Im chinese but i learmed to HATE chinese secrecy. It has already killed so many secret kung fu techniques, being the grappling techs the most top secret of them all
If read Robert W. Smith books Chinese boxing masters and methods published in 1974,he mentions this style and many other rare Kung styles wish was unheard of at that time.I highly recommend that book for reading.
This style is sadly, tragically dying out... I really wish I had the resources to go and learn it before it's too late! I want desperately for this style to be preserved, and would consider it a great honor if I could be the one to pass it on. It's like BJJ but for actual self defense rather than sport.
Yeah there has been that article about that one guy practicing Dog style which is supposedly dying out. Realistically last master of a dying tradition makes a great headline but it's not exactly true. There are four lines of dog boxing. The Chen Yijiu line is doing better than the majority of arts in Fuzhou, the other three are not doing that great but two of them still have a few schools and one of them is dying or basically dead. This video is mostly Chen Yijiu and Yi Xiang lineage stuff, there are pretty well known schools in Fuzhou still teaching both of them. The Yi Xiang stuff is not at all as common and the one major school that teaches it also teaches some Chen Yijiu stuff with it so maybe as a pure lineage it's hard to find. The Zhuang family style in Quanzhou teaches Dog Boxing alongside some Luohan and Wu Mei Hua Quan and they still have a decent number of students. Although In some ways their dog boxing lineage has kind of become a side course from what I hear. The fact is that there are tons of styles that are dying out. Mostly because people only have any interest in styles like dog boxing that already have brand name recognition. I'm not trying to discourage you from learning it but if you have some dream of becoming the sole inheritor of some ancient system the reality is you are going to be far back in line behind the dozens of westerners who have already been studying and teaching dog boxing from the various major schools for decades already, not to mention the dozens of Chinese senior teachers.
Tea Serpent that's good to know, and no, I did not have some grandiose dream of being "sole inheritor" or any such thing, I just really appreciate the art and did not want to see it lost or forgotten.
Well if you had there are countless other styles that are literally down to a single teacher with no students at all. But none of them are going to have the brand recognition that dog boxing does. Also by the time a style gets to that point it is often, but not necessarily, in pretty bad shape anyway with large chunks of the tradition already lost. The dog boxing thing is also complicated by there being four different lineages each with different forms and oral mythologies. The problem is that things like performance versions of dog boxing have become very popular and have influenced some of the schools, the fact that some of them are teaching mixes of the different lines, or teaching dog boxing more as a side area of study. So you the stuff in a lot of schools has been watered down or mixed with performance sets or with material from other styles. Also you have the promotion of a single mythological narrative of the most popular school which has become the standard and is replacing the traditional mythological narratives in many of the other schools. Then again that narrative is largely based on 20th century Wuxia fiction and so it's probably more suited for modern tastes. But all of those things are things that tons of if not most Chinese styles are facing. Mixing with material from other styles, performance wushu influencing the teaching and physical techniques, revision of mythological narratives with material from relatively recent martial arts fantasy fiction etc. Which is to say dog boxing as a whole is doing pretty well but some of the individual styles of dog boxing are not doing so well. Actually the dog boxing schools are doing the best by far out of the various traditional styles known for having a particular emphasis on ground boxing. But ground boxing in Chinese martial arts has been on decline for a good century now.
My Sifu actually teaches this. I'm learning it right now! It's really fun and effective when you understand how to attack your opponents balancing points/foundation.
Im chinese but i learmed to HATE chinese secrecy. It has already killed so many secret kung fu techniques, being the grappling techs the most top secret of them all
I agree.
Taichi is grappling mostly... at least the first tear of training.
If read Robert W. Smith books Chinese boxing masters and methods published in 1974,he mentions this style and many other rare Kung styles wish was unheard of at that time.I highly recommend that book for reading.
This style is sadly, tragically dying out... I really wish I had the resources to go and learn it before it's too late! I want desperately for this style to be preserved, and would consider it a great honor if I could be the one to pass it on.
It's like BJJ but for actual self defense rather than sport.
Yeah there has been that article about that one guy practicing Dog style which is supposedly dying out. Realistically last master of a dying tradition makes a great headline but it's not exactly true.
There are four lines of dog boxing. The Chen Yijiu line is doing better than the majority of arts in Fuzhou, the other three are not doing that great but two of them still have a few schools and one of them is dying or basically dead.
This video is mostly Chen Yijiu and Yi Xiang lineage stuff, there are pretty well known schools in Fuzhou still teaching both of them. The Yi Xiang stuff is not at all as common and the one major school that teaches it also teaches some Chen Yijiu stuff with it so maybe as a pure lineage it's hard to find. The Zhuang family style in Quanzhou teaches Dog Boxing alongside some Luohan and Wu Mei Hua Quan and they still have a decent number of students. Although In some ways their dog boxing lineage has kind of become a side course from what I hear.
The fact is that there are tons of styles that are dying out. Mostly because people only have any interest in styles like dog boxing that already have brand name recognition.
I'm not trying to discourage you from learning it but if you have some dream of becoming the sole inheritor of some ancient system the reality is you are going to be far back in line behind the dozens of westerners who have already been studying and teaching dog boxing from the various major schools for decades already, not to mention the dozens of Chinese senior teachers.
Tea Serpent that's good to know, and no, I did not have some grandiose dream of being "sole inheritor" or any such thing, I just really appreciate the art and did not want to see it lost or forgotten.
Well if you had there are countless other styles that are literally down to a single teacher with no students at all.
But none of them are going to have the brand recognition that dog boxing does.
Also by the time a style gets to that point it is often, but not necessarily, in pretty bad shape anyway with large chunks of the tradition already lost.
The dog boxing thing is also complicated by there being four different lineages each with different forms and oral mythologies.
The problem is that things like performance versions of dog boxing have become very popular and have influenced some of the schools, the fact that some of them are teaching mixes of the different lines, or teaching dog boxing more as a side area of study.
So you the stuff in a lot of schools has been watered down or mixed with performance sets or with material from other styles.
Also you have the promotion of a single mythological narrative of the most popular school which has become the standard and is replacing the traditional mythological narratives in many of the other schools.
Then again that narrative is largely based on 20th century Wuxia fiction and so it's probably more suited for modern tastes.
But all of those things are things that tons of if not most Chinese styles are facing.
Mixing with material from other styles, performance wushu influencing the teaching and physical techniques, revision of mythological narratives with material from relatively recent martial arts fantasy fiction etc.
Which is to say dog boxing as a whole is doing pretty well but some of the individual styles of dog boxing are not doing so well.
Actually the dog boxing schools are doing the best by far out of the various traditional styles known for having a particular emphasis on ground boxing.
But ground boxing in Chinese martial arts has been on decline for a good century now.
Rae Heskett Bro It is good style and solid, I too want to learn it, very good for defense.
I say learn what you can
I'm really interested in ground boxing. according to some legends my Stil (Tang Lang Chuan) had some ground boxing forms as well.
Nice, very little have I found on the internet on this style.
this is such a cool style! Would love to learn it.
Do you have a date when this video was made?
I tried to learn it from a book. Fukien ground boxing. Check my video. Watch the throne backyard training ep 1 .
are you better now in ground boxing
My Sifu actually teaches this. I'm learning it right now! It's really fun and effective when you understand how to attack your opponents balancing points/foundation.
Like some Kung fu brazilian jiu jitsu, very interesting!
外国朋友么，这种武术国人都很少学！
Adoro descobrir ñovos estiĺos
subtitles please
muay tai is better
good luck not be leg locked by kung fu guys.
Fuck u pencak silat is better
And it's not about the style it's about how u use it
keisuke185 comparing a purely stand up striking and a strike from the ground style are we.
There are choke out and some ground wrestling moves in dog boxing. Muay thai falls short of this.