ty for this video! Sometime as someone who wants this class to be its main I worry that Shadowhunter wont be wanted in a lot of the t3 abyssal raid. Do you know if shadowhunter can keep up with other dps classes or do they fall off heavly and become unwanted?
I assume you're referring to Impulse Shadowhunter? If anything, they get a lot better once you set-up your tripods and runes. You also peak faster due to the fact that you only require 2 gems (Demon skills attack & cooldown). They're very sustainable (due to constant transforms) and they provide good destruction (human & demon form) as well as good stagger (demon form). In the end, the most important thing about a DPS is actually staying alive and clearing mechanics; a dead DPS is a no DPS after all. If that still worries you, Impulse Shadowhunters are still very much relevant in KR.
@Bumkey Perfect Suppression is perfectly fine. Bear in mind though, Shadowhunters in general are not top tier in terms of damage; they can't measure up to Sorcs for example. The reason why Impulse Shadowhunter is so popular is due to the cost effectiveness of raising one as well as their durability (self heal on transformation, paralysis immunity while transformed). By playing Perfect Suppression, you're basically forgoing these benefits. In short, Perfect Suppression is perfectly viable and technically does have a higher damage ceiling compared to Impulse, but don't expect to outperform a Sorceress or a Gunslinger, for example, in terms of damage output.
Impulse Demonic really starts to shine at T3, once you complete your Wealth rune, tripod and engravings. Prior to this, you would probably need about 2 full rotation on skills before your identity gauge fills up. The important tripods are the ones that increases identity gauge rate (Demon Vision, Demon's Grip, Demon Clone, Howl & Thrust Impact). The most obvious downside of an Impulse build is that your human form is pathetically weak, which can be a pain when pushing main quest. I would suggest using a non transformation based build for pushing main quest and other generic content.
@@SpectralVessaliux follow up question, why is sharpened cut not included in generating meter? its a good utility skill and I find it handy than thrust impact, what do you think about this skill?
@@donernesto91 Sharpened Cut does not have any identity gauge boosting tripod, so it generates a lot less compared to Thrust Impact. That being said, with the proper tripod + wealth rune + specialization value, you can fill up your gauge entirely with just 4 skills (Demon Vision + Demon Grab + Decimate + Howl). Demon Clone is kept as a back-up in case your Demon Vision doesn't get full ticks in. This allows you to swap out Thrust Impact for another mobility skill, which could be Sharpened Cut. I personally prefer Spinning Dive; with 2-1-2 you can literally zip across the whole screen while having Push immunity.
You can, but you'll be needing Wealth runes and Tripods done to a certain degree. Try to aim for Lv3 Tripods on identity generation: Demon Vision > Howl > Demon Clone > Demon's Grab priority order. This should be enough to get you full gauge when including Impact Thrust, provided you don't miss any of your skills.
@@SpectralVessaliux mostly demonic, but yeah, a general tip would be nice. mp cost cubes on skills and engravings are kinda too much but seems to be the only way. I guess demo is bad for dungeona/raids if youre on a dps build.
@@soupysoup931 If you're running Impulse Demonic, you never have MP issues as her Demon Skills do not have MP cost attached to them. If you're on Controlled Demonic, then MP can be tight at times. This usually doesn't matter for regular raids. In Legion raids, you can use MP regeneration food or have classes that provide MP regeneration (Holy Knight for example).
@@SpectralVessaliux Yeah, I tried your build that seemed to be more end-game suited. Yeah I'm kinda solo everything whether MM or just solo dungs. Found that MP engravings help since i dont have the other Demo engraving for the dps build. I'll def look into food for MP, thank you anyways :)
In this particular raid, there is a mechanic where once you break the boss after a certain point, everyone receives a healing buff. On top of that, Shadowhunters gain 20% max HP when they transform, and they retain the current HP when it expires/de-transform. This effectively heals them for 20% HP whenever they transform.
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ty for this video! Sometime as someone who wants this class to be its main I worry that Shadowhunter wont be wanted in a lot of the t3 abyssal raid. Do you know if shadowhunter can keep up with other dps classes or do they fall off heavly and become unwanted?
I assume you're referring to Impulse Shadowhunter? If anything, they get a lot better once you set-up your tripods and runes. You also peak faster due to the fact that you only require 2 gems (Demon skills attack & cooldown). They're very sustainable (due to constant transforms) and they provide good destruction (human & demon form) as well as good stagger (demon form). In the end, the most important thing about a DPS is actually staying alive and clearing mechanics; a dead DPS is a no DPS after all.
If that still worries you, Impulse Shadowhunters are still very much relevant in KR.
@Bumkey Perfect Suppression is perfectly fine. Bear in mind though, Shadowhunters in general are not top tier in terms of damage; they can't measure up to Sorcs for example. The reason why Impulse Shadowhunter is so popular is due to the cost effectiveness of raising one as well as their durability (self heal on transformation, paralysis immunity while transformed). By playing Perfect Suppression, you're basically forgoing these benefits.
In short, Perfect Suppression is perfectly viable and technically does have a higher damage ceiling compared to Impulse, but don't expect to outperform a Sorceress or a Gunslinger, for example, in terms of damage output.
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can you share us your tripods? with T1 or low specialization, where we cannot fill the meter in one rotation, whats your advice on the tripods?
Impulse Demonic really starts to shine at T3, once you complete your Wealth rune, tripod and engravings. Prior to this, you would probably need about 2 full rotation on skills before your identity gauge fills up. The important tripods are the ones that increases identity gauge rate (Demon Vision, Demon's Grip, Demon Clone, Howl & Thrust Impact).
The most obvious downside of an Impulse build is that your human form is pathetically weak, which can be a pain when pushing main quest. I would suggest using a non transformation based build for pushing main quest and other generic content.
@@SpectralVessaliux noted, thank you.
@@SpectralVessaliux follow up question, why is sharpened cut not included in generating meter? its a good utility skill and I find it handy than thrust impact, what do you think about this skill?
@@donernesto91 Sharpened Cut does not have any identity gauge boosting tripod, so it generates a lot less compared to Thrust Impact.
That being said, with the proper tripod + wealth rune + specialization value, you can fill up your gauge entirely with just 4 skills (Demon Vision + Demon Grab + Decimate + Howl). Demon Clone is kept as a back-up in case your Demon Vision doesn't get full ticks in. This allows you to swap out Thrust Impact for another mobility skill, which could be Sharpened Cut. I personally prefer Spinning Dive; with 2-1-2 you can literally zip across the whole screen while having Push immunity.
1384 specialization and 507 swiftness stats?
Yes, this is a Spec Swift build. The other variation would be Spec Crit, ran without Adrenaline or Adrenaline 1.
We cant get the shadow meter full in 1 rotation even at T3?
You can, but you'll be needing Wealth runes and Tripods done to a certain degree. Try to aim for Lv3 Tripods on identity generation: Demon Vision > Howl > Demon Clone > Demon's Grab priority order. This should be enough to get you full gauge when including Impact Thrust, provided you don't miss any of your skills.
any advice for MP management? Getting punished a lot on a high dps build
Is this for Shadowhunter or a different class?
@@SpectralVessaliux mostly demonic, but yeah, a general tip would be nice. mp cost cubes on skills and engravings are kinda too much but seems to be the only way. I guess demo is bad for dungeona/raids if youre on a dps build.
@@soupysoup931 If you're running Impulse Demonic, you never have MP issues as her Demon Skills do not have MP cost attached to them. If you're on Controlled Demonic, then MP can be tight at times. This usually doesn't matter for regular raids. In Legion raids, you can use MP regeneration food or have classes that provide MP regeneration (Holy Knight for example).
@@SpectralVessaliux Yeah, I tried your build that seemed to be more end-game suited. Yeah I'm kinda solo everything whether MM or just solo dungs. Found that MP engravings help since i dont have the other Demo engraving for the dps build. I'll def look into food for MP, thank you anyways :)
New to this game. But how can you heal up sometimes without using a Potion ?
In this particular raid, there is a mechanic where once you break the boss after a certain point, everyone receives a healing buff. On top of that, Shadowhunters gain 20% max HP when they transform, and they retain the current HP when it expires/de-transform. This effectively heals them for 20% HP whenever they transform.
Whats your tripods?
salvation or hallucination?
Both are fine. Salvation is typically used for Spec/Crit builds, whereas Hallucination can be used for both Spec/Crit and Spec/Swift.
@@SpectralVessaliux I mean what are you using right now?
Is this front back indicator an addon? Because we dont have it in Eu
Yes it is. It should be added to NA/EU soon enough.
Her damage is so bad