Alright, let me break down how ridiculous that trick is to do. There's so much RNG it's not even funny. In order to do it, the brute and elite need to be out of the way (completely random, almost never happens in my experience), and if you try to kill them the sniper jackal will hear you and insta-kill you. Speaking of said jackal, sometimes he can be aware of you as soon as the door opens, and insta-kill you. Assuming the enemies are out of the way, and the jackal doesn't see you, _and_ you're able to get the sword-fly in the first few tries, (frame-perfect trick, and if you wait too long the Jackal will see you) there's an entirely new series of *COMPLETELY BS* events that can occur. 1, you hit that stupid branch that rocats passes under in the video (will usually result in death). 2, you're in the air for just _slightly_ too long, resulting in instant death due to fall-timer. 3, the jackal that you're sword-flying off of sees you mid-air and ends your very existence. 4, your angle is slightly off and you hit a wall in the hallway you land in, which can kill you. 5, the enemies that were fighting in front of the door bumble back into the way right as you start to fly, screwing up your angle completely, and usually resulting in yeeting yourself out of the map. Don't forget, if you're at a crazy pace like Rocats is in the vid, you won't have gotten any checkpoints since the elevator skip. Meaning losing at least 30 seconds, but most likely much more since all the rooms leading up to this trick are _full_ of RNG.
Jocular Ranger5 I remember being super fucking proud of myself when I memorized the enemy spawning patterns to beat whatever prophet you fight, but I’m sure I’ll have a grand ol time
@@carsonharris543 The opening of gravemind was way harder than tartarus fo rme. Honestly tartarus is a pushover if you kill his reinforcing brutes before they reach the arena.
@Hokiebird428 man you're a legend. I've watched all your videos of halo 2 and 3. Man they were so fun and the way you explained things were so great. It's so nice to meet you like this.
Bruh i forgot how hard and a pain in the ass this mission was and how long it was i was doing solo legendary got 1 hour and 16 min but still felt longer and i died so many times and now i go to bed angry and annoyed at halo and myself cuz i got work in 4 hours lmfao
@@chinojosa4563 SLASO means Solo Legendary All Skulls On. In particular not all the new and most of Non-Scoring Skulls are actually on aren't on I don't know I don't really pay attention to it but yeah. ☠️
Same here been over 14 years since it was discovered BUT I finally pulled it off this year, don't give up man. Mastering it however is another dilemma.
This level use too be so hard that speedrunners would do an exploit with the envy skull which wouldve taken so long to activate. Glad to see the new strats have removed the need to dashboard
@Frost Yeah imagine if he had to do it at 60fps looking at him sweating made me laugh I was drenched with sweat on SLASO 60fps that shit is harder than Touhou.
@@drt03uwu lmao it do be like that. I probably lied in the original comment and spent at least half an hour just to get out of that damned room, and then another couple of hours at the end of the mission
@@iw_legendary_sayain2215 He's also spamming jump the whole time, because lunging gives back your jump. You need to jump so that you have enough momentum to carry the brute upwards, since npcs won't jump off your head.
@@iw_legendary_sayain2215 As someone who's done the trick a handful of times, I'd say the hardest part is getting the brute in the right spot in the tube (above you and within melee lunge range) and second hardest is not accidentally killing the brute on the way up lol
Somehow I did this in 1:15 (one hour fifteen) my first time on legendary and it seems like that’s not even bad considering some people took hours to get out of the first room
Bungie: ok gravemind is a very hard level on legendary and is pretty long so make sure you have precise ai- Rocats beating it at 8 minutes Bungie: oh ok
@@TheMDbauS Usually the par times will add up to just under 3 hours, but it depends on the level and game. For most Halo games, if you get par time on legendary for each level you'll be good, but others you wanna get far under. For Halo 2 and ODST, you wanna get as far under par time as possible so you have enough time for Regret, Gravemind, and Coastal Highway.
This level is the meanest level in any game that isn't indy I've ever played. I really kicked this level in the teeth on my second run through it ever, and I did it in a bit more than 50 minutes on heroic. Maybe on easy could I approach the 20 minute par. This guy does it under 9 minute on legendary. Unbelievable.
They only work in Classic mode, for example: At the start right after he killed the 2 brutes + 4 grunts there's a certain position the lights have to be on either side above the door or you won't skip the enemy spawns properly. On "enhanced" graphics, the design, shape and size of many things has changed considerably so it's next to impossible to pull off.
Truth: yeesh, the Demon killed regret on delta halo. But at least there was no way he survived the glassing beam, and if he did, he's still down there and not up here Chief: OOOOHHHH YOOOOOOO *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA* *AAAAAAAAAA* *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*
This is just one of those levels that will never be optimised. You have to play it fast and use risky strats to get a time like this which means a lot of skill is taken out, it's very RNG heavy, definitely fun when it goes well though
Rocats is insane my fastest gravemind legendary was 18 minutes and i literally killed everything as fast as i could i didnt even wait for shields i dont know how this man got sub 8:48
So I beat Halo 2 on legendary under 3 hours for the achievement and it’s funny cuz gravemind alone on legendary while speedrunning to me 1 hour. Which left me with 2 hours to beat every other mission on legendary. Most insane achievement I’ve ever acquired cuz it took actual speedrunning tactics to get.
Do you think the creators purposely made the games/levels like this so it could be speed run or is ut just exploits from pro gamers after alot of time??
The second thing you said is spot on: BUNGiE had no idea how efficiently players would be able to finish levels after the game turned at least a decade old.
This probably wasn't intentional. Bungie did a very bad job with Halo 2, and they didn't have time to iron out all the issues with the game. They hardly had any time at all to playtest the game, which is why it's so unbalanced and has loads of exploits.
The begining of this is pretty much what i imagine chief would be like in the lore
Badass, killing things, but he's being smart about it.
Yeah, prolly right.
The firefights in the earlier books definitely fit the bill, Chief is always analyzing the environment
canon difficulty is normal. legendary is just there for the challenge.
@@richmeisterradio wrong, canon difficulty is heroic.
@@richmeisterradio u straight wrong
0:00-4:41 ok, seems like a very fast and lethal run, nothing too wild
4:42 this man is insane
Alright, let me break down how ridiculous that trick is to do. There's so much RNG it's not even funny.
In order to do it, the brute and elite need to be out of the way (completely random, almost never happens in my experience), and if you try to kill them the sniper jackal will hear you and insta-kill you. Speaking of said jackal, sometimes he can be aware of you as soon as the door opens, and insta-kill you. Assuming the enemies are out of the way, and the jackal doesn't see you, _and_ you're able to get the sword-fly in the first few tries, (frame-perfect trick, and if you wait too long the Jackal will see you) there's an entirely new series of *COMPLETELY BS* events that can occur.
1, you hit that stupid branch that rocats passes under in the video (will usually result in death). 2, you're in the air for just _slightly_ too long, resulting in instant death due to fall-timer. 3, the jackal that you're sword-flying off of sees you mid-air and ends your very existence. 4, your angle is slightly off and you hit a wall in the hallway you land in, which can kill you. 5, the enemies that were fighting in front of the door bumble back into the way right as you start to fly, screwing up your angle completely, and usually resulting in yeeting yourself out of the map.
Don't forget, if you're at a crazy pace like Rocats is in the vid, you won't have gotten any checkpoints since the elevator skip. Meaning losing at least 30 seconds, but most likely much more since all the rooms leading up to this trick are _full_ of RNG.
How did this man manage to get not one but two snipers to not instantly pop him after making eye contact, that’s the real wild ride.
@@CubiStudios at this point I'm starting to think that rocats has just transcended reality itself and is immune to RNG
@@amaury_permer Stands for "Randomly Generated Number/Numbers". In video games, most things that occur randomly are determined by RNG.
I am the 343rd like
Cortana: “To catch Truth, you’ll need to take a shortcut.”
rocats: *starts flying through the air*
Hahahahaha
Meanwhile me, dying for two hours at that opening BRUTES! section. I hear that dialogue in my nightmares years later.
I’m playing Halo 2 for the first time on legendary, well I started last summer, but I just got to gravemind and I’m starting to go insane
Oh wait till you fight tartarus
Jocular Ranger5 I remember being super fucking proud of myself when I memorized the enemy spawning patterns to beat whatever prophet you fight, but I’m sure I’ll have a grand ol time
@@carsonharris543 The opening of gravemind was way harder than tartarus fo rme. Honestly tartarus is a pushover if you kill his reinforcing brutes before they reach the arena.
The most fun part of halo 2 legendary is obviously the jackal snipers
You really went to town on that one elite that killed you
This may not be my preferred way to play the game, but damned if this isn’t extremely impressive.
Speedrunning is defo an acquired taste
@Hokiebird428 man you're a legend. I've watched all your videos of halo 2 and 3. Man they were so fun and the way you explained things were so great. It's so nice to meet you like this.
Watch the John Wick speedruns. He kills just about everything in those.
I've just came from your video of this mission and wanted to see a speed run rn, then saw ya here.
Great videos also Hokie
It's so interesting how shooting almost feels like a secondary action in these speedruns. It's more about just moving on
They only shoot when it’s really necessary, like at the beginning of this level when the game won’t let you progress unless all the enemies are dead
Thats deep man... its hard to move on sometimes
4:11 man's started to levitate after extreme cbt
😭😭😭😭💀💀💀
i never imagined speed running involving molesting a brute 4:00
Or a flood form in high charity
4 hours faster than me
2 days, 6 hours, 45 minutes faster than me jajaja
So close
@@hendrahendra 4h20m 💨
@@ElronHumpperdink same bro
Bruh i forgot how hard and a pain in the ass this mission was and how long it was i was doing solo legendary got 1 hour and 16 min but still felt longer and i died so many times and now i go to bed angry and annoyed at halo and myself cuz i got work in 4 hours lmfao
Sangheili at 5:31 "Bye!"
That was a brute
that was tartarus actually..
“ *Bye* _have a wonderful time_ .”
Idk why I imagine an elite would say that
7:42 the explosion changed the trajectory of the thrown grenade. Pretty cool H2 detail, I love this game
yea its in every halo game works with rockets too
Prophet: "Kill the demon!"
Brutes: "Uhhhh..where is he?"
Gravemind is easily one of my favorite missions in the series and it’s super cool seeing it be broken down and demolished like this.
So perfect how the breakdown of Blow Me Away continues to play even after you’re back at the main menu.
My thought at the end was "he reset to checkpoint. Wonder what he messed up on."
*proceeds to fuel rod the hell out of the covenant*
Holy crap, this is the mission that people die when it loads
When I did this level for my Monopolized run, my final time was 35:36. Boy, do I wish I could’ve gotten the prison skip to work like you did!
my dumbass clicked on it like if the video was that long
@@youraverageuser7039 Me too we got smoovbrain
It took me a hour because of the starting room and final encounter with the invisible elites, the prison surprisingly wasn’t actually that difficult
Holy geez! That was incredible!
Much appreciated, I actually used to watch your halo vids a few years back, cool to see you still around
Master Chief Sierra-117 what’s laso
@@chinojosa4563 Legendary all skulls on
@@chinojosa4563 SLASO means Solo Legendary All Skulls On. In particular not all the new and most of Non-Scoring Skulls are actually on aren't on I don't know I don't really pay attention to it but yeah. ☠️
8:12 I always wondered when that song came into play.
@@liamchance3604 I still listen to it from the soundtrack.
amazing song. got to hear it live this year
@@KoreanTakeout Wow cool!
Blow me away
@@KoreanTakeout same! I heard Breaking Benjamin perform September 20th,2019!
Cortana-"you might want to consider sitting this one out" rocats- fuelrod go brrrr
Cortana: "you might consider sitting this one out"
Rocats: 7:35
The scoped weapon/sword thing is something I’ve never been able to successfully pull off.
Same here been over 14 years since it was discovered BUT I finally pulled it off this year, don't give up man.
Mastering it however is another dilemma.
It's twice as hard to do (literally) in MCC. The time frame in between the sword fly combo is cut in half.
@@cheeko_914
I dunno. I tried a few times on the 360. Didn’t work xD
I just suck at glitches.
Its called sword fly, yes its extremely hard to pull off consistently but its still possible to do it
343 older halos will always be for the glory and memories
You will never get a like, young blood.
As a gamer such as you, you have my undying respect
This is just pure skill I could only dream of reaching this level!
This level use too be so hard that speedrunners would do an exploit with the envy skull which wouldve taken so long to activate. Glad to see the new strats have removed the need to dashboard
Your ability to skip through literally 1/3 of this level is highly admirable.
8:13-9:00 you really blew me away
Boooooo
Man, those are some mad skills!
This is the most impressive thing I’ve seen done in halo
Check out Jervalin’s halo 2 LASO deathless. It’s insane.
@Frost Yeah imagine if he had to do it at 60fps looking at him sweating made me laugh I was drenched with sweat on SLASO 60fps that shit is harder than Touhou.
Even the speed runners fear the Jackal snipers on legendary
Man this fool is savage, it took me 9 minutes to complete the starting part in heroic
DAMN IT TAKES ME A WEEK TO GET PAST THE FIRST PART IN NORMAL MODE😭
@@drt03uwu lmao it do be like that. I probably lied in the original comment and spent at least half an hour just to get out of that damned room, and then another couple of hours at the end of the mission
oh💀
This man is unstoppable. Subscribed
* Grunt voice *
7:50“My internal organs!” Sliced like a god damn cake there boy.
Man, it took me 50 minutes to beat this mission.
You gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers. Try two and a half hours on heroic
Simply built different
BTW, why did Bungie name this level Gravemind and the next Chief level in H2 High Charity? Shouldn't they be vise versa?
Idk, the map file for gravemind is actually called high charity lol so I guess they were originally gonna call it that
Sad that the leaderboard is filled with cheaters
Yeah that’s why you gotta just stick with the HaloRuns site
4:11 wait, WTF?
What do you press to do that?
Jesper Kragh it goes like this B, X, B, X continued until he reaches his destination
@@iw_legendary_sayain2215 He's also spamming jump the whole time, because lunging gives back your jump. You need to jump so that you have enough momentum to carry the brute upwards, since npcs won't jump off your head.
Dragon Soul it’s an impressive maneuver if I were to attempt it I’m pretty sure I’d miss a key second and fail sustaining the momentum.
@@iw_legendary_sayain2215 As someone who's done the trick a handful of times, I'd say the hardest part is getting the brute in the right spot in the tube (above you and within melee lunge range) and second hardest is not accidentally killing the brute on the way up lol
Took me like 2 hours to beat this shit on Legendary. And you did it in less than 10 mins... damn.
same , the prison was pain, stupid checkpoint on the end of the elevator , when you going down , i died 20+ times :\
2:49 perfect timing
how did you jump so fast over the top of elites/brutes at several places?
wtf I thought Chief is holding a can in the thumbnail
Your pfp makes these runs a million times better lol
That elitat 7:47 was REEEEEEing so hard
Watching and hearing halo just makes me happy and smile
Ouch almost no death.
How are you flying across the map like that?
Not bad..... my preferred method is spawning in to a death animation 12 times in a row and then rage switching to another game.
Oh mine is just killing one of the brutes then dying about 10 times, quit out of mcc and repeat
Sword flying is soo satisfying
4:01 Do you need the brute to come with you in the lift in order to reverse the lift
Yeah
Damn he thicc 😂
Somehow I did this in 1:15 (one hour fifteen) my first time on legendary and it seems like that’s not even bad considering some people took hours to get out of the first room
How do you do the thing where you kinda flew through the map
Game with broken physics > Game with perfect physics.... every single time
If I was fighting someone who fought like this I'd probably refer to them as a demon too.
It took me 2 hours to beat this level, and the first 45mins were in the starting room. Yet you do it in 10 god damn minutes
Technically, he spent hours and hours practicing.
Yes I'm fun at parties
It’s pretty impressive to pull it off to make it look simple and what works and what doesn’t work I can tel a lot of time and effort went into this.
Seeing you skip the prisoner rescue part was so funny I just laughed and laughed.
I don't blame them for calling him demon. Fuck, man.
Bungie: ok gravemind is a very hard level on legendary and is pretty long so make sure you have precise ai-
Rocats beating it at 8 minutes
Bungie: oh ok
Well for future reference to get up the lift quicker I’ll just rapidly swap my weapons under a brutes crotch.
Can someone explain the skip at 0:26 and 1:21? I thought you could only skip from inside one of the doors.
do you press jump button when doing the butterfly jump?
sometimes i forget that this game only has a suggestion of physics
Imagine your fighting Chief, then bam! He flys away for no goddamn reason
No damn reason?! Talking about world record status lol.
Is this possible on the Chinese version of TMCC? I’m trying to get monopolized on that
it's insane this lvl has such a low par time I wonder how much of this is mandatory
Par times are actually made for easy difficulty, only the 3 hour achievement has to be done on legendary
To beat the 3 hr achievement you need to be even faster than par times iirc
@@TheMDbauS Usually the par times will add up to just under 3 hours, but it depends on the level and game. For most Halo games, if you get par time on legendary for each level you'll be good, but others you wanna get far under.
For Halo 2 and ODST, you wanna get as far under par time as possible so you have enough time for Regret, Gravemind, and Coastal Highway.
@@tTaseric For ODST, just play the last rally point for each level....It counts.
@@theneoreformationist Unfortunately, ODST is the only one I actually have the speedrun achievement on so I wish I knew this before lol
This level is the meanest level in any game that isn't indy I've ever played. I really kicked this level in the teeth on my second run through it ever, and I did it in a bit more than 50 minutes on heroic. Maybe on easy could I approach the 20 minute par. This guy does it under 9 minute on legendary. Unbelievable.
Can some one explain the 'why' for how those initial first waves are skipped at the beginning?
I thought you couldn't sword fly or sword cancel in MCC. Can someone explain how that works
They updated mcc to bring back sword flying
8:41
Elite: Wait hold up, let me run forward then backward to you*
3:44 BOOM HEAD SHOT
Do these tricks only work in classic mode, or do you just prefer the old graphics?
They only work in Classic mode, for example:
At the start right after he killed the 2 brutes + 4 grunts there's a certain position the lights have to be on either side above the door or you won't skip the enemy spawns properly.
On "enhanced" graphics, the design, shape and size of many things has changed considerably so it's next to impossible to pull off.
This is the original right and not MCC? Cuz l'm pretty sure sword canceling and butterfly slashes don't work on MCC
Is this mcc?
It's but it was 3 years ago some of the strats here don't work on 60fps current patch on Steam PC.
The second elevator was where I wanted to know how to pass fast.
Damn!! That breaking benjamin song always gets me!
Truth: yeesh, the Demon killed regret on delta halo. But at least there was no way he survived the glassing beam, and if he did, he's still down there and not up here
Chief: OOOOHHHH YOOOOOOO *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*
*AAAAAAAAAA*
*AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*
Great run but for a mission as famous as gravemind you’d think there’d be a run with less mistakes and a faster start
This is just one of those levels that will never be optimised. You have to play it fast and use risky strats to get a time like this which means a lot of skill is taken out, it's very RNG heavy, definitely fun when it goes well though
A really spartan today
Is that another area you can skip waves of reinforcements at 0:35?
Yep, it's a little bit hard to skip waves on that place, i use the old place :p
xRecon_ Yeah I have mixed success in making it to the door on time for the other spot lmao
@@Zonda1996 the door one is way more precise than this one, would highly recommend using the pedastool one that I use
How do you do the fly sword?
I was wondering if this was TAS, but the curtain coming down 7:50 suggests it is not. Nice work!
Yeah this is just a regular run, here's a TAS of this level ruclips.net/video/EcVN6uufZn4/видео.html
@@rocats Whoa, that's nuts!
Rocats is insane my fastest gravemind legendary was 18 minutes and i literally killed everything as fast as i could i didnt even wait for shields i dont know how this man got sub 8:48
Finally some SF blunders the high charity speedrun was perfect tho
Is that sword glitch ya cheat code
So I beat Halo 2 on legendary under 3 hours for the achievement and it’s funny cuz gravemind alone on legendary while speedrunning to me 1 hour. Which left me with 2 hours to beat every other mission on legendary. Most insane achievement I’ve ever acquired cuz it took actual speedrunning tactics to get.
the power of yxr is ridiculous
Back to the simple days
Do you think the creators purposely made the games/levels like this so it could be speed run or is ut just exploits from pro gamers after alot of time??
The second thing you said is spot on: BUNGiE had no idea how efficiently players would be able to finish levels after the game turned at least a decade old.
This probably wasn't intentional. Bungie did a very bad job with Halo 2, and they didn't have time to iron out all the issues with the game. They hardly had any time at all to playtest the game, which is why it's so unbalanced and has loads of exploits.
BRUH THIS LOOKS BETTER THAN NAKED ELI’s! HOLY CRAP!
how do you avoid stopping mid air with the sword flying?
Change weapons immediately once you take off and spam jump.
Have you tried doing laso?
I'm wondering if this is actually possible in multiplayer?
343 disabled sword flying in multiplayer
8:14 BLOW ME AWAY 🤘🏾
7:48 Fuk yo assassination.
Immaculate, nearly
2:59 And here I thought we were just going to settle this over a cup of tea
maybe in the part of the sleep grunts you can do some melee cancell to save just a little of time if you want :)
why it does skip the scene where the MC rescue the marines in jail?
it’s called Prison Skip. you can skip that entire section if you butterfly off a brute in the grav lift at 4:00