🌟 Appreciate you all for tuning in! This topic is complex and fascinating-Buddha as an avatar of Vishnu? What do YOU think? Drop your thoughts below, whether you're a believer, a skeptic, or simply curious! Let's keep it respectful and open-minded as we explore these deep spiritual connections together. 🌟
Brahmins (Brahminism=New name Hinduism,sanatan) Brahmins used to write anything to rule They are the ones who divided the people of India.And even today the same work is going on in a new way (most are doing the same)Allah Upanishad in the times of Mughals Queen Victoria in religious texts during the British period and also Buddha is considered an incarnation of Vishnu.brahmin is given the status of their new God,Kalki Avatar to destroy Buddhist people😂Buddha has also been abused.I am just telling some truth about history and Words from the scriptures. not any hate.
Brahmin strategy to rule Brahminism to Hinduism to sanatan to another to another....... Kalki avtar was written by Brahm...for destruction of Buddhists In Mughal period- The Allah upnishad, puran etc written by bra.. for rule together. Nalanda was destroyed by one and burnt by the bra.. Queen Victoria and Buddhaavtar of Vishnu In scripture written by Bra...in British period for rule toget... And To prove that Buddha is a Hindu India's History BUDDHA VS BRAHMIN Budd... and Hind... are very different But Buddha explain concepts more deeper/well and very much😊
There is another Kalki Avtar of Vishnu who will come to destroy Buddhist and there would be a fight between Kalki and Buddha, thus Kalki will kill the Buddha and massacre all the Buddhist 😂 THE BRAHMINS ARE NOT TRUSTWORTHY, BECAUSE THEY ARE MOTIVATED BY GREED AND PRIDE. THE CASTE SYSTEM IS NOT NATURAL, BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON CONVENTION AND COERCION." PRAMāṇAVARTTIKA 2.56-57, TRANSLATED BY RICHARD HAYES THE DELUSIONAL BRAHMINS THINK OF THEMSELVES TO BE HEIRS OF BRAHMā. THEY THINK ALL PROPERTY IS THEIRS. THEY ARE THIEVES WHO STEAL PEOPLE. VASUBANDHU, ABHIDHARMA KOSHA, 4TH ADHYāYA THE BRAHMINS ARE NOT SUPERIOR BY BIRTH NOR ARE THE SHUDRAS INFERIOR. THE WISE ARE SUPERIOR BY WISDOM, AND THE FOOLISH ARE INFERIOR BY FOLLY. MULAMADHYAMAKAKARIKA 17.6 (TRANSLATED BY JAYL: GARFIELD) THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CASTE AMONG BEINGS. NOR IS ONE NOBLE OR LOW BECAUSE OF BIRTH. BUT DEEDS ALONE MAKE ONE NOBLE OR LOW. THIS IS THE TEACHING OF THE BUDDHAS. BUDDHGHOSA (VISUDDHIMAGGA XIV. 90)
If a person needs to label themselves and argue with others about their egoic self perceptions, then that's their problem and it will be until they let go of the fear of their ignorance of the divine nature of all things. ♾️🫶🏻🕊️🙏🏻
Sounds good, but how do you actively practice such without understanding one first through the application of such logic upon your own consciousness absent of ego's pull of the heart to knowledge.
@@jascott-tr9ek Brother then why are you typing and eating if everything is Maya, at least respect conventional truth, conventional truth is the path for Ultimate truth, we aren't competing here we are concerned with truth that Buddha was not deluder, nor he was Avtar of vishnu
Was my first thought. I mean who cares unless you're into tribal and ethnic rivalry? There are many paths to the top of the mountain. Focus on oneself and understanding and being kind. Sadly, most adherents of any world religion don't do that.
@@Paramasaugata Why? Learn the culture then ask why? You sound like you have no clue about the culture when you ask, "why are you typing and eating"...seek the knowledge first bro. Conventional truth is the path for ultimate truth? WHAT? who is telling you this? You sound more like an Abrahamic Religion(my way is the only truth everyone else goes to hell) then a seeker of truth. Both this culture never saw it that way.
Siddhartha Gauthama in the beginning had studied under many Hindu Guru before he went on his own to do his own way of meditation. That's where he found enlightenment. By saying he is the avatar of Vishnu, who knows? If the hindu text says do so what's the big deal? The essence of the teachings is more important than arguing over whether the egg or the chicken comes first.
You are missing the point of the podcast. The concept of Hinduism is an anathema to Buddhism's 1. Impermanence 2. Soul 3. Rebirth 4. Kamma 5. a supreme creator and most importantly the ability to formulate a code of ethics that is universal and valid to ALL beings regardless of faith/atheist, race, culture or gender/LLBGTQI+. Thus, the lie must be called out before it becomes a belief for future generations.
Listen to this teachings by the new Buddha- "Siri Samanthabadhra" - ruclips.net/video/UslYrMR8QmE/видео.html Learn his language "Sinhala" for more realization of truth.
Matsya - The fish who saved the Vedas and humanity from a great flood. Kurma - The tortoise who supported Mount Mandara during the churning of the ocean. Varaha - The boar who rescued Earth from the demon Hiranyaksha. Narasimha - The half-lion, half-man who destroyed the demon king Hiranyakashipu. Vamana - The dwarf who subdued the demon king Bali through his three giant steps. Parashurama - The warrior with an axe, who wiped out corrupt Kshatriyas. Rama - The prince of Ayodhya, the hero of the Ramayana, who defeated Ravana. Krishna - The divine statesman and warrior, the central figure in the Mahabharata, and teacher of the Bhagavad Gita. Sugata Buddha - The enlightened one, distinct from Siddhartha Gautama, often linked to a more mystical or esoteric form of Buddha in certain Hindu traditions. Kalki - The future warrior who will appear at the end of the Kali Yuga to restore righteousness.
Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism these are all just western attempts to distinguish various indian philosophy which they fail at miserably. Indian dharma isn't as simple as Judaism, Christianity or Islam where they all have their own version of single book that is revealed to them by one true God. These are inherently contradictory, such is not the case with Indian philosophy and Vishnu. In India contradiction can coexist. India has saints who give diksha to followers and guide them in the path of enlightenment. Every Avatar of Vishnu bring about reforms in the Dharma being followed within India. Parshuram being Brahmin took upon the Kshatriya Dharma and killed all the Kshatriyas who were on the path of Adharm. Which is radical as Brahmin are not expected to wage wars. This shows that Varna is not based on birth. Rama put emphasis on fulfilling promises and being faithful to single wife, even though at that time Kings generally had many wives. This shows radical thought, to reform dharma. Krishna taught not to be bound by promises, but follow Dharma according to situation, lie if it is for Dharma, fight if it is for dharma, and even plot against your enemies if it is for Dharma. Do what's best for the society without expecting any gains. Krishna also had many wives. All of these actions somewhat contradict and reform the teaching of previous incarnation. Then what is the problem if some of us see Buddha as someone who would teach us to follow a path for our own betterment, away from the sufferings of the world, a path that goes through our own self to attain Nirvana. Western people are quick to associate all Sanatan people to the Occult or Aghora but here they see power struggle and politics when Sanatan puts more emphasis on Ahimsa because of rise of Buddhism. Well it's just so typical of western people to try and plant seeds of division and separation within two of harmonious Indian cultures.
So you don't believe your god or whatever you want to call it, could have spread wisdom through the world? Why just "the east"? You clearly know very little about the Abrahamic religions and their histories
I'm a hindu and do follow the teaching of Buddhist as well. We are one, so kindly stop making such stupid assumption. Kindly education yourself further. Don't make Buddhist and Hinduism like the Abraham religion. Education yourself to forward NOT backwards.....thank you
Sorry basic fantalmental might be same. karma sys etc but ....... Higher wisdom is totally different. Hindulisum focus on eternal life. Budda eternal life is eternal suffering. Buddhist teaching is more consistant with Gnosis (early teaching of Christianity) this material world is evile. They try to escape from this world than more interesting is there villain who old tasamant God is evile they dont want people to escape. Same personality Maya from budishlisin.
@@maungmaung4037well my experience with Buddhism isn't about any of that shit. Rocks are hard and water's wet. Breath into an emerging understanding that you aren't that noise between your ears including your thoughts memories opinions and accomplishments or failures. Practice daily. Welcome your emerging friendliness to oneself and natural dignity and real humor and lightness of being. This is the emerging liberation of the being from the Tyranny of the Ego.
From india, Buddhism got major blows when : 1) pushyamitra shunga killed many buddhist monks and destroyed many monastaries, stupas & viharas 2) adi shankaracharya(vedic brahmin) who killed again many buddhist monks and converted/ usurped many Buddhist monastaries/shrines 3) Major & final blow was the destruction of major Buddhist mahaviharas such as Nalanda, Takshila, Odantapuri, Vikramshila,etc by both turks/persians & vedic brahmins, these mahaviharas carried many knowledge/wisdom, teachings of Buddha and its Dhamma, the Buddhas before Gautama Buddha and many more. Today Buddhism in india is struggling(less than 1% of the whole population) and is on the verge of extinction. We are sidelined in this hindu vs muslim wars. Hinduism is used as political tool for the appeasement of votes. It is a very sorry state for the Buddhists/Buddhism where Tathagat Buddha got enlightenment. We need international support to save this beautiful Dhamma.
As a Buddhist, I ever ask myself what if whatever the Buddha teaches are bullshit and untrue? Then I thought for a moment, What he teaches was how to be compassionate and be kind, to be a good human. If Nirvana is bullshit, then so be it.
@@VSM101 Ramayana which ramayana there are multiple ramayanas jain ramayan, buddhist ramayana, valmiki ramayana is not the only one, infact he must have plagiarized it from buddhist literature
Isn't bs. Being a good person, living by the Golden Rule, love your neighbor as yourself etc is real, and you will obtain enlightenment, even without a chosen god to worship, I did.... Its the archetype of these gods you are inviting into your life and wishing to become divine/godly as well. We all mess up in life, its what we do with it that matters. Confession and payments to someone you did not harm, does not absolve you of the karma with that person. Even if they forgive you, or you didn't get caught in this life. My 2cents, do with it as you will. I mean no harm.
Answers to complex questions lie in simple observations 1) Is Hindu an old name for a religion? When was this word, first used? This word has become popular in last 200 years. And this name has also expired because practitioners found out, it was cuss word in Middle East and zoroastrions. New name for this religion is Sanatan Dharma. 2) Temples - are there any old Hindu temples? Bodhgaya had become a Hindu temple 200 years ago. What was it, in reality. It was identified thanks to Archelogy of that time and travellers notes. What about other temples? All have controversies with very strong evidence of being Buddhist sites. Idols are fully covered in these temples today, photography is strictly not allowed, area close to idols is restricted and only hindu priests can get close to idols, others are not allowed in centre portion. Is covering these idols, a matter of decency? Even face is fully covered, eyes are painted, nose, head, ears, everything is hidden not just portion below neck or waist. Why r these idols so completely hidden? 3) How many Hindu texts refer to Buddha as an avataar? Just 2 or 3. Many more texts (10's) use cuss words for Buddha and seeing Buddha's face is not at all allowed. People following Buddha are cursed too. Bodhgaya judgement was based on these texts as evidence. 4) Archeological evidence - there are zero archeological evidences of any Hindu texts and idols before 7 century. Most evidences start after 12th century. Oldest Rig Veda manuscript submitted to UNESCO is from 15th Century. In which language are these written, how old are those languages? 5) All older references of Sanskrit are Buddhist Sanskrit(proto Sanskrit), it is heavily influenced by Pali and evidence suggests its derived from Pali Prakrit. Where are older refrences of classical Sanskrit, where is it's evolution?, any texts? It's grammer is written in 17th Century and a person from 17th century is credited for it's grammer. 3) Compassion. Which other avatar of Vishnu is known for compassion? Hindu epics like Mahabharata and Ramayana are filled with blood shed, these are main avatars of Vishnu. This confusion for compassion seems to be coming from Avalokiteshvara as most of his idols are worshipped as Vishnu today.
@@RB-ol1mx What a bunch of lies and misinterpretations! Let's break it down 👇 1) Sanatan dharma is not a new word!, the term Sanatan Dharma is ancient and has been used in scriptures like the Mahabharata to describe the eternal, universal principles that govern the cosmos. It is not a modern or recent concept, as you claim. The word "Sanatan" means eternal, and "Dharma" refers to righteousness. While "Hindu" might have linguistic roots in other regions, it was never a cuss word. 2) While some regions in India have a historical overlap between Buddhism and Hinduism, temples dedicated to Hindu deities predate many Buddhist sites by centuries!!!. Some well-documented temples, such as the Brihadeeswarar Temple in Tamil Nadu and the Sun Temple in Konark, have no Buddhist origins. The covering of idols in Hindu temples often serves as a symbol of sanctity and reverence, rather than a secretive or controversial act. The restrictions on idol proximity or photography are largely rooted in preserving the sanctity of the deity, which is a practice seen across many cultures and religions. 3)The Buddha is indeed recognized as an avatar of Vishnu in certain Hindu texts, like the Bhagavata Purana, Vishnu Purana, and other Puranas. While some texts criticize the Buddhist philosophy, it's crucial to understand that this is more about philosophical differences than personal attacks on the Buddha. The notion that many texts "curse" Buddha is an overstatement, and it's inaccurate to say that Buddha's face is disallowed in Hinduism. In fact, the Buddha has been respected by many Hindus as a reformer or enlightened being. The Bodhgaya judgment was more about reclaiming a historically significant Buddhist site, not based on curses or derogatory texts. 4) It's incorrect to say there are no archaeological evidences of Hindu texts or idols before the 7th century. For example, the Ashokan edicts (3rd century BCE) and the Heliodorus pillar (2nd century BCE) reference Hindu deities and practices. Many ancient temples and structures, like those found in Mahabalipuram, Ajanta, and Ellora, predate the 7th century and feature idols of Hindu gods. The oldest manuscript of the Rig Veda may date to the 15th century, but the oral tradition of the Vedas is much older, with origins tracing back thousands of years. These were transmitted orally long before being written down. The Rig Veda, for example, is estimated to be over 3000 years old. And Sanskrit is one of the oldest language of the world. 5) Sanskrit predates Pali and is much older, with references going back to Vedic Sanskrit. The Rig Veda, composed in Vedic Sanskrit, is much older than Buddhist texts, which are written in Pali. Pali, in fact, is a later, simplified language derived from Prakrit, not the other way around. The grammar of classical Sanskrit was formalized by Panini in the 5th century BCE, in his work Ashtadhyayi, not the 17th century as you claim!. Panini’s work is one of the earliest known attempts at a formal linguistic analysis and is still considered foundational in linguistics today. 6) It sad that you don't understand Symbolisms. Mahabharata and Ramayana can be seen not as literal violence but as representations of deeper inner conflicts and moral struggles. The war is between ignorance and wisdom, attachment and detachment, ego and the true Self. When Krishna advises Arjuna on the battlefield, it’s symbolic of the inner dialogue between our higher consciousness (Krishna) and our human ego (Arjuna).
Completely false and lies, your buddhist extremist propganda has limit, buddhsim it's mention many hindu gods worshiping or defected by buddha this is a clear case of religious propganda, it's what happened with chirstanity which said jews were croupct and Jesus was true god where as islam said both are their prophets and mahummad is last and true prophet. This is what we see both jains and buddhist have stories about hindu gods which is o Propganda as to show by buddhism is superior. And there are many Buddha's not just shidratha, he himself says there are many Buddha's before him and in jayakas buddha says in his past life his is ram and visudava.
Buddhsim is nothing but copy of hindu ideals and philosophys and trying to claim they did not. Its bot buddha who said thse nonsense but converted buddhist with full of ego ans attachment which is aganist buddha teachings. Hindusim alone is truth buddhism is falsehood and ruined by ego centric buddhsit.
absolutely correct. the whole hinduism is based on mahayana buddhist sect of buddhism. and even many hindu scholars and pandits also Confessed that all hindu gods are copied from Buddhism. there was no idol worshipping in earlier hinduism so there is no chance of oldest temple of them.
Lmfao Buddhism did the same thing along with rip our entire system Dharma karma and paste it into their crummy religion that lacks God. Which makes it false and stupid. I like many practice but only because their extensions from the only true source Satya Sanathana Dharma The True Eternal Law of God
PS : vishnus avatar is not Tathagat but rather some different hindu Buddha known as sugata buddha. So Gautam Buddha is not an avatar of vishnu. And btw, avatar is not a real thing rather imaginary & mythical
in theravada Buddhism, Bodhisattva could take anywhere from 3 to 22 countless eons (mahāsaṃkhyeya kalpas) to become a Buddha.in that time he is completing "paramitas", reborn again again again, as sometimes reborn as human, reborn as an animal, Reborn as demon, reborn as a god, reborn as a king of hell, etc.... After becoming a Buddha, various knowledges come down to him. One of those knowledges is his ability to see his previous selves. After he became enlightened, when he preached the Dharma to the living beings, he took the events of his previous selves as an example. Therefore, it has been mentioned about his selves. A book has been made, although it is not all about the his every selves, there are details about the 550 his selves, in that book the Lord Buddha is even mentioned in one selve named Rama, I have seen other similar things, I doubt whether Hinduism was created by the inspiration of Buddhism to be heavy on the side of God. I'm still studying about it💚💚💚💚💚
Points to keep in mind- * God is unlikely to tell his/her devotees to worship him/her but to follow a harmonious life as he achieved in his human life form, * Hindu dharma/ Sanatana dharma whatever they call it, does not fit to be a religion because it doesn't match the literal definition of religion, that is a culture/way of life of those people living in that area of the Indian subcontinent, it was not a sudden divine revelation like in the west, first you should understand what is it, * So, whatever any of Hindu/Buddhists believe that doesn't matter because he was born in that culture, raised in that culture but he had a super unique Godly human mind that doesn't get influenced by any culture, with that he reformed most Hindus/non-Hindu traditions inside and outside of India. I see on social medias that All great Western scholars like you only emphasize the Hindu caste system without knowing anything about it, it was a way of life of the distant past, not a belief system or religion so people have the freedom to evolve in a better way without that system, does it have any impact on any sector of their life now or not? did you see other parts of their life? Do you know any Hindu traditions except the caste system? Do you know what are the takes and morale of their books? *At least a few things you have noticed too, most Hindus are vegitarians( to be honest they don't know how to handle vegetables/grains/ fruits and what to eat, that's why they struggle with health issues-_- go and inspire farmers for organic/non-gmo/lectin-free), they don't kill innocent animals for their survivals like westerners slaughter for their daily survival and think plants want to kill them. * They don't discriminate against people for their color/ religion, that's why millions of Mushlims can live there without rioting. they know what free speech is and what are just violent hateful words, * I doubt Hindus claim that Buddhism's founder is their own God, you are interpreting it in the wrong way if that were the case people would have started building temples of Buddha with Vishnu and start worshiping him with Hindu rituals, I doubt you'll find any, claiming Buddha an avatar of Vishnu Doesn't disrespect Buddha in any way or it doesn't hide Hindu dharma's popularity decline in India, you can change your religion but you can't change your thousand years old way of life(that is Sanatana dharma), it is not a belief system/ God's own words to a prophet. * On one side Hindu texts state that he was an avatar of Vishnu(according to you), but you should also remember that it was not prophesied by a prophet of God, it was written by some spiritual sage-like person hundreds of years ago by that time. Idk if he was a person of Buddha's time he can assume Godly wise Buddha as an avatar of Vishnu. I highly doubt that time he thought Buddhism would be a thing in the future, a great religion of millions, and people will get offended by his writings(my condolences), * On the other side Buddhists who get offended for calling Buddha something else or someone else's God, don't you think you are failing to grasp Buddha's teachings when you get offended for those little things? What did you learn from Buddha? To get offended by that? My condolences. I think I am more buddhist than those Buddhists now. Budha's greatness will not be diminished by badmouthing or worshiping him like a God. What are you so afraid of? You are not a Mushlim, use your brain. * The most important point for both sides of the people is- "You don't know and you will never know lol". * There are more colors in the universe, it's not just black and white. * Don't just blindly follow Buddha, be one with Buddha, be Buddha.
The claim that you said in the video that he created a new path as an enlightenment path is wrong. There have been many enlightened being before and after him . There is a saying in india " Trust the words of your guru more than the sprictures itself" , the very concept of religion is abhramic construct. All those who limit their identities by claiming themselve 'hindu' or 'buddhist' are not truly spiritual , even the vedas and upanishads themselves are accumulation of the spiritual teachings of 'rishis' (ancient sages or enlightened beings) where the goal of spiritual endeavour is to recognize the true nature of existense which is identical to the 'self', they are called 'divine relevations' by 'god' because they are realized by the enlightened beings and paased through oral 'guru- shishya(Master -student) tradition' and later they were written by one guy 'Ved Vyasa' , that's where the word vedas come from and the meaing of 'vedas' itself in sanskrit means 'spiritual knowledge' . Many may call it by different names and present it having different natures throughout cultures as 'Brahman'(by hindus) , 'Shunyata' (by buddhists) , ' Tao(or Dao )(by chinese toaists) , or simply 'god' .But the goal in eastern spirituality at the essense is liberation from suffering . The way you reach it may be different but 'Truth' only one at the end.
Buddha never said such things he said if there is god let him be there don't rely on him what you must rely on is your will God won't need to help you. Please stop spreading hate and be a human :)
What? That is funny but there were 28 buddhas before gautama buddha. You should know that buddha was a title g8ven to the great enlightened sages in the state of ancient bihar. It is not limited to one person. And nope, Buddha doesn't says whatever you are claiming
Parshuram: Actively killing the most corrupt Khsatriyas of that time to bring order Ram: Killing Ravan the demon king because he crossed his path & abducted Sita Krishna: Becoming a simple Charioteer & guide to Arjun the Hero of Mahabharata Buddha: Guiding the simplest of the people to not rely on God & make their own way & attain enlightenment. Don't you see a pattern here already? A vengeful God like that of the abrahamic one will always try to interfere in people's life to assert his dominance. But the creator who resides in every being as the true divinity himself will only try to reach them to become self reliant on themselves, & this can be noticed throughout Vishnu's successive avatars, Buddha being the most recent of them all. Buddha didn't ask to not believe in God, he simply said not to be bothered by His existence. How does that contradicts him being the avatar of Vishnu?
There were/are many cases where Buddha Statues been given a makeover to fool the naive devotees into thinking its a Hindu God. The insecurity & jealousy of Hindu priests used to speak volume back in the days. Muslims openly destroyed Buddha statues but Hindus (not all, some) used to be like the smiling face extending one for a handshake & the other holding a knife behind its back. Having said this, I harbor no hate towards 'Hinduism'. There is only 'Dharma' . Concept of 'religions' came later & it corrupted the spiritual stream of minds. All these 'isms' were sowed by outsiders to create confusion, division & hatred.
To begin, it is not Buddhism; rather, it is a distillation of the teachings of the Buddha dharma, developed and brought forth by Siddhartha Gautama. It's like saying Jesus was a Christian. Siddhartha was part of the Sramana Movement, which happened to revise the path of the enlightened one, the path of the Buddhahood. Dualistic language, which separates the basic teaching from the disemminator's point of view, is often used to explain the problem that comes up when the western mind tries to get in the way of the eastern paths. Firstly, there is nothing novel in this context. Hinduism and Buddhism are formalised concepts that have been imposed upon India's dharmic paths. Siddhartha’s teachings have not surprisingly had a big impact on Shri Shankarchria. Santana Dharma is the compassion of all the dharmas of Bharat.
Hinduism today is a mix of Shaiva (followers of Shiv), Vaishnav(followers of Vishnu) and Sakt(followers of Shakti/Durga). Shaiva was founded by Shankaracharya born in 780 AD, Vaishnava was founded by Ramanuja born in 10th Century). These paths copied Buddhism's Mahayana and Vajrayana and used their characters, stories, words, symbols and that's why things have got very confusing and murkier today. When u look for Hindu symbols - lotus, elephant headed Buddha, Stories of Ram (Dasrat jataka), Krishna/Vasudev(Ghat jataka) you find older evidences of all these in Buddhism. Sanskrit in claimed to be oldest language in the whole world, millions of years old but all evidences of Sanskrit before 11th Century is Proto/Buddhist hybrid Sanskrit. The truth is that today's Sanskrit has got evolved from Buddhist Sanskrit and that's why linguistics had to give a seperate name to Buddhist hybrid Sanskrit because all old texts and evidences are found in this language. Shiv and Vishnu are evolved from Padmapani, Vajrapani, Avalokiteshvara. Their temples have been converted into Shaiva, Vaishnava temples. Bodh gaya was being used as Shaiva temple. In South India, court ordered that a temple was Buddha's and stop Hindu ceremonies there. Oldest Shiva temple in Himachal is visited by both Shaivites and Vajrayana Buddhists, you can see the idol as clearly of Avalokiteshvara. Some things evolve as a parasite over another body and totally consume it to such an extent that it becomes difficult to distinguish between the parasite and the host. These things are only interesting from a History and Archeology point of view. Otherwise it's not even worth paying attention to these things. Just trying to understand the good stuff which Buddha taught is enough for person along with all the modern knowledge and wisdom which we have today
Brother how about that I see there has been all the evidence of existence of Vedas existing way before 1500 bc and purana puranas even before Vedas existed..how about I say the events which occurred in ramayana took place about 5000 bce where budhism was found only at 5bce where even lord Buddha was born in 563bce and ur saying Hinduism was inspired by budhism? Man ur only taking about sect..sanatan dharma as a whole existed way before any religion was ever made..concept of Shiva and Vishnu where long before there was shaivism and Vaishnavism...know history
@@arm3199 what's the evidence of Vedas existing thousands of years ago? What's evidence for ramayan 5000 bce? You are referring for Bharmnical oral claim history from books written by them few hundred years ago. Where is the real Archeological evidence? Valmiki Ramayan has references of using Gun Canons, do u believe it was written in 5000 bce?
@@RB-ol1mx evidence is sutta pitak itself which talks about vedas and early Upanishads multiple times. Btw there is no archeological evidence of Buddha himself too. So should we consider him mythical and buddha is just a state of mind rather than being a person? Anyway sutta pitak itself is a scriptural proof of early existence of vedas and older Upanishads.
@@RB-ol1mxoops after reading your full description I clearly understand how politically misguided you are imao. How about going to Tibet with your navayana proofs so that they start claiming these? How about file a complaint in the court? You can't because all your statements are lie 😂 ( let me tell you a secret. Early buddhism is a upper caste construct. Majority of the students of Buddha and early mahasiddhas belongs to brahmin and kshatriyas family. Search about these students. You will find the truth.)😊
@@southegamer7430 Ved is a pali word. Which Ved does Sutta Pitak talk about ? Rig Veda, Yajur Veda, Sama Veda or Athrav Veda? Hindu Priests just read Ved and get orgasmic they have found proof of their existence. And most importantly why do Hindu Brahmins always goto Buddhist Litreture to find existence of their father? Do they have any proofs of their own? Buddha has more archeological evidences than any other religious figure in the world. Do your research on Archelogy of Buddha's relics - how were these found using Travellers notes from hundreds of years ago. In how many layers was this archeology done before these relics were found? What all was found along with these relics & it was clearly mention that these relics are of Shakaya Muni Buddh. Also look at all old archeological evidences found in India. Apart from Buddha, is there anything else? Stupas of Vaishali, Sarnath, 100's of structures. Even Mathura which is considered the main place of Lord Krishna, just goto the Mueseum there which has all archeological findings from that region.You wont find any Krishna idols, its all filled with Buddha. Unless you open your eyes & see things in a scientific & logical way, you will always be delusional.
Actually religion is western concept there is no religion in india buddhism, Hinduism, jainism are terms for traditions +philosophy. These all religions are intertwined and connected.
IMO Vedic Hinduism before Buddhism was like Western Pagan religions before Christianity, the difference is Hinduism adapted to the new ideas and survived alongside Buddhism
Hinduism has survived for so long for this tolerance to change, even when Abrahamic religions were entering India, New Hindu scriptures such as allahupanishad were written to adopt and interpret the new ideas coming to the Subcontinent.
Absolutely correct and support this notion at 101%. The end result will be spiritual development, liberation, nirvana, mukti, moksha, salvation. If Buddhism is a philosophy, then having such identity has no meaning. But if you treat Buddhism as a religion, then YES, you will become another fanatics and thus turns Buddhism into another fanaticism. As far as my knowledge hold, Buddhism is not a religion because it doesn't has another set of beliefs in any God entity. So who cares whether is Gautama was an avatar of Vishnu...??? So what if he is or was? So what if he isn't? What has all these argument got to do with your spiritual development...???
Vishnu is just self evident preserving, sustaining principle of existence even if those periods are different for every other temporary thing. political people are using medias and using art of symbolism literally and turning Hindus and Buddhists against each other 😂
@@Batega_toh_Katega_Hindu_108 Bravo...!!! I'm 101% totally agreed with this observation. Any individual will experience life and explore life in all sort of different ways based on the different era, different dimension of human history. Any well-informed and sensible people will know this. Only those who are paranoid, ignorance, craziness, mentally-illness and insensible people will take this into fanaticism and insanity level just to protect their so-called identity. What we are more interested is to seek clarity and knowingness and inclusiveness; rather than superiority and exclusivity just to protect this entity.
IT IS ASHAME THAT THERE IS COMPETITION IN RELIGION OUT OF CONFUSION; IN KABBALAH IN THE CROWN OF THE TREE OF LIFE THERE IS: KETHER. CHOKMAH AND BINAH, THE SECOND FORCE WHICH IS CHOKMAH IS IN REALITY THE SON OF GOD ALSO CALLED THE CHRIST IN THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION, AVALO KITESVARA IN BUDDISM, VISHNU IN HINDUISM, THE SECOND LOGOS IT IS NOT A PERSONALITY BUT A FORCE THAT MUST BE ENCANATED, SO, VISHNU CANNOT BE IN COMPETITION WITH BUDDHA BECAUSE BUDDHA ENCARNATED THE CHIST, VISHNU, AVALO KITESVARA OR AS IT IS CALLED IN KABBALAH HE ENCARNATED CHOKMAH, SO WE CAN SAFELY SAY THAT BUDDAH SIDARTA WAS AN ENCANATION OF VISHNU, BECAUSE VISHNU IS A FORCE LIKE THE ELECTRICITY, A FORCE THAT SOME GREAT AVATARS HAVE INCARNATHED LIKE: KRISHNA, SIDHARTA SAKIAMUNI, ZOROASTRO, JESUS THE CHIST, AND SO ON. VISHNU INCARNATED IN KHRISNA SAID: "Whenever there is a decline in religious practice, and a predominant rise of irreligion at that time I descend Myself." THE CHRIST OR VISHNU OR WHATEVER HAS BEEN CALLED THROUGH THE AGES IT IS THE SAME FORCE THAT ENCARNATES ON DIFFERENT BODIES TO RENEW THE RELIGION THAT IS BECOMING EXTINCT OR DYING OUT.
Buddha taught that the most effective communication came from the heart of a person with a serene and balanced mind. He gave us pathways that led to unconditional love and unconditional compassion. He was the embodiment of the highest virtue we could ever want. He was not concerned with beginnings he was concerned of freedom of ownership and destiny that was inherited but not earned. The matter of he said, they said is a willful distraction. Knowledge cannot be owned. Love is birthed humility is shown understanding is the pathway
First of all you all need to understand what is the real meaning of Sanathana Dharma?..And also Sanathana Dharma is a Suddha paripoorna Dharma to practice in daily basis of this life which leads to understand who is ParaBrahman and Brahman who is Paramatma and Atma. The exact meaning of Sanathana dharma practice is to understand or realize “Atma Jnaana Tattva” philosophy in the aspect of science of self realisation.
This is what happens when you have Half knowledge of Hinduism and Buddhism. Bro Hinsuism also has Atheistic philosophies like Sankhya and Advaita. Please read the Advaita and Sankhya philosophies also read Madukya, Chandogya and Tattirya upanishads. Also read the Nasadiya Suktam from Rig veda. Hinduism was never a religion neither was Buddhism. Buddhism is a path to enlightenment Hinduism are Paths to enlightenment. All these paths were given a tag known as Hinduism. There are multiple ways to enlightenment just like there are multiple ways to the peak of the mountain.
Hi Matt, just look at your opening statement > "What if everything you know about Buddhism and Hinduism is built on a lie?" I don't know why do you consider it as a "LIE"? A lie to me meant "a deviation from the truth". Now comes the interesting part; what's TRUTH? Can you explain what's Truth? Do you know what's Truth? Just because someone experienced life and explore life in a different ways, does that constitute it as a "LIE">>>??? Who set this benchmarking in the first instance...??? And in your narrative, you mentioned about Indian Buddhism scholars (blah...blah...). Who are these damned bloody so-called scholars??? Didn't Gautama warned his disciples/followers that "Whoever comes to the defense of my teachings upon criticism; is not worthy to be my disciples/followers". Btw (take it as a reminder), controversial debates only happens to monotheistic religion where they have a set-of-beliefs. Whereas for Buddhism and Hinduism, there is no such set-of-beliefs; because their ultimate goal is to attain Nirvana or Moksha/Mukti respectively, which also means Liberation or Freedom in plain meaning OR some terms it as Salvation. In closing (btw), don't be too attached and paranoid with all these wordings because the TRUTH cannot be expressed in any form of humanly words OR earthly languages. The TRUTH is just simply the truth. It doesn't needs any form of approval &/or acceptance. Because if it is THE TRUTH, then just once is enough. If it's not the truth, no amount of testimony is able to correct it.
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It is very sad that Buddhism erase the native cultures wherever it went just like Islamists did. But the good part is that it failed to erase the native culture of India. But hopefully with the modernisation East Asians are also abandoning this missionary ideology which erased their culture.
Au narrateur il y a pas debats,, l'Hinduism est un de plus ancient n'est pas et quel est l'origine de la méditation et yoga! Et puis la destination est le même juste différent chemin
This is a very interesting video indeed. However there are a few points that needed to be better discussed. For example, the phrase that Buddhism "spread like wildfire" is somewhat questionable, since it was forcefully made into an official religion in Asoka's times, with Inquisition-like persecutions of "pagans" and of "heretics" (even though this does not necessarily reflect the Buddha's teachings). The video also completely overlooks the British colonization and its role on both the standardization of castes and on the construction of moderns' imagery of India as a "savage" place, a derogatory move made by colonialists worldwide to ease/justify their invasion. Finally, the claim that Siddhartha was "merely human" is also not standard for all schools of Buddhism (in many sects he is shown to have magical/miraculous powers, being reincarnation of mystical entities from past/future lives, and so on). This reading that Buddhism's teachings come from a "self-made man" is too Americanized to be taken seriously: practically all Buddhists traditions involve mystical elements without any need to tender to moderns' sensibilities. As to the main problem itself, that if Buddha is an Avatar of Vishnu, another point needs to be taken seriously: after official patronage and standardized single-religion empires fell out of favour after the Mauryas, Buddhism already lost much of its weight in day to day lives since it was no longer the enforced faith - which gave way to the renaissance of diversity of religious faiths. I believe your final point, that there were mutual influences that retroactively complexified both faiths is spot on - nonetheless, I stand by the points raised here. Great job! 😁
Forced is not right though, after Ashoka became full Buddhists he did take conversion as path but less violence thats what i heard and dont forget Pushyamitra Sunga made large contribution to kikling of Buddhist later Mughals too and also due to lots of patronage by kings many Buddhists left being bikhu and started opening schools etc and due to core principles like non violence many tend to stay away from conflict so that's how Buddhism decline cus after they left becoming bikhu most common people were left with no knowledge of Buddhism.
while buddhism talks about gods and demons, it also says that we don't need to worship a external god and can be our own god with the power of our minds and emphasizes that gods are also beings just like humans and that too is impermenant. The life of a god shall end too when they have finished their good karma and fall back into the cycle of reincarnation. The core principles and teachings of buddhism are on improving our selves and awakening teh power of our minds through constant meditation and the final goal is enlightenment.
From the circles of propaganda of Bheemte now even this dude is spreading nonsense. It was Buddhism who literally took over native culture of Asia and Southeast Asia erasing the earlier pagan faith.
Many budda's or monks existed before the famous budda. The real budda was Shakyamuni Buddha, from the shakya clan. From Afrika. If you look at this topic from an historical perspective you find that many migrations took place and buddism existed way before Sakyamuni was born. Bhuddism is older than hindoo.😊
@@Sheshnāga-x1k I read 4 main Buddhas and Kassapa Buddha was the predecessor, which are in current eon. I'm sure there are many others before that as well. Either way, there were many Buddha's before Gautama, but many people forget and think there's only one.
@@roselavender2222 there was Buddha culture .Buddhism came later and people forget other Buddha because shakyamuni buddha was he was genius even they ended up this culture of became Buddha but devdatta and his sangha continued this culture later Mahayana born due to devadatta and his sangha and monks who ignored other Buddha became Theravada I think
This stated In the Vedas Buddha is the 9th incarnation of the 11 incarnations really just moods of himself during yugas time and circumstance. Stay Pradyumna Pradyumni that is expansions sons and daughters of him.
Bro, it doesn't matter whether Buddha is an avatar of Vishnu or not, we can't prove it. Spirituality is a personal quest; the real truth is your own experience. So, don't spread hatred. As far as I know, Bharat (India today) is always a secular country. It's a land of seekers, not a land of believers. It doesn't matter if you're Buddhist, Hindu, Jain, Sikh, or even Atheist; all are respected (Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam). May all beings, everywhere, be free and happy..🙏
I see a lot of hate comments towards Hindus and Hinduism in the comment section here from the so called" Buddhists"! A true Buddhist wouldn't pass such remarks on any other Dharmic traditions. A true buddhist would understand that both traditions are talking about the Same Ultimate truth!
This is called playing victim card 😂, A true hindu would never call Buddha avtar of vishnu, have you ever read those remarks written against buddhist by hindus, You will never talk about them, you have come here just to play victim card
@@Paramasaugata Cry all you want, , whether it's Buddhism, Jainism or Sikhism all comes under the umbrella of Sanatana Dharma. Each dharmic paths has its own unique way to attain liberation. All of them belongs to this land and will always be the part of Dharma.
@@ParamasaugataShow me something about Buddha written about Buddha in Vedas or Upanishads. Hindu Scholars are free to write their own opinions, it doesn't mean all hindus agrees with them.
Exactly, Vishnu is just self evident preserving, sustaining principle of existence even if those periods are different for every other temporary thing. political people are using medias and using art of symbolism literally and turning Hindus and Buddhists against each other
In order to understand religion we must study Kabbalah and once we do we will not make the mistake of taking sides because all religions come from the same root but because the Second Logos Reencarnates in an Avatar in different ages and different laguages thus the different names, the Hindu called him Vishnu, the Christians call him Christ but it is the same force for ever and ever. Avatar means messenger of God is an individual prepared through a number of existences to encarnate the Second Logos then he becomes a messenger of God to reinstate Religion to it's original form, relgions faint through time and becomes Dogmatic and through time loses it's core of the doctrine when that happens religions are full of believers and seldom any Initiates, so the mission of an Avatar it is to open the door to the Initiatic path which is the core of every Religion when founded. But please let's not confuse an Avatar with the Second Logos or Aura Mazda or Vishnu, or Christ, or Chokmah , Osiris. While Jesus, Buddah, Fu-Ji, Zoroastro, Samael Aun Weor, Quetzalcoatl, are encarnations of the Christ, therefore Avatars. I hope this comments disipate doubts to some.
If Buddha was an avatar of Vishnu then let all the Hindus convert to Buddhism to prove their point. Why shouldn't the Hindus follow Buddha as they claimed who he was (This does NOT apply vice versa as Buddhism does not accept that theory at all. I don't believe it so I stand rejecting it. You believe it, prove it by your conversion. Don't contradict belief and action or you prove yourself a liar) And not to mention that Buddhism have been purged from India. So they chased their god out of the country? Well done. Similaries notwithstanding, it is still fundamentally different from the core. Like Roman Catholics and Christians. I might like to see who has the argument to merge these two religions together.
Vishnu is not the main deity in ancient Vedic religion. Vishnu was a Sramana deity who was latter merged in into the Vedic religion. There were many sramana traditions. Really good video and you are right, but you didn't expose Hinduism, and all its propaganda about Buddha fully. The puranic version is the inspiration from Buddhist stories.
What a load of western evangelical abrahamic misinterpretation! This is a very modern controversy created by evangelicals who either knowingly or unknowingly misinterpreted the two Buddhas. They have the same name, but they are distinct entities. 1. The Hindu Buddha has at least two major versions depending on which part of India you're from. But they're both different from Siddhartha Gautama Buddha the founder of Buddhism. Unfortunately, most Hindus don't know their version of Buddha, and fall for this evangelical misinterpretation. 2. Debates and conflicts between Hindus and Buddhists are well documented by both sides as part of their hagiographies of their Teachers/Gurus. Nowhere, at least that I know of, have there been any ancient or medieval debates between Hindus and Buddhists about Buddha being an Avatar or not. Provide Evidence about such debates before colonial times. 3. This idea, that ancient and medieval Hindus and Buddhists debated over the identity of Buddha is a modern concoction which has pervaded every present discussion from literature to small talk. But truth is, they're both different entities. 4. This need not be a reason for controversy, only some corrupt people make it to be. This can actually be the middle ground for mutual respect and admiration between Hindus and Buddhists. Only fickle minded people who hate different communities from coming together and building strong syncretic culture based on mutual respect and acknowledgement will try to create such controversies. 5. No Buddhist temples or places of worship were taken away by Hindus. In fact, so high is the spiritual connect of the people of this land with their nature, that all faiths, Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, etc. were all drawn to the same places. Also, flourishing markets and trade routes were what spread religion back in the day, which is why every religion, no matter where it was born, eventually had to make its way to one the major cities/janapadas of that time. 6. Yes, the Hindu temples appear at the same places after the Decline of Buddhism. But this is not an act of occupation, but an act of co-opting the same spiritual place/pilgrimage. People may have forgotten the history of the Buddhist caves and monasteries, but passers by would've have seen these ruins and interpreted them as once sacred sites and would have started worship in their own way. It is an organic and natural process and not agenda driven. Also, why would the statues and stupas of Buddhism be preserved and Hindu temples and statues be added adjacent to these caves, if they wanted to erase Buddhism? They could have simply demolished the Buddhist temples. But such demolition does not happen, new temples just come up adjacent, because the place/pilgrimage is sacred and worship must continue there. 7. The concept of Avatara in Hinduism is as old as the Vedas themselves. It is not a late creation as it has been said in the video. The epics of Ramayana and Mahabharata or their cognate versions evolve in all the three major religions more or less simultaneously. Concept of Avatar in Hinduism predates Buddhism. So the last part is even more modern rubbish.
I enjoyed listening to your video. Thank you! This is going to be a life long dialogue with no conclusions! I am a Buddhist married to a Hindu, and we have respect for each other's beliefs & traditions. As a Buddhist my core belief & goal is to lead my life with love & compassion for others, and reduce my cravings & desires which will continue to keep me engaged in the cycle of death & re-birth! 🙏
Love your videos though disappointed you have begun to use captions like all the other Buddhism channels. Don't know why as there is an option for them already. A bit to distracting for me as I really enjoyed your ones without. I guess I will have to look elsewhere. All the best! 🙏
The narrator is trying to make an argument as if Indian Buddhist were completely different. Remember but the himself was born a Hindu family and Indian Buddhist were all converts even in ancient time from Hindu backgrounds. Obviously they will have their ancestral cultural practices being part of the new ideology that they chose. That's why you see numerous Pakistani still knowing or without knowing still following many of their ancestral Hindu practices. This is just another Political narrative claim as if Buddhism was not a minority but was some sort of majority and blame the Hindus. But this seems to forget that Buddhist have completely erased From Southeast Asia who were Hindus before and then later on came on Buddhist Completely overtook. A good example is Thailand Vietnam which had major Hindu kingdoms like Champa kingdom which was later on completely overtaken by Buddhist.
No such thing as Hindu during the Great Buddha Awakening. The Knowledge spreads to the East and the West to the North. Matter of fact it was a World Wide Movement. Simply observing and you will find Buddhism everywhere since Ancient times. The term “Hinduism” was born yesterday by imperial Britain. Don’t be a fool.
@@Handle_Edit Bheemta seems to dont know what is sanatan dharma which we call Hinduism today. Weather it is Sanatana Dharma or Vedic Hindusim but Buddhas was born in fifth century and Buddhist missionarie stole all the cultural practices from earlier Vedic Hinduism. Bheemta Seems to don't know that all the earlier archaeological findings were done under British people and other Europeans who had nothing to do with Hindus and later on by the Indian archaeology the survey of India. So an entire Europe Japan India Will not be lying here
@@PK-se2jhRamta, videshi lutera should know that ASI denied your so called Fictional Gods. So Ramta first show evidence of them. And don't come with Gaumutra. We don't like filthy Gaumutra community.
The words “Hinduism “ or “Hindu religion” are not belong to Bharat desham. There is only one dharma that is Sanathana Dharma . We are not belong to any religion.We are the always top above all religion which means Sanathana Dharma.
In the Pali cannon it is mentioned in the Venhu and Siva Sutthas from the devatha samyuththa in suththa pitaka, that both Vishnu and Shiva came to Lord Buddha and declared them as Buddhists. Further more in Srilanka Vishnu is considered as a Bodhisattva who will attain Buddhahood after Maithreya. It is very much possible that Hindus got this Bodhisattva idea confused and misinterpreted it or simply turned it the other way. More evidence for this is while Vishnu is worshipped in almost all Theravada Buddhist countries Buddha is not worshipped in India by Hindus. If he was a Vishnu Avatar why no temple erected for this most important avatar of compassion instead of other more warrior like avatars? Buddhist nun from Srilanka
Its not important if he was an divine avatar or a man. Not even the biggest fan of Buddhism as it removes God from the equation who gives life and everything emantes from. Regardless the 8 fold noble path and dharma and karma are good enough to help people morally and somewhat spiritually. But only meditation and no yoga it can't be a true system of God or the answer. Only Satya Sanathana Dharma has meditation yoga tantra siddhis and much more. Meditation for mastery of the mind yoga for mastery of the body tantra master sexual energy siddhis are yogic superpowers that one can achieve through mastery of the self and attaining samadhi. I pray all souls realize the whole truth of rhe multiverse that is explained in Sanathana Dharma❤ Har har Mahadev ♥️ Hare Buddha ♥️ Hare Adiparashakti Devi ♥️ Hare Krishna ♥️ Hare Brahma ♥️
Hinduism as we know it is a relatively new religion. In the time of Buddha, they did not worship Shiva and Vishnu, but Brahma, and they did not have the concept of an avatar.
@@Gangleri-rq1gp Hinduism, or more accurately Sanatan Dharma, is one of the oldest religious traditions in the world, with roots going back over 3,000 years. It has evolved over millennia, but its core concepts-such as dharma, karma, and moksha-have remained consistent. The idea that "Hinduism" as we know it is "new" likely stems from the modern usage of the term "Hinduism," which gained prominence during the colonial period. However, the traditions, rituals, and philosophies of Sanatan Dharma have existed since the time of the Vedas, which predate Buddhism by centuries. Your claim that people didn’t worship Shiva and Vishnu during the time of the Buddha (circa 5th century BCE) is incorrect. Shiva, Known as Rudra in the Rig Veda (which dates back to 1500-1200 BCE), Shiva’s worship has deep Vedic roots.Vishnu is also mentioned in the Rig Veda, By the time of the Mahabharata (which has early layers composed around 400 BCE or earlier), Vishnu was already recognized as a major deity. The concept of avatars (divine incarnations) is found in pre-Buddhist texts like the Vishnu Purana and the Mahabharata. For example, the story of Vishnu's avatars like Narasimha and Vamana predates the Buddha. The Dashavatara (ten avatars of Vishnu) includes references to avatars that existed long before Buddhism, showing that the idea of divine incarnation was well-established in ancient Indian thought.
True, 'Hindu' is a term not found in the ancient Pali texts of Buddhism, or the ancient Sanskrit texts of the Brahmins or the Vaishnavas, or the Shaivas, or the Yoga texts, or the Tantras. It seems to be a term imposed by the Persians, from the Persian misprounciation of 'Sindhu', referring to the Sindhu river. It is a very problematic term...
This video is incredibly thought-provoking! The exploration of Buddha as an avatar of Vishnu sheds new light on ancient religious debates and really challenges our understanding of both Buddhism and Hinduism.
Nop,it's childish n immature.now a days becoz of many foreigners hab become a great scholar n high practioner of Buddha in India n abroad so nowadays they r trying to claim wat they hab rejected by sword or word..in philosophy or in practice it's totally different on the ground but some. Upper caste Hindu policy maker r trying new things to stay relevant..
Buddha is Avatāra of Bhagvān Viṣṇu is a matter of debate, some Purāṇas consider him some not. But personally I don't consider him as an Avatāra of Bhagvān Viṣṇu. Buddha was included in Daśavatāra, during late Gupta era and Vardhana era, during this time Buddha was accepted by Hindus and several Hindu gods were included in Mahāyāna Buddhism. The original Daśavatára(Ten Avatāras of Bhagvān Viṣnu) list 1. Matya 2. Kurma 3. Vārāha 4. Narasiṃha 5. Vāmana 6. Paraśurāma 7. Rāma 8. Balarāma 9. Kṛṣṇa 10. Kalki
Dr. Sunthar Visuvalingam was consulted. He completely agreed that Buddhism began as a separate tradition, but became intertwined with Hinduism at all levels through its very challenge to the latter. After all, what matters for Indian religious history is their dialectical evolution. More broadly the same principle also applies, with appropriate modifications, to the three Abrahamic religions, which could be interpreted globally as competing strands of a single tradition emerging and branching out from a common trunk. Unfortunately, in the process of sensationalizing the issue if the Buddha is an avatāra of Viṣṇu, the narrator has omitted the crucial context of acculturation, which is valid for Buddhism even outside of the Indian subcontinent.
Visnu Avatars is the belief held by Vaisnavaism, one major school beside Shaivism and Shaktiism. So, yogis who follow Tantra or Shaivism dont take it as their belief. we cannot see it as the beleif of the whole Hindus. Actually Buddha practiced a form of Tantric practice passed down from gurus to disciples among ascetics, he learned it from guru Sanjay, he shared the same guru with Vradaman Mahavir - the last tirthankara (supreme teacher) of Jainism. Buddha and Mahavir were rebelling against Brahmanism especially caste system. In Tantra, it is very common disciples of certain gurus then teach quite differently with the teaching of their gurus, this happen with Buddha also, because Tantra is science of expansion of mind - so it is not as rigid as in dogmatic religion
3 schools, Buddha as an avatar to deceive bad people into giving up vedic sacrifices, Buddha as an avatar to guide, and finally Buddha being a common enlightened man... which one is it? I think it is the last option...
Buddha was with us was amongst us and lived on earth like anyone of us , got married and had a child but he renounced everything in search of the truth which included that the creation of the earth and it ‘s living beings was not an act of god but a natural phenomenon as science has proved and being proved as I write and that natural phenomena is changing right in front of our eyes and will continue to change and evolve as Buddha said’all matter is subject to change and nothing is permanent including more Buddha’s will be born and pass away as it has happened 28 times before Gautama Buddha. Buddha was not born in India but in Nepal .A sovereign kingdom nation at the foothills of the Himalayas which was not even conquered by the British nor by the Mogul dynasties . As for Hinduism,It is mythology. That is my take. As Buddha said’May all beings be happy” Milindha
BTW, hinduism is not the oldest religion as ìts claimed, they follow the oldest which is the Sumerian civilization and culture, hindoo priests and bramins used buddist monks to translate sanskrit literature. Shakyamuni bhudda is not an avatar of vishnu. Vishnu is based on the god of the abyss from sumerian. This claim is just a propaganda to get bhuddists to convert to hindoo. The real religion is braminism. 😮😊
I am very glad that you brought this topic. Many Buddhists around the world are unknown about this aggression and the history which occurred in ancient time and until this day and age. The authority and the ownership on holy Buddhist sites like Bodhgaya and Lumbini in the present day by the Hindu Brahmins is nothing but the truth.
@@VSM101 In bodhgya temple committee there must be 4 hondus and 4 Budhhist and the District magistrate should be a Hondu, can't you see that, this is aggression of Hondus
@@parjanyashukla176 he belonged to kshtriya that doesn't mean he was hondu, there were warrior class in chinese civilization that doesn't mean chinese warrior class were Hondus 😂
I'm a Daoist and it's seems to me that is all connected the Vishnu the Budha and every incarnation of celestial beings or reincarnations of ordinary people which they possesed a superhuman abillitys in order to enlightened, help the mankind to emprove himself,collect ultimate knowlegne and get them to the inner self...To me every religion, faith, the perception of counnceiosness of entire existance have the same routh, the same background because they are all intertwine and related to each other, escpecally Daoism,Hinduism and Budhism ,and even the monoteistic religions...The main cause of that lays in filosophy and teachings of Panteism "the deity in deity", "smaller cosmos and dimensions in bigger ones", and Duality that all existence is seperate in two opossite forces energies, the yin and yang, itleast in Taoism which is I believe the oldest system of believes in all mankind,because before even the Lao Ce himselfs, thousands and thousands of years in the histor,at the very dorn of humanity, in ice age the stone age, the bronch age etc., people workship the gods and goodesess of day and night, the sun and moon, the light and dark ,avidating and monitouring summer solsticious and winter eqvinocious...and because of that if you see for isteanse in hinduism the relations and interaction between Vishnu and Shiva for example we will see that in the middle and center of everything is Parapajaty or the Brahman, and where that leading is the way of opposite forces Vishnu the god of order and creation, and Shiva god of chaos and destruction and they are both together keep order and balance in the cosmos,and is the same thing like the ying-yang in Chinese filosophy of belifs.We have also in Egiptian"Oziris-Apis" are too the two entitets of the supreme God Ra, Brahman or which is closest to me the Great Dao in Daoism.It doesn't matter if Budha is incarnation of avatar of Vishnu or one way another, what is important is that all of possabilties assembled in one direction is the same duality what we have in Daoism is present even in Egypt,India,Tibet,Sri Lanka,Korea,Japan and so on even in Budhism I must replay this, where Budha does not avoide God he only tells that God is in every living being...infact all over the world and all have the gain general meaning and purpose and that's the most unified religion all in one the greater Universalism in concept of Panteism
I always asked that question. My Hindu friends would say, we know of Buddha . So, this explains a lot. Yes, Buddha didn’t like the cast system which my indian friends talk about being untouchable, but when they come to America all that dogma is gone. Wow, I want to know more. Thank you❤❤❤❤❤
the reason why you got teaching about attachment, seeking the true enlightenment, and Buddha or Hinduism provide his followers bridge or path so you will meet the answer you are seeking in the future world after them
When we talk about ‘Buddhist identity crisis’ - have we lost all understanding of what the Buddha wanted us to understand? Only a mind deeply submerged in political duality ponder upon topics such as originality and appropriation. Understanding the implications of no self will effectively dissolve any quandary about who belongs to who or who owns what, etc. Karma will determine what teacher and tradition we meet in this life. It will provide the trajectory for our spiritual practice in this life. If we give rise to unnecessary doubt please keep those quandaries to yourself and work on their resolution quietly. Don’t give up until Sunyata arise in your mind and all unresolved questions are being dissolved. This world is full of duality and conflict. That is entirely due to the temporary ignorance and delusions of the minds of the beings in this world. Some people like to drag their conflicting attitudes into the world of spiritual practice. Know this to be an obstacle and a poisonous approach to spiritual growth. Such a troubling mind will regress in its spiritual development until it realises its fallacies and repent. Only after that can a progressive spiritual development happen to such a mind. Wash off all of your conflict-driven endeavours and embark upon the path that is pure and non-aggressive. A mind that wants to be right in every argument and believes in its own infallible self cannot approach the potentials of true and undeniable wisdom and insights. To that mind the door to true and pristine wisdom will be shut until the day it understands how completely drenched it has been in its own delusions. Rely on the kind words of your teacher and abandon the mindset of quarrels and politics.
Well, buddha was a hindu. He was also trained by hindu yogis in the earlier part of his life, without which he would not have gone to become enlightened.
@@Mybillboard1 Buddha was a reformer. He was a rebel. He stood up against social unjustice & cruelty towards untouchables & animal sacrifice. He wasn't a bit Hindu in that sense.
@@manifestbliss88 Bullshit. he was a Hindu in all senses. not just Buddha many Hindu Sages, sainsts, sadhus, gurus, etc also stood up against animal sacrifice (non-vegeterienism). there is no evidence of untouchability during Buddhas time.
@@nicholassookdeo9441 There was no 'hindustan' back then. There was only ' Maha Bharat' . 'Hind' 'Hindu' 'Hindustan' are terms coined by the British after they successful split India.
There are more similarities between these 2 faiths at the absolute level than the relative differences. It will not even be seen as a problem in Sanatan Dharma which embraces various different philosophies . Hence it doesn't matter whether Buddha is an Avatar of Vishnu or not to an enlighten Hindu. I see more similarities between the greatest enlighten Rishis and the Buddha or a Mahavir than be disturbed with the differences. The Brahman of Advaita Vedanta is closer to Buddha's no God reference's than to a Personal God like Shiva / Vishnu or the Personal Gods of the Abrahamic faiths.
0:55 so the truth is that Gautam Budha was 28th budha, before that 27 budha were existing stretching till Harappan civilization which was discovered by digging the Buddhist stupa, archeological evidence of these budhas are available and King Asoka also mentioned about earlier Buddha's. Hinduism was not born till this time because Hinduism based on Sanskrit language which was formulated very later from Pali pakit language. Budhism and Asoka use the Pali language Vishnu and other gods of Hinduism are actually followers of Buddha and were Bodhisattva, Later new stories formed around these Bodhisattva and a new religion born called Hinduism today which is around 1000 year old. Linguistic science is best method to find out which religion is old. Buddha never rejected caste system because it was not existing at his time. ruclips.net/video/ntp2mX54Pjw/видео.htmlsi=A03adc_VRDeqoFBy
Buddha is not avatar of vishnu, Bad things for Buddha in Valmiki Ramayana, India,Gitapress gorakhpur-published, Ayodhya kand, Sarg 109, Shloka 34. Just as a thief is punishable, similarly (those opposed to the Vedas) Buddha (Buddha and followers of Buddhism) are also punishable. Tathagata (a particular type of atheist) and atheists (like Charvaka) should also be understood in the same category. Therefore, for the well-being of the people, the king should punish the atheist who can be controlled, just as a thief is punished. However, if the atheist is beyond control, learned Brahmins should never engage with him - not even in conversation. यथा हि चोर: स तथा हि बुद्ध- स्तथागतं नास्तिक मत्र विद्धि | तस्माद्धि यः शक्यतमः प्रजानां स नास्तिके नाभिमुखो बुद्ध स्यात् ||३४|| 'जैसे चोर दंडनीय होता है, उसी प्रकार (वेदविरोधी) बुद्ध (बौद्धमतावलंबी) भी दंडनीय है | तथागत (नास्तिक विशेष) और नास्तिक (चार्वाक्) को भी यहां इसी कोटिमें समझना चहिए | इसलिए प्रजापर अनुग्रह करने के लिए राजाद्वारा जिस नास्तिकको दंड दिलाया जा सके, उसे तो चोर के समान दंड दिलाया ही जाय; परंतु जो वश के बाहर हो, उस नास्तिकके प्रति विद्वान ब्राह्मण कभी उन्मुख न हो - उससे वार्तालापतक न करे || ३४|| (By slightly changing the names of Buddha and stupa)Buddha has been abused and worshipped in many places in their religious texts hence Brahminism aka Hinduism was written much after Buddha. In India, only that which is good in the scriptures is told and taught. No one tells anything bad.Brahmins has also removed many bad verses.They are brainwashing people by showing only one side good things.They don't show their bad side. Sometimes they explain bad by calling it good. such as hitting, beating, cutting,and shex, panchgavya.Meat.
Buddha-tathagatah means so called Buddha in Sanskrit. , It doesn't specifies Gautama the Buddha. There were many buddhas. Ramayana gives astronomical data going back to 14000 years. Hindu Buddha as Avatar of Vishnu is not Siddharth Gautam but was a different Buddha.
The historical Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama, is known by many names and titles across various Buddhist traditions. Here are some of the most important and commonly known names of the Buddha: 1. Siddhartha Gautama (Sanskrit) / Siddhattha Gotama (Pali) This was his birth name, meaning "one who achieves his aim." 2. Gautama Buddha / Gotama Buddha The most common name, signifying that he was the Buddha from the Gautama family. 3. Shakyamuni Buddha (Sanskrit) / Sakyamuni (Pali) "Sage of the Shakyas," referring to his belonging to the Shakya clan. 4. Tathāgata Means "Thus Gone" or "Thus Come," a term the Buddha often used to refer to himself, emphasizing his transcendence beyond worldly conditions. 5. Bhagavān Meaning "The Blessed One" or "Lord," often used as a respectful title. 6. Sugata Meaning "The Well-Gone One," referring to someone who has gone to a good and enlightened state. 7. Sakyasimha Meaning "Lion of the Shakyas," emphasizing his royal heritage and spiritual strength. 8. Arhat While "Arhat" refers generally to someone who has attained enlightenment, it is also used to describe the Buddha as the first fully enlightened one. 9. Jina Meaning "The Conqueror," signifying the Buddha’s victory over ignorance and suffering. 10. Sammasambuddha (Pali) / Sammāsambuddha (Sanskrit) "Fully Self-Enlightened One," distinguishing him from those who achieve enlightenment through the teachings of another Buddha. These names and titles emphasize different aspects of the Buddha's life, qualities, and spiritual achievements. (Many more............etc............Many more)
@@OneAndOnly-S9 I will again emphasize that Buddha-tathagatah is a general term in Sanskrit and not targeted at any single person. It simply means so called Buddha,or false Buddha.
@@चंद्रकांतकुमार-ण2थIt is clearly visible what is true and what is false.Just by looking at that Sanskrit verse it becomes clear that Buddha has been abused.And I just translated it into English(Hindi to English).The person who translated this into Hindi is himself a Brahmin.I have just written it as it is from the book/Granth,And he wrote in brackets who the discussion is going on against, Why were such things written for Buddha,atheist,Charvaka peoples?Was there any problem with those people,Talking about beating and punishing is not appropriate.Why call anyone a thief?Why blame someone like a fool.Why abuse Buddha and the people who follow Buddha without pointing out his mistakes? Anyone who reads Hindi will understand as soon as he sees it that these things are written against Buddha,,,,. Blame Gitapress. If you want to know more dirty things then come to The Realist Azad.
as I know this argument is only inside india , even being sri lankan buddhists, 9 out of 10 sri lankan buddhists doesnt even know indians call buddha as a avatar of vishnu, but all buddhist lankans sharing their merits to many hindu gods including vishnu, ( its called punyaanumodana, which means after we doing some good thing , a part of this good karma can be transfered to our gone relatives and gods, bcz they cant do gain good karma on their own bcz they could be souls and spirits not physical beings ) so i dont thing this argue is in east asia or south east asian buddhist nations, bcz this argue hasnt even reach Sri Lanka the close buddhist nation to india
Buddhism and daoism have done the same. Buddhism was called a subject of daoism, and east asian Buddhism has argued with daoism as being a deviate Buddhism, tried or managed to take over daoist holy places. See also islam and christianity, christianity and the pagina religions. These things happen all the time and are in fact part of religious politics.
Which human in the world can control emotions,spirituality,reality,greed,suffering etc there is no human born in that way ! He is a god ! Doesn’t matter he was avatar of lord vishnu or not ! His teachings are incredible, no human in this world can reach that level! I am a hindu his teachings are right and scientific
Sid G was born a Hindu and as being a prince was educated by the best of the Hindu gurus from his kingdom , this is why he had trouble attaining enlightenment - he was using all the strict ancient practices- and later realized his must follow middle path - which also was part of Hinduism . So just from this small part of his life one can see he was born a Hindu, grew up with Hinduism as the operating system and went his way.
The middle path is unique to Buddhism, it stated that extreme ascetic practices will not enlighten a being. During Buddha's time Hindu monks and jain monks practiced extreme asceticism like fasting for a long time, not bathing etc. which Buddha rejected and he also rejected the Vedic rituals which are materialistic and asked for an animal sacrifice like the asvamedayag. Etc.
“Hindu” never existed during Siddhartha’s time. Don’t be fooled it was always “Buddhism”. Even Africa received and practiced the PATH. A giant Stupa sits in Mahenjodaro for everyone to see. But it was never talked about nor was recognized as one. Siddhartha was not the first nor the last BUDDHA.
@@Nawongyonten-yp4fz , 😂😂I can say the same - Buddhist Propaganda when refuting history . Also go read his death bed discourse and learn . Buddhism didn’t start until hundreds of years Sid G’s death.
Bro I have a suggestion for you ,please study Dr. BR Ambedkar. It will give you the proper Idea what happened to Buddhism and Hinduism. It all started from India so it would be a good decision to study him.
Many Mahayana Buddhists texts claims Vishnu is born from heart of Avalokiteshvara and many dharani like nilakanth dharani which is also a Buddhists text talks about different avatar of Vishnu, In japanese shingon Buddhism and Chinese chan Buddhism talks about list of 12 or 24 devas many of them are Hindu deities and Vedic gods who are considered as the protector of Buddhism and Buddhists texts. I believe both Hinduism and Buddhism are different schools of Indian philosophy they are basically different side of same coin which is sanatan dharm. Hari om tat sat, Nomo Amitabh 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Buddha wasn’t against God but just didn’t emphasize a need for a god to gain enlightenment. Buddha once told a theist that there is no god and an atheist that there is so both could use the knowledge given to help themselves in their striving for truth and enlightenment. Buddha didn’t come to India to prove or disprove God because there were already thousands of avatars, buddhas mission was a more human based one. Every manifestation of God throughout the world had their own missions for their time and place. Got is what God is, within and beyond. You’re all missing the point.
the beilef that Krisna is the personification of God already prevalent much earlier before Buddha's time so it was not because of influence of Buddhism
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I think it is important that we do not forget how Buddhism took over East Asia and South East Asia and erased entire native culture.
In southern India we got evidences for hindu Buddhist battle over religious reasons where Buddhists failed to survive. Their worship places were captured by hindus and converted to hindu temples and trying still to delate any presence of buddhism. If Buddha was an avtar of vishnu these kind of aggressive attitude towards buddhism is unnecessary.
Though highly interesting . Both sides are completely missing the point. One side says the others highest esteemed founder is their god, and you take offense. On behalf of the individual who’s very essence would be to just let it be, and if the Hindus were worried about loosing worshipers just worship like your suppose to and dharma will take care of all. No one can taken change, ruin, or contaminate your faith. It is yours and no one else’s , no matter how similar they look. And we are only responsible for our own , and that’s how said deities would prefer for their followers to act. if they choose to actually follow their teachings that is 🤨
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Brahmins (Brahminism=New name Hinduism,sanatan)
Brahmins used to write anything to rule They are the ones who divided the people of India.And even today the same work is going on in a new way (most are doing the same)Allah Upanishad in the times of Mughals Queen Victoria in religious texts during the British period and also Buddha is considered an incarnation of Vishnu.brahmin is given the status of their new God,Kalki Avatar to destroy Buddhist people😂Buddha has also been abused.I am just telling some truth about history and Words from the scriptures. not any hate.
Brahmin strategy to rule
Brahminism to Hinduism to sanatan to another to another.......
Kalki avtar was written by Brahm...for destruction of Buddhists
In Mughal period- The Allah upnishad, puran etc written by bra.. for rule together.
Nalanda was destroyed by one and burnt by the bra..
Queen Victoria and Buddhaavtar of Vishnu In scripture written by Bra...in British period for rule toget... And To prove that Buddha is a Hindu
India's History
BUDDHA VS BRAHMIN
Budd... and Hind... are very different
But Buddha explain concepts more deeper/well and very much😊
There is another Kalki Avtar of Vishnu who will come to destroy Buddhist and there would be a fight between Kalki and Buddha, thus Kalki will kill the Buddha and massacre all the Buddhist 😂
THE BRAHMINS ARE NOT TRUSTWORTHY, BECAUSE THEY ARE MOTIVATED BY GREED AND PRIDE.
THE CASTE SYSTEM IS NOT NATURAL, BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON CONVENTION AND COERCION."
PRAMāṇAVARTTIKA 2.56-57, TRANSLATED BY RICHARD HAYES
THE DELUSIONAL BRAHMINS THINK OF THEMSELVES TO BE HEIRS OF BRAHMā.
THEY THINK ALL PROPERTY IS THEIRS.
THEY ARE THIEVES WHO STEAL PEOPLE.
VASUBANDHU, ABHIDHARMA KOSHA, 4TH ADHYāYA
THE BRAHMINS ARE NOT SUPERIOR BY BIRTH NOR ARE THE SHUDRAS INFERIOR.
THE WISE ARE SUPERIOR BY WISDOM, AND THE FOOLISH ARE INFERIOR BY FOLLY.
MULAMADHYAMAKAKARIKA 17.6 (TRANSLATED BY JAYL: GARFIELD)
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CASTE AMONG BEINGS.
NOR IS ONE NOBLE OR LOW BECAUSE OF BIRTH.
BUT DEEDS ALONE MAKE ONE NOBLE OR LOW.
THIS IS THE TEACHING OF THE BUDDHAS.
BUDDHGHOSA (VISUDDHIMAGGA XIV. 90)
Well done! This controversy need to be clarified. It goes against the whole Buddhist narrative of Dependent Origination & the natural Law of Kamma.
If a person needs to label themselves and argue with others about their egoic self perceptions, then that's their problem and it will be until they let go of the fear of their ignorance of the divine nature of all things. ♾️🫶🏻🕊️🙏🏻
Don't worship the Buddha, just be the Buddha.
Sounds good, but how do you actively practice such without understanding one first through the application of such logic upon your own consciousness absent of ego's pull of the heart to knowledge.
@@GrantConder Researching is not worshiping
😂😂😂 I like that
I don't care how long its going to take.
Am going somewhere beautiful.
amen🙏
This is MAYA! Neither Gatama Buddha nor Vishnu would want us to worry about such a competition.
@@jascott-tr9ek Brother then why are you typing and eating if everything is Maya, at least respect conventional truth, conventional truth is the path for Ultimate truth, we aren't competing here we are concerned with truth that Buddha was not deluder, nor he was Avtar of vishnu
I did not say everything is Maya!
@Raj-sc8qs You choosing to engage in a philosophical competition which is illusory.
Was my first thought. I mean who cares unless you're into tribal and ethnic rivalry?
There are many paths to the top of the mountain. Focus on oneself and understanding and being kind. Sadly, most adherents of any world religion don't do that.
@@Paramasaugata Why? Learn the culture then ask why? You sound like you have no clue about the culture when you ask, "why are you typing and eating"...seek the knowledge first bro. Conventional truth is the path for ultimate truth? WHAT? who is telling you this? You sound more like an Abrahamic Religion(my way is the only truth everyone else goes to hell) then a seeker of truth. Both this culture never saw it that way.
Siddhartha Gauthama in the beginning had studied under many Hindu Guru before he went on his own to do his own way of meditation. That's where he found enlightenment. By saying he is the avatar of Vishnu, who knows? If the hindu text says do so what's the big deal? The essence of the teachings is more important than arguing over whether the egg or the chicken comes first.
"If the Hindu text says so, do so." ?
What if those texts have been corrupted ?
Do so ? 😂
Hinduism is a syncretic religion ie made up of different ideologies. Thus it Hinduism came after the Buddha.
2500 years ago there was no archeological evidence of Hindu. So how could you say he studied under Hindu ? 😅
He studied under hindu gurus and Jain monks @@jyungsam
You are missing the point of the podcast. The concept of Hinduism is an anathema to Buddhism's 1. Impermanence 2. Soul 3. Rebirth 4. Kamma 5. a supreme creator and most importantly the ability to formulate a code of ethics that is universal and valid to ALL beings regardless of faith/atheist, race, culture or gender/LLBGTQI+. Thus, the lie must be called out before it becomes a belief for future generations.
We are all buddha by nature. Only thing we have to know is the way to realise the ultimate truth.
Listen to this teachings by the new Buddha- "Siri Samanthabadhra" - ruclips.net/video/UslYrMR8QmE/видео.html
Learn his language "Sinhala" for more realization of truth.
Creator of this channel is American Christian forcing secular theory on Buddhism. We Hindus regard Buddha as avatar of Vishnu. There is no conflict.
Matsya - The fish who saved the Vedas and humanity from a great flood.
Kurma - The tortoise who supported Mount Mandara during the churning of the ocean.
Varaha - The boar who rescued Earth from the demon Hiranyaksha.
Narasimha - The half-lion, half-man who destroyed the demon king Hiranyakashipu.
Vamana - The dwarf who subdued the demon king Bali through his three giant steps.
Parashurama - The warrior with an axe, who wiped out corrupt Kshatriyas.
Rama - The prince of Ayodhya, the hero of the Ramayana, who defeated Ravana.
Krishna - The divine statesman and warrior, the central figure in the Mahabharata, and teacher of the Bhagavad Gita.
Sugata Buddha - The enlightened one, distinct from Siddhartha Gautama, often linked to a more mystical or esoteric form of Buddha in certain Hindu traditions.
Kalki - The future warrior who will appear at the end of the Kali Yuga to restore righteousness.
Jai Maha Kaal Hari Har
Ohm Namah Buddhaya
Ohm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya ❤🎉🌙🌸✨❤️☀️💭
Sorry but in puran has 10 names of vishnu avatar where 9th is buddha
Please read first @@Batega_toh_Katega_Hindu_108
@@Batega_toh_Katega_Hindu_108 Who cares what you assume?
Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism these are all just western attempts to distinguish various indian philosophy which they fail at miserably.
Indian dharma isn't as simple as Judaism, Christianity or Islam where they all have their own version of single book that is revealed to them by one true God. These are inherently contradictory, such is not the case with Indian philosophy and Vishnu. In India contradiction can coexist.
India has saints who give diksha to followers and guide them in the path of enlightenment.
Every Avatar of Vishnu bring about reforms in the Dharma being followed within India.
Parshuram being Brahmin took upon the Kshatriya Dharma and killed all the Kshatriyas who were on the path of Adharm. Which is radical as Brahmin are not expected to wage wars. This shows that Varna is not based on birth.
Rama put emphasis on fulfilling promises and being faithful to single wife, even though at that time Kings generally had many wives. This shows radical thought, to reform dharma.
Krishna taught not to be bound by promises, but follow Dharma according to situation, lie if it is for Dharma, fight if it is for dharma, and even plot against your enemies if it is for Dharma.
Do what's best for the society without expecting any gains. Krishna also had many wives. All of these actions somewhat contradict and reform the teaching of previous incarnation.
Then what is the problem if some of us see Buddha as someone who would teach us to follow a path for our own betterment, away from the sufferings of the world, a path that goes through our own self to attain Nirvana.
Western people are quick to associate all Sanatan people to the Occult or Aghora but here they see power struggle and politics when Sanatan puts more emphasis on Ahimsa because of rise of Buddhism.
Well it's just so typical of western people to try and plant seeds of division and separation within two of harmonious Indian cultures.
Sorry but you are cancelled because you're too true. 😂😂😂
Couldn’t agree more
It sounds just like Christianity lol idk how you can honestly believe the east vs west divide
So you don't believe your god or whatever you want to call it, could have spread wisdom through the world? Why just "the east"? You clearly know very little about the Abrahamic religions and their histories
@@parjanyashukla176he's bashing Christianity lol he's at zero risk of being cancelled
I'm a hindu and do follow the teaching of Buddhist as well.
We are one, so kindly stop making such stupid assumption.
Kindly education yourself further.
Don't make Buddhist and Hinduism like the Abraham religion.
Education yourself to forward NOT backwards.....thank you
@@sharanshanthy4462 yup
Thank You for your insight
Sorry basic fantalmental might be same. karma sys etc but ....... Higher wisdom is totally different. Hindulisum focus on eternal life. Budda eternal life is eternal suffering. Buddhist teaching is more consistant with Gnosis (early teaching of Christianity) this material world is evile. They try to escape from this world than more interesting is there villain who old tasamant God is evile they dont want people to escape. Same personality Maya from budishlisin.
@@maungmaung4037well my experience with Buddhism isn't about any of that shit. Rocks are hard and water's wet. Breath into an emerging understanding that you aren't that noise between your ears including your thoughts memories opinions and accomplishments or failures. Practice daily. Welcome your emerging friendliness to oneself and natural dignity and real humor and lightness of being. This is the emerging liberation of the being from the Tyranny of the Ego.
what was so stupid? This was a genuine logical insight of a controversial topic.
If you can't cope with the evidences, just say so
From india, Buddhism got major blows when :
1) pushyamitra shunga killed many buddhist monks and destroyed many monastaries, stupas & viharas
2) adi shankaracharya(vedic brahmin) who killed again many buddhist monks and converted/ usurped many Buddhist monastaries/shrines
3) Major & final blow was the destruction of major Buddhist mahaviharas such as Nalanda, Takshila, Odantapuri, Vikramshila,etc by both turks/persians & vedic brahmins, these mahaviharas carried many knowledge/wisdom, teachings of Buddha and its Dhamma, the Buddhas before Gautama Buddha and many more.
Today Buddhism in india is struggling(less than 1% of the whole population) and is on the verge of extinction. We are sidelined in this hindu vs muslim wars. Hinduism is used as political tool for the appeasement of votes. It is a very sorry state for the Buddhists/Buddhism where Tathagat Buddha got enlightenment.
We need international support to save this beautiful Dhamma.
As a Buddhist, I ever ask myself what if whatever the Buddha teaches are bullshit and untrue? Then I thought for a moment, What he teaches was how to be compassionate and be kind, to be a good human. If Nirvana is bullshit, then so be it.
Thats not unique to Buddism The Ramyan teches the quilties that make good people.
@@VSM101 Ramayana which ramayana there are multiple ramayanas jain ramayan, buddhist ramayana, valmiki ramayana is not the only one, infact he must have plagiarized it from buddhist literature
Isn't bs. Being a good person, living by the Golden Rule, love your neighbor as yourself etc is real, and you will obtain enlightenment, even without a chosen god to worship, I did.... Its the archetype of these gods you are inviting into your life and wishing to become divine/godly as well.
We all mess up in life, its what we do with it that matters. Confession and payments to someone you did not harm, does not absolve you of the karma with that person. Even if they forgive you, or you didn't get caught in this life. My 2cents, do with it as you will. I mean no harm.
@@VSM101ramayan? IT believes in violence. Ram himself killed innocent shudra person. Shame. Left his wife because of doubt.
Answers to complex questions lie in simple observations
1) Is Hindu an old name for a religion? When was this word, first used? This word has become popular in last 200 years. And this name has also expired because practitioners found out, it was cuss word in Middle East and zoroastrions. New name for this religion is Sanatan Dharma.
2) Temples - are there any old Hindu temples? Bodhgaya had become a Hindu temple 200 years ago. What was it, in reality. It was identified thanks to Archelogy of that time and travellers notes. What about other temples? All have controversies with very strong evidence of being Buddhist sites. Idols are fully covered in these temples today, photography is strictly not allowed, area close to idols is restricted and only hindu priests can get close to idols, others are not allowed in centre portion. Is covering these idols, a matter of decency? Even face is fully covered, eyes are painted, nose, head, ears, everything is hidden not just portion below neck or waist. Why r these idols so completely hidden?
3) How many Hindu texts refer to Buddha as an avataar? Just 2 or 3. Many more texts (10's) use cuss words for Buddha and seeing Buddha's face is not at all allowed. People following Buddha are cursed too. Bodhgaya judgement was based on these texts as evidence.
4) Archeological evidence - there are zero archeological evidences of any Hindu texts and idols before 7 century. Most evidences start after 12th century. Oldest Rig Veda manuscript submitted to UNESCO is from 15th Century. In which language are these written, how old are those languages?
5) All older references of Sanskrit are Buddhist Sanskrit(proto Sanskrit), it is heavily influenced by Pali and evidence suggests its derived from Pali Prakrit. Where are older refrences of classical Sanskrit, where is it's evolution?, any texts? It's grammer is written in 17th Century and a person from 17th century is credited for it's grammer.
3) Compassion. Which other avatar of Vishnu is known for compassion? Hindu epics like Mahabharata and Ramayana are filled with blood shed, these are main avatars of Vishnu. This confusion for compassion seems to be coming from Avalokiteshvara as most of his idols are worshipped as Vishnu today.
@@RB-ol1mx What a bunch of lies and misinterpretations!
Let's break it down 👇
1) Sanatan dharma is not a new word!, the term Sanatan Dharma is ancient and has been used in scriptures like the Mahabharata to describe the eternal, universal principles that govern the cosmos. It is not a modern or recent concept, as you claim. The word "Sanatan" means eternal, and "Dharma" refers to righteousness. While "Hindu" might have linguistic roots in other regions, it was never a cuss word.
2) While some regions in India have a historical overlap between Buddhism and Hinduism, temples dedicated to Hindu deities predate many Buddhist sites by centuries!!!. Some well-documented temples, such as the Brihadeeswarar Temple in Tamil Nadu and the Sun Temple in Konark, have no Buddhist origins. The covering of idols in Hindu temples often serves as a symbol of sanctity and reverence, rather than a secretive or controversial act. The restrictions on idol proximity or photography are largely rooted in preserving the sanctity of the deity, which is a practice seen across many cultures and religions.
3)The Buddha is indeed recognized as an avatar of Vishnu in certain Hindu texts, like the Bhagavata Purana, Vishnu Purana, and other Puranas. While some texts criticize the Buddhist philosophy, it's crucial to understand that this is more about philosophical differences than personal attacks on the Buddha. The notion that many texts "curse" Buddha is an overstatement, and it's inaccurate to say that Buddha's face is disallowed in Hinduism. In fact, the Buddha has been respected by many Hindus as a reformer or enlightened being. The Bodhgaya judgment was more about reclaiming a historically significant Buddhist site, not based on curses or derogatory texts.
4) It's incorrect to say there are no archaeological evidences of Hindu texts or idols before the 7th century. For example, the Ashokan edicts (3rd century BCE) and the Heliodorus pillar (2nd century BCE) reference Hindu deities and practices. Many ancient temples and structures, like those found in Mahabalipuram, Ajanta, and Ellora, predate the 7th century and feature idols of Hindu gods. The oldest manuscript of the Rig Veda may date to the 15th century, but the oral tradition of the Vedas is much older, with origins tracing back thousands of years. These were transmitted orally long before being written down. The Rig Veda, for example, is estimated to be over 3000 years old. And Sanskrit is one of the oldest language of the world.
5) Sanskrit predates Pali and is much older, with references going back to Vedic Sanskrit. The Rig Veda, composed in Vedic Sanskrit, is much older than Buddhist texts, which are written in Pali. Pali, in fact, is a later, simplified language derived from Prakrit, not the other way around. The grammar of classical Sanskrit was formalized by Panini in the 5th century BCE, in his work Ashtadhyayi, not the 17th century as you claim!. Panini’s work is one of the earliest known attempts at a formal linguistic analysis and is still considered foundational in linguistics today.
6) It sad that you don't understand Symbolisms. Mahabharata and Ramayana can be seen not as literal violence but as representations of deeper inner conflicts and moral struggles. The war is between ignorance and wisdom, attachment and detachment, ego and the true Self. When Krishna advises Arjuna on the battlefield, it’s symbolic of the inner dialogue between our higher consciousness (Krishna) and our human ego (Arjuna).
Completely false and lies, your buddhist extremist propganda has limit, buddhsim it's mention many hindu gods worshiping or defected by buddha this is a clear case of religious propganda, it's what happened with chirstanity which said jews were croupct and Jesus was true god where as islam said both are their prophets and mahummad is last and true prophet. This is what we see both jains and buddhist have stories about hindu gods which is o
Propganda as to show by buddhism is superior. And there are many Buddha's not just shidratha, he himself says there are many Buddha's before him and in jayakas buddha says in his past life his is ram and visudava.
Buddhsim is nothing but copy of hindu ideals and philosophys and trying to claim they did not. Its bot buddha who said thse nonsense but converted buddhist with full of ego ans attachment which is aganist buddha teachings. Hindusim alone is truth buddhism is falsehood and ruined by ego centric buddhsit.
absolutely correct. the whole hinduism is based on mahayana buddhist sect of buddhism. and even many hindu scholars and pandits also Confessed that all hindu gods are copied from Buddhism. there was no idol worshipping in earlier hinduism so there is no chance of oldest temple of them.
@@sankettt lol buddhist egoistic crying to admit fact that buddhism is nothing but failed offshoot of hindusim.
I am from Nepal and lots of buddha statues were hidden behind Hindu temple which clearly shows that Hindu kings had tried to remove Buddha religion.
Lmfao Buddhism did the same thing along with rip our entire system Dharma karma and paste it into their crummy religion that lacks God. Which makes it false and stupid. I like many practice but only because their extensions from the only true source Satya Sanathana Dharma The True Eternal Law of God
Your not Nepali my guy
Sunnati Shabnam 😂😂
@@VSM101 Sabnam is a lady. Not guy.
Gurungs are Nepalese. Who you trying to fool, fool ?
@@sabnamgurung6226 so you are admitting that Buddha was a God? I thought Buddha was against worshipping him and worshipping a specific God or idols?
PS : vishnus avatar is not Tathagat but rather some different hindu Buddha known as sugata buddha.
So Gautam Buddha is not an avatar of vishnu.
And btw, avatar is not a real thing rather imaginary & mythical
in theravada Buddhism, Bodhisattva could take anywhere from 3 to 22 countless eons (mahāsaṃkhyeya kalpas) to become a Buddha.in that time he is completing "paramitas", reborn again again again, as sometimes reborn as human, reborn as an animal, Reborn as demon, reborn as a god, reborn as a king of hell, etc.... After becoming a Buddha, various knowledges come down to him. One of those knowledges is his ability to see his previous selves. After he became enlightened, when he preached the Dharma to the living beings, he took the events of his previous selves as an example. Therefore, it has been mentioned about his selves. A book has been made, although it is not all about the his every selves, there are details about the 550 his selves, in that book the Lord Buddha is even mentioned in one selve named Rama, I have seen other similar things, I doubt whether Hinduism was created by the inspiration of Buddhism to be heavy on the side of God. I'm still studying about it💚💚💚💚💚
Points to keep in mind- * God is unlikely to tell his/her devotees to worship him/her but to follow a harmonious life as he achieved in his human life form, * Hindu dharma/ Sanatana dharma whatever they call it, does not fit to be a religion because it doesn't match the literal definition of religion, that is a culture/way of life of those people living in that area of the Indian subcontinent, it was not a sudden divine revelation like in the west, first you should understand what is it, * So, whatever any of Hindu/Buddhists believe that doesn't matter because he was born in that culture, raised in that culture but he had a super unique Godly human mind that doesn't get influenced by any culture, with that he reformed most Hindus/non-Hindu traditions inside and outside of India. I see on social medias that All great Western scholars like you only emphasize the Hindu caste system without knowing anything about it, it was a way of life of the distant past, not a belief system or religion so people have the freedom to evolve in a better way without that system, does it have any impact on any sector of their life now or not? did you see other parts of their life? Do you know any Hindu traditions except the caste system? Do you know what are the takes and morale of their books? *At least a few things you have noticed too, most Hindus are vegitarians( to be honest they don't know how to handle vegetables/grains/ fruits and what to eat, that's why they struggle with health issues-_- go and inspire farmers for organic/non-gmo/lectin-free), they don't kill innocent animals for their survivals like westerners slaughter for their daily survival and think plants want to kill them. * They don't discriminate against people for their color/ religion, that's why millions of Mushlims can live there without rioting. they know what free speech is and what are just violent hateful words, * I doubt Hindus claim that Buddhism's founder is their own God, you are interpreting it in the wrong way if that were the case people would have started building temples of Buddha with Vishnu and start worshiping him with Hindu rituals, I doubt you'll find any, claiming Buddha an avatar of Vishnu Doesn't disrespect Buddha in any way or it doesn't hide Hindu dharma's popularity decline in India, you can change your religion but you can't change your thousand years old way of life(that is Sanatana dharma), it is not a belief system/ God's own words to a prophet. * On one side Hindu texts state that he was an avatar of Vishnu(according to you), but you should also remember that it was not prophesied by a prophet of God, it was written by some spiritual sage-like person hundreds of years ago by that time. Idk if he was a person of Buddha's time he can assume Godly wise Buddha as an avatar of Vishnu. I highly doubt that time he thought Buddhism would be a thing in the future, a great religion of millions, and people will get offended by his writings(my condolences), * On the other side Buddhists who get offended for calling Buddha something else or someone else's God, don't you think you are failing to grasp Buddha's teachings when you get offended for those little things? What did you learn from Buddha? To get offended by that? My condolences. I think I am more buddhist than those Buddhists now. Budha's greatness will not be diminished by badmouthing or worshiping him like a God. What are you so afraid of? You are not a Mushlim, use your brain. * The most important point for both sides of the people is- "You don't know and you will never know lol". * There are more colors in the universe, it's not just black and white. * Don't just blindly follow Buddha, be one with Buddha, be Buddha.
The claim that you said in the video that he created a new path as an enlightenment path is wrong. There have been many enlightened being before and after him . There is a saying in india " Trust the words of your guru more than the sprictures itself" , the very concept of religion is abhramic construct. All those who limit their identities by claiming themselve 'hindu' or 'buddhist' are not truly spiritual , even the vedas and upanishads themselves are accumulation of the spiritual teachings of 'rishis' (ancient sages or enlightened beings) where the goal of spiritual endeavour is to recognize the true nature of existense which is identical to the 'self', they are called 'divine relevations' by 'god' because they are realized by the enlightened beings and paased through oral 'guru- shishya(Master -student) tradition' and later they were written by one guy 'Ved Vyasa' , that's where the word vedas come from and the meaing of 'vedas' itself in sanskrit means 'spiritual knowledge' . Many may call it by different names and present it having different natures throughout cultures as 'Brahman'(by hindus) , 'Shunyata' (by buddhists) , ' Tao(or Dao )(by chinese toaists) , or simply 'god' .But the goal in eastern spirituality at the essense is liberation from suffering . The way you reach it may be different but 'Truth' only one at the end.
How can a person who is not interested in God or answering the questions related to god be an Avatar of God himself??😂
Shakyamuni was asked by the Dona the Brahmins when he encountered Shakyamuni by the river Bank.
Read, " Angutara Nikaya" Dona sutta in tripitak.
What does the word "God" mean for Buddha?
Buddha never said such things he said if there is god let him be there don't rely on him what you must rely on is your will God won't need to help you. Please stop spreading hate and be a human :)
What? That is funny but there were 28 buddhas before gautama buddha. You should know that buddha was a title g8ven to the great enlightened sages in the state of ancient bihar. It is not limited to one person. And nope, Buddha doesn't says whatever you are claiming
Parshuram: Actively killing the most corrupt Khsatriyas of that time to bring order
Ram: Killing Ravan the demon king because he crossed his path & abducted Sita
Krishna: Becoming a simple Charioteer & guide to Arjun the Hero of Mahabharata
Buddha: Guiding the simplest of the people to not rely on God & make their own way & attain enlightenment.
Don't you see a pattern here already? A vengeful God like that of the abrahamic one will always try to interfere in people's life to assert his dominance. But the creator who resides in every being as the true divinity himself will only try to reach them to become self reliant on themselves, & this can be noticed throughout Vishnu's successive avatars, Buddha being the most recent of them all. Buddha didn't ask to not believe in God, he simply said not to be bothered by His existence. How does that contradicts him being the avatar of Vishnu?
There were/are many cases where Buddha Statues been given a makeover to fool the naive devotees into thinking its a Hindu God.
The insecurity & jealousy of Hindu priests used to speak volume back in the days.
Muslims openly destroyed Buddha statues but Hindus (not all, some) used to be like the smiling face extending one for a handshake & the other holding a knife behind its back.
Having said this, I harbor no hate towards 'Hinduism'.
There is only 'Dharma' .
Concept of 'religions' came later & it corrupted the spiritual stream of minds.
All these 'isms' were sowed by outsiders to create confusion, division & hatred.
Lol nonsense, infact 1000s of hindu temples in South east asia were converted by jealousy egoistic buddhist monks.
Sorry but what's the proof of what you are claiming?
@@crazy_for_kpop562 Just do a simple google search or youtube search.
To begin, it is not Buddhism; rather, it is a distillation of the teachings of the Buddha dharma, developed and brought forth by Siddhartha Gautama. It's like saying Jesus was a Christian. Siddhartha was part of the Sramana Movement, which happened to revise the path of the enlightened one, the path of the Buddhahood. Dualistic language, which separates the basic teaching from the disemminator's point of view, is often used to explain the problem that comes up when the western mind tries to get in the way of the eastern paths. Firstly, there is nothing novel in this context. Hinduism and Buddhism are formalised concepts that have been imposed upon India's dharmic paths. Siddhartha’s teachings have not surprisingly had a big impact on Shri Shankarchria. Santana Dharma is the compassion of all the dharmas of Bharat.
Hinduism today is a mix of Shaiva (followers of Shiv), Vaishnav(followers of Vishnu) and Sakt(followers of Shakti/Durga). Shaiva was founded by Shankaracharya born in 780 AD, Vaishnava was founded by Ramanuja born in 10th Century). These paths copied Buddhism's Mahayana and Vajrayana and used their characters, stories, words, symbols and that's why things have got very confusing and murkier today. When u look for Hindu symbols - lotus, elephant headed Buddha, Stories of Ram (Dasrat jataka), Krishna/Vasudev(Ghat jataka) you find older evidences of all these in Buddhism. Sanskrit in claimed to be oldest language in the whole world, millions of years old but all evidences of Sanskrit before 11th Century is Proto/Buddhist hybrid Sanskrit. The truth is that today's Sanskrit has got evolved from Buddhist Sanskrit and that's why linguistics had to give a seperate name to Buddhist hybrid Sanskrit because all old texts and evidences are found in this language. Shiv and Vishnu are evolved from Padmapani, Vajrapani, Avalokiteshvara. Their temples have been converted into Shaiva, Vaishnava temples. Bodh gaya was being used as Shaiva temple. In South India, court ordered that a temple was Buddha's and stop Hindu ceremonies there. Oldest Shiva temple in Himachal is visited by both Shaivites and Vajrayana Buddhists, you can see the idol as clearly of Avalokiteshvara. Some things evolve as a parasite over another body and totally consume it to such an extent that it becomes difficult to distinguish between the parasite and the host. These things are only interesting from a History and Archeology point of view. Otherwise it's not even worth paying attention to these things. Just trying to understand the good stuff which Buddha taught is enough for person along with all the modern knowledge and wisdom which we have today
Brother how about that I see there has been all the evidence of existence of Vedas existing way before 1500 bc and purana puranas even before Vedas existed..how about I say the events which occurred in ramayana took place about 5000 bce where budhism was found only at 5bce where even lord Buddha was born in 563bce and ur saying Hinduism was inspired by budhism? Man ur only taking about sect..sanatan dharma as a whole existed way before any religion was ever made..concept of Shiva and Vishnu where long before there was shaivism and Vaishnavism...know history
@@arm3199 what's the evidence of Vedas existing thousands of years ago? What's evidence for ramayan 5000 bce? You are referring for Bharmnical oral claim history from books written by them few hundred years ago. Where is the real Archeological evidence? Valmiki Ramayan has references of using Gun Canons, do u believe it was written in 5000 bce?
@@RB-ol1mx evidence is sutta pitak itself which talks about vedas and early Upanishads multiple times. Btw there is no archeological evidence of Buddha himself too. So should we consider him mythical and buddha is just a state of mind rather than being a person? Anyway sutta pitak itself is a scriptural proof of early existence of vedas and older Upanishads.
@@RB-ol1mxoops after reading your full description I clearly understand how politically misguided you are imao. How about going to Tibet with your navayana proofs so that they start claiming these? How about file a complaint in the court? You can't because all your statements are lie 😂 ( let me tell you a secret. Early buddhism is a upper caste construct. Majority of the students of Buddha and early mahasiddhas belongs to brahmin and kshatriyas family. Search about these students. You will find the truth.)😊
@@southegamer7430 Ved is a pali word. Which Ved does Sutta Pitak talk about ? Rig Veda, Yajur Veda, Sama Veda or Athrav Veda? Hindu Priests just read Ved and get orgasmic they have found proof of their existence. And most importantly why do Hindu Brahmins always goto Buddhist Litreture to find existence of their father? Do they have any proofs of their own? Buddha has more archeological evidences than any other religious figure in the world. Do your research on Archelogy of Buddha's relics - how were these found using Travellers notes from hundreds of years ago. In how many layers was this archeology done before these relics were found? What all was found along with these relics & it was clearly mention that these relics are of Shakaya Muni Buddh. Also look at all old archeological evidences found in India. Apart from Buddha, is there anything else? Stupas of Vaishali, Sarnath, 100's of structures. Even Mathura which is considered the main place of Lord Krishna, just goto the Mueseum there which has all archeological findings from that region.You wont find any Krishna idols, its all filled with Buddha. Unless you open your eyes & see things in a scientific & logical way, you will always be delusional.
controversy?? LMAO those who argue this know nothing of Buddha's or Vishnu's teachings
Actually religion is western concept there is no religion in india buddhism, Hinduism, jainism are terms for traditions +philosophy. These all religions are intertwined and connected.
This channel creator is Christian. He doesn’t know Hinduism and Buddhism.
IMO Vedic Hinduism before Buddhism was like Western Pagan religions before Christianity, the difference is Hinduism adapted to the new ideas and survived alongside Buddhism
Hinduism has survived for so long for this tolerance to change, even when Abrahamic religions were entering India, New Hindu scriptures such as allahupanishad were written to adopt and interpret the new ideas coming to the Subcontinent.
And perhaps there are Vishnu's avatars in South and Centrak America, Mesoootamia, Egypt. There are no limits.
To know whether or not Buddha is an avatar of Wisnu is not important for your spiritual development.
Absolutely correct and support this notion at 101%. The end result will be spiritual development, liberation, nirvana, mukti, moksha, salvation. If Buddhism is a philosophy, then having such identity has no meaning. But if you treat Buddhism as a religion, then YES, you will become another fanatics and thus turns Buddhism into another fanaticism. As far as my knowledge hold, Buddhism is not a religion because it doesn't has another set of beliefs in any God entity. So who cares whether is Gautama was an avatar of Vishnu...??? So what if he is or was? So what if he isn't? What has all these argument got to do with your spiritual development...???
Vishnu is just self evident preserving, sustaining principle of existence even if those periods are different for every other temporary thing. political people are using medias and using art of symbolism literally and turning Hindus and Buddhists against each other 😂
@@Batega_toh_Katega_Hindu_108 Bravo...!!! I'm 101% totally agreed with this observation. Any individual will experience life and explore life in all sort of different ways based on the different era, different dimension of human history. Any well-informed and sensible people will know this. Only those who are paranoid, ignorance, craziness, mentally-illness and insensible people will take this into fanaticism and insanity level just to protect their so-called identity. What we are more interested is to seek clarity and knowingness and inclusiveness; rather than superiority and exclusivity just to protect this entity.
IT IS ASHAME THAT THERE IS COMPETITION IN RELIGION OUT OF CONFUSION; IN KABBALAH IN THE CROWN OF THE TREE OF LIFE THERE IS: KETHER. CHOKMAH AND BINAH, THE SECOND FORCE WHICH IS CHOKMAH IS IN REALITY THE SON OF GOD ALSO CALLED THE CHRIST IN THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION, AVALO KITESVARA IN BUDDISM, VISHNU IN HINDUISM, THE SECOND LOGOS IT IS NOT A PERSONALITY BUT A FORCE THAT MUST BE ENCANATED, SO, VISHNU CANNOT BE IN COMPETITION WITH BUDDHA BECAUSE BUDDHA ENCARNATED THE CHIST, VISHNU, AVALO KITESVARA OR AS IT IS CALLED IN KABBALAH HE ENCARNATED CHOKMAH, SO WE CAN SAFELY SAY THAT BUDDAH SIDARTA WAS AN ENCANATION OF VISHNU, BECAUSE VISHNU IS A FORCE LIKE THE ELECTRICITY, A FORCE THAT SOME GREAT AVATARS HAVE INCARNATHED LIKE: KRISHNA, SIDHARTA SAKIAMUNI, ZOROASTRO, JESUS THE CHIST, AND SO ON. VISHNU INCARNATED IN KHRISNA SAID: "Whenever there is a decline in religious practice, and a predominant rise of irreligion at that time I descend Myself." THE CHRIST OR VISHNU OR WHATEVER HAS BEEN CALLED THROUGH THE AGES IT IS THE SAME FORCE THAT ENCARNATES ON DIFFERENT BODIES TO RENEW THE RELIGION THAT IS BECOMING EXTINCT OR DYING OUT.
Namo Amitabha Buddha.
Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu សាធុ សាធុ សាធុ! សូមឲ្យលោកអ្នករស់នៅបានចម្រើនឡើងតាមការបង្រៀនរបស់ព្រះពុទ្ធ!
3:28 Its mention that a text casually says Buddha is an avthar of Vishnu. Could you please mention the name of the text?
Hindus : Bhagavat purana says Buddha is avatar.
Buddhist : yah, Like we give a damn about bagavat purana & other hindu scriptures. 😂😂😂😂
Buddha taught that the most effective communication came from the heart of a person with a serene and balanced mind. He gave us pathways that led to unconditional love and unconditional compassion. He was the embodiment of the highest virtue we could ever want. He was not concerned with beginnings he was concerned of freedom of ownership and destiny that was inherited but not earned. The matter of he said, they said is a willful distraction. Knowledge cannot be owned. Love is birthed humility is shown understanding is the pathway
First of all you all need to understand what is the real meaning of Sanathana Dharma?..And also Sanathana Dharma is a Suddha paripoorna Dharma to practice in daily basis of this life which leads to understand who is ParaBrahman and Brahman who is Paramatma and Atma. The exact meaning of Sanathana dharma practice is to understand or realize “Atma Jnaana Tattva” philosophy in the aspect of science of self realisation.
This is what happens when you have Half knowledge of Hinduism and Buddhism. Bro Hinsuism also has Atheistic philosophies like Sankhya and Advaita. Please read the Advaita and Sankhya philosophies also read Madukya, Chandogya and Tattirya upanishads. Also read the Nasadiya Suktam from Rig veda. Hinduism was never a religion neither was Buddhism. Buddhism is a path to enlightenment Hinduism are Paths to enlightenment. All these paths were given a tag known as Hinduism. There are multiple ways to enlightenment just like there are multiple ways to the peak of the mountain.
Hi Matt, just look at your opening statement > "What if everything you know about Buddhism and Hinduism is built on a lie?" I don't know why do you consider it as a "LIE"? A lie to me meant "a deviation from the truth". Now comes the interesting part; what's TRUTH? Can you explain what's Truth? Do you know what's Truth? Just because someone experienced life and explore life in a different ways, does that constitute it as a "LIE">>>??? Who set this benchmarking in the first instance...???
And in your narrative, you mentioned about Indian Buddhism scholars (blah...blah...). Who are these damned bloody so-called scholars??? Didn't Gautama warned his disciples/followers that "Whoever comes to the defense of my teachings upon criticism; is not worthy to be my disciples/followers".
Btw (take it as a reminder), controversial debates only happens to monotheistic religion where they have a set-of-beliefs. Whereas for Buddhism and Hinduism, there is no such set-of-beliefs; because their ultimate goal is to attain Nirvana or Moksha/Mukti respectively, which also means Liberation or Freedom in plain meaning OR some terms it as Salvation.
In closing (btw), don't be too attached and paranoid with all these wordings because the TRUTH cannot be expressed in any form of humanly words OR earthly languages. The TRUTH is just simply the truth. It doesn't needs any form of approval &/or acceptance. Because if it is THE TRUTH, then just once is enough. If it's not the truth, no amount of testimony is able to correct it.
It is very sad that Buddhism erase the native cultures wherever it went just like Islamists did. But the good part is that it failed to erase the native culture of India. But hopefully with the modernisation East Asians are also abandoning this missionary ideology which erased their culture.
Au narrateur il y a pas debats,, l'Hinduism est un de plus ancient n'est pas et quel est l'origine de la méditation et yoga! Et puis la destination est le même juste différent chemin
This is a very interesting video indeed. However there are a few points that needed to be better discussed.
For example, the phrase that Buddhism "spread like wildfire" is somewhat questionable, since it was forcefully made into an official religion in Asoka's times, with Inquisition-like persecutions of "pagans" and of "heretics" (even though this does not necessarily reflect the Buddha's teachings). The video also completely overlooks the British colonization and its role on both the standardization of castes and on the construction of moderns' imagery of India as a "savage" place, a derogatory move made by colonialists worldwide to ease/justify their invasion. Finally, the claim that Siddhartha was "merely human" is also not standard for all schools of Buddhism (in many sects he is shown to have magical/miraculous powers, being reincarnation of mystical entities from past/future lives, and so on). This reading that Buddhism's teachings come from a "self-made man" is too Americanized to be taken seriously: practically all Buddhists traditions involve mystical elements without any need to tender to moderns' sensibilities.
As to the main problem itself, that if Buddha is an Avatar of Vishnu, another point needs to be taken seriously: after official patronage and standardized single-religion empires fell out of favour after the Mauryas, Buddhism already lost much of its weight in day to day lives since it was no longer the enforced faith - which gave way to the renaissance of diversity of religious faiths. I believe your final point, that there were mutual influences that retroactively complexified both faiths is spot on - nonetheless, I stand by the points raised here.
Great job! 😁
Forced is not right though, after Ashoka became full Buddhists he did take conversion as path but less violence thats what i heard and dont forget Pushyamitra Sunga made large contribution to kikling of Buddhist later Mughals too and also due to lots of patronage by kings many Buddhists left being bikhu and started opening schools etc and due to core principles like non violence many tend to stay away from conflict so that's how Buddhism decline cus after they left becoming bikhu most common people were left with no knowledge of Buddhism.
while buddhism talks about gods and demons, it also says that we don't need to worship a external god and can be our own god with the power of our minds and emphasizes that gods are also beings just like humans and that too is impermenant. The life of a god shall end too when they have finished their good karma and fall back into the cycle of reincarnation. The core principles and teachings of buddhism are on improving our selves and awakening teh power of our minds through constant meditation and the final goal is enlightenment.
From the circles of propaganda of Bheemte now even this dude is spreading nonsense. It was Buddhism who literally took over native culture of Asia and Southeast Asia erasing the earlier pagan faith.
Many budda's or monks existed before the famous budda.
The real budda was Shakyamuni Buddha, from the shakya clan.
From Afrika. If you look at this topic from an historical perspective you find that many migrations took place and buddism existed way before Sakyamuni was born.
Bhuddism is older than hindoo.😊
Yep, Gautama was the 4th Buddha, so there were others before him.
@@roselavender2222there were 27 buddha 28th Buddha was shakyamuni Buddha
@@Sheshnāga-x1k I read 4 main Buddhas and Kassapa Buddha was the predecessor, which are in current eon. I'm sure there are many others before that as well. Either way, there were many Buddha's before Gautama, but many people forget and think there's only one.
@@roselavender2222 there was Buddha culture .Buddhism came later and people forget other Buddha because shakyamuni buddha was he was genius even they ended up this culture of became Buddha but devdatta and his sangha continued this culture later Mahayana born due to devadatta and his sangha and monks who ignored other Buddha became Theravada I think
@@Sheshnāga-x1k buddhism from asia but is not from india right?
Is still a mystery right?
This stated In the Vedas Buddha is the 9th incarnation of the 11 incarnations really just moods of himself during yugas time and circumstance. Stay Pradyumna Pradyumni that is expansions sons and daughters of him.
There is No mention Of Buddha in Vedas
Bro, it doesn't matter whether Buddha is an avatar of Vishnu or not, we can't prove it. Spirituality is a personal quest; the real truth is your own experience. So, don't spread hatred.
As far as I know, Bharat (India today) is always a secular country. It's a land of seekers, not a land of believers. It doesn't matter if you're Buddhist, Hindu, Jain, Sikh, or even Atheist; all are respected (Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam).
May all beings, everywhere, be free and happy..🙏
I see a lot of hate comments towards Hindus and Hinduism in the comment section here from the so called" Buddhists"! A true Buddhist wouldn't pass such remarks on any other Dharmic traditions. A true buddhist would understand that both traditions are talking about the Same Ultimate truth!
The buddhist teaching is different from other dharmic teachings, it's teach that Buddhist path is the only way to liberation.
@@Ficus-religiosa How many Hindu scriptures have u read?
This is called playing victim card 😂, A true hindu would never call Buddha avtar of vishnu, have you ever read those remarks written against buddhist by hindus, You will never talk about them, you have come here just to play victim card
@@Paramasaugata Cry all you want, , whether it's Buddhism, Jainism or Sikhism all comes under the umbrella of Sanatana Dharma. Each dharmic paths has its own unique way to attain liberation. All of them belongs to this land and will always be the part of Dharma.
@@ParamasaugataShow me something about Buddha written about Buddha in Vedas or Upanishads. Hindu Scholars are free to write their own opinions, it doesn't mean all hindus agrees with them.
No serious practioner of Buddhism would take this for real.
@@holgerdanske3960 lol. B.R. Ambedkar had deeply studied and practiced Buddhism but opposes hindu ideologies.
@@VebvGaikwad
When did he practice "Buddhism" and how exactly?
Exactly, Vishnu is just self evident preserving, sustaining principle of existence even if those periods are different for every other temporary thing. political people are using medias and using art of symbolism literally and turning Hindus and Buddhists against each other
@@VebvGaikwad He opposed fake hindu ideas like we hindus do ourselves all the on social medias. doesn't make us anti-Hindu 😂
Just think here mother is anjana and birth plac is bodh gaya not Lumbini its not the buddha in Buddhism
"The way you incorporate beautiful visuals and calming sounds really creates a peaceful atmosphere. It feels like being part of a meditation session."
In order to understand religion we must study Kabbalah and once we do we will not make the mistake of taking sides because all religions come from the same root but because the Second Logos Reencarnates in an Avatar in different ages and different laguages thus the different names, the Hindu called him Vishnu, the Christians call him Christ but it is the same force for ever and ever. Avatar means messenger of God is an individual prepared through a number of existences to encarnate the Second Logos then he becomes a messenger of God to reinstate Religion to it's original form, relgions faint through time and becomes Dogmatic and through time loses it's core of the doctrine when that happens religions are full of believers and seldom any Initiates, so the mission of an Avatar it is to open the door to the Initiatic path which is the core of every Religion when founded. But please let's not confuse an Avatar with the Second Logos or Aura Mazda or Vishnu, or Christ, or Chokmah , Osiris. While Jesus, Buddah, Fu-Ji, Zoroastro, Samael Aun Weor, Quetzalcoatl, are encarnations of the Christ, therefore Avatars. I hope this comments disipate doubts to some.
If Buddha was an avatar of Vishnu then let all the Hindus convert to Buddhism to prove their point. Why shouldn't the Hindus follow Buddha as they claimed who he was (This does NOT apply vice versa as Buddhism does not accept that theory at all. I don't believe it so I stand rejecting it. You believe it, prove it by your conversion. Don't contradict belief and action or you prove yourself a liar) And not to mention that Buddhism have been purged from India. So they chased their god out of the country? Well done.
Similaries notwithstanding, it is still fundamentally different from the core. Like Roman Catholics and Christians. I might like to see who has the argument to merge these two religions together.
Vishnu is not the main deity in ancient Vedic religion. Vishnu was a Sramana deity who was latter merged in into the Vedic religion. There were many sramana traditions. Really good video and you are right, but you didn't expose Hinduism, and all its propaganda about Buddha fully. The puranic version is the inspiration from Buddhist stories.
What a load of western evangelical abrahamic misinterpretation! This is a very modern controversy created by evangelicals who either knowingly or unknowingly misinterpreted the two Buddhas. They have the same name, but they are distinct entities.
1. The Hindu Buddha has at least two major versions depending on which part of India you're from. But they're both different from Siddhartha Gautama Buddha the founder of Buddhism. Unfortunately, most Hindus don't know their version of Buddha, and fall for this evangelical misinterpretation.
2. Debates and conflicts between Hindus and Buddhists are well documented by both sides as part of their hagiographies of their Teachers/Gurus. Nowhere, at least that I know of, have there been any ancient or medieval debates between Hindus and Buddhists about Buddha being an Avatar or not. Provide Evidence about such debates before colonial times.
3. This idea, that ancient and medieval Hindus and Buddhists debated over the identity of Buddha is a modern concoction which has pervaded every present discussion from literature to small talk. But truth is, they're both different entities.
4. This need not be a reason for controversy, only some corrupt people make it to be. This can actually be the middle ground for mutual respect and admiration between Hindus and Buddhists. Only fickle minded people who hate different communities from coming together and building strong syncretic culture based on mutual respect and acknowledgement will try to create such controversies.
5. No Buddhist temples or places of worship were taken away by Hindus. In fact, so high is the spiritual connect of the people of this land with their nature, that all faiths, Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, etc. were all drawn to the same places. Also, flourishing markets and trade routes were what spread religion back in the day, which is why every religion, no matter where it was born, eventually had to make its way to one the major cities/janapadas of that time.
6. Yes, the Hindu temples appear at the same places after the Decline of Buddhism. But this is not an act of occupation, but an act of co-opting the same spiritual place/pilgrimage. People may have forgotten the history of the Buddhist caves and monasteries, but passers by would've have seen these ruins and interpreted them as once sacred sites and would have started worship in their own way. It is an organic and natural process and not agenda driven. Also, why would the statues and stupas of Buddhism be preserved and Hindu temples and statues be added adjacent to these caves, if they wanted to erase Buddhism? They could have simply demolished the Buddhist temples. But such demolition does not happen, new temples just come up adjacent, because the place/pilgrimage is sacred and worship must continue there.
7. The concept of Avatara in Hinduism is as old as the Vedas themselves. It is not a late creation as it has been said in the video. The epics of Ramayana and Mahabharata or their cognate versions evolve in all the three major religions more or less simultaneously. Concept of Avatar in Hinduism predates Buddhism. So the last part is even more modern rubbish.
I enjoyed listening to your video. Thank you!
This is going to be a life long dialogue with no conclusions! I am a Buddhist married to a Hindu, and we have respect for each other's beliefs & traditions. As a Buddhist my core belief & goal is to lead my life with love & compassion for others, and reduce my cravings & desires which will continue to keep me engaged in the cycle of death & re-birth! 🙏
No buddha wasn't avtar .... Even I don't believe in Avatar and all🙄🙄 foolish
Love your videos though disappointed you have begun to use captions like all the other Buddhism channels. Don't know why as there is an option for them already. A bit to distracting for me as I really enjoyed your ones without. I guess I will have to look elsewhere. All the best! 🙏
First you should educate yourself between caste and Varna. they are different. Then use Varna instead of caste.
The narrator is trying to make an argument as if Indian Buddhist were completely different. Remember but the himself was born a Hindu family and Indian Buddhist were all converts even in ancient time from Hindu backgrounds. Obviously they will have their ancestral cultural practices being part of the new ideology that they chose. That's why you see numerous Pakistani still knowing or without knowing still following many of their ancestral Hindu practices. This is just another Political narrative claim as if Buddhism was not a minority but was some sort of majority and blame the Hindus. But this seems to forget that Buddhist have completely erased From Southeast Asia who were Hindus before and then later on came on Buddhist Completely overtook. A good example is Thailand Vietnam which had major Hindu kingdoms like Champa kingdom which was later on completely overtaken by Buddhist.
No such thing as Hindu during the Great Buddha Awakening. The Knowledge spreads to the East and the West to the North. Matter of fact it was a World Wide Movement. Simply observing and you will find Buddhism everywhere since Ancient times. The term “Hinduism” was born yesterday by imperial Britain. Don’t be a fool.
@@Handle_Edit Bheemta seems to dont know what is sanatan dharma which we call Hinduism today. Weather it is Sanatana Dharma or Vedic Hindusim but Buddhas was born in fifth century and Buddhist missionarie stole all the cultural practices from earlier Vedic Hinduism. Bheemta Seems to don't know that all the earlier archaeological findings were done under British people and other Europeans who had nothing to do with Hindus and later on by the Indian archaeology the survey of India. So an entire Europe Japan India Will not be lying here
@@PK-se2jh wrong
Gaumutra community, 😂 their ancestors were Buddhists. After Aryan invasion Brahmin convert them in Hindu. Read history.
@@PK-se2jhRamta, videshi lutera should know that ASI denied your so called Fictional Gods. So Ramta first show evidence of them. And don't come with Gaumutra. We don't like filthy Gaumutra community.
One way to fight back an opponent is to deny their identity and existence.
The words “Hinduism “ or “Hindu religion” are not belong to Bharat desham. There is only one dharma that is Sanathana Dharma . We are not belong to any religion.We are the always top above all religion which means Sanathana Dharma.
In the Pali cannon it is mentioned in the Venhu and Siva Sutthas from the devatha samyuththa in suththa pitaka, that both Vishnu and Shiva came to Lord Buddha and declared them as Buddhists.
Further more in Srilanka Vishnu is considered as a Bodhisattva who will attain Buddhahood after Maithreya.
It is very much possible that Hindus got this Bodhisattva idea confused and misinterpreted it or simply turned it the other way.
More evidence for this is while Vishnu is worshipped in almost all Theravada Buddhist countries Buddha is not worshipped in India by Hindus. If he was a Vishnu Avatar why no temple erected for this most important avatar of compassion instead of other more warrior like avatars?
Buddhist nun from Srilanka
Its not important if he was an divine avatar or a man. Not even the biggest fan of Buddhism as it removes God from the equation who gives life and everything emantes from. Regardless the 8 fold noble path and dharma and karma are good enough to help people morally and somewhat spiritually. But only meditation and no yoga it can't be a true system of God or the answer. Only Satya Sanathana Dharma has meditation yoga tantra siddhis and much more. Meditation for mastery of the mind yoga for mastery of the body tantra master sexual energy siddhis are yogic superpowers that one can achieve through mastery of the self and attaining samadhi. I pray all souls realize the whole truth of rhe multiverse that is explained in Sanathana Dharma❤
Har har Mahadev ♥️ Hare Buddha ♥️ Hare Adiparashakti Devi ♥️ Hare Krishna ♥️ Hare Brahma ♥️
Hinduism as we know it is a relatively new religion. In the time of Buddha, they did not worship Shiva and Vishnu, but Brahma, and they did not have the concept of an avatar.
@@Gangleri-rq1gp Hinduism, or more accurately Sanatan Dharma, is one of the oldest religious traditions in the world, with roots going back over 3,000 years. It has evolved over millennia, but its core concepts-such as dharma, karma, and moksha-have remained consistent. The idea that "Hinduism" as we know it is "new" likely stems from the modern usage of the term "Hinduism," which gained prominence during the colonial period. However, the traditions, rituals, and philosophies of Sanatan Dharma have existed since the time of the Vedas, which predate Buddhism by centuries. Your claim that people didn’t worship Shiva and Vishnu during the time of the Buddha (circa 5th century BCE) is incorrect. Shiva, Known as Rudra in the Rig Veda (which dates back to 1500-1200 BCE), Shiva’s worship has deep Vedic roots.Vishnu is also mentioned in the Rig Veda, By the time of the Mahabharata (which has early layers composed around 400 BCE or earlier), Vishnu was already recognized as a major deity. The concept of avatars (divine incarnations) is found in pre-Buddhist texts like the Vishnu Purana and the Mahabharata. For example, the story of Vishnu's avatars like Narasimha and Vamana predates the Buddha. The Dashavatara (ten avatars of Vishnu) includes references to avatars that existed long before Buddhism, showing that the idea of divine incarnation was well-established in ancient Indian thought.
True, 'Hindu' is a term not found in the ancient Pali texts of Buddhism, or the ancient Sanskrit texts of the Brahmins or the Vaishnavas, or the Shaivas, or the Yoga texts, or the Tantras.
It seems to be a term imposed by the Persians, from the Persian misprounciation of 'Sindhu', referring to the Sindhu river. It is a very problematic term...
All religions are new, only 2 centuries old at best.
Nobody was speaking in English of French prior to that.
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All categorisation is problematic, when a different language is used from the one which is under study.
This video is incredibly thought-provoking! The exploration of Buddha as an avatar of Vishnu sheds new light on ancient religious debates and really challenges our understanding of both Buddhism and Hinduism.
Nop,it's childish n immature.now a days becoz of many foreigners hab become a great scholar n high practioner of Buddha in India n abroad so nowadays they r trying to claim wat they hab rejected by sword or word..in philosophy or in practice it's totally different on the ground but some. Upper caste Hindu policy maker r trying new things to stay relevant..
Buddha is Avatāra of Bhagvān Viṣṇu is a matter of debate, some Purāṇas consider him some not. But personally I don't consider him as an Avatāra of Bhagvān Viṣṇu.
Buddha was included in Daśavatāra, during late Gupta era and Vardhana era, during this time Buddha was accepted by Hindus and several Hindu gods were included in Mahāyāna Buddhism.
The original Daśavatára(Ten Avatāras of Bhagvān Viṣnu) list
1. Matya
2. Kurma
3. Vārāha
4. Narasiṃha
5. Vāmana
6. Paraśurāma
7. Rāma
8. Balarāma
9. Kṛṣṇa
10. Kalki
Dr. Sunthar Visuvalingam was consulted. He completely agreed that Buddhism began as a separate tradition, but became intertwined with Hinduism at all levels through its very challenge to the latter. After all, what matters for Indian religious history is their dialectical evolution. More broadly the same principle also applies, with appropriate modifications, to the three Abrahamic religions, which could be interpreted globally as competing strands of a single tradition emerging and branching out from a common trunk. Unfortunately, in the process of sensationalizing the issue if the Buddha is an avatāra of Viṣṇu, the narrator has omitted the crucial context of acculturation, which is valid for Buddhism even outside of the Indian subcontinent.
Where does Mahavira sit in the mix?
Visnu Avatars is the belief held by Vaisnavaism, one major school beside Shaivism and Shaktiism. So, yogis who follow Tantra or Shaivism dont take it as their belief. we cannot see it as the beleif of the whole Hindus. Actually Buddha practiced a form of Tantric practice passed down from gurus to disciples among ascetics, he learned it from guru Sanjay, he shared the same guru with Vradaman Mahavir - the last tirthankara (supreme teacher) of Jainism. Buddha and Mahavir were rebelling against Brahmanism especially caste system. In Tantra, it is very common disciples of certain gurus then teach quite differently with the teaching of their gurus, this happen with Buddha also, because Tantra is science of expansion of mind - so it is not as rigid as in dogmatic religion
Lord Buddha was East Indian just like me.
3 schools, Buddha as an avatar to deceive bad people into giving up vedic sacrifices, Buddha as an avatar to guide, and finally Buddha being a common enlightened man... which one is it? I think it is the last option...
Buddha was with us was amongst us and lived on earth like anyone of us , got married and had a child but he renounced everything in search of the truth which included that the creation of the earth and it ‘s living beings was not an act of god but a natural phenomenon as science has proved and being proved as I write and that natural phenomena is changing right in front of our eyes and will continue to change and evolve as Buddha said’all matter is subject to change and nothing is permanent including more Buddha’s will be born and pass away as it has happened 28 times before Gautama Buddha.
Buddha was not born in India but in Nepal .A
sovereign kingdom nation at the foothills of the Himalayas which was not even conquered by the British nor by the Mogul dynasties .
As for Hinduism,It is mythology.
That is my take.
As Buddha said’May all beings be happy”
Milindha
BTW, hinduism is not the oldest religion as ìts claimed, they follow the oldest which is the Sumerian civilization and culture, hindoo priests and bramins used buddist monks to translate sanskrit literature.
Shakyamuni bhudda is not an avatar of vishnu. Vishnu is based on the god of the abyss from sumerian. This claim is just a propaganda to get bhuddists to convert to hindoo.
The real religion is braminism. 😮😊
Here comes An illiterate Who knows Nothing
@@Shiva-nx1tn ohh then it's you who is an ill itterate....with the cows following and no evidence.
@@Shiva-nx1tn no education, and no evidence means no insight.
That's you.
@@SJking-gk4go yeah Just blabber Anything
@@Shiva-nx1tn dim mentality. Go do research, then decide to comment.
I am very glad that you brought this topic. Many Buddhists around the world are unknown about this aggression and the history which occurred in ancient time and until this day and age.
The authority and the ownership on holy Buddhist sites like Bodhgaya and Lumbini in the present day by the Hindu Brahmins is nothing but the truth.
Nope Bhramins dont own land in Bodhgyay and Lumbini
@@VSM101 In bodhgya temple committee there must be 4 hondus and 4 Budhhist and the District magistrate should be a Hondu, can't you see that, this is aggression of Hondus
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Siddhartha Gautama was a Kshatriya. PERIOD!
@@parjanyashukla176 he belonged to kshtriya that doesn't mean he was hondu, there were warrior class in chinese civilization that doesn't mean chinese warrior class were Hondus 😂
I'm a Daoist and it's seems to me that is all connected the Vishnu the Budha and every incarnation of celestial beings or reincarnations of ordinary people which they possesed a superhuman abillitys in order to enlightened, help the mankind to emprove himself,collect ultimate knowlegne and get them to the inner self...To me every religion, faith, the perception of counnceiosness of entire existance have the same routh, the same background because they are all intertwine and related to each other, escpecally Daoism,Hinduism and Budhism ,and even the monoteistic religions...The main cause of that lays in filosophy and teachings of Panteism "the deity in deity", "smaller cosmos and dimensions in bigger ones", and Duality that all existence is seperate in two opossite forces energies, the yin and yang, itleast in Taoism which is I believe the oldest system of believes in all mankind,because before even the Lao Ce himselfs, thousands and thousands of years in the histor,at the very dorn of humanity, in ice age the stone age, the bronch age etc., people workship the gods and goodesess of day and night, the sun and moon, the light and dark ,avidating and monitouring summer solsticious and winter eqvinocious...and because of that if you see for isteanse in hinduism the relations and interaction between Vishnu and Shiva for example we will see that in the middle and center of everything is Parapajaty or the Brahman, and where that leading is the way of opposite forces Vishnu the god of order and creation, and Shiva god of chaos and destruction and they are both together keep order and balance in the cosmos,and is the same thing like the ying-yang in Chinese filosophy of belifs.We have also in Egiptian"Oziris-Apis" are too the two entitets of the supreme God Ra, Brahman or which is closest to me the Great Dao in Daoism.It doesn't matter if Budha is incarnation of avatar of Vishnu or one way another, what is important is that all of possabilties assembled in one direction is the same duality what we have in Daoism is present even in Egypt,India,Tibet,Sri Lanka,Korea,Japan and so on even in Budhism I must replay this, where Budha does not avoide God he only tells that God is in every living being...infact all over the world and all have the gain general meaning and purpose and that's the most unified religion all in one the greater Universalism in concept of Panteism
I always asked that question. My Hindu friends would say, we know of Buddha . So, this explains a lot. Yes, Buddha didn’t like the cast system which my indian friends talk about being untouchable, but when they come to America all that dogma is gone. Wow, I want to know more. Thank you❤❤❤❤❤
Did Buddha speak English?
the reason why you got teaching about attachment, seeking the true enlightenment, and Buddha or Hinduism provide his followers bridge or path so you will meet the answer you are seeking in the future world after them
Not a problem for Buddhists. Vishnu is a divine being acknowledged in scriptures.
When we talk about ‘Buddhist identity crisis’ - have we lost all understanding of what the Buddha wanted us to understand? Only a mind deeply submerged in political duality ponder upon topics such as originality and appropriation. Understanding the implications of no self will effectively dissolve any quandary about who belongs to who or who owns what, etc.
Karma will determine what teacher and tradition we meet in this life. It will provide the trajectory for our spiritual practice in this life. If we give rise to unnecessary doubt please keep those quandaries to yourself and work on their resolution quietly. Don’t give up until Sunyata arise in your mind and all unresolved questions are being dissolved.
This world is full of duality and conflict. That is entirely due to the temporary ignorance and delusions of the minds of the beings in this world. Some people like to drag their conflicting attitudes into the world of spiritual practice. Know this to be an obstacle and a poisonous approach to spiritual growth. Such a troubling mind will regress in its spiritual development until it realises its fallacies and repent. Only after that can a progressive spiritual development happen to such a mind. Wash off all of your conflict-driven endeavours and embark upon the path that is pure and non-aggressive. A mind that wants to be right in every argument and believes in its own infallible self cannot approach the potentials of true and undeniable wisdom and insights. To that mind the door to true and pristine wisdom will be shut until the day it understands how completely drenched it has been in its own delusions. Rely on the kind words of your teacher and abandon the mindset of quarrels and politics.
Although, I am an Indian but didn't know it was such a big issue..
Well, buddha was a hindu. He was also trained by hindu yogis in the earlier part of his life, without which he would not have gone to become enlightened.
@@Mybillboard1 Buddha was a reformer. He was a rebel. He stood up against social unjustice & cruelty towards untouchables & animal sacrifice. He wasn't a bit Hindu in that sense.
@@manifestbliss88 Bullshit. he was a Hindu in all senses. not just Buddha many Hindu Sages, sainsts, sadhus, gurus, etc also stood up against animal sacrifice (non-vegeterienism). there is no evidence of untouchability during Buddhas time.
There was no hinduism back then
There was brahminism. Siddharta rejected the authority of the vedas.
@@Batega_toh_Katega_Hindu_108 Buddha was a Shraman just like Mahavir.
Your attempt to limit Buddha as a 'Hindu' will miserably fail. 😂
@@nicholassookdeo9441 There was no 'hindustan' back then. There was only ' Maha Bharat' . 'Hind' 'Hindu' 'Hindustan' are terms coined by the British after they successful split India.
Worship Buddha , Dhamma , Sangha 🙏🙏🙏
Follow Buddha , Dhamma , Sangha 🙏🙏🙏
There are more similarities between these 2 faiths at the absolute level than the relative differences. It will not even be seen as a problem in Sanatan Dharma which embraces various different philosophies .
Hence it doesn't matter whether Buddha is an Avatar of Vishnu or not to an enlighten Hindu.
I see more similarities between the greatest enlighten Rishis and the Buddha or a Mahavir than be disturbed with the differences.
The Brahman of Advaita Vedanta is closer to Buddha's no God reference's than to a Personal God like Shiva / Vishnu or the Personal Gods of the Abrahamic faiths.
0:55 so the truth is that Gautam Budha was 28th budha, before that 27 budha were existing stretching till Harappan civilization which was discovered by digging the Buddhist stupa, archeological evidence of these budhas are available and King Asoka also mentioned about earlier Buddha's.
Hinduism was not born till this time because Hinduism based on Sanskrit language which was formulated very later from Pali pakit language.
Budhism and Asoka use the Pali language
Vishnu and other gods of Hinduism are actually followers of Buddha and were Bodhisattva,
Later new stories formed around these Bodhisattva and a new religion born called Hinduism today which is around 1000 year old.
Linguistic science is best method to find out which religion is old.
Buddha never rejected caste system because it was not existing at his time.
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Jawaharlal Nehru called Buddha "the greatest Hindu who ever lived." According to Alan Watts, Buddhism is "Hinduism stripped for export."
Buddha is not avatar of vishnu,
Bad things for Buddha in Valmiki Ramayana,
India,Gitapress gorakhpur-published,
Ayodhya kand,
Sarg 109, Shloka 34.
Just as a thief is punishable, similarly (those opposed to the Vedas) Buddha (Buddha and followers of Buddhism) are also punishable. Tathagata (a particular type of atheist) and atheists (like Charvaka) should also be understood in the same category. Therefore, for the well-being of the people, the king should punish the atheist who can be controlled, just as a thief is punished. However, if the atheist is beyond control, learned Brahmins should never engage with him - not even in conversation.
यथा हि चोर: स तथा हि बुद्ध-
स्तथागतं नास्तिक मत्र विद्धि |
तस्माद्धि यः शक्यतमः प्रजानां
स नास्तिके नाभिमुखो बुद्ध स्यात् ||३४||
'जैसे चोर दंडनीय होता है, उसी प्रकार (वेदविरोधी)
बुद्ध (बौद्धमतावलंबी) भी दंडनीय है |
तथागत (नास्तिक विशेष) और नास्तिक (चार्वाक्) को
भी यहां इसी कोटिमें समझना चहिए | इसलिए प्रजापर
अनुग्रह करने के लिए राजाद्वारा जिस नास्तिकको दंड
दिलाया जा सके, उसे तो चोर के समान दंड दिलाया
ही जाय; परंतु जो वश के बाहर हो, उस नास्तिकके
प्रति विद्वान ब्राह्मण कभी उन्मुख न हो - उससे वार्तालापतक
न करे || ३४||
(By slightly changing the names of Buddha and stupa)Buddha has been abused and worshipped in many places in their religious texts
hence Brahminism aka Hinduism was written much after Buddha.
In India, only that which is good in the scriptures is told and taught. No one tells anything bad.Brahmins has also removed many bad verses.They are brainwashing people by showing only one side good things.They don't show their bad side.
Sometimes they explain bad by calling it good. such as hitting, beating, cutting,and shex, panchgavya.Meat.
Buddha-tathagatah means so called Buddha in Sanskrit. , It doesn't specifies Gautama the Buddha. There were many buddhas.
Ramayana gives astronomical data going back to 14000 years. Hindu Buddha as Avatar of Vishnu is not Siddharth Gautam but was a different Buddha.
The historical Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama, is known by many names and titles across various Buddhist traditions. Here are some of the most important and commonly known names of the Buddha:
1. Siddhartha Gautama (Sanskrit) / Siddhattha Gotama (Pali)
This was his birth name, meaning "one who achieves his aim."
2. Gautama Buddha / Gotama Buddha
The most common name, signifying that he was the Buddha from the Gautama family.
3. Shakyamuni Buddha (Sanskrit) / Sakyamuni (Pali)
"Sage of the Shakyas," referring to his belonging to the Shakya clan.
4. Tathāgata
Means "Thus Gone" or "Thus Come," a term the Buddha often used to refer to himself, emphasizing his transcendence beyond worldly conditions.
5. Bhagavān
Meaning "The Blessed One" or "Lord," often used as a respectful title.
6. Sugata
Meaning "The Well-Gone One," referring to someone who has gone to a good and enlightened state.
7. Sakyasimha
Meaning "Lion of the Shakyas," emphasizing his royal heritage and spiritual strength.
8. Arhat
While "Arhat" refers generally to someone who has attained enlightenment, it is also used to describe the Buddha as the first fully enlightened one.
9. Jina
Meaning "The Conqueror," signifying the Buddha’s victory over ignorance and suffering.
10. Sammasambuddha (Pali) / Sammāsambuddha (Sanskrit)
"Fully Self-Enlightened One," distinguishing him from those who achieve enlightenment through the teachings of another Buddha.
These names and titles emphasize different aspects of the Buddha's life, qualities, and spiritual achievements.
(Many more............etc............Many more)
@@OneAndOnly-S9 I will again emphasize that Buddha-tathagatah is a general term in Sanskrit and not targeted at any single person. It simply means so called Buddha,or false Buddha.
@@चंद्रकांतकुमार-ण2थIt is clearly visible what is true and what is false.Just by looking at that Sanskrit verse it becomes clear that Buddha has been abused.And I just translated it into English(Hindi to English).The person who translated this into Hindi is himself a Brahmin.I have just written it as it is from the book/Granth,And he wrote in brackets who the discussion is going on against,
Why were such things written for Buddha,atheist,Charvaka peoples?Was there any problem with those people,Talking about beating and punishing is not appropriate.Why call anyone a thief?Why blame someone like a fool.Why abuse Buddha and the people who follow Buddha without pointing out his mistakes?
Anyone who reads Hindi will understand as soon as he sees it that these things are written against Buddha,,,,.
Blame Gitapress.
If you want to know more dirty things then come to The Realist Azad.
This is what God wanted to happen.
as I know this argument is only inside india , even being sri lankan buddhists, 9 out of 10 sri lankan buddhists doesnt even know indians call buddha as a avatar of vishnu, but all buddhist lankans sharing their merits to many hindu gods including vishnu, ( its called punyaanumodana, which means after we doing some good thing , a part of this good karma can be transfered to our gone relatives and gods, bcz they cant do gain good karma on their own bcz they could be souls and spirits not physical beings )
so i dont thing this argue is in east asia or south east asian buddhist nations, bcz this argue hasnt even reach Sri Lanka the close buddhist nation to india
Buddhism and daoism have done the same. Buddhism was called a subject of daoism, and east asian Buddhism has argued with daoism as being a deviate Buddhism, tried or managed to take over daoist holy places. See also islam and christianity, christianity and the pagina religions. These things happen all the time and are in fact part of religious politics.
Thank you for the powerful wisdom and words. Peace be unto everyone listening 🙏
Which human in the world can control emotions,spirituality,reality,greed,suffering etc there is no human born in that way ! He is a god ! Doesn’t matter he was avatar of lord vishnu or not ! His teachings are incredible, no human in this world can reach that level! I am a hindu his teachings are right and scientific
Steps are important.
Sid G was born a Hindu and as being a prince was educated by the best of the Hindu gurus from his kingdom , this is why he had trouble attaining enlightenment - he was using all the strict ancient practices- and later realized his must follow middle path - which also was part of Hinduism . So just from this small part of his life one can see he was born a Hindu, grew up with Hinduism as the operating system and went his way.
Exactly! But some political nutjobs here have hijacked buddha and his history!
The middle path is unique to Buddhism, it stated that extreme ascetic practices will not enlighten a being. During Buddha's time Hindu monks and jain monks practiced extreme asceticism like fasting for a long time, not bathing etc. which Buddha rejected and he also rejected the Vedic rituals which are materialistic and asked for an animal sacrifice like the asvamedayag. Etc.
“Hindu” never existed during Siddhartha’s time. Don’t be fooled it was always “Buddhism”. Even Africa received and practiced the PATH. A giant Stupa sits in Mahenjodaro for everyone to see. But it was never talked about nor was recognized as one. Siddhartha was not the first nor the last BUDDHA.
😂😂 Hindu propaganda
@@Nawongyonten-yp4fz , 😂😂I can say the same - Buddhist Propaganda when refuting history . Also go read his death bed discourse and learn . Buddhism didn’t start until hundreds of years Sid G’s death.
God Vishnu is the best for the Hinduism .and Buddha teachings are the best for the human being who want to go beyond illusions
Bro I have a suggestion for you ,please study Dr. BR Ambedkar. It will give you the proper Idea what happened to Buddhism and Hinduism. It all started from India so it would be a good decision to study him.
Later on Guru Nanak was also called an avatar of Vishnu, or sometimes added to lineage of Rama.
Many Mahayana Buddhists texts claims Vishnu is born from heart of Avalokiteshvara and many dharani like nilakanth dharani which is also a Buddhists text talks about different avatar of Vishnu, In japanese shingon Buddhism and Chinese chan Buddhism talks about list of 12 or 24 devas many of them are Hindu deities and Vedic gods who are considered as the protector of Buddhism and Buddhists texts. I believe both Hinduism and Buddhism are different schools of Indian philosophy they are basically different side of same coin which is sanatan dharm. Hari om tat sat, Nomo Amitabh 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Buddha wasn’t against God but just didn’t emphasize a need for a god to gain enlightenment. Buddha once told a theist that there is no god and an atheist that there is so both could use the knowledge given to help themselves in their striving for truth and enlightenment. Buddha didn’t come to India to prove or disprove God because there were already thousands of avatars, buddhas mission was a more human based one. Every manifestation of God throughout the world had their own missions for their time and place. Got is what God is, within and beyond.
You’re all missing the point.
the beilef that Krisna is the personification of God already prevalent much earlier before Buddha's time so it was not because of influence of Buddhism
I think it is important that we do not forget how Buddhism took over East Asia and South East Asia and erased entire native culture.
Master Buddha above all ❤😊
May I know about 2013 debate video
In southern India we got evidences for hindu Buddhist battle over religious reasons where Buddhists failed to survive. Their worship places were captured by hindus and converted to hindu temples and trying still to delate any presence of buddhism. If Buddha was an avtar of vishnu these kind of aggressive attitude towards buddhism is unnecessary.
Buddha undermined the entire Hindu caste system. It comes as no surprise to me this controversy. He scared the elite then, and still does.
Though highly interesting . Both sides are completely missing the point. One side says the others highest esteemed founder is their god, and you take offense. On behalf of the individual who’s very essence would be to just let it be, and if the Hindus were worried about loosing worshipers just worship like your suppose to and dharma will take care of all. No one can taken change, ruin, or contaminate your faith. It is yours and no one else’s , no matter how similar they look. And we are only responsible for our own , and that’s how said deities would prefer for their followers to act. if they choose to actually follow their teachings that is 🤨