Because there were only a handful made, and they were very successful, meaning they were employed in the extremely dangerous realm of low-altitude air racing until the eventually were crashed or damaged to badly to fix. And of course people like to focus on the negative; it;s like how people still only talk about the F-104 as a "dangerous aircraft", and never talk about all the F-104s that DIDN'T crash, which were the majority. Same idea though, big engine + small plane, sacrifices were made for the sake of performance, and a pilot could wreck one by not paying close enough attention. The planes rarely crashed themselves.
justforever96 hard to say it was a good plane when literally all low/single wing GeeBees crashed. The only ones that survived were 2 of the biplanes they built that were a completely different design. It’s a shit plane but cool I guess.
Way too short of the runway! This could have been avoided if the pilot had flown more responsibly and taken greater care in his landing approach! The plane was way under its required speed for the wing loading! What a shame!!!
I often have this issue, which with this large model is compounded, depth perception when the background is too uniform. It is sometimes difficult to tell the planes true position.
Oh, it’s none of those things. It’s the fact that the airfield is on a higher level, and when he came down, he was behind the hill. He ran into the hill right before the landing strip. Wow that’s a shame that was a beautiful aircraft will build another one. Will see you shortly with a new one.
I have two GeeBees radio control R2 models . You have to trim them for landing .That is nose high so that they fly safely above stall speed with no elevator input and with the throttle controlling sink rate . Fly a full circuit and then reduce throttle on down wind to be nice and slow and low enough to drag her in on throttle alone without any elevator input . Aim for n three pointer and when inches above runway reduce throttle slowly and round out elevator to allow her to settle .Close throttle pull back on stick and be wake up with rudder because they love to groundloop ! If she bounces hold nose up never stick forward hooe for tte best .If bounce is too high feed in throttle ,go around and try again. You must be hapoy with approach before the landing .If in doubt go around .I have done 6 approaches and more before finally landing ! Such a satisfying achievement to properly land a GeeBee . I love them !!!
My father watched these at the Cleveland Air Races in the 1930's. IIRC, he built 2 models, a red + white and a blue + yellow. The plane looks and sounds great, unfortunate that it imitated the real ones so well. Hope it got rebuilt. After I was born, he took me to the postwar Cleveland races, they told me that at around 4 years old, I was examining the engines close up while they were running. Guess I was hooked then.
I looked at the landing 3 times and we must remember airspeed is everything..... The plane had a very heavy engine upfront whereby increasing the wing loading.... practice to fly your planes in and you will never have this issue. I see this thing happening too many times on my field also .... we all tend to land these high wing loading planes too slow.... they simply fall out of the sky and slam on the landing strip
I thought they meant the 1932 Lowell Baile crash. I had it on a VCR tape but my player finally quit. He was trying for a speed record and the one wing folded up.
I remember reading about mothers telling their pilot soldiers to “fly low and slow son” as they went off to war. You can certainly forget that with the GeeBee.
She looks pretty repairable from here gentlemen. But obviously looks can be deceiving ! This is a very difficult plane to fly to be sure ! A gorgeous plane ! Would be interested to know if you have her repaired, and back in the air yet ?
Hi, this plane is notdifficult to fly! The pilot have no problems with it. Only the place is not his homebase. The place is uphill and so he came down to early. Geebee is already airborn! And flyes and flyes..... Sorry for my bad English :-)
@@da_rene2307 Good to know fellas ! Glad repairs are made, and back in the air ! Not to worry about your English, it is my native language, and I still struggle with it ! Beyond that, I am only able to speak English, and American English at that ! I struggled to attempt to learn Spanish years ago, and failed miserably ! Thanks for the update gentlemen ! Happy flying !
Bei meiner GeeBee lande ich mit Tempo bei waagerechtem Anflug. Trotzdem hüpft sie . Sie muß lange glatt ausrollen können, dann klappt es nur. Hier zog der Pilot einmal zu früh am Höhenruder, er war noch zu hoch, dadurch sackte sie ab und der Winkel wurde zu steil. Das Fahrwerk ist steif und hat keine Federung, leider.
Wasn't lack of airspeed, basically he flew it into the ground. i took a close look at the landing and right before impact, no elevator movement up to flare. I have flown RC for 25 years. The take off was an indication that this plane didn't have that high of a wing loading. Radio failure, linkage failure or dumb thumb. I did watch another video of him landing this plane, he definitely doesn't do the greatest landings.
You don't flare Gee Bee's especially the R1/R2 descent is throttle controlled, with rudder correction judging air speed at that distance is pretty dicey. Most GB touchdowns occur pretty close to the pilot if not pass the pilot you got to see the airspeed. The wing loading and pitch sensitivity is just crazy.
@@jeffs7915 Descent is throttle controlled, watch Delmar Benjamin landing a full size GeeBee Z. There is a distinctive flare before touch down, then elevator is relaxed and down elevator fed in on the rollout as speed is bled off, but we are talking about a model here and poor throttle, elevator management and basically flying it into the ground. Very few people i've seen flying RC planes are good at flying them especially landings and takeoffs.
Said the same thing no Flare just what seems like a left aileron bank but no elevator went up. Air speed was alive, that was just piloting error. He flew that directly into the ground with down elevator even 5% flare could’ve saved the aircraft.
@@tonywright8294 But these models are just Scaled down versions of the same flight characteristics and principles, aviation and flight elevator, rudder, ailerons you can see flaps Ect Ect on certain fully scaled RC models, but the basic flight characteristic same when flying these models.
Sheer stupidity of the pilot. Before i make any acrobatics i study the field in several approaches in patterns of approach and emergency landing exercise before any idea of any show effect. There was enough hight and enough time to manage the glide path properly.
Yeah, they really should have left the wings off. 99% of all airplane crashes could have been avoided if they had just not installed those damn wings on them!
As soon as i started watching this ,i said im not a fan of these type of aircraft, but she preformed well,sounded great just new she was going to crash, sorry for ya loss mate ,heart breaking 🤙
I model fly myself. Taking off is not nearly as hard as landing. Especially with a heavy plane such as a Gee Bee. I have a P-47, which is also heavy and hard to land. You need to come in “Hot.” I Broke the landing gear on my first landing attempt.
I'm pretty sure the original GBee had a 9 cylinder PW it has been a great engine first designed in 1920's now still being used in cropdusting. I flew behind them for 2700 hrs before moving up to PW pt6 turbines. Sorry about model
I don't know anything about aero dynamics but this thing just looks like it has too much body and not enough wing. Just a huge engine with a stubby little body stuck onto it.
He just came in to low, he was below the landing field it looked like to me. I've done it myself. Of course that aircraft has a high stall speed and high landing speed but if ya drag the gear off before ya get to the strip none of that matters.
The real life aircraft was notoriously dangerous and difficult to fly. Only three were built, and two of them claimed the lives of their pilots; only Jimmy Doolittle flew the Gee Bee and lived to tell about it.
Kermit Weeks has probably the most accurate replica of the Gee Bee Z in existence . He has flown it a couple of times , and then had it tested for aerodynamic flutter . It turns out that flutter in the wings shows up at about 320 knots IAS , so he is holding off of flying it until they can determine that it is safe to fly . The Gee Bee racers are beautifully attractive , fast and alluring , but also deadly . IMHO , they should be preserved for historical and esthetic reasons , but not flown because they are dangerous and have killed several highly skilled and experienced pilots who rolled the dice and lost . I would hate to see Kermit , who is a national treasure to aviation be lost risking flying one of these aircraft . Jimmy Doolittle risked it and won the 1932 Bendix trophy race , but right after that he said hed never fly that plane again due to it's sketchy flight characteristics. Scariest plane he ever flew .
I see many that can fly these very good but when it comes down to landing them, that seems to always be the real challenge. Sorry to see this happen. Was a beautiful plane.
Added to which there's no pilot's eye view as an RC operator --you are landing almost blind. This remote factor contributes to the incidents in the air where the op pulls excessive G but can't feel it building up because they are stood in a field holding a transmitter. Result- disintegration. I still think RC choppers and RC fixed wing shouldn't be airborne simultaneously on an event day. We've seen what happens.
I have lots of experience in crashing airplanes. When I was first starting I’d take a garbage sack with me to help carry all the bits home. I even crashed one with me in it. So I think he let it get too slow. Also looks like he stalled it.
What a shame, anyway you'd built a beautiful model and except for the accident it's obvious that you knew how to fly it, I could see that from some of your maneuvers. Hope you try again!
Feel sorrie for aircraft .Never looked like the pilot prepared for landing .No last curcuit with aircraft trimmed in landing configuration .Looks like it ran out of airspeed and list height abd instead of feeding in power more up elevator was dualked in .Aircraft stalled and hit the ground ! RIP GeeBee Z !!!
The words Gee Bee and crash usually appear in the same sentence.
Because there were only a handful made, and they were very successful, meaning they were employed in the extremely dangerous realm of low-altitude air racing until the eventually were crashed or damaged to badly to fix. And of course people like to focus on the negative; it;s like how people still only talk about the F-104 as a "dangerous aircraft", and never talk about all the F-104s that DIDN'T crash, which were the majority. Same idea though, big engine + small plane, sacrifices were made for the sake of performance, and a pilot could wreck one by not paying close enough attention. The planes rarely crashed themselves.
billville111 Ha Ha. I like that. You may be closer to the truth than you think.
justforever96 hard to say it was a good plane when literally all low/single wing GeeBees crashed. The only ones that survived were 2 of the biplanes they built that were a completely different design. It’s a shit plane but cool I guess.
just took a ballsy pilot to look fear in the eye and carry on...Delmar Benjamin is a testament to that fact. Great airplane...scary, but great.
Interestingly, whenever you google Gee Bee, predictive text automatically fills in the word "crash" immediately after.
Beautiful beautiful sound graceful in the air
I'm not a pilot but looks like the angle of descent was a bit too steep...
That was a SHOCK!!! Fabulous build and sound. Thanks, Paul Thailand
Way too short of the runway! This could have been avoided if the pilot had flown more responsibly and taken greater care in his landing approach! The plane was way under its required speed for the wing loading! What a shame!!!
That is one SAVAGE threshold your field has........and it's only HALF an aeroplane to rebuild at least
I often have this issue, which with this large model is compounded, depth perception when the background is too uniform. It is sometimes difficult to tell the planes true position.
True and of course the camera had the advantage of zoom which the pilot didn't.
This looks like the Gee Bee from the 1991 movie, “The Rocketeer.”
Did it get fixed? I can't believe the prop didn't get broken.
pilot has no depth perception?
I guess mishaps can happen to anyone...many he was trying to nail it (Sry for my bad english)
Oh, it’s none of those things. It’s the fact that the airfield is on a higher level, and when he came down, he was behind the hill. He ran into the hill right before the landing strip. Wow that’s a shame that was a beautiful aircraft will build another one. Will see you shortly with a new one.
I also had a smaller version of this. They land at cruise speed .... beautiful models but hard to fly just like the real one
Might as well take a brick and strap a motor to it it would probably fly better
Absolutely, lose concentration or disrespect the unique design of the airframe and that's it.
I have two GeeBees radio control R2 models . You have to trim them for landing .That is nose high so that they fly safely above stall speed with no elevator input and with the throttle controlling sink rate . Fly a full circuit and then reduce throttle on down wind to be nice and slow and low enough to drag her in on throttle alone without any elevator input . Aim for n three pointer and when inches above runway reduce throttle slowly and round out elevator to allow her to settle .Close throttle pull back on stick and be wake up with rudder because they love to groundloop !
If she bounces hold nose up never stick forward hooe for tte best .If bounce is too high feed in throttle ,go around and try again. You must be hapoy with approach before the landing .If in doubt go around .I have done 6 approaches and more before finally landing !
Such a satisfying achievement to properly land a GeeBee .
I love them !!!
My father watched these at the Cleveland Air Races in the 1930's. IIRC, he built 2 models, a red + white and a blue + yellow.
The plane looks and sounds great, unfortunate that it imitated the real ones so well. Hope it got rebuilt.
After I was born, he took me to the postwar Cleveland races, they told me that at around 4 years old, I was examining the engines close up while they were running. Guess I was hooked then.
My father talked about them also.
They put those cones at the end of the runway for a very good reason.
I looked at the landing 3 times and we must remember airspeed is everything..... The plane had a very heavy engine upfront whereby increasing the wing loading.... practice to fly your planes in and you will never have this issue. I see this thing happening too many times on my field also .... we all tend to land these high wing loading planes too slow.... they simply fall out of the sky and slam on the landing strip
I guess the pilons marked the edge of a grade... it seems the pilot steers the model directly into the grade instead of the plain meadow!
I would think flaps would help.
it's a huge ass model, why not add flaps?
How could you possibly know it’s wing loading ?
@@davidjacobs8558what’s a huge ass model?
@@tonywright8294simple. Look at the wing area v weight
I thought they meant the 1932 Lowell Baile crash. I had it on a VCR tape but my player finally quit. He was trying for a speed record and the one wing folded up.
I remember reading about mothers telling their pilot soldiers to “fly low and slow son” as they went off to war. You can certainly forget that with the GeeBee.
She looks pretty repairable from here gentlemen.
But obviously looks can be deceiving !
This is a very difficult plane to fly to be sure !
A gorgeous plane !
Would be interested to know if you have her repaired, and back in the air yet ?
Hi, this plane is notdifficult to fly! The pilot have no problems with it. Only the place is not his homebase. The place is uphill and so he came down to early. Geebee is already airborn! And flyes and flyes.....
Sorry for my bad English :-)
@@da_rene2307
Good to know fellas !
Glad repairs are made, and back in the air !
Not to worry about your English, it is my native language, and I still struggle with it !
Beyond that,
I am only able to speak English, and
American English at that !
I struggled to attempt to learn Spanish years ago, and failed miserably !
Thanks for the update gentlemen !
Happy flying !
You forgot to yell landing.
Controlled flight into terrain?
The GeeBee was a handful to fly in real scale so why would the RC version be any different?
Did the pilot survive?
sie FLIEGT wieder??
Bitte zeigen!!
Bei meiner GeeBee lande ich mit Tempo bei waagerechtem Anflug.
Trotzdem hüpft sie .
Sie muß lange glatt ausrollen können, dann klappt es nur.
Hier zog der Pilot einmal zu früh am Höhenruder, er war noch zu hoch, dadurch sackte sie ab und der Winkel wurde zu steil.
Das Fahrwerk ist steif und hat keine Federung, leider.
Faltou dedo do piloto ?'
What happened?Too slow speed on approach?
As the say the take off is optional, the landing is mandatory. Make sure you can do that part as well!
No up elevator at all ? With a heavy model like this, you don't slam into the ground
Did he survive? Was he ejected?
Needed to add power near the ground, you could see the airspeed bleed
Looks like it was being flown too slow due to the sink rate at the end.....
Que paso?, porque se desplomó tan bien que iba.
What the heck... looks like the runway changes levels...?
Not a good flying field.
Looks 👀 like he hit a ditch! 😮 Expensive mishap!
Wasn't lack of airspeed, basically he flew it into the ground. i took a close look at the landing and right before impact, no elevator movement up to flare. I have flown RC for 25 years. The take off was an indication that this plane didn't have that high of a wing loading. Radio failure, linkage failure or dumb thumb. I did watch another video of him landing this plane, he definitely doesn't do the greatest landings.
You don't flare Gee Bee's especially the R1/R2 descent is throttle controlled, with rudder correction judging air speed at that distance is pretty dicey. Most GB touchdowns occur pretty close to the pilot if not pass the pilot you got to see the airspeed. The wing loading and pitch sensitivity is just crazy.
@@jeffs7915 Descent is throttle controlled, watch Delmar Benjamin landing a full size GeeBee Z. There is a distinctive flare before touch down, then elevator is relaxed and down elevator fed in on the rollout as speed is bled off, but we are talking about a model here and poor throttle, elevator management and basically flying it into the ground. Very few people i've seen flying RC planes are good at flying them especially landings and takeoffs.
Said the same thing no Flare just what seems like a left aileron bank but no elevator went up. Air speed was alive, that was just piloting error. He flew that directly into the ground with down elevator even 5% flare could’ve saved the aircraft.
It’s a model ,nothing to do with the real thing !
@@tonywright8294 But these models are just Scaled down versions of the same flight characteristics and principles, aviation and flight elevator, rudder, ailerons you can see flaps Ect Ect on certain fully scaled RC models, but the basic flight characteristic same when flying these models.
A naughty donkey on the run ... I was already on my toes .. just watching the flying . Mr. Mulligan might suit my nerves better :)
Sheer stupidity of the pilot. Before i make any acrobatics i study the field in several approaches in patterns of approach and emergency landing exercise before any idea of any show effect. There was enough hight and enough time to manage the glide path properly.
GREAT MUSIC EDIT at the Crash!
Thank You!
Its those damn wings on the GeeBee's Get ya every time
Yeah, they really should have left the wings off. 99% of all airplane crashes could have been avoided if they had just not installed those damn wings on them!
zu früh aufgesetzt und quer noch .. eieiiei wieder aufgebaut ?
Wow! Just like the real thing! Even crashed the same!
Could a baby be trained to fly this plane? Really get his pilot's license?
As soon as i started watching this ,i said im not a fan of these type of aircraft, but she preformed well,sounded great just new she was going to crash, sorry for ya loss mate ,heart breaking 🤙
Maybe something in the title, gave it away?
The prototype was also difficult to fly - a death trap.
So i guess the model replicated the genuine article really well.
Too bad. I'm sure it's been rebuilt by now.
I model fly myself. Taking off is not nearly as hard as landing. Especially with a heavy plane such as a Gee Bee. I have a P-47, which is also heavy and hard to land. You need to come in “Hot.” I Broke the landing gear on my first landing attempt.
and not short
DEeMON For Sure. That Too.
I'm pretty sure the original GBee had a 9 cylinder PW it has been a great engine first designed in 1920's now still being used in cropdusting. I flew behind them for 2700 hrs before moving up to PW pt6 turbines. Sorry about model
I don't know anything about aero dynamics but this thing just looks like it has too much body and not enough wing. Just a huge engine with a stubby little body stuck onto it.
Great landing MR BEAN. 😊😊
Thou must not allow thy airspeed to becometh too slow lest the earth come up and smite thee
Another hot-shot pilot who can't land.....
who makes this kit
Why does it have to be a kit ?
He just came in to low, he was below the landing field it looked like to me. I've done it myself. Of course that aircraft has a high stall speed and high landing speed but if ya drag the gear off before ya get to the strip none of that matters.
Those were death traps in real life also.
Klaus Froba (pilot) turn in your pilots' license!
Nice flying, beautiful job on an unusual subject. The approach was a little low and slow. Overall, nice job
What a heartbreak! And the pilot was clearly skilled and capable.
Sometimes, things just don't go your way. 😔💔
Yeah clearly skilled and capable, that’s why he crashed😂😂
I don't think the GeeBee was designed to be landed.
@@wallywally8282 Spoken like someone without a clue.
The real life aircraft was notoriously dangerous and difficult to fly. Only three were built, and two of them claimed the lives of their pilots; only Jimmy Doolittle flew the Gee Bee and lived to tell about it.
@@My_Fair_Lady You would be wrong according to the FAA. Even a kid flying a toy drone in his back yard is a pilot by FAA definition.
*Let the Sunshine In...*
Pilot error
Obviously a competent model pilot. I have forgotten to level off when landing my Maxford Gee Bee , Duh!
Kermit Weeks has probably the most accurate replica of the Gee Bee Z in existence . He has flown it a couple of times , and then had it tested for aerodynamic flutter . It turns out that flutter in the wings shows up at about 320 knots IAS , so he is holding off of flying it until they can determine that it is safe to fly . The Gee Bee racers are beautifully attractive , fast and alluring , but also deadly . IMHO , they should be preserved for historical and esthetic reasons , but not flown because they are dangerous and have killed several highly skilled and experienced pilots who rolled the dice and lost . I would hate to see Kermit , who is a national treasure to aviation be lost risking flying one of these aircraft . Jimmy Doolittle risked it and won the 1932 Bendix trophy race , but right after that he said hed never fly that plane again due to it's sketchy flight characteristics. Scariest plane he ever flew .
I see many that can fly these very good but when it comes down to landing them, that seems to always be the real challenge. Sorry to see this happen. Was a beautiful plane.
Das tut mehr sehr leid. Möglicherweise kann man das tolle Modellflugzeug wieder reparieren. Alles Gute!
They can’t all be gems.
The touch down didn't look hard enough to do that much damage. Strange...
FIM TRÁGICO 😪😪😔 🇧🇷
"Missed it by that much" Agent 86.
good pilot, a misjudgement with distance perception, plus an ugly threshold on the field. Any one can and will do this.
Well landing short into a berm will do that.
R.I.P.
Gee Bee's are widow makers. They are high drag low lift racing planes that have to be flown and landed fast. Cool, but very unforgiving planes.
Like I said, very much like the F-104. But nothing wrong with them as long as they were flown properly.
Added to which there's no pilot's eye view as an RC operator --you are landing almost blind. This remote factor contributes to the incidents in the air where the op pulls excessive G but can't feel it building up because they are stood in a field holding a transmitter. Result- disintegration. I still think RC choppers and RC fixed wing shouldn't be airborne simultaneously on an event day. We've seen what happens.
It’s a model not. The real thing you can’t compare the two !
A down-burst at the final is what everybody should fear and take into account with sufficient height and lift.
Toast please mother may I have another
Carrier landing with a land based aircraft.
I keep telling myself. It's just a matter of perspective. :P
Beautiful Model -very sad to see it crash
Too low too slow such a beautiful plane and engine....rebuild it please..
Beautiful model! Takes practice with that small a wing to get the approach and flare, just like the real thing! Good luck
What is location ? Schitts Creek ??
The pilot came down hard on the right landing gear.
OWNED!
high sink rate, bery hard to judge probably, beautiful model
Depth perception is a wonderful thing.😮😢
somewhat historically accurate
Even the model has a high approach speed..I believe the full scale was 140 miles an hour
Totally heartbreaking!
volo preciosamente Lastima ...
Sink rate......sink rate......sink rate....
Amazing model. Probably not the easiest to land obviously. I wonder how the real one handled.
Those are funny looking planes.
I have lots of experience in crashing airplanes. When I was first starting I’d take a garbage sack with me to help carry all the bits home. I even crashed one with me in it. So I think he let it get too slow. Also looks like he stalled it.
What a shame, anyway you'd built a beautiful model and except for the accident it's obvious that you knew how to fly it, I could see that from some of your maneuvers. Hope you try again!
Yep he proved he knew how to fly, all the way to the crash site!!!:-)
People crash them all the time. Then just put all the stuff in another airframe.
Beegee flies badly. Just one look tells It all
TUVO SUERTE EL PILOTO,QUE ESTABA FUERA DEL AVIÓN......
5:03...you're welcome.
Beautiful flight Beautiful plane the curse lives on for the flying coffin gee bee
Estava em perda! Pena!!!
Go to 5:04 and save your time.
Transmitter antenna wasn’t nearly long enough. You need at least 14 feet of antenna for a plane like this. Shame. It was a beautiful plane.
Hi, what the ??????? " 14 ' of antenna" ????? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Feel sorrie for aircraft .Never looked like the pilot prepared for landing .No last curcuit with aircraft trimmed in landing configuration .Looks like it ran out of airspeed and list height abd instead of feeding in power more up elevator was dualked in .Aircraft stalled and hit the ground !
RIP GeeBee Z !!!