Monohull vs Catamaran
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- Monohull vs. Catamaran! Which is best for you? Which should you buy? This video explores the pros and cons of monohulls and catamarans
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This was the clearest, most concise, and unbiased comparison I've ever seen. I came away a much wiser man. Thank you. Keep it up.
christdragon love your profile picture haha
Sailing Puffin, I have found a couple of your videos trying to educate myself on sailing. I want to compliment your style. If you were never a teacher you should have been. You always explain things with simple language and diagrams. You do a great job!
One of the clearest explanations on this topic I've ever seen. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Best 16 minutes and 12 seconds I've spent in awhile.
Really good video. I'm laughing at some of the comments that call this a biased video because their choice is a different choice. I prefer both builds, depending on what I'm doing. I think this is one of the least "religious" comparative videos I've seen on monohulls and cats. Well done.
bdtrap, Thanks for watching! When I made the video, I was not fully aware of the rabid responses I would get from some of the viewers. Overwhelmingly, the viewers took the information as it was meant; without bias, and went on to use the information to their advantage, regardless of which hull type they had chosen. That said, there were a few that went as far as to refute physics. I had a troll or two... and I found myself feeling sorry for anyone who ventured out on a boat with them.
I agree resoundingly with you; there is no perfect all-round boat. Some boats are better for different activities, and the shopper should have a firm grip on their own style and sailing plans before ever approaching the boat market. That, and they have to recognize market hype when they see it.
@@sailingpuffin9441(& @bdtrap w/comments) Wonderful reading - never be amazed about people going up against physics and the most elementary "laws". I came here to remind the people that the Vikings used monohulls and made the crossing centuries before the Polynesians crossed, and another Viking made it back on some logs. I have come to that we change units easier in the metric system makes us confront physics differently: the wind is a force, with a velocity that can drive us around or forward through the sea.
@MTG Zombie Thanks for the vote of confidence! I equate it to religion; people get to where they will believe any outlandish thing, rationalizing away anything that does not agree with their chosen belief. I did 25 years as an Army officer, and commanded a battalion of 1300 Soldiers. Did 3 tours in the 'sandbox'. The amount of idiocy I witnessed was extreme, and I became somewhat immune to the morons. So, I am not too offended by folks that will not consider physical facts and statistics. I just smile, thankful that those folks are not people I have to deal with on a daily basis.
Great presentation! I just watched "displacement vs planing", "hull speed" and now this. This is an awesome display of facts with no bias, which is super easy to follow and digest. Thanks!
I have to say this is one of the most thorough and least bias comparisons I have seen.
Awesome job!
You really possess a strong talent for breaking down and communicating good information in a fair way!
That was the clearest and least biased explanation that I have ever seen. Well Done and thank you.
Daniel, Thanks for watching!
Thank you for a truly excellent, unbiased, informative, and easy to understand explanation. This is by far the best comparison I have seen.
This is by far one of the most interesting and most informative explanation I’ve seen on this subject matter. Thank you for this excellent video 👍👍⛵️
Great video with 1st class content; builds his case through careful analysis and does declare his personal bias. Can't say fairer than that!
Great vid. Probably the best and most objective description of the pros and cons of each design. Keep up the great work!
This was supremely informative. I learned things I didn't even know I needed to know. Thank you very much!
WOW! by far the best non biased comparison I have seen so far. Thank you for being fair to the CATs! I learned a lot!
The most practical and usefull Cat vs. Mono discussion I have seen thus far. Well done Mate!
Thanks for watching! Fair winds!
Thank you for the fine explanation, I will now go with MonoHull myself.
I've watched a few videos answering this question and this is the most comprehensive
Absolutely the best explanation and comparison between the two that i have seen. Thank you so much for putting this video together!!!
Chuck, Thanks for watching! At the end of the day, the choice is going to be based on your priorities. The best anyone can do to help you decide is to best describe the advantages/disadvantages in a non-emotional way.
Top notch, sir. Clear cut, VERY informative, no bullshit. Thank you!
I was not expecting outtakes! Great video! Very informative.
Very comprehensive comparison ... Thanks to brought it up man ... Two thumbs up 👍👍
Very thorough overview. You even mentioned some things I didn't know (and I've been sailing since I was a kid). Great job! It's refreshing to see an overview so good that someone considering a sailboat has some serious things to consider that might help them make an informed decision. Your production is a valuable asset for teh goal sailing community. Thanks from all of us!
Tetraskele, Thanks for watching! There are some great products out there in both hull types. The hardest thing to do is to determine what your 'normal' sailing is going to look like; that will drive your choices most of all.
Great video. Super informative. We struggled between the two and just recently bought a monohull to start our own adventure. For us in boiled down to budget. Subscribed.
Great video. One of the most thoughtful comparisons that I've seen.
Jim, thanks for the input!. I have been getting a lot of positive feedback. At the end of the day, as long as you have thought out your purchase, you win (regardless of your choice).
Few times I've learned so many in such short time. Thank you!
Daniel, thanks for watching!
What a GREAT explanation. Very clear, very well structured. Hard to come by people who just break things down so clearly. Thanks!
Julian, Thanks for watching!
To me this lifestyle is currently just a dream, but this comparison video has got to be the best one on the subject I've seen so far. You good sir, earned another subscriber.
M Tieleman, Thanks for watching! Whichever you choose when you decide to grab your dream, you will enjoy it! At the end of the day, it is all about YOUR priorities, not mine or those of the boat broker. I dreamed for years about this and did a mountain of research; was a good 'happy place' to park my brain while attempting to sleep during tours in Iraq. Had to wait for retirement to realize the dream. Now I am finding it is fun to share. Fair winds!
fantastic explanation, thank you very much! Wish you allways a safe journey!
Loved the straight and well thought out reasoning. Looking back through your videos I don't see a tour, or an image of your boat. I think I wouldn't be the only one who would love to see both. Cheers.
Warspire, Thanks for watching! There is a pretty cool interactive 3D tour through PUFFIN online. I am having difficulty with the link cut and pasted (it doesnt quite get you there) , but if you google up Ashley Yachts, then go to their 3D section..... (yes, as much as it pains me to write it, PUFFIN is up for sale!)
Thank you for a professional presentation.
Hey man. Thank you a lot for making this video. It gave me tons of useful information. safe sailing.
Thank you Brad, this is such a good overview.
This is great! Thank you, skipper, much appreciated!
Congratulations one of the best explanations,and your way of being is sensational
Thank you so much for all your videos! They are super clear and super-educative!
That was excellent. As someone looking into boating for the future, you’ve given me much to consider. Thank you for that.
love that it is an unbiased opinion. looking to buy a cat in the future. thank you for the video
Clear, complete and to the point, this is a great presentation, thank you !
Thanks for watching!
Nice video. I took sailing lessons as a kid now I'm wanting to sail so I'm trying to figure out what kinda boat I want and you definitely helped. We're going with a catamaran. Now I need to find the right one, thanks Brother!
Can tell a lot of work went into this presentation. It shows in the detail and the precise wording. Thank you very much great work
Brother Bryan, Thanks for watching!
Great information! Sailing isn't currently attainable for us, but one day we would love to do it! I just enjoy learning about it and this is the most straightforward, well thought out presentation. Thumbs up!
I appreciate the info, and I absolutely dig the shirt
Nice and fair, well presented and I learned a lot. Thanks for uploading this!
Demian, Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this video! Wonderful points to ponder and really good starters for additional discussion!
Eric,
Thanks for watching!
Well put ! Thanks for sharing and teaching. Have often listen to others trying to present the same debate. None were as clear and straightforward as yours
esr243, Thanks for watching!
You deliver information really well, thanks.
Great video!!! As I've been doing my research for future plans there's some great pros and cons I haven't thought of....thank you sir!
William, thanks for watching!
I've watched many video's of this nature, by far the best one...
Thank you for the info, I'm just starting to think about getting a boat in the future and this has actually cleared up a few things.
David, that is good news! Enjoy yourself!
Great explanation! Thanks for your time!
Yet another terrific video by Sailing Puffin. I would love to see a video covering the fluid dynamics of catamarans and monohulls!
Such a well-balanced discussion. Thank you for your insight.
Hope it helps you when you choose!
Only two outtakes??? 😋
Thanks for this video. All of the physics and design particulars you included were exactly what I've been looking for.
Now I just need to find a video about the different techniques used whilst actually sailing.
The Best comparison of the two in RUclips.
Great job! I love how impartial your comparisons are even though you clearly chose to go with one over the other. Thank you.
Oceandrew, Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I did have my priorities clear when I went to buy. Looking back, not sure I am so convinced my priorities were that critical, but still am happy with my choice. Fair Winds!
the need for a srtonger hull priority?
zohaf, Yes, the strong hull was a big priority for me. ]90 miles from shore, darker than 10 feet up a bulls behind, and WHAM!. Big difference between 'Wonder what I just hit?' and 'Wonder if I am sinking?'] I put an ice breaker bow into Puffin, with a strike plate under the bow thruster. She is 5mm rolled steel throughout, with 9.5 mm bow plates ( 9.5mm braces, too) and the strike plate is twice as thick. Not sure why, but if there is a half sunken cargo container out there, or tree trunk, or uncharted reef, it will be sure to find me. So far, I have not challenged the steel hull in any way, but I am ready when it does happen!
Good point. Just can't build a CAT from steel... or has it been done?
The floating cargo containers and tree-trunks are a danger.
I did some research on power cats back about a decade ago, and found several metal (aluminum) cats at 65 foot. I interacted with the designer and builder and suggested Nabla shaped bow bulbs. He 'Poo-Poohed' my suggestion but came out with bulbous bow sections later that year. Apparently they did well in tank tests.
I also worked a little bit with the military High Speed Vessel, which is a very large cat hull (steel and aluminum). Military was not happy with it. It was intended to provide quick response force access to littoral environments... a decided speed advantage over the LSV and LCUs currently in use. 30 knots vs 12 to 14, and only one foot deeper draft. Problem was that as soon as you put on enough armored vehicles to make a difference, it drafted 11 feet and cruised at 10 to 11 knots - worse than the LSVs and LCUs it was intended to supersede. [You are usually better off putting a QRF in the area with helo or airborne deployment, then use an established port facility to bring in the heavy forces. You can use Joint Logistics Over The Shore (JLOTS) if there is no established port facility available]. The HSV still has uses, but was not the super cure we all were hoping for.
Thanks for that great video, even when I do not agree with most of your arguments (the engine rooms of the mono hulls I'm looking for, are really small). How ever it is good to listen to your decision reasons!
thanks for the explain, simply and concrete, impartial, the best video that i ever seen for make a comparison, thank you!
Very interesting, and surprisingly 'even-handed'. Well done Sir.
Excellent! Great video! I'm really grateful!
This is the best overview of both types of hulls I've seen. Though I've been on neither Im thinking of buying a cat, of course the salon is nice......but the idea of flat sailing without much heeling is really attractive. Many of the seasoned monohull sailors I've watched say it takes a few days to get used to the constant rocking when first taking to the seas. Thanks for you video....; )
Excellent presentation. I could not detect any bias in the comparison - a rare attribute in today's world. Nice dingy!
Best demonstration on monohull vs catamaran. Thanks.
Best video in this subject. Thanks!
Hello Brad, this video was very clear and interesting for me. Thank you very much. Subscribed and hope to see more videos on your channel in the future.
SV Satoshi,
Glad I was able to help!
Well done! I like your approach to explaining it.
Love the outtakes! And really enjoyed the breakdown of differences between a Cat and Monohull. I love being on a Cat when I'm in a bay anchored but I have to say that nothing beats a monohull when you're in big waves, windy conditions or a massive storm :) Keep these great videos coming :)
Could not have done this without the support and encouragement of some really cool neighbors!
hot dang!
SailingBritican: I'm no expert but from what I've learned I'd guess that, all other things being equal, a properly loaded cat should be much better at avoiding bad weather than a mono.
Hey Walter...I'd be interested to hear your experiences of what it feels like to be in a storm in a Cat versus a storm in a Monohull. I've only been in three Force 10 storms and they were all in our monohull. They were scary but I felt very safe in our boat.
All my Cat friend owners who have been in bad storms say that the swell/wave slap along the middle bridge area (not sure what it's called) makes a horrible noise and is extremely frightening. We have friends (now on a mono) that sold their Cat because it broke in half during a storm.
I think that Cats and Monohulls both have pros and cons. And when it comes to storms I'm sure it all depends on what kind of storm and how difficult the conditions are to sail in.
Ideally, none of us would ever go out in any boat in a massive storm! :)
We had a bad Biscay in our Wharram Tiki - BBC told us it was Storm 10 off Finisterre at the time . Our anemometer agreed. Massive seas.
So we decided to bear away and run for Brest.
In the ferocious seas we covered 135 NM in 10 hours, hit a peak speed on the conventional log of 22.2 Kts when coming down a big one, confirmed by GPS max recorded speed.
And then . . .
We popped out of the storm into calm sunlight and had to motor the final distance into Brest as the wind failed.
We had out-run the storm.
It was good to tie up to the quay and make for the bar.
When the storm eventually caught us up and hit Brest, there was severe house damage, and part of the cliff collapsed according to local news.
Would I willingly attempt it in another cat?
A Wharram, yes.
They are optimised for heavy weather rather than cocktail cabinets. Reserve buoyancy is massive, the deep vee hulls come off a big wave and land astoundingly softly without any sign of rooting.
The weather was terrifying, but the boat instilled massive confidence.
The good folk in the bar asked where we'd been - so I showed them the GPS data.
We didn't need to buy our own beer that evening.
Merci, mes amis!
Great video!! Thank you so much for breaking this down.
Nathaniel, Thanks for the feedback! All boats are a compromise, and if your priorities are met with your choice, then you win. Fair winds!
Hi Brad - really great video. If you were not a teacher, you should've been one! Great comparisons between monohull and catamaran. We chose catamaran and are happy with our decision overall, but there are times when we are not quite as happy - marina fees and lift out facilities, as you stated. Looking forward to the next video!
Julia, I do like to teach, but am a little self conscious doing so, especially in front of a camera. Very glad you like your choice; at the end of the day, your choices are unique to you and I am not the person to evaluate them..... you are! Fair Winds!
we are also choosing a catamaran, hopefully we will get it within a month time. she is narrow so she doesn't pay double of a monohull as some people say..
Julia, that is awesome! Be proud of your boat, and maximize the advantages that the cat can give you! Fair winds!
Sailing Soon: A narrow catamaran? Uhhhhhh.....................did you do any research on the ideal ratio of length to width on a cat?
You mean did we research extensively before we spent thousands of pounds on the most expensive thing we've ever owned - NOOoooo we would never do that Walter! Not even look at video comparing different types of boats.
I would love a boat like Puffin . Great video mate. I chose the mono
Best comparison I watched
Thank you
This was the best comparison talk I have seen. You just educated us on both while staying neutral to the discussion. Thanks for sharing a part of your life.
Rottingboards, Thanks for watching! I was surprised (by the responses) how polarized the boating community is on this particular issue. All boats are a compromise, and there is no perfect boat for all circumstances. Bottom line is to enjoy what you have.
I was just your 1,000th sub because of this vid. thank you and congrats
Stuwy2, Awesome! I have not been keeping count, but thank you for watching, and good luck with your adventures!
Sailing Puffin it’s a shame you have sold her. Good luck with your future endeavours
Subscribed and liked... excellent comparison for a layman, thanks skipper.
Skipper Hawk, Thanks for watching!
Nicely laid out
I love this guy. Makes so much sense.
Awesome video Brad.
Craig, Thanks for watching!
Cool video, I enjoyed watching it and learned a lot.
Steve,
its all about what works for you. Your plans may fit better in a cat than a mono, but you can only figure that out if you cut through the hype. Thanks for watching!
This video was awesome man... thanks
It's really very informative and helpful. Thank you very much. Cheers!
Great video, looking forward to more.
Eight Crows Media, Thanks for watching!
Great job. You're a very good teacher...I wish you were my calculus teacher.
Pharaoh, Ha! I flunked calculus my first time through!
Didn't we all!
Awesome video, thanks for sharing. From Steve stott in sutherlin Oregon u.s.a.
Brilliantly explained...thank you.
Very pedagogically explained, thanks! :)
that was a very thorough and useful presentation !
Arno Maas, Thanks for watching! My wife's maiden name is Maahs (I believe the spelling 'Maas' in the background way back in Germany).
Great info and comparison! Thank you :)
Hey mate, I really appreciate this video.
I'm pretty much sold on Catamarans, but you raised a few points I hadn't thought of which are worth taking into account as I choose WHICH catamaran, and I felt that this is one of the most balanced 'cat vs monohull' videos I've seen, where you clearly presented the reasons for your choice, but also the reasons why someone (like me) would make a different choice.
Great video, I'm going to check out the rest of your stuff. :)
TopherField, thanks for watching. As long as you are enjoying yourself out on the water, then you made the right choice. Fair winds!
Great video! Well done... you explain in objective detail, the benefits and drawbacks without showing bias. You did make a choice, but you didn't push that choice. There are, of course, many other considerations and differences between the two that would take much longer to videotape, but you do give the ultimate advice to each individual - go out and see which one best suits you. You chose a monohull, but didn't say because it's definitely better, but were comparing the same size boats and what your particular needs were. Valuable information. Thanks!
Rabukan 58, Thanks for watching! I set about to do this vid partly because there was no middle of the road, objective look at the topic. There was only rabid (or thinly disguised rabid) diatribes, or eye candy in (and partially out of) small bikinis. So I skipped the sales pitch. Yes, I am slightly biased (we all are to some degree), and ended up choosing a monohull. That should not stop the viewer from having different cruising plans and a different outlook on what they want out of a boat. If they choose the cat option, I would applaud their choice - as long as the choice was made for valid reasons and not just a result of sales hype.
I have had a few trolls... invariably they are rabid cat owners who were insulted that I chose a monohull. Sigh.
Fair winds, regardless of your choice!
Great analysis
Great video! Very enjoyable.
thank you so much for making up this video and keeping it very neutral!!!! Thumbs up man!!!!
What a class. Thank you, sir!
My wife and I are just getting into sailing and plan to purchase our first blue water boat in the next year. I spend my days looking for the right boat and I enjoyed your explanation very much. For us it boils down to cost for comfort. We plan to live aboard the boat full time while we travel. I have found that I can buy a much larger monohull length wise for the money but not so much living space. So the quest continues.
MrCFerren, I read somewhere that the smallest practical livaboard for two was a 36 foot vessel. Not sure that was/is true, but it might help refine your search. Think they were referring to monohulls. Your choice of sailing location (depth, waves, etc) can help guide your choice. You also need to research the costs thoroughly before buying; nothing can suck out your retirement savings faster than a boat :). Either way you go, have fun with it. It is a fun lifestyle living at a marina or buddy boating to distant locations.
Thank you for the video very good explanation. Thats why i like monohauls.
Great video skipper! Thank you.
Orlando, Thanks for watching!
Nice Jongert you got there. I spent a lot of time on a 21s. So beautiful.
Great Video!
There’s also a big difference between visiting boats in boat shows, versus actually sailing them in different kinds of weather. The monohaul was just a better sailing boat all together than the catamaran for me.
I would still choose the catamaran. The wide enlarged living space and less healing over when sailing are big positives.
Scott, thanks for watching! No harm, no foul! You SHOULD choose what you want, regardless of other's opinions. One size does not fit all and these are purpose designed craft, so my advice (for what it is worth) is to pick the craft that best fits your intended purpose. Fair winds!