Do Schools Spy on Students' Laptops? | Gaggle AI Student Surveillance
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Student safety (aka, "Think of the Children!") just seems to be a code phrase for an unnecessary intervention into private spaces to solve a problem that doesn't exist (or that would not be corrected by the intervention). A software pushed by the school that monitors student activity during tests - borderline fine. A software pushed by the school that is constantly monitoring the student (and their family) 24/7 for non-school related activities - not fine. The fact that this school-mandated intrusion into private spaces, coupled with a breakdown in people's right to privacy (at least in the U.S.) and the potential impact posed to already marginalized and targeted groups, just make this seem like steep slope of bad ideas.
Students absolutely should be informed, crazy how it’s legal that they are not
And it's creepy too because they can see everything and every single thing I always used to feel like I'm being watched even when I'm alone I always feel suspicious especially when alone
I feel that if a clear benefit can't be shown by the surveillance then it is a net harm. There have been many instances of surveillance causing great harm. Surveillance is a powerful tool and it should have clear ethical oversight.
You can't just observe the subject and assume you're not changing the environment. We're being primed at having someone listen in on every conversation at such an early age.
The people pushing for it have a clear profit motive, and the people whose freedom is being diminished don't have a say in what is being done to them. How is that not a clear answer?
DOJ Garland's son in law founded an SEL curriculum company.
Conflict of interest.
When parents started pushing back on what was being taught to their children and other people's kids...that their daughters had no privacy and were scared.
Garland ok'd investigations into those parents. Social media scanned by law enforcement.
School Board Assoc had written a letter to President Biden or DOJ-
Used the term terrorist in their letter about people dissent at their meetings about their agenda. Don't question or confront our agenda.
San Francisco recalled 3.
I dont see many positive coming out from such massive invasion of privacy. Yes you may be able to prevent harm but the risk of outing someone, of causing a negative event by forcing a none needed intervention and the risk of misinterpreting stuff are in my opinion far bigger then the chance that it might be helpful. And thats not even talking about the topic of private messages being open to review without a warrant by a non state actor without oversight beyond what the company has. ... deep and dark rabbit hole ... i wonder if they have something similar in the EU or it collided against the privacy rights here.
I'm really interested in this topic as member of my local school board - I want to do what I can to protect our kids freedom to privacy while also figuring out what parameters are necessary to keep them safe - but really I think what's going to keep kids safe is having good adults around that kids trust and who they're willing to talk to about what's going on in their life. I don't think any amount of surveillance will be able to replace building relationships, even if AI systems like this might be able to indicate who needs help.
Real panopticon hours
First I would like to say thank you for this video I am a fan of your page I am also a single father of six children three girls three boys some of my children are homeschooled some attend public schools but I agree with everything you said in this video. I am definitely going to go check out the unedited video 👍🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿☺️
thanks for looking in to this. disturbing that there's no clear data showing any benefit, and most students who are loaned/given these computers probably don't have the choice to opt out. thanks again!
In the US, schools have to do at least some content filtering for e-rate funding. Also, if schools don't do everything they can, the moment something happens, the pitch forks come out. Employers do the same thing.
My school just uses my personal info and basically makes it so I cannot do hardly anything except like change my profile pic. It auto locks extensions and it auto locks more than 8/9 settings are locked. If someone hacks the district then that's 2000+ elementary students personal info and location viewed by a random hacker. I also don't feel comfortable giving my personal information to people I don't know and being locked by it, I don't like it at all, some hacker could just know my location and my phone number, birthday, full name, etc. I really think this is awful.
Depending on context, yes. I work on school IT systems, we have the power and rights to survey student usage for safeguarding reasons, though, in the UK at least, this AI system wouldn't be allowed in most contexts
Doesn't surprise me if/when they do.
The main problem with systems like this (IMO) is that it's basically impossible to remove our biases from them since they are ultimately constructed and shaped by humans. Rules should always be evaluated by their ability to oppress, and the ability for these systems to oppress without the creators even noticing is a huge oversight.
Electrical tape over camera is really difficult to hack remotely. LOL
Blocking access to files on devices is another story.
It's a school-owned laptop. Teachers' laptops are also completely surveilled and there are laws in my state that allow a teacher's phone to be subpeona'd just for having been logged into school email. There is a ton of legislation around this and schools can and will be held accountable legally for student activity on their devices. If you have a problem with schools surveilling their own devices, then pass laws to protect schools from litigation from parents and children. Seriously, local schools do not want to do this, but it's the compromise to be able to continue to allow students to take technology home in an extremely litigious system.
Can't students just decide not to use the school laptops? (Assuming they have their own computers, of course, which most students do - and those that don't can get for super cheap). Like, if I as a student were aware of this, I'd never touch my school laptop and unplug the battery lol.
Yes, it's a school-owned laptop. Teachers' laptops are also completely surveilled and there are laws in my state that allow a teacher's phone to be subpeona'd just for having been logged into school email. There is a ton of legislation around this and schools can and will be held accountable legally for student activity on their devices. If you have a problem with schools surveilling their own devices, then pass laws to protect schools from litigation from parents and children. Seriously, local schools do not want to do this, but it's the compromise to be able to continue to allow students to take technology home in an extremely litigious system.