Remember when times were simpler? And the realistic muscular woman was Sarah Connor, just doing pull ups and stuff, looking like an absolute badass. Good times
Unfortunately, even when Sarah Conner was changing from waitress to cyborg killer, her attraction was diminishing. Not saying it's a bad thing, since she was planning to save the world, or be a big part of saving the world, but at the cost of being less attractive.
@@stripedrajang3571 she wasn't less attractive. Though it's funny to me that the 80s had more realistic looking people in movies than the modern era. My go to example is always Kyle Reese from terminator. Compare the original terminator. Kyle is skinny, scarred, and in general how you would expect someone living in a post apocalypse to look. Then look an terminator genesis. Kyle is buff muscler, looks like he hits the gym 4 days a week and has a healthy diet. Not to mention access to razors and shampoo. Everything in Hollywood has become idealized.
@@juliofialio4570 toned not bulky. Which is how women tend to build muscle naturally. I've known real life female bodybuilders that didn't have arms and shoulders like teela and the women I served with in the Marines were smaller than them(and would still kick the arse of 9 out of 10 men)
This certainly goes along the ideology of the liar's handbook: Deny, deny deny, attack, attack, attack. Accuse your opponents of what you're doing. Distract from your deception, deny, deny, deny.
Original has people of morals. Even Skeletor has his own set of morals. There's an episode where a little furry kid shows love to Skeletor and it melts his heart. Makes Skeletor look like a big softy. And one of the reason's fans like him.
@@urlicqeldromamakolligjazva1752 Even in the He-Man and She-Ra Christmas Special, Skeletor shows how he has good in his heart when he's willing to protect Miguel, Alicia, and Relay from Horde Prime.
Honestly, if they just admitted it’s for stylistic reasons I would have been okay with it. I like to draw comics. Drawing things with Is just fun. but I mean, Common maaan, you couldn’t even come with a better excuse?
The problem is, if they are caught saying that which KS did. They are susceptible to a lawsuit or two. It will not surprise me if by the next year or so Universal file a lawsuit against Netflix. The only thing I can think Universal is not doing it right now is because of Mattel side of the contract. But after that last two years before expiration, I think something big will happen.
When they keep doing all this 25% different bs because they don't have the actual licensing rights, all it does is just erodes faith in the consumer and fans. It simply becomes a case of "Fool me once".
not only that but the resuklt of not paying for the original models is that a show over several generations wil become unreconisable because it changed for 75%
Yeah, like veggster says, besides eroding the faith of consumers and fans, it's actually changing characters and stories so they're no longer what they are or what they were. I'm all for creativity and development, but when it's destroying original characters, myths and themes, it's creating something completely different from what it's been. For me, a 25% difference is 100% not original characters or shows. It's something new that's either mocking them or exploiting them. It's either an attempt to replace or re-write them or to continue stories unrelated to original stories. Legal, creative, moral, ethical... whatever, 25% difference = 100% not canon, for me. Just seems a way to steal properties without having to pay for them or a way for studios to disown them entirely out of disinterest, like they're all making really bad fan films, less any of the passion or reverence. Gory, just pay the fees, share the profits, get the permissions, whatever. If you want to tell a property's continuing story using its characters and iconography, do it properly, in a way that allows you to actually do it. Too expensive? Can't get permission? Don't tell the story, find something else. Funny, someone else here mentioned how He-Man's based off of Conan. Can you imagine if Funimation and Mattel just did Conan stories, but 25% different? Not only would we never have had He-Man & the Masters of the Universe, we'd no longer have Conan.
Where do you get that they DON'T have "...actual licensing rights..."? The DO. I think you missed the point of the Legalities of ALL the rights... Mattel DOES have the rights, as mentioned in the video. Or I should say, Mattel does have SOME rights...as mentioned in the video!
@@bigbastard3712 Sorry, guess I wasn't clear. I'm not saying they don't have licensing rights, I'm saying the licensing rights they has to buy really suck, 'cause they turn what something is into something it's not, something that has to be different from the original, else extra royalties must be paid. Crikey, just pay 'em so you can make a really good product, an official one, in keeping with the bloody lore. Why save a buck to produce something inferior and unrecognizable? Why halve your profits like that right out of the gate?
Thing is, they have better examples than ever to draw from, since female mma stars and pro wrestlers are actually a thing. A ton of them are fit, muscular and attractive without looking like nearly immobile body builders.
@Greg Elchert - Gina Corrano isn't even that fit anymore. She always had trouble making weight when she was still fighting, and now she's nowhere near what her "fighting shape" used to be... But, yes, Gina Corrano used to be a perfect example of a fit, attractive, and capable female warrior/fighter, and she was nowhere near a big as these women are drawn to be. But then neither of those pictures of women that they say they drew inspiration from are that big either, so... 🤷🏾♂️... There's no point looking for the logic in something that is obviously not true.
Why the HELL would they use WOMEN as a TEMPLATE for the MALE MotU characters? That's INSANE! Oh, wait, you guys ONLY have problems with STEROIDAL WOMEN, NOT the MASSIVELY OVERSTEROIDED MALES OR CATS, as this show points out. Seems people only hear what they WANT to these days, despite PROOF TO THE CONTRARY! 🤷♀️
@@bigbastard3712 - Did you watch the video? The section reviewing the character designs of prior series definitely covers the fact that both the male and female characters were more reasonably proportioned previously.
I don't know why studios are allergic to telling the truth. "We had to make it visually distinct for legal reasons" is MORE than enough excuse for me. I would not have been (as) upset at the changes if I knew that it was done for legal reasons.
yeah. i forgave anakin for looking like a sims character and yoda looking like an aborted fetus in rebels because i think they were pretty upfront about not having the legal rights back then.
I know, right? It's like that business with Dr Strange's planned cameo in the Wandavision series getting dropped. Had they just said, "Dr Strange is such a big character we were worried he'd overshadow Wanda in her own series," I'd have accepted it as a logical, understandable argument. Then they had to toss in "mansplaining"...
80s series character design were rotoscoped on actual people. That teela had a feminine design 2002 series shows teela teenaged and using a staff, hence lean and acrobatic fighting style.
My wife watched He-Man every day after school in the 1980’s. Her opinion of original feminine Teela? “She’s gorgeous.” Then I showed her the 2021 M-to-F transgender version and for the first time she understands why people get so worked up by cultural vandalism.
@@burntvirtue Re watch the video. The studio was making the argument that the jacked up muscles of the characters was to make them more realistic for this version. That was countered by the fact that the original was rotoscoped using real body actors.
apathy is another word for sort of beeing neutral(its not exacly that i know but in this situation its an appropriate use),its not the oppaside its in the middle of possative and negative,see this is the problem today people dont know what words mean annymore. i get what youre trying to say though.
At least one video game developer has said that recently The attractive feminine model in whatever game this was was bulked up and androgenised because they didn't think she'd be believable as a pillar of strength and fortitude
I understand changing a character enough to not pay an actor for their likeness. But this is some kind of BS about being able to legally make a show as long as you don't don't make a show similar to another show based on the show you paid for the rights to make. Besides that, Netflix and K. Smith are full of $hi+.
Both This, the Filmation show and the 2002 show are based on the Toys. The Toys come first. That's why the Show is just called Masters of the Universe. Why is this so hard to understand?
@@Fenris30Because the designs of Heela, Andro and Evil-Him are blatant proof they don't. If they did come first, the designs would be based on what the demographic that actually buys merch likes; instead we get ones that cater to a specific demographic not known for supporting those who pander to it.
@@angrymokyuu1951 Yeah well some of us guys like a girl with a little muscle who can throw hands. I swear it's like people forget the Swords, shields, staffs and Armor have weight. Just cause you like doughy Milk Drinkers doesn't mean the rest of us do. Give me a big muscled shield maiden anyday.
Id say the overwhelming majority of the male fan base is perfectly fine with strong female leads, Wonder Woman, Stargirl, Captain Marvel, hell even the Harley Quinn animated series etc. But it's the bait , switch and agenda pushing that we don't care for.
Once again, this is a prime example of someone saying, "I didn't lie!" Their "reasoning" is that they didn't say or print out anything which was technically not true. However, there was a deception, and that deception was intentional. Even more, if you notice, Kevin Smith and the crew focus on certain "talking points." They will completely avoid others such as the evidence when Kevin Smith in particular said he never liked "Masters of the Universe," but instead claimed he "was always a superfan." It's still a lie, plain and simple. This is the active choice to deceive and manipulate. I ask this in summary. If you can prove someone said at least three lies in the span of their sales pitch, what else are they hiding? Just something to consider.
@@RanMouri82 Indeed they were. They were also maligned and their name smeared. However, consider this -- their subscriptions went from barely 60,000 two years ago to over 225,000. I quote from a meaningful comedy from 1986. "THEY'RE KICKING OUR BUTTS! AND IT'S NOT LUCK!"
The whole Kelvin Timeline shite in the Bad Reboot / Klutzmann fiasco was and remains a massive deception on a fanbase, that split that base into "woke" and "toxic". All because shysters loved carving up the IP rights (film and TV merchandising) into chunks that can only foster these "reimagined" abominations....
As an actual artist that specializes in anatomically accurate male musculature, I'll be the first to say you can NOT take male physique, slap a wig on it, and say it can pass for a "strong female." The fact is these "artists" just aren't very good at what they allege to do. All they did was make a one-body-template for all characters and slapped differentiating finishing features to set them apart.
I don't mind the jacked, and unrealistic, proportions (for all characters). The problem is the female characters in MOTUR aren't women, they're whiny and petty men with lipstick, both in their design and writing
Whinny petty men with lipstick Is the true expression of the so called "Strong Female Character" the SJWs have made into one of their golden calves. Even the live action ones played by the least attractive actresses they can cast.
I still don't know why Evil-Lyn is so jacked seeing as she's a magic user. I don't think waving around a thin staff and saying magic words is supposed to make you so buff but what do I know.
@@Geomatzen It seems there is also a issue with females having female shaped bodies nowadays, because it's seen as exclusive. Not all females are "child bearers". So it's better to draw a "blank". At most with a little chest.
@@neutronalchemist3241 Or, conversely, the idea that a REAL woman has an hourglass figure, 44DDs, and long, flowing hair. The Conclusion is pretty fucking obvious in this case; not ONLY is Teela NOT a woman...NEITHER ARE ALL THE BRAVE WOMEN WHO HAVE BATTLED BREAST CANCER AND HAD FUCKING CHEMO AND MASTECTOMIES! >:( (Before you come at me, this is based on the LARGEST TWO complaints 'men' presenting these arguments have run with on forums; Teela's a 'man' because she has short hair and no tits.) Further, they keep mentioning how she is no longer 'gorgeous, beautiful, hot' etc. Meaning they can't stroke the snake to the NEW Teela. Instead of trying to bomb Revelation, they should take their money and buy a Classic Teela figure, if that's what they so desperately crave. Not sure they have any blowup dolls of her, but the fucking income would offset the Licensing expense in a FUCKING WEEK, from what I've seen on the Forums... 🧐😏
@@bigbastard3712 Conveniently, you ignore the opinions of female fans. We are not your shields, and you are not helping. And if Teela had breast cancer, it was because of all the magical testosterone and steroid shots she's been taking.
Honestly, I don't have a problem with Teela having muscles since I think she was the best fighter and general of their army. But why the hell Evil-Lyn got muscles? She's a spellcaster, she's not doing hand to hand combat like the other brawlers. Also, it's funny how they bring up Wonder Woman as inspiration when Gal Gadot didn't have muscles herself in the movies.
What excuse are they going to give their mess-up of Cowboy Bee-bop, or when Teela becomes Sorceress, Andra becomes the new He-Man, or the all-mighty-foul-up of Amazon's LOTR's Series....we live in Dark Times!
@@cbalan777 Well get used to it my friend. The Feminists will not stop until their cancer has spread to everything. Have you seen the Amazon's face in the Diablo 2 remake? She literally looks like Dolph Lundgren.
Modern bodybuilding is in another league, just not the most desirable league. A lot those dudes that have gotten that big can barely wipe their own rear end without help. Because their arms are too big to flex and bend properly.
Not to mention that in order to actually look like that for competition they half-starve themselves right before. Sure they look like they could bench press a car, but they're so exhausted you could push them over with relative ease.
@@DetectiveBarricade Oh yeah they’re definitely at their weakest and most water depleted to have that shredded look. I can appreciate all of the time, work and most importantly energy that it takes to compete but they’ve gotten so far from a ideal body composition to where they look like slabs of beef. But also, where do you go after Arnold’s era? You go bigger, just not necessarily better.
Classic bodybuilders Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ronnie Coleman both express their disdain for the modern style. Bodybuilding in the 1970's and 1980's was also steroid driven but the ideal was still fundamentally fitness, symmetry, and balance. They both scoff at these modern bodybuilders and say none of them would have made it onto the stage. They're unfit, unbalanced, and look terrible. Huge for its own sake isn't the same thing as quality.
thats only haf true,the public gets the consequences its just that the people in power dont they can do as they plz,and thats the problem democricy is dying and tyrants are taking over.
Thanks for this video! I'm way more interested in your account of the story behind the scenes than I am in the new MoTU series. Battlecat jacked up like Belgian Blue, LOL. As for this mess... Wow. Everyone laughed at Skeletor when he went back to school to become a copyright lawyer, but he showed them all!
So, to be able to do a show with those characters, you have to make them look different (> 25%) and in doing so, you're killing the franchise. Good job guys! 🤮 They say intelligence is the capacity to make things simpler; in all likelihood, Kevin Smith and Netflix don't qualify. 🤦♂️
the problem with this 25% rule is 2-3 generations later youre charc are barely reconisable,netflix is just beeing cheap not wanting to pay to use original models.
@@Marcustheseer It should be simple enough, you do the show the right way in respecting the fans, the history and the characters OR don't do it at all!
@@Marcustheseer 'netflix is just beeing cheap not wanting to pay to use original models.' And as a result, they've created a disaster which is damaging for them. 🤦♂️
@@Age_of_Apocalypse The disaster doesn't primarily come from the appearance of the characters, more like from the "disappearance" of some of them from the story for the sake of agendas.
Ironically most of the animated series from the 70's and 80's featured realistically proportioned characters, it wasn't until much, much later they started giving us sponges, stick figures and blobs.
I’d heard a little bit about the legal issues surrounding MOTU:R and the old series but it’s nice to see someone bring them up. Even if we don’t know the details we do know that there are issues. Liked, Subbed, and even hit the bell. Really can’t wait for more info from y’all.
After they kill off Bravestarr in the first episode of "New Texas", I wonder how big Judge JB McBride's muscles will be. And anyone who's watched Dorohedoro will know you can have massive muscle women who are fantastic, likeable characters. Even here, Evil-Lyn has the same build (why though, she's a mage?) and just comes across better.
@@Halfort57as the iconic star of the show (as iconic to it as He-Man), I expect if it went ahead there would be some licensing rules that apply to him more strictly. Less screen time and the main character being "dead" may distance itself enough for licensing purposes, whatever they might be. This is probably the real reason why He-Man was killed off in episode 1 as well, not to milk fanboy tears or whatever.
Fact: Gal Gadot, the IRL actress of Wonder Woman, a former IDF Sergeant who originally enlisted as a combat fitness instructor, doesn't look jacked at all in her role. To be jacked like that as a woman, you either have to take lots of steroids, or be a professional body builder. A woman will never be organically as jacked as Netflix wants to make us believe.
It's a cartoon bro. Not real life. Teela looks exactly like she should. He-Man is literally 4 times her size. I think it's awesome. I'm 43 and grew up watching the original.
The pieces about the nuts and bolts of the industry is what drew me to ME. I’m glad they still do that. Otherwise, this would be yet another channel with screaming nerd rage that I’d turn off.
Educative analysis. It makes some kind of sense. Reading about times going back to the original Star Trek, I have been surprised about how conscious they were about not making a TV program too similar to what could be claimed under IP laws at the time. It does, indeed, appear, very restrictive.
I think “realistic” and “unrealistic” are code for breasts nowadays. Revelation shows obvious inspiration from Gal Godot in that area (and Arnold Schwarzenegger for the rest of the female characters’ bodies.)
@@marikroyals7111 I believe the term comes from the fact that it’s not terribly realistic to expect all the women in a story to be genetically predisposed to put tons of fat on there and nowhere else.
Damn, this is a really good informative video that answered a lot of questions! You just earned yourself a subscriber! (Although I think I already was a RUclips is unsubscribing people at random.)
while i find the possible reason for the character designs interesting, i dont really mind the exaggerated aesthetics in masters of the universe. Bait and switch advertisements and teela's character development among others are issues i have with the netflix cartoon.
Kevin Smith DID actually at one time say that the show was a DIRECT continuation of the original show. If you go back and listen to the panel he did at PowerCon like 3 years ago, he says this. Something tells me Powerhouse needed to have a talk with him about his wording. This whole thing about the copyrights being in flux is news to me. Everything makes a lot more sense now.
How cute. They hide behind the argument of artistic integrity to excuse the cold hard reality of Rights Wrangling as if anyone truly would believe that artistry was ever a cause for any changes made to long standing character designs. They should have just been adults about this and just been upfront with the reasoning behind the changes.
As boring as it sounds for others, I love hearing and learning about copyrights, claims, and stuff like that. After learning about star trek, I at least understand all the changes even though I don't agree with any of them.
"Realistic muscular perspective" = no curves or feminine proportions and - most importantly - no breasts. Look at Korra and WW's flat chests. That's why they use those two examples specifically; they look like 12-year old boys. It's not because they have any muscular definition, since Korra and WW obviously don't. Don't you dare point out the reality of the world though.
LOL, when the guy says "Tits is the MOST IMPRTANT THING" about a woman's body, you know his REAL issue. I've ran a convo that I'm addressing repeatedly--I HATE using the same convo over and over and over again, but when you guys repeat the same fucking thing over and over and over again, I have no choice. Excerpted from Prior convos...have fun seeing how wrong you were... ...even Rousey has far more definition than people realize. I would imagine if they drew Rousey, it might look close to Teela and Lynn if executed correctly. Or even Meisha Tate. If you look at the pics below, it just shows these Faker Fans decrying how 'FUCKING HUGE' Teela is have lost ALL sense of Reality. :/ (Srsly; open them side-by-side on your desktop and compare.) What the REAL issue is is BAD ART by Powerhouse; they Overemphasize the Definition on Teela's muscles. It's how I tend to draw muscles on my characters, and that's NOT a good thing; I SUCK at art. The lines are too sharp and the contours DO NOT blend NOR FLOW properly. Google 'Ronda Rousey' in Images. Look at the poses of her and other female MMA superstars; muscle mass is about even, but the REAL LIFE women have the contours blending in better in any given pose. So basically, Teela has the muscle mass of a Top-Tier Female MMA Athlete. When you look at it that way, considering she has spent her LIFE fighting, the only thing you realize NOW is that it was the ORIGINAL Teela who was UN-Realistic! encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQhXacPklZW7LxFJK_hg0cvhFU4oOb0yRevQg&usqp=CAU geekanything.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Teela2.jpg
@@bigbastard3712 Wow, you absolutely *destroyed* that strawman. Did it make you feel powerful? And did your made-up fantasy world where you stood up to some MIsOgYNisT!!! who wants to murder all women everywhere finally satiate your outrage addiction? No? Still hooked to the dopamine hits on the hampster wheel of futile online activism? Well, there's gotta be more women-haters out there, so keep looking and I'm sure you'll find them. They'll probably be everywhere you look, surprisingly enough. 🤣
I could understand if Tela has muscles, she became the master-at-arms and does lots of training. But evil-lyn is a sorceress. Sorcerers don't normally need much physical power.
The funny thing is that any real sword master doesn't have the comedically overblown massively muscular physique to begin with. Edged weapons function to effectively magnify strength. Speed, precision, foot work, the ability to orient the blade properly during the stroke and place the blow accurately all matter more than brute physical strength. Properly trained, a person with the physique of, say, a sprinter or other athlete would have more than enough strength to be utterly lethal with a bladed weapon, and would have the speed, endurance and agility to effortlessly outperform any bulked out muscle mountain. The He Man type massively muscled physique, inherited from older franchises like Conan the Barbarian, was never even slightly realistic, and this most recent take conspires to be even less so.
I think it comes from the very common misconception a lot of people have that swords are way heavier than in reality. It would probably blow most people's minds to hear that a two-handed longsword weighs about 3 to 3 1/2 pounds. A sword can't weigh a lot because battles could last hours and adding more weight to move just makes it all that more exhausting. I watch Forged in Fire and one of the most common errors smiths (who tend to make knives) make is making sword too heavy.
@@fattiger6957 Exactly - even a 3 odd pound sword will start to weigh very heavily indeed when you are using it in combat for even a few minutes at a time. Combat is exhausting, and even a relatively modest weight will begin to tell very quickly. And that plays into another misconception popularised by Hollywood - the lengthy sword duel that just goes on and on, with scores of moves, strike and counter strike, lunge and parry, being exchanged for many minutes (I am looking at you, Star Wars...), when most individual combats involving edged weapons would be over very quickly, within a handful of moves, since any mistake is very likely to be your last and maintaining absolute concentration when exerting yourself to such a high degree is extremely difficult.
For more "realistic", this version should only wield blunt weapons to take advantage of his physical attributes. Either a giant sledgehammer, broadaxe, club or mace.
Geez--so much grief caused by Netflix over nothing. Why is it so hard for Netflix, Mattel or Kevin Smith to come out and have said to the fans "the rights situation is complex and split between Mattel and Universal and because of that we must change the look of the characters." The fans would have understood. Instead they stir up a hornet's nest with gratuitous lies about "realistic looks" that only serve to inflame the fans and insult their intelligence. What a cluster bomb this whole series and everything revolving around it has turned out to be.
I'm reminded of a roommate of my friends in college. He shared a big room with my buddy. He had some women from a magazine taped to his wall. My first thought was "nice". Upon further investigation however, they were super muscular, body building women. Who were indistinguishable from men. So I guess Teela was made for him? Guys who are into guys but don't realize it yet. Dude had a type for sure. I wonder where fake Nate is today?
Teela and Evil-Lyn (a Jacked-up sorceress??) look like the women kayakers in the Olympics. Those athletes, who rigorously train in a sport demanding massive upper body strength to move their boats through the water, are jacked because their sport demands it--not just because that's how women normally are.
I like how they save the Twitter replies time by posting a side-by-side that disproves the exact thing they're claiming themselves. Also, good lord, what's with all these rights snarls?
I am just shocked that people think the characters in a power fantasy look too muscular. For all we know Eternian fruits and veggies are just that anabolic- after all, in Eternia having an Olympia style physique is as common as being over six feet tall. With that in mind He-Man being the champion of all the insanely powerful characters should require him to be bigger than he was in 83- where he was the same size as the henchmen he tossed over the horizon
This "25%" different thing just slams a property into the Uncanny Valley. Close enough to look like the real thing but different, it just generates anger and loathing.
Them: “ Battle Cat sounds too aggressive, what about confrontation kitten? “ Also them: “ oh nooo! That sounds....( whispers ) scary. “ Them again: “ Fussy Feline? “ Their boss: “ Ok this meeting is now over. “
Kevin Smith would have taken a lot less negative reactions if he would have explained this. If it was changed for legal reasons that would have been understandable and more acceptable.
Netflix could have just said that in their continuity, Eternians are naturally big and jacked compared to Earth humans and be creative about it rather than boldface lie with that “realistic” nonsense.
There is another problem that gets overlooked. The famous He-Man theme, or lack thereof! When has the concept of catchy, 80's show intros become obsolete? Even worse. Netflix used the "I need a Hero" song in the trailer instead. Seriously, WTF?!!
I'm going to get grilled for this but... I train with alot of women in CrossFit, their frames almost resemble this new adaptation, of tela is a warrior there's a good chance she will be physically challenging herself all the time. Before you ask, no I didn't like this Kevin Smith take, but I don't think telas build was the issue, sloppy story telling, terrible swaps of character races and origin and constantly subverting expectations through the first 5 episodes was the where this fell flat.
Same. The physique of the women in the show didn't look that unnatural to me. I've seen non-bodybuilding women be that big; just look at that discus thrower Valarie Allman that just won US Gold in the Olympics, or like you said, any serious crossfitter with the body type that easily puts on weight. He-Man, on the other hand, looks like Escanor at noon--his shoulders are bigger than his head.
it's always funny to me when some companies / people say "more realistic" or when female character is more feminine " this body is not realistic" meanwhile in the bacground there is magic, dragons, talking plants, giants and any other fantasy stuff...like why ?
To be fair Godzilla 98 would've been a lot better had it actually got it's sequel and been the stepping stone it was meant as because the baby was intended to be much more Godzilla like, the cartoon took a lot of hints from what the sequel was supposed to be like which is why the cartoon is pretty well received.
Go to a real gym, or even CrossFit and you'll see the muscle is realistic for women who lift. The men also are realistic - if you're an IFBB pro these days.
Yeah I really don't see the problem. Evil Lynn shouldn't be jacked but other than that they all look like they should like. I'm loving super jacked IFBB pro He-Man.
Finally, someone who stopped screaming and makes some actual sense. I wondered why all the villains had suddenly chosen to go shirtless. You know, this would have been much better explained by simply saying "We will be upgrading the designs of all the characters to distinguish the new series from the original" instead of lying about wanting to be more realistic.
they must think we are stupid, for the most part only a woman who takes steroids will look like that. I mean its "realistic" (if you are genetically gifted and take steroids, how well your body responds to them. etc etc)...but its not natural. Infact some enhanced bodybuilding women grow much bigger and look more muscularly freakish than that, ive heard it even makes voice deeper. This is not always a good thing, some of these girls end up regreting it. I do hope that is not what they are actually promoting...
It's really funny how they could say that with straight face. I mean, looking at pictures they themselves presented - Teela has more muscles than Wonder Woman *and* Korra put together.
As someone who has been into bodybuilding for over 25 years and know female bodybuilders who have competed, Teelas body far more unrealistic and unhealthy than what feminists were going on about Barbie. Getting to Teelas size would likely require taking testosterone, extreme dieting and copious amounts of other shit that isn't healthy. They are literally putting out a worse expectation for women.
I absolutely love that both the men and women are muscular. There aren't enough muscular women in film/animation. I just wish there would be more He-Man
I've got no problem with the way the characters look, I just wish they made a good He-Man show that stars He-Man and isn't about pushing a woke political agenda
Yeah but, if it had a compelling plot Teela and the rest of the women would look like actual women. It sounds weird, but truth is that nobody hates the female form as much as the SJWs
@@Halfort57 you're right, I was watching an old Baywatch episode and started to think if that got made today the women would be in full body wetsuits have no tits and would have bodies shaped like men
Dammit Teela, I said Man-At-Arms, not Man-Arms.
LOL!
“She has man-hands, George”
I believe it's spelled T-La, in honour of all the T injected into her.
I LOVE the new show! But this...IS FUCKING FUNNY! xD
More like Ma'am at arms!😂😂😂😂
Remember when times were simpler? And the realistic muscular woman was Sarah Connor, just doing pull ups and stuff, looking like an absolute badass.
Good times
Unfortunately, even when Sarah Conner was changing from waitress to cyborg killer, her attraction was diminishing. Not saying it's a bad thing, since she was planning to save the world, or be a big part of saving the world, but at the cost of being less attractive.
That just makes her more admirable: sacrificing her looks for the greater good.
@@stripedrajang3571 she wasn't less attractive. Though it's funny to me that the 80s had more realistic looking people in movies than the modern era. My go to example is always Kyle Reese from terminator. Compare the original terminator. Kyle is skinny, scarred, and in general how you would expect someone living in a post apocalypse to look. Then look an terminator genesis. Kyle is buff muscler, looks like he hits the gym 4 days a week and has a healthy diet. Not to mention access to razors and shampoo. Everything in Hollywood has become idealized.
Not big muscle but detailed, it's easy to understand.
@@juliofialio4570 toned not bulky. Which is how women tend to build muscle naturally. I've known real life female bodybuilders that didn't have arms and shoulders like teela and the women I served with in the Marines were smaller than them(and would still kick the arse of 9 out of 10 men)
This certainly goes along the ideology of the liar's handbook: Deny, deny deny, attack, attack, attack. Accuse your opponents of what you're doing. Distract from your deception, deny, deny, deny.
Yes exactly and we are also in the Yuri Bezmenov's KGB handbook:
the demoralization step
Its called: DARVO. "deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender" It is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers.
@@focusedonfuture3255 Thanks, that makes sens there is definition for now common behavior.
@@focusedonfuture3255 never knew there was an acronym. I just always knew that pathological liars and abusive assholes did it alot
This also resembles what many "fans" are doing. Words are interesting aren't they?
Filmnation actually rotoscoped real life atheltes for their characthers so their argument is null and void!
Proof that these people don't do any research at all
Where as Netflix wokerscoped them.
@@darkroninmarvel It's proof they didn't even look at the pictures of their "inspirations".
@@carlrood4457 that too
Yep and Korra's women still looked like women.
Thanks to Netflix's gaslighting I learned something new and gained a new appreciation for the original He-Man series
Original has people of morals. Even Skeletor has his own set of morals. There's an episode where a little furry kid shows love to Skeletor and it melts his heart. Makes Skeletor look like a big softy. And one of the reason's fans like him.
@@urlicqeldromamakolligjazva1752 Also for how he insults his henchmen
And the 2002?
@@urlicqeldromamakolligjazva1752 Even in the He-Man and She-Ra Christmas Special, Skeletor shows how he has good in his heart when he's willing to protect Miguel, Alicia, and Relay from Horde Prime.
Never talk about christmas specials, those are products from hell.
Ah yes, “the realistic muscle defense”
Almost as effective as the “chewbaca defense”
@Greg Elchert Thank you, that made me laugh and I needed that.
"Guys! Guys! Abby eats burritos! Checkmate incels!"
Chewbacca defense? that's a new one on me
@@TahishaArvo it’s from South Park, pretty funny scene!
@@bowenc24 thanks.. i'll check that out
Honestly, if they just admitted it’s for stylistic reasons I would have been okay with it. I like to draw comics. Drawing things with Is just fun. but I mean, Common maaan, you couldn’t even come with a better excuse?
The problem is, if they are caught saying that which KS did. They are susceptible to a lawsuit or two. It will not surprise me if by the next year or so Universal file a lawsuit against Netflix. The only thing I can think Universal is not doing it right now is because of Mattel side of the contract. But after that last two years before expiration, I think something big will happen.
When they keep doing all this 25% different bs because they don't have the actual licensing rights, all it does is just erodes faith in the consumer and fans. It simply becomes a case of "Fool me once".
not only that but the resuklt of not paying for the original models is that a show over several generations wil become unreconisable because it changed for 75%
Still doesn't explain why there is no he-man in any of the story..
Sure, looks matter but it barely would have improved the series in this case.
Yeah, like veggster says, besides eroding the faith of consumers and fans, it's actually changing characters and stories so they're no longer what they are or what they were. I'm all for creativity and development, but when it's destroying original characters, myths and themes, it's creating something completely different from what it's been.
For me, a 25% difference is 100% not original characters or shows. It's something new that's either mocking them or exploiting them. It's either an attempt to replace or re-write them or to continue stories unrelated to original stories. Legal, creative, moral, ethical... whatever, 25% difference = 100% not canon, for me. Just seems a way to steal properties without having to pay for them or a way for studios to disown them entirely out of disinterest, like they're all making really bad fan films, less any of the passion or reverence.
Gory, just pay the fees, share the profits, get the permissions, whatever. If you want to tell a property's continuing story using its characters and iconography, do it properly, in a way that allows you to actually do it. Too expensive? Can't get permission? Don't tell the story, find something else.
Funny, someone else here mentioned how He-Man's based off of Conan. Can you imagine if Funimation and Mattel just did Conan stories, but 25% different? Not only would we never have had He-Man & the Masters of the Universe, we'd no longer have Conan.
Where do you get that they DON'T have "...actual licensing rights..."? The DO. I think you missed the point of the Legalities of ALL the rights... Mattel DOES have the rights, as mentioned in the video. Or I should say, Mattel does have SOME rights...as mentioned in the video!
@@bigbastard3712 Sorry, guess I wasn't clear. I'm not saying they don't have licensing rights, I'm saying the licensing rights they has to buy really suck, 'cause they turn what something is into something it's not, something that has to be different from the original, else extra royalties must be paid. Crikey, just pay 'em so you can make a really good product, an official one, in keeping with the bloody lore. Why save a buck to produce something inferior and unrecognizable? Why halve your profits like that right out of the gate?
Thing is, they have better examples than ever to draw from, since female mma stars and pro wrestlers are actually a thing. A ton of them are fit, muscular and attractive without looking like nearly immobile body builders.
@Greg Elchert - Gina Corrano isn't even that fit anymore. She always had trouble making weight when she was still fighting, and now she's nowhere near what her "fighting shape" used to be... But, yes, Gina Corrano used to be a perfect example of a fit, attractive, and capable female warrior/fighter, and she was nowhere near a big as these women are drawn to be. But then neither of those pictures of women that they say they drew inspiration from are that big either, so... 🤷🏾♂️... There's no point looking for the logic in something that is obviously not true.
Why the HELL would they use WOMEN as a TEMPLATE for the MALE MotU characters? That's INSANE! Oh, wait, you guys ONLY have problems with STEROIDAL WOMEN, NOT the MASSIVELY OVERSTEROIDED MALES OR CATS, as this show points out. Seems people only hear what they WANT to these days, despite PROOF TO THE CONTRARY! 🤷♀️
@@bigbastard3712 - Did you watch the video? The section reviewing the character designs of prior series definitely covers the fact that both the male and female characters were more reasonably proportioned previously.
@@bigbastard3712 name checks out
I don't know why studios are allergic to telling the truth. "We had to make it visually distinct for legal reasons" is MORE than enough excuse for me. I would not have been (as) upset at the changes if I knew that it was done for legal reasons.
Wait, so that's why the women's outfits in episode 1 look like they were designed by my local Pastor?
yeah. i forgave anakin for looking like a sims character and yoda looking like an aborted fetus in rebels because i think they were pretty upfront about not having the legal rights back then.
I know, right? It's like that business with Dr Strange's planned cameo in the Wandavision series getting dropped. Had they just said, "Dr Strange is such a big character we were worried he'd overshadow Wanda in her own series," I'd have accepted it as a logical, understandable argument. Then they had to toss in "mansplaining"...
Just pay for the original rights
It's amazing how Kevin Smith can look less healthy and closer to death after losing weight and getting a tan
He looks like he lost all that weight by starving, not exercising. The guy looks weak and emaciated.
Veganism: not even once.
i gues this happens when you sell youre soul.
Satan visits him every night to receive his patronage.
I miss the time he was fat, didn't say a single word and was stil a comedy genius
now he's like that one time Brian from Family guy was into running
80s series character design were rotoscoped on actual people.
That teela had a feminine design
2002 series shows teela teenaged and using a staff, hence lean and acrobatic fighting style.
My wife watched He-Man every day after school in the 1980’s. Her opinion of original feminine Teela? “She’s gorgeous.” Then I showed her the 2021 M-to-F transgender version and for the first time she understands why people get so worked up by cultural vandalism.
Cultural vandalism... that's one hell of a term and I love it. Precisely describes the situation.
Great term!
I assume there were a lot of straight women who were fans of He-Man.
@@jordil6152 ruclips.net/video/ic3wBzOEcYw/видео.html
"Cultural vandalism" I'm using this. Thanks.
I love when everyone was like "the original was rotoscoped." XD
So?
@@Halfort57 the point OP made was that it was strawmanned argument
@@JohnS-il1dr How is rotoscoping a strawman?
@@burntvirtue the claim of the original show being unrealistic is the strawman
@@burntvirtue Re watch the video. The studio was making the argument that the jacked up muscles of the characters was to make them more realistic for this version. That was countered by the fact that the original was rotoscoped using real body actors.
The opposite of positivity isn't negativity, it's apathy.
By the time part 2 comes around, no one will care... Teela and the Masters of Steroids
Tee-Man*
Apathy is death.
She’s not even that buff. What y’all talking about?
apathy is another word for sort of beeing neutral(its not exacly that i know but in this situation its an appropriate use),its not the oppaside its in the middle of possative and negative,see this is the problem today people dont know what words mean annymore.
i get what youre trying to say though.
@@Marcustheseer What a big baby you are 😂😜😂😜.
Funny the male physique is the ideal they strive for as a sign of strength...
LOL
At least one video game developer has said that recently
The attractive feminine model in whatever game this was was bulked up and androgenised because they didn't think she'd be believable as a pillar of strength and fortitude
Lesbian ultimate fantasy : men with vaginas.
@@Cunnysmythe is that Aloy
Meanwhile they try and shame real men for everything.
Its just jeliousy of the highest degree.
I understand changing a character enough to not pay an actor for their likeness. But this is some kind of BS about being able to legally make a show as long as you don't don't make a show similar to another show based on the show you paid for the rights to make.
Besides that, Netflix and K. Smith are full of $hi+.
Agreed it still isn't excuse to make He-man a side character in his own show!
Both This, the Filmation show and the 2002 show are based on the Toys. The Toys come first. That's why the Show is just called Masters of the Universe. Why is this so hard to understand?
@@Fenris30Because the designs of Heela, Andro and Evil-Him are blatant proof they don't. If they did come first, the designs would be based on what the demographic that actually buys merch likes; instead we get ones that cater to a specific demographic not known for supporting those who pander to it.
@@angrymokyuu1951 Yeah well some of us guys like a girl with a little muscle who can throw hands. I swear it's like people forget the Swords, shields, staffs and Armor have weight. Just cause you like doughy Milk Drinkers doesn't mean the rest of us do. Give me a big muscled shield maiden anyday.
So we're saddled with yet another 25% different Kelvin'esq monstrosity? No wonder it turned out to be such a dud, its NOT he-man and never was.
Those women are more like 250% different.....
Id say the overwhelming majority of the male fan base is perfectly fine with strong female leads, Wonder Woman, Stargirl, Captain Marvel, hell even the Harley Quinn animated series etc. But it's the bait , switch and agenda pushing that we don't care for.
All hail Avon, the greatest, most sarcastic TV SF character of all time. So glad nobody is rebooting Blake's 7.
God I wish they'd stop that, Netflix has enough money to be able to buy the rights to it.
@@strikeforcealpha9343 that's assuming Mattel would WANT to sell it.
Who knew….”The Power” is just a testosterone cypionate, anavar and trenbolone pre-comp stack.
Exactly! Good call
Teela: "Eat Clen, Tren Hard!
Once again, this is a prime example of someone saying, "I didn't lie!" Their "reasoning" is that they didn't say or print out anything which was technically not true. However, there was a deception, and that deception was intentional. Even more, if you notice, Kevin Smith and the crew focus on certain "talking points." They will completely avoid others such as the evidence when Kevin Smith in particular said he never liked "Masters of the Universe," but instead claimed he "was always a superfan." It's still a lie, plain and simple. This is the active choice to deceive and manipulate.
I ask this in summary. If you can prove someone said at least three lies in the span of their sales pitch, what else are they hiding? Just something to consider.
Clownfish was right. 👍
dying these days is apperently called stepping asside......
Lying and misleading someone are not too far off. Kevin Smith has not been engaging with MOTU fans in good faith.
@@RanMouri82 Indeed they were. They were also maligned and their name smeared. However, consider this -- their subscriptions went from barely 60,000 two years ago to over 225,000.
I quote from a meaningful comedy from 1986. "THEY'RE KICKING OUR BUTTS! AND IT'S NOT LUCK!"
The whole Kelvin Timeline shite in the Bad Reboot / Klutzmann fiasco was and remains a massive deception on a fanbase, that split that base into "woke" and "toxic". All because shysters loved carving up the IP rights (film and TV merchandising) into chunks that can only foster these "reimagined" abominations....
As an actual artist that specializes in anatomically accurate male musculature, I'll be the first to say you can NOT take male physique, slap a wig on it, and say it can pass for a "strong female."
The fact is these "artists" just aren't very good at what they allege to do. All they did was make a one-body-template for all characters and slapped differentiating finishing features to set them apart.
"This wasn't made for you!" Then why do they get so angry when we don't watch it?
I don't mind the jacked, and unrealistic, proportions (for all characters). The problem is the female characters in MOTUR aren't women, they're whiny and petty men with lipstick, both in their design and writing
Whinny petty men with lipstick Is the true expression of the so called "Strong Female Character" the SJWs have made into one of their golden calves. Even the live action ones played by the least attractive actresses they can cast.
Whiny and petty men? Well that pretty much sums up what I've always thought smith to be so ... it's right in his wheel house.
Tell me you have a small Twinkie without telling me you have a small Twinkie lol
@@gaybatgosqueak Nice gaslighting byatch enjoy ending alone empty and rotten inside.
@@gaybatgosqueak Man, those twinkie cakes are getting smaller each year… sure miss the day when snack still has the size that matches its package.
I Love when they claim "realism" in a series with magic, dragons, laser guns, snake people..... Yeah.... Realism is what is important 😂😂😂
I believe the term being sought here is verisimilitude. But yeah, I pick up what you’re putting down.
I still don't know why Evil-Lyn is so jacked seeing as she's a magic user. I don't think waving around a thin staff and saying magic words is supposed to make you so buff but what do I know.
My problem exactly! Teela being muscular is... not attractive but "fine". Evil Lyn looks ridiculous.
I wouldn't be surprised if they just copypasted all of the female body types. XP
That's probably a toy thing. It's cheaper to have the same body mold and just change heads
To me that shows the licencing limitations at play. Then Netflix tries to play it off with that gaslighting shown in the video.
@@BrightWulph They really do look copy-pasted.
The situation was no different in 2002, yet the appearance of female characters, altough visually diferent from the 1983 ones, was not so messed up.
So much of the problem with so many of the things coming out recently is the attitude and behavior of the people involved with it. 😑
@@Geomatzen It seems there is also a issue with females having female shaped bodies nowadays, because it's seen as exclusive. Not all females are "child bearers". So it's better to draw a "blank". At most with a little chest.
@@neutronalchemist3241 A good recent example would be the She-Ra reboot.
@@neutronalchemist3241 Or, conversely, the idea that a REAL woman has an hourglass figure, 44DDs, and long, flowing hair. The Conclusion is pretty fucking obvious in this case; not ONLY is Teela NOT a woman...NEITHER ARE ALL THE BRAVE WOMEN WHO HAVE BATTLED BREAST CANCER AND HAD FUCKING CHEMO AND MASTECTOMIES! >:( (Before you come at me, this is based on the LARGEST TWO complaints 'men' presenting these arguments have run with on forums; Teela's a 'man' because she has short hair and no tits.) Further, they keep mentioning how she is no longer 'gorgeous, beautiful, hot' etc. Meaning they can't stroke the snake to the NEW Teela.
Instead of trying to bomb Revelation, they should take their money and buy a Classic Teela figure, if that's what they so desperately crave. Not sure they have any blowup dolls of her, but the fucking income would offset the Licensing expense in a FUCKING WEEK, from what I've seen on the Forums... 🧐😏
@@bigbastard3712 Conveniently, you ignore the opinions of female fans. We are not your shields, and you are not helping. And if Teela had breast cancer, it was because of all the magical testosterone and steroid shots she's been taking.
MORE REALISTIC???? You can see how absurd that is in their own side by side photos. #BizarroWorld
What's funny is them citing Wonder Woman and Korra for their "realistic" presentation but that chick looks like she ate Wonder Woman and Korra.
Honestly, I don't have a problem with Teela having muscles since I think she was the best fighter and general of their army. But why the hell Evil-Lyn got muscles? She's a spellcaster, she's not doing hand to hand combat like the other brawlers. Also, it's funny how they bring up Wonder Woman as inspiration when Gal Gadot didn't have muscles herself in the movies.
What excuse are they going to give their mess-up of Cowboy Bee-bop, or when Teela becomes Sorceress, Andra becomes the new He-Man, or the all-mighty-foul-up of Amazon's LOTR's Series....we live in Dark Times!
Why would you mention Cowboy Bebop in the same breath as this mess?
@@keithd2284 Here's why: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_Bebop_(2021_TV_series)
Kevin Smith is such a tool these days. I have lost all respect for him.
Who cares. This drama is so boring.
@@cbalan777 Well get used to it my friend. The Feminists will not stop until their cancer has spread to everything. Have you seen the Amazon's face in the Diablo 2 remake? She literally looks like Dolph Lundgren.
He’s going to ruin clerks 3 it’s prob going to be so lame
He can still redeem himself with the upcoming Green Hornet animated series.
@@vetarlittorf1807 You think the Green Hornet series isn't going to be woke too?
Modern bodybuilding is in another league, just not the most desirable league. A lot those dudes that have gotten that big can barely wipe their own rear end without help. Because their arms are too big to flex and bend properly.
Not to mention that in order to actually look like that for competition they half-starve themselves right before. Sure they look like they could bench press a car, but they're so exhausted you could push them over with relative ease.
@@DetectiveBarricade Oh yeah they’re definitely at their weakest and most water depleted to have that shredded look. I can appreciate all of the time, work and most importantly energy that it takes to compete but they’ve gotten so far from a ideal body composition to where they look like slabs of beef. But also, where do you go after Arnold’s era? You go bigger, just not necessarily better.
Those Muscles are meaningless if you can't actually use them
@@GartheKnightReturns No one should be aiming for a body like that infamous Rob Liefeld Captain America drawing.
Classic bodybuilders Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ronnie Coleman both express their disdain for the modern style. Bodybuilding in the 1970's and 1980's was also steroid driven but the ideal was still fundamentally fitness, symmetry, and balance. They both scoff at these modern bodybuilders and say none of them would have made it onto the stage. They're unfit, unbalanced, and look terrible. Huge for its own sake isn't the same thing as quality.
I love this channel. It's one of the few channels I'll let the ads play through.
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*>vIsUaLlY AnD LeGaLlY DiStInCt*
This is Star Trek all over again.
That Filmation/Midnights Edge intro always gets me.
We live in a world beyond consequences, and it will be our well deserved destruction.
Bit too edgy and hyperbolic there mate.
Wow, I think I cut myself on that edge. :D
thats only haf true,the public gets the consequences its just that the people in power dont they can do as they plz,and thats the problem democricy is dying and tyrants are taking over.
It’s no wonder god has strucked the world in the past sigh 😔
Why everyone is so jacked. Except Prince Adam. Because that's how he's 25% different.
Thanks for this video! I'm way more interested in your account of the story behind the scenes than I am in the new MoTU series. Battlecat jacked up like Belgian Blue, LOL.
As for this mess... Wow. Everyone laughed at Skeletor when he went back to school to become a copyright lawyer, but he showed them all!
So, to be able to do a show with those characters, you have to make them look different (> 25%) and in doing so, you're killing the franchise. Good job guys! 🤮
They say intelligence is the capacity to make things simpler; in all likelihood, Kevin Smith and Netflix don't qualify. 🤦♂️
Yep. Honestly Universal should do a legitimate Direct Sequel after Revalations is pver.
the problem with this 25% rule is 2-3 generations later youre charc are barely reconisable,netflix is just beeing cheap not wanting to pay to use original models.
@@Marcustheseer It should be simple enough, you do the show the right way in respecting the fans, the history and the characters OR don't do it at all!
@@Marcustheseer 'netflix is just beeing cheap not wanting to pay to use original models.' And as a result, they've created a disaster which is damaging for them. 🤦♂️
@@Age_of_Apocalypse The disaster doesn't primarily come from the appearance of the characters, more like from the "disappearance" of some of them from the story for the sake of agendas.
Ironically most of the animated series from the 70's and 80's featured realistically proportioned characters, it wasn't until much, much later they started giving us sponges, stick figures and blobs.
Everyone is so buff, not exactly body positive is it?
they be trying for easily indoctinable, replacement men. a.k.a butch army.
they're masters of the universe, they shouldn't look like us couchpotatoes man
@@utuber1360 welcome to sarcasm 🎉
@@utuber1360 The women shouldn't look like dudes though, even if you're into that kinda shit.
@@TwiStedReality1313 aliens are aliens
I’d heard a little bit about the legal issues surrounding MOTU:R and the old series but it’s nice to see someone bring them up. Even if we don’t know the details we do know that there are issues. Liked, Subbed, and even hit the bell. Really can’t wait for more info from y’all.
I love how Andre worked ian abomination into the script. Nice editing job Tom. I'm trying to learn from your editing.
After they kill off Bravestarr in the first episode of "New Texas", I wonder how big Judge JB McBride's muscles will be.
And anyone who's watched Dorohedoro will know you can have massive muscle women who are fantastic, likeable characters. Even here, Evil-Lyn has the same build (why though, she's a mage?) and just comes across better.
I don't think they would kill him. Simply becsuse he isn't a white man, but they sure as hell would find an excuse to permanently sideline him
@@Halfort57as the iconic star of the show (as iconic to it as He-Man), I expect if it went ahead there would be some licensing rules that apply to him more strictly. Less screen time and the main character being "dead" may distance itself enough for licensing purposes, whatever they might be.
This is probably the real reason why He-Man was killed off in episode 1 as well, not to milk fanboy tears or whatever.
woke pointa are over 9000!!
Bet they will go "even further beyond" 😏😉
Fact: Gal Gadot, the IRL actress of Wonder Woman, a former IDF Sergeant who originally enlisted as a combat fitness instructor, doesn't look jacked at all in her role. To be jacked like that as a woman, you either have to take lots of steroids, or be a professional body builder. A woman will never be organically as jacked as Netflix wants to make us believe.
Look up japanese muscle idols. They just pump iron and drink protein shakes. They're jacked yet still looked feminine
unless that woman is a man identifying as a woman lul
It's a cartoon bro. Not real life. Teela looks exactly like she should. He-Man is literally 4 times her size. I think it's awesome. I'm 43 and grew up watching the original.
3:05 Today I learned the Filmation He-Man series used rotoscoping.
So Star Trek has the Kelvin Timeline while He-man has the Kevin Timeline LOL :P
The pieces about the nuts and bolts of the industry is what drew me to ME. I’m glad they still do that. Otherwise, this would be yet another channel with screaming nerd rage that I’d turn off.
Educative analysis.
It makes some kind of sense. Reading about times going back to the original Star Trek, I have been surprised about how conscious they were about not making a TV program too similar to what could be claimed under IP laws at the time. It does, indeed, appear, very restrictive.
I think “realistic” and “unrealistic” are code for breasts nowadays. Revelation shows obvious inspiration from Gal Godot in that area (and Arnold Schwarzenegger for the rest of the female characters’ bodies.)
Sad thing is a large chest isn't unrealistic and is easier to get naturally and more common that the "female" body these people want women to have.
@@marikroyals7111 I believe the term comes from the fact that it’s not terribly realistic to expect all the women in a story to be genetically predisposed to put tons of fat on there and nowhere else.
It’s because hideous land whales are jealous that they can’t get big boobs no matter how many slabs of cheesecake they stuff in their gobs.
Damn, this is a really good informative video that answered a lot of questions! You just earned yourself a subscriber! (Although I think I already was a RUclips is unsubscribing people at random.)
while i find the possible reason for the character designs interesting, i dont really mind the exaggerated aesthetics in masters of the universe. Bait and switch advertisements and teela's character development among others are issues i have with the netflix cartoon.
Netflix obviously think the ladies need to take enough synthetic testosterone to start transitioning.
Kevin Smith DID actually at one time say that the show was a DIRECT continuation of the original show. If you go back and listen to the panel he did at PowerCon like 3 years ago, he says this. Something tells me Powerhouse needed to have a talk with him about his wording. This whole thing about the copyrights being in flux is news to me. Everything makes a lot more sense now.
How cute. They hide behind the argument of artistic integrity to excuse the cold hard reality of Rights Wrangling as if anyone truly would believe that artistry was ever a cause for any changes made to long standing character designs.
They should have just been adults about this and just been upfront with the reasoning behind the changes.
As boring as it sounds for others, I love hearing and learning about copyrights, claims, and stuff like that. After learning about star trek, I at least understand all the changes even though I don't agree with any of them.
Love the channel. Great video as always. Thanks.
"Realistic muscular perspective" = no curves or feminine proportions and - most importantly - no breasts. Look at Korra and WW's flat chests. That's why they use those two examples specifically; they look like 12-year old boys. It's not because they have any muscular definition, since Korra and WW obviously don't. Don't you dare point out the reality of the world though.
LOL, when the guy says "Tits is the MOST IMPRTANT THING" about a woman's body, you know his REAL issue. I've ran a convo that I'm addressing repeatedly--I HATE using the same convo over and over and over again, but when you guys repeat the same fucking thing over and over and over again, I have no choice. Excerpted from Prior convos...have fun seeing how wrong you were...
...even Rousey has far more definition than people realize. I would imagine if they drew Rousey, it might look close to Teela and Lynn if executed correctly. Or even Meisha Tate. If you look at the pics below, it just shows these Faker Fans decrying how 'FUCKING HUGE' Teela is have lost ALL sense of Reality. :/ (Srsly; open them side-by-side on your desktop and compare.)
What the REAL issue is is BAD ART by Powerhouse; they Overemphasize the Definition on Teela's muscles. It's how I tend to draw muscles on my characters, and that's NOT a good thing; I SUCK at art. The lines are too sharp and the contours DO NOT blend NOR FLOW properly. Google 'Ronda Rousey' in Images. Look at the poses of her and other female MMA superstars; muscle mass is about even, but the REAL LIFE women have the contours blending in better in any given pose. So basically, Teela has the muscle mass of a Top-Tier Female MMA Athlete. When you look at it that way, considering she has spent her LIFE fighting, the only thing you realize NOW is that it was the ORIGINAL Teela who was UN-Realistic!
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@@bigbastard3712 Wow, you absolutely *destroyed* that strawman. Did it make you feel powerful? And did your made-up fantasy world where you stood up to some MIsOgYNisT!!! who wants to murder all women everywhere finally satiate your outrage addiction? No? Still hooked to the dopamine hits on the hampster wheel of futile online activism? Well, there's gotta be more women-haters out there, so keep looking and I'm sure you'll find them. They'll probably be everywhere you look, surprisingly enough. 🤣
I could understand if Tela has muscles, she became the master-at-arms and does lots of training. But evil-lyn is a sorceress. Sorcerers don't normally need much physical power.
The funny thing is that any real sword master doesn't have the comedically overblown massively muscular physique to begin with. Edged weapons function to effectively magnify strength. Speed, precision, foot work, the ability to orient the blade properly during the stroke and place the blow accurately all matter more than brute physical strength. Properly trained, a person with the physique of, say, a sprinter or other athlete would have more than enough strength to be utterly lethal with a bladed weapon, and would have the speed, endurance and agility to effortlessly outperform any bulked out muscle mountain. The He Man type massively muscled physique, inherited from older franchises like Conan the Barbarian, was never even slightly realistic, and this most recent take conspires to be even less so.
I have been waiting for someone to say this.
not even guts is built like those hunks, and he literally is using long piece of somewhat flat metal as a sword.
I think it comes from the very common misconception a lot of people have that swords are way heavier than in reality. It would probably blow most people's minds to hear that a two-handed longsword weighs about 3 to 3 1/2 pounds. A sword can't weigh a lot because battles could last hours and adding more weight to move just makes it all that more exhausting.
I watch Forged in Fire and one of the most common errors smiths (who tend to make knives) make is making sword too heavy.
@@fattiger6957 Exactly - even a 3 odd pound sword will start to weigh very heavily indeed when you are using it in combat for even a few minutes at a time. Combat is exhausting, and even a relatively modest weight will begin to tell very quickly. And that plays into another misconception popularised by Hollywood - the lengthy sword duel that just goes on and on, with scores of moves, strike and counter strike, lunge and parry, being exchanged for many minutes (I am looking at you, Star Wars...), when most individual combats involving edged weapons would be over very quickly, within a handful of moves, since any mistake is very likely to be your last and maintaining absolute concentration when exerting yourself to such a high degree is extremely difficult.
For more "realistic", this version should only wield blunt weapons to take advantage of his physical attributes. Either a giant sledgehammer, broadaxe, club or mace.
Geez--so much grief caused by Netflix over nothing. Why is it so hard for Netflix, Mattel or Kevin Smith to come out and have said to the fans "the rights situation is complex and split between Mattel and Universal and because of that we must change the look of the characters." The fans would have understood. Instead they stir up a hornet's nest with gratuitous lies about "realistic looks" that only serve to inflame the fans and insult their intelligence. What a cluster bomb this whole series and everything revolving around it has turned out to be.
The more they talk, they more i hate this show and netflix.
I'm reminded of a roommate of my friends in college. He shared a big room with my buddy. He had some women from a magazine taped to his wall. My first thought was "nice". Upon further investigation however, they were super muscular, body building women. Who were indistinguishable from men. So I guess Teela was made for him? Guys who are into guys but don't realize it yet. Dude had a type for sure. I wonder where fake Nate is today?
Teela and Evil-Lyn (a Jacked-up sorceress??) look like the women kayakers in the Olympics. Those athletes, who rigorously train in a sport demanding massive upper body strength to move their boats through the water, are jacked because their sport demands it--not just because that's how women normally are.
And because 90% of elite athletes use performance enhancing drugs, they just cycle off before testing.
I like how they save the Twitter replies time by posting a side-by-side that disproves the exact thing they're claiming themselves.
Also, good lord, what's with all these rights snarls?
I am just shocked that people think the characters in a power fantasy look too muscular. For all we know Eternian fruits and veggies are just that anabolic- after all, in Eternia having an Olympia style physique is as common as being over six feet tall. With that in mind He-Man being the champion of all the insanely powerful characters should require him to be bigger than he was in 83- where he was the same size as the henchmen he tossed over the horizon
So it's still a lie to say it looks that way for the sake of realism?
I just wish we could get a bluray re-release of the 2000 He-Man series, I love that version 😢
Are you trying to tell us that Teela and the others are on some magical steroids?
I thought that "realistic women" now meant fat. They keep changing these things.
I dont understand why women can't just play on women's strengths .. quit trying to be men
This "25%" different thing just slams a property into the Uncanny Valley.
Close enough to look like the real thing but different, it just generates anger and loathing.
Good point about the Uncanny Valley.
"... designing the women with a more REALISTIC muscular prespective.."
Because all the roto-scoped animation was not realistic enough.
Bit of a stretch with the female mass monster. They're not that far, but I get your point. They certain are not more representative of women at large
There is acway to do this respectfully, like the Mike Young series. No need to throw out the baby with the bathwater
Them: “ Battle Cat sounds too aggressive, what about confrontation kitten? “
Also them: “ oh nooo! That sounds....( whispers ) scary. “
Them again: “ Fussy Feline? “
Their boss: “ Ok this meeting is now over. “
Kevin Smith would have taken a lot less negative reactions if he would have explained this. If it was changed for legal reasons that would have been understandable and more acceptable.
This is the most informative video on MOTU and Revelations so far. 👌
Netflix could have just said that in their continuity, Eternians are naturally big and jacked compared to Earth humans and be creative about it rather than boldface lie with that “realistic” nonsense.
There is another problem that gets overlooked. The famous He-Man theme, or lack thereof! When has the concept of catchy, 80's show intros become obsolete? Even worse. Netflix used the "I need a Hero" song in the trailer instead. Seriously, WTF?!!
I'm going to get grilled for this but... I train with alot of women in CrossFit, their frames almost resemble this new adaptation, of tela is a warrior there's a good chance she will be physically challenging herself all the time. Before you ask, no I didn't like this Kevin Smith take, but I don't think telas build was the issue, sloppy story telling, terrible swaps of character races and origin and constantly subverting expectations through the first 5 episodes was the where this fell flat.
Same. The physique of the women in the show didn't look that unnatural to me. I've seen non-bodybuilding women be that big; just look at that discus thrower Valarie Allman that just won US Gold in the Olympics, or like you said, any serious crossfitter with the body type that easily puts on weight.
He-Man, on the other hand, looks like Escanor at noon--his shoulders are bigger than his head.
I think the people complaining have never been in a gym or ever lifted a weight.
it's always funny to me when some companies / people say "more realistic" or when female character is more feminine " this body is not realistic" meanwhile in the bacground there is magic, dragons, talking plants, giants and any other fantasy stuff...like why ?
I just assumed Kevin had a weird *”Musclewoman”* fetish....
Are we *100% sure* that’s not the actual reason why they’re all *YOKED up?* 🤣
This is how copyright laws limit and strangle creativity.
Feeding that pesky algorithm
Does netflix think I should have bigger muscles? I like being thin, healthy, and feminine.
I notice how "realistic" is used to justify bad storytelling:
Zilla '98
Bayformers
Now this.
To be fair Godzilla 98 would've been a lot better had it actually got it's sequel and been the stepping stone it was meant as because the baby was intended to be much more Godzilla like, the cartoon took a lot of hints from what the sequel was supposed to be like which is why the cartoon is pretty well received.
@@redacted1093 okay
Loving your MoTU videos, keep them coming!
Go to a real gym, or even CrossFit and you'll see the muscle is realistic for women who lift.
The men also are realistic - if you're an IFBB pro these days.
Yeah I really don't see the problem. Evil Lynn shouldn't be jacked but other than that they all look like they should like. I'm loving super jacked IFBB pro He-Man.
Finally, someone who stopped screaming and makes some actual sense. I wondered why all the villains had suddenly chosen to go shirtless. You know, this would have been much better explained by simply saying "We will be upgrading the designs of all the characters to distinguish the new series from the original" instead of lying about wanting to be more realistic.
Old heman was royal scoped. They were actually real
rotoscoped?
@@ScaryStoriesNYC Rotoscoping is an animation technique that animators use to trace over motion picture footage
Take a vid of you.
Trace over the top.
they must think we are stupid, for the most part only a woman who takes steroids will look like that. I mean its "realistic" (if you are genetically gifted and take steroids, how well your body responds to them. etc etc)...but its not natural. Infact some enhanced bodybuilding women grow much bigger and look more muscularly freakish than that, ive heard it even makes voice deeper. This is not always a good thing, some of these girls end up regreting it. I do hope that is not what they are actually promoting...
It's really funny how they could say that with straight face. I mean, looking at pictures they themselves presented - Teela has more muscles than Wonder Woman *and* Korra put together.
As someone who has been into bodybuilding for over 25 years and know female bodybuilders who have competed, Teelas body far more unrealistic and unhealthy than what feminists were going on about Barbie. Getting to Teelas size would likely require taking testosterone, extreme dieting and copious amounts of other shit that isn't healthy. They are literally putting out a worse expectation for women.
Teela's squeeze is actually a guy, come back and say I told you so later
I absolutely love that both the men and women are muscular. There aren't enough muscular women in film/animation.
I just wish there would be more He-Man
Good video.
I can't wait for the gym episode of the show were we see everyone getting their pump on. Bet Evil-Lyn can press like 300 easy.
MOTU:R = not canon !
Women throughout history have never had that kind of musculature, it can only be achieved in real life with constant gym workouts and hormones.
I've got no problem with the way the characters look, I just wish they made a good He-Man show that stars He-Man and isn't about pushing a woke political agenda
Yeah but, if it had a compelling plot Teela and the rest of the women would look like actual women. It sounds weird, but truth is that nobody hates the female form as much as the SJWs
@@Halfort57 you're right, I was watching an old Baywatch episode and started to think if that got made today the women would be in full body wetsuits have no tits and would have bodies shaped like men