KDE Plasma 6.1, Cinnamon Desktop, RISC-V Framework Laptop & more Linux news
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:40 Linux is Everywhere Shirt
00:50 KDE Plasma 6.1 Released
05:10 Cinnamon 6.2 Desktop Released
08:34 Ubuntu Adds Support to Install DEBs in App Center
13:37 Sponsored by Kolide
15:18 Ubuntu Summit 2024
18:02 RISC-V Motherboard for Framework Laptop 13
21:12 postmarketOS 24.06 Released
23:13 Kdenlive 24.05 Released
26:14 Outro
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- KDE Plasma 6.1 Released
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- Cinnamon 6.2 Desktop Released
- github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon...
- frontpagelinux.com/news/cinna...
- 9to5linux.com/cinnamon-6-2-de...
- www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/06/c...
- Ubuntu Adds Support to Install DEBs in App Center
- discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu...
- frontpagelinux.com/news/ubunt...
- www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/06/d...
- Ubuntu Summit 2024
- ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-summi...
- RISC-V Motherboard for Framework Laptop 13
- frame.work/blog/introducing-a...
- deepcomputing.io/a-risc-v-wor...
- frontpagelinux.com/news/frame...
- deepcomputing.io/worlds-first...
- postmarketOS 24.06 Released
- postmarketos.org/blog/2024/06...
- Kdenlive 24.05 Released
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Risc-V is such a promising project!
KDE is my favorite desktop because I can set my theme to match my wallpaper, choose my theme colors in settings that include matching file folders and selecting colors, and it has the most features, yet is still super fast. No other desktop compares, IMO. I like Cinnamon, but I think it needs more flexibility like I find in KDE.
Plasma 6.1 is awesome if you have a multi-screen setup that needs scaling.
Cinnamon Connect. Done and I'm your marketing guru. Hire me today.
The Hague is the English name. The very official name is 's-Gravenhage or translated; the Count's Hedge (Private Enclosure) and it was the hedge of the Count of Holland. The Dutch name mostly used is: Den Haag, closer to its 1242 name of "Die Haghe"
Thanks for the details. My comments were about it having "The" in the name because of it being a sort of nickname indicator for other places. Den & Die both translate to "The" so it seems to me that in Dutch its still doing the same thing.
Is it just me? Or does your camera feel like its running at 5 fps? Nice shirt btw. :)
No it's not just you and it's odd.
If he's going for a cinematic look and feel it looks far lower than 24 fps.
When I watch it back it looks fine overall for a talking head video. But with that said the output was 30fps and the source camera was 60fps so maybe that’s an issue
He's using that into the spiderverse effect😁
It does look kinda laggy for some reason 🤔
Or maybe it's just a little smeary if you look at his hand you can really see it. Maybe it's because of what he said 😊
"RISC architecture is going to change everything" -Hackers, 1995.
They was right, maybe not in the way they thought back then, but they was right.
lol that's true, they were right
Great movie ... GOD .. 😂
I feel like if something isn't actually by GNOME, it shouldn't have GNOME in the name.
Absolutely, i agree. Only GNOME apps should include that in the name
You "feel like"?
Thanks for the video man! 😎
I am so hyped to finally see risc-v start to get some "consumer" exposure. I've been following the progress since 2017ish.
It's sad to see that its going to be a less powerfull raspberry pi 4, but thats to be expected, hope there will be a actual consumer product soon thereafter!
That's only the case for the Framework board, the full laptop that DeepComputing also announced recently is supposed to be an 8-core iirc.
I think the Framework board is low power, because it's a new concept and they're testing the waters.
Looking for next release of Mint 22.
When was the last release of Mint 22?
@@mavfan1 Bada boom tsss
Good episode.
👍Thanks Michael.
8:55 One of the weird things about snaps is that Ubuntu preinstalls special versions of them. The preinstalled versions aren't running the latest stable version, but a version built specifically for your version of Ubuntu. Both 22.04 and 24.04 have the snap stored preinstalled, but the 22.04 is based on Gnome Software and 24.04 is the new flutter version.
Annoyingly, the new snap store doesn't have a stable release yet despite being used on 23.10 and 24.04.
The reason I think the difference still stands is because a Snap is only so flexible. In order to backport the new Flutter version to 22.04 would be enough work to not make it worth doing I suspect.
Lately Ubuntu seems like an incomplete OS. Cinnamon on Mint is better and their LMDE version gets the latest updates too. Always a good video.
Hey thanks for commenting and sharing your thoughts. What makes Ubuntu an incomplete OS in your opinion? What is missing?
Though, I will say that LMDE does not get the latest updates because Debian "Stable", which is what LMDE is based on, does not get the latest updates so LMDE has no way to do that. The next version of Mint will start getting kernel updates on the main stack but as of now, it doesnt so even Mint on Ubuntu is not getting the latest updates. That's okay overall because Mint is not trying to have the latest and thats fine if that is what they want
@@michael_tunnell - LMDE's base is stable - correct. No new software but the Cinnamon desktop is always up to date much like Neon / Tuxedo OS. Regarding Ubuntu - when I used Zorin - everything works. The software store is flawless, and I can install Debian packages from the software store with no issues. Meanwhile, Ubuntu, the OG of mainstream Linux, falls behind needing GDebi or Synaptic. I like Ubuntu but can't use it because there is always some sort of hiccup. Not so on Zorin or LMDE.
I agree about LMDE but quick note about KDE Neon. Neon is a testing ground for Plasma, it is not meant to be used as a daily driver for most people. Neon's messaging about this used to be pretty confusing but they fairly recently fixed this to be more clear. " Featuring the latest officially released KDE software on a stable base. Ideal for adventurous KDE enthusiasts."
As for Ubuntu, you mentioned everything works in Zorin but I have seen reports that the lack of installing local debs has happened in Zorin as well. I am not sure how accurate that is because I havent tried it myself.
Ubuntu allows you to install deb packages other than local files downloaded from the net but they also are adding that back now too so its not an issue anymore.
Are there any other things that makes it incomplete?
@@michael_tunnell - I used Neon as an example and also referenced Tuxedo OS doing the same thing regarding to a stable base but the DE getting updates. LMDE is not a testing distribution but it is similar in concept especially with Tuxedo OS. Again, LMDE's base is stable and as the Mint team releases updates to the desktop, they flow to LMDE. Zorin works compared to my experience of using Ubuntu. Ubuntu either has installation difficulties or needs GDebi or Synaptic for Debian packages. The Ubuntu LTS should be complete upon release - it is far from that. I used to be an Ubuntu fan - no more - I just stick to Mint or Zorin.
I think people were saying that 10+ years ago.
I must confess that when I ran into the issue of a .deb not installing in Ubuntu 24.04, I had no idea why. Thanks for the tip. God bless 🙏🏾
Happy it’s finally coming back but yea lame it has been missing for a long as it has
Debian is looking for the artwork for Trixie. Could be great if you talk about that to reach more people.
Thanks for the suggestion. If there is a slow week I will consider it but there is only so much space on the show and I dont know if that can survive the cutting room will all the other topics
I had the exact same issue last week when installing steam snap on my Ubuntu 24.04 laptop. Games just wouldn't start and I had similar issues with the flatpak as well. The only version of steam that seams to be functional on newer ubuntu versions is the deb package from the steam website.
When will custom browser docks come to obs wayland?
sxmo is a rly good one if you want to stick to simple cli things on a small display.. its like having dwm on your phone .. i like the default onscreenKB they give us as default .. id be happier if mobian or armbian made it available from apt
I was so excited for he KDE Remote desktop built in feature. However after countless trials not working from Windows/Mac to Linux pc. The Remote desktop feature is activated but after inputting the credentials the connection drops without any error nor image.
Will the KDE plasma 6 install on my hp stream 14? Or on my external hard drive ?
If you have an Intel version then yes it should be able to run on that laptop. I would recommend waiting for a distro to ship it though. If you are asking because of hardware requirements, Plasma can run on 2GB of RAM fairly well so 4GB like the Stream 14 has should be fine.
@@michael_tunnell What distro includes KDE 6.x?
@@tastymonkey Fedora 40, KaOS, EndeavourOS, off the top of my head
I am running Plasma 6.1 on Fedora. I would suggest people to wait a little bit, because a very strange bug is there. It basically reset all my Plasma settings including wallpaper, I mean every setting I have ever done before is gone. Now I am setting my Plasma again. It's not a huge bug, but I found it a little bit irritating.
thanks for sharing the info, I think that is in fact huge bug unless the user is new to Plasma then its fine but wow that would be annoying. I am still on 6.0 with F40 so I now know which is very helpful. I also have a morbid curiosity to see it happen myself lol which is a weird feeling to be both cautious and curious at the same time. I wonder which one wins out
Thanks for mentioning the security issues with .deb files.
Users should find a different way and making it harder is a good step. You still have the terminal, where apt should also display a warning.
A popup whe clicking the file should warn.
Steam should have a repo and not a random .deb file
Thanks for commenting and sold points. Also I think Valve embeds a repo in the DEB so when you install it you also get a repo for updates. Google does that for Chrome, I think Valve does it too
Please mention about Cinnamon 6.2 Waylnad support
Cinnamon won’t have solid Wayland support for at least another year at best and more likely to be in 2026 because they didn’t start working on it until last year.
Well According to my system settings I am on Plasma 6.1.0, but I don't see the remote desktop feature anywhere, and typing rdp I get "No items matching your search" Same with "Remote Desktop" Does there have to be a network setup first for it to appear? I actually updated everything before I watched the show (Arch Endeavour).
Shake cursor and edge barrier are there and work.🥳
You gotta install the krdp package and it shows up.
@@SethReee COOOOOOOOOOOL!!🥳 Sorry, but since you had to tell me: What else new and groovy am I missing for having a more vanilla Plasma install,🤔 (more in the Plasma 6 not 5 sense, since I have many throwbacks, and plenty of them no longer work in Plasma 6, like dolphin extensions😢?
Plasma is rad, and there's always stuff that will go unexplored I guess, it's so freaking flexible.🤯🥳 Swiss army knives ain't got shit on that!!
@@SethReee Also, It doesn't exist using yay, and not even from KDE through Discover, at least not by that name, nor even spelling out "Remote Desktop", so I am at a loss!
Maybe my computer has a bad case of THE BIT MUNCHERS!!!!! 😁
Hold on! There is the "Search the web" option and viola, now I can find out what's up with that.
@@Bob-of-Zoid If it's the package name you are looking for to install "Remote Desktop", try krdc... I'm on opensuse leap 15.5: zypper install krdc)
Why is the video in 10 fps?
When I watch it back it looks fine overall for a talking head video. But with that said the output was 30fps and the source camera was 60fps so maybe that’s an issue
Does anyone have any idea why any Linux distro I use cap my internet speed to 3MB/s when connected to a phone's wifi hotspot?
When connected to a usb cable with tethering turned on my phone or with a real wifi router, this doesn't happen. My phone's internet speed is more than 36MB/s.
it is more likely than your ISP is throttling the speed when you connect to the hotspot. This is common practice for a lot of ISPs unfortunately. I would look into that first because there shouldnt be anything in any Linux distro that causes this but especially not many distros
The internet speed is fine on my phone and if I connect to another phone or when I used to use windows.
I have tried multiple phones. With three different internet service providers. Same issue.
This issue gets fixed if I connect the phone with a usb cable and turn on usb tethering on the phone. But this is very inconvenient.
Still using 5.7 no update yet
are you referring to Plasma 5.27? If so, are you using Kubuntu?
Good looking tee shirt. When will the "FHD: 1920x1080 is good enough" tees go on sale? At the same time as the "syisint and X11 'til I die" shirts, maybe? (Just kidding, no one take offense, please!)
thanks and lol I might actually make the 1080p one 😂
me entirely too hopeful really wants the next framework laptop to be riscv but oops its on a fpga
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Linux news! poor a stiff drink lets go
I would love a usable RISC-V system. Unfortunately, that SoC is way too slow. I have a Framework, and they're great, but a bit expensive. There's no way anyone is going to buy that in a laptop so expensive. Actually, I would like a RISC-V SBC that performed at least as fast as a Raspberry Pi 5. It would be great for a local cluster, even if it was a little more expensive than the equivalent Pi 5.
If anything, I'd expect specifically existing Framework 13 owners to be interested in it, to swap out the board and be able to tinker with RISC-V in a mobile form factor that they're used to.
If you want to buy a complete device, consider DeepComputing's full laptop instead - it's apparently much more powerful.
Linux mint 22 will be based on ubuntu 24.04 and not 20.04 as you mention in the video.
Wait what? I said 20.04? 🤦♂️
@@michael_tunnell well I am not a native english speaker but that is what I hear and that is what youtube "hears" also in the captions... 8:06
After review, my exact quote was “20uh4 04” not sure if that’s better or worse lol
100% agree the app center should never have removed the ability to manually install debs. They should have stuck with an older version until the issue was resolved. I would hate for a new user to try an install steam just to get horribly unhelpful message and they conclude linux sucks. There needs to be more effort on tightening the user experience and ironing out "minor" bugs, because a new user will always compare their experience against windows or mac os. New features are nice, but random glitches or cryptic error messages WILL turn people away, it's just how people are
The official repos are also often very outdated.
Yea, that’s true
Wells Fargo employees fired for shaking the mouse cursors too much. 😅
Did I ever tell you I am a Plazmazoider? 🤔
🤪😁🤗😅🤣🤓
Nice. But, I've never heard cursor pronounced like that 😂
I’m intrigued, how do you pronounce it?
Switched all my Linux workstations and dual boot laptops to Mint Debian Edition months ago. Dont like the way Ubuntu is going. I realize there is a need to standardize Linux to a point where first party developers can use an OS to base App releases and support on. I dont think it should be the Ubuntu Fork. The support should be based on Debian native in my opinion. Ubuntu was my first desktop Linux but they seem to be making as big a mess as Gnome on their break to be "individual". Im not saying people shouldnt use forks. Im saying if people want first party support of software they want developed for Linux they should go Debian.
Hey, thanks for commenting and sharing your thoughts. In my opinion, Debian is both wonderful and a problem. Debian takes 2 to 3 years with no consistency for each new Stable release and between releases Stable sees practically no updates for anything outside of security fixes. This is fine as a foundational distro but for me a distro has to check every important box to be the standard. The slow updates of hardware support means making sure stuff works in Debian as the standard means anything that updates faster will not be guaranteed to work properly because it isnt being tested against new hardware and new software stacks. Debian is not the go to Linux distro for a lot of reasons and because it is not really that popular, making stuff work for it as the base level means a lack of support for other distros like Fedora, openSUSE, Arch, etc even forks like Ubuntu that move much faster. I dont think making DEBs or RPMs as the standard would be a good thing. I think Flatpaks should be used as the standard and that way it doesnt matter which distro it is.
@@michael_tunnell Mint DE uses debian base but has flathub, fix updates and App updates. So its kinda the best of both worlds. I suppose I still havent forgotten the Amazon thing with Canonical.
Having Flathub is great but the rest is not going to be optimal imo. I assume LMDE has app updates solely for Mint apps. I assume it only has security fixes from Debian unless related to something Mint made. LMDE is slow to updates at the same pace that Mint Ubuntu is and somewhat slower. This isnt necessarily a bad thing but it is a difference tthat is there. I think a good sign of why Debian cant be the standard is because many people see it as too slow and want more, in your case you chose LMDE partially because of that right?
So the Amazon thing was blown out of proportion in my opinion. There were so many people who started attacking thing making baseless claims. The first Amazon thing with the Unity lense was a huge mistake, they absolutely screwed up there but not in the way people claimed. Some people claimed that this was "Spyware", the person who started that rhetoric lacks any credibility with me but it gets much worse when I found out that Canonical had buffer servers in the mix so when you sent stuff out it went to Canonical not Amazon and the buffer servers stored nothing it was just to send queries for the search results. This means there was no data collection, there was no spyware whatsoever and etc.
It was still a very dumb idea overall because its like they didnt even test the function before shipping it. The experience outright sucked and that is without a doubt the case but the reason it sucked was not what was claimed by most. I think it is fair to say that it was a dumb idea and should have never happened but the other stuff is just nonsense.
@@michael_tunnell Wow im surprised you remember all that. You dont look old enough :) . Well the fact that were buffer servers bothered me. Its one thing saying we are collecting information and they didnt pass it on. Where did all the information go? Is it still there for hackers to steal. I guess im just too old and wary of the new age. Im 51. I still remember the days before the internet.
@@thedeester100 That is nice to say :D I wish I wasnt old enough to remember lol I started using Linux when I was a teenager. As for the buffer servers, the data went no where it was not stored at all it was sent to the buffer servers and then to Amazon and then back to the buffer servers and then back to the User. The data worked in real time with zero storage. This is why the results changed upon every key stroke because it wasnt waiting for the query to be sent but rather realttime streaming through the buffer server. This is also why the results were hot garbage because if they were saving the data they could have used the data to improve the results but they didnt which meant it looked bad for reputation and provided no value at all. It was a very dumb move. lol
Framework will support Risc-V... but not Coreboot...
XApp is about to be sued by Elon 🤣
LOL I wouldnt put it past him
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Have I been pronouncing "cursor" incorrectly my whole life?
I think its more likely that I have lol
@10:14, let people install what they want from where they want, this is windows dumb users access thing again.
If you are referring to the news about Ubuntu, they are letting people install whatever they want. This was news about them adding the feature to the App Center