I really enjoyed this video. I must have missed this console in all of my previous research. It just moved to the top of my list of considerations. Thanks
Great tutorial! That's what I love about these new tech consoles. To record pre and post effects go to monitoring, the performer can perform better and be more focused on that. Then you simply send the daw mix assigned to the same channel strip already tweaked for processing on the input, can be played back from the computer through the same channel strip used for the input on that performance. A great feature of the Midas and X32 consoles! Totally eliminates the need for costly cables, patchbay, external hardware and a seperate mixer for the performer to customize their mix. I haven't yet, but I want to setup the ipad app for seperate monitor mixes for a performer to tweak their own mix and levels, while I focus on the input and recording side of things. That is the greatest turbo charged workflow tool ever! I love the p16 section as well with these units. But I think that's good for a live performance. In our realm of studio recording, live room full band tracking is not as Common as years ago. Mostly tracks are done 1 performer at a time. Maybe bass guitar and drums together is an example of that. But the iPad and even the Android live apps are less costly than the whole P16 monitoring system. Like I said, these consoles are the bees knees with features and the routing and remote control capabilities. I'm an X32 user. Midas is my next investment. These consoles look deceiving in their size and layers of channels lol. If they were to be built like an old-school analog? They'd be at least 8 feet wide by 4 feet depth lol. They do the same exact thing as a fancy big analog console, but with a digital platform and compact size. Great video. I'm all open ears and looking to learn something new everyday. Thanks!!
I've been using the M32C with the Midas DL32 for my bands live gigs and band rehearsals. Does each individual signal split to go to the sound card and where? Post gain on the channel? He speaks of getting a dry unaffected signal to the DAW, just wondering how ,exactly that is achieved.
I’m currently not using outboard gear when mixing, I have external pres, but you can using the inserts on the board. There are 6 with the Aux in and outs and then you can set them up in the board to be inserts.
Hi, I want to set up a M32 in a similar way, could you show me how you have yours routed. Also could you also use the universal Apollo 8p with this as well.
Hi Derek ! What can you say about sound differences between your Apollo and the M32R. Conversion and preamps ? Did you notice any quality difference between the raw tracks ? I have 2 Apollo X8Ps and 2 Octo Satellites and I'm thinking of "downgrading" my setup 'cause I need money to buy other stuff like mics and monitors. Selling the X8P's and keeping only the Satellites to use UAD plugins. Also, I'm often recording live bands and the M32R workflow seems really easier and faster to do this kind of work. I'm recording at 48Khz most of the time. I'm questioning myself about Unison preamps vs M32R preamps. But, if you tell me you didn't notice a big difference, I'm gonna go with a M32R I think. Thanks for your answer.
By default busses are routed to your physical outputs (but you can confirm that) make sure you have bus that you want to use for monitor routed out the appropriate physical output and then that bus is now your monitor send. Do that 3 more times! Make sure it is pre fader (which I think is default on those)
Hello, great video! can you tell me how you routed the mix from your DAW back to the M32R ? I heard you say you can set it to any channel preferred but I am curious if that is done through the "routing" menu on the MIDAS m32r screen or through your DAW? Many thankS!
Hey Derek, Curious when you got the DN9630? There's one other guy on RUclips using an M32 as an Interface/Daw Controller/Mixer combo. A year ago I suggested to him to try that Klark Teknik on an AES50 port rather than USB, freeing up the only card slot for a Waves Card. You, actually GOT the DN9630, and the point I was making. But then you ditched the Waves card for Lightpipe to the UA rig. Why? So here's my real question: Can't you have it all? The M32s have TWO AES50 ports. What if you got another DN9630, and hooked that USB to your Mac Mini, which in turn is connected to your UA gear through Thunderbolt. Then put the Waves card back in. Wouldn't the M32 see (A) AES50-A (48X48) to your PC Pro Tools rig, (B) AES50-B (48X48) to your MacMini Apollo UA Console rig, and (C) the Waves Card in the Card Slot (32X32) to your Waves Soundgrid Server. Plus (D) all the local I/O on the Console. I believe if you then connect the PC, the MacMini, and the Soundgrid to an ethernet switch, which you're likely doing anyways, both the PC and the Mac, as well as the M32 can talk to the Soundgrid, or MultiRack, or whatever their new thing was called. And the Mac and PC through one Audio over IP protocol or another, should be able to communicate directly. So then, your Pro Tools machine and session is mostly a Multitrack Machine, while you offload the DSP to dedicated UA, Waves, and Midas computers. Even better, now with the new firmware in the Midas, you don't have to move things in 8-channel blocks anymore, so it looks like you can route any input to any output, probably with a 40-channel limit, but the Midas then becomes a sort of Digital Patchbay. You have all the parts of an insanely networked digital audio Super-System! Minus one more DN9630. I almost wish I could afford to buy it for you. Then it's just a matter of hooking it all up, and configuring a dozen different gotcha systems. G. (ps. I'm gonna copy paste this to your most recent video on the topic.) Check these out when you get a chance, though I suspect you already have. ruclips.net/video/skAwEJKVLRM/видео.html ruclips.net/video/pJEspV7HQZk/видео.html 1 Year Ago First, this is exactly what I am planning (Still building the room though). THANK YOU for showing all of this and please keep em coming! Second, if you do all of that in the board, how do you recall later if an artist/whoever wants changes? Third, can you automate in the daw and have the board follow, like an SSL? Fourth, and more complex... I assume you're using the USB I/O card. That A) uses the slot and B) shows up as a 32x32 interface. (What latency are you getting?) Now, there are other I/O options to do the same thing all with pros and cons. (Chex out a link at the bottom) Specifically though, if you get the Klark Teknik DN9630 for $300 bucks, it looks like you can use one of the AES50 ports instead, and A) free up that slot, and B) get 48x48 I/O to Pro Tools. If that works, you would be able to ALSO use the 6 AUX channels in the board and therefore keep all 32 on the first 2 layers, and on your 3rd layer instead of having your PT L&R on 31/32 put them on Aux 5/6, AND route 4 more channels from PT for say Aux 1-4. That would give you (by which I mean me) more I/O and be cleaner in terms of workflow / board layers. @t (It does look like you have to use the first bank of 8 [really 6] on the AES 50 inputs for the AUX inputs on the board, which means you'd lose the 1-32 > 1-32 ratio, you'd have to do 1>9 & 32>40, but that's all behind the scenes and in PT you can label them whatever you want) If it works, it also means that I/We can get the Waves Sound Grid card and run that to ANOTHER Mac (I have quite a few old ones floating around) or a Server, and route all 32 channels out, through the Waves DSP, and Back, as inserts into the board channels. I'm thinking SSL, NEVE, API Console emulations, maybe Studer Tape, all running on its own box. (Come to think of it, you could do that with the USB card to another Mac, the same way you currently are, running a separate PT session and Say Console 1, it might be too slow for tracking, but for mixing with proper latency compensation, that's 3 separate DSP points, Daw 1, the M32, and Daw 2/WSG. (And I think I saw an Apollo twin in the background) @t Anyhow, Dope Setup and great video, can't wait for volume 3!
@Jared Rogers. I got your reply in my email, but I can't find you in these threads to reply back. If you see this, try commenting again. Your reply was impressive though. I don't know too many Singers that KNOW ProTools, and could even conceive of putting a system like yours together.
Hello thanks great help! Been using the tascam dm 4800 since it came out into my DAW thought this might be a nice studio upgrade with increased number stereo headphone feeds for bands etc. what i did not see. is there a quick switch between near field and main monitors? and can I route pres to comps to daw pre fader? Last questing, have you had any locking issues with your DAW? thanks, Greg
It is just the 8 faders that act as a controller, you can set up user keys to bank by single channel and/or groups of 8 and the nice thing about that is you still have inputs on one side and control on the other side
Thanx for that great Tutorial! One Qustion: How much is the Daw roundtrip latency of the USB interface when you use it in Logicpro? is the board working on 96 khz meanwhile?
Hello Derek, Thanks for the great vid man & I too have an M32R (Love it!) but with a KT-MADI Card installed as my interface is an RME MADI FX (PCie Card in a Sonnet Ext Thunderbolt Chasis which is connected to a TB port on my Trashcan Mac Pro!) I haven't been able to get the Pro Tools control side working though and figured that maybe it only works with the USB Card so I reinstalled the USB Card and set that up in the Pref's of PTs as a Peripheral etc. When I moved the Faders on the M32r they started jumping up & down erratically which was mirrored in the PTs Mix Window and thats ALL that happened. It proves that there "is" something of a software handshake at least. Have you experienced this and/or maybe know why its happening or what the fix is?
Great video! I understand you have to use the Mackie protocol to make the M32 work like a remote to ProTools, but do you have to make any special setup in Pro Tools itself? Is it enough to connect via USB or do you have connect them via network? And: does this feature work with older versions of PT (Pro Tools 10)? As you've maybye guessed, I can't make it work:). Keep up the good work! /Aztor
can you give any input on the difference between the original version of the m32r and the newer m32r live as have heard some concerns on the new board regarding buttons being less quality and some fader issues. Thanks
just 8 faders for DAW control, and you kind of can do analog inserts with inputs and routing, but not dedicated analog inserts (designed to use onboard processing)
If you are using the M32R the "normal" way, you press fader bank 1-8 and 9-16 at the same time, the faders will give you 1-16. I wonder if it will work this way with a DAW
Que tan recomendable es ésta mezcladora para grabar en estudio y ocuparla como interfaz de grabación? Tiene la suficiente calidad como para tenerla en un estudio pro?
I have this unit, recently purchased. Beautiful piece of gear. Haven't really dad a lot of time to explore it yet. I also have a lot of good outboard gear that I want to use in conjunction with tracking / mixing with the M32R. Having always worked w/o a console and patching directly through my Pres, EQ's and Compressors, what is the easiest way to set up the M32R as a patchbay essentially so I can use both my outboard and the internal F/X for tracking / mixing ?
Derek Senestraro, I have just set up my studio & have the M32R & was wondering if I could email you with a couple questions? I need some help with playback of recorded tracks from my DAW (Cubase 9). I can’t figure out how to playback without changing routing. Anyways, would like to email & chat for a bit if you wouldn’t mind? Thanks!
It looks like a good product to me. It would've been nice to hear you explain the flash drive you had plugged in the center top of the unit. It was flashing.
Great video I'm glad I found it. I have a chance to buy one used for a great price, but I do have some questions. 1) Does this work with any DAW? I have Presonus Studio One 3 Professional. 2.) Can this unit accept analog XLR inputs from an analog tape multi-track for use in mixing down old tape? 3) What is it that one would need a "Digital Snake" for? Thanks in advance!!
Hi, I use the m32r in the venue I work with studio one 3 professional for recordings as well as virtual line -checks and playback, there is no audio problems using the default usb card and I can also control the DAW using the mackie control mode of the m32. There is 16 XLR inputs built in the m32-r so I guess you could use it for mix-down purposes. The digital snake is very useful if you want to get rid of an analog snake (using a single RJ45 to provide both inputs and outputs) or if you want to expand your I/O capability (mixing 32 channels instead of 16 for example) Hope this helps, cheers
@@dereksenestraro Thank You! One more thing concerns me:) Is it good for live band rehersals directly on main outs via DAW with plugins enabled? With lack of 96khz and only 24b/48khz latency won’t be an issue? Have You tried play live vst instruments or guitar with plugins?
Hi Derek, great informative video, many thanks. You had a question about sample rate which you answered as 44.1or 48 KHz. Just to clarify, is that if you’re recording to an SD on the console? Can you get higher rates if recording directly into the DAW. The reason I ask is I’ve seen 192KHz in some of the marketing blurb for the M32R. There seems to be a lot of smoke and mirrors around sample rate with digital consoles, for example A&H advertise their SQ series as 96 KHz but it can only deliver this on 8 tracks as I understand and there are compromises re effects processing. Could you record a live band on 24 tracks into a DAW at 96 KHz?
Nick's Life. aka youtube spelling police, it is a mistake. Shure is the brand, I get it. Should I not make an effort to speak a second language and just say... Bom video mas este gajo quase pela certa que gravou o video com o microfone com a polaridade invertida. What's best for general internet population understanding officer? 😅
What difference would the mic polarity make for the general understanding of the video, or to the sound at all if that one mic is the only signal being recorded? As far as I'm concerned there isn't any other signal summed to that one mic and so the polarity of the mic is irrelevant... Am I missing something here?
The microphone polarity is irrelevant unless it is interfering with another mic nearby. The whole purpose of polarity is to eliminate the interference caused by two mics in close proximity cancelling each other out or causing phasing because of their close proximity to each other. If you are referring to how muddy his mic sounds, that could be caused by the limited frequency response of the mic he is using or the equalization settings he decided to use.
Hey Derek. Thanks for the great video. Just curious as to the options I have to go into to my Mac mini and then Logic Pro x DAW. . . Is this a usb output to the computer? USB 3.0? Just wondering what my actual connection options are. Many thanks > Keith
Derek, When using as a DAW, which button is THIS button that you speak of? In other words, you say to push this button to make it a DAW but I can't tell which button you are talking about. :>)Thanks
I hope you are still answering questions on this video. I have some questions below but I haven't seen a response yet. I have one additional question what type of desk do you have? Rough cost and where did you get it? Thanks
Thanks for the video there seems to be so few comprehensive ones out there. So I'm also curious about the DAW function. is it true you can only access 8 faders of DAW tracks at a time? I would love to use 16 faders coming from the DAW??? Also what are your thoughts about the monitor section in terms of sounds and function. How is the talk back section? Also have you used a external preamp with the M32R could you explain how that works? Sorry for all the questions in advance.
Brent Walker, you can only control 8 faders at once for DAW. As for external pres best would be through Aux inputs as those are just one level inputs. I’ve never used the monitor section as I have a Drawmer monitor controller.
@@dereksenestraro well, in a nutshell, I get either a channel signal with no sound coming through from my tracks in logic, or sound from my tracks with no signal from my channel on the M32. The Midas is not reading my individual tracks in logic. They’re just coming through on stereo tracks, channel 1 & 2. If I try to record a track through the M32, I can’t hear any playback of my existing tracks on Logic. Hope I’m making sense.
Hi, Derek. I really need your help. I have the Midas 32R but I don't understand anything. I need to connect two guitars, three microphones, one bass and one tablet with backing tracks.
@@dereksenestraro Could you explain me from the beginning? for example, it would be nice if you made a video of how to connect the instruments of a band on stage. Don't know how to do it and equalize. Thanks for your reply.
Does it have instrument inputs like focustrite clarett 8 pre has? For guitar purposes. When I want play and record guitars and basses via plugins directly?
You would simply connect the mixer to your computer and assuming you are on a PC, you'd need to install the USB driver (from Midas) and then select that as your audio device inside your DAW software (PT's or Sonar) Let me know if I can be of further help.
Thanks for the question Peter, and yes, the right 8 faders are the control faders. Of course you can jump by banks of 8 to other tracks in the DAW or by single tracks. I have those buttons programmed in the user buttons so it is very simple
I have the same question as Brent Walker regarding DAW control. In addition, you talk about using all physical channels for live mix, but are you sending that mix back to the DAW, or are you sending the final stereo bus to a different device like ADAT, etc.? Great video BTW. I have been looking at this board for some time and your review fills a void in available info, so thank you very much for sharing! Edit - There is definitely some great additional info hidden in the replies below, including the answer to my second question.
Rufus Kay, you can do either, send a stereo mix back to the computer, monitoring off of desk and muting input in DAW, or sometimes I will just record main mix to USB jump drive on console.
@@dereksenestraro Two questions. One is, can you record the console's wet effects to Pro Tools right from the start? I have not found a way to do so. It always records just the dry signal from the console to Pro Tools. Second is, if I send multiple tracks out of Pro Tools to the console, then add effects and mix the tracks on the console. How do I get that mix back into Pro Tools on a stereo print track? I set the the console routing input tab to Play and all the inputs to card inputs. My Card tab outputs are all set to local. I assume I may need to adjust one of these when sending wet mix back to the Pro Tools print track. I do realize that this might be out of the ordinary as most would maybe apply the effects and mix in Pro Tools with plugins. I am trying to learn what I can and cannot do with the console as it is new to me. Thank you. Great video!
@@mikeschreiber9352 yes, create a stereo record track back in Pro tools assign a mix output to USB out on console and then arm that track in Pro tools (and mute it) so you can monitor of the console, but you are recording a stereo track back in PT's. Let me know if you have other questions. Thanks
@@dereksenestraro here is what I tried. In the routing of m32r i Set the card out tab 1-8 to Output 1-8 and then in the Patch Out tab assigned output 1 to main L and output 2 to main L. Then armed the pro tools stereo print track to input 1/2 stereo. That works as long as I remember that I have to use the main fader on the console as well when feeding the stereo mix back to pro tools. Is there a better way to do this? I did try sending the fader channels to mix bus one and two and then map output 1 and 2 to use mix bus one and two but that was a bit weird wjen trying to mix the channel faders and monitor the mix bus 1 and 2. The first method worked but just wondering how else I could achieve it?
I just wanted you personal experience, thoughts, pros and cons between the TF the X32R and maybe the StudioLive series when it comes to f ex workflow, hardware, preferences etc when it comes to recording, mixing live or as DAW-control. They are about the same price point.
Derek Senestraro Yes, it wasn't clear to me if the M32 R, was a "studio" version specifically for DAW or not. There are not a lot of consoles designed to work with DAW. Most are for live, but I like a functional control surface. My Tascam DM 4800 is designed for that, but complicated as hell, and has no scribble strips, which I hate. So, it's come down to Midas M32, or Soundcraft SI impact. I'll "probably" sell the Tascam.
Hey Derek, I was wondering if you mix your session on the console by running the tracks to the board via usb, how do you capture the main LR back on the DAW?
I am looking to set up my M32R in a specific way. I want my computer to be able to be heard from the USB card, I also have an external sampler (Akai MPC) that I want to go in the following two channels. I want to be able to send the audio of any incoming signal of the mixer via faders (stereo pair) to the Akai MPC for sampling without getting a feedback loop. I am using Firmware 4.02 If you could help I would appreciate it Thanks.
Can anyone point me towards an expansive guide for using an m32r and DL32 in a studio setting? I have so many questions and the user manual that comes with it is so brief and vague. Any help would be much appreciated
If anyone has any tips or tricks to get a bit more gain out of a channel whilst recording with an SM7b? I've been thinking about possibly using the make-up gain of the compressors but I can't figure out a way to route it. Another query I have is whether anyone knows how to route the talkback to the outputs of the DL32. The goal is to have computer audio and talkback to be sent through to our live room at the same time without the talkback feeding back in the control room. Probably a lot to ask but grateful to anyone who can help. 🙌
@@AlexMobaraki You assign talkback to a Mix Bus then route that mix bus to the DL32 output that you want it to come out of. By default the snake outputs mirror the board outputs. so if you do mix bus 1 that should be physical out 1 as main outs are default 15/16
I've been using the M32C with the Midas DL32 for my bands live gigs and band rehearsals. Does each individual signal split to go to the sound card and where? Post gain on the channel? He speaks of getting a dry unaffected signal to the DAW, just wondering how ,exactly that is achieved.
I bought the device on instinct. I love the 'old' maschine controller. Not from the audio world, but after 4 days and 15 mins. trying, no sound. Haha. ;-)
@@dereksenestraro I use Ableton Live 10. I will stick to the Zoom LiveTrak 12 for now. Am a singer and guitar player too, want to do stand up comedy and write books you know. ;-)
Can you print the FXs from the Midas to PT? Meaning if I use the Fairchild comp in the Midas as say the real outboard gear while recording to PT will it print that compressor to the recorded track or will it be recorded dry ?
I have the exact same model.input 2 mics and 1 phone as playback for minus one. im sending main output to my mac for recording. I have 2 ps15 speakers to use as monitor. during recording, I prefer only to listen to playback and I dont want to put on headphone.could you show me how can i have the option of 1)playback only 2)vocals only 3)playback and vocal using the speakers. thanks
Hey Derek, great video! Quick question... I'm buying this board soon. I have some nice external pres that i like the color of. How would I insert these pres into this board and bypass the Midas Pre? I don't see direct inputs on this board like analog boards.
Do you know how to assign a individual channel to a mute group? I know u can do it from the app for ipad or PC and on the M32 but I'm wondering if u know a way to so it in the M32R
David Arosemena Try from the home screen. Page 2 on the home screen under the knobs should have mute groups. Well if it’s anything like the X32 producer. Hope that helps.
The difference is the preamps and faders and of course the physical board itself. Probably wouldn’t hear much difference in how I’m using it in this video as I tracked it somewhere else. So didn’t use the Midas pres at all.
I guess you could use a external audio interface but you’d have told get the audio in and out, which could be challenging. Or you could get a card for it that gets you in and out digitally, Dante, Waves, ADAT.
I've been using the M32C with the Midas DL32 for my bands live gigs and band rehearsals. Does each individual signal split to go to the sound card and where? Post gain on the channel? He speaks of getting a dry unaffected signal to the DAW, just wondering how ,exactly that is achieved.
@@dereksenestraro Ok, thank you! I was wondering if that was the default when you connect the sound card of the Midas M32C to your Mac and DAW. As I don't have the physical knobs and faders; I have to use the I pad and/or my Raven touch screen to navigate my way around the M32 edit app. Haven't seen to many M32C tutorials that dive into the signal routing strategies. So I have to watch the M32 or M32R's and see if I can learn that way. I'd like to see just how to tap the signals in the software for recording or splitting the signal for bussing within the software. Thanks for replying! i'm looking forward to using my M32C as my recording console like you are using the M32R as your console.
Why is transport control 3/4 of the way up the board ? And In the centre - first thing you did was use mouse to press play (did anyone else notice this ? ) I think this shows daw implementation could have been better here ....
Derek Senestraro I’m in the middle of upgrading.... I want a desk that can be used with a DAW (pro tools preferably) although I have been considering including Cubase as I have 9.5 AI (upgrade/cross grade makes the Cubase Pro reasonably cheap) so Cubase a fall back to getting Pro Tools to function on some thing, your video looks extremely promising. I have been looking at PreSonus’s StudioLive series 3 SL32 but there appear to be issues with PT (not really sold on Studio One as a DAW). I am currently considering a Yamaha TF5 which appears to support Cubase fairly well and in turn function with Pro Tools.... seen a lot of talk but no one online I can find actually using it with Pro Tools. It seems the makers of the M32 don’t officially support Pro Tools especially on mOS 10.13.6 but there is some chatter on the user forum and the only complaint I can see is being restricted to the 8 fader..... yet you seem to have your whole board functioning?
You can actually record 32 tracks at once via the built-in usb card. You select which sources you want and send their outputs through the usb to your DAW.
Once you send the outputs back to the DAW and start mixing, adding automation, etc., are all these actions then tied to the board / channel via the DAW? Meaning, I automate a volume change on channel 1 in the DAW, during playback, is that automation control reflected on the board? Thanks!
Hi i would buy a m32 and i want to know if with the m32, i can make the same thing then you with your 32r for recording and control my daw with pro tools hd 11, like you make with fader on left for console and on right for control my pro tools in the same time. Can you make things with your 32r than i can’t not make with the m32 that i want buy. Thank you
@ Jared Rogers. I got your reply in my email, but I can't find you in these threads to reply back. If you see this, try commenting again. Your reply was impressive though. I don't know too many Singers that KNOW ProTools, and could even conceive of putting a system like yours together.
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Hi a great video, i want to buy a Midas M32R and use it as an interface for Cubase 10 and ProTools, but need somebody to help me explaining how to setup M32R and DAW, or even has a scene for M32R. I will paid for all thats no problem when you can explain step by step how to setup or send me a scene for M32R
Sorry it has been a while since you posted, I actually got rid of my M32R and I'm using Wing now. But for setup, really just making sure you have the driver installed in your computer, (and of course it connected via USB) and selecting that as your audio device in your DAW. Then you assign inputs in the DAW and setup your outputs in the Mixer of every channel to the Card outs so that way they go out USB. Email me if you have other questions. Thanks, Derek
Why every compani said their console have 40 input???in fact it just have 16 input LOCAL...like x32,m32r You can get 40 input unless you add extra money for digital snake
the faders are made by Alps not Midas and the control surface DAW control is not unique the Behringer and others do the same thing. Yes the pre amps are original Midas unlike the x32 which are designed by Midas. Why do they call it live? From what I can find out as with the standard out the box x32 can only record stereo as a stand alone device, you need to connect a computer to the console for multi track live/mobile recordings. The x32 has a SD add on card available that can record the multi track inputs what about the Midas? or can it also use the Behringer x32 SD card? It uses the same X32 software LIMITED to 48kHZ sample rate so the only advantage over the x32 is the upgraded faders and better pre amps?? erm not quite true, the snake for the x32 has Midas pre amps Behringer expected users to buy it and not use the on board amps, so in the end what you save buying the x32 you can spend on the snake which most people would do anyway and you get the same console features as the M32, excluding the alps faders... No brainer, the X32 wins
Thanks for the intput, the current M32 is called LIVE and has the SD card installed. The M32 is WAY different physically, much more robust and heavy duty. Also, the X32 stage boxes S16 and S32 have Midas designed pres, same as the X32, the Midas stage boxes are the DL16 and DL32 with Midas preamps. thanks for checking out my video and hope you are making great music!
Plus banking , your arm ends up covering the scribble strips when you bank - this makes no sense ?! I think we are close to a great all in one solution - but not there yet ... maybe 2 year ... my money is on Universal Audio
Hey Luis thanks for watching, and it is always a challenge to capture the live audio from my mic well. I assume that is what you are referring to. I'm not using that mic any more, so hopefully future videos will be better. Sorry it was annoying to you!
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I really enjoyed this video. I must have missed this console in all of my previous research. It just moved to the top of my list of considerations. Thanks
Thank you for taking my call today at Sweetwater. I think I am going to buy the board.
Great tutorial! That's what I love about these new tech consoles. To record pre and post effects go to monitoring, the performer can perform better and be more focused on that. Then you simply send the daw mix assigned to the same channel strip already tweaked for processing on the input, can be played back from the computer through the same channel strip used for the input on that performance. A great feature of the Midas and X32 consoles! Totally eliminates the need for costly cables, patchbay, external hardware and a seperate mixer for the performer to customize their mix. I haven't yet, but I want to setup the ipad app for seperate monitor mixes for a performer to tweak their own mix and levels, while I focus on the input and recording side of things. That is the greatest turbo charged workflow tool ever! I love the p16 section as well with these units. But I think that's good for a live performance. In our realm of studio recording, live room full band tracking is not as Common as years ago. Mostly tracks are done 1 performer at a time. Maybe bass guitar and drums together is an example of that. But the iPad and even the Android live apps are less costly than the whole P16 monitoring system. Like I said, these consoles are the bees knees with features and the routing and remote control capabilities. I'm an X32 user. Midas is my next investment. These consoles look deceiving in their size and layers of channels lol. If they were to be built like an old-school analog? They'd be at least 8 feet wide by 4 feet depth lol. They do the same exact thing as a fancy big analog console, but with a digital platform and compact size. Great video. I'm all open ears and looking to learn something new everyday. Thanks!!
I've been using the M32C with the Midas DL32 for my bands live gigs and band rehearsals. Does each individual signal split to go to the sound card and where? Post gain on the channel? He speaks of getting a dry unaffected signal to the DAW, just wondering how ,exactly that is achieved.
I still have my M32/32 2024, beautiful board. Highly underrated imo.
Would you mind doing a setup video on how exactly you're routing protools and the board to work together the way you do.
Great video - thanks for pulling it together and putting it up! Great idea on the assign setup.
Could you explain wiring multiple outboard gear pierces to the board?
This was well said and helpful! Thanks!
I’m currently not using outboard gear when mixing, I have external pres, but you can using the inserts on the board. There are 6 with the Aux in and outs and then you can set them up in the board to be inserts.
Hi, I want to set up a M32 in a similar way, could you show me how you have yours routed. Also could you also use the universal Apollo 8p with this as well.
Hi Derek !
What can you say about sound differences between your Apollo and the M32R.
Conversion and preamps ?
Did you notice any quality difference between the raw tracks ?
I have 2 Apollo X8Ps and 2 Octo Satellites and I'm thinking of "downgrading" my setup 'cause I need money to buy other stuff like mics and monitors. Selling the X8P's and keeping only the Satellites to use UAD plugins.
Also, I'm often recording live bands and the M32R workflow seems really easier and faster to do this kind of work.
I'm recording at 48Khz most of the time.
I'm questioning myself about Unison preamps vs M32R preamps.
But, if you tell me you didn't notice a big difference, I'm gonna go with a M32R I think.
Thanks for your answer.
Hi Derek, could you explain how to route 4 floor monitors out from this M32 onto a stage for the singers
Please help me out
By default busses are routed to your physical outputs (but you can confirm that) make sure you have bus that you want to use for monitor routed out the appropriate physical output and then that bus is now your monitor send. Do that 3 more times! Make sure it is pre fader (which I think is default on those)
Hello, great video! can you tell me how you routed the mix from your DAW back to the M32R ? I heard you say you can set it to any channel preferred but I am curious if that is done through the "routing" menu on the MIDAS m32r screen or through your DAW? Many thankS!
Yeah, it is done through both. Set inputs to USB(Card) and outputs in DAW to the interface, individual channels. I hope that is helpful
@@dereksenestraro thats great. I appreciate that.
Hey Derek, Curious when you got the DN9630?
There's one other guy on RUclips using an M32 as an Interface/Daw Controller/Mixer combo.
A year ago I suggested to him to try that Klark Teknik on an AES50 port rather than USB, freeing up the only card slot for a Waves Card.
You, actually GOT the DN9630, and the point I was making.
But then you ditched the Waves card for Lightpipe to the UA rig.
Why?
So here's my real question:
Can't you have it all?
The M32s have TWO AES50 ports.
What if you got another DN9630, and hooked that USB to your Mac Mini, which in turn is connected to your UA gear through Thunderbolt.
Then put the Waves card back in.
Wouldn't the M32 see (A) AES50-A (48X48) to your PC Pro Tools rig, (B) AES50-B (48X48) to your MacMini Apollo UA Console rig, and (C) the Waves Card in the Card Slot (32X32) to your Waves Soundgrid Server. Plus (D) all the local I/O on the Console.
I believe if you then connect the PC, the MacMini, and the Soundgrid to an ethernet switch, which you're likely doing anyways, both the PC and the Mac, as well as the M32 can talk to the Soundgrid, or MultiRack, or whatever their new thing was called.
And the Mac and PC through one Audio over IP protocol or another, should be able to communicate directly.
So then, your Pro Tools machine and session is mostly a Multitrack Machine, while you offload the DSP to dedicated UA, Waves, and Midas computers.
Even better, now with the new firmware in the Midas, you don't have to move things in 8-channel blocks anymore, so it looks like you can route any input to any output, probably with a 40-channel limit, but the Midas then becomes a sort of Digital Patchbay.
You have all the parts of an insanely networked digital audio Super-System! Minus one more DN9630.
I almost wish I could afford to buy it for you.
Then it's just a matter of hooking it all up, and configuring a dozen different gotcha systems.
G.
(ps. I'm gonna copy paste this to your most recent video on the topic.)
Check these out when you get a chance, though I suspect you already have.
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First, this is exactly what I am planning (Still building the room though). THANK YOU for showing all of this and please keep em coming!
Second, if you do all of that in the board, how do you recall later if an artist/whoever wants changes?
Third, can you automate in the daw and have the board follow, like an SSL?
Fourth, and more complex...
I assume you're using the USB I/O card. That A) uses the slot and B) shows up as a 32x32 interface. (What latency are you getting?)
Now, there are other I/O options to do the same thing all with pros and cons. (Chex out a link at the bottom)
Specifically though, if you get the Klark Teknik DN9630 for $300 bucks, it looks like you can use one of the AES50 ports instead, and A) free up that slot, and B) get 48x48 I/O to Pro Tools.
If that works, you would be able to ALSO use the 6 AUX channels in the board and therefore keep all 32 on the first 2 layers, and on your 3rd layer instead of having your PT L&R on 31/32 put them on Aux 5/6, AND route 4 more channels from PT for say Aux 1-4. That would give you (by which I mean me) more I/O and be cleaner in terms of workflow / board layers.
@t
(It does look like you have to use the first bank of 8 [really 6] on the AES 50 inputs for the AUX inputs on the board, which means you'd lose the 1-32 > 1-32 ratio, you'd have to do 1>9 & 32>40, but that's all behind the scenes and in PT you can label them whatever you want)
If it works, it also means that I/We can get the Waves Sound Grid card and run that to ANOTHER Mac (I have quite a few old ones floating around) or a Server, and route all 32 channels out, through the Waves DSP, and Back, as inserts into the board channels. I'm thinking SSL, NEVE, API Console emulations, maybe Studer Tape, all running on its own box. (Come to think of it, you could do that with the USB card to another Mac, the same way you currently are, running a separate PT session and Say Console 1, it might be too slow for tracking, but for mixing with proper latency compensation, that's 3 separate DSP points, Daw 1, the M32, and Daw 2/WSG. (And I think I saw an Apollo twin in the background)
@t
Anyhow, Dope Setup and great video, can't wait for volume 3!
@Jared Rogers. I got your reply in my email, but I can't find you in these threads to reply back. If you see this, try commenting again. Your reply was impressive though. I don't know too many Singers that KNOW ProTools, and could even conceive of putting a system like yours together.
Hey Derek! Great Tutorial! Would you prefer being this console instead of the A&H SQ5?
Hello thanks great help! Been using the tascam dm 4800 since it came out into my DAW thought this might be a nice studio upgrade with increased number stereo headphone feeds for bands etc. what i did not see. is there a quick switch between near field and main monitors? and can I route pres to comps to daw pre fader? Last questing, have you had any locking issues with your DAW? thanks, Greg
Does it work with Ableton as a control surface
It would in Mackie Control mode, basic stuff like faders solo and mute
Nice Introduction. Is it possible to use the Panorama from ProTools for each channel as a remote on the console like the faders for volume?
Great job! What DAWs will this work with? Thanks.
thanks for the video. Can you tell me if you can get all the faders operating protools? not just the 8 on one side. thanks
It is just the 8 faders that act as a controller, you can set up user keys to bank by single channel and/or groups of 8 and the nice thing about that is you still have inputs on one side and control on the other side
Thanx for that great Tutorial! One Qustion: How much is the Daw roundtrip latency of the USB interface when you use it in Logicpro? is the board working on 96 khz meanwhile?
Sample rate is 44.1 or 48. I don’t know what the latency is, but as I monitor direct inputs on the board it isn’t relevant to me.
Hello Derek, Thanks for the great vid man & I too have an M32R (Love it!) but with a KT-MADI Card installed as my interface is an RME MADI FX (PCie Card in a Sonnet Ext Thunderbolt Chasis which is connected to a TB port on my Trashcan Mac Pro!) I haven't been able to get the Pro Tools control side working though and figured that maybe it only works with the USB Card so I reinstalled the USB Card and set that up in the Pref's of PTs as a Peripheral etc. When I moved the Faders on the M32r they started jumping up & down erratically which was mirrored in the PTs Mix Window and thats ALL that happened. It proves that there "is" something of a software handshake at least. Have you experienced this and/or maybe know why its happening or what the fix is?
Great video!
I understand you have to use the Mackie protocol to make the M32 work like a remote to ProTools, but do you have to make any special setup in Pro Tools itself?
Is it enough to connect via USB or do you have connect them via network?
And: does this feature work with older versions of PT (Pro Tools 10)?
As you've maybye guessed, I can't make it work:).
Keep up the good work!
/Aztor
can you give any input on the difference between the original version of the m32r and the newer m32r live as have heard some concerns on the new board regarding buttons being less quality and some fader issues. Thanks
My understanding is no difference other than the live SD card installed
Hi, i have a daubt, why iluminate Gate led on Bus Master while select the Chanel selection buttons
can you have all faders for daw control, or only eight as you have shown? does it have analogue inserts on channel strips?
just 8 faders for DAW control, and you kind of can do analog inserts with inputs and routing, but not dedicated analog inserts (designed to use onboard processing)
If you are using the M32R the "normal" way, you press fader bank 1-8 and 9-16 at the same time, the faders will give you 1-16. I wonder if it will work this way with a DAW
Que tan recomendable es ésta mezcladora para grabar en estudio y ocuparla como interfaz de grabación? Tiene la suficiente calidad como para tenerla en un estudio pro?
I have this unit, recently purchased. Beautiful piece of gear. Haven't really dad a lot of time to explore it yet. I also have a lot of good outboard gear that I want to use in conjunction with tracking / mixing with the M32R. Having always worked w/o a console and patching directly through my Pres, EQ's and Compressors, what is the easiest way to set up the M32R as a patchbay essentially so I can use both my outboard and the internal F/X for tracking / mixing ?
You can use the outputs and inputs, the 8 line level would be best, and assign them for that use. You can setup inserts on the board
Derek Senestraro, I have just set up my studio & have the M32R & was wondering if I could email you with a couple questions? I need some help with playback of recorded tracks from my DAW (Cubase 9). I can’t figure out how to playback without changing routing. Anyways, would like to email & chat for a bit if you wouldn’t mind? Thanks!
Derek Senestraro my email is bigwheelrecording@gmail.com
I also use my setup for live shows, I believe that is where this console shines brightest to be honest.
It looks like a good product to me. It would've been nice to hear you explain the flash drive you had plugged in the center top of the unit. It was flashing.
That is where I was recording the stereo mix of the tracks on the mixer and my headset mic
Will it operate with the reaper DAW?
Dereck the CD recorder is connected to the aux out red and white ports
Great video I'm glad I found it. I have a chance to buy one used for a great price, but I do have some questions. 1) Does this work with any DAW? I have Presonus Studio One 3 Professional. 2.) Can this unit accept analog XLR inputs from an analog tape multi-track for use in mixing down old tape? 3) What is it that one would need a "Digital Snake" for? Thanks in advance!!
Hi, I use the m32r in the venue I work with studio one 3 professional for recordings as well as virtual line -checks and playback, there is no audio problems using the default usb card and I can also control the DAW using the mackie control mode of the m32. There is 16 XLR inputs built in the m32-r so I guess you could use it for mix-down purposes. The digital snake is very useful if you want to get rid of an analog snake (using a single RJ45 to provide both inputs and outputs) or if you want to expand your I/O capability (mixing 32 channels instead of 16 for example)
Hope this helps, cheers
Thanks. Very useful info!
Thanks for the great video. I ordered an M32 and am looking for a studio desk. Yours looks nice. What is the brand?
Its made by Midas who are owned by the Music Group, a Holding Company which includes Behringer, TC Electronics and a few others
@@uselessoldman7964 he’s asking what company makes the physical desk, no the mixing desk.
@@pete3816 oops silly me, apologies
Is this m32r or live version. What could You tell about these two? Where are the difference? Am I missing something big getting „non live” version?
Live version adds XLIVE card, so you can record to SD card, that is the only difference
@@dereksenestraro Thank You! One more thing concerns me:) Is it good for live band rehersals directly on main outs via DAW with plugins enabled? With lack of 96khz and only 24b/48khz latency won’t be an issue? Have You tried play live vst instruments or guitar with plugins?
Hi Derek, great informative video, many thanks. You had a question about sample rate which you answered as 44.1or 48 KHz. Just to clarify, is that if you’re recording to an SD on the console? Can you get higher rates if recording directly into the DAW. The reason I ask is I’ve seen 192KHz in some of the marketing blurb for the M32R. There seems to be a lot of smoke and mirrors around sample rate with digital consoles, for example A&H advertise their SQ series as 96 KHz but it can only deliver this on 8 tracks as I understand and there are compromises re effects processing. Could you record a live band on 24 tracks into a DAW at 96 KHz?
No, the M32 only runs at 44.1 or 48, 96 isn't an option internal or via USB.
Nice video but I am almost shure your mic polarity was inverted for this
Is this a pun or can you not spell sure?
Nick's Life. aka youtube spelling police, it is a mistake. Shure is the brand, I get it. Should I not make an effort to speak a second language and just say... Bom video mas este gajo quase pela certa que gravou o video com o microfone com a polaridade invertida. What's best for general internet population understanding officer? 😅
What difference would the mic polarity make for the general understanding of the video, or to the sound at all if that one mic is the only signal being recorded? As far as I'm concerned there isn't any other signal summed to that one mic and so the polarity of the mic is irrelevant... Am I missing something here?
The microphone polarity is irrelevant unless it is interfering with another mic nearby. The whole purpose of polarity is to eliminate the interference caused by two mics in close proximity cancelling each other out or causing phasing because of their close proximity to each other. If you are referring to how muddy his mic sounds, that could be caused by the limited frequency response of the mic he is using or the equalization settings he decided to use.
@@pete3816 Actually you can hear that is coming like in stereo. The voice is not centered so there must be some kind of delay between left and right.
Hey Derek. Thanks for the great video. Just curious as to the options I have to go into to my Mac mini and then Logic Pro x DAW. . . Is this a usb output to the computer? USB 3.0? Just wondering what my actual connection options are. Many thanks > Keith
It is USB 2.0 to your computer. Let me know if you have other questions and thanks for watching
Do you know the RTL of the USB on this console?
I've not tested it, but found this at 128 buffer 8.911 ms
What is the latency like if you monitor through pro tools?
Depends on your computer and buffer setting. why would you monitor through PT's when you have the console?
For hip hop production sometimes artist like to hear themselves rap or sing with auto tune
Really depends on your computer and you buffer setting for that.
Hi thanks for this. Does this desk have sends and returns. I have some lexicon outboard I would like to use. Thanks.
Lel. Of Course it has some Aux Sends and Returns.
Also, is this rack mountable? Thanks again.
Derek, When using as a DAW, which button is THIS button that you speak of? In other words, you say to push this button to make it a DAW but I can't tell which button you are talking about. :>)Thanks
Actually I pushed the DAW button and it does nothing. Do you have to set it up as to what it does? Thanks
The DAW button activates that control, but of course you need your DAW setup to receive control. What DAW are you using?
I hope you are still answering questions on this video. I have some questions below but I haven't seen a response yet. I have one additional question what type of desk do you have? Rough cost and where did you get it? Thanks
Brent Walker, it is a Middle Atlantic desk, not sure if they make it any more. I am Sales Engineer at Sweetwater, so that is where I got it. Thanks
Thanks for the video there seems to be so few comprehensive ones out there. So I'm also curious about the DAW function. is it true you can only access 8 faders of DAW tracks at a time? I would love to use 16 faders coming from the DAW??? Also what are your thoughts about the monitor section in terms of sounds and function. How is the talk back section? Also have you used a external preamp with the M32R could you explain how that works? Sorry for all the questions in advance.
Brent Walker, you can only control 8 faders at once for DAW. As for external pres best would be through Aux inputs as those are just one level inputs. I’ve never used the monitor section as I have a Drawmer monitor controller.
Is there a way for you to plug a cd burner in, so that you can burn straight to a cd?
You could run the main mix to a CD burner, so yeah, that is possible.
Hey, I have Mac laptop and logic prox. I can’t figure out how to use my daw with m32r. Can you help?
What's the issue? It should just show up as a audio interface on your computer.
@@dereksenestraro well, in a nutshell, I get either a channel signal with no sound coming through from my tracks in logic, or sound from my tracks with no signal from my channel on the M32. The Midas is not reading my individual tracks in logic. They’re just coming through on stereo tracks, channel 1 & 2. If I try to record a track through the M32, I can’t hear any playback of my existing tracks on Logic. Hope I’m making sense.
So between this and the studio live 32… which does DAW better??
If using Studio One, then the Presonus, if not, then this. Or even better I have the Wing now and it works great as a DAW controller
Hi, Derek. I really need your help. I have the Midas 32R but I don't understand anything. I need to connect two guitars, three microphones, one bass and one tablet with backing tracks.
Happy to help, what seems to be the problem?
@@dereksenestraro Could you explain me from the beginning? for example, it would be nice if you made a video of how to connect the instruments of a band on stage. Don't know how to do it and equalize. Thanks for your reply.
@@dereksenestraro or just tell me how can I put effect to the microphones and guitars
Does it have instrument inputs like focustrite clarett 8 pre has? For guitar purposes. When I want play and record guitars and basses via plugins directly?
It does not. They are all either XLR or balanced line level. You would need a DI to plug a guitar directly in.
@@dereksenestraro Thank You. Im intrerested in this thing. Wonder how it works with new apple silicon m1 chips. Drivers, latency etc.
@@petersinol should be no problem at all. They have drivers. Latency isn't relevant if you are monitoring on the console not through the DAW
Thank You
Nice Video:) are the mixer easily compartible with logic pro x? or maybe do you know of any issues??
thx 🤘🏻
hello. when you record a vocal from the console, how (where) you connect the headphones to listen your voice and the mix. thank you. am using Cubase
On the mixer itself, the return from the computer at the board mixed with the live inputs.
Hi Can you please show me how to setup M32 R with Protool or Sonar via USB? I am new to this system , can't figure out... Thank you so much ! 🙏
You would simply connect the mixer to your computer and assuming you are on a PC, you'd need to install the USB driver (from Midas) and then select that as your audio device inside your DAW software (PT's or Sonar) Let me know if I can be of further help.
Can you use all 16 faders for daw control, or only the right-hand set of 8 faders?
Thanks for the question Peter, and yes, the right 8 faders are the control faders. Of course you can jump by banks of 8 to other tracks in the DAW or by single tracks. I have those buttons programmed in the user buttons so it is very simple
Derek hi, can I use an external audio interface with this console? rather the built in one.
I have the same question as Brent Walker regarding DAW control. In addition, you talk about using all physical channels for live mix, but are you sending that mix back to the DAW, or are you sending the final stereo bus to a different device like ADAT, etc.? Great video BTW. I have been looking at this board for some time and your review fills a void in available info, so thank you very much for sharing! Edit - There is definitely some great additional info hidden in the replies below, including the answer to my second question.
Rufus Kay, you can do either, send a stereo mix back to the computer, monitoring off of desk and muting input in DAW, or sometimes I will just record main mix to USB jump drive on console.
@@dereksenestraro Two questions. One is, can you record the console's wet effects to Pro Tools right from the start? I have not found a way to do so. It always records just the dry signal from the console to Pro Tools.
Second is, if I send multiple tracks out of Pro Tools to the console, then add effects and mix the tracks on the console. How do I get that mix back into Pro Tools on a stereo print track?
I set the the console routing input tab to Play and all the inputs to card inputs.
My Card tab outputs are all set to local.
I assume I may need to adjust one of these when sending wet mix back to the Pro Tools print track.
I do realize that this might be out of the ordinary as most would maybe apply the effects and mix in Pro Tools with plugins.
I am trying to learn what I can and cannot do with the console as it is new to me.
Thank you. Great video!
@@mikeschreiber9352 yes, create a stereo record track back in Pro tools assign a mix output to USB out on console and then arm that track in Pro tools (and mute it) so you can monitor of the console, but you are recording a stereo track back in PT's. Let me know if you have other questions. Thanks
@@dereksenestraro Thank you so much for the information. I will give that a go tonight!
@@dereksenestraro here is what I tried.
In the routing of m32r i Set the card out tab 1-8 to Output 1-8 and then in the Patch Out tab assigned output 1 to main L and output 2 to main L. Then armed the pro tools stereo print track to input 1/2 stereo.
That works as long as I remember that I have to use the main fader on the console as well when feeding the stereo mix back to pro tools.
Is there a better way to do this?
I did try sending the fader channels to mix bus one and two and then map output 1 and 2 to use mix bus one and two but that was a bit weird wjen trying to mix the channel faders and monitor the mix bus 1 and 2.
The first method worked but just wondering how else I could achieve it?
I thought I was getting rick rolled at the start 😂
Are you using outboard gear with the Midas? And if so, how are you patching the gear in?
Does Midas m32r work with presounus studio one 3
Yes, absolutely!
Do you have any experience of the Yamaha TF series?
I do. I’ve used it extensively. Can I help with anything?
I just wanted you personal experience, thoughts, pros and cons between the TF the X32R and maybe the StudioLive series when it comes to f ex workflow, hardware, preferences etc when it comes to recording, mixing live or as DAW-control.
They are about the same price point.
Does the M32 work the same way?
What do you mean Elvin? Does the M32 work the same as the M32R? If that is what you are asking, absolutely yes.
Derek Senestraro Yes, it wasn't clear to me if the M32 R, was a "studio" version specifically for DAW or not. There are not a lot of consoles designed to work with DAW. Most are for live, but I like a functional control surface. My Tascam DM 4800 is designed for that, but complicated as hell, and has no scribble strips, which I hate. So, it's come down to Midas M32, or Soundcraft SI impact. I'll "probably" sell the Tascam.
Hey Derek, I was wondering if you mix your session on the console by running the tracks to the board via usb, how do you capture the main LR back on the DAW?
I am looking to set up my M32R in a specific way. I want my computer to be able to be heard from the USB card, I also have an external sampler (Akai MPC) that I want to go in the following two channels. I want to be able to send the audio of any incoming signal of the mixer via faders (stereo pair) to the Akai MPC for sampling without getting a feedback loop. I am using Firmware 4.02
If you could help I would appreciate it
Thanks.
thanx
Can anyone point me towards an expansive guide for using an m32r and DL32 in a studio setting? I have so many questions and the user manual that comes with it is so brief and vague. Any help would be much appreciated
If anyone has any tips or tricks to get a bit more gain out of a channel whilst recording with an SM7b? I've been thinking about possibly using the make-up gain of the compressors but I can't figure out a way to route it.
Another query I have is whether anyone knows how to route the talkback to the outputs of the DL32. The goal is to have computer audio and talkback to be sent through to our live room at the same time without the talkback feeding back in the control room.
Probably a lot to ask but grateful to anyone who can help. 🙌
@@AlexMobaraki You assign talkback to a Mix Bus then route that mix bus to the DL32 output that you want it to come out of. By default the snake outputs mirror the board outputs. so if you do mix bus 1 that should be physical out 1 as main outs are default 15/16
Hi sir, can I use any digital stage box on m32r
You can use the Midas or Behringer Stage boxes that have AES50. Thanks for watching
I've been using the M32C with the Midas DL32 for my bands live gigs and band rehearsals. Does each individual signal split to go to the sound card and where? Post gain on the channel? He speaks of getting a dry unaffected signal to the DAW, just wondering how ,exactly that is achieved.
I bought the device on instinct. I love the 'old' maschine controller. Not from the audio world, but after 4 days and 15 mins. trying, no sound. Haha. ;-)
What DAW are you using and have you routed the audio out to card in the routing tabs? Let me know how I can help
@@dereksenestraro I use Ableton Live 10. I will stick to the Zoom LiveTrak 12 for now. Am a singer and guitar player too, want to do stand up comedy and write books you know. ;-)
Can you print the FXs from the Midas to PT? Meaning if I use the Fairchild comp in the Midas as say the real outboard gear while recording to PT will it print that compressor to the recorded track or will it be recorded dry ?
Guess it will be dry recorded but u should can route the Auxes back to PT and record them separately
I have the exact same model.input 2 mics and 1 phone as playback for minus one. im sending main output to my mac for recording. I have 2 ps15 speakers to use as monitor. during recording, I prefer only to listen to playback and I dont want to put on headphone.could you show me how can i have the option of 1)playback only 2)vocals only 3)playback and vocal using the speakers. thanks
Im delima want to buy behringer x32 or midas m32. Is it worth if i buy m32? Need your suggestion or maybe can give some video x32 vs m32
Desk is Raxxess, not sure if they still make it
Hello sir, I am interested in becoming a sound engineer how can you help me
are you having any issues with latency?
In what way? Certainly not for tracking if you are monitoring off the board
Hi, is there an option to switch from monitor A to monitor B?
Thank you!
Where are the EQs for each Chanel ?
They are on each channel, you can control via the knobs under the screen.
Hi, Im having trouble setting up my midas with protools, can you guide me and “walk” me through it?
What issues are you having?
Is the Midas capable of 192khz ad/da or is it still capped at 48khz?
Boston Soundz it is 48k max, they have talked about 96k at some point, but not sure if we’ll ever see that
Derek Senestraro oh ok so the sample rate is locked at 48k but it DOES have the da/ad converter clocking at 192hz right ??
Hey Derek, great video! Quick question... I'm buying this board soon. I have some nice external pres that i like the color of. How would I insert these pres into this board and bypass the Midas Pre? I don't see direct inputs on this board like analog boards.
Robert Klemple thanks for the question and yes there are line level inputs, 6 of them on balanced 1/4” connectors
can you control insert plugins eq, dyn, etc... from the rotary dials within Pro Tools? i.e. a Plugin-Alliance BX Console or SSL Plugin Strip
Do you know how to assign a individual channel to a mute group? I know u can do it from the app for ipad or PC and on the M32 but I'm wondering if u know a way to so it in the M32R
David Arosemena Try from the home screen. Page 2 on the home screen under the knobs should have mute groups. Well if it’s anything like the X32 producer. Hope that helps.
The difference is the preamps and faders and of course the physical board itself. Probably wouldn’t hear much difference in how I’m using it in this video as I tracked it somewhere else. So didn’t use the Midas pres at all.
I guess you could use a external audio interface but you’d have told get the audio in and out, which could be challenging. Or you could get a card for it that gets you in and out digitally, Dante, Waves, ADAT.
I've been using the M32C with the Midas DL32 for my bands live gigs and band rehearsals. Does each individual signal split to go to the sound card and where? Post gain on the channel? He speaks of getting a dry unaffected signal to the DAW, just wondering how ,exactly that is achieved.
Yes, it does and you can select the “tap” as to were it goes to the DAW over USB, post gain and pre everything else is what I’d suggest
@@dereksenestraro Ok, thank you! I was wondering if that was the default when you connect the sound card of the Midas M32C to your Mac and DAW. As I don't have the physical knobs and faders; I have to use the I pad and/or my Raven touch screen to navigate my way around the M32 edit app. Haven't seen to many M32C tutorials that dive into the signal routing strategies. So I have to watch the M32 or M32R's and see if I can learn that way. I'd like to see just how to tap the signals in the software for recording or splitting the signal for bussing within the software. Thanks for replying! i'm looking forward to using my M32C as my recording console like you are using the M32R as your console.
Why is transport control 3/4 of the way up the board ? And In the centre - first thing you did was use mouse to press play (did anyone else notice this ? ) I think this shows daw implementation could have been better here ....
you can assign the location of transport control to the buttons below the scribble strip if you so desire, I like his use of the button group
What version of Pro Tools are you using..... and have you tried with PT 2018.7 does the M32 and M32R have any issues with mOS High Sierra 10.13.6
Not on latest, 2018.4 I think. Have you had some issues?
Derek Senestraro I’m in the middle of upgrading.... I want a desk that can be used with a DAW (pro tools preferably) although I have been considering including Cubase as I have 9.5 AI (upgrade/cross grade makes the Cubase Pro reasonably cheap) so Cubase a fall back to getting Pro Tools to function on some thing, your video looks extremely promising. I have been looking at PreSonus’s StudioLive series 3 SL32 but there appear to be issues with PT (not really sold on Studio One as a DAW). I am currently considering a Yamaha TF5 which appears to support Cubase fairly well and in turn function with Pro Tools.... seen a lot of talk but no one online I can find actually using it with Pro Tools. It seems the makers of the M32 don’t officially support Pro Tools especially on mOS 10.13.6 but there is some chatter on the user forum and the only complaint I can see is being restricted to the 8 fader..... yet you seem to have your whole board functioning?
with this can you record 16 tracks at once? I'm looking for a console for presonus studio one daw
Yes, it have 16 preamplifiers.
You can actually record 32 tracks at once via the built-in usb card. You select which sources you want and send their outputs through the usb to your DAW.
Once you send the outputs back to the DAW and start mixing, adding automation, etc., are all these actions then tied to the board / channel via the DAW? Meaning, I automate a volume change on channel 1 in the DAW, during playback, is that automation control reflected on the board? Thanks!
As of 3.0 you can automate the board through the DAW as far as I can tell
Hi i would buy a m32 and i want to know if with the m32, i can make the same thing then you with your 32r for recording and control my daw with pro tools hd 11, like you make with fader on left for console and on right for control my pro tools in the same time. Can you make things with your 32r than i can’t not make with the m32 that i want buy. Thank you
What version of PT are you running the board with please? Does anyone know if it will suffice PT HD daw? Thanks in advance!
I’m running latest version of Pro Tools. It using HUI so pretty much any version of PT will work
I’m thinking about getting this for FL. does anybody know if it’s compatible before I buy it?
Sure it will work using MCU (Mackie +Control Universal) and it is just 8 faders for control on that board
It will work with any DAW that has Mackie control or HUI (pro tools) support, and yes, rack mountable, needs 15u rack space
@ Jared Rogers. I got your reply in my email, but I can't find you in these threads to reply back. If you see this, try commenting again. Your reply was impressive though. I don't know too many Singers that KNOW ProTools, and could even conceive of putting a system like yours together.
Here I am, please respond back.
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Hi a great video, i want to buy a Midas M32R and use it as an interface for Cubase 10 and ProTools, but need somebody to help me explaining how to setup M32R and DAW, or even has a scene for M32R. I will paid for all thats no problem when you can explain step by step how to setup or send me a scene for M32R
Sorry it has been a while since you posted, I actually got rid of my M32R and I'm using Wing now. But for setup, really just making sure you have the driver installed in your computer, (and of course it connected via USB) and selecting that as your audio device in your DAW. Then you assign inputs in the DAW and setup your outputs in the Mixer of every channel to the Card outs so that way they go out USB. Email me if you have other questions. Thanks, Derek
Ok, I am trying to make my dream come true in about 7 days. Lots of work, can we manage to hook up, so you can speed me up a little? Cheers
It is a M32r, if I misspoke, so sorry
Why every compani said their console have 40 input???in fact it just have 16 input LOCAL...like x32,m32r
You can get 40 input unless you add extra money for digital snake
Halid Haris, what they are telling you is that has processing and ability to mix 40 channels at once, that is what the mix engine can handle
the faders are made by Alps not Midas and the control surface DAW control is not unique the Behringer and others do the same thing. Yes the pre amps are original Midas unlike the x32 which are designed by Midas. Why do they call it live? From what I can find out as with the standard out the box x32 can only record stereo as a stand alone device, you need to connect a computer to the console for multi track live/mobile recordings. The x32 has a SD add on card available that can record the multi track inputs what about the Midas? or can it also use the Behringer x32 SD card? It uses the same X32 software LIMITED to 48kHZ sample rate so the only advantage over the x32 is the upgraded faders and better pre amps?? erm not quite true, the snake for the x32 has Midas pre amps Behringer expected users to buy it and not use the on board amps, so in the end what you save buying the x32 you can spend on the snake which most people would do anyway and you get the same console features as the M32, excluding the alps faders... No brainer, the X32 wins
Thanks for the intput, the current M32 is called LIVE and has the SD card installed. The M32 is WAY different physically, much more robust and heavy duty. Also, the X32 stage boxes S16 and S32 have Midas designed pres, same as the X32, the Midas stage boxes are the DL16 and DL32 with Midas preamps. thanks for checking out my video and hope you are making great music!
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Plus banking , your arm ends up covering the scribble strips when you bank - this makes no sense ?! I think we are close to a great all in one solution - but not there yet ... maybe 2 year ... my money is on Universal Audio
it is not a m32
You show us an amazing mixer and audio equipment but your actual audio sounds like crap sorry.
Hey Luis thanks for watching, and it is always a challenge to capture the live audio from my mic well. I assume that is what you are referring to. I'm not using that mic any more, so hopefully future videos will be better. Sorry it was annoying to you!
@@dereksenestraro is ok great mixer thanks for your video.