Hi "Uncle." I'll give you the benefit of my knowledge about PAF's, gained over 20+ years of reverse engineering them, a long nasty brutal road...First of all in 1963, PAF's were DONE. They stopped being produced after 1960. BUT, they still had lots of PAF's laying around, so they used them up, so they do show up as late as '64, which is what Eric's 335 was, and its documented his had real PAF's. Any of their guitars that had GOLD trimming, well the gold plated PAF's were on very few guitars so they often show up on much later guitars, because few guitars were gold plated trim, so they had lots of PAF's left over.. So, all you can do it next time you change strings, unscrew the rings on the neck pickup, pull it out and look on the bottom. You won't hurt anything by doing that. No PAF decal, not a PAF. But its not quite as simple as that. There were TRANSITIONAL buckers made, that were neither PAF nor Patent. They had elements of both. I own one that has a PAF decal, but it has the poly nylon red wire in it and the black and white coil leads of the Patents. There just aren't any hard and fast "rules" that cover everything, and I've seen them from every year they were made, dissected them from every year, and had a Senior Metallurgist in a huge steel factory, run the steel parts thru their huge high tech labs for me, over a 6 year period; we covered every pickup Gibson made from 1937-1977, so it was a literal history of steel making I saw from actual PAF parts and the other pickups they made, Patents, TTops, Charlie Christian pickups, PAF minibuckers (few even know about those), and had vintage magnet wire analyzed by Elektrisola's labs. None of these mentors charged me a dime. Your cherry 335 sounds more like PAF's the other sounds like Patents. (maybe I got that backwards, am half asleep here. "Steel" is not the secret of their tone, neither is magnets nor magnet wire nor anything else. Its because they were made in that short time period , with period materials, that have no direct equivalent in our times. So........first of all the "unequal winds" is a myth. Its not true, but persists on the internet forums. They wound BOTH coils with identical winds. What few if any really know, is that each of those bobbins, coil and slug, were NOT identical pieces of plastic. There's stuff I don't talk about and this borders on that. You wind 5,000 winds on a slug coil on a real PAF bobbin, and wind the same recipe 5000 winds on the pole bobbin, you're going to get an offset reading between them of about .2K ohms. Its the same number of turns, but one of the coils is going to have MORE actual LENGTH of wire on it, so you get this mismatch reading. That by itself means nothing. "Power" is NOT measured in "ohms." The true measurement is VOLTAGE OUTPUT. And all that counts is how many TURNS of wire you have, the ohms readings affect nothing. One turn of wire equals one unit of VOLTAGE output. 5000 winds was the official winding recipe and it came from the 10,000 winds recipe from P90's. So, two coils 5,000 winds each, same recipe as P90's. This usually equals PAF's and P90's in the 7.5K +/- range. Thats why most PAF's measure that low reading, the higher winds ones in the 8.6K ranges are what most famous players were lucky to have. Alot less harshness and more power from more winds. Hope you're not going glassy-eyed here, there's more to come here: Of the zillions of PAF's I've restored, I've never found any one of them that weren't great. But you have to know some things about this. If you got a burst with both PAF's being 7.5K, the bridge is going to be really almost harsh and not pleasant, it just doesn't work very well, But in neck a 7.5K PAF is going to give you beautiful clarity. Even an early TTop with that reading will sound great in the neck. So, here's another thing nobody knows about. You get a set of PAF's that have sat in a desk drawer for 30 years, you plug it in and it sounds dull and dismal. When PAF's are not routintely played, they "go to sleep." I'm not kidding here. They have to be played again for at least two full months. There's some kind of weird physics going on that can't be measured or quantified, or explained. Customers of mine who said they bought some PAF's and hated them, I told them, play the hell out of them for two months and get back to me. Every single one of those guys came back and told me they then worshipped those pickups after being played that long. There are other things to know......The braided shield wire they used back then ROTS. The cotton black insulation layer just rots and also the braided shield wire itself degrades so badly you can't even solder to it anymore. I've seen this many times, the rotted cotton makes the insulation properties fail and the oxidized braid also dims the treble content of the PAF. I think the same thing happens with "bad" 'bursts. The entire harness is rotted wire. That or the low wind PAF's are just too edgy. Duane Alman's gold top is one of those, it doesn't have its original PAF's in it, both PAF's in it now are the ones he didn't like, and both are 7.3K. The Patent pickups are when they changed the magnet wire to cheaper poly nylon wire, its not as good sounding as the original plain enamel wire. They also began using shorter magnets and alnico 5 became more standard. There were other change too, that I don't talk about. Sometimes you can find Patent buckers that are actually PAF's from the transition. They may have Patent decals but you find they have still the plain enamel brown/purplish wire in them are a higher winds up in the 8K+ ranges, and have black coil leads off each coil. The complete OTHER part of all this is that those vintage Les Pauls were made with woods and materials that don't exist in our times. I did a four episode video series on my channel using real vintage hardware parts and closest modern parts that just don't ever quite get there. In the four episodes, I progressively made changes on a stock Gibson LP and by the fourth episode, the guitar sounded ten times better in the pursuit of fixing Gibson's mistakes. Me and four other guys also recreated the original ABR1 bridges that really WERE an integral part of old LP sound. Took us two years and a ton of money to pull it off, but no ne had ever even tried to do that. Anyway, drop by my channel if you want to learn more about vintage PAF's and HEAR many of them I've worked on and saved from the trash can. Love your video, any questions you have just contact me. I wrote for Burst Believers II and other magazines and websites, and am putting it all together in a my own book finally, something that won't go out of print, hopefully. Thanks for the great video.
Wow! Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this SD. Most guys play as a hobby and as a result can't spring for vintage on every guitar they buy (actually the greatest player I ever heard in my life, with the possible exception of Lenny Breau, was an electrical engineer, not a _pro_ ). That makes this info way more important to guys spending $1500 to $8K or so. If you make your living playing, you can dedicate way more resources toward guitars, and play a ton of vintage ones till you find 'the one.' Nobody is swapping pickups out on Tom's burst...lol.
Justin Hawkins is the only other YT show I watch. I love his series where someone sends him a song and he can only comment good things about it. Does Uncle Larry really like Hawkins or just a bit? They are so on opposite ends of the spectrum in personality, but equally respectful and nice.
The gem in this video is the fact that a man with as much experience and decades of hard work hours on all kinds of guitars as our dear Unc just said “you were right and I was wrong”. Be willing to say that is the key to lifelong learning. Just might be the most important lesson I have to be better at practicing. Thanks for the reminder Tom….. Happy Christmas
Uncle Larry, I turn 74 in three weeks. I started playing guitar when I was 14 and I'm still learning. Thanks for your time and knowledge. Much appreciated.
Such a great vid UL! Vintage pickers like lonesome and me remember the no pedel era when we had to listen and learn to try milk a decent tone like you explained and demonstrated…clearly you have the ears and talent to know the difference and will make the right decision on which 335 you’ll keep
In 2001 I worked in a guitar shop and a 59 Burst came in. After it was set up I played it thru a cranked blackface super I have NEVER had an experience like that with a guitar before or since. Felt like another person took over my body and was playing That guitar gave back ten times what you put into it
That was very revealing. Both 335s were very good but, if I had to choose one it would be the sunburst. That Burst killed both of them. Tom, it is great to see you are still learning, the mark of a true artist.
This episode is fucking amazing, Tom. Thanks for this one. I’ve really wondered about how these types of guitars truly compare. Two 63 335 and a burst with your hands showing these details is a true Christmas miracle.
As much as I think it would be cool to have a nice vintage guitar I'm glad it is in the hands of guys like you, and other artists who can bring out the best of those iconic instruments. I'm not hurting with my very non-vintage 2016 LP. It may not be the best of the breed but I love it and it is mine. Happy Holidays and thank you for the great content!
I gotta tell you, you got a lot of heart, a ton of passion and amazing skill. I set down my guitar over the summer and fall cause I just couldn’t seem to get to where I wanted to be. I’ve been beat to hell this year and man just brutal shit. I haven’t been around and just had been letting go. Then I said enough, and this my brother is where I came to put myself back on the road. Lotta love for ya brother, thanks for always being here even when I haven’t been.
Uncle Larry - thank you for the sage advice concerning 335 PAFs as well as the sustain on your Burst. Being at the gig Tuesday night, you took us to tone school, making a lonely Princeton Reverb sound huge. It was a pleasure to meet you after the show for a minute with my wife. Thank you for your time - you guys rocked Merry Christmas to you and your family and stay warm this weekend my friend. Your wisdom is greatly appreciated.
So great that you got your burst. Totally agree with you on the PAFs. I had a lovely '62 335 and that I never could understand why I loved my friends '63 more. Lot's of water under that bridge. now. Happy Holidays, teach.
How these video's you publish don't have 100K plus views each is just crazy....You have the most down to earth refreshing and entertaining video's on RUclips....Merry Christmas to everyone!!!
Great stuff. I’d get the cherry 335 refretted and re-saddled before making your decision. I’ve had varying results stringing through the tailpiece vs. over: usually over sounds janglier or “stringier” but sometimes it only affects how the strings feel. The cherry 335 might beef up some with no more than a through-tailpiece restring. My old SG has nylon saddles and a snappy, quacky, snarly sound. Pat. No. pickups, both around 7.7KOhms DC resistance. I don’t own another guitar that plays and sounds like it so it’s staying. ☺️
Otis sent me here via a link, after hearing your awesome stories about gigging with Joe Walsh. Secondly: While both 335's sound great, I would keep the burst, if it were me. Third, that LP is to die for! Fourth: I HAVE FOUND MY FAVORITE GUITARIST PERTAINING TO SHARING VALUABLE INFORMATION & INSIGHT !!! Lastly: I'm 61 yrs old & gigged for years locally here in central Florida, and I'm totally addicted to the tone of older guitars. The less pedals, the better. If I had a limited budget for buying a guitar and tube amp, I would spend the majority of it ON THE GUITAR. The guitar is by far the most important element in the sound chain. THIS WAS MY FIRST VIDEO TO WATCH ON YOUR CHANNEL, AND I'M TOTALLY STOKED. I feel like I just met the best jammin' buddy & guitar/gear guide around.........I feel like I found my way home to a long lost friend who speaks from the heart, great points, with no BS. First video, and you've already caused me to ponder more than I have in many years. THANK YOU BROTHER!!! Steve........Melbourne, Fl.
I remember your comments about the SGs and was thinking about that when you started gushing over the burst. Not that i was holding you to anything -- there is always context and nuance to consider. But i appreciate that you've clarified. Not everyone watches your videos necessarily in order. I know I didn't at first. That burst is really a beautiful guitar!
Hey Tom, I hope you watch this video back. The red one is much more balanced across all registers both are exceptional instruments, but you should keep the read.
I agree about pickup selections on Les Pauls. I’m going for that same sort of tone you go for Tom. I made a leap and decided to go with a direct replica of Billy Gibbons pickups in his pearly gates , they’re made by Cream T pickups, Thomas Nilsen. He claims they are 100% replicas. Man, they are my favourite humbuckers in my 59 reissue. I’m convinced. As for your decision on which one to keep, I’d keep that burst. That’s the guitar that stands out to me as being the guitar that suits your playing. The guitar you sold Ford was the one… man, that must have been a hard decision to let that one go. Then again, you do own that gorgeous 58 now instead. Congrats! Merry Christmas Tom. All the best! ✌️🎄
The amount of musical knowledge you drop on us is astounding, Uncle Larry. Thank you, from the bottom of my music loving heart. I hope you and your family have a very merry Christmas this year. I love that burst 335, and that sustain is wonderful, as is the tone, but when I hear that cherry 335, oh man! Less sustain, but Killer tone. Now I'm only hearing the sound through earbuds at the moment, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I'll probably have another listen through some good studio headphones later on for fun. I have a non-musician friend, who's a girl, but she's got great ears. I don't usually make a guitar purchase without getting her opinion first. I should let her have a listen to this video and ask what she thinks 😂. Good luck with making that difficult choice, Uncle.
Question for Uncle Larry and/or the fans: What electrics are the easiest to play sitting down? My adult kids absconded with mine over the years but Uncle Larry and Rick Beato have inspired me to get back to playing and learning in my old age. Knees are shot so I can't stand and play for really long periods of time. Thanks so much for the inspiration and knowledge.
Hey, Uncle Larry. Every second of this class was riveting. Thank you. It was 225 Parsons Street and kind of still is. The Heritage guitars are still there. It's an interesting story from when Gibson left for Nashville. I think you'd like it and also understand it, from the perspective of the guys and their families who wanted to stay. I have a couple of their guitars and it kind of feels good to pick them up. I'm that level of player where the story of a thing contributes a lot to the playing experience. Not good enough, at all, to abandon sentimentality as part of the experience. Hell, a lot of Homeskoolin' classes get me emotional. See?
Super gnarly here in CO. TEMPS @ -9 currently. Great day to stay in, drink beer, play guitar, and roast meat in the oven. Appreciate you Tom. Thanks for all that you do.
From this video, I'd say they're actually two different guitars and maybe check the stack to see if there is something else that needs to go more than one of these. Your tone demos are unrivaled though, free lessons of high caliber always appreciated. Thank you for putting this together and publishing it.
Hey Tom! Thank you so much for the show the other night. I couldn't be there but had a fantastic time watching it on the internet. I really appreciate that you put these shows together for your fans. You always blow me away with your endless creativity. Best to you and yours and keep up the great content please! Merry Christmas sir!
Trivia Larry... Gibson was 225 Parsons St iin Kzoo. Heritage Guitars is now located there in a new portion of the factory. The old Gibson facility is targeted to be a Hard Rock Hotel with a performance venue... no construction to date, may be delayed due to the pandemic. There are some great people that stayed when Gibson moved out to create Heritage. It's a generation that is leaving us... but just good folk!
Tom, do you think all great sounding guitars are accounted for already and traded between high end players / collectors? And is it possible for a newer guitar to come out with the magic.
Very interesting Uncle Larry always learning something!! Those PAFs are definitely tricky.. Thanks for what you do!! Enjoy that burst you certainly deserve it!!! Hunker down and do those Yuenglings! I'm in Michigan and it's not looking great this weekend!! Stocked up also with my beverage of choice! 🥶 Merry Christmas!!!
Great video! I have some of that excessive nasal thing going on in the bridge pickup of my '64 335. What really helped was lowering the pole pieces into the pickup.
Uncle Larry Rides Again,... Again. Love the nerding out, u pretty much covered all the bases and then some on double humbucker guitars in one breath, fair play dear chap👏
Love when you indulge us with the gear episodes! So much incredible knowledge. Do you have a specific recommendation for bridge / saddle replacements for the nylon saddle gang? My vote is the sunburst!
Great video. Both if those 335s sound awesome, while very different. The old Gibson factory in Kalamazoo was on Parsons street. They're making Heritage guitars there now.
The Burst 335 Does it For me, that extra girth in the mids is killing it. Keep the Burst. And the LP Well, keep that Also. Thanx Tommy, very Eye Opening.
The bridge pickup on the burst definitely has that Cream era Clapton at the Royal Albert Hall sound. Which is interesting in that the Cherry is the one at least looks wise that he was using at the time.
Wow, all cool guitars. My early 70s cherry 335 chopper sounds great, but it has a little of that plunkiness on some of the high frets. That burst is something else.
Early on in the “Corona Lessons” days I was doing dishes and scrolling RUclips and the thumbnail of a guy with a cool looking 335 caught my eye so I clicked on it. It was some of the best guitar tone I’d ever heard and I’ve watched every episode since. You can’t sell the burst 335, it’s just too good and you make it sound like nobody else.
I ain’t quite in the early 60s league when it comes to guitars. But I do want to share that I got myself a lovely 1972 335 recently and it’s absolutely awesome. Those (good) old guitars have some magic in them.
Good Stuff Tom... Merry Christmas to you and your family... Thanks so much for all the posts and info this year... take care brother 👍 Vote for the Tobacco Burst
had a blonde dot neck 59 reissue I bought in the early 80's for $750, wish I never sold it. Your right about the nylon saddles , terrible, I changed them.
I liked your comment that back in the day there weren't as many pedals. To that point, I grew up playing in rock bands in the 60's and the only pedals at the time were a Fuzzface and a Wah-wah. (Check out the Chicago concert at Tanglewood - Kath only had a wah). Then in a few short years many other distortion pedals and other types of pedals started to appear. For awhile I used a ES345 stereo and one channel ran through a real to real tape recorder for a very smooth fuzz sound. Having grown up in that era, I find these pedal boards with 20 pedals overwhelming - LOL. Interesting to note that oftentimes telecasters were also used for their sustain in that time period. Great discussion.
I completely agree with you Tom. Vintage guitars have that thing that is hard to explain. I have cut heads with a few custom shop reissues against the real deal and there was no comparison! Have a great day!
They’re hand wound and depending if the person winding them loses count can create a significant difference! Imagine that, guitar can play like butter but the next one has the magic amount of winds. But it gives us all something to chase. And endlessly muse about! All very subjective. Great video, thanks
Uncle Larry has been a huge influence on all of us for sure. I recently invoked his "if you aren't using it regularly get rid of it rule." Traded an absolutely wonderful amp I've had for twenty two years, some cash and a lot of horse trading, wrangling, deal making and back-channeling in exchange for a really nice guitar. I was 100% in love with it until I found out our Unc doesn't go for the Gibson brownish faded cherry look. 😀
this episode is so good!!! that being said, i'm always concerned about the middle position, having the right quack, so i lower both pickups to the point of bloom, first the neck and then the bridge, the latter has to be jangly and kerrangy at the same time, but its height is determined by how it blends with the neck pickup. unpotted also is very important for that hollowness, and richness.
Yeah Tom, this stuff you just can’t learn anywhere. Please don’t ever feel like you’re going on too long. About to watch the Bday show! Have a great Christmas with the boys!
I could listen to Uncle Larry playing and talking about 335s and that burst all day long, my humble opinion on the question of which 335… as is, i’d keep the sunburst, no question. But i’d really be interested in another comparison after you sort the bridge/saddles and maybe a refret on the cherry.
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Hi "Uncle." I'll give you the benefit of my knowledge about PAF's, gained over 20+ years of reverse engineering them, a long nasty brutal road...First of all in 1963, PAF's were DONE. They stopped being produced after 1960. BUT, they still had lots of PAF's laying around, so they used them up, so they do show up as late as '64, which is what Eric's 335 was, and its documented his had real PAF's. Any of their guitars that had GOLD trimming, well the gold plated PAF's were on very few guitars so they often show up on much later guitars, because few guitars were gold plated trim, so they had lots of PAF's left over.. So, all you can do it next time you change strings, unscrew the rings on the neck pickup, pull it out and look on the bottom. You won't hurt anything by doing that. No PAF decal, not a PAF. But its not quite as simple as that. There were TRANSITIONAL buckers made, that were neither PAF nor Patent. They had elements of both. I own one that has a PAF decal, but it has the poly nylon red wire in it and the black and white coil leads of the Patents. There just aren't any hard and fast "rules" that cover everything, and I've seen them from every year they were made, dissected them from every year, and had a Senior Metallurgist in a huge steel factory, run the steel parts thru their huge high tech labs for me, over a 6 year period; we covered every pickup Gibson made from 1937-1977, so it was a literal history of steel making I saw from actual PAF parts and the other pickups they made, Patents, TTops, Charlie Christian pickups, PAF minibuckers (few even know about those), and had vintage magnet wire analyzed by Elektrisola's labs. None of these mentors charged me a dime. Your cherry 335 sounds more like PAF's the other sounds like Patents. (maybe I got that backwards, am half asleep here. "Steel" is not the secret of their tone, neither is magnets nor magnet wire nor anything else. Its because they were made in that short time period , with period materials, that have no direct equivalent in our times.
So........first of all the "unequal winds" is a myth. Its not true, but persists on the internet forums. They wound BOTH coils with identical winds. What few if any really know, is that each of those bobbins, coil and slug, were NOT identical pieces of plastic. There's stuff I don't talk about and this borders on that. You wind 5,000 winds on a slug coil on a real PAF bobbin, and wind the same recipe 5000 winds on the pole bobbin, you're going to get an offset reading between them of about .2K ohms. Its the same number of turns, but one of the coils is going to have MORE actual LENGTH of wire on it, so you get this mismatch reading. That by itself means nothing. "Power" is NOT measured in "ohms." The true measurement is VOLTAGE OUTPUT. And all that counts is how many TURNS of wire you have, the ohms readings affect nothing. One turn of wire equals one unit of VOLTAGE output. 5000 winds was the official winding recipe and it came from the 10,000 winds recipe from P90's. So, two coils 5,000 winds each, same recipe as P90's. This usually equals PAF's and P90's in the 7.5K +/- range. Thats why most PAF's measure that low reading, the higher winds ones in the 8.6K ranges are what most famous players were lucky to have. Alot less harshness and more power from more winds. Hope you're not going glassy-eyed here, there's more to come here:
Of the zillions of PAF's I've restored, I've never found any one of them that weren't great. But you have to know some things about this. If you got a burst with both PAF's being 7.5K, the bridge is going to be really almost harsh and not pleasant, it just doesn't work very well, But in neck a 7.5K PAF is going to give you beautiful clarity. Even an early TTop with that reading will sound great in the neck. So, here's another thing nobody knows about. You get a set of PAF's that have sat in a desk drawer for 30 years, you plug it in and it sounds dull and dismal. When PAF's are not routintely played, they "go to sleep." I'm not kidding here. They have to be played again for at least two full months. There's some kind of weird physics going on that can't be measured or quantified, or explained. Customers of mine who said they bought some PAF's and hated them, I told them, play the hell out of them for two months and get back to me. Every single one of those guys came back and told me they then worshipped those pickups after being played that long. There are other things to know......The braided shield wire they used back then ROTS. The cotton black insulation layer just rots and also the braided shield wire itself degrades so badly you can't even solder to it anymore. I've seen this many times, the rotted cotton makes the insulation properties fail and the oxidized braid also dims the treble content of the PAF. I think the same thing happens with "bad" 'bursts. The entire harness is rotted wire. That or the low wind PAF's are just too edgy. Duane Alman's gold top is one of those, it doesn't have its original PAF's in it, both PAF's in it now are the ones he didn't like, and both are 7.3K.
The Patent pickups are when they changed the magnet wire to cheaper poly nylon wire, its not as good sounding as the original plain enamel wire. They also began using shorter magnets and alnico 5 became more standard. There were other change too, that I don't talk about. Sometimes you can find Patent buckers that are actually PAF's from the transition. They may have Patent decals but you find they have still the plain enamel brown/purplish wire in them are a higher winds up in the 8K+ ranges, and have black coil leads off each coil.
The complete OTHER part of all this is that those vintage Les Pauls were made with woods and materials that don't exist in our times. I did a four episode video series on my channel using real vintage hardware parts and closest modern parts that just don't ever quite get there. In the four episodes, I progressively made changes on a stock Gibson LP and by the fourth episode, the guitar sounded ten times better in the pursuit of fixing Gibson's mistakes. Me and four other guys also recreated the original ABR1 bridges that really WERE an integral part of old LP sound. Took us two years and a ton of money to pull it off, but no ne had ever even tried to do that. Anyway, drop by my channel if you want to learn more about vintage PAF's and HEAR many of them I've worked on and saved from the trash can. Love your video, any questions you have just contact me. I wrote for Burst Believers II and other magazines and websites, and am putting it all together in a my own book finally, something that won't go out of print, hopefully. Thanks for the great video.
Wow! Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this SD. Most guys play as a hobby and as a result can't spring for vintage on every guitar they buy (actually the greatest player I ever heard in my life, with the possible exception of Lenny Breau, was an electrical engineer, not a _pro_ ). That makes this info way more important to guys spending $1500 to $8K or so. If you make your living playing, you can dedicate way more resources toward guitars, and play a ton of vintage ones till you find 'the one.' Nobody is swapping pickups out on Tom's burst...lol.
This is fantastic information. Thanks for sharing
The Justin Hawkins bit was great 😂
Justin Hawkins is the only other YT show I watch. I love his series where someone sends him a song and he can only comment good things about it. Does Uncle Larry really like Hawkins or just a bit? They are so on opposite ends of the spectrum in personality, but equally respectful and nice.
Got a good laugh from that. I watch both of these cats .
@@bluesslider76 I think it's funny that Justin religiously has to play his intro before anything else.
He definitely has a signature intro. It made it here lol. Both are funny. Buk is the legend though. He’s right up there with Brent Mason for me .
@@lorikislack1504 I like him too, I randomly came across his video on the Steel Panther music video and I’ve watched quite a few of his posts since
Keep the sunburst Tom! I love the sound of that guitar!
I second that.
The gem in this video is the fact that a man with as much experience and decades of hard work hours on all kinds of guitars as our dear Unc just said “you were right and I was wrong”. Be willing to say that is the key to lifelong learning. Just might be the most important lesson I have to be better at practicing. Thanks for the reminder Tom….. Happy Christmas
Uncle Larry, I turn 74 in three weeks. I started playing guitar when I was 14 and I'm still learning. Thanks for your time and knowledge. Much appreciated.
Such a great vid UL! Vintage pickers like lonesome and me remember the no pedel era when we had to listen and learn to try milk a decent tone like you explained and demonstrated…clearly you have the ears and talent to know the difference and will make the right decision on which 335 you’ll keep
“You could go and have a bite and you’d still be hearing this one”!
Fact
In 2001 I worked in a guitar shop and a 59 Burst came in. After it was set up I played it thru a cranked blackface super
I have NEVER had an experience like that with a guitar before or since.
Felt like another person took over my body and was playing
That guitar gave back ten times what you put into it
One of the best episodes yet! Years and years of knowledge condensed into 16 minutes. Thank you Uncle Larry.
That was very revealing. Both 335s were very good but, if I had to choose one it would be the sunburst. That Burst killed both of them. Tom, it is great to see you are still learning, the mark of a true artist.
I freakin LOVE it when you get deep into the nerdy stuff about these guitars. I learn SO much. Thanks Tom!❤
Totally agree!! This kind of info only comes from years of actually walking the walk. 👍
Not only a talented player and teacher but hysterical. ! The Justin Hawkins bit had me rolling !
This episode is fucking amazing, Tom. Thanks for this one. I’ve really wondered about how these types of guitars truly compare. Two 63 335 and a burst with your hands showing these details is a true Christmas miracle.
As much as I think it would be cool to have a nice vintage guitar I'm glad it is in the hands of guys like you, and other artists who can bring out the best of those iconic instruments. I'm not hurting with my very non-vintage 2016 LP. It may not be the best of the breed but I love it and it is mine. Happy Holidays and thank you for the great content!
I gotta tell you, you got a lot of heart, a ton of passion and amazing skill. I set down my guitar over the summer and fall cause I just couldn’t seem to get to where I wanted to be. I’ve been beat to hell this year and man just brutal shit. I haven’t been around and just had been letting go. Then I said enough, and this my brother is where I came to put myself back on the road. Lotta love for ya brother, thanks for always being here even when I haven’t been.
Uncle Larry - thank you for the sage advice concerning 335 PAFs as well as the sustain on your Burst. Being at the gig Tuesday night, you took us to tone school, making a lonely Princeton Reverb sound huge. It was a pleasure to meet you after the show for a minute with my wife. Thank you for your time - you guys rocked
Merry Christmas to you and your family and stay warm this weekend my friend. Your wisdom is greatly appreciated.
So great that you got your burst. Totally agree with you on the PAFs. I had a lovely '62 335 and that I never could understand why I loved my friends '63 more. Lot's of water under that bridge. now. Happy Holidays, teach.
How these video's you publish don't have 100K plus views each is just crazy....You have the most down to earth refreshing and entertaining video's on RUclips....Merry Christmas to everyone!!!
I mostly watch your videos for the noodling but your genuine love for guitars is mesmerizing. Great video
That burst though, oh my god what a guitar!
I’d have a real hard time getting rid of either but definitely a harder time getting rid of the sunburst. Cool video Tom
Great stuff. I’d get the cherry 335 refretted and re-saddled before making your decision.
I’ve had varying results stringing through the tailpiece vs. over: usually over sounds janglier or “stringier” but sometimes it only affects how the strings feel. The cherry 335 might beef up some with no more than a through-tailpiece restring.
My old SG has nylon saddles and a snappy, quacky, snarly sound. Pat. No. pickups, both around 7.7KOhms DC resistance. I don’t own another guitar that plays and sounds like it so it’s staying. ☺️
Merry Christmas, Uncle Larry! The Starship Trooper! Little Tommy. Cherry!!
That burst is so magical!!!
what a great and interesting episode
thanks Tom
Merry Christmas Uncle Larry. Much respect...
Otis sent me here via a link, after hearing your awesome stories about gigging with Joe Walsh. Secondly: While both 335's sound great, I would keep the burst, if it were me. Third, that LP is to die for! Fourth: I HAVE FOUND MY FAVORITE GUITARIST PERTAINING TO SHARING VALUABLE INFORMATION & INSIGHT !!! Lastly: I'm 61 yrs old & gigged for years locally here in central Florida, and I'm totally addicted to the tone of older guitars. The less pedals, the better. If I had a limited budget for buying a guitar and tube amp, I would spend the majority of it ON THE GUITAR. The guitar is by far the most important element in the sound chain. THIS WAS MY FIRST VIDEO TO WATCH ON YOUR CHANNEL, AND I'M TOTALLY STOKED. I feel like I just met the best jammin' buddy & guitar/gear guide around.........I feel like I found my way home to a long lost friend who speaks from the heart, great points, with no BS. First video, and you've already caused me to ponder more than I have in many years. THANK YOU BROTHER!!! Steve........Melbourne, Fl.
Happy Birthday, Tom!
I remember your comments about the SGs and was thinking about that when you started gushing over the burst.
Not that i was holding you to anything -- there is always context and nuance to consider.
But i appreciate that you've clarified.
Not everyone watches your videos necessarily in order. I know I didn't at first.
That burst is really a beautiful guitar!
Hey Tom, I hope you watch this video back. The red one is much more balanced across all registers both are exceptional instruments, but you should keep the read.
I agree about pickup selections on Les Pauls. I’m going for that same sort of tone you go for Tom. I made a leap and decided to go with a direct replica of Billy Gibbons pickups in his pearly gates , they’re made by Cream T pickups, Thomas Nilsen. He claims they are 100% replicas. Man, they are my favourite humbuckers in my 59 reissue. I’m convinced. As for your decision on which one to keep, I’d keep that burst. That’s the guitar that stands out to me as being the guitar that suits your playing. The guitar you sold Ford was the one… man, that must have been a hard decision to let that one go. Then again, you do own that gorgeous 58 now instead. Congrats!
Merry Christmas Tom. All the best!
✌️🎄
Hey Tom...Amongst the most valuable lessons I learned this year was...The Parts of a Plant...Thank you!!!
“PAF the Magic Dragon”, that’s some funny shit uncle Larry
Mate. I love your brain!
I would happily be your tech handing you guitars to hear everything you've got to say!
Lots of love from Australia.
James.
The amount of musical knowledge you drop on us is astounding, Uncle Larry. Thank you, from the bottom of my music loving heart. I hope you and your family have a very merry Christmas this year. I love that burst 335, and that sustain is wonderful, as is the tone, but when I hear that cherry 335, oh man! Less sustain, but Killer tone. Now I'm only hearing the sound through earbuds at the moment, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I'll probably have another listen through some good studio headphones later on for fun. I have a non-musician friend, who's a girl, but she's got great ears. I don't usually make a guitar purchase without getting her opinion first. I should let her have a listen to this video and ask what she thinks 😂. Good luck with making that difficult choice, Uncle.
I hear the same thing through a nice stereo system. the Red one!
man - I cracked up on the Uncle Larry Rides Again!
That old burst kills them all with that perfect roll of from that long sustained note
You are so right about Paul Kossoff.Really enjoyed this video.Thanks for sharing…
Awesome insight. Very much appreciated Uncle Larry.
Question for Uncle Larry and/or the fans: What electrics are the easiest to play sitting down? My adult kids absconded with mine over the years but Uncle Larry and Rick Beato have inspired me to get back to playing and learning in my old age. Knees are shot so I can't stand and play for really long periods of time. Thanks so much for the inspiration and knowledge.
Hey, Uncle Larry. Every second of this class was riveting. Thank you. It was 225 Parsons Street and kind of still is. The Heritage guitars are still there. It's an interesting story from when Gibson left for Nashville. I think you'd like it and also understand it, from the perspective of the guys and their families who wanted to stay. I have a couple of their guitars and it kind of feels good to pick them up. I'm that level of player where the story of a thing contributes a lot to the playing experience. Not good enough, at all, to abandon sentimentality as part of the experience. Hell, a lot of Homeskoolin' classes get me emotional. See?
Super gnarly here in CO. TEMPS @ -9 currently. Great day to stay in, drink beer, play guitar, and roast meat in the oven. Appreciate you Tom. Thanks for all that you do.
From this video, I'd say they're actually two different guitars and maybe check the stack to see if there is something else that needs to go more than one of these.
Your tone demos are unrivaled though, free lessons of high caliber always appreciated. Thank you for putting this together and publishing it.
Hey Tom! Thank you so much for the show the other night. I couldn't be there but had a fantastic time watching it on the internet. I really appreciate that you put these shows together for your fans. You always blow me away with your endless creativity. Best to you and yours and keep up the great content please! Merry Christmas sir!
Trivia Larry... Gibson was 225 Parsons St iin Kzoo. Heritage Guitars is now located there in a new portion of the factory. The old Gibson facility is targeted to be a Hard Rock Hotel with a performance venue... no construction to date, may be delayed due to the pandemic. There are some great people that stayed when Gibson moved out to create Heritage. It's a generation that is leaving us... but just good folk!
Uncle Larry Rides Again!
Man you have to keep that Cherry 335! sounds amazing
I have a Cherry Collings I-35 because of Uncle Larry, but when I think of Uncle Larry, I think about that Sunburst 335. My vote is for Sunburst!
Tom, do you think all great sounding guitars are accounted for already and traded between high end players / collectors? And is it possible for a newer guitar to come out with the magic.
If you can produce magic with your playing, no guitar will slow you down
@@501chorusecho wise words, Confucius!
@@501chorusecho Fuck yes.
@@501chorusecho so true 👍
For some reason I love it when Larry plays a 335.
What do I think , I can only come up with word , BRILLIANT!!!
The sunburst has it going on. A lot more top end to my ears ❤
Terrific insights here, thanks so much!
Congrats dude!
Incredible piece of history.
Very interesting Uncle Larry always learning something!! Those PAFs are definitely tricky.. Thanks for what you do!! Enjoy that burst you certainly deserve it!!! Hunker down and do those Yuenglings! I'm in Michigan and it's not looking great this weekend!! Stocked up also with my beverage of choice! 🥶 Merry Christmas!!!
Great video! I have some of that excessive nasal thing going on in the bridge pickup of my '64 335. What really helped was lowering the pole pieces into the pickup.
Uncle Larry Rides Again,... Again. Love the nerding out, u pretty much covered all the bases and then some on double humbucker guitars in one breath, fair play dear chap👏
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences on vintage guitars. I'm with you, vintage has an edge.
Love when you indulge us with the gear episodes! So much incredible knowledge. Do you have a specific recommendation for bridge / saddle replacements for the nylon saddle gang? My vote is the sunburst!
Merry Christmas Uncle Larry Thanks for sharing your years of experience with vintage guitars! Love it👊 Perch and Pierogis
Thanks Tom! 225 Parsons St. They are still making some nice guitars there.
I love that progression at the beginning on the Red one, it has soul - it's refined raw. The Red one for sure no contest!
Really enjoyed the show on Tuesday. The wife was thrilled to meet you. Thanks for being so gracious after a show.
Great video. Both if those 335s sound awesome, while very different. The old Gibson factory in Kalamazoo was on Parsons street. They're making Heritage guitars there now.
Stay Warm Uncle Larry. I hope you didn't lose power. Stay Warm and the best Christmas to you and Yours!!!!!!
Great tips from Uncle Larry!
Thanks.
The Burst 335 Does it For me, that extra girth in the mids is killing it. Keep the Burst. And the LP Well, keep that Also.
Thanx Tommy, very Eye Opening.
The bridge pickup on the burst definitely has that Cream era Clapton at the Royal Albert Hall sound. Which is interesting in that the Cherry is the one at least looks wise that he was using at the time.
Best lesson about 335, les paul and PAF pickups. Tom you should do the same but with your strat, what makes a strat good. Thanks!!
You see? Aaahhhhhahhhhahhhhhh. You could go out and have a bite and you’d still be hearing that one.
Jeez tom, what a decision. I think I like the fuller more bassy sound of the sunburst
Gold Dust from the Deep Minor. Happy Christmas man and stay warm.
LOL.....Uncle Larry Rides Again....Hilarious. Justin is probably thrilled you threw that joke in there...he is a cool cat.
Wow, all cool guitars. My early 70s cherry 335 chopper sounds great, but it has a little of that plunkiness on some of the high frets.
That burst is something else.
Thanks Larry
I’m glad you have that les paul man you deserve it.
Uncle Larry rides again!! I'm gonna say I preferred the red 335 sounds over the sunburst!
Early on in the “Corona Lessons” days I was doing dishes and scrolling RUclips and the thumbnail of a guy with a cool looking 335 caught my eye so I clicked on it. It was some of the best guitar tone I’d ever heard and I’ve watched every episode since. You can’t sell the burst 335, it’s just too good and you make it sound like nobody else.
Thank you very informative 👍👍
The burst. Keep the burst.
I ain’t quite in the early 60s league when it comes to guitars. But I do want to share that I got myself a lovely 1972 335 recently and it’s absolutely awesome. Those (good) old guitars have some magic in them.
Good Stuff Tom... Merry Christmas to you and your family... Thanks so much for all the posts and info this year... take care brother 👍 Vote for the Tobacco Burst
Thank you for mentioning my hero Michael Bloomfield! I am obsessed with Bloomers.
Excellent class! thanks for the valuable info. huge help!
had a blonde dot neck 59 reissue I bought in the early 80's for $750, wish I never sold it. Your right about the nylon saddles , terrible, I changed them.
Oh my, there it is. I think the operative word is gnarly.
I liked your comment that back in the day there weren't as many pedals. To that point, I grew up playing in rock bands in the 60's and the only pedals at the time were a Fuzzface and a Wah-wah. (Check out the Chicago concert at Tanglewood - Kath only had a wah). Then in a few short years many other distortion pedals and other types of pedals started to appear. For awhile I used a ES345 stereo and one channel ran through a real to real tape recorder for a very smooth fuzz sound. Having grown up in that era, I find these pedal boards with 20 pedals overwhelming - LOL. Interesting to note that oftentimes telecasters were also used for their sustain in that time period. Great discussion.
The sunburst sounds just killer.
Very interesting video, thank you for posting UL
I do appreciate you insight. Thank you.
Thanks Tom, great video yet again. Merry Christmas to you and your boys. Hope a tasty ale or two finds you. Cheers 🍻
I completely agree with you Tom. Vintage guitars have that thing that is hard to explain. I have cut heads with a few custom shop reissues against the real deal and there was no comparison! Have a great day!
The top wraping on the cherry can make a difference. Nice thoughts Tom! Love those 335:s! Stay warm.
They’re hand wound and depending if the person winding them loses count can create a significant difference! Imagine that, guitar can play like butter but the next one has the magic amount of winds. But it gives us all something to chase. And endlessly muse about! All very subjective. Great video, thanks
Something immediately hit me when you plugged that sunburst 335 in. It just speaks! Wow.
Uncle Larry has been a huge influence on all of us for sure. I recently invoked his "if you aren't using it regularly get rid of it rule." Traded an absolutely wonderful amp I've had for twenty two years, some cash and a lot of horse trading, wrangling, deal making and back-channeling in exchange for a really nice guitar. I was 100% in love with it until I found out our Unc doesn't go for the Gibson brownish faded cherry look. 😀
this episode is so good!!! that being said, i'm always concerned about the middle position, having the right quack, so i lower both pickups to the point of bloom, first the neck and then the bridge, the latter has to be jangly and kerrangy at the same time, but its height is determined by how it blends with the neck pickup. unpotted also is very important for that hollowness, and richness.
Yeah Tom, this stuff you just can’t learn anywhere. Please don’t ever feel like you’re going on too long. About to watch the Bday show! Have a great Christmas with the boys!
Tom, would you remind us homeskoolers of you tip jar payment options? I'd like to send some Christmas cheer to my favorite uncle
Paypal is tombukovac@gmail.com
Thank you my dear man
Currently thinking of a pickup swap in my Tele, this was really helpful. So many good points
I could listen to Uncle Larry playing and talking about 335s and that burst all day long, my humble opinion on the question of which 335… as is, i’d keep the sunburst, no question. But i’d really be interested in another comparison after you sort the bridge/saddles and maybe a refret on the cherry.