How powerful is type 45 destroyers
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- How powerful is royal navy warship type 45 destroyer - the type 45 destroyer or Daring class destroyer is more than just a ship: it’s a symbol of Britain’s eminent place on the world stage and a powerful deterrent. It is a new class of Anti-Air Warfare Destroyer to replace the Royal Navy's existing Type 42 that had served during the Falklands War, with the last Type 42 being decommissioned in 2013. After the launch of Daring on 1 February 2006 Admiral Sir Alan West, a former First Sea Lord, stated that it would be the Royal Navy's most capable destroyer ever, as well as the world's best air-defense ship.
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Dont forget the Royal Navy also have a BBC Reporter as a primary part of their ship's Electronic warfare and decoy's
Sounds like a kick ass destroyer … good work UK 🇬🇧!!
A £500 million upgrade to the type 45 has been announced. The plans are to facilitate the introduction of CAMM , a new 24 CAMM silos will be added in front of the present 48 Astra 30 silos. Increasing the missile capacity by 50% and result in a capacity of 72 anti-air missiles per destroyer.
Holy crap nice. Unpar with the USN Ardleigh Burke destroyer
Was needed
Sm-3 Sm-6 are only good against non Manor able large targets I.e cruise missiles. They aren’t good against Manoeuvrable fast fighters
The upgrade is two-fold.
First, you're getting 72 VLS tubes.
Second, all of the 48 Sylver cells contain the long range Aster-30 instead of a 30/15 mix.
The 24 CAMM missiles do the job of the Aster-15 so now there's only Aster-30s.
And because the Aster's terminal dart guidance is so good you only need to launch a single Aster to guarantee a kill.
One Aster One Kill
SM-2 and AEGIS requires salvo fire, 2 missiles to guarantee a hit, effectively halving the number of shots you have.
And magazine depth is _life_ in this game.
@Drew Peacock
What's CAMM good for?
Killing anything and everything that is
Very powerful against attack from the air. However, only 4 of the six ships have anti ship harpoon missiles & these may be removed in a year or two. Against submarines they would be relying on their helicopter to defend the ship. Against other ships they have one 4.5 inch gun and some smaller weapons for dealing with pirates etc. What this seems to mean that in a war situation the Type 45 destroyers would protect the carrier and other ships from air attacks. The other frigates and US ships would protect the Type 45 destroyer from submarines and other naval vessels of the enemy. So off the coast of Crimea the Type 45 is vulnerable to surface vessels and submarines but not vulnerable to air attack. So in this sabre rattling or charade the Russians only threaten with aircraft, & small ships, & no submarines or large destroyers. By doing this it does not escalate the tensions. Both sides know what is going on.
Correct, one torpedo and it is game over .And it's madness to remove the Harpoons.
@@skywatcher3133 not really, the whole premise of the type 45 was air defence.... its designed to be part of a carrier group- which would include an attack submarine- more effective than any ship..
@@skywatcher3133 in an actual war you wont see a lonely type 45 on its own, it will be with a carrier etc
We do have ASTUTE Hunter killers. ..which kill other subs .
Idiot. It has ONE job: AIR DEFENCE.
Just right after Crimea 👍
@Un Know "Flew from Crimea after Russian ship started firing"
Not really, just stayed its course as they fired warning shots, zero shits given.
Russian fleet is stronger.
@@samahmadoke8704 in 1v1 yes, mass>class but theres a thing called NATO..
@@samahmadoke8704 lol
@@PitchBlackTales Russia could have easily sink it so...
That ship always kick my ass in modern warships
True hahaha 🤣 even I have INS Chennai wuth Good Anti Air, HMS Duncan break my Defense haha
And Also That ship is Fast althouh HMS duncan is weak in Close Combat, His Firepower, Range, and Speed will dominate the Tier 2 Warships.
Also fun fact you cant break this ships back (hint she's got no spine) , you can punch a hole in it (although good luck trying) These were built with being tough as a main priority.
Plenty of water/oil within every ship the the world, leaks/floods hardly ever come from any part of the hull, 99% of the time a flood is from within and not usually a big deal. More like someone accidentally overfilling a tank or not doing a connection up properly 😂
@@scotwilson4169 You know to much about what happens in the Bilge..... Haha lol.
This is the reason why russia made a warning shot only it look like a gun salute to the destroyer 😅
ask the sailors on that destroyer if they had felt the salute
@@unglaubichuberlieber8048 They probably didn't even know it happened the shots were that insignificant.
@@l3gionmusic814 Yeah, that's why they changed their course and run away out of Russian borders. And the thing is - will they repeat such incident next time? Cuz Russian defence ministry has warned them, that next time bombs will be thrown not just on path, but on target.
@@Вася-ш3щ i hope they do… looking forward to WW3
@@boyteebah3794 It's up to Brits and the rest of West. If Brits want WW3, they can try again. In case of their pan will be sunken or burned, the West will think twice - do they need do die for that british clown Boris's idiotism on not. I think, they'll decide to stay alive with peace.
And yes. i'm as the citizen of Russia approve burning british pan next time if they repeat it.
That's some fine French technology there. A great European design.
Shows what you can do with top technology of a whole continent behind you.
@Raider Primus You have missed the point, but Krackerman and I get it.
Great video but you didn’t answer the question
These videos are well produced, but obviously they're approved by Pentagon, so they're not going to respond anything resembling intelligence.
You forgot to mention HMS dragon just shot down a Mach 8 sea skipper.
No it didn’t.
HMS Defender has the capability to destroy the whole Russian Black Sea fleet
There are only four sets of Harpoon for the entire T45s. A T45 will only have 4 Harpoon missiles.
@@alexanderfoster3628 Russian Black Sea fleet has only two gun boat currently at Sevastopol, I doubt you even need harpoon.
Russia🔥🧨🇷🇺 satan avangard powerful weaphon👍👍🔥🇷🇺🔥👍🇷🇺
its not 1805 Trafalgar, any pommy ship in the Black Sea can be vaporized without any Russian ship leaving the port. Its called anti ship missiles launched from the coast or the air. Now enjoy your beans for brekky and dont forget to keep up with oral hygine.......
@@robertduklus6555 Kinzhal,belgorod👍👍👍
2006... 2016
No matter how powerful the Type 45 Destroyer is, it matters how many potential corpses are on board. And the decibels of howling Britain and its flock after this epic burial alive.
From Russia with Death.
made no absolutely no sense
Can we see these ships in war thunder 😜
We need them!
Who knows they exactly go to war against their equals.
Russia's coast guard and Navy vs BBC
poor brits clapping, dreaming of the glory years past while at home their government puts a chokehold on their freedom to do anything except enjoy the rain.
Can any member explain does type 45 is design to counter Russian or Chinese hypersonic missile attack. Does the ship is design as it claim to be. A expert member opinion is highly appreciated
So you have the Russian Sandstone Missile. Which is not stealthy at all. Stealth for a offence weapon matters much more than a speed. The Asters have very very good accuracy, therefore I do not think the sandstone missile will be a problem, but where you have the YJ-21, that's a different matter its very very fast. I reckon they can shoot them, but the accuracy falls out the window. You then have the problem, being how many offensive weapons a Chinese vessel carries, and the Type 45 would have burned through its ammunition. With the CAMM, that might have been solved.
Make video on indian ✌️ destroyer
Just good at shooting down planes. Noting more.
Zarcon is all out easily destroyed almost of UK warships.
Only 2 is working they can't preform on warm waters and all need new engines.. They need scraped.. They may have OK weapons but the boats are rubbish..
For its time, which was 2009 lol
Do not ever provoke the following countries; Russia, China or North Korea, you know that I mean.......you war ship and the royal army is a sandwich to the above countries, in other words, watch your steps, look after yourself bud
We need nuclear battle cruse ships to compete with Russians but better armed, we do carriers why not cruse ships?
I like to ask one question: the 🇬🇧 has made a ship of 8,000 tons. Quite a big one, yeah? Then why only fit 48 launchers in it? Afterall the 🇺🇸 Areligh Burke class, bigger at 9,,600 tons, carries ,96 launchers, so logically the 🇬🇧 ship should have the ability to carry around 80 launchers!!
OK some argue that there is NO NEED to carry that many missles,.......Er if that's the case then why build a 8,000 ton ship? If the 🇬🇧 only want to carry 48 into battle, then a 4,500 ton FRIGATE is all they needs!!
Can somebody explain this illogical setup to me please?
@Raider Primus looking at other nation's design/setup, if the 🇺🇸 in the 80's could produce a warship with a launcher for every 100 tons, then today, one should be able to do better!! So a modern 8,500 ton warship should be able to easily carry around 80 launchers!!
So using this logic, if the 🇬🇧 Navy only goes to fight with 48 launchers in their ships, then why make a 8,500 ton ship? A 4,000ton ship should be sufficient given improvement in modern design efficiency!!
Of course there are ships that Wright 400,000 tons, but that's a different class altogether.....
@Raider Primus em.....If you looked at the 🇺🇸 can Areligh Burke class destroyer. It weighs ,9,600 tons and had 96 launchers. The Ticonderoga class weights 10,000 tons and had over 100 launchers.
So looking at the design of destroyers, in general,do you not think it make sense to say a launcher for every 100 tons is a logical design standard? Afterall if one country could do it 20+ years ago, then today the design should be even more efficient?
Ok the seraj class: it has a 107 mm MRLS and DShK 12.7mm machine gun. Where are the 12 missile launcher?? I think you have confused this Multiple Rocket Launcher with missile launcher!!
I visited a Japanese Destroyer, although i knew "on the paper" all the specs of the ship, however, to confirm it, i tried to talk with one of the sailor...and the answer was a "smile"...that's it.
One must be naive enough to belive that they will tell you everything about the ship on WIKI or RUclips...Traditionally, Russia will over stated their weapon, NATO will under state their weapon, but secrets or the REAL POWER of the weapon always be kept...
That extra "weight" of the HMS Defender might be the Anti Submarine Suite or something like that but you never see it "on the paper"...
@@thanhnguyen-xi8fq yes you are very likely to be right about NATO understating its weapon's ability....But i never said the🇷🇺 weapons are that good either.....
So we compare "like for like", ie the information published on paper, assuming all NATO countries equally "understate" their true ability....
@Raider Primus Again, what the public can see or read does not mean everything...that's the point. That's why we only know how good a weapon system is until it proves itself on the battle field, or real combat experience...S-400 missile for example, praised by Russian's mouth pieces as the best in the world bla, bla...but so terrible in use at Syria..., the same with Pantsir S1...
Love from Russian black sea.❤️
A nice movie "Hunter Killer" showed what a Russian Destroyer can do
It's a movie, idiot.
More than likely breakdown.
What happened in Russia?
is it going to the South China Sea to be intercepted by Chinese type 052 ships?
China have never been involved in conflict it’s not in there nature the people are good, they have only experienced a bad outcome and horrible things China did , the whole purpose of the voyage is a right of passage, now China would loose in 5 years perhaps not
Anything that floats can sink,simple as that powerfull or not.They said titanic was unsinkable.
“Made in China” quality.....go figure 🤣😂👎
Why
Nah you just wish China actually had a destroyer like the Daring Class
@@esalalomani7618 A few 055s can sink the entire british fleet.....
Bojo dna is empire
And it will take just one Russian "bastion" rocket or "Kinjal" to turn this into scrap metal. At a touch of a button. LOL
🇬🇧 👍
Off Crimea it might have lasted about 20mins or less if it had gone kinetic
I think any kind of modern battle would be very short lived.
I tend to agree with your assessment, though. A line destroyer 12 miles of an enemy coast would eventually be sunk but the type 45 would cause a lot of mayhem before it died.
Once it has expanded its missiles, it might as well use that 4.5 inch gun to do as much damage to targets on the shoreline before its stopped.
So powerful that it ran away from the Black Sea...
Ran away? You mean sailed continuously throughout the black sea regardless of Russian aggression, and Russia claimed to fire warning while she remained on course despite aircraft buzzing past. It's a shame more NATO ships haven't followed suit in protecting sovereignty like the RN have.
This is pure ball st=t In the near future this killing machine that cost millions to make and even more to man or should I say woman . Will be taken out by less costing crap .
When will we ever learn . Someone is getting very rich on this rubbish
48 missile loadout seems quite limited. I'm guessing there's more in storage
I would hope so. But probably only enough for two re loads.
@@limedickandrew6016, no reloads as far as I know! 😬
Unfortunately no, there are no extra missiles. 48 is all that it has. What it needs is the MK41 vls and a different missile load out, 40 x Aster 30 and quad pack 32 x CAAMM - ER ( Sea ceptor extended range )into the remaining 8 silos.
@@stephennelmes2537 Do you think they would publically say how many missiles they actually had? Kind of naive to assume that.
@@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL Anyone with half a brain cell knows how VLS cells work. They don't have reloads (except some stupid Chinese designs that they themselves abandoned in their latest ships).
Should of built the initial 12, along with 18 Frigates (fully equipped versions) and had 10 of the Astute class SSN's. Coupled with the two carriers that would enable a fully equipped strike carrier group and potentially two at 3/6 months notice.
Given the length of time to create modern ships we should be having a larger force so in the event of conflict any losses are not immediately crippling to our defence capabilities.
Couldn't agree more, it would also have brought down the unit costs.
They have reduced naval staff to operate the ships
@@uzoma112 When you mistreat your armed forces, send them into wars that you don't let them actually fight in to their fullest, then cut your armed forces to the bone it puts off many from signing up.
Need a much larger body of personnel, having units not be out at sea for a year at a time may help. More flexible rotations with larger staff would migitate this.
Many these days are obsessed with their phones, becoming a celeb or footballer of sorts.
Which is distracting from a aged perspective.
Soon as they make full time military personnel not be locked into their role absolutely per say the better I think.
I fully agree with you. I've long been writing to my MP and the Daily Telegraph about just this (since 2005). Even a major expansion of the Type 31 program would give us hulls we can afford to lose, and in more places, and we could upgrade them too.
@Raider Primus Failed ships? How? How do you know - they aren't even built yet! The Type 31s are meant to put a ship where we need a presence but not something of great expense or firepower - escorting oil tankers against piracy, for one example. A Type 31 is just enough for that job. The Type 26s are meant for the heavier tasks.
You wouldn't find out exactly how powerful it was until you attacked it.
Imagine being a Somali pirate and coming up against that
@@xXRobbie98Xx the pirates would win, only one of the six type 45 built is seaworthy due to rubbish turbines.
@@georgebarnes8163 Old news!
@@simonbird1973 What is?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This is one of the ships Russia pretended to have chased off, it would decimate those old rust buckets they call warships.
Are you a 19th century time traveler or just ignorant? Warships have been obsolete for almost a hundred years. Nowadays they sink faster than their captain can shout: "Hypersonic missile saturation attack!!!!!"
@Raider Primus There hasn't been a war with any power that has hypersonic missile so all those ships and their crews are safe for now (thank God). But China and Russia are building them like their life depends on it (and it does). From the commentators like you I hear its just propaganda... those weapons are useless. I think the real propaganda is trying to hide that the West has lost the edge over China and Russia and that in a conventional war US and allies are unable to win.
I think he may be referring to the the obsolete cruisers and just about every capital ship including the Admiral Krunchie carrier ! But as as primarily air defence vessel the D type ,due to lack of Russian expenditure on updating radar , avionics and digital systems on all its aircraft now well over 20 years old with complete lack of integration between systems bar 1 ( the pretty one with the nice 2 tone grey paint job- I really can't stand overdoing the technical crap) operational stealthy woosh thingy , this makes pretty much all of the Russian flying stuff obsolete ! Get it chaps - tracks 2000 targets about 10 times more than piloted serviceable Russian aircraft that won't even get closer enough to break wind in the approximate direction of this beast , can launch and re launch 48 missiles repeatedly at anything faster than a Pizzahut delivery moped near Uranus ! And shoot the shit out of everything else .
You can perhaps now see why the Russian skipper screamed " Do not , I repeat DO NOT HIT THE DEFENDER " , as that would have been the Crimea problem over and done with . Seriously though no one wants any sort of war , just a peaceful life for all and freedom of the worlds navigable sea lanes , otherwise WE WILL DESTROY YOU !!....... Damn Blair , fucking commie if it was for that damn convicted sex offender and all round nasty war criminal we would have lots more , but those theiving commies are all the same , and Blair should be dangling from whatever is Defenders equivalent of a yard arm !
@@georgerobartes2008 I agree that Russian navy is far more obsolete than US navy but we are really talking about paradigm change with hypersonic weapons,. I t really doesn't matter if someone's spear is longer and sharper if the other side uses firearms. This was a problem throughout history causing fall of empires because they were not willing to adapt and refuse to let go of what had served them in the past.
Sorry, I misspelled a lot in my previous post after a beer too many so you may have misunderstood . What I meant is that the nature of warfare has changed. The nature of the world has changed. And the US has not grasped either of those facts. you seem to love facts.. think about that.
Type 45 Defender could easily take out all twenty russian aircraft and whatever they could have launched at it.
Keep telling yourself bullshit and hope for best
Malik Ben Any arguments why not? No? I didn’t think so. Hahaha. Another idiotic Putin-lover.
@@V14-x6n ok lets see, the patrol boat that fired warning shots is armed with anti ship missiles, the defender itself was less than 20 km off the coast, a coast riddled with ASMs mind you, there were dozens of other much more heavily armed ships in the vicinity, by the time brits aquired firing solutions it would already get no less than 4 ASM fired at it and thats the best case scenario , and at that distance the only thing brits can do is watch and say oh bollo..
Overlord Another expert. Lol
@@V14-x6n you asked for arguments and I provided them, this can all be deduced from information that is publically availabel, for examole you can search up rubin class for the patrol boat and see that it has asm or you can callculate how long it would take for something that can travel mach2+ to cover what looks like 5-10 km. And if you want to nitpick I can ask how do you know that type 45 could take them all on
What a coincidence this released literally right after the whole incident with the HMS defender off of Crimea
What’s your point?
@@closethedoornow7538 I am saying that the video about the type 45 class released literally after the incident when HMS Defender accidentally caused the Russians to be pissed off just because the defender passed by Crimea which is annexed by Russia and seen as part of Ukraine by the West, so it’s a coincidence when the vid released
@@moalzaben5554 Is it a coincidence or is it just smart management of a RUclips channel? Things in the news cycle get more hits after all.
@Raider Primus ok u do have a point
@Raider Primus mate when I mean by your point, I am saying that your explanation is clear.
britain poked a bear using a powerful stick
i say - fuck the bear :D
That's the thing though. We ain't talking about the Soviet Union anymore. Those days are gone. Russia is a shadow of its former self. Aging military, aging population, tiny economy and isolated. The royal navy has nothing to worry about
britainica rule the waves
@@noodles169 And don't forget that russia has got one of the worst strategic positions in the entire world, every single access to the sea that Russia has can be blocked off and blockaded
More like a sledgehammer 💪🏽
In defence of BAE and the MOD, my government was being run by idiots (still are), the original order was for at least 10 vessels. Blair cancelled half the order.
Son eso y más.
Blair was a twat
@@milespostlethwaite1154 He STILL is!
His a war creminal,needs to be at the hague.
Every government cancels orders. The tories cost millions for a contract breach regarding f35. One government wants it the next doesn't.
Lucky for russia they decided not to start anything, this is the wrong ship to try and prove a point against..
not against mach 3 missiles, they can't be scanned by radar
@@fuke1345 and what is your source for that obviously false claim?
Another very good video mate, good script, well narrated by your narrator, and you didn't once mention the propulsion problems as everyone else seems to.
They've finally become the best Air Defense Destroyers in the world, now their propulsion and electrical generator cooling systems have been sorted. Apart from that, they're now where there supposed to be.
An absolutely beautiful ship design, shame we didn't get all 12 ships as originally planned.
Why care that they cost £1.1b each, if you want the Best, it costs money so deal with it people, it's not a Fishing boat is it, it's the best Air Defense Destroyer in the world.
@Raider Primus What are you trying to say?
"The best" Pfffffft. Meanwhile, Arleigh Burke class are just chilling with their 96 VLS cells, SM-3, SM-6 and quad-packed ESSM. Not sure if this British ship could withstand a full salvo from an Indian Navy Kolkata class or Visakhapatnam class destroyer, especially with that kind of radar. Why is the radar so nerfed if it is "the best air defence destroyer in the world"? Look, I get it, UK punches above its weight, and that is impressive. But trying to equate that with "the best in the world" is more than just a stretch. Its delusional.
@Raider Primus Please stop talking, your grammar is so bad.
@Warped Sounds Its not got 360 degrees coverage. It has two panels and has to rotate for 360 degrees coverage. That is a compromise that nerfs the SAMSON radar. Its a shame because otherwise, PAAMS is a good Air Defence system. Its just not good now that the radar loses track for a few milliseconds regularly.
@Raider Primus First of, I am Indian. Not Chinese. Seeing as we are the only country actually drawing blood and making the Chinese draw blood in a fight with China, it triggers me to no end when you keep calling me Chinese.
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Second of all, mind telling me exactly how my statement is a propaganda? I told you why SAMSON is weak: Its not got 360 degrees coverage and has to rotate which makes it lose coverage for a few milliseconds each rotation. That is sub-optimal. So what part of this statement is propaganda? Do tell.
5 out of 6 not even combat ready!
Absolute embarrassment
They have to first repair them and upgrade them but they will be great in time.
@@peternicho They're unreliable, under-armed and we don't have enough.
Should have bought Aegis Destroyers off the yanks....
@@EmperorLionflame My answer is have more ships like the 12 originally planned, so when 1 breaks down and the others have to undergo the sufficient work so they don't break down we will still have a fully operational surface fleet!! Not rocket science really is it. Oh and how about Arm them correctly in the first place so you wouldn't need to add firepower and taking them of the frontline!!!
No matter how you look at this it's an absolute embarrassment.
Military TV : how powerfull UKs type 45 destroyer
Me : powerful enough to take several russian bombing and get back for repair and refit
Back in time for tea and crumpets.
you: powerful enough to take several russian bombing and get back for repair and refit
me: wake up pomies, you will have a chance to become a very expencive reef, your arrogance is bigger than you. Have a nice day, enjoy it before you end up somewhere unalble to control the situation.
@@defrag1 Same to any country.
What a delusion of grandeur. As if the Russians would go on a bombing run. What do you think this is? Argentina in the 80s. The Russians will blow it out of the water without bothering to leave port. How well will it handle against Zircon. That would be interesting.
Home is so far away for the ship. Yet it's only 2 mins as the zircon flies from Russia
@@defrag1 Why,? Will Vlad send one of his tugs out?
Pity you didn’t mention the propulsion system had to be replaced because it kept breaking down!!!
Would of loved to see those pilots in their old MIGs once that radar lights them up. I wouldnt of thought a couple of clapped out coastal patrol vessels would be any threat to a type 45 destroyer.
You reckon? What about their hypersonic missiles and hypersonic coastal batteries???
@@PS-nv2qp didnt use anything but their old MIGs. You will having us in a world war next 😂😂😂
@@user-qg8fy6id3t hello! they were in range of the Bastion coastal missiles. Not to mention the largest navy base in Crimea. They have hypersonic missiles etc. How the heck would the Brits defend against that???
@@PS-nv2qp no one anywhere in the world is out of range anymore. There was no mention of rockets and missiles maybe they were just out of order that day like most things Russian 😂
@@user-qg8fy6id3t Talking of out of order how many T45s are fully operational right now!?
Floating embarrassments....
Rule Britannia from Glasgow 😎 🇬🇧
Kinzhal is the solution.
Russia not being a "bad neighbour" is the solution! 👍
@@Markus117drussia is not neighbour of the uk last time looked at the map
@@robertduklus6555 i didn't say it was, but it is a neighbour of our allies and friends. Also neighbour doesn't only mean right next door, it also means within an area within relative proximity.
@@Markus117d who knew 3200 km is considered relative proximity. GTFO.
@@robertduklus6555 For the last time! The Ukraine is a friend & ally, it is not 3,200km away from the threat Russia presents. They are right there. And 3,200km isn't that far in the scales of nations for Britain to be complacent, especially of nations which consider murder of opponents by chemical & Nuclear poisoning to be justified, which has occurred on our nice and safe 3,200km away shores, not that long ago actually! And which could be launching ballistic missiles ( wether Conventional, Chemical or Nuclear in nature ! ) from that distance which would arrive in only 5 minutes ! Not to mention an air force which without our friends & allies in NATO wouldn't be far behind! So with all due possible respect ( ie none ) why don't you GTFO yourself! 👋
But there’s only one currently available. The other five are sick. Again!
Nice, but can it stop rubber dingies crossing the channel from Africa?
If given orders to do so, yes.
One of these destroyers would cause absolute havoc on the Russian airforce and navy, before it got sunk. Russia would lose out no matter what
Ever heard of loitering munitions? Look up Armenian war.
Ever heard of Zircon?
@@HoLeeChit11 Well since it is still under going trials as of March 26th 2021 i think it's a safe bet there are none in active service since they are still undergoing trials.
@@nationalist5422 How are loitering munitions any different to cruise missiles? In fact, they are easier to shoot down than the targets this ship was designed to defend against.
@@Dazzxp You conduct a trial after any maintenance period or work on the engines....? Surely you didn't actually mean that...
Britannia rule the waves! Again!
Only four of the destroyers will receive harpoon missiles but they will be withdrawn from service in 2023. After that those ships will have no dedicated anti-ship capabilities because there is no immediate replacement available. That is absolutely insane. They also don't have anti-submarine capabilities, so no torpedoes or something like ASROC. Only the heli can engage submarines. They are also lacking serious land-attack capabilities except for that little gun. Furthermore they can only carry 48 missiles in those vls cells since they can't quadpack them like ESSM missiles on american destroyers. 48 missiles isn't much. One or two saturation attacks and these ships will be out of ammo. Comparing all this with american or japanese destroyers raises the question what the actual fck were the people in charge of this program thinking when they decided to aquire those half-assed ships. It should be a no-brainer to have them equipped with all types of weapons like their american counterparts for example.
Good analysis my friend, I actually laughed when u said " Wht the FCk were the people in charge doing w/ this etc...
I agree it's potential is huge and it has hugely advanced technology but it's not used correctly the UK has no bollocks anymore
Perfectly stated. IMO the UK should have just bit the bullet and bought Arleigh bruke class destroyers, that are mostly stripped(if they wanted, and would help the price differential) , this way the UK could add Sampson and whatever other radars and control centers they wanted(while still creating UK jobs) and keeping the US VLS, but then mixing and matching as now the UK would also have AEGIS and could use the SM3 and ESSM, etc from the US VLS. You would then have a tested design, keeping R&D prices down, making how much the AB class cost negligible.
@@ThatCarGuy yeah hopefully they learn from the mistake
@ENGLISH KNIGHT what ship and what fleet
Make vedio on india vishkpatnam class and Kolkata class destroyer.
in reality RN or even USN operation in the Black Sea is just a gesture by Politicians or Admirals with zero strategic or naval understanding and who simply expect states to dissolve like Gorbachev who was actually some sort of insignificant agricultural official. Naval matters are determined by the map and will. The Ukraines beleived even a foxtrot, 1960 double hull diesel sub could block the Dardanelles or Bosphorous, narrow straights like mines in 1915. With 4/6 kilo subs diesels highly silences and capable of 28 knots for 3 hours, Russia offers a more formidable block if it wanted to exit or entry to the Black sea than any RN or USN , SSN. Russian submarines not to mention overwhelming regional airpower and electronic warfare capablity shown in the shut down of USS Thomas Cook mean that effective RN or USN deployment in the Black Sea is imposible and after all lack of USN navigating officers put 4/5 Ticonderoga and Aerleight Burke destroyers on the rocks 5/6 years ago in Asian open waters
The argentinians taught the royal navy hard lessons. This must be the result.
How did that war turn out again?
Lol
pretty sure that lesson was dealt out by the British they travelled half way around the globe in a period of massive dis-armament and military overhauls and kicked Argentina's butt in it's own back yard.
Really? They attacked the war ships and left the logistic and landing ships alone. Clever! really clever! Back to BA for slaps on the back and medals. Meanwhile some of the world best trained professional war fighters are landing ashore.
Six type 45's built, only one operational.
the trick is Missile capacity, the 45 can track 1000 objects but can only kill 48, would be interested to know what the reload time for the cells was and if the UK has purchased reloads ? I remember the Falklands war and when push came to shove we didn't even have enough ammunition in store for the small arms ( had to send transport planes to the US to get more bullets! )
Funny you should mention that. I was in the army 1978-82. I was stationed in West Berlin during the Falklands war, and ammo for anything other than operational use was severely limited. Even new kit to replace old worn out kit was even more difficult to get than before. I asked the QM why, and he answered everything is being prioritised for the troops involved in the Falklands.
Im pretty sure a ship carrying them was sunk.
@@jaredgarbo3679 Yup, the Atlantic Conveyor. The Denims I wanted to replace my worn out ones ended up at the bottom of the South Atlantic!
@@limedickandrew6016 Thank you for sharing, that's a very interesting story.
@Raider Primus dragon fire isn’t in service.
you know the Russian pilots would have pissed their pants if there fighters were “painted“ by that ships radar
same to british pilots on russian warships
I'm frigging afraid of destroyers... :(
But I suppose all the surface ships are afraid of a single nuclear submarine.
nope
It all depends. Submarine very powerful and stealthy .
Also can die easy from sigle air launched torpedo if know where it is.
Certainly will take a submarine over any number of Zumwalt destroyers
@@puellamservumaddominum6180 modern subs are very very quiet so getting attack criteria on a modern sub to drop a torpedo and get a kill is very difficult
Uk has stealth submarines does Russia no
@@michaeljohnson4258 submarines especially boomers are tracked and followed as soon as leave port
I'm not watching this video because the secrets of this ship was found on a bus stop. Everyone already knows. If you don't watch the tv show, Google she and the page's. On a bus stop
Planted, clearly..
Shame to say it yes. Wish I found it. Omg I'd read and love to give back
48 missiles isn't enough for true fleet defense. Literally twice as many cells on US Burkes. AND, those Burkes will have 10ish of those cells filled with ESSM (50Km range) that are quad packed so 40 missiles in 10 cells.
"Just How helpful is Type 45 Destroyer." --- That how this video should be named!
Defends the aircraft carriers by supplying anti missile support capabilities that the carrier does not have
@@grahamlongley8298
I'm russian. Hi! _))))
6 August 2021, it was reported, that only One type 45 is currently sea worthy. Apparently 5 of 6 undergoing some type of repair or waiting repairs. The type 45 has been a nightmare of propulsion type problems even when new.
That’s not quite correct, HMS Dragon is also sea worthy and is just undergoing light maintenance alongside in Portsmouth.
DAMN THAT THING IS FORMIDABLE! GOOOO UK!
Fooking not amazing Type45 can track 1k~2k targets, 1k targeting lock but what the fuck , it only carries 48 missile nyahaha 😹😹😹 stupidity on the ministry of defense. It didn't have capability to defend and destroy a submarine of it's own. Why relying only in 1 helicopters when you can launch both torpedoes at the same time.
Yeap the Royal Navy needs to start the super dreadnought or super destroyer now
Which one better between type 45 and type 55 (PLA), both destroyer ?
Are you joking? 😂😂
Type 55 is better ofc. But that's because it was made to be - it's a ship killer. Type 45 was made to be an air-defence ship and it does that really well.
@@ali_kazmi T45 is designed for AA operations in a Carrier strike group, right?
@@JB17521or Basically, the British Royal Navy has planned to make ships for the carrier strike group. On their own these ships are decent (not amazing) but together they are very effective. The Type 45 will act as an air defence ship, the Type 26 Frigate as an anti-submarine warfare ship and Type 31 as a general purpose frigate. These ships (and the astute class submarines) will protect the two Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers.
@Raider Primus *heavy cruiser to a battleship*
Not powerful enough. Dinky 48 Cell VLS, which would get overwhelmed in a swarm attack. Crap anti ship harpoon missiles, which would be be blown out of the air by an average air defence system. Apart from the Wildcat helicopter, a woeful anti submarine armament. It essentially needs T23’s to defend it. VLS doesn’t cater for cruise missiles, so we wont be using the T45 to plaster terrorist targets in Afghanistan. It does have an amazing radar, just not enough teeth.
Need to add anti-submarine weapins
That’s what frigates are for
To add ASW weapons you’d also need to add a whole suite of dedicated sensors as well. It’s not quite so simple as sticking a couple of torpedo launchers on her, there’s the passive and/or active sonars, their associated systems and crew to operate them, not to mention adding some sort of transport system from the magazine.
The Merlin or Wildcat are capable of engaging subs but the Type 23 is a dedicated ASW platform, so in any environment where the ASW threat is substantial then a Type 45 wouldn’t be the asset you use or you’d pair it with a 23 or other NATO ASW asset.
it has anti sub weapons,do your homework
As I pointed out the helicopter has ASW weapons, there’s a difference to them being fitted on the ship with the associated sensor suite.
If you want to rely on the fit of a Wildcat to find and engage an SSN then be my guest.
Not that I’d know, I’ve only served on ASW frigates hunting Russian SSN’s during the Cold War.
The anti-submarine weapon is not at all being designed for anti-submarine warfare.... And deafening the subs searching for it 😂
Type 45 destroyer's worst nightmare :
Russian coast guard ship
China called they say they are going to hack the blueprints and make their own version, they said thanks for doing all the research for them.
The UK doesn't allow Chinese spies to steal blueprints for our top military assets unlike the Yanks who have been infiltrated and compromised numerous times including the speaker of the house and Eric Swalwell to name just two.
there are Chinese people on board every royal navy ship. (laundry men known as dhobi wallahs). china does not need to hack anything. can you believe how stupid our politicians are?
@@toshe.6690 yes, easily.
Hoping for a EMP attack to test their system ,,,, but , the Bear keep it for the day when the Gloves come of ,,,,, remember the American ship drifting around and sailors resigning hahaha
Re-write that in English
Seriously .. Does the name Admiral Kuznetsov ring any bells?
@@paulevans7742 What do you mean by that?
well, send it into black sea to crimea and confront the russians and see ???
Remember the russians ,learned from the the uk and the netherlands how to build ships ,and they used the intelligence and know how of the dutch to lift the submarine Kursk ! Never forget many saylors in ww2 ,on the cold run to deliver equipmnent to Murmansk ,many saulors lost there life this is never
Given much attention ,look at a large memorial in Rotterdam for the diseased saylors .
It's not powerful. It's offensive ability is almost zero. It's defensive ability is a few missiles. It's a peace time design.
I agree. If it came up against the Moskva Class of ships it would get annihilated. The British Royal Navy have no business poking its nose in Russian territory- and I’m British. Make no mistake, I love my country. Sadly, the UK is run by a gang of absolute cunts (who all need shooting) and should not be nosing around in the Black Sea.
Boris is right that wasn't a warning shot, that was a gun salute.
The very procurement process that the MOD created, is causing the very cost overruns, that the government criticized. Lol
Yah ....beraninya hanya kepada negara lemah...caba tu sm sama Rusia atw china pasti kabur...
Missles being housed in a separate compartment atop the Deck makes it easier to hit but also mitigates damage if they are hit
A war is likened to a game of chess . It is a civilised way to determine the winner without losing any loved ones in the battle . Eventually nukes will be used as the battle becomes hotter and serious . HUMAN may not see the skies and turned into rats living underground . Let us live as one Hunan being . Think of MARS , probably the surviving inhabitants are living in underground cities .
Nuke will never be used.
What's to say that someone may use nukes as a opening gambit? Like you, most seem to assume they may be used *eventually* to tip the sway of a battle. But what if they are deployed right from the outset? You'd always hope nobody is actually crazy enough to do it, but..............
NO GRENADE LAUNCHERS , IT MIGHT TAKE OUT AIR MISSILES BUT WHAT ABOUT TORPEDOES , BOMBS,ANTI SUBMARINES WEAPONS AND SEA MINES ? . IT CAN BECOME A EASY TARGET FOR THEM .
I think people with more brain cells than you have already thought about this
torpedos are considered pretty primitive weapons nowadays, they travel significantly slower than missiles due to the water resistance, and with the radar capabilities on these ships nothing submerged can really get close enough to hit them.
@@matty2076 ship’s radar cannot see underwater.
Afaik, it has a towed sonar, and mainly relies on its helicopters for submarine defence before they can teach torpedo range
@@Jo-rz6bs helicopter has limited use.
Rusky Coast Guard hoping harsh words might scare off a type 45 Destroyer. Good Luck with that.
If "get away from my territory" is harsh word for u, that means you're idiot
Does not how powerful this ship and if you are going against Russia then any ship will burns.
Sure, the Russian ships will indeed spontaneously catch fire and sink.
I love when these videos go on and on about how powerful a weapons system is. Using the manufactures info. Yet totally unproven. Better to see how they stack up in battle. Type 42 was praised as high tech in the early eighties, aluminum superstructures and sea dart. Argentinians helped correct the manufactures data on those weapons systems and technologies. Truth is no idea how well it will work in a full scale battle, tell it happens, problem is there is so much hype tactics grow around the hype. That becomes a recipe for disaster.
Just watch a video of KSA's Patriot Pac 3 trying to stop a old seventies Houthi missile! The Patriot Pac 3 takes out the 7-11 and a few residential buildings, fails to hit anything.Yet it can track 1000 targets small as a humming bird able to intercept missiles at mach 3 blhaaa blhaa blhaa.
The US gave the British zero chance to take back the Falkland's, due to being faced by a large navy, a land based air force and having no AWACS. not to mention the distance from home.
look how that turned out....
sea dart actually performed better than it did on paper.
even hitting a 4.5 inch navel shell in flight.
and it got the first intercept of an anti ship missile ever in actual combat.
yes the type 42 got lengthened due to hull cracking. but they did spend months in the worst seas on the planet.. the southern ocean in autumn/winter.
All in all the campaign left the American navy a bit bemused.
we chased the argentine navy into port, gutted their air force. and trounced their conscript army.
with a single large taskforce.
No idea what point you are trying to make. Of course nothing is proven until it's proven in actual warfare so what is your alternative? Are you suggesting that countries should go to war to test their newest weapons? You're not making sense.
Ur speaking facts bro. No system is perfect. No weapon is perfect. No ship is perfect. Period
@@Mk1Male The OP used sea dart to try to prove that weapons are not as good as their sale sheet.
ironically sea dart performed better than its sales sheet at both low targets and at high targets at range.
in an actual war.
i was agreeing with him that "on paper" and "in real war" are two different things.
hence the US thinking we could not win the war on paper.
but both are examples of overperforming, not underperforming.
which is the exact opposite of the point he was trying to make.
@@Mk1Male No I am suggesting that when one reviews a weapon and makes a video about said weapon claiming to be a military channel presenting themselves as an authority on the subject they should do more then read the manufactures sales pitch. To each his own and all that, they can make what they want and I can comment on it. This is where we are. Now to me I am not sure if it makes sense but thats how its set up.
DARING class ship hmmm
Total armament: 48 anti-air missiles
So all I need is 49 cheap loitering munitions to destroy the radar. Got it.
+ 2x Phalanx CIWS
That’s like all the nerds who talk about 1V1 battleship fights. Never happens. Ships are units in a task group.
Wrong you do not understand the type 45 radar and sensor system and the missles its carries. They are one shot high kill. The type T45 can fire 32 missiles and control them at the same time to their targets. No other ship in the world can do that. The US burke has 96 missiles and US doctrine says fire 2 per target, also their radar is not up to scratch so part of the targetting is done manually. This means it cannot fire most of missles at the same time, bascially it has to limit missles fires to below 20 per salvo, that is a big thing in the age of 4 mach missles coming at you. So you have limited radar targeting capability and firing two missles per target, which nulifies the missle advantage of the burke. Effectiviely the Bruke class has problems dealing with saturation attack of 20 more missiles. Better to have one shot per kill and before you say it, the Type 45 could and should have more missles it just means more targets to lock on and destroy. No other ship can do that or could in future except a modified burke.
Great destroyer by our beloved British ally. 🇺🇸🤝🇬🇧
With all due respect, the type 45 destroyer is nowhere near the air defense destroyer of Arleigh Burke. It's definitely the best air defense destroyer Great Britain has ever developed but the 48 tube sea viper launcher limit to Astre 15 and Astre 30 missiles can't begin to compare to 96 tubes of the Mark 41 launcher firing evolved sea Sparrow missiles, sm2MRs, sm2ER's sm6 and the ballistic missile interceptors sm3.....
Yeah it's more of a long range interceptor and does lack long fire fight endurance due to the limited missile holdings.
get a life
The US radar is junk.
Have any of the Arleigh Burk class ever been asked to switch off its radar during NATO exercises because its capabilities were 'constraining the exercise' ? they are different ships with different capabilities
@@paulevans7742 ridiculous!
Excellent ship! Now if the commanders had some brains it will be awesome!
They are getting upgrades I think. and multi purpose frigates that will also do a destroyers job is currently underway. No mater what I still think these type 45 will be in excellent use for a good few years yet and I hope if anything can be handed to a commonwealth countries when we have superior
Whilst still looking after our family we shouldn't help defend beter and with that with beter equipment come beter defence .its our duty to defend the rule of law .
@@Pdh24 you mean you can update the HSS commanders brain? a modulor brain fit for future upgrades?? LMAO
@@liran547 Yeah, right. Im sure after a big lung full of crack that all made sense, however, to us that don't partake in this passtime it's just pure and utter nonsense.
@@Pdh24 It looks like the navy is assessing the options for an anti-ballistic missile capability, so they might finally get the 16 full length cells they were designed with.
Would that be the qualification you're offering?
Perhaps it will be more lucky then HMS Sheffield or more capable in electronics then USS Donald Cook
HMS Sheffield sank more due to crew failings than equipment failings. Primary failure was that the IO aboard Sheffield thought they were out of range of the Super Etendards, not realizing they could refuel air to air, so the ship was at a more relaxed state than it should have been. The main radar was switched blanked out at the time due to other ship to ship communications.
@@paulevans7742 the issue was that SCOT (sat comms) was being used which in affect deafened the ships EW kit and therefore did not detect the attacking aircrafts radar furthermore, the Argentinian pilots pecked the lobes of the 965 LRAW radar to get as close as possible before releasing the weapon. Nothing to do with the ships company's failings.
A grain of sand compered with Russia power
Ok Vlad bot.
052D:区区45型不过土鸡瓦狗。055:吾视45型如插标卖首尔。
Maybe you should try to speak English wumao
It may be powerful, but can’t handle the Russia.