Hope this isn't that truck. I could go on but I'm done for now.
This one was bought from a farmer in BC and he used it a bit so I know it ran when her bought it. It didn't work well for their operation so they quit using it. It's too bad all these places it's been to go out of business. I'm trying to track down the full vin for it because I'm missing a couple digits on the tag. Once I get that I'm hoping I can find someone helpful at Autocar or something that can track down an original build sheet
I saw this truck when it was in BC. It came out of Washington State where it was a Heavy Hual tractor at the Hanford Reservation thats where they store old Submarine Nuclear Reactors. It has 56,000 pound rear axles right tank is hydraulic it has one fuel tank because it never went very ffar Best of luck
@@thebadlandschronicles19You may want to check the Pennsylvania area for a good cab and butterfly hood assembly, Ardmore Pennsylvania was the home of the old Autocar plant but I know there is a bunch of Autocar stuff there.
Yep. Can confirm that is the air starter tank on the side. Had a GMC General with that exact same setup. Cat in a blender. The hose and fittings are EXPENSIVE.
I worked at a used truck dealer from 89 till 2006 and saw a lot of old prime movers. Most of them military. Almost all of the really big ones were Cummins V12’s with air start. After they went to the second owner, most of the Cummins motors blew up from improper maintenance. Because it cost four times what it did a six cylinder to just service the motors. They were really unreliable. If they were re-powered they were usually re-powered with 3408 Cats. Unless it got a cheapo second owner, then they put a 3406 in it or 8v92’s. We dealt with quite a few collectors and these things wouldn’t stay on a lot more than 24 hours. Most of them went right back to Canada.
She`s rough but built tough = ) Matt at Diesel Creek is a big Autocar fan and could be a wealth of knowledge. Rich at DeBoss, Karl at Make it Kustom and Brent at Halfass Customs know loads of people in and around the industry and would be very supportive of a new channel undertaking such an endevour. Good luck ! = )
I've been thinking about that too. Once I get a few more of my videos uploaded I plan on reaching out to a few people like that and see what kind of info I can get from them
@@thebadlandschronicles19 Costs nothing to ask. As I said, they will all have a certain affinity toward the project. And who knows what might turn up through a simple conversation. I`d like to think that one or all of them could bring something to the table. Have at it and see what happens = )
@ Just one observation from a viewer of many channels. Cutting Edge Engineering, utterly fantastic film studio level editing. Letsdig18, you get it pretty much how it comes editing. From my perspective there is a happy medium where folks like me are more than happy with the quality and you are not feeling like a kicked dog because of all the editing AFTER all the work and filming and consequently burning out. Just my tuppence worth, you understand.
One HUGE tip... Pay really close attention to your thumbnails and titles !!! Matt`s channel really blew up after the first "Autocar" video I think. So be sure to use "Autocar" when relevant = ) And that will also bring random nutters like me to the comments section = )
On the subject of diff locks, typically a 6 X 6 tractor is not purchased unless equipped with diff locks. The subject truck should have diff locks in each of the three axles and one inter axle lock between the front and rear, rear axles.
@@wayoutwest4944 I'll look into it. I've mostly been concentrating on getting the motor turning over and running first before I dive too deep into the rest of it
LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE AN AMAZING RESTORATION PROJECT ! but may i ask what is the desired end result of the build ? OFF ROAD WRECKER ? OVERLANDER CAMPER ? or just a rig for a weekend beer run ? ha looks cool
@@eddieweigel9490 with a quick google search it does look pretty similar. I don't think this one is quite as big. I'm still trying to find out what model this one is and hopefully a build sheet
@thebadlandschronicles19 looked like b as I didn't see snorkel on fuel pump. Lots of cabs around. 6x6 is worth money . Them old difs are noisy bull gears, no cross locks. N14 good choice. What are you using it for?
Looks like a Great Project , However You 've got YEARS of restoration ahead of you ! Cheers !
I have no commercial license or license to drive semis or anything, nor any practical need for a truck like this… but I want this.
You've got a severe undertaking of a project there. I hope to see it back at work again.
I've dug pretty deep into this thing over the past few weeks. Was ready to pull the plug on the whole thing. After uploading this vid and seeing all the interest and support I think I have to get this back on the road now
I knew these trucks fairly well in the late 90's, I used to do contract maintenance for Sunfresh Inc for the stuff their guys couldn't do. I put the 5th wheel ramps on all 4 trucks they had, recognized the ramps in a second.
The trucks came from a Sugar Company in Hawaii originally and were beat to death when they got here to be used as field trucks only and were hauled from field to field. Sunfresh also had a good sized fleet of M123 10 ton military tractors for the same job which was loading semi-trailers under a harvester.
Also recognized the top radiator tank being steel, the aluminum tank was so badly corroded it couldn't be repaired but my radiator guy found a Mexican company that reproduced them in steel, so yes I put that radiator in that truck. Sunfresh folded in '04-'05 and the last story I heard about the Autocars was that one of their mechanics fired one accidentally without oil and seized the engine, they have to have air pressure to shut down and he let it run until it had air pressure not knowing about the stop shaft on the governor. Hope this isn't that truck.
I could go on but I'm done for now.
This one was bought from a farmer in BC and he used it a bit so I know it ran when her bought it. It didn't work well for their operation so they quit using it. It's too bad all these places it's been to go out of business. I'm trying to track down the full vin for it because I'm missing a couple digits on the tag. Once I get that I'm hoping I can find someone helpful at Autocar or something that can track down an original build sheet
that baby would make a nice snow plow truck
My Mack has 24 Inch New rubber all around . It also has Twin Tulsa 50,000 lb winches on board : )
I'd like to find a big winch for this thing
Nice trucker, best of luck, thanks for saving. Big truck and canada best ingredient for great channel
Thanks! There's a lot more content on the way so stay tuned and I hope you enjoy it!
I saw this truck when it was in BC. It came out of Washington State where it was a Heavy Hual tractor at the Hanford Reservation thats where they store old Submarine Nuclear Reactors. It has 56,000 pound rear axles right tank is hydraulic it has one fuel tank because it never went very ffar Best of luck
@@highwayhobo That's some great information! Thanks!
@@thebadlandschronicles19You may want to check the Pennsylvania area for a good cab and butterfly hood assembly, Ardmore Pennsylvania was the home of the old Autocar plant but I know there is a bunch of Autocar stuff there.
Yep. Can confirm that is the air starter tank on the side. Had a GMC General with that exact same setup. Cat in a blender. The hose and fittings are EXPENSIVE.
It makes sense why the valve on the bottom is so big
@thebadlandschronicles19 yep. The small line should run to a big button on the dash. Trigger line that opens the valve.
@@SPUPRR there is a push button beside the key.... Doesn't seem to do anything. I'll look and see if it has air lines hooked to it
Looks like it’ll be a fun but very in depth project.
It's getting very in-depth very fast. I'm still determined to get this thing up and running though💪
You can get brake shoes or clutches re-lined. A fraction of the price of new. Look for the right shop. Nice rig.
I'll definitely have to look into that. Once I get it running my next goal will be to get it moving
Cool truck
Thanks! There's a lot more content coming!
Don't replace the air start. It is really cool and works well. I owned one it worked great.
It actually has an electric starter on it. It needs a good go through so I'll be posting a video on tearing it apart and getting it working
That’s an air start tank and a relay valve for an air starter
Right side is an air tank. Air start. Part on bottom of that tank is a small "dryer" with a moisture indicator. The round "window". Good luck!
Oh interesting! Was it common for an 8v92 to have air starters? I think that's the motor it originally came with
I worked at a used truck dealer from 89 till 2006 and saw a lot of old prime movers. Most of them military. Almost all of the really big ones were Cummins V12’s with air start. After they went to the second owner, most of the Cummins motors blew up from improper maintenance. Because it cost four times what it did a six cylinder to just service the motors. They were really unreliable. If they were re-powered they were usually re-powered with 3408 Cats. Unless it got a cheapo second owner, then they put a 3406 in it or 8v92’s. We dealt with quite a few collectors and these things wouldn’t stay on a lot more than 24 hours. Most of them went right back to Canada.
Big air tank is for a air starter
Cool royal city is out by me. I would of never thought something like that would of been there at one time
She`s rough but built tough = ) Matt at Diesel Creek is a big Autocar fan and could be a wealth of knowledge. Rich at DeBoss, Karl at Make it Kustom and Brent at Halfass Customs know loads of people in and around the industry and would be very supportive of a new channel undertaking such an endevour. Good luck ! = )
I've been thinking about that too. Once I get a few more of my videos uploaded I plan on reaching out to a few people like that and see what kind of info I can get from them
@@thebadlandschronicles19 Costs nothing to ask. As I said, they will all have a certain affinity toward the project. And who knows what might turn up through a simple conversation. I`d like to think that one or all of them could bring something to the table. Have at it and see what happens = )
@JohnSmith-ud9ex I live by the words "it doesn't hurt to ask". This project has been very interesting so far and I think there's a lot more to come
@ Just one observation from a viewer of many channels. Cutting Edge Engineering, utterly fantastic film studio level editing. Letsdig18, you get it pretty much how it comes editing. From my perspective there is a happy medium where folks like me are more than happy with the quality and you are not feeling like a kicked dog because of all the editing AFTER all the work and filming and consequently burning out. Just my tuppence worth, you understand.
One HUGE tip... Pay really close attention to your thumbnails and titles !!! Matt`s channel really blew up after the first "Autocar" video I think. So be sure to use "Autocar" when relevant = ) And that will also bring random nutters like me to the comments section = )
I have a B-80 Mack Tractor its just as Massive as this AC
I don't know what I need it for. But I need it
@@markpease9575 why do you think I ended up with it! Came across it on marketplace. One thing led to another. Now here I am lol
That auto car was built to dominate only seen axles and springs that bench on leyland Martian mil spec
If your looking for compatible parts like the cap you mentioned maybe the m829 m817 and the m123/125 series of US milltary trucks might be of use
@@bobmeade7786 Awesome, thanks! I'll look into that!
On the subject of diff locks, typically a 6 X 6 tractor is not purchased unless equipped with diff locks. The subject truck should have diff locks in each of the three axles and one inter axle lock between the front and rear, rear axles.
@@wayoutwest4944 I'll look into it. I've mostly been concentrating on getting the motor turning over and running first before I dive too deep into the rest of it
That's for sure. A 6x6 with no diff-locks is essentially a 6x3, when it comes down to it.
Hope she gets an 8v92t Detroit Diesel ❤
As sweet as those motors are, if I have to put a different one in I'm leaning towards an N14 mechanical cummins
LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE AN AMAZING RESTORATION PROJECT ! but may i ask what is the desired end result of the build ?
OFF ROAD WRECKER ?
OVERLANDER CAMPER ?
or just a rig for a weekend beer run ? ha
looks cool
Honestly I have no idea yet. This whole project just popped out of nowhere. My main goal right now is to just get it up and running
Big air receiver like that, does it have air start?
Also, A Car shared body parts with White of that era....nice project
@@fourbanger Thanks! The build tag on the cab is white/western Star so I'm keeping an eye out for a good replacement. Regular electric starter
I was just going to comment that the big air receiver tank is for an air starter fir the engine.
CATERPILLAR power.
This Cat is currently sleeping. I have more videos that will be coming out soon as I dig through this thing and try and get the motor spinning again
Looks like a AP 19T Acar
@@eddieweigel9490 with a quick google search it does look pretty similar. I don't think this one is quite as big. I'm still trying to find out what model this one is and hopefully a build sheet
Contact Ray from Flash Industrial Painting for all the bodywork and painting in Wyoming, this guy is a real truck wizard 💯👍🏻💯👍🏻💯👍🏻💯👍🏻💯👍🏻
I'll have to do that, thanks!
Big girl
Wait till you see it compared to my cat 950 loader in upcoming vids
Yuck. Top mount old rockwells, big 6 suspension. B model cat.
Unfortunately its an A model Cat. I'd like to swap it out with an N14 Cummins. Trying to get it running as is first though
@thebadlandschronicles19 looked like b as I didn't see snorkel on fuel pump. Lots of cabs around. 6x6 is worth money . Them old difs are noisy bull gears, no cross locks. N14 good choice. What are you using it for?
Actually, put c model cat in, great jake less work and computer engine will just snap shafts in old power train. Keep mechanical engine to feel torque