Thanks for the detailed review on the 25L version. Something worth noting is the 18L version (which is the one I bought, and the one I assume is more popular) has some inconsistencies with the 25L you're reviewing, and these inconsistencies aren't mentioned on the website! 18L has no side handle, no key holder, no bottom external latch points. None of these missing features are a deal breaker for me so I personally don't have buyer's remorse, but anyone looking at the 18L version may want to take this into account.
Thank you! This was important to know because I was thinking of buying the 18L. I have external straps on another bag I own, and never use them (and I bought it with using them in mind, I hate the bag though because the backstraps NEVER stay in place after adjusted for my height) so I don't think it's an issue... buuuut I'm also very picky and probably will use it for a hoodie. The key holder, though, is integral. I'll never use the handle. It's so weird because they're so transparent in their marketing, why not say that on the website?! Although, the images are slightly different and it's still on pre-order. The image doesn't feature the bottom straps or handle but the key pocket seems to be there.
@@Nomads.Nation Humble in sharing the success as well 👍 I think your channel has potential to explode, but maybe a couple limiters at play. How often are people shopping for bags? Once every few years maybe. If you can tie in topics to keep people interested more often, excellent. Second, the cursing kinda marginalizes some people, no? It shouldn't matter, I know, but I don't make the rules.
@@Nomads.Nation Being in Hong Kong and Vietnam, there seems many side topics Americans would be interested to see. How about visiting one of the many Hong Kong bazaars for knick-knack shopping where a bag may come in handy. What is it like to grocery shop in Hong Kong? Save some plastic and take a bag! How about an overnight stay-cation? Of course packing your items in one of the many great choice bags. An overnighter may not sound interesting until you showcase one of the grand Kowloon hotels that still have bell hops reminiscent of the early 20th century.
I've had this bag for about 4 months, and I have fallen in love with it as my EDC. I tend to be heavy in the tech I carry, but I love that I can carry everything I need whilst knowing its protected. The false bottom is padded in some type of foam which gives me a lot of confidence that my electronics will be protected if I drop my bag. I like to use the rear section as my laptop, tablet, and document carry, and the main volume for bulky items like clothes/shoes.
I have this backpack since February. It has a solid build and keeps my laptop protected, but it is HEAVY! Its weight makes me hesitate to grab it whenever I go out. And because it's heavy, it makes the luggage strap hard to use; especially, when I was trying to unload it from my luggage.
I realized that I watch a crap load of your vids but have not subscribed. long time overdue on this random video (but great as always). Subscribed!! Keep up the great work!
ha, a bit yea! But their lid (like all lids like this) leads to the main compartment. The Fyro lid will be the only one that leads to a quick access front admin compartment (that will also be lockable 😉)
This IMO is a perfect design for a backpack that can transition between EDC and couple of days travel The Bellroy Venture is another good backpack of the same ilk. What Mous gets right is that the laptop is a separate compartment. What it gets wrong is the weight and over engineering. Overall this is the style of backpack I'd get if it has a better brain pocket (like the Bellroy) and a mesh water bottle pouch..and while we are at it increase volume by 3-4 liters will make it a perfect weeklong travel pack
Something i did check though is that the 25l is just small enough for overhead carry on airlines, which is prolly why they didnt make it a bit larger, and the 18l is also an option for a smaller bag
Genuinely really impressed with this, especially for a bag which is new to the market and not a huge name in the backpack game. Using materials and zips top of the game! Impressive!
Yooo!!! Awesome review as always. So glad you were able to do this. Definitely the only review anyone will ever need. Really makes me want to get one now, however i am waiting to see how the Fyro backpack turns out. Personally i think with helping in the decision process of the Fyro bag will make me get that bag instead. But this review really makes me want the Mous bag now lol. Hopefully you'll also be able to do a review on the Mous sling, as there are almost no reviews on it. Would greatly appreciate it. As always, killin it with the reviews!!
@@Nomads.Nation that would definitely be awesome to see! And i think if it turned out to be the sling for me, I'll be more likely to get that sling and rock the Fyro backpack for those bigger haul days out and about. Although I'm stuck on the modern dayfare sling as well base on your review 🤔
I have a backpack that on the back section it has a hidden pocket directly in the middle in between the two should padding cushions, which has a pull out long wallet to hold passports & a couple credit cards on one side with a zippered pocket to hold cash on the opposite side… it’s nice that it’s on the back as it would never get used unless the bag is taken off… I think it’s the best pocket ever to have on a backpack
Can take or leave the back pocket for me, but nice to have if it’s there. I’m getting more skeptical of the designated air tag pockets, because if the bag is stolen, it’s the first place a thief knows to look to get rid of it. While it’s not super conspicuous, they’re not not that hard to spot either.
Between this and the AER City Pack Pro, which would you recommend as a mostly EDC? Grad school / working professional + some occasional travel. I really like both in terms of design. I like the weather resistance, security, & inner linings of the Mous, but it’s heavier & it seems like the back panel/shoulder straps aren’t as comfortable as the AER (not sure on this though). I’m leaning towards the AER since it’s lighter, has a better layout for easy access, seems to have more comfortable straps/back panel, plus it’s cheaper. The main con for me is it’s not as weather proof, but since the laptop section has an aqua guard zipper I feel like that’s manageable. And I think the AER nylon has a fair level of water resistance too. (I don’t want to get the XPAC version because of the orange lining lol). I’d love to hear what you think between these two bags. I really wish I could see both of these before buying, so your opinion would be very helpful. Thank you!
BTW what backpack you recommend for a laptop and drawing tablet 16" and also carry a bit more clothes and stuff for travel? I thought maybe the asus proart backpack
not really sure to be honest, I don't have a drawing tablet. Also haven't reviewed the Asus bag you mention. Maybe check out our recent roundup of the best business backpacks - should be a good place to start
This is the love child of the Boundary Supply Errant and the Nomatic Navigator. Mous did some research on that two Packs. The sturdy build from the Navigator and the quality materials from the Errant (with some features that Mous just copy/paste on their product). Unfortunately they also used all the features I don't like about the Navigator. Therefore I just ordered the Errant Pro.
Everyone seems to have different ideas of where they drew inspiration for this bag... it's definably a bit of a re-mix, but still brings a lot of innovation to the table
Thanks! I ordered this to protect my MacBook Pro and Vision Pro (in a waterfield case) for weekend trips. I don’t mind weight if the protection is good. Speaking of protection… I’m looking for a 4-5 day backpack for my iPad Pro and trombone mutes (maybe the Vision Pro) that fit under the Southwest economy airline seat in front of me while still having a business looking aesthetic. That being said, the height of the main storage space when it’s on its back needs to fit my mutes (the largest of which is 6.5 inches wide) which currently works in my cheaper 40L Dinictis bag (as long as I don’t over pack it), but that bag doesn’t have as much protection for my mutes. Any recommendations?
sry mate that's a bit too specific for me to give a confident recommendation, I'd say look through Aer and Bellroy's catalgoues and you'll probably find something
I’m very interested about the drop test is it really this good that you can bend a MBP by throwing 8 story high? Haha wonder if I drop it 2 story would that still bend the MBP 16”?
I hessitate cause the pricetag but also the weight. Think the functionality of a lot of things with this bag is good but not everything is very practical. Like the little spot on the side for ur keys is great but... most keys are very bulky... so will this be practicall in that little thin place for ur keys or will it bulk out through the material? The bottom where u can put extra stuff like a jacket or yoga mat is great, but that means i wont be able to put my bag down on the floor cause my jacket is gonna be dirty or it wont stand on a table anymore...
Thanks for your feedback! I think you bring up a great point about the keys - they usually are fairly bulky these days. And yes, the goal isn't to permanently keep your jacket there - it's just an extra space to carry things in times of need. Then, when you get back home - take your jacket off and good to go!
Hi Aaron keep up the good work, love the vids. I’m just deciding whether or not to purchase the Black Ember Cidadel R3 25 L max at £303 plus postage. This Mous looks so much bigger than the Cidadel, which one do you prefer.
I’d take the Citadel - better materials, better warranty, and lighter weight (but I also think it looks significantly better, so it depends on your personal taste as well)
Do you still have your 17.5" around ? :D Although I am very interested in this model it's designed to 16" so I would like to know if a 17" can still fit inside comfortably, any change you could measure with yours ? Thanks!
Im loving this bag, and your reviews! I am new to the work travel scene and need a laptop, and extra monitor at the very least. my last portable monitor broke in a cotopaxi 40L. If i am traveling for 1-2 weeks at a time, is there a better bag for solid tech protection, durability, and the same amount of space if not a little bit more that you might recommend? maybe im asking too much, but if there was a way to find a one bag tech hybrid, worst case add a samsonite carryon.. thats the goal im looking for
Check out the Tortuga Traval Pack 45L. It’ll give you a bit more packing space and it’s awesome for tech gear. Not sure if it’ll fit your portably monitor tho - you’ll have to check the specs. Backup is the Minaal Carry On 35L - another awesome tech compartment that I would trust a portable monitor in
great for students but big and heavy - depends what is important to you. Do you want style? Protection? Versatility? Check out our 'Best University Backpacks' review for some ideas
Oh damn this looks like what version 2 of the boundary supply errant (not pro) would be. I noticed alot of similarities between these 2 bags. Very tempting to get it as a replacement. But i love my errant now. Might consider if they come out with camera accessories. Thought the weight is a concern.
4:38min "Taking a 3 day vacation through Tokio" - I'm actually thinking about buying this bag for my trip to Japan, where I meet my friend for 3 days in Tokio :). What a coincidence.
@@Nomads.Nation I just did and the bag is already on its way! Checked out some more of your videos first (nomadic I think and some other one) and really like them all but this one just wins. I'm wondering how many airlines will let me on their planes, if I also have a rolling carry on as well as I enter. This bag is just a couple centimeters too big in each dimension but I love that it can be my weekend trip backpack and then at the hotel, I can change it into the hiking backpack because it's so durable. Don't need to take an extra bag that can get dirty. Great combo!
Is there any backpack with hard bottom like a tool bag? Tool backpacks are all very ugly, but I need one that I can leave on the floor in the bus or tube Thanks a lot!!
@@Nomads.Nation I've been looking for it for a long time and you were my last hope as an expert... 😅 Now you have a new idea for your own backpack design, I don't know if it would be successful but it would be very exclusive!!!! The only option left for me is to make a Frankenstein backpack, buy a tool backpack, take that piece off and glue it on a laptop backpack. If I succeed I promise to send you pictures!
The structure, shape and material immediately makes me think of sympl. But this one does have panel loading over the sympl weekender. How do the straps stack up?
Reckon FYRO got some competition here matey..! As for the bottom straps, we use it for towel to the beach, a sleeping bag or blanket while camping or tripod for photography etc. MOUS - pronouce Moo, Moose? Why Mouse? What Language? Could you see how mad it could be if they have a detachable handle & a couple of wheels to it..? Cheers mate.
Hei thank you for the review, you look like a professional backpack related reviewer I am looking for an everyday tech backpack, this looks nice but, its not for the European market Do you review European brands as well? I am thinking to go for the Thule subterra 30L because its Swedish, I am in Scandinavia. good luck with your channel
So funny, everyone compares this bag to a different bag. So far I have Modern Dayfarer, Boundary Supply, Sympl, and Nomatic. I do agree with you though, I think it shares the most similarities with Nomatic
I have a idea for further videos: add the diamentions when the bag is fully packed. More and more airlines check the diamentions so would be nice to know how much the bags are fully packed
Should be delivered tomorrow! Noticed on the sternum strap there’s that web stopper piece of elastic, but not one on the strap that shuts the main compartment, where the fidlock is. Any idea where I’d get one from that could fit that strap? Not sure what to even search to find one?
@@LewisHolford search on Amazon for 'webbing keeper' - something like this www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7NX6GK1/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?pd_rd_i=B0C7NX6GK1&pd_rd_w=ed5CO&content-id=amzn1.sym.0d1092dc-81bb-493f-8769-d5c802257e94&pf_rd_p=0d1092dc-81bb-493f-8769-d5c802257e94&pf_rd_r=8A0N20P8VGGG54AWQQPT&pd_rd_wg=mVpXR&pd_rd_r=3e606299-c110-4f40-ae90-0c2e0cb32eae&s=sporting-goods&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWwy&th=1
The 25L is the only backpack that has the airo foam inside the backpack. It's also the only one with a lot of compartments. The 18L although is smaller and more comfortable and lightweight. It's missing a lot of compartments and doesn't offer the same protection as the 25L. The 25L with lid anyway. I recently bought the 18L with lid and I was so disappointed to find so many missing pockets and no airo foam at the bottom, like on this backpack. Huge deal breaker. It does not justify the £219.99 price tag. The 25L is priced same as its competition like peak design for example. But the 18L should not be £219.99. It should be £150 maximum. But £120 would be the fair price. It's shocking just how much is missing. Some people will like it and say we don't need that many pockets anyway. You say that now, but when you get it, you'd be disappointed. No umbrella pocket inside, no zipped pockets on the flap, no waist strap and not even that magnetic key fob that comes with the backpack on the side zip. There's nothing mous can say that will justify the price
@@Nomads.Nation yeah, but the fact that it doesn't have useful pockets like the umbrella one inside the backpack, or wasted space below the only zipped pocket inside. The flaps not having zipped pockets either. The foam inside the tech compartment is not even in the 18L so the price should at least be half of what it actually is. The 25L is expensive but justifiable because of the competition, the 18L is way over priced. I've requested a refund for mine, just waiting on that. It's a shame because the backpack is a decent size. Just a reminder that the 18L has probably half the compartments of the 25L. 18L has too less and 25L has too much. If it was in between, it would have been fine. If I open the 18L bag the way you did, to take that umbrella out. I wouldn't be taking much out, because the inside is not constructed that well The depth being fixed and not adjustable is a shame though. 12 expandable to 18 would have been nice. Or 18 expandable to 24. But that's a different conversation. When your backpack is finalised and ready, I fear you will price it for over £150. Even though I'm sure it'll be a great backpack. But I hope you have two versions though. Smaller one would be nice, as not everyone needs a big backpack
The loose, dangling straps on every side of this backpack make it look sloppy and, in my opinion, ruin the aesthetics of the backpack. Especially the long strap on the Fidlock buckle, which also looks terrible and out of place. As for external carry, I hate it. It does nothing to protect your items, looks incredibly sloppy and runs the risk of items falling off/being lost. I tossed the external carry straps for my various backpacks in a drawer somewhere in case I sell one and want to pass the straps along. If there isn't internal organization or space for an item it doesn't get carried via the backpack. That's just how I choose to carry, right or wrong, because aesthetics and a streamlined look matter.
The backpack looks good but the mouse sale service is totally useless. Items don’t arrive to destination because the mistakes mous makes in the shipping process. But the worst thing about it is they never update you regarding the delivery status. You can be waiting forever thinking that your order is on its way and it will never arrived to you without any comments or emails from mous. I ended up cancelling my payment through my bank. Unfortunately it is happening to a lot of people aro7nd the world. If you value for money don’t buy mous
Do you want to see the backpack that I'm making? 👉🏼 nomadsnation.com/building-a-backpack
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@@hulkhatepunybanner hell yes! Can’t speak for other people but I like it 😜. Happy holidays
@@Nomads.Nation YEAH! Happy holidays!
Thanks for the detailed review on the 25L version.
Something worth noting is the 18L version (which is the one I bought, and the one I assume is more popular) has some inconsistencies with the 25L you're reviewing, and these inconsistencies aren't mentioned on the website!
18L has no side handle, no key holder, no bottom external latch points.
None of these missing features are a deal breaker for me so I personally don't have buyer's remorse, but anyone looking at the 18L version may want to take this into account.
Awesome comment - thanks so much for the heads up
Thank you! This was important to know because I was thinking of buying the 18L. I have external straps on another bag I own, and never use them (and I bought it with using them in mind, I hate the bag though because the backstraps NEVER stay in place after adjusted for my height) so I don't think it's an issue... buuuut I'm also very picky and probably will use it for a hoodie. The key holder, though, is integral. I'll never use the handle. It's so weird because they're so transparent in their marketing, why not say that on the website?! Although, the images are slightly different and it's still on pre-order. The image doesn't feature the bottom straps or handle but the key pocket seems to be there.
Thanks I looked for this info! I figured it would just be a smaller version of the 25l.. didn't know it missed lots of the key features
bro just look at the pictures it lets you see if it has it or not don't be that stupid
@@leocel9976 you can't tell from the pictures there isn't a key holder, as it's contained within a pocket.
Let's be honest. These are the greatest reviews of any product, on any outlet, anywhere in the world. They are THAT good.
That means the world to us!! Shoutout to our amazing team for handling the complex videography/editing 💪🏻
@@Nomads.Nation Humble in sharing the success as well 👍 I think your channel has potential to explode, but maybe a couple limiters at play. How often are people shopping for bags? Once every few years maybe. If you can tie in topics to keep people interested more often, excellent. Second, the cursing kinda marginalizes some people, no? It shouldn't matter, I know, but I don't make the rules.
@@Nomads.Nation Being in Hong Kong and Vietnam, there seems many side topics Americans would be interested to see. How about visiting one of the many Hong Kong bazaars for knick-knack shopping where a bag may come in handy. What is it like to grocery shop in Hong Kong? Save some plastic and take a bag! How about an overnight stay-cation? Of course packing your items in one of the many great choice bags. An overnighter may not sound interesting until you showcase one of the grand Kowloon hotels that still have bell hops reminiscent of the early 20th century.
@@user-cx2bk6pm2f great suggestions mate, much apreciated!!
I've had this bag for about 4 months, and I have fallen in love with it as my EDC. I tend to be heavy in the tech I carry, but I love that I can carry everything I need whilst knowing its protected. The false bottom is padded in some type of foam which gives me a lot of confidence that my electronics will be protected if I drop my bag.
I like to use the rear section as my laptop, tablet, and document carry, and the main volume for bulky items like clothes/shoes.
oh yea, if protection is what you are looking for, look no further...
I have this backpack since February. It has a solid build and keeps my laptop protected, but it is HEAVY! Its weight makes me hesitate to grab it whenever I go out. And because it's heavy, it makes the luggage strap hard to use; especially, when I was trying to unload it from my luggage.
agree - really impressed with the bag, but that weight adds up
I realized that I watch a crap load of your vids but have not subscribed. long time overdue on this random video (but great as always). Subscribed!! Keep up the great work!
Welcome aboard!
the top lid for the Mous looks like the lid for the front pocket of your Fyro bagpack
ha, a bit yea! But their lid (like all lids like this) leads to the main compartment. The Fyro lid will be the only one that leads to a quick access front admin compartment (that will also be lockable 😉)
This IMO is a perfect design for a backpack that can transition between EDC and couple of days travel The Bellroy Venture is another good backpack of the same ilk. What Mous gets right is that the laptop is a separate compartment. What it gets wrong is the weight and over engineering. Overall this is the style of backpack I'd get if it has a better brain pocket (like the Bellroy) and a mesh water bottle pouch..and while we are at it increase volume by 3-4 liters will make it a perfect weeklong travel pack
yea 25L was an interesting choice. 20L is a more common size for EDC and would have made it smaller and lighter
Something i did check though is that the 25l is just small enough for overhead carry on airlines, which is prolly why they didnt make it a bit larger, and the 18l is also an option for a smaller bag
@@8_BitMan18L still looks pretty large. It's only about an inch or two shorter
Genuinely really impressed with this, especially for a bag which is new to the market and not a huge name in the backpack game. Using materials and zips top of the game! Impressive!
Loveee the side and back panel little pockets, great review as always!
thanks dude and agree! very impressive first bag from a phone case company (granted, a billion-dollar phone case company)
Yooo!!! Awesome review as always. So glad you were able to do this. Definitely the only review anyone will ever need. Really makes me want to get one now, however i am waiting to see how the Fyro backpack turns out. Personally i think with helping in the decision process of the Fyro bag will make me get that bag instead. But this review really makes me want the Mous bag now lol. Hopefully you'll also be able to do a review on the Mous sling, as there are almost no reviews on it. Would greatly appreciate it.
As always, killin it with the reviews!!
thanks my dude, and great suggestion on the sling! I'll reach out to them and try and get one
@@Nomads.Nation that would definitely be awesome to see! And i think if it turned out to be the sling for me, I'll be more likely to get that sling and rock the Fyro backpack for those bigger haul days out and about. Although I'm stuck on the modern dayfare sling as well base on your review 🤔
@@joshuafieldhouse1405 so many slings, so many options!
been waiting for this, thanks!
Hope you enjoyed it!
I have a backpack that on the back section it has a hidden pocket directly in the middle in between the two should padding cushions, which has a pull out long wallet to hold passports & a couple credit cards on one side with a zippered pocket to hold cash on the opposite side… it’s nice that it’s on the back as it would never get used unless the bag is taken off… I think it’s the best pocket ever to have on a backpack
Great location - very discrete and accessible
Can take or leave the back pocket for me, but nice to have if it’s there. I’m getting more skeptical of the designated air tag pockets, because if the bag is stolen, it’s the first place a thief knows to look to get rid of it. While it’s not super conspicuous, they’re not not that hard to spot either.
Probably right, but in that case I don’t think there’s anywhere a thief wouldn’t find it if they were motivated enough
Between this and the AER City Pack Pro, which would you recommend as a mostly EDC? Grad school / working professional + some occasional travel.
I really like both in terms of design. I like the weather resistance, security, & inner linings of the Mous, but it’s heavier & it seems like the back panel/shoulder straps aren’t as comfortable as the AER (not sure on this though).
I’m leaning towards the AER since it’s lighter, has a better layout for easy access, seems to have more comfortable straps/back panel, plus it’s cheaper. The main con for me is it’s not as weather proof, but since the laptop section has an aqua guard zipper I feel like that’s manageable. And I think the AER nylon has a fair level of water resistance too. (I don’t want to get the XPAC version because of the orange lining lol).
I’d love to hear what you think between these two bags. I really wish I could see both of these before buying, so your opinion would be very helpful. Thank you!
Can’t go wrong with either tbh, but I’d give the slight edge to Aer.
BTW what backpack you recommend for a laptop and drawing tablet 16" and also carry a bit more clothes and stuff for travel?
I thought maybe the asus proart backpack
not really sure to be honest, I don't have a drawing tablet. Also haven't reviewed the Asus bag you mention. Maybe check out our recent roundup of the best business backpacks - should be a good place to start
The dangle at front can actually be help with elastic webbing strap
how?
This is the love child of the Boundary Supply Errant and the Nomatic Navigator.
Mous did some research on that two Packs. The sturdy build from the Navigator and the quality materials from the Errant (with some features that Mous just copy/paste on their product). Unfortunately they also used all the features I don't like about the Navigator.
Therefore I just ordered the Errant Pro.
Everyone seems to have different ideas of where they drew inspiration for this bag... it's definably a bit of a re-mix, but still brings a lot of innovation to the table
Thanks! I ordered this to protect my MacBook Pro and Vision Pro (in a waterfield case) for weekend trips. I don’t mind weight if the protection is good. Speaking of protection… I’m looking for a 4-5 day backpack for my iPad Pro and trombone mutes (maybe the Vision Pro) that fit under the Southwest economy airline seat in front of me while still having a business looking aesthetic. That being said, the height of the main storage space when it’s on its back needs to fit my mutes (the largest of which is 6.5 inches wide) which currently works in my cheaper 40L Dinictis bag (as long as I don’t over pack it), but that bag doesn’t have as much protection for my mutes. Any recommendations?
sry mate that's a bit too specific for me to give a confident recommendation, I'd say look through Aer and Bellroy's catalgoues and you'll probably find something
Yesss you did it thanks so much its gonna help me a bunch!
Glad I could help!
I’m very interested about the drop test is it really this good that you can bend a MBP by throwing 8 story high? Haha wonder if I drop it 2 story would that still bend the MBP 16”?
only one way to find out, please let us know how your test goes haha
I hessitate cause the pricetag but also the weight. Think the functionality of a lot of things with this bag is good but not everything is very practical. Like the little spot on the side for ur keys is great but... most keys are very bulky... so will this be practicall in that little thin place for ur keys or will it bulk out through the material?
The bottom where u can put extra stuff like a jacket or yoga mat is great, but that means i wont be able to put my bag down on the floor cause my jacket is gonna be dirty or it wont stand on a table anymore...
Thanks for your feedback! I think you bring up a great point about the keys - they usually are fairly bulky these days. And yes, the goal isn't to permanently keep your jacket there - it's just an extra space to carry things in times of need. Then, when you get back home - take your jacket off and good to go!
Hi Aaron keep up the good work, love the vids. I’m just deciding whether or not to purchase the Black Ember Cidadel R3 25 L max at £303 plus postage. This Mous looks so much bigger than the Cidadel, which one do you prefer.
I’d take the Citadel - better materials, better warranty, and lighter weight (but I also think it looks significantly better, so it depends on your personal taste as well)
@@Nomads.Nation Ok great thanks for the reply.
Do you still have your 17.5" around ? :D Although I am very interested in this model it's designed to 16" so I would like to know if a 17" can still fit inside comfortably, any change you could measure with yours ? Thanks!
i do not sorry, be sure to reach out to Mous and ask them (and let us know what they say! 🙏 )
Im loving this bag, and your reviews! I am new to the work travel scene and need a laptop, and extra monitor at the very least. my last portable monitor broke in a cotopaxi 40L. If i am traveling for 1-2 weeks at a time, is there a better bag for solid tech protection, durability, and the same amount of space if not a little bit more that you might recommend? maybe im asking too much, but if there was a way to find a one bag tech hybrid, worst case add a samsonite carryon.. thats the goal im looking for
Check out the Tortuga Traval Pack 45L. It’ll give you a bit more packing space and it’s awesome for tech gear. Not sure if it’ll fit your portably monitor tho - you’ll have to check the specs. Backup is the Minaal Carry On 35L - another awesome tech compartment that I would trust a portable monitor in
Is it a good bag for students if not what bag do you recommend?
great for students but big and heavy - depends what is important to you. Do you want style? Protection? Versatility? Check out our 'Best University Backpacks' review for some ideas
Does it fit a MBP 16” with enough padding since it doesn’t fit inside the sleeve right?
I don’t have one so I can’t say - be sure to ask Mous and let us know what they say 🙏🏽
Oh damn this looks like what version 2 of the boundary supply errant (not pro) would be. I noticed alot of similarities between these 2 bags. Very tempting to get it as a replacement. But i love my errant now. Might consider if they come out with camera accessories. Thought the weight is a concern.
Very much like an Errant for sure, but also very unique in its own way
I'm reading the comments about weight, meanwhile, I'm looking at this coming from a gig bag I use for DJing that's 5.29lbs 🤣🤣🤣
Good review!
5.29 lbs - yikes! 😂
4:38min
"Taking a 3 day vacation through Tokio" - I'm actually thinking about buying this bag for my trip to Japan, where I meet my friend for 3 days in Tokio :). What a coincidence.
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@@Nomads.Nation I just did and the bag is already on its way! Checked out some more of your videos first (nomadic I think and some other one) and really like them all but this one just wins.
I'm wondering how many airlines will let me on their planes, if I also have a rolling carry on as well as I enter.
This bag is just a couple centimeters too big in each dimension but I love that it can be my weekend trip backpack and then at the hotel, I can change it into the hiking backpack because it's so durable. Don't need to take an extra bag that can get dirty. Great combo!
@@tristanmoller9498 hope you like it!
Is there any backpack with hard bottom like a tool bag? Tool backpacks are all very ugly, but I need one that I can leave on the floor in the bus or tube
Thanks a lot!!
Hard bottom as in a super durable material? Or hard bottom as in literally made of plastic?
@@Nomads.Nation hard bottom made of plastic, as is easier to clean and the backpack will stand itself. Thanks!!
@@cuevasmartin_es never seen one - if you find something be sure to let us know!
@@Nomads.Nation I've been looking for it for a long time and you were my last hope as an expert... 😅
Now you have a new idea for your own backpack design, I don't know if it would be successful but it would be very exclusive!!!!
The only option left for me is to make a Frankenstein backpack, buy a tool backpack, take that piece off and glue it on a laptop backpack. If I succeed I promise to send you pictures!
@@cuevasmartin_es oh yea dude, PLEASE make one and send us some pics
Could you fit a 17inch dell,16inch MacBook Pro, and 12.9 inch iPad Pro in the main compartment, even if one is in its own compartment?
Sounds like a great question for Mous customer support - please let us know what they say 💪🏾
amazing review, thanks a lot!
Glad you liked it!
Love that opening claim!
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The structure, shape and material immediately makes me think of sympl. But this one does have panel loading over the sympl weekender. How do the straps stack up?
similar to sympl in some ways yes. Sympl is more comfortable imo
This is similar to the Modern Dayfarer isnt it? Awesome bag and review as always! Excited for Fyro's release!
its sort of a remix of a lot of bags, but very original in its own way as well
Reckon FYRO got some competition here matey..! As for the bottom straps, we use it for towel to the beach, a sleeping bag or blanket while camping or tripod for photography etc. MOUS - pronouce Moo, Moose? Why Mouse? What Language? Could you see how mad it could be if they have a detachable handle & a couple of wheels to it..? Cheers mate.
MOUS = mouse. They make phone cases and are huuggge in the US. Good call on the luggage haha
May I ask what's your height like? Just want to imagine the proportional of the bag and your height...thanks!
a towering 5'8
Hei
thank you for the review, you look like a professional backpack related reviewer
I am looking for an everyday tech backpack, this looks nice but, its not for the European market
Do you review European brands as well?
I am thinking to go for the Thule subterra 30L because its Swedish, I am in Scandinavia.
good luck with your channel
I’ve heard great things about Thule but haven’t reviewed one myself.
Pretty cool bag - like to see a comparison between this and the Nomatic - both have a similar boxy kinda shape.
So funny, everyone compares this bag to a different bag. So far I have Modern Dayfarer, Boundary Supply, Sympl, and Nomatic. I do agree with you though, I think it shares the most similarities with Nomatic
@@Nomads.Nation I would say dayfarer as well in terms of shape - I had that thought as well.
@@jpmccarthy33 its a smorgasbord lol
Can you wash it in the wash machine?
99% sure that would be a bad idea
Yes review excellent finally
Glad to help!
I have a idea for further videos: add the diamentions when the bag is fully packed. More and more airlines check the diamentions so would be nice to know how much the bags are fully packed
its a great idea, truly, I'll talk with my team about it :)
This bag or AER city pack pro X pack ?
For me? Aer all day
Can you do a review on the 18L commuter zip?
Trying to get one sent to me - hopefully soon
Does the box of the sony xm5 fit laterally in the bag?
just checked - not even close
Can you please do a review of the arcido Saxon v2? Thank you!
I think I used to have that one but never reviewed it. I’ll add to our wish list :)
This or the Nomatic 20L?
For me, Nomatic
Does it stand up when filled?
sort of, but not super strong no
@@Nomads.Nation ah that’s a shame! I think I’ll likely get one anyway
@@LewisHolford be sure to let us know what you think about it after you test it out for a few weeks :)
Should be delivered tomorrow! Noticed on the sternum strap there’s that web stopper piece of elastic, but not one on the strap that shuts the main compartment, where the fidlock is. Any idea where I’d get one from that could fit that strap? Not sure what to even search to find one?
@@LewisHolford search on Amazon for 'webbing keeper' - something like this www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7NX6GK1/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?pd_rd_i=B0C7NX6GK1&pd_rd_w=ed5CO&content-id=amzn1.sym.0d1092dc-81bb-493f-8769-d5c802257e94&pf_rd_p=0d1092dc-81bb-493f-8769-d5c802257e94&pf_rd_r=8A0N20P8VGGG54AWQQPT&pd_rd_wg=mVpXR&pd_rd_r=3e606299-c110-4f40-ae90-0c2e0cb32eae&s=sporting-goods&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWwy&th=1
I do like a way to strap a jacket/coat to my bag. My AER doesn’t have enough space to actually double the compression straps to do that.
yea it's a neat little feature!
Not available at the present time. They took it off the website.
wtf...?
What if I have much larger 16in gaming laptop
Double check with Mous customer support - they’ll get you sorted 💪🏻
Would it be possible to store a thin 17.3 inch laptop? Anyone tried?
I don’t have one so can’t comment - hoping someone from the community can help. If not be sure to ask Mous customer support, they’ll get you sorted 💪🏻
More bags should have a water bottle retention strap.
can't argue with that! but it depends on the bag too
The 25L is the only backpack that has the airo foam inside the backpack. It's also the only one with a lot of compartments. The 18L although is smaller and more comfortable and lightweight. It's missing a lot of compartments and doesn't offer the same protection as the 25L. The 25L with lid anyway. I recently bought the 18L with lid and I was so disappointed to find so many missing pockets and no airo foam at the bottom, like on this backpack. Huge deal breaker. It does not justify the £219.99 price tag. The 25L is priced same as its competition like peak design for example. But the 18L should not be £219.99. It should be £150 maximum. But £120 would be the fair price. It's shocking just how much is missing. Some people will like it and say we don't need that many pockets anyway. You say that now, but when you get it, you'd be disappointed. No umbrella pocket inside, no zipped pockets on the flap, no waist strap and not even that magnetic key fob that comes with the backpack on the side zip. There's nothing mous can say that will justify the price
Not everyone needs lots of pockets (like me, I prefer to use pouches) but I do get what you are saying about the price point
@@Nomads.Nation yeah, but the fact that it doesn't have useful pockets like the umbrella one inside the backpack, or wasted space below the only zipped pocket inside. The flaps not having zipped pockets either. The foam inside the tech compartment is not even in the 18L so the price should at least be half of what it actually is. The 25L is expensive but justifiable because of the competition, the 18L is way over priced. I've requested a refund for mine, just waiting on that. It's a shame because the backpack is a decent size.
Just a reminder that the 18L has probably half the compartments of the 25L. 18L has too less and 25L has too much. If it was in between, it would have been fine. If I open the 18L bag the way you did, to take that umbrella out. I wouldn't be taking much out, because the inside is not constructed that well
The depth being fixed and not adjustable is a shame though. 12 expandable to 18 would have been nice. Or 18 expandable to 24. But that's a different conversation. When your backpack is finalised and ready, I fear you will price it for over £150. Even though I'm sure it'll be a great backpack. But I hope you have two versions though. Smaller one would be nice, as not everyone needs a big backpack
I thought this is the fyro backpack video at the first moment 😂
some similarities with having a top-lid, but veryyy different bags
I think the fryo will be the best! So excited for the upcoming details.
@@sll0824 thanks so much!! Got some big updates coming soon :)
HOW do you not have more subscribers?
We are growing slowly but surely! 💪🏾
They have a new slicker backpack now you can get in 18L or 25L still overpriced i think for a backpack😅
oh cool! I'll have to get one to review
So huge!
yea its a big boy
The loose, dangling straps on every side of this backpack make it look sloppy and, in my opinion, ruin the aesthetics of the backpack. Especially the long strap on the Fidlock buckle, which also looks terrible and out of place.
As for external carry, I hate it. It does nothing to protect your items, looks incredibly sloppy and runs the risk of items falling off/being lost. I tossed the external carry straps for my various backpacks in a drawer somewhere in case I sell one and want to pass the straps along. If there isn't internal organization or space for an item it doesn't get carried via the backpack. That's just how I choose to carry, right or wrong, because aesthetics and a streamlined look matter.
Strong opinions - thanks for sharing!
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Entirely made in China?
not sure, but some amazing bags are made in China like Aer and Bellroy
All of these backpacks are $250-$300 😭
Yeah these are the worlds best and most premium bags. We’ve done a lot of budget reviews too - be sure to check them out!
But still way cheaper than TUMI
@@sglatitude tru dat
The backpack looks good but the mouse sale service is totally useless. Items don’t arrive to destination because the mistakes mous makes in the shipping process. But the worst thing about it is they never update you regarding the delivery status. You can be waiting forever thinking that your order is on its way and it will never arrived to you without any comments or emails from mous. I ended up cancelling my payment through my bank. Unfortunately it is happening to a lot of people aro7nd the world. If you value for money don’t buy mous
Unfortunate to hear and thank you for sharing
To much bla bla..
im a thorough man