Rojas Hybrid Precision Trucks, First Look.
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We got our hands on some Rojas Hybrids, and decided to a bit of a short rundown and explanation on their operation, and compare them with other trucks, and review the pros and cons of the design approach.
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these trucks are amazing, I ride on a pair. these trucks are great for carving and cruising as well as bombing hills. every slide and turn making me feel more confident that the trucks will do what they are supposed to. I recommend these trucks for everybody
Until the bushing tears at one of the 4 holes in it. Speed wobbles are almost all in your head. Board control is with your ankles and it's just becoming accustomed to your board. Bushings that fit your weight or desired carvy or restricting bushings are a plus as well. Just practice practice practice. Gain confidence and things should become easier.
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speed wobbles are not in your head (entirely), but can absolutely be controlled by your head (not entirely)
I own a pair of these, and let me tell you guys, it's the real deal. Such stability while downhilling (because of the 0 slop it has) but super carvy when you want it to be (because of the insane rebound the pull and push of the disc). It's definitely going to help progress the sport. Freeriding and long standies are simply effortless with these...so much confidence.
i see that agent orange board from bomb squad texas! :D
The slop in the Cronins is due to a shockingly shit stock pivot tube. I recommend replacing them with riptide 96A tubes.
and then you go to do a slide or a pop trick and they snap in half and frankly venom and blood orange bushing have awesome rebound and my cast caliber have no slop in the slightest and they are great at speeds I've gone around 45-55 on them and they've been fine
definitely seem to be really high precision. and a very cool and different idea. i might get some
MAN IT'S AMAZING
I would love to see something like this designed for skate plates on roller skates. It looks like it offers great precision, setting as there's compression and expansion in the bushings, rather than only compression. The closest we have to this is a skate plate called the Arius, and it has a similar kingpin design. The downfall, is that it still uses only compression on two single butterfly bushings, one for each truck.
cars use similar bushings in steering shafts,drive shafts,and other precise drivin parts that need cushion. washing machines also have a similar bushing between the motor and transmission to help cushion the parts from jarring when there is a heavy load. This is interesting
it took such balls to abandon tradition in the way Jared did and work on a design for YEARS, and fight through all the skepticism and parse all the feedback. And the seeds he planted are starting to grow! I'm seeing more and more riders pick these up; 2020 boutta be L I T
I still think he should have sacrificed some precision and targeted more affordability over performance. Price has slowed their growth this whole time, and so much of their performance comes from the design not from the tolerance of the parts. Could have had a lot more of it come from over the counter hardware.
Its a very interesting idea
Looks like a great idea, but I want to see them ridden, I just have a few doubts.
Rojas shares some design similarities to Exkate. But Exkate has a reputation for wobs at speed. Looks interesting, might have to get a set.
Its all in the resistance, The Rojas bushing provides a real positive feel, even at zero.
I've hit almost 100km/h in Peyragudes with these trucks and I can surely say that these things are STABLE as fuck!
Only downside, there should be more bushing options, because they are either really loose (with the 90a HR bushings) or really tight (with the 93a HR bushings)
Well cody womack, a rider from braden boards, has the official longest stand-up slide on them at 180ft as well as he has had them at speeds excess of 50mph, I'd say these are the most stable trucks on the market.
Meh.
I'm not impressed by tricks.
Or, well... I am. But for the rider, not the trucks.
I'm hearing a lot that these are stable, but even assuming they are the #1 most stable truck, The advantage they would have over any number of performance trucks already available, would probably be negligible.
Buy trucks for what you're doing, not because somebody else did something with them.
if you not impressed by tricks why do you have a bunch of really good gear that you dont need
I also have a bombsquad agent orange gagat
if you bend your hangers on these trucks will you get a free set of replacement hangers?
Not sure what the warranty is like.
But I'm pretty sure that if its a severe bend, they'll help you out.
how high up does the rojas raise your board? esp w using riser
ps : love your experimenting/design discussions...
What are the orange wheels you had on the mars board
Could you talk about suspension trucks?
If the bushing is out can the hanger spin 360*? When do you think you will have a review out?
I think the pins would hit each other
Ronin is the best slop reducing truck.
Ronin are pretty good.
They definitely reduce slop, but these virtually eliminate it.
Most people are going to prefer ronins though.
So does this mean no more wheelbite??
so if i send in a broken set of rojas or severely bent rojas you'll hook it up with a new set? I have a set but they are not broken/bent but in the future if i do bend or break them i want to know they will have a warranty
You'll have to email braden boards for an answer that specific. I can only speculate.
I love it do you have web side where I can buy them
durometer of big blue?
Did he even put the trucks on right?
yeah, because the rotational axis is revolving around the "kingpin" and not perpendicular to the kingpin, like in the standard design, the trucks appear to be backward but will turn the same way.
Can I tighten or loosen the truck up the if I think it's too leany or the opposite?
The only way to adjust them, is to switch out the bushings.
Its definitely a draw back.
On the plus side though, the rojas bushing is a lot more forgiving than a traditional bushing as far as being too lose or too tight. So you really can get away with sticking with one bushing a lot easier.
But again... on the flip side of that, these bushings are much more affected by heat, so you'll probably need a different bushing in the summer, than in the fall.
why rojas hanger has so much rake wtf? its about 12mm, right? i liked this torsional bushing concept as an engineer, but i wouldnt like the feel when turning. it must behave like a TKP.
Its TKP-ish for sure, but there's more to a TKP than just rake.
The closest thing as far as resistance progression you'll get is like a Ronin truck, in that regard its nothing like a TKP at all.
I might be experimenting trying to make a rakeless rojas hanger. I'll be a fun test.
@@LongboardTechnology I've contacted owner and designer of Rojas, Jared Braden, to produce a rakeless hanger and he said ''it will be released very soon!''.
@@cancelik
That's interesting.
I made a rakeless Rojas in CAD and, well it doesn't quite adapt to it as nicely as as RKPs, and you have to end up making compromises to accommodate.
I wasn't sure Rojas would ever be happy enough with a rakeless design to release it.
@@LongboardTechnology ''you have to end up making compromises to accommodate.''... I don't get what you mean man. beside that, I think, rakeless rojas will be the most RKPish-feeling truck that ever released in the longboard history.
@@cancelik
Ok, here's what I mean.
If you make it rakeless, but only do that by moving the axle closer to the pin, then you end up wit very little clearance, and the hanger's really close to the ground.
There's a way to reduce that, but it ends up making the board taller and also makes the wheel base shorter on the trucks.
Its 100% doable, but Braden has really high standards in what he makes.
If you're trying to explain a truck and how it feels, why would you set it up with another truck (the other planet) that not many people know about?
Because Other Planet's are AWESOME!
And because the sole reason for me purchasing the trucks, was to pair them with OPs.
I still don't really understand why though.
clay it's called tinkering...
If u guys want no speed wobbs then get trucks that don't turn, if u don't mind losing out on that
Get better bushings. Not trucks. the harder they are the more stable
Just sayin its hard to pull 50mph on something like a cast randal.
Even most presicion trucks has a little slop in them.
Theses trucks, physically, have every advantage so far because with a single bushing and a bearing setup they are a lot less sloppy.
The only trucks that i can think of being more stable is OP's because of the twin pivot points over the single point.
i know someone whos gone 60 on randals and indy hybrid 215s and only rides randals soooooo?
Nick Brown video or it didnt happen.
kids of the future Vimeo hes riding a markey price with indys
christian w. james kelly use to ride for randal and im sure hes gone 60+ back when he skated randals
notice how i said cast randals...
kelly most likely rode precision
where do i buy these
how can you be so mechanical and not understand sound at all? I can't hear you half the time. inverse square law my friend.
It's just you dude
+Uncledoug ahah actually you are so right, is an issue in many videos of them ..that show how you can be very smart and accurate in a thing you are passionate about and don't give a fuck about others :) ..actually caring about the sound is a big component of the shooting routine, take lot of time, knowledge and practice, if you notice they don't care much also about the look and editing of the video.
Is all right, they keep it interesting with the contents, sometimes if you worry to much about the video quality you end up not doing the video at all.
and precisions would be even better
What other trucks are as good for cheaper?
None
+Phillip Morrison Cast Ronin and Cast rogue. both really nice trucks
This channel and video are both great ideas you two just need to work on your presentation, film and editing skills. Your content is good but your videography needs work. I want to see you guys ridding them.
im not here to hate but dam hope you dont try to go any faster than a carve or you will get mad speed wobbles
Actually, The Rojas ended up being completely amazing for speed.
I expected them to have too much rake, but the return to center is so strong, they're really something.
Longboard Technology waa you dont want a fast return to center when going downhill.these are trucks made for carving not going fast straight
These trucks are made for a lot of things.
They go fast extremely well.
I misspoke a little bit. They aren't super reboundy, and they don't return to center super fast.
I meant that they have a strong center, that really zeros in, partially because of the bushing, but mostly because of there being absolutely zero slop.
Google 82639556 to see their Vimeo video.
Why do people try to reinvent the truck? If trucks didn't work they would have been fixed a long time ago.
Because people want different things.
You think the guys who made this would have bothered if they were getting everything they wanted from a normal truck?
I like it, when we didn't have these kind of concept trucks, sometimes the sport stuck I some direction. I think it breaks limits and give us all the opportunity to push forward to what is possible
There's always room for a lil improvement. Just cause it works, doesn't mean it can't perform any better.
Old clunky monitors worked, so why invent the thin LCD/LED monitors? Dial-up internet worked, so why invent the fibre optic broadband? In fact, if you can walk, why do you even need longboards?
$160
I tried a set they feel like original trucks. honestly just buy a pintail 40 from original with some 4 presidents, in heats, gumballs, gripins, or any grippy wheel of choice and you'll have a blast just pumping then buy these over priced surf feeling trucks. Longest run on and I don't even care lol
I wouldn't really compare them to Originals.
I mean, They're both trucks. If all you need is trucks, then obviously they both work. But once you start moving away from some of the basics fundamentals, they become drastically different.
yeah have fun with that pintail going 25+ kook
Never said 25+ troll learn to read and comprehend
the point of these trucks isn't for cruising, KOOK
they're heavy DH original trucks are carving
+Guy Panno ya kook
WHEEEEEEEL BITE FOR DAYS thats why we dont have over sized bushings because its not needed
Being able to lean further isn't a bad thing.
I don't need your explanation man, just zoom in for us to see what's going on.