Assassin’s Creed Rebel Collection Switch Review - “UP SHE RISES!”
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Here’s our full Assassin’s Creed Rebel Collection Nintendo Switch review. Is it the port you were hoping for? If you’re just wanting to know the Switch specifics - check out our performance review but this is the full shebang!
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I like the vid
:025 it debuted on 2013 not 2017 😂
Pirate joke:
There were two pirate friends discussing the difficulties of life at sea. The first pirate said, "You know what the worst part about being pirate is? The lack of women!"
The second pirate replied, "Yeah, that's bad. But at least you can *take care of yourself* if you know what I mean..."
The first pirate shook his head saying: "No, no. I couldn't do that!"
The second pirate laughed and said "Why not? There are plenty o' private places aboard the ship, if'n you're worried about folks seein' ya".
The first pirate looked at the second seriously and replied, "It's not that. I'm just afraid that if I do, I'll get hooked!"
awesome review full of great details and information, can’t wait to dive in
@@danjairusrubio2763 you're right!!! I meant 2007
it baffles me that a port of an old game get touchscreen control for menus, but the new pokemon doesnt
This
99% of the switch games dont do this yet you just attack pokemon...
@@qislegit.donttrustthemedia6232 yes and mario is the best selling gaming franchise. And yet nobody complained there. Or zelda, which got game of the year, nobody complained
@@qislegit.donttrustthemedia6232 SwSh are also good games...
@@johnwarosa2905 they could be better
Q: What has 12 arms, 12 legs, and 12 eyes? A: 12 pirates
shyguy2046 hahahaha love it!!
Woundt it be 6 pirates
@@mumakex wooden legs and hooks lol
@@mumakex nice count
Those poor pirates!
Now I would really like
FARCRY
Batman Arkham Asylum/City
Red Dead Redemption
Wow I can just imagine Arkham city and asylum on the go (・o・)
@pandaninja22 shit I'll take San Andreas, Vice City, III.
Personally I would like Rockstar Games Collection from the App Store to be ported, maybe with RDR1 and GTA4 added as well?
#RGConSwitch2020
@@jediflip2515 im pretty sure rockstar refuses to work with Nintendo. Not sure why probably dont feel like having to deal with the limitations.
Oaa Acosta they did it with LA Noire, and that game turned out great on switch
I’ve been playing for 1hr and the crispness is outstanding. Normally there’s blur drom the graphics having to be turned down but this game runs and looks like it was made for the switch. I’m honestly so amazed and taken back by how great it all works! Definitely run out and buy this one!
It does look incredible, I was expecting a little blurryness but it’s so crisp, the short grass looks so good, I’m pretty blown away so far
Looks and runs so so much better than AC3, thank god!!
Which one Black flag or Rouge?
Both. All.
Assassin's creed black flag on Nintendo Switch is okay to me. Also Assassin’s Creed Rogue is blurry.
Black Flag is the best pirate themed game in the history of gaming, fight me XD
Tony Stark Siri is better than Jarvis, fight me XD
No aTlaS iS MUcH BeTTeR, aND yoU kNOW It!!!!!!!!
And it's the worst assassin themed game in the history of gaming XDD
malfuresz no that’s OdYsSeY
@@jackkukoff3685 Yes, i don't know what i was thinking. I remember when Black Flag came out i thought it wasn't a real AC and a disgrace to the franchise (even tho i enjoyed it). But comparing it to OdYsEY it's much more of an assassin's creed then that pile of mess.
That soundtrack for black flag is hypnotizing.
agreed, its so fitting
„Will this one crash in the rocks of a terrible port?“ Immediately subscribed
TyZeHD amazingly clever writing!
why, that's pretty dumb if u subscribed only for that reason
The guy can do whatever the fuck he wants @@ziq1450
Assassins Creed - Why is the rum allways gone? Edition
I blame Jack Sparrow.
Now we need the Ezio Collection on the Switch
This
I feel like that would actually be a pretty easy port to switch
I agree
Hell the fuck yeah we do.
@@Brex10 hehe yes
I had no idea you could board the ships like that! It simply never occurred to me. Thanks!
Heck yeah. The ultimate ship sinking hack! Mark
You can steal boss ships by swinging into the back of them and clipping through the invisible wall
Appropriate for the nature of the game:
"Why is pirating so addictive?
"
"I dunno, why?"
"Once ye lose yer first hand, ye get hooked!"
Great review, super excited to dig into this on Switch.
Haha😂😂🤣
Eric Leslie This is a good one, lol
Or maybe because they simply ARRRR, deal with it.
xDDD
That dive into knee-deep water made me laugh more than would make me appear to be sane. 😂
I'm sold on this one. Thank god for holiday bonuses!
Hahaha. Mark
Our holiday bonuses are crap
Nurses don't get bonuses, just shat on 🤔 but I'll still buy it 😁
@@gayle5185 I feel that mate! Mark
I'll happily buy this again, IV is my favourite of the ac games, rogue was a nice addition to the story (felt more like an expansion but still a great time). I agree the animus sections are pretty guff 😂
Yes, rogue felt like exapansion, I will give it a try on switch.
I ordered my copy this morning from Amazon at the rather nice cost of £32, I have the games on PC but these will make long flights more bearable.
@@craigs71 the portability is a huge draw for me too, looking forward to playing them again.
I still sing Leave Her Jonny all the time. The shanties and tavern music are so immersive. Different taverns play different songs depending what nation occupies them. BF is my second favorite AC game after Odessey. Rouge is a great bonus. Though perhaps after another playthrough on the Switch BF might regain its title.
For sure! Mark
I don't usually buy a game at launch. But when I do, it's after I've watched a SwitchUp review. So glad that it's a good port. Now I can sink some ships while on the toilet.
Exactly that haha! Mark
The Shanties are awesome in this game. There are songs that date back to within the renaissance and are more period than many songs played at a Renaissance faire. I’m glad if you find and catch the collectible music sheets, that it presents you with the lyrics so you can see and hear how it is sung. For a game of parallel fantasy, it certainly has some actual educational value in some things where even a Google search is not as keen to bringing up the information. Particularly the shanties. They really did their due research for them.
Speaking of research, I have to love the attention to detail they did with storm systems, weather, and boat physics. Being a person who has sailed the eastern shore, thanks to my Dad having a sailboat, I really appreciate some of the dangers you face not even against other ship Captains.
The weather. I like that often the wind and waves have a tendency to push boats towards land masses, and more importantly, those rocks that surround many land masses. During a storm, that is really prevalent, just like real life. I remember one time actually doing a reaction I actually learned in real life to save my boat from hull damage. Being caught in a storm, making a quick decision noticing the storm and waves were going to throw my ship right up against those rocks if I don’t do something soon. Some people, not in the know, will try all kinds of maneuvers, but that is to no avail if you are too close.
Immediately dropping the sales, however, did the trick and I was able to control the situation so quickly afterwards and kept my boat from having an accident. What I loved about this is that this is something I learned from real life and not a videogame. I was able to use that solution for a situation that was not simulated in Sid Meier’s Pirates! Regardless of the other influences.
and i would love a bioshock trilogy port too
Guido Russo Heck Now were talking. Imagine fighting Big Daddies on the go.
Guido Russo Heck I don’t own a switch but I’d buy one to play bioshock on the go definitely
@@kidgoku2878 it would be cool to have the entire trilogy on switch.
I honestly don't know why this hasn't happened yet. I just want 1 and 2 with all the DLC.
Hell yea. Bioshock 2.
From what I can gather in the North American physical release, Assassins Creed 4 is on the cartridge but the DLC and Rogue requires a download. That being said the license is on the disc so there is no download code. As such if you buy a used copy you still get the DLC and AC: Rogue, you just have to download it from the Nintendo eshop.
The DLC for 4 is there from the start, just Rogue needs to be downloaded
“Is that a helm in your pants?”
Pirate: “Arrrrr it’s driving me nuts. 🥜 “
Hahaha
Bill Billerson that’s a BOTDF reference, nice try
this game is 10/10 it looks stunning on the switch lite.. Just amazed at how good the game looks and plays.. Highly recommended
I actually liked the countering mechanics in the older ac games like these, it was special to the series, where you could go on massive massacres, it’s more like other rpg’s in odyssey and probably in the new Vikings one. It’s just different now
Now it sucks
Have to say I just picked this game up last week and blown away at how great it looks! I’m hooked!
Do u play mostly handheld? I was thinking about picking it up
dav1ll3 I do! I have played this in handheld about 90% of the time and love it. Chews through the battery tho so grab yourself a spare cable coz you’ll need it after about 3 hours. Totally worth it.
Just thinking of getting this game for my Switch as it’s currently on offer in the online store. This review really helped. Looks like I’m about to have a lot of fun. Thanks.
Hello everyone. I worked as a game tester for the rebel series and I'm glad you all love it. ❤️
I love switch up reviews because it gives me all the answers I’m looking for. I play on a switch lite so it’s really important to me that I know how a game plays in handheld. Even when it’s a footnote, I appreciate you sharing how it runs and plays on small screen. Thanks
When this came out I was very excited seeing as I really enjoyed Black Flag on PS4 back in the day. This review made me buy it again because you guys are right, it runs exceptionally well on the Switch! I’m totally hooked (wink wink) again! It’s great it comes with Rogue and all the DLC as well because I’ve never played those before. This will keep me busy for a long time.
How much did Blackbeard pay for his hook and his peg?
An Arm and a leg
As well as his head
Damn it! Just purchased this game for the 3rd time ....arrrrrgghhhhhh
Hahahah me too. I never played rogue though.
Me neither.....here we go!
Good call. It's my personal favourite Assassins Creed game and although not as big as odyssey or Origins, it's still a massive game. You're in for a treat.
I’m not even a mega fan, but since AC4‘s release when I was 12 and over the years, I’ve played and 100% it on the PS3, Xbox One and PS4! I don’t even really try to complete it fully, but I have so much fun each time that by the end I only ever had a few stuff to do. Since I’m on term break, it’s dumb, but I thought I’d do it a fourth and final time!
I love this port, just started it today and i’m having a lot of fun. But next we need Ubi to do us a solid and port over Ezio Trilogy & Far Cry 3 please
Awesome review... Black Flag is definitely the best Assassin's Creed game
Best pirate game*
That would be brotherhood black flag doesn't even come close to that =D
malfuresz it’s ok, everyone’s entitled to their opinions
Even if they’re wrong
Assassins’s Creed 2 and Brotherhood are the best games sorry
Brotherhood and Unity. 3 would be 3rd best
Amazing how well this game seems to be in handheld mode. Characters fading away? Well hey, you're in a computer program after all. ;)
I love when Mark says "Let's find out". I get excited
Good stuff haha! Mark
Currently on sale for US eshop only $20. I want to get a physical copy so I at least have Black Flag in the event the eshop goes down some day. The larger my digital library has gotten over the last few years the more I'm leaning into physical releases especially if they aren't that much more or are in some cases cheaper than the eShop. Looks like a great game and a good starting point for the series. I've never played an Assassin's Creed game but I think this will be my first with Black Flag.
Someone needs to port over the the recent Deus Ex games!!! Just to add to the great ported RPGs the switch has going for it at the moment. Same with Fallout 3 and NV, never been more keen for a game then I am for The Outer Worlds, and the Outer Wilds would be an insane game to port over too.
Pirate Joke!!!! I’ve been waiting to tell this for years!!!! “ A pirate was on his ship and his watchman comes to him and says, "1 enemy ship on the horizon."The pirate captain says, "Bring me my red shirt, So the watchman brings his shirt and asks, "Why did you want your red shirt?" The captain says, "Because if i get injured they won't see and keep on fighting." So the watchman comes to him again a couple minutes later and says, “Captain, 20 enemy ships on the horizon." The pirate captain says, "Bring me my brown pants.
lol good one
😂😂😂
Sir. Albion71 thank you sir.
Popa Cosmin I’m glad you liked it. Haha.
Hahaha
Awesome in depth review! I just ordered the game for my switch!
You'll enjoy it! Mark
My biggest issue with the game is not allowing me to upgrade to a different class of ship. I'd love to sail around as a terror in a man o' war
Sailing! pirates! treasure! and adventure!
Everything what you want to experience is in this game. You won't regret it
Why are pirates called pirates?
Because they arrrr!
What's a pirate's favorite letter?
Wrong it's the c
Dad Joke alert
Dad Joke alert
I agree with you Mark Black Flag is the best one... spent 10s of hours playing that on Wii U sinking ships an storming islands great game. Love the legendary ghost ships in the corners only ever managed to sink two of them. Need to sink all of them. Will pick this up to try sink them all
WHAT WILL WE DO WITH THE DRUNKEN SAILOR?
In the words of squidward: “Why couldnt the pirate get into the movie?” “Cause it was rated ARRGGHH!!!!!
🤦🏻♂️
Hahaha!
Very impressive port for this one especially sound and visual, more stunning for portable of course
Gotta love that epic violin music! ♫ Like most people, I used to drink rhum and sing along the crew when I played this game :'D
Always welcome a good Goonies reference. Black Flag is just an awesome game. Happily buying again. Great job
Haha great stuff man. It's nice you got that far in to the video! Mark
Great review and all but... 2:34 pirates had flying swords?! Arrr shiver me timbers!
What has 8 legs, 8 arms, and 8 eyes?
8 pirates. Think about it.
in all seriousness, thanks for the review! Definitely gonna purchase!
Also, sorry for the cringey and unfunny joke, but aren't all pirate jokes like that lol
Am I the only one who wants this game if it has the multiplayer?? That shit was so fun
I am genuinely intrigued with this title. I used to be "that guy" that needed to changed the x/y axis. For some strange reason whenever i played Mass Effect 3 on Wii U i could not play inverted and have been playing "normal" ever since.
Great review, and also a nod of hat to mr Sid Mieir , nice touch.
And this should be one of my favourite games, purely as i am ex royal navy sailor of 15 years. (We didnt have cannons when i was in tho...gutted)
Hahaha have you not played through this one mate? If not, you need to get it! Mark
@@SwitchUpYt i actually had this on Wii U (black flag) (not many people remember this). I loved sid meiers black flag 😂😉
I was lucky enough to get on Memorial weekend sale at gamestop for $20 dollars. Fantastic games
Hi, I saw this game combo on sale at a store. I searched for reviews and the first reviewer was so bad. Did not do well on describing the gameplay. The feel overall was like: I’ve never played this series before and the controls are weird. Uggh. I was turned off and went home. Then I found your review. Damn, I wish I saw yours when I was there. You had a clear and consistent review. You provided detailed reasons for your scores. I appreciate that. You gave opinion on docked versus handheld on various situations. I’m trying to do more handheld than docked so an opinion of how this handles is awesome. I will be going back to pick this combo game. Great review. Keep at it.
That music makes me so nostalgic 😍
A pirate staggered into a pub with a ship’s wheel sticking out of his pants. The bartender asked him, “what’s with the wheel?” The pirate replied, a bit exasperated, “I don’t know, but it’s driving me nuts!”
Arrr! It's drivin' me nuts!
AC wasnt on my radar. I haven't really been a fan of AC but this review has made me very intrested. I'm gonna watch for a sale. Ty Switch up.
wow😍 remember when i play black flag. its somehow a really good assassins creed. the first you can dive. but what i like the most too is it shows that the switch is a really strong hardware, i mean the switch lite is just only a handheld and can play such games. that gives me hope they port games like final fantasy XIII ( lightning returns were nice). they port ffX /X two and ffXII i think there is a chance they port ( even if its just ffXII ) for beginning that were so good. i love my switch like no other console before. i like that u can upgrade it. and i prefer the switch ( not the lite ) b'cause one good thing is if you accidently ruin a joystick. its simple to buy a new one and not an entire switch. in my opinion the switch is one of the best console nintendo bring out. its really a revolution. i had this happyness that i had one like in n64 times. i can't play very much at home ( because of the time) but sometimes had to wait hours somewhere in the city so i often think ok just take the switch in the backpack. and my fear that a joystick could damaged is away b'cause you can just buy a new controller, i had anyway one for taking with me and a second. no really the design is very good and there coming lot more upgrades like a battery for charging etc. switch is upgrade able. i think this time nintendo did a really good work, i like my switch so much.
currently playing sequence 4, have played this before on pc but not able to finished it. now i will. anywhere. hell yeah
little anecdote here: i got AC4 when it was free from ubisoft last year and i played it on an older workstation laptop with a quadro card and it played at 30fps in 720p medium.. this looks pretty similar so im tempted to buy it for $40 just for the rest of the experience
Thanks for the thorough review...the US cart memory breakdown info was much appreciated!!👍🏾👍🏾
Picking this up now because of your review keep up the work
The one thing you do lose gameplay wise is two running speeds. Other ports, you could half pull the trigger to run slower. Or full pull to run at full speed. It's a very small thing that most people won't notice.
Price is a bit much. For me, now it cost $89.99. If you buy both games on any console with the freedom cry dlc, it would cost around $50-$65
Didn't know at first but Matt Ryan voiced Edward. He played John Constantine in the DC comics show and animated movies
Thanks for the review. Great Work! Very Fancy!
I put about 7 hours into AC3. I kinda promised myself I’d go back and finish that before buying this, but I might just have to break that promise.
Hehehe yeah I feel that
This review made my mind up. Thanks for going into so much details. I’d only played as Ezio in Brotherhood on the Mac. I did really enjoy the story telling and difficulty progression of the game. Looking forward to playing this on the switch.
Why are pirates called pirates? Cuz they ARRR!!
the second I learnt of ac3 on switch I dreamt of the day I could take Edward back out in the jackdaw on the go and then as if by magic just in time for my birthday it's released and physically as well! Looks to play so nicely too I can't wait!
I remember falling asleep to this game while sailing the seas
By far my favourite AC, will definitely be buying this again. Great review as always chaps well done ;)
I was worried that it would look ugly on the switch, due the switches graphical power.
Man, I was wrong.
Assassins Creed - The Rebel collection looks fantastic! I'm really excited too, as Edward Kenways adventures are my favorite in the series, next to Assassins Creed 3.
Ardan Starmoon the game still looks really dated. AC3 looked better imo minus the faces and water animations.
@@lay10vids well, of course it's going to look dated. It's an older game. It still looks fantastic in handheld mode.
Edit- I'm going to have to disagree on AC3 looking better. They "updated" the textures when there was no reason to. The game was fine the way it was.
@@qislegit.donttrustthemedia6232 The fps is fine for what it is.
@@qislegit.donttrustthemedia6232 I can agree with that. It's even better on the pro no doubt. I personally haven't noticed any major fps dips. I'm still early on though.
You have yourself a new fan, sir.
I've never played any of the Assassin's Creed games. Maybe I should give it a chance...
You really really should. Mark
Ross Robbins yes give black flag a chance it is awesome
Do it with this one. More of a Pirate simulator with AC elements, but the spirit is there and boy is it fun!
@@jonathanbarr5823 At first I read that as, "More of a pirate simulator with Animal Crossing elements" and I was like SIGN ME UP! lolol
@@jonathanbarr5823 I will give this one a go though for sure :)
Keep it up with the uploads! Hope your channel grows! Really enjoy your switch content
Man I've been meaning to pick blag flag up again. I bought it on ps4 launch and never finished it and ended up selling it. I just happened to be browsing the switch online sales today and saw this. I didn't even know it existed! Downloaded it straight away and loving it. I only play the switch in handheld mode, but sweet Jesus it looks fantastic on the switch screen.
How much did the pirate pay for his piercings?
Arrrr! A buck an ear!!
lolzzz
Hahaha
Kirk doesnt beam people down, homie. That was Scotty.
Hahahahaha goodness... who gives the order?
Another great Switch Game! Into deeper debts I go! Get it? Debts, depth? Like the sea? No? Imma let myself out.
Vhalrouge Larfouxe haha that’s funny i sea the joke
Thanks for the good review. It pushed me over the edge to get the game.
It would be cool if you could do a review of Ashen as well.
If we get a code we will. It's looking a little quiet on that front which is worrying. Mark
LOL the part when he says, "NPC characters can be seen fading into existence. As if Kirk has just beamed them down."
I got it on sale for $15 and I love it so much.
Black Flag ran fine for me, but I saw a lot of glitches in Rogue that soured my experience with it. In rogue, ships ur fighting will randomly sink without giving u any rewards and there were many times where I would kill an enemy and another very far away would suddenly know to investigate
Oh shit...How did I miss this coming out?!! Keep porting the Assassin's Creed games to Switch at this quality and I will happily play through them all again!
Loved AC till the one in Paris. Black Flag and 3 were probably the best due to my love of history. Great video sir.
I haven't played this game since the launch of the PS4 and didn't know how much I missed it until now, I'm definitely picking this up on the Switch.
I want more games like this on Switch.
Cause their exclusives are all like Japanese games.
Uhm, the Switch is a Japanese system...
@@henkman00 by a Japanese company. Lol
@@TonyJenn duh
I don't think dude meant anything against Japan or anything....I hope. I think he just meant that there are a lot of jrps and weird indie stuff, and a lack of 'AAA' third-party titles. He's not wrong. I'm glad that the Switch is a powerhouse for people who like things like that, but I'm all about the big budget stuff from a generation or two back, and we could always use more.
If you havent yet, you should pick up Botw, Doom, and Skyrim.
seems to be an upgrade in performance and graphics compared to the last AC collection on switch
Much better
ACIII Collection runs great now post-patch.
That’s awesome to know, was going to pick it up for $20 but I can’t deal with choppy frames.
I love games like this on the Switch. Picked up my copy today. Now if we could only get the Dead Space trilogy on here...
That would be perfect! Mark
Thank you for the great review I can’t wait download it tonight.
"Knee-deep shallows" was super clever, I'd subscribe just for that if I weren't already
I turned the motion controls off immediately. They are not good. Gyroscopic controls can be so finicky, but whenever I tried to just brace and aim in a specific direction, it felt like he was just drifting up every time and I couldn't aim right. You can fine-tune it, but it's just not worth it. God do I hate motion controls *so much.*
The port is great, though. I picked it up since it was $20 and I needed something to do while my other games were being delivered. Made a little progress, found the performance to be pretty much excellent with only a few minor graphical hiccups (mainly just a distance thing, some pop-in that's acceptable and when atop a perch you can see the square box extending outwards from your view, deciding where things stop spawning in and it looks weird). I'd easily recommend this for docked or handheld. It's a good price for the full AC:IV collection on handheld and it seems to go on sale often enough.
Before I order this, can you please pop into the settings and tell me if you can turn off that horrid white glow on everyone?
You can lower the brightness and it solve it. Get the game i had my doubts so i dint buy at launch and waited for fps test now i got it it runs great very great actually almost flawless 30fps and it looks sharp and no bluriness on hanheld mode.
Assassin's creed III: Liberation is still the only game that didn't have the animus Ave I'm forever grateful for that.
Now i want ubisoft to port unity on the switch...
It would be nice
Considering how ubisoft ported ac3 and how crap unity ran before the patches i think we can be lucky if the game will run over 10fps
Along with Syndicate on 1 card.
I mean unity runs like shit on consoles. So I wouldn't hold my breath.
Frin`se Rayn if they couldn’t get it to run on PS3/360, what makes you think it would run on a switch?😂😂
Nice combo and thanks for the recommendation
AC III and AC IV are my absolute favorite AC games.
Bought the game because of this video. Already played on PS4, but it's amazing on Switch!
The pop-in is a bit jarring every time it happens. And weirdly, the minimap suffers from very low frame rate even while the main visuals are at 30FPS.
Honestly, though. It runs really well and I love playing it on the bus or on my lunch break. Well worth the money
Yeah a couple of smaller issues that will be squashes first patch. Amazing game! Mark
it's so good but I can't get over how weak the water interaction is 😂 when you jump in and swim, it doesn't alter the water at all and overlays some splash effects
AC: Black Flag the last good Assassin's creed. AC this days is just a grind.
Great reviews guys 👍 im really getting it 👌 for first time playing. Thanks for the amazing review keep it up
Just bought both games E shop for 11.51.....aloha
I just got the mega bundle!! In my opinion these older games are perfect for switch (lite)
✌️❤️
My favorite AC, preaps I missed it during the video, but in the physical how much of the game and DLCs is in the cartidge and how much needs to be downloaded?
4 on cartridge rogue download I believe. Mark